RobSS

Of course, there is going to be a big operatic drama, but the cabal is doomed.

Jesus Christ wasn't European.

Never heard of him, so you'll have to say what you're point is...

The cabal tried to inject woke-ism into English Touring Opera company but they failed, and they'll keep on failing if they try again. Because you've put so much effort into proving the cabal's agenda, I'm getting the feeling you want the cabal to succeed, or perhaps you've spent too long in an enclosed social media bubble echo chamber, and you're out of touch with what's actually going on.

Europeans may have produced Christendom, but they didn't produce Christian beliefs.

You're worrying too much. The woke agenda is not inveigling it's way into the opera. Dominick Haddock, Head of Development, Communications and Sales, was forced to leave English Touring Opera. He carried the can for James Conway, who signed a disastrous letter to 14 orchestral musicians, telling them they were being replaced by ‘more diverse’ new hires. James Conway has since disappeared, and his name and email have been removed from English Touring Opera's website, where Haddock’s job is now also vacant. That's just one example where the woke agenda is not "inveigling".

Who cares what the world thinks. Classical artists don't think like the world.

Luckily, the companies that stage the best Wagnerian productions aren't controlled by the cabal or the corporate music industry.

That's not what Oksana Lyniv, said, though. She said talent should be the determining factor, not political correctness. You're forgetting that classical artists can quickly recognise if real talent is not being allowed to come through, which is why I mentioned English Touring Opera has already apologised for it's attempt at enforcing an enforced discrimination policy. It may be what the Art's Council wants, but if the musician unions and the public don't want it, the Arts Council can't force things through. Unlike commercial pop, the classical arts won't be a push-over!

The mainstream classical music and opera world is prone to the things you're describing, but I don't think it's going to be as bad as you fear. It's not at all bad that things are getting a good shake up. Many very talented female conductors have been marginalised and suppressed by a male dominated profession, so things like that do need to be addressed, and there does need to be a rebalancing, but it has to be done in a way that Oksana Lyniv has highlighted, which is to allow the best talent to come through, regardless of gender or sexual orientation, etc. So, if there's an audition, and the most talented person for the role happens to be transgender, then they should get the opportunity. The same should be the case, whether they be a man, lesbian, gay man, bisexual or disabled person. At the end of the day, it's talent that will count, and classical artists are very good at recognising real talent. If people aren't happy, they will say, and like Oksana Lyniv, they are speaking out, which is why, in that other controversy, English Touring Opera has been forced to apologise. There are also a lot of successful opera companies and orchestras that operate outside the mainstream corporate system, and because a lot of the repertoire deals with things related to the nature of reality and the forces that shape civilisation, a lot of people at the top of the profession are acutely aware of the cabal's agenda, after all, Wagner made it a huge feature of his music dramas... he not only exposed the agenda, he also foresaw exactly what's taking place now. What makes him even more remarkable is that he had the vision to leave the seeds for a spiritual solution, which Roger Scruton alluded to in the video interview he did with Sarah-Jane Leslie. Wagner understood the problems posed by the cabal and his works have been deeply studied by the profession for well over a century and a half.

Oksana Lyniv: I don’t want quotas for women conductors The first female music director of an Italian opera house has spoken out against reverse discrimination for women conductors... https://slippedisc.com/2022/01/oksana-lyniv-i-dont-want-quotas-for-women-conductors/

Apart from that meme parody... never heard of Joacine Katar-Moreira...

Christianity is not an extension of the Pagan Egyptian Mystery religion. The Pagan Mystery religion is the product of Satan in opposition to God. "One has to ask, which Thutmose you are referring to - there were four. However, in brief, the answer has to be “No!” A better question would be, is the character of Moses dated to the early 18th Dynasty? The answer to this would be yes. In the 18th Dynasty, the name “Moses” was a very popular name, possibly due to the Pharaohs having this name. “Thutmose” basically means “son of/born of Thut”. You might ask why the Moses of the Bible does not have any reference to a god? that is easily answered in that the Hebrews would not have acknowledged the existence of any other god, other than YHVH (many Hebrew names do include the Name “Yah/YHVH”). Thus, it is quite understandable for the Hebrew writers to have referred to him by maybe his popular, diminutive family name - just as we call our son “Ben”, whilst his actual name is “Benjamin”. Did Moses have a Hebrew name, which his Mother, Yochabed gave him? The answer is yes, we find it in the Hebrew of Judges 18:30 - it was ”Manasseh”. However, it is obvious that the authors of the Bible continued to use his popular, diminutive name of “Moses”, given to him & used by his adoptive mother. No, Moses was not any of the four Pharaohs called “Thutmose” but he had been adopted into the dynastic family that liked to use this name." https://www.quora.com/Was-Thutmose-actually-Moses

pi3141, You're making things up... where did I say I don't read what I don't like? Rob

Thank you.

No one is really arguing against the title of the thread. If the comment, "the only racism that exists in the UK now is anti-white racism", had not been made on the forum, this thread wouldn't have existed! The original claim was made on the Covid-19 thread. I didn't want to query that comment there for obvious reasons. Could a moderator please close this thread, thanks. Rob

I'm not surprised that's what the workings of your mind look like.

In your imagination only. So you do think that bad behaviour is only to do with skin colour. Anyhow, that's not the subject of this thread. If you want to prove that point, start a new thread on the subject, thanks.

Thank you. That's all this thread is about. Nothing else here to see. That's debatable, but not the subject of this thread. Racism against black people is still a reality, and there are victims, but there's a difference between acknowledging that and using that as an excuse to cause division.

I didn't say you were actually in a loony cult... I said "symptoms" because you won't reason... it's not about skin colour. Why not look at underlying causes? I'm also replying to each and every point you make, and refuting them. Your mockery is an indication of desperation!

It's not skin colour that causes the problems. I don't subscribe to CRT. It's you who are playing the victim card. Truthspoon played the victim card when he said that the only racism in the UK is against white people. He's playing the victim. You're both playing the victim. It's nothing to do with skin colour. Why don't you get out of your social media bubble and realise that realise how you're being played? This thread is not about "how hard done by [racist against] minorities are [in the west]" - it's about a comment made by someone who shares similar views to you that the only racism in the UK is racism against white people. This thread is about explaining why that statement is false. That's not the subject of this thread.

It's not just white people who are in the way.

So why are you getting involved?

You are playing games, but you're only succumbing to the divide and conquer agenda. I do give an honest response, which you ignore... An honest response to your claim that it's mostly blacks responsible for social disorder is that it's not black skin that causes rioting and social disorder, it's social deprivation and societal problems. Of course you're bored because you can't defend the indefensible.

Who said they were peaceful? They became known as the "Shopping riots" to mock the looters who only cared about greed and vanity, but what you're missing is that it's not black skin that causes rioting and social disorder, it's social deprivation and societal problems. The primary cause has got nothing to do with skin colour but you don't want to know that. You only see the colour of a person's skin.