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  1. 1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

    lt's crazy... :O( 

    People all over the place.
    Chaos

     

     

     

     

     

    Bravo Basket. The protestors are running rings around the police, without being kettled atm. 

     

    I'm watching the Subject Access thread. He jumped in a cab from Parliament Square to Speakers Corners, where

    the police tried to break it all up, but failed.🙂

     

    Now they are marching down Oxford Street.

     

     

     

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  2. If Joe Public travelling into or out of Kings Cross (not for the protest) have their trains cancelled or diverted and/or if Joe Public

    not sympathetic to the protest are kettled, this will impact negatively on those trying to expose the Covid fraud. The media will

    love it.

     

    As Nobby said, multiple venues is a great idea and imo open spaces.

     

    Here's an interesting pdf for the organisers to look at, if anyone is in touch with them.

     

    https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmselect/cmhaff/418/418.pdf

     

    excerpt

     

    House of Commons Home Affairs Committee Policing of the G20 Protests Eighth Report of Session 2008–09

     

    Relations with the Media

    5.The importance of an unencumbered media, free to report on large-scale events like the G20 Protests, is self-evident, not just as an end in itself but because a good relationship between the media and the police can be mutually beneficial. As ACC Duncan McCausland of the Police Service of Northern Ireland told us: We have found it far easier, in effect to help the media do their job and the media work with us in terms of what we are trying to achieve on the day, because the media are part of the community and part of potentially providing a win-win situation and a compromise.

     

     

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    22 minutes ago, Joebman said:

    Yeah and kings X has a British Transport Police police station inside so already it seems a bad idea to hold a rally next to a police station. Second off the square outside isn’t very big , easy to be kettled . Anyone arriving into kings X via train will be pulled. The streets running around kings X don’t seem ideal either . But maybe I’m wrong let’s see how it goes ! 

     

    I absolutely agree with you. 

     

    It makes much more sense to hold the protest in one of the many London Parks.

     

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettling

     

    The UK police have a history of this kettling practice.

     

    United Kingdom

    The Battle of Orgreave, a violent day in the year long Miners' Strike in Great Britain, has been cited as an early example of police kettling a crowd of protesters.[27]

    Parliament Square Disability Rights Demonstration, 1995

    The kettling tactic was used in the UK against disabled people during a Disability Rights Demonstration in Parliament Square, London, in October 1995. [28]

    N30 anti-WTO demonstration, 1999

    The kettling tactic was used in the UK at the N30 anti-WTO protest at Euston station, London (parallel to the shut-down of the meeting in Seattle) on November 30, 1999.[29] It was a development of previously used police cordoning tactics - the difference was the long length of time, constant impermeability and the small size of the kettle.

    May Day 2001

    The tactic was used in the UK by the London Metropolitan Police during the May Day riots of 2001 to contain demonstrators. However, the action also resulted in large numbers of bystanders as well as peaceful demonstrators being detained in Oxford Circus.[2]

    G8 summit, 2005

    Kettling was later used at protests against the 31st G8 summit, held in 2005.[30]

    G20, 2009

    Kettling was used once again during the 2009 G-20 London summit protests outside the Bank of England, as part of the police Territorial Support Group's "Operation Glencoe".[2] When police started to allow protesters to leave the kettle, they were photographed by Forward Intelligence Teams and told to give their names and addresses. Some refused to do so and were forced back into the kettle by police.[31] A number of complaints over the tactic were subsequently made to the Independent Police Complaints Commission.[32] Bob Broadhurst, the commanding officer during the protests, said that, "kettling was the best option" to counter the potential of widespread disruption by protesters".[33]

    On April 15, 2009, Scotland Yard ordered a review of these tactics. Criticism of the policing of demonstrations has been increasing, and amateur video footage which recorded two incidents of violent police behaviour, notably the death of Ian Tomlinson, brought police tactics into the media spotlight. The incidents were said by Sir Paul Stephenson, Metropolitan Police Commissioner, to be "clearly disturbing",[34] and Stephenson ordered the review to consider whether the tactic is "appropriate and proportionate".[34] The video footage also showed that police officers were concealing their shoulder identification numbers whilst on duty.[35]

    An inquiry was held by the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) into an incident during the G20 protests, in which a woman held in a kettle suffered injuries from police action and subsequently experienced a suspected miscarriage. The inquiry concluded in August 2009 that the Metropolitan Police should review its crowd control methods, including the tactic of kettling.[36]

