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  1. 49 minutes ago, Mr H said:

    Well check it out.

     

    Thoughts come and go. You remain

    Perceptions come and go, you remain

    Sensations and feelings come and go, you remain

     

    So even in 1 minute it is quite clear what you essentially are, i.e. That what is necessary for your existence is nothing human....

     

    It's very simple, obvious and real.. involves no theory or woo woo...

      

    Some feedback from my checking it out. 

     

    When thought goes and there's just perception and sensation, then the self-reference "I" isn't present (in my experience). Conclusion: I am the self-referential thought. 

     

    My thoughts, my perceptions, my sensations, my emotions, my mind, my soul, my self, it's all "mine" however deep I go. How can a word like "myself" make sense? It's self-referential, a paradox. 

     

    Awareness can be formed into a dual structure with directions: outwards and inwards. "Self" is when awareness is pointing inwards. "Other" is when it's pointing outwards. Like when I focus attention on an object (a part of the whole)  and everything else becomes the periphery (like the foreground and background of a painting). That distinction is of course made up by me. What happens when I don't make a distinction between inside and outside, foreground and background; with the collapse of the duality the self is nothing/everything. 

     

    Can awareness point  to itself? Awareness of awareness, is what I understand by self-inquiry. 

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  2. 1 hour ago, Captainlove said:

    I see things havent improved on this thread. All that seems to happen is people sharing info which is fine. But in the world nothing has changed or improved yet. The OP said 'That we have talked enough' yet thats all that happens here. What are people waiting for? A saviour.

     

    Ok but this is a forum, it's where people come to talk. People are doing some things, and not doing other things to disengage from the agenda. Most of us are doing something as isolated individuals though so it doesn't seem to add up to much in aggregate. When people do get organised, is when there's a backlash because that's seen as more of a threat. When you say saviour do you mean a leader? Yes I recognise there's risks to that too. It's a big dilemma, to get behind leaders and organise ourselves or to stay as we are, atomised. 

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  3. 1 hour ago, Mr H said:

    Well you have to start somewhere. Be the change that you seek.

     

    It's also not a case of them and us. Judging by my conversations here, even folks here are not prepared to self actualize and wish to continue experiencing as a limited human and all the stories that involves.....

     

    A long way to go yet....

     

    Self enquiry needs to be taught in schools and be part of everyday life

     One can hope....

     

    I get what you're saying yet I don't see a correlation between the kind of self-actualisation you're talking about and the types of conspiracy theory we get here. Maybe it's a case of birds of a feather flocking together, the other spiritual forums I belong to which promote things like self inquiry are mostly populated with much more left wing and globalist minded. Being spiritual doesn't lead most people in the direction where they would consider reading up on David Icke. 

     

    What 'stories' are you referring to? For me, the things which motivate me to come here, the attacks on our freedoms and communities by powerful interests won't go away by doing self-inquiry and calling them stories.  Not that we shouldn't self-inquire, meditate do yoga or whatever practice we want, but those things won't save us from the attacks. 

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  4. The ban on petrol and diesel seems so ludicrous to me that I can't imagine the politicians actually believe it's possible. Maybe it's my age and I can be dismissed as a crusty old boomer, but I just can't see it working. It looks more like a planned failure that feeds into a scenario of energy scarcity and maybe the great reset will feature a global energy war between the west, the middle east and Russia (users and producers). China is on target to reach energy self-sufficiency by the end of this century so they can afford to sit on the sidelines while the rest of us destroy our economies and then become the dominant power to roll out their technological gulag to the rest of us. 

  5. 1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

    oh i'm sure the state could have rustled up enough heavies if the rioters had been white

     

    they're being lenient: black privilege

     

    Agreed. Though what's significant is that those two possibiities can now be clearly seen in the MSM, you no longer need to be reading the dissident media to know that something is terribly wrong in Western Europe. 

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  6. 1 hour ago, novymir said:

    Then the only thing that matters is do the words express and support Truth, or are they of an anti-Truth kind? 

     

    Yes for sure, if we passively believe what we're told or read then we're under a spell. Easily done though because it takes work to investigate and find out what's true. 

  7. It doesn't only come from David Icke. There's a couple of episodes of Ancient Aliens which goes into some evidence going back to old civilisations about contact between reptilian looking aliens and humans, including cross breeding. 

