RobSS

You sound like a lot of Jehovah Witnesses - everyone is bad except themselves because only they see the truth, and so they constantly tell people how bad the world is to prove their own terrible personal reality.

Then be specific and not vague and general. Just posting a video with no comments says dada.

So how is the Everyman character in Led Zeplin and the LGBT movement then? How am I wrong about that?

You're pointing the finger of blame again. But this thread is about questioning the Everyman character and what wisdom can be learned from this aspect of human nature. If you only want to focus on material reality and the red bricks, why don't you do your own thread on the subject? I might even be able to contribute my own knowledge to your red bricks.

But once you've pointed the finger of blame, what then? The guillotine, and then what? The hand of Vengeance found the Bed To which the Purple Tyrant fled The iron hand crushd the Tyrants head And became a Tyrant in his stead William Blake

You're giving irrelevant examples. Everyman FOOL characters are not in the LGBT movement or in Led Zepplin.

But you don't have to accept everything into your psyche that you see in film or book. You can chose and take responsibility for those choices. It's a waste of time just blaming books or films. You don't have to accept everything. You can sort the wheat from the chaff. Then the bay isn't thrown our with the weeds or the bathwater.

What is real. Everything in reality is an idea. Why are you worried about being a therapist to everyone? That's an impossible task! It's far more productive to learn wisdom that in turn will inspire other people to learn wisdom.

Then put it into your own words. What has moral relativism got to do with Mowgli. Don't be vague, be specific!

That's what I am doing but it is that what you're really though? All I see is you looking at the personality and digging the dirt. I don't see you questioning much about the story and the characters hardly at all.

Which leads to the culture of blame and complaining. Complaining about what people do and what they were involved in, etc., has nothing to do with learning the deeper and more valuable insights that can be learned from characters who interact with life in a way that teaches lessons and raises question about morality and the human condition. What is the matrix? What is the significance of the Grail? Why did Klingsor turn to evil? Who is Kundry really? Who does the Grail serve? Answers to these questions, and many more, will never come in the all the time spent digging the dirt on people and finding blame.

I'm not trusting them at all. Like I said, I'm not so much interested in the cult of personality. I'm more interested in the realms of human experiences.

I agree, and Frodo renounces magic. Harry Potter though can't get enough of it.

How you engage with this reality determines what kind of reality you have, so you're really just playing with words. What leads to mental illness is not learning wisdom and only focusing on material reality and the culture of blame.

I want to see what's in the blue bricks. What do characters such as Mowgli, Frodo and Parsifal learn in their adventures. That's the kind of questions I ask. You only want to look at the outer red bricks.

Where have i said you should blindly trust any process? I've never said any such thing! I actually said in the post you replied to that do actually need to take responsibility for your own reality, so I'm really puzzled by your comprehension here.

It depends what you mean by "orthodox Christian". I believe that LotR is Christian and nothing conflicts with the Bible, but of course, the bible is the ultimate authority and not the commentary of man, which is where things like the Talmud are in gross error, for inverting truths and wisdom. Regarding 'Harry Potter' there are two main schools of thought. Harry Potter uses magic as a means to get through life. The latter renounced magic and the occult, and in so doing had to rely on his skills that could only originate from within. This gave him the ability to overcome his lower self and defeat evil. Frodo does not rely on the occult. Gandalf did, but it meant he wasn't able to go as far as Frodo.

I addressed these things here: https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/25220-the-jungle-book-as-an-allegory-for-political-society-the-conflicts-between-man-nature/&do=findComment&comment=380946 In particular, the quote by C.S. Lewis, through Aslan (Jesus Christ): "They have chosen cunning instead of belief. Their prison is only in their minds, yet they are in that prison; and so afraid of being taken in that they cannot be taken out."

No, in the context of the metaphor, "Not being able to see the wood for the trees", I look at the wood. There is spirit and then there's material reality. I think of spirit as being the 'blue bricks' and 'material reality' as being the 'red bricks'. You like to focus on the 'red bricks'.

