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Sheepy
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You seem to be at standstill ween, maybe they are out in the local town centres handing out DD leaflets.
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5 hours ago, Saved said:
I wonder what Ally makes of this.
I dunno maybe they will be along and tell you, revolution can be quiet and steady and it doesn't have to be a bloodletting, which in the end doesn't cure anything and just ends up with yet another tyrant taking over.
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5 minutes ago, Diesel said:
Popularity does not equate to wisdom, some of the great thinkers of history were not popular in their time. I would hate to see a society created out of popularity it would be that be like that Black Mirror episode Nosedive and that's a real danger with DD. Perhaps it is a case of equal access, not sure of the answer but its a excellent point you make.
Beware of those who see DD as threat Diesel, the only people it threatens are the very people and the system that has put you in the position you are in.
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12 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
big pharma industry
Mmmm well they have been told thousands of times where lobbying was leading and so they really don't have any excuses. Because I couldn't hazard a guess why.
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Anyway, I will take your leave for a while, I have been at this a longtime I would rather I didn't take over the thread and you go through it for yourselves. The ins and outs of DD are always fluent. Or it couldn't be DD.
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1 minute ago, Diesel said:
As I said in my first post that you called off topic. A Benevolent Leader.
"I like the system of a benevolent leader voted in to ensure the welfare of the people, held accountable to the people who using a digital system of voting policies and represents and implements policies that are a benefit society."
Mmm well good luck with that, Diesel I will take my chances with DD.
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Just now, ink said:
You envision no problems with that?
I didn't say that, but also I wouldn't keep the same one for different votes. So it would figure being impartial would be advantageous even. I don't think you would need it at local level but you would at a higher level which would have a far-reaching effect.
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Just now, Diesel said:
And how will you ensure the explanation is impartial, who would you choose to explain it?
I would choose an impartial body to oversee each vote, not that most people wouldn't know for themselves anyway. Just like we spent years explaining before the EU referendum it wouldn't be easy and the outcome would mean the EU and the Westminster party would come after you at every opportunity. So, all those who after the vote said you didn't know what you were doing actually did. The toughest part about direct democracy is accepting you don't always win on a personal level. Like you asked about the monetary system if you want to change it you have to get a consensus and then you need to explain the fors and against.
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1 minute ago, Ween Dwijler said:
Yes mob rule is a danger in DD. Thats why I think it might be better to work towards a model based on near consensus. Especially if the decision about someones life needs to be made.
It isn't even a problem because as I have taken the time to explain, nobody would be expected to vote on a policy unless they were given a clear choice and what either way the vote went the outcomes would be explained beforehand so your vote wasn't wasted. A bit of a false historical narrative.
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Just now, Diesel said:
Jesus was condemned to death by the crowds who did not want him pardoned. Direct Democracy
Socrates was voted to death by his peers often quoted as an example of mob rule. Direct Democracy
And who explained the outcomes of either choice? nah not us guv, it was the crowd honest.
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1 minute ago, Diesel said:
Without tackling the fundamental problems in society and learning from history DD would be a disaster, the Wisdom in the Crowds idea has historically proven to be wrong :
It was Direct Democracy that condemned Socrates,
It was Direct Democracy that condemned Jesus
Yet when anyone brings up these arguments not limited to but for example money and psychopaths/sociopaths you refuse to discuss them
Neither being true by the way, they were condemned by a hierarchy who were frightened by their stand and minds.
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2 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said:
Well, that is not up to me to decide. I guess that at some point the framework for the direct democracy system has to be put up for voting by the people. After all, it's going to be their system, not mine
Exactly, now you are getting it.
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16 minutes ago, ink said:
@Sheepy and @Ween Dwijler
You literally will NOT answer a question will you .... lmfao
That states all that anyone reading this thread (not threat as you posted ween) needs to know .... politicians trying to control conversation.
Answer the questions!
