RobSS

Apologies for the previous digression. After reading TS's long diatribe against London, I also thought I was in the other thread. Regarding your picture, it's from a display over Royal Naval College in Greenwich. It looks like it's definitely a lion!

What's your solution? Last time I'll ask!

Which country are you in? If you're in England, this site may have helpful info: https://www.workersofengland.co.uk/latest-news/fact-sheet-for-employees-who-are-facing-employer-action-regarding-mandatory-vaccination-refusal/

Contrary to what some would have you believe, there are still great many white people living in the East End. I live in Shoreditch and the area is still predominantly white. I live in Shoreditch and moved into this area in 1985. At that time, the area was predominantly white working class families. It was quite a rough area, as the area had suffered historically from social deprivation. It was quite a male dominated community and women and children were not treated well by the fathers, who were often boozers. I lost count of how many times I woke up on a Saturday or Sunday morning to men having huge rows with their wives, and this is something which has thankfully become very rare over the past 20 years. I can't remember the last time I've heard a drunk husband drunkenly shouting at his wife and family. The biggest change I've seen isn't from immigration but from gentrification. Most of the families in the area are now much better off and more comfortable. The local council has spent a vast amount of money improving the local facilities. There's a very popular street market, several concert venues and no shortage of 24/7 shops, which are incredibly inconvenient. They are run by immigrants, so that's one example of a good thing that immigration has brought. The white working class families that were originally here were quite lazy. A lot of them moved out to Essex. Some people only want to focus on the negative side of life. London is still a great city!

I first joined the David Icke forum in 1999, and there were only a total of about 4 or 5 members and about 15 threads, there only being one general section, others! Posts were few and far between. Things didn't really pick up pace until 2001 with 9/ll, which really started to get people interested the subject. Another catalyst that brought a lot of people to the forum were the London bombings, on 7th July 2005. I remember when TS joined the forum, then, as EP. He has changed a lot since. Very few posters have remained active from the beginning through to current times. People have came and gone.

So what solutions do you have, if any?

It's never a waste of time to keep repeating that! I didn't mean to imply that anyone must be creative or fit and healthy, it was just an idea! Again, this can never be repeated too often!

There are many things that can be done, like become more creative and better as a person. If everyone did that, instead of pointing fingers, a lot of problems would be solved, and the country would be a much better place.

This is just copy-and-paste complaining.

I hope I'm making a contribution to countering a lot of the things you mention. I'm involved with an opera company and give concerts, for example, encouraging other musicians to create variety in life, which I think you mentioned, and I try to communicate the wonder of life. If everyone did something to make their street or neighbourhood more creative, the country would be a much better place to live in. Doing something is much better than watching TV and complaining all day, and eating fast food, so health and fitness is another positive area for development.

Carrying the burden for humanity is a huge undertaking if you don't have a clear and specific idea how you can alleviate that burden, which is why i recommend working on things you can change that are within your abilities. One has to learn to walk before one can run. I agree the system will crash but somehow we'll get through and a Way will be found as things unfold. I trust in God's plan.

You've got your vision and I have mine, which is to return the Holy Spear to the Grail.

I used to think like that when I was very young. I admire your idealism.

All sounds very well intentioned, but it's a bit vague and I think there are different kinds of related issues that are more important, but thanks for the reply.

So what's you're solution, apart from complaining?

Everything listed is political but you haven't provided any political solution. Just complaining about things on a forum all day isn't going to solve anything!

If it's not a political what kind of solution do you propose?

Not true, even earlier today I made such contributions... such as posts in this thread... https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24631-how-the-david-icke-forum-looked-in-2007/

So you're saying it's not a political issue - "Nothing to do with politics", you say, so what is it then? How would you define it?

What nonsense you write. I'm actually advocating David Icke's views, which you totally ignore! David Icke: "There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other."

I like to look at the even bigger picture and the battle between Good and Evil and the nature of that battle. From my perspective, it's not a battle that can be won through politics because firstly, the whole political system is corrupt and secondly, you cannot win a war in which the enemy is invisible and more powerful than any mortal man.

So you still believe in politics, and the left/right political system, after all the revelations?

Of course I don't believe ethnocide is moral, but I don't believe there's a political solution for the problem, for the reasons I've already given.

Quite a lot of mental gymnastics involved in you trying to justify Truthspoon's remark, which I don't buy into, and it wasn't just a one-off comment. He's made many provocative comments designed to incite racial tensions. It's not just a case of one comment.

You're not getting the message... Christ's kingdom is "not of this world", so it's not a question of me having a "personal jihad to clear out those pesky people", as you suggested, and yes, I can chose to follow Christ, rather than follow any man. A lot of Christian men refused to fight in WWII on similar grounds.