The impact they have is entirely up to you as you're responsible for creating your own reality. Personal reality cannot be created by blaming other people. So it's not the stories that are evil or bad, it's how they are viewed. Most people just dismiss them and in so doing they throw the baby out of the bathwater. That's why the illuminati place put the truth where conceited minds won't look. You have to take responsibility for your own reality instead of looking for blame and walling in distrust. For example, at the end of C.S. Lewis's Narnia tale, "The Last Battle", Aslan (Jesus Christ), says: "They have chosen cunning instead of belief. Their prison is only in their minds, yet they are in that prison; and so afraid of being taken in that they cannot be taken out." The astral is merely the matrix. You can't leave the matrix unless you understand what the matrix is and take responsibility for your own reality.

The illuminati have a duty to reveal their agenda in advance but they conceal truths in places where most people are less likely to look, and I explained the reasoning for that already, in the post you replied to: It's the last place a conceited person with the wrong attitude would look. In order to find inner revelation, the heart needs to be open, and the intellect needs to be at the service of the spirit. Proud people who value their intellects and academic knowledge, above anything else, are too busy concerning themselves with how to impress others with their cleverness and status. "That's all part of the dream world, only suitable for children, and dreamers", they say, and so they look down on such things from a position of superiority, as they believe their brain's intellect is far superior to the spirit that comes from the heart.

You seem to be falling back on your default position of throwing the baby out with the bathwater all the time. By not focusing on the kernel of the truths, there's the risk of not seeing the wood for the trees. Personalities are interesting but they should not occult the truths, so therefore, I'm more interested in Mowgli than I am of Rudyard Kipling, I'm more interested in Milo than I am of Norton Juster, I'm more interested in Pinocchio than I am of Carlo Collodi, I'm more interested in Gulliver than I am in Jonathan Swift, I'm more interested in Parsifal than I am in Richard Wagner, etc. I'm not interested in the cult of personality.

A lot of movies reveal the cabal's hidden agenda, and the true nature of our make-believe world, but relatively few do so in a way that's beneficial to the viewer... in a way that's spiritually uplifting, inspiring and confidence building. For uplifting films I'd recommend films made for children, but ones that are also made with adult satisfaction in mind. Fairy tales contain a lot of positive information. Books are the ideal medium, but every so often, a director comes along who adds insights to a classic tale that are unique and full of value. Of course, there are also many stories and films that come somewhere in the middle. Fairy tales were originally much darker than the ones most people have come to know through writers such as Hans Christian Anderson, and the Brothers Grimm. A lot of artists over the past century and a half have taken very old ideas and reworked the essence of these stories in such a way so as to create an almost original appearing story, and in some cases they no longer even appear to be simple fairy tales, but they still have a lot of the essential information embedded in them that are seeds for growth, and new ideas. Why are stories made for children that also satisfy adults, the best places to find information? It's the last place a conceited person with the wrong attitude would look. In order to find inner revelation, the heart needs to be open, and the intellect needs to be at the service of the spirit. Proud people who value their intellects and academic knowledge, above anything else, are too busy concerning themselves with how to impress others with their cleverness and status. "That's all part of the dream world, only suitable for children, and dreamers", they say, and so they look down on such things from a position of superiority, as they believe their brain's intellect is far superior to the spirit that comes from the heart.

I strongly identify with Mowgli. He was brought up by wolves and animals who taught him the ropes and the secrets of the jungle clan. I grew up close to the street with wild skinheads and subsequently had many encounters along the way, similar to Mowgli with his encounter with Shere Khan. I also identify with Milo, Frodo, Pinocchio, Gulliver, Jack, and Aladdin, who was also a street urchin, but I'm going to start a new thread on this in order to explore the topic more fully and see if other people feel the same about these Everyperson stories. I say 'person' because there are also Alice and Dorothy, two tourists of the astral realm who shouldn't be neglected or forgotten, and sometimes they come as a pair, like Hansel and Gretel, who had an encounter with a witch.

Humans are very resourceful at keeping above it all, but it is quite a show. The critical thing is not having attachments and to leave the Titanic.