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  1. On 10/19/2022 at 10:11 AM, depressed_soul said:

    After listening to David Ike for many years, he says that we are consciousness. David Ike claims that when people die, they become Consciousness and then they are forever consciousness.


    I read the Truth Vibrations a long time ago and intend to read some more of DI's books soon, so most of my current knowledge of him comes from videos. I've heard him talk of us as something like "consciousness having a human experience" so he's in the camp of philosophical idealists. Is there a difference between 'consciousness' small c and 'Consciousness' capital C to explain what happens after we die? 


    On 10/19/2022 at 10:11 AM, depressed_soul said:

    However what about the people that are murders, psychopaths, and evil satanic worshipers that kill children? What happens to them when they die? Surely those people don't deserve anything positive in the afterlife. In the Bible in my Christian religion they go to hell. However I'm confused about David Ike's theory about people becoming Consciousness again after they pass from this human life form.


    I wonder what's the difference really between hell and a room full of evil people? Perhaps it's about power. In this world, evil people (ie selfish people) can be in a position of power over their victims and carry out these types of crimes, but hell is supposed to be full of demons and devils who are more powerful than us so the perpetrators become the victims as punishment. In eastern religions they believe in karma, where an evil person is reborn as someone less powerful and becomes a victim of evil people later on.  


    So putting these together, hell is evil operating in a power hierarchy, whether in this world or the next doesn't really matter. 

  2. 2 hours ago, legion said:

    ....but a lot of people will take notice and listen to MEPs.


    When we in the UK were in the EU, we heard nothing from our MEPs inbetween the elections, there were just a lot of anonymous diktats coming from "Brussels" with a few figureheads like the Commissioner who we never voted for. But maybe some Euro enthusiasts will listen and begin to question their world view.  

  3. On 10/19/2022 at 12:41 PM, novymir said:

    The "ego" is anti-Christ, an artificial idea of self that dominates this world, is the ruler of this world collectively. EgoMatrix--Dream of Deceit.


    All the guilt-tripping bullshit, all the traumas and deceptions are expressions of "ego", an attempt to falsify The Truth and validate the lie, and maintain and increase the disconnect from TrueBeing and Reality---The Kingdom of Heaven.


    If ego is anti-Christ, then Christ is non-ego?  Sounds like Buddhism and non-self. There is a school of thought with Jesus travelling to Kashmir and was influenced by Indian religion & philosophy, translated into Jewish language. I've started reading "A search for the historical Jesus" by Fida Hassnain which is about this.  

  4. 19 minutes ago, Human10 said:

    Catholics had bad history too... Even Christianity as a whole... They can not skip Old Testament... 


    Thinking about it, the Templars were originally part of the Catholic church, albeit with some secretive and heretical beliefs & practices. They were big builders & architects too so the link with Freemasonry makes sense.  They were a very powerful part of the Church, which I find hard to reconcile with the Pope simply closing them down rather than recycling all that wealth and skillbase into other organisations: so maybe the church's inner circle were involved all along and those Templars who were killed & tortured were simply the ones who were becoming too independent minded. In which case the 'inner circle' which is now at the esoteric core of the Freemasons is not particularly loyal to one institution, but it acts as power brokers and manipulators in a lot of hierarchies. 

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  5. 9 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    i don't know the answer to that or if there is an economy of scale aspect to it?


    i remember a bus company once charging such low rates that for a while it made no profit but it drove out the competition and was then able to raise its rates


    Could be economy of scale, but there's plenty of other big chains, including some which own both breweries and pubs so they should be able to sell their own beer cheaply. 


    Maybe it's loss-leaders too. There was a TV programme recently about weathers which showed how they aggressively upsell on their food to get you to buy extras. Eg when you order a curry they have to ask if you want the garlic naan bread instead of plain for an extra £1. 

  6. 3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    Fears over China's influence on British universities as report warns dozens of nationals are working on sensitive projects at our colleges


    It just gives fuel to theories that the apparent geo-political conflicts and superpower rivalries are what's intended for the masses, but there's unity at the top behind the scenes. 


