RobSS

Everything listed is political but you haven't provided any political solution. Just complaining about things on a forum all day isn't going to solve anything!

If it's not a political what kind of solution do you propose?

Not true, even earlier today I made such contributions... such as posts in this thread... https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24631-how-the-david-icke-forum-looked-in-2007/

So you're saying it's not a political issue - "Nothing to do with politics", you say, so what is it then? How would you define it?

What nonsense you write. I'm actually advocating David Icke's views, which you totally ignore! David Icke: "There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other."

I like to look at the even bigger picture and the battle between Good and Evil and the nature of that battle. From my perspective, it's not a battle that can be won through politics because firstly, the whole political system is corrupt and secondly, you cannot win a war in which the enemy is invisible and more powerful than any mortal man.

So you still believe in politics, and the left/right political system, after all the revelations?

Of course I don't believe ethnocide is moral, but I don't believe there's a political solution for the problem, for the reasons I've already given.

Quite a lot of mental gymnastics involved in you trying to justify Truthspoon's remark, which I don't buy into, and it wasn't just a one-off comment. He's made many provocative comments designed to incite racial tensions. It's not just a case of one comment.

You're not getting the message... Christ's kingdom is "not of this world", so it's not a question of me having a "personal jihad to clear out those pesky people", as you suggested, and yes, I can chose to follow Christ, rather than follow any man. A lot of Christian men refused to fight in WWII on similar grounds.

Where did I promote the idea that you should only do what's good for you personally? You're putting words into my mouth. I'm doing what I think is best for Christ's kingdom, not what's best for me personally. I'd be okay with sacrificing my life for Christ's kingdom, which is "not of this world".

You're wrong. I'm not bothered if people want to discuss politics on the forum, or complain about immigration, etc., what bothers me is when posters make provocative remarks that are designed to divide people, such as "the only racism that exists in the UK now is anti-white racism".

JC is not an organised religion. It's men who turned his teachings into an institution. The word "church" is not mentioned anywhere in the Bible.

I'm not familiar with that, but if it's a choice between following JC or following a man who says I should fight, I'd rather follow JC, even if it means forfeiting my life. After all... that's the example he gave.

I completely understand that you want to pursue a political solution, but JC said, "my kingdom is not of this world", which is why many Christians don't get involved in political activism.

I don't follow Christianity as an organised religion or institution. It sounds like your battle is against something that's too nebulous and to invisible to apprehend and exorcise. I find it more productive to nurture what can be grappled with, and what can be improved and developed.

That's quite a negative outlook. I'm more optimistic. That's all what I call "red brick" thinking, in other words, political. I'm interested in the "blue bricks" and placing them centre stage.. i.e. music and creativity. A lot of the repertoire I perform is by composers such as Gershwin, Cole Porter, Rodgers and Hammerstein, Jerome Kern and Irving Berlin, etc. A lot of your political allies wouldn't be interested in that just because of their hatred of Jews.

So you disagree hatred against black people still exists?

I don't have an answer for mass immigration. I leave that to those who want to play politics, but that doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to discrimination.

I also cited a UK case which no one has disputed. Regarding America, the point is that yes, hatred against black people does still exist. Why not acknowledge that? I'm not reluctant to acknowledge that hatred can also be directed at white people. Skin colour is not the issue. The issue, for me, is discrimination.

I understand you're looking to politics for a solution. I'm looking for a solution in preserving the culture through art, creativity and working with people.

These are all political issues. I'm not a politician and I'm not interested in politics. It's all a pantomime.

I have noted that sometimes you do make an effort to create an atmosphere that's good for reconciliation, such as when you wrote, "People of all skin colours are going to need to give consideration to what they value.....what they want to protect so that it carries forward into what's coming next." I'll leave it to the poster who wrote, "the only racism that exists in the UK now is anti-white racism", to speak for themselves.

I agree with the text I highlighted, but if you were genuinely interested in healing divisions, why do you ignore provocative comments, such as when a poster - one of your allies - says, "the only racism that exists in the UK now is anti-white racism", then you should ask why that person thinks like that because what they've said isn't true. - what you say doesn't make sense.

Did they? The 3 men didn't "block" Arbery, They were at an intersection. Arbery turned and ran at the younger McMichael. The 9-1-1 call had just finished as Arbery approached, and the call stated their location, and why they were there - to tell the police which way Arbery was going. The McMichaels didn't even know Bryan, or that he was following. The original DA who wrote a report, and concluded there was nothing to charge them for. All of the evidence, including the Bryan video, supported the McMichaels' version of events, including one wound to Arbery's hand, consistent with him trying to grab the gun. The DA then realized he knew who the older McMichael was, and withdrew from the case in order to prevent any appearance of conflict of interest. This was a political show trial. The case I chose to show that racism against coloured people still exists in America may not have been the best example, and Mac is good at smoke and mirror deflections, but there are still many other cases, like the George Lloyd murder. I'm sure I could find many other examples of hatred directed at coloured people in America and the UK case I cited hasn't been disputed, but to say that such discrimination doesn't exist is just a perversion of the truth, and in reality all people are coloured, anyway. In addition to all that, we also have to address a new form of discrimination... that of the discrimination of people who have not been vaccinated. The lengths some people go to focus on the faults of a coloured person, all the time distracting away from the reality 3 white men were criminal to take the law into their own hands.