BornFreeNowAgain

Sadly I doubt anything would happen. I used to work for the Australia equivalent of Samaritans and I can tell you a lot of the staff are quite judgmental and biased. Some are truly lovely souls but honestly there are a lot of people who work those lines that do not have the skills, patience or empathy. Some of the stuff you hear is shocking to be honest, of course always AFTER they have checked for suicide ideation. Many times if the caller had been drinking or was being quite passionate (angry) the call would be ended as soon as they feel they are not intending to take their life. The Australian one is funded by the Government mostly and once they are involved it never improves things. The amount of people I used to speak to who were 'truth seekers' or who had been through some form of 'systemic abuse' who would be almost 'hung up on' because the telephone counsellor did not believe them or did not want to hear it. It was a tough gig but I loved speaking to those type of callers because I believed them and they could tell I believed them. Sadly I would bet the Samaritans is no different to the Australian version and I can say with certainty that it is not some ideal utopia.

It is quite astounding how much air-play he gets now and the reverence that Sky and the media provide him. No doubt he is being used by them politically and for ratings. Gary Neville is a master at self promotion and playing to the crowd. He appears to 'talk sense' but only in areas his theories cannot be tested and yet he is the voice of football in the UK. He failed badly at his one gig in management and his football club Salford are hardly the bastion of success either. He is a fake and a fraud as shown by his bias towards his mate Ole.

I swear we are seeing karma play out faster than ever right now. Maybe not for the cabal maybe just yet (they possibly have ways of working around it to an extent) but how many of these stories have we heard lately? I am seeing it my own reality too, maybe it is part of the quickening timelines.

Hopefully it wakes a few people up. What it does show though is that you can be extremely intelligent and well read, but if you don't mix that with some good old intuition then you have nothing.

Yes, I remember the story on here about one of the members refusing the jab. So we know that there was pressure for the others to get jabbed.

Yes, 'interesting' timing these needle stories. Maybe they are a 'nod' to those in the know that these are controlled stories. It does seem weird that this is coming out during this time. It could be that these stories are to hide the sudden deaths/heart attacks of otherwise healthy and mostly young people. You would think any recreational drugs may put even more stress on the cardiovascular system in those compromised with the jab.

Sadly I think they can. I swear some folk are playing out a Jungian archetype of the the primordial hero right now. People actually believe they are acting heroically.

Very sad, she was a lovely old girl.

Very interesting will get the popcorn in to see how that develops. Did Jeepster pass on?

This is EXACTLY what I thought when Jeff only offered for Max to stay until Friday. I can see a bit of a falling out on the horizon for those two. Unless Max is not so different to Jeff after all but I don't think that is the case.

Although I only joined recently ( I was a member of the old forum but not very active) I have been mostly reading the Icke forum for many years. They come across as a 'journo' to me. I can just see it now "i spent 18 looking into the 'other side' of things and found nothing but crazy people who call the vaccines satan juice. I decided looking at all the evidence to take the jabs as I could clearly see the science was right'. Certainly they do not appear to be a free thinker.

Of course there is truth to this. However, you would imagine Max has survived off his work for the last number of years and I cannot see his influence being the same. But you raise a good point in that all of need to take responsibility for ourselves and that is all we can do.

I certainly can see where he is coming from. However, I do think it is a bit rich to constantly encourage others to stand their ground and not give in to bullies, but then run when the going gets tough. I also wonder where he goes from here, a big part of his videos are warning people about what is happening/coming, but also to stand firm, I wonder how he will be taken seriously with this part of his message now some think he has run.

I have to say I feel pretty much the same about Max Igan. Watching his latest video from Mexico it seems he has let fear dictate. All his 'explanations' just sounded like a guy who knows he has given into fear trying to justify it cognitively. Yes, we all have to act on our instincts and do what is right for us, but it does seem like he got the wobblies.