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcKjzRKMBM  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q30UFr_5ltA 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Aliens 

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  8. 6 hours ago, novymir said:

    Deuteronomy 7:16

    "And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them: neither shalt thou serve their gods; for that will be a snare unto thee." 

     

    That means uninhibited positions of power and control over others. 

     

    It says to show others no pity, but I'm left wondering who "thou" is. Christians and Muslims also Accept the Old Testament / Torah as holy scripture so can they consider themselves as included? So how are we to see this verse in the context of all the conflicts between the "people of the book"?  

    And then if we accept the Torah originated from Babylon, a Pagan empire, that puts another spin on it. 

  9. 11 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    I understand where you are coming from. It's the 'real world' vs the deeper levels.

     

    Icke writes about that in depth in The Dream. That the system keeps people struggling around everyday life so they don't have the energy or focus on the bigger picture.

     

    Your homeland is part of this. The simulation keeps trying to get our focus on anything but the truth.

     

    The news constantly repeats, even the small stories, the generate what they want you to see. Basically it's all fake. The only real 'news' happens in your own experience in your own life. I'm not saying you shouldn't see what is going on, watching 'the show' can tell you what they are up to. But...

     

    It is dangerous to take in the news and believe it is real. When you do that you make it real. Elections aren't won by votes, they are won by agreement. Unless you understand the astral and thought forms that might not make much sense. Trust me they know how to use your imagination to create the world they want.

     

    At the moment you're trapped playing a role in a game, until you rise above that game you will be part of their creative energy. They need your thoughts. They get what you focus on!

     

    So they show you loads of news stories about a particular thing, you REACT to it as IF IT IS REAL, you then create the necessary energy to make it real, then more reinforcement of similar news stories follow.

     

    They used to put news on late at night before people went to bed, and of course people watch or read the news with their breakfast, ideal times to optimise use of certain brain cycles. Now with 24 hour rolling news people are being used more efficiently by the system.

     

    Indeed, the mainstream news is a circus, sure it isn't reality, its part of the agenda itself to control our perception. Noticing a disconnect between what we can see and what we're told to believe is part of the awakening process. 

     

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  10. 1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

    all this stuff is just the pre-tremors....the real earthquake hasn't hit yet

    At least four police hurt in Hague riots after rival Eritrean mobs torched cars, trashed buildings and hurled bricks at cops - turning Dutch city into a war zone 

     

    And despite all that rioting it says they only made "several arrests". Why so few arrested to face justice? Either the police are treating foreign criminals very leniently or it's an admission that the police were outnumbered and unable to control the riot. Not a good sign either way. 

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  11. 18 hours ago, novymir said:

    And what would one want to change about The Infinite Everything? Where can we find something "else" to "change" into? Only a little innocent fantasy. What is in fantasy? Deceit and distortion, and limits and "everything" else that is not real or true about WHAT-IS-REALITY. The Real cannot be completely suppressed or detached from, so there are aspects and qualities of IT in this thing, but they're not of this thing.

    . . . . . . . . 

     

    "The Son" just means The Totality of Creation=The Kingdom of Heaven= Reality.

    We are a part of That.

    Detached "members of the body of Christ(consciousness/Spirit) of The Whole. Re-member. Rejoin. Wake up. To where and what we really are. 

     

    I might be generalising but you look like a Christian mystic, pantheist, or nondualist. Seeing everything as a whole, a totality, oneness as the awakening, the spiritual goal. 

     

    I'm not saying there's anything wrong in that, but I don't think it implies the regular world is a fantasy which we shouldn't strive to change for the better. I think there is a healthier, more authentic and wholesome way of life in accord with natural law that we can work towards, and which the 'illuminati' is taking us away from. We can make our society better and more beautiful than it is. Not perfect, not permanent but something to enjoy and pour our love into while we're here. 

  12. 16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    ! And there you have it!!!! - quote "we are still going downhill as we can see every day in the news". BUT ARE WE REALLY?

     

    Who is SEEING and WHAT are you actually seeing?

     

    Well here we are in the David Icke forum which brings together much evidence of the illuminati agenda unfolding all round the world, where do you want to start? What brought me into this area many years ago was the demographic decline of my people with the colonisation of my homeland and its transformation into a multicultural melting pot. That much is factually happening and it led me to question why and who might be behind it. That first enquiry then led onto multiple other conspiracies in other countries which some of us have concluded are connected. 

     

    16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    You say in one breath that people need to push back against the elite but then you fall for their world view, which is created by fake news. Not only do they create a false world view with the news, you feed back into creating it by BELIEVING in their illusion.