Ooh or what? you gonna be a mod? I don't have time for this fool.
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1 hour ago, numnuts said:
When they start using that fooking sort of lingo, then you just know it's time to run for the hills!
Except there ain't no hills you can run too.
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5 minutes ago, ink said:
Not to do with that .... I will type it simple for you
I will not allow the winding up of members, by other (mainly new) members, in order to gain a response which gets the former limited or banned.
It is an old action .... seen many times .... and I will not allow it!
Nobody is trying to wind anyone up but you and you know it. You just had to try harder with the bait and then run off hoping the mods would back you up, makes you look a fool in my opinion and probably a good thing you aren't a mod. It isn't about Diesel who I would have brought back in good time.It is about you.
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Just now, Ween Dwijler said:
I'm sorry, but you act as a tyrant. I'm no way obligated to give you, or anyone else an answer if I don't want it. Ask someone else the question if it is so burning important for you to get an answer. I'm sure there is one in one of the other topics.
Shall we let it rest now?
I doubt it, I was laughing when I will become a mod again so I can have the last word.
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Back at hot topic again, piece of cake, call it what you like, I cannot be bothered I don't have the time or the inclination. It would be unfair on him anyway.
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2 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said:
A Scottish cat?
Take no notice he is out to prove how clever he is, which he doesn't know what I know, he can add to thread it ain't a crime. A bee in the bonnet.
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2 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said:
My dear friend, I appreciate your help, but I don't have the time to figure out riddles. Please post a link or the the forum title. Would you be so kind?
It isn't a riddle you are on the second most read thread on the forum and you said you needed some help and I pointed you towards some.
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2 hours ago, Ween Dwijler said:
No, just did a Blade Runner '82 -"Like tears in the rain...." battery loaded again.
I already gave you the second most read thread on the forum, now you have to keep it going.
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38 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:
The MSM are extremely reluctant to cover the protests, and when they do(which is rare) they always lie about the turnout. They don't want the masses to know these protests are happening. Why? because it doesn't fit their narrative.
It ain't rocket science is it mate, they mean to take away everything we hold dear, like democracy the right of reply and fair play, if they have to starve you beat you and even kill you to achieve it they will, on the other hand like a kid with their toys, we will take them away. Lets see how they get on with no power and no wealth and no control.
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6 minutes ago, Golden Retriever said:
I think it's real. The woman was Fiona Hine. I recognise her voice.
King's College recently. Piers Corbyn also at the same prsentation?
Horses for courses GR horses for courses.
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26 minutes ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:
I wonder why protest enthusiasts don't seem to acknowledge that "protests" are expected and planned into the scenario i am certain the protesters have done NOTHING that wasn't "expected"
i am sure simulated protests have been practiced by the cult over and over again
Do protesters really think they have taken the rulers by surprise?
with their legally planed and police sanctioned march
i hear some of them claim they believe they are delaying the onset of world enslavement
are they really this gullible
nullifying the cults evil ways with catchy slogans written on cardboard held aloft by sticks
that's sure going to frighten them
many of them only protesting on weekends because they can't get the time off work during week days
their boss won't allow it
protesters seem to me to be virtue signalers with delusions of grandeur
BUT at least i am doing something i hear them cry
yes you are being very predictable
I guess you don't protest then, but I don't hear David Icke complaining after all he turns up at most of them.
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38 minutes ago, Ween Dwijler said:
Yours I know. ;-) The Alba like can be read as that?
Sorry, I'm a bit cooked from all the reading and info of today. Absorption limit nearly reached....for now.
Well, you take a little nap, I am not sure where yours come into it, because populists are populists.
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It is all rather clever really, first we give this vaccine which isn't a vaccine, then if it kills you will have died for the greater good. All hail the greater good. After all it is only what you voted for, but wait no I didn't, yes you did you voted for the leaders that are only doing your bidding. Nothing to do us pulling the strings behind the scenes all of your own doing.