    Denis O'Connor, Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Constabulary, said in a report concerning the policing of the G20 protests that some police commanders did not understand the House of Lords' ruling[37] regarding kettling. He also stated that containing protesters in a kettle was "inadequate" and belonged to a "different era" of policing. He did not suggest that kettling should be abandoned but rather that the methods must be adapted so that peaceful protesters and bystanders are able to leave the kettle.[38] The report also commissioned a survey, conducted by MORI which found that the majority of the UK public do feel that the use of kettling is appropriate in some situations. Depending on the circumstances, between 10% and 20% of those questioned feel that it is never appropriate to contain people in this way.[39]

    In April 2011, the High Court of Justice ruled that kettling on that occasion was illegal, and it set out new guidelines as to when police were permitted to kettle protesters.[40] This means that the police "may only take such preventive action as a last resort catering for situations about to descend into violence".[41] Police would still legally be allowed to kettle if they had reason to believe that violence would break out.[original research?]

    Student protests, 2010

    Kettling was used during the 24 November 2010 student protest in London and in various other locations around the country. Guardian blogger Dave Hill thought the kettling was in retrospect "probably inevitable", after the protest two weeks before had led to damage at the Conservative party headquarters.[42] In July 2011 three school children challenged the use of kettling of children at this protest. They sought a judicial review in the High Court, arguing it broke the laws of the European Convention on Human Rights, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child and the Children Act 2004, mainly the right to protest and the safety of children.[43]

    Kettling was used to contain student protesters in Parliament Square on 9 December 2010 and thereafter on Westminster Bridge.[44] Protesters were trapped in Trafalgar Square and other landmarks for up to nine hours. An anaesthetist from Aberdeen Royal Infirmary working as part of a field hospital said that there was a serious health and safety risk to people trapped in the kettle and some suffered crush injuries whilst others were nearly pushed off Westminster Bridge into the freezing Thames, likening it to the Hillsborough disaster.[45]

    Anti-Cuts protests, 2011

    Kettling was again used at the March 2011 anti-cuts protest in London. Activists were given assurances by Metropolitan police that they would be shown to safety after the protest, which was described as non-violent and sensible. Once outside, the protesters were kettled, handcuffed and taken into custody.[46]

    In 2012, kettling was deemed lawful, overturning a previous High Court ruling. The ruling was immediately criticised by protesters and their lawyers, who plan to take the matter to the Supreme Court.[47]

    Legal challenges

    Following the use of "kettling" during the May Day protest in 2001, two people who had been corralled by the police at Oxford Circus sued the Metropolitan Police for wrongful detention, alleging that it was in breach of the European Convention of Human Rights, and that they had been held without access to food, water or toilets.[48] The pair lost their court action in 2005,[49] and their appeal failed in 2007[50] when the Court of Appeal backed the High Court ruling.

    In 2009, Austin v Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis,[51] a ruling by the House of Lords, decided that the High Court was entitled to take into consideration the "purpose" of the deprivation of liberty before deciding if human rights laws applied at all.[52] Summing up, Lord Hope said:

    There is room, even in the case of fundamental rights as to whose application no restriction or limitation is permitted by the Convention, for a pragmatic approach which takes full account of all the circumstances.

    — Baron Hope of Craighead, quoted in The Guardian[53]

    A plaintiff from the 2001 protest, along with three non-protesting members of the public who had been kettled by police, took an appeal to the European Court of Human Rights, claiming that kettling violated Article 5 of the European Convention on Human Rights, the right to liberty and security. It was reported:

    Austin, who the court accepted was a lawful and peaceful demonstrator prevented by her detention from collecting her child, is to take her case to the European Court of Human Rights. It is to be hoped the ECHR will look again at the question of whether the "balance" and "public safety" is all on the side of allowing the police to carry out long containments or whether such imprisonment does not after all breach fundamental rights.

    — Louise Christian, The Guardian[53]

    In March 2012 the Court ruled that kettling was lawful and that the Metropolitan Police were entitled to detain groups of people as "the least intrusive and most effective means to protect the public from violence". On the issues related to the European Convention on Human Rights, the court ruled:[3]

    Article 5 did not have to be construed in such a way as to make it impracticable for the police to fulfil their duties of maintaining order and protecting the public.

    — Grand Chamber, European Court of Human Rights, Ruling, March 2012[3]

     

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  4. 1 hour ago, Joebman said:

    Does anyone else think that Kings X isn’t the best location to choose ? 

     

    Doesn't make sense to me neither.

     

    The organisers wrote  "PLEASE NOTE THE LOCATION HAS CHANGED DUE TO KETTLING TACTICS RECENTLY".   It's easier to be

    kettled at Kings Cross Station, than Battersea Park.