    Either that or it's a colossal cockup and naivety. 

  7. The only 'new' information I've learned recently is how fast Freemasonry is declining, according to some reports about 100 lodges closing per year in the UK. In common with other old institutions like the mainstream churches I guess. But if the higher echelons rely on subscriptions from the rank and file, it must be creating a financial problem at least. 

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  8. 22 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

    Possible links? they have a subsect called Order of Knights Templar Commandery. History also strongly suggests that many secret societies ended up being fused together to essentially be modern masonry. Now I need to read that book! 

    Information does suggest that they were adopted in/fused with at some stage. Fall cabal series does a good job of linking where they came from, interestingly Ukraine was one of the places one of these groups landed.


    I suspect as much tho I've not read it yet so trying not to over-step myself. It was published in 1988 so not very recent, I heard about it when reading The Templar Revelation by Lynn Picknett and Clive Prince (1997) which was a real eye-opener for me. Even that book is 25 years old so I expect the research has advanced since then, eg the link with Ukraine is interesting. I can't believe the Templars just gave up after their suppression from 1307. 

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  9. 5 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:


    He did buy some books at my prompting on the links to the Knights Templar etc, and the root of Masonry going back to some bloke whose name now evades me, but those books really didn't delve into any esoteric type connections


    I have a book I've not read yet read called 'The Temple and the Lodge' by Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, on possible links with the Templars. 

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  10. 2 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

    The British monarch claims to be defender of the faith - taken to be Christianity, but so much of what is practiced in the name of Christianity is Pagan, such is the breadth & depth of deceit.


    Yeah it was originally the Roman Catholic faith, the Pope gave the title to Henry VIII ironically enough. And I agree there's a lot of Paganism in it.  Why not, all religions are developments of Paganism anyway. 


    1 hour ago, bamboozooka said:

    they will have to use rapeseed oil.

    after all they've put that nasty stuff in everything else


    At least we actually grow rapeseed in this country so imo it's better than something else like palm oil. It's all symbolic so it's all about what mythology and rituals they are enacting. 

  11. 8 hours ago, pi3141 said:

    I think they are, this belief in a 'Royal Family' a special lineage with 'Divine' links is rooted in Paganism.


    The 'Divine Seed' or special lineage and being annointed goes back to the Old Testament and the OT is rooted in Paganism.


    Although the Bible doesn't authorise Kingship it accepts it as established that there are personages designated by God as special and hence designated rulers.


    It validates Kingship.


    This is superstitous Pagan horseshit rooted in Fertility worship.


    Belief or acceptance in a 'Royal Family' is putting oneself under the pagan spell. Yet even the athiests do it willingly, as well as the Christians.


    Pi, do you know about ancient pagan religions? I'm thinking that if the King/Pharaoh/Chieftain was also the head priest of the religion, then of course they've got a conflict of interest about keeping themselves and their family in power.  It comes back to promoting one's own family ahead of others, as does the whole aristocracy. Even if the King wasn't the head priest, they would have had the priests under their thumbs.  

  12. On 10/14/2022 at 11:05 PM, bamboozooka said:

    its not about politics

    peasants will only rise once their lives get shit

    they are not rising up so they are happy with their lives


    There are lots of people worse off than us in the world who don't rise up either. Have the untouchables in India started a revolution? 


    Also I think there's a difference between happiness and pleasure. The economic and political system requires a  constant low level dissatisfaction with the here and now and restless for the next novelty, fashion or fix of stimulation and pleasure. As long as the system can continue providing shallow pleasures such as TV and fast food we are distracted from realising why we are stuck on the hamster wheel of desire, temporary gratification, then more desire. 

  13. My addition to the list: politics is marketed to the public as as a clash of personalities between this leader or that one. But the direction of travel remains the same. 


