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@marczapi I've downloaded it, not had time to start reading yet though. Of course there's many disasters predicted which I lack the ability to evaluate, but at least you've given us the opening timeframe. Any thoughts as to the latest year when it will occur?
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@Velma and if the virus is still so prevalent and not held back by jabs or natural immunity, why did they stop the face masks and social distancing? It seems all of these methods are ineffective but the one they're still pushing is the one to inject us with something.
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12 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
How is that not hate speech resulting in a prosecution? Seems like some beliefs are more equal than others.
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So, the liberal Guardian/Observer is now a hawkish warmonger. It just shows that there's no mainstream political debate now. "Left" and "Right" are both following the same script.
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8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
@Campion I replied to you in the wrong thread. Too many tabs open and I wasn't paying attention. My bad.
No worries, it's true enough for both threads anyway. Brits think that fair play and being the good samaritan will gain respect from the rest of the world, but it's taken as a weakness to be milked for as long as we're willing to play the repentant sinner.
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3 hours ago, alexa said:
Typical self-flagellating liberals. We didn't create the name 'mummy', it was Arabic, but do Arabs get blamed? And how is 'mummified person' any more respectful anyway?
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44 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
It's hilarious that the paper thinks it's exposing something, when PA are actually holding a public protest to tell the public about the issue! And the paper's main argument is about what clothes Alex Yerbury is wearing, instead of trying to dispute the facts of demographic change and mass immigration. Must have a low opinion of their readers' intelligence.
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@sickofallthebollocks I wonder what does a debt ceiling mean, have they reached a limit and can't borrow any more? I guess we're not far behind in England. Thank goodness that reality is beginning to dawn on us. I know, why don't we have a sovereign wealth fund and gold reserves like sensible countries do, instead of maxing out on debt?
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2 hours ago, Macnamara said:
The 'illuminati' is imo really just a name for the cult that controls freemasonry made up of people like the rothschilds and rockefellers who i believe to be sabbateans.
Super detailed reply as ever, thanks Mac! Much to digest. I agree that 'Illuminati' is probably a pen name for a loose-knit network of elites rather than a specific organisation.
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@Diesel Thanks
there's a lot to discover in the history of religions. I am fascinated by the relationship between oneness and mulitplicity, and when I looked up 'I and I' from Rasta, liked what I saw - this is from wiki:
I and I is a complex term, referring to the oneness of Jah (God) and every human. In the words of Rastafari scholar E. E. Cashmore: "I and I is an expression to totalize the concept of oneness. 'I and I' as being the oneness of two persons. So God is within all of us and we're one people in fact. I and I means that God is within all men. The bond of Ras Tafari is the bond of God, of man." The term is often used in place of "you and I" or "we" among Rastafari, implying that both persons are united under the love of Jah.
I'd take it a bit further myself into full pantheism, which is a type of Christianity which might work for me.
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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:
Myself i see the conspiracy as an OCCULT conspiracy at its heart. I believe that there is embedded (hiding within) within judaism a heretical sabbatean cult. That cult has also embedded itself within other religions though for example its leader sabbatai zevi openly converted to islam and many of his followers in turkey followed suit and became the 'donmeh' who were crypto-sabbateans who practiced their own dark religion behind closed doors whilst outwardly professing to be muslims. Its possible that the young turks were tied to this cult and that the cult seized control of the country. I think sabbateans are also embedded within the christian church and many catholics attest to a takeover of the vatican (see for example sedevacantalism)
Hi Mac, I've done a little bit of reading into the sabbateans trying to find out how they came about, because it seems plausible to me that a leader like Zevi wouldn't just appear out of nowhere without any outside influences. Although he had a motive of being seen as the messiah, I wonder if he was just a front man and someone else, or perhaps an already existing hidden sect was putting him forward as a public front.
Zevi became interested in mysticism and Kabbalah as a young man, and during his colourful life Kabbalah appears as a common thread among his influencers, followers and promoters such as Isaac Luria, Nathan of Gaza and Abraham Yachini. Kabbalah is of course a well known subset of Judaism with published literature, which is variously described as mysticism and occultism. It's not a secret society in itself, but do you think there might have been underground orders hiding within Kabbalah which could have surfaced as things like Sabbateanism, only to disappear back into the shadows at a later date? Or is the Kabbalah connection simply a coincidence?-
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@Diesel Thanks for sharing :) I didn't know that Rastafarianism was a type of Christianity it's good to learn about things. So does Jah refer to Jesus, in your understanding?