     

    What in your view is the fake news and illusion, don't you think there is a big problem we need to address? 

     

    16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    What practical ways are you thinking of? I presume things like not having the jab, but beyond that?

     

    "Oh no look everyone, the world is going downhill, little me can't do anything about it" aka learned helplessness. Isn't that creating the illusion?

     

    I never suggested I can't do anything about it, but you are on the right lines that I can't do much by myself as an isolated atomised individual reliant on the central state for my survival needs. The way back to empowerment is by recreating the kind of real folk community which the cabal has been intent on destroying and preventing us from recreating. 

    "The strength of the wolf is in the pack and the strength of the pack is in the wolf."  Rudyard Kipling. 

     

    16 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    What's your knowledge of thought forms?

     

    It's all an illusion. You think you have to fight it, but you're helping to create it by giving their illusion validation.

     

    I only have a passing knowledge of thought forms, would you explain what you mean? 

     

    My main interest is not so much fighting illusions and shadows but exposing them and replacing a degenerate way of life with something else that's more natural and life-affirming for my people. 

  13. 1 hour ago, Phil26 said:

    So you're saying it's everyone (or how many) or everyone stays trapped in  some insane reincarnation cycle?

     

    You don't believe the individual can free themselves then?

     

    Yes, individuals can and do free themselves, but for our whole society to push back against the illuminati agenda needs a lot more to wake up in a practical way and do something about it. At the moment we are still going downhill as we can see every day in the news. 

  14. 2 hours ago, novymir said:

    They're not real....it's still a fantasy in your mind. 

    Truth Rules Reality.

     

    Deceit rules insanity.

    Because they both are not true, they cancel each other out in Truth/Reality(there is no deceit or insanity in Reality/Truth). So, let go of deceit and sanity returns, and the fantasy world is gone.

    There is no insanity without deceit and vice-versa, the same goes with "evil". None are reflective of Reality.

    ....

     

    That's not GOD, it's a part of the consciousness of The Son(GOD'S CREATION) that decided to take a trip into Never Never Land, and the ego is trying to keep it there.

     

    I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life, no one returns to Reality except by/with and through Me. I Am The Truth, and My name is Love.

     

    Ok, but how do you know all this is real (ie objective) and not just a collection of ideas, however sane and intelligent they may be. 

     

    For example, 'sanity' and 'insanity' aren't medical terms which doctors use to diagnose a real illness, they're opinions we may have. 

     

    2 hours ago, novymir said:

    I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life, no one returns to Reality except by/with and through Me. I Am The Truth, and My name is Love.

     

    Interesting ... looks like you're a Christian who thinks for yourself and re-writes the scriptures with your own understanding. A heretic? 

  15. 8 minutes ago, novymir said:

    Hehe....where does "evil" exist? And what is "it" doing? All it is is an idea, an idea contrary to Truth, therefore a fantastical idea....that goes nowhere.

     

    It doesn't have separate existence but exists as a quality of actions done by people with free will. A bit like heat and cold don't exist without matter to be hot or cold. 

  16. 1 hour ago, novymir said:

    To believe that GOD Created something "evil" or what GOD Created is capable of "evil" is an erroneous idea, a delusional idea.

     

    In effect, an "evil" idea.

     

    Hehehe...

     

    So there's more than one creator, since evil does exist 😉 

     

    It could be that's what we mean by free will. 

  17. 5 hours ago, Mr H said:

    If everybody did this and ...

     

    Ah yes, if only enough other people were with us we could change the world. I see this so much yet we are still too few. The forces of darkness and degeneracy have most of the people under their spell and for the foreseeable future we need to organise and prepare as a hated minority. 

  18. 1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

    Diamonds are found in huge numbers in some meteorites. Now American astronomers have solved the mystery of where they come from: they are made in supernova explosions.

     

    And if I remember my Physics correctly, all the elements heavier than iron are also created in supernovas, the ordinary nuclear fusion inside stars only produces up as far as iron. 

  19. 2 minutes ago, Mr H said:

    Family aside.

     

    Are the other forms of love conditional? Do you love your home if it collapsed? Do you love your tribe if they turn on you and want to kill you?

     

    This is where born free and I left it last time. It's more selfish preferences, based upon certain conditions, rather than what I would call love, but we probably all define it differently....