    We are trained by technology to have a short attention span, so we only notice the short term twists and u-turns, but in the long term, the direction of travel remains the same. 


    An antidote to this is to ignore the personalities and look at the policies enacted (not promised). Study history and the long-term direction of travel. 

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  14. 3 hours ago, zArk said:

    "you can choose to a. work hard and pay off your collective greed and lust for government handouts and fight for selfsufficiency  or b. become slaves on a global plantation with guaranteed scraps thrown from the table of corporate aggrandisement


    or C. say that it's the rich who got us into this mess so they can pay it back if they want to, we're not paying and default. 


    2 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

    the peasants are not  rising up so they must still be happy


    In my middle-aged life I've never heard anyone say they're happy with the politics in this country. We prefer to grumble in private and put on a brave face in public. The little hope that we've had at election time is always dashed, and over time it's created a fatalism that this is just the way things are and the ruling elites are always with us, as are the poor (to misquote the Bible).  

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  15. But he has to be anointed with the holy Chrism oil so he can become a Christ, an anointed one.  Come to think of it, those of who were confirmed in the C of E  were also anointed with the holy oil so maybe there's more "Christs" around than we think !

  16. There's apparently about 200,000 Freemasons in the UK (and 6 million worldwide if you believe the link below) so that's far too many to all belong to a secret conspiracy. As well as keeping secrets from us non-Masons, they keep secrets from each other too, that's the whole point of having different levels of initiation isn't it? The secrets of the lower levels were made public a long time ago, so if there is anything sinister about them I'm guessing it's with the top of the tree and a select few lodges. 


    Also when I used to belong to a Christian church I used to hear members saying things like they'd prefer to do business with other Christians because they thought they'd be more trustworthy; they'd also help each other out when in need.  I suppose that's the bond between members of any close community and not unique to Freemasons. 




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  17. 9 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    sometimes when you are out and about and you need somewhere for lunch....it can be just the ticket.


    We like it too but the beer is suspiciously cheap compared with other pubs so I'm a bit worried they're not paying the workers or suppliers very well, like the supermarkets don't.  Or perhaps it's all the other pubs which are overcharging? 

  18. On 10/9/2022 at 10:34 PM, Ethel said:

    Well they claimed to be but I have my doubts. CBT is definitely not useful for serious trauma.  I have recently been doing Internal Family Systems (IFS) Therapy with myself and have actually had some quite useful results.


    Glad to hear you're finding something that works, even if only partially. I guess it shows the need to try different things and get a second opinion, not just rely on the first referral your doctor comes up with.  


    On 10/9/2022 at 10:34 PM, Ethel said:

    Yes, it affects the brain. I received no help as a child. Family caused a lot of the trauma and at school most teachers were pointing the finger at my behavioural problems. And yes, I have live with the characteristics of complex trauma my whole life. I have helped myself way more than any therapist has helped me, tbh.


    On 10/9/2022 at 10:34 PM, Ethel said:

    Thanks, I have only ever been passively suicidal though. I actually have a ridiculously high survival instinct, but I am very intimate with despair. I think I can help myself. I am a very strong person, which is good. Thank you for your concern.


    I think dealing with childhood trauma is the responsibility of all of society really, not just psychologists and therapists.  Schools should have trauma awareness training and regulation techniques to get to the root of the problems rather than just use discipline to try and suppress the behaviours. Police too: some kids are so affected it's like having brain damage and punishing them just makes it worse. And yes self-help can be great; in fact a lot of it comes down to what we practice outside the therapy room, they should be teaching us techniques to use so we can become self-reliant rather than dependent on professionals all the time. I have the same approach with spirituality and religion: I don't want other people's answers all the time, I'd rather learn their techniques to help me find the truth for myself.  

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  19. 4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    its an old idea that the britons were driven into the celtic fringe but genetics is showing that actually there was no mass genocide by anglo-saxons. What's more likely is an inter-breeding. So many people who today identify as 'anglo-saxon' are likely to have genetics that go back much further

    A more recent example of this process would be the viking takeover of the northern islands of orkney and shetland where they then cosied upto gaelic women.