Edit - also where does the name Jah come from?
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35 minutes ago, RobinJ said:
Personally I agree with Dale. 'Fighting' is the key word here. Changing the terminology makes a difference to how we approach something. Fighting for anything assumes some form of anger is involved= dark side. Its the way we have been programmed to think.
Maybe it depends on why the individual is fighting? Fighting in self-defence can be due to fear rather than anger, but perhaps you include anger and fear in the same ball-park. In any case, these reactions can be brought on by the automatic fight & flight response, which is part of the survival instinct of most animals, in which case it's not necessarily "dark" in a moral or spiritual sense. Fighting and flighting is part of the normal balance of nature with predators and prey animals.
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@pi3141 Thanks, its interesting to read your views. I'll underline the point that "Jesus Christ" is the Greek version, and of course our surviving Gospel manuscripts are written in Greek aren't they. So already we have a mixture of Judaic and Greek influences, which is rather neglected by the Christian churches nowadays. But where does the name Jesus originate in his own language, isn't is from Yeshua or Joshua? Is that what people called him in his own native Aramaic?
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@Stuart dorrans There's something about this whole subject which brings out a negative mood for me, not surprising I suppose seeing as we're so far down this slippery slope by now that a recovery seems like mountain climbing. We have a lot of talk here about big threats which need to be confronted, like the digital prison you mention, but imo there's a lot to be gained by small steps too. Such as local community building and gradual steps towards self-reliance. I'm watching some videos by Patriotic Alternative and Mark Collett who are doing some good work in that regard, and seem realistic about what can be achieved in our current state.
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4 hours ago, Stuart dorrans said:
I think the white population is afraid to speak out incase we land ourselves in jail. Many of us feel alone in this situation but thousands of us can see where all this is heading. I'm not religious but I think to survive this whites have to put aside our differences and go back to our Christian roots. Forget the churches. They have turned against us. We need to start bonding together because there is a war being waged against us. We are the many, for now. Forget class, the middle class is struggling the same as the working class and we are both being targeted for extinction. We have more in common with our brothers and sisters than we think. We are an endangered species who have brought many wonderful things to the world. We are still powerful, I won't be beaten down by a small bunch of tribal degenerate cowards who have to use other races to do their own dirty work.
Absolutely. But we aren't all bonded together at the moment, many of us either aren't Christian any more or only in a token way. In any case, there's lots of other races who are Christians here too, so Christian nationalism would be a complicated way to approach it, we might end up in a similar mess to the US. And I don't think that 'whiteness' is much of an identity anyway, white & black don't really exist they're only a figment of people's imagination it would be better to have something more cultural and ethnic around which we can re-member ourselves.
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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
It doesn't reference Jewish people or Israel, but that's where that kind of sentiment often comes from in the American Christian demographic. Traditionalist Catholics reject what is coming out of the Vatican today as they believe it's infiltrated, and obviously the Christan Nationalists that follow Fuentes don't like Israel. Nick started the America First movement to put pressure on MAGA because they feel like it's too pro-Israel.
Cheers, I'm not American myself and it's a big country with a lot of religious varieties I don't always keep up with. If there's pro & anti Israel and Islam factions, perhaps that's just an outcome of their diversity over there, or I could even believe there's people setting out to splinter the US churches along these fault lines to weaken them.
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42 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
More people in America still identify as Christian. There's quite a lot of TradCaths too. Also the new generation of America First types that follow Nick Fuentes, they identify as Christian Nationalists.
A bit of a silly article that blows edgy internet culture out of proportion, but it's not entirely wrong regardless of Vice's progressive spin:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmxwz/tik-tok-chrsitian-nationalism
Thanks for the article EW, I'm trying to learn about the different types of nationalism, and Christian nats look to me like a contemporary version of the type of Christendom we used to have in previous eras, and the clash of cultures with Islam is only new to those who don't know their history. It's the other side of the coin to Islamic conservatism. Yeah, the article is a bit silly and overblown about how aggressive they are - relying on coded allusions - but I doubt someone like me is the intended audience for it anyway. I didn't see any reference to Jews or Israel though.
Another thing on the ADL graphs. They're obviously trying to play a trick on us, just have a look at the horizontal time axis. It isn't linear at all, the 4 time periods presented as equal to the eye are in fact all different lengths of time: 17, 11, 27 and 3 years for the data points. It would look very different if it was drawn out properly.