  5. 19 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

    I have seen Fiona's video too where she has a go at Geza. I think he had raised some questions about why she was so quick to the police station to support Dr Schoening, when she wasn't even at the event on the 26th Sept, with a suggestion that she was trying to poach him for Kate Shemirani's doctor's crowd (19th Sept). To be honest, I had wondered the same thing... She then criticises Save Our Rights for not sending anyone but it seems to me that she was she was keen to be first in there.

     

    She (Fiona) said at the beginning of a video on her Facebook page yesterday, she wasn't at the protest and the only reason she was involved with Heiko Schoning at

    Wandsworth Police Staion was because Prof Dolores Cahill phoned his wife!  So I assume, but not know, Heiko Schoning's wife had Fiona's number. If that's

    the case and they know each other I'm confused as to why the doctor didn't appear at the previous rally organised by Fiona Hine. 

     

  6. 1 hour ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

     

     

    Kate Shemirani and her PA Fiona Rose-Diamond - who have both been charged with organising the Trafalgar Square rally on the 19th Sept - emphatically state that there are infiltrators. They have been pointing fingers at Piers Corbyn, and Louise Creffield and Vincent of Save Our Rights.

     

    However, Kate Shemirani is involved with Mark Steele who, in my opinion, is deeply suspect. And they were the group to split off from what had been a joint effort on the 29th August, creating a division. Could there be an element of sour grapes as their event wasn't as well attended?

     

    It is very difficult to know who to trust. Or is it just a case of egos and chinese whispers...?

     

     

     Hi Eve

     

    I don't know who any of these people are in any of the groups, but ............. I don't really like any of them!

     

    This Kate woman talks about when she was arrested in a longer interview and about her 20,000 pound jewellery she was wearing in the Police Station!

    She still wants her followers to dig deep and pay for her legal costs. Crowd funding this and crowd funding that.

     

    God Almighty. Can't they all put the differences aside and come together as one group? Or is this all done on purpose to divide

    people about imo the most important topic of our lifetimes

     

    PS Her PA's real name is Fiona Hine and she was having a go on her Facebook page at a guy called Geza Tarjanyi who I believe may be one of the only

    sincere people around camping outside number ten Downing Street for 52 days and nights 

     

     

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  7. Just a reminder to the folks of Victoria and Australia. Your Governments are occupied by Zionists, like most of the world.
     
    Here is the Zionist Dan Andrews in charge of Melbourne.
     
     
    DanielAndrews.jpg
     
    andrewsyadvashem_78259_tn.jpg

    Victoria opens office in Tel Aviv

    www.jwire.com.au/victoria-opens-office-in-tel-aviv/

    Premier Daniel Andrews "feels at home" in ISRAEL. Wailing at the wall photo on facebook link.

    www.facebook.com/nathanonisrael/photos/a.124493168262878/135356023843259/?type=3&theater

    Victoria Strengthens Biomedical Ties With Israel (June 2019)

    "Victoria will continue to build global connections and international research collaboration after the Andrews Labor Government announced an Israel liaison officer would be based at Parkville’s Melbourne Biomedical Precinct."

    www.miragenews.com/victoria-strengthens-biomedical-ties-with-israel/
     
    “The simple step of a courageous individual is not to take part in the lie." Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn
  8. Very best wishes to the protesters in Melbourne tomorrow.

     

    Make no mistake, this is different from the London and Berlin protests.

     

    Promoting the event on social media has led to police arresting many people for incitement.

     

    Melbourne is under a strick lockdown, so the protests are illegal, meaning people will be arrested and fined heavily by the pig police agents of the State.

     

    We are the 99% and bloody good luck to you all. ❤️

     

     

     

     

     

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  9. We need to support all these protests worldwide and not just in the UK.

     

    Rik Mayall's last UK film before he died was a low budget independent film, called One By One.

     

    He must have known about the UN depopulation agenda.

     

    This is a trailer and the second video is the full film.  When worth watching, not for the acting which is amateur imo but for the

    message.

     

     

     

     

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  10. Many thanks Eve.

     

    Spoiler alert.

     

    "The Big Prick" rode by the unpopular Little Willie Gates and trained by Manlinda Gates loses.

     

    The winner is "The Truth" 

     

    Some great horse names in the race, "toilet paper",  "It's  all BS",  "flattening the curve",  "the ventilater",  "social distancing" etc 🤣

     

    2020 Coronavirus Cup aka Melbourne Cup

     

     

     

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