     

    I guess for me these are conditional. I'm not some enlightened sage so like anyone else, if my tribe rejects me, my wife is unfaithful etc the love could turn to hate. I've had girlfriends who I thought I loved but it turned sour.  I've fallen out with family members in the past too, so it hasn't felt like love. Or maybe the unconditional love is still there but gets obscured by hate layered on top.

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  20. 2 hours ago, Mr H said:

    Find it curious that a lot of folks get worked up about the future. Maybe humanity is controlled by aliens whatever. A control grid whatever.

     

    Why?

     

    The original discussion here, leads to conclusion that you cannot really love or care for another, it's all negotiation really. Except maybe where child is involved..

     

    So why do you really give a fk what happens to "humanity".

     

    If I had to make a guess I would say most don't ( but will claim too) and enjoy conspiracy theory for selfish reasons, e.g distraction, entertainment, not wanting to take responsibility of your life etc.....

     

    To nondualists there are no others in the absolute sense, only when seen from within the illusion of duality. So no, I guess there isn't me loving another, it's all the same love. 

     

    But in a more conventional sense, of course there's love: I love my family, my home, my friends, my tribe, my nation, anything where's there's a good relationship with "me". 

     

  21. 14 hours ago, Macnamara said:

    no magna carta is still in effect. magna carta is the constitution because it PREDATES legislation and therefore isn't legislation. It is a promise or as some might describe it a 'treaty'. Magna carta raises the people above government through jury nullification. This power of the people over the law is the true meaning of democracy not voting for political parties.

     

    Magna Carta was signed well before the UK union so does it only apply in England? Or perhaps Wales too, if memory serves Wales was occupied by the Norman cabal bloodlines by then as well. 

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  22. 13 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    Actually I think you didn't follow what I wrote as I didn't say that about ego. The is no ego, it's just a theory with no evidence for it.

     

    Name any evidence for an ego?

     

    Come to think of it, what evidence is there for consciousness, for mind? They're only subjective sensations not scientific evidence. That leads to things like materialism and behaviourism. 

     

    Then again, the idealists argue there's no evidence for the objective material world, that subjectivity is the only truth we know. 

     

  23. 7 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    It's weird how few forum members have read Icke's books, especially his latest after the pandemic. Why is that?

     

    I've got a few to catch up on (currently reading The Biggest Secret), but these days with all the forum posts to keep up with I don't have so much time for reading traditional books.  😀 

  24. 11 hours ago, Phil26 said:

    You're talking about that guy, Andy Puddicombe from a comprehensive school in Bristol, who dropped.put of a sports science course at a poly then went on to circus school. 🙄 He went backpacking to various countries and a retreat in Scotland. He says he was a  'buddhist monk', but anyone can do that. You just have to say you're a Buddhist, pay a donation and stay at some retreats. Also there's no way to verify it. A lot of people have questioned his 'credentials' as he has no proof and his backstory really is there just to sell the app. He signed a book deal for three books with Hodder and Stouton and a TV series with Netflix. He is a business man not a spiritual guru or monk. He does not name where he was supposedly ordained, he only meditates himself "occasionally" and he has been seen eating meat, which he says he does sometimes. The guy is bs.

     

    Andy Puddicombe has a personal net worth of nearly a quarter of a billion pounds and Headspace has merged with another corporation to the value of $3 BILLION. He is in favour of BRAIN CHIPS. When are people going to realise they are being scammed by those apps? 🙄

     

    And Buddhist monks are not supposed to have personal wealth! 

     

    None of this bothers me at all. People can ordain as a monk for only a short time, it's quite common for young men in the far east to spend a year in a monastery before starting a career or getting married. They also don't have to be vegetarian, Theravada monks for example beg food off the laity and have to eat what they're given. If he's made a lot of money it's probably because he saw an opportunity in the corporate wellbeing industry so imo they deserve each other! 

     

    He's not some guru, just someone who I saw a few of his mediation talks (which I didn't pay for), I also have some books on meditation by other people, who make money out of it. I prefer to own a book outright or watch free videos rather than sign up to a regular subscription. Having learned about meditation from various places I now just do my own thing and don't follow anyone else. 

     

    Anyway, one claim I've seen for meditation is that it allows you to see reality 'as it is', before the mind layers over it with abstract thoughts and beliefs. Pure being or essence. Seeing as we spend most of our waking hours in thinking mode, what's wrong with taking a break for a short time, 30 minutes or so. 

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