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I have an inner voice which only differs from speaking by being silent. However I do have short periods when the thoughts slow down and stop, for example during meditation and on solo walks in the countryside. It was a bit unnerving at first to be able to function perfectly well without a monologue apparently telling me what to do, as if the thinker of the thoughts is the self in control of this person. But I got used to it and now it feels quite natural to live with the sense of thinker-self coming and going.
But to have no inner thoughts altogether, if that's what is suggested here, is on a whole other level. If they can speak out loud, then I find it hard to understand how there would be no internal thoughts.
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4 hours ago, Stuart dorrans said:
We have nothing to feel guilty about. Non-whites love to look at their history through rose tinted glasses.
You sum it up very succinctly. Other nationalities, religions and ethnic groups have a practice of not losing face and don't allow themselves to be humiliated like we do. Including other countries which had large empires, slavery, exploitation, conquest and much of the same tar we're brushed with. I wonder why we have such a different attitude, as if our very survival instinct has become sick and atrophied from the poison we've been taking for so long. There's multiple causes, and guilt isn't the only one imo, but an important one nevertheless. And our Christian churches haven't emphasised the aspects necessary to boost our ethnic confidence and will to succeed. It's particularly galling that our own side is preventing us from trying to turn ourselves round.
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17 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
Over 85% of Americans believe in antisemitic tropes, conspiracies - survey
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/1673590010-over-85-of-americans-believe-in-antisemitic-tropes-conspiracies-surveyIt ain't just Kanye. Anti-Jewish sentiment has DOUBLED since 2019, as hate crimes rise and ever more politicos, celebs and athletes under fire for anti-Semitism
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11632463/Anti-Jewish-sentiment-DOUBLED-2019-politicos-celebs-athletes-fire.htmlThis looks clickbaity to me because many of the graphs aren't higher now than 1964 and some even have gone down. So there's ups and downs but no clear long-term trend (except you could argue that it went down overall during Trump's presidency). Also why blame it on the Christian fundies when there's nothing to support that allegation?
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16 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
I had to look up the G20 but it turns out that China is a member too, so I reckon this image is revealing a bit more than intended. The hidden puppet master has many tentacles each wearing a mask which is presented to the plebs as separate nation states. The mistake is that the Chinese flag is actually one of the puppets on the monster too.
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"People of color" refers to literally everyone except whites
"Minorities" refers to literally everyone except whites
"Diversity" refers to literally everyone except whites
"Racial pride" is socially acceptable for literally everyone except whites"The agenda is obvious when you get this point. We can add "LGBTQI+" is really a dog-whistle term for non-straight. Certain people have been singled out as a target to be downtrodden. The same people who are needed to keep the European ethnic natives surviving in the future.
"Illuminati is an okay term too, but the problem I see with terms like illuminati and freemasons is that certain people that don't like to be criticized talk about them just being useful idiots for another group. "
Fair point, I'm probably being a bit cowardly even if using that word leads to friends thinking I've joined the crazy tinfoil hat brigade rather than the far-right. The thing is, I don't have enough hard evidence at my fingertips yet to name real groups of people and hold up in a debate, so while I'm still at this stage in the journey it's a safer term to use.
"I know its hard to see this sort destruction of occur, but I 100% know that Biblical scripture has to play out, and we are going to be facing all sorts of deception, divide and conquer like never seen before."
Isn't that part of the Abrahamic spell, that their scriptures have to play out in real life and so we should be either helping towards that, or at least not obstructing them?
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On 1/12/2023 at 8:28 PM, EnigmaticWorld said:
The rootless internationalists entire program relies on getting the sheep to make bad decisions.
I generally have to speed read through my forums but for some reason this sentence stuck in my mind today. The internationalists, I call them Illuminati for convenience, want us to become rootless and detached from our history. But are they really rootless themselves? They have no loyalty to nations and ethnic cultures, but there must be some other identities they are rooted in like family bloodlines, or enduring networks which keep the very long-term plans in progress.
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General Political Thoughts Thread
in Politics & Social Engineering
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In my own experience this hasn't been true since the 1970s with comedies like Dad's Army, Spike Milligan, Fawlty Towers and perhaps into the 80s with Allo Allo. My generation exorcised its WW2 demons with our brilliant British sense of humour. But some unmentionable groups want to keep the guilt alive amongst younger generations whose parents weren't born during the Fascist era. Who could that be, who benefits from, and believes in, accusing our future generations of the ills of other countries which our ancestors bravely fought against?