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  1. Just now, Macnamara said:


    Ok but in theory gangs can degenerate into the things i'm talking about


    There is also a process that happens to humans when they become a crowd. People have written about the phenomenon



    that's the kind of thing i'm talking about


    Yes, it's crowd psychology and the same thing happens at football matches and even at protest demonstrations. It only takes a subsection to start causing trouble and then the media tarnishes the whole protest, and the same thing happened with the skinhead scene. A minority gave the majority a bad name.


    There was an incident in Harlow, Essex where skinheads brought a gig to an end and they smashed up the pub. That was in the mid-1980's. When a lot of skinheads heard about what happened, there was a realisation that it was over and the lunatics had taken over the asylum, but in the preceding years, the naff elements weren't that many, and they weren't a problem. The scene grew too big and a lot of people jumped on the bandwagon who didn't understand what it was originally all about.


  2. Just now, Macnamara said:


    ok rob you just go on invalidating my perfectly valid points if you like but it doesn't mean that there isn't truth in what i say


    You got things wrong and you weren't there. I'm explaining what the scene was originally about, so don't do what the mainstream media tried to do, and don't do what left wing intellectuals tried to and "intellectualise" it.


    Just now, Macnamara said:


    for a great example of what i'm saying look at the gang culture in the US and the breakdown of black families that has gone alongside it


    And didn't you admit that the skinhead culture DID get led astray?


    The skinhead culture got corrupted by politics as more and more extreme right wing thugs infiltrated and took over the scene. They caused trouble at concerts so that venues refused bands to play.


  3. @Gjergj Sk√ęnderbeu


    Some were into forming gangs and going out and causing trouble, but they tended to be associated with the extreme right and I'm not taking sides as if it were a sports game because, as I pointed out, for a lot of us, it wasn't about the left or right wing of politics because we weren't interested in politics. It was about having fun, going to lots of gigs and enjoying the music, so please don't try to politicise it. That's what the mainstream media tried to do because a lot of people hate it when people break out from the system to have fun without politics.


  4. 1 minute ago, Macnamara said:


    sure but it is still a gang that is filling a need for some young people in the modern world



    I didn't say that they did cause trouble


    What i'm saying is that there is a potential with gangs for them to give in to groupthink and to lose their own individual identity in that. It can be a form of collectivisation and the other point i made is that it is often a surrogate for fathers and i personally feel that the direction that society needs to be moving in is to help families have stability and structure as i believe THAT is the best model for raising young


    A lot of the people I knew, had fathers, came from happy, stable families, and weren't in gangs. I didn't see much evidence of group think. If anything, it was an exploration of individualism and a rebellion against the hive mind of society and the establishment. It was about breaking out, having fun, and enjoying music.


  5. 1 minute ago, Macnamara said:

    The problem that i see with gang culture is that gangs tend to exist as a surrogate father


    They tend to absorb in young lads who don't have a father in the house and I don't personally believe that a gang can be a replacement for a father. I think that gangs can lead to a collectivised sort of mentality that can then feed into groupthink behaviour. Merkl for example was part of communist youth groups and as we know the nazis grew up in response to the communist takeover in russia and they had their own hitler youth groups.


    We have seen an increase in neo-marxist feminism which has made some women very militantly anti-men and this creates antagonism. The state then incentivisies women to actually split up with their husbands by giving them the lions share in divorce settlements. So overly cynical and aggressive women drive men out of the home and the state then compensates those women. This then leads to more single parent homes and more young lads looking for a father without even knowing that is what they are doing and they end up in gangs or sometimes drawn into occult orders


    Gangs and occult orders obviously have their own culture within them and can be steered by nefarious people with nefarious goals. Who does this all suit? It suits marxists who want to destroy the family and replace parents and the religion with the state where the state becomes both parent AND god to the alienated and atomised population


    For most of us, it wasn't anything to do with "gang culture". It was basically actually about just having fun and enjoying the music.


    You weren't there, so it's not surprising you don't understand what it was really about. Of course some were into forming gangs and going out and causing trouble, but they tended to be associated with the extreme right. A lot of skins weren't interested in politics and had nothing to do with it.



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  6. 24 minutes ago, Velma said:


    Normal. What is that? Corrupt and criminal leaders with blood on their hands, making the rules, pharmaceutical corporations profiting from death and disease, international bankers syphoning off all the wealth, insidious tech giants implementing the 'Internet of Things' for a transhuman world, where millions of people are already programmed with ¬†mRNA for the 'Zombie Apocalypse' the internment camps are ready, while we have cyber attacks and war on the horizon, with all the ‚Äúsacrifices‚ÄĚ and suffering that entails. Better not name the perps though, wouldn‚Äôt want to hurt their feelings.



    Things are "normal" in the sense that people I see round here are getting on with their lives as usual. Even what the powers that be are doing is "normal" by their standards, in other words they're doing what they always did, which is putting their interests before anyone else's. So that's normal, but it doesn't make it right, of course. If you're afraid of naming some of perpetrators, ultimately it's people in the secret Lucifarian religion that's an inversion of Judaism. So things are carrying on as normal and it's business as usual.


    When the lockdowns were fist announced back in March 2020, the first thing I realised was that the powers that be were going to use the pandemic as an excuse to commit the greatest theft from the public in world history. Two years later and we're still haven't experienced the full impact of that theft. I see that the UK FTSE 100 is back at almost the highest ever levels in history. We haven't seen anything yet, relatively speaking.





  7. 1 minute ago, Velma said:

    Went shopping today and hardly any staff are wearing masks, the scary green and yellow hazzard tape is gone and perspex screens have been removed in certain stores and I never heard "hands,face, space" on the tannoy!


    Things are going back to normal.


  8. A round up of what's now going on...


    As countries declare endemicity and drop restrictions, how does a battered and bruised society embrace a sudden return to normality? 




    Quote: "Since January 27, England has dropped pretty much all its measures against Covid-19. Any person can saunter into any shop without a mask; work-from-home guidance has been scrapped; and all needs for a vaccine passport have been squashed. England will be the ‚Äúmost open country in Europe,‚ÄĚ proclaimed health and social care secretary Sajid Javid.


    And other European countries are following suit. Ireland has dropped almost all its restrictions, bar mask requirements. Denmark is also eliminating all measures beginning February 1, except for testing on arrival from abroad. Other Nordic countries have signaled they will also do the same in the coming weeks. The Spanish government is urging European countries to consider the possibility that Covid-19 can now be treated as an endemic disease‚ÄĒa permanent fixture in our lives."



  9. 1 hour ago, Gjergj Sk√ęnderbeu said:

    I'm not looking for a fight, but I think you're in denial. This movement was about violence. Violence can be addictive and lead to other addictions and more self-destructive behavior. Same with soccer hooligans. I've seen countless examples in countercultures and soccer hooligans, and I've seen the same self-destructive behavior with people who work in war and conflict zones. I remember a docu on the BBC, I think in the early 90's, that followed some former skinheads and hooligans who where dealing with these exact same problems a decade later. I had problems adapting to civilian life and suffering from extreme rage attacks another 2 decades later when I returned from the Gulf. I didn't realize what was wrong at the time, but another few years later I realized I probably had PTSD.


    Some thought it was about violence, but a lot of us were in it just for the music and music was a huge part of the scene. On any given night of the week, we were spoilt for choice as to which gigs we could go to. A lot of the photographs i took from that period were at gigs.


  10. 12 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

    l'm sorry.
    Here's a virtual tissue for you; 





    Thanks for the apology but I don't need the tissues. I'll still continue to discuss and talk about the Jews in connection with Kundry, the wandering Jewess, and Richard Wagner's last music drama, as that's a subject I cannot not discuss, and it helps to throw light on why the world is in such a mess, cheers.


  11. Just now, Basket Case said:

    lt's not decent to run members around and around with the ALL / SOME racism bullshit shillery trolling.
    So, if someone mentions a bad player in the general conspiracy and they're jewish - YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP.
    Got it ??


    I've never denied there are bad players, and don't swear at me. I've never sworn at you.


  12. 11 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

    Right, so stop posting about it then and rehashing everything that's already been said. Move on FFS, you've already managed to ruin 10 pages of this thread with this race baiting crap. 


    "What can we do to stop racism?"


    "Stop talking about it"


    Morgan Freeman. 


    I'm trying to move on but now you've brought it up. Just let it rest.


  13. 3 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

    Apologies, I stand corrected if this is the part you were referring to in this particular instance, but that still doesn't change the stuff I wrote before about you twisting my post about "war on white people" and kick starting the recent stuff though.


    Since you do go on so much about "racism" at any bloody given chance, and  especially because I do post often in that subsection and you don;t like that and are extremly hostile towards it, it was easy for me over look macs post here and assume it was about me as you did originally jump on the "race" stuff as I posted.


    See I don't mind owning my bullsup and publicly taking it on the chin.

    Pity you can never do the same.




    Thanks for the apology. It wasn't about you, so let's move on, and no, I don't go on about racism "at any bloody given chance". I've already shown that the vast majority of my posts are absolutely nothing to do with that.



  14. Just now, Basket Case said:

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaand there you go again.
    You can't help yourself can you.
    lt's not about obsession.
    That's putting members valid time and research into a bad light. lf you don't like what they find out and share that's not their problem.


    I've never denied there is a problem with some Jews, but there are bad apples in most barrels, and no I don't like it, but then again, who does? 


  15. 1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

    No this was not the point of this interaction.
    Different issue different time.

    l asked you who you were referring to if it wasn't Skitz..
    lf you don't want to answer that's fine, but don't drag a different point in.


    I just want to forget about the whole damn thing. The issue of race I just want to forget about. It ruins lives. Race relations in London have never been better, so I'd like to accentuate the positive, and eliminate the negative and if some want to be obsessed about the Jews that's their prerogative. I'd like to move on and discuss other things.


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  16. In the following quote, from Astrid Varnay's autobiography