    Iceland was settled not just by vikings but by vikings and their gaelic wives. If any genociding went on it would have been more likely directed at menfolk, many of which would likely die trying to repel invaders


    The thing is, this feeds into the type of argument used by liberal globalists to justify mass immigration. The narrative is that we are already a mongrel multicultural race of many different groups migrating from all directions, so we should be welcoming the foreigners into our lands, businesses and homes, instead of trying to restricting immigration. 


    However just because there may not have been a mass genocide, it doesn't mean that the incomers (going back even to the stone age with groups like the Beaker people) just became friends and were welcomed in. The likelihood is that there was warfare and the previous inhabitants driven off the best land, enslaved, forced into marriage (if women). We have been replaced a number of times before now: the people who built Stonehenge genetically disappeared from the genome soon after it was completed. 

  20. On 10/10/2022 at 10:05 AM, Nuckles said:

    Thats what we are trying to decide - what to do with it for the best. Not interested in crypto as I dont pretend to understand any of it. Property doesnt seem wise at the moment and we dont want to buy gold/silver. Thats why I asked the question, to get some ideas.......................


    Hmm. Investing a lump sum is bound to be more risky than drip feeding into some market over the long term. So one factor is your emotional relationship to risk: if you'll lose sleep at night worrying when the prices drop then maybe the stock market's not for you. 
    It's a big subject but here's a few more ideas. 
    *  Keep at least 6 months' income in an easy access account for emergencies. 
    *  The older you are, and the nearer to retirement, the less time you have ahead of you to ride out downturns and wait for the next boom. So on that principle the more adventurous investments are better for younger people.  
    *  It looks like we're heading into a recession and shares and other assets like bonds and property seem on the way down so you don't need to rush into anything. You can put it in the building society and wait until things pick up again.  
    *  Make a will, or if you've already got one maybe renew it after you've received the money - there's various things they can do nowadays to legally reduce inheritance tax and limit care home expenses. 
    A financial adviser would likely give you a questionnaire to fill in with a whole bunch of questions to build up a picture. Eg how old you are, are you married, have a will, do you have children or grandchildren, own your own home, have enough saved up in your pension? Do you want to start your own business or prefer to work for someone else? What other big plans have you got?  Start with getting these type of regular bases covered before looking into sexier more adventurous investments. But if you've got an interest in something like art, fine wine, vintage cars, antiques or whatever, you can incorporate that into your portfolio too. If you want a personal investing forum, https://www.lemonfool.co.uk/ is good. 


    Edit: all those questions are just for illustration, obviously I don't expect you to answer them here. It's to show how much it depends on your circumstances, and what I would do isn't going to be very relevant for you. 

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  21. 1 hour ago, Ethel said:

    But there is a part of me which has often felt quite attracted to suicide. We have created a culture in the Western world of stoicism, suppression and denial. I can tell you all with no hesitation that mental health services in the Western world are failing and are out of their fucking depth to a degree which terrifies me. I have seen a handful of psychologists in my life and several of them more or less told me that they considered my insights better than theirs. In fact, it became pretty obvious that they had almost nothing to offer, "nice" as they were. They simply aren't equipped to deal with really severe trauma, like incest, for example. 


    So sorry to hear you've been through this, which no-one should have to suffer. Were those psychologists specialised in trauma, attachment and abuse work? There are some good ones around, but they're rare and getting funding is difficult. 


    Another thing I've learned is that there's no quick fixes. Trauma, especially with children, affects brain development and treatment needs to literally rewire the neural pathways into a more healthy pattern, otherwise you're left with chronic PTSD type symptoms. 


    So my message would be, don't give up, keep pestering your medical services for more help. Because at the end of the day, people just want the suffering to end, not their lives. It's when they lose hope of finding any other way out of the suffering that they think of suicide. I would like to rekindle some hope that life can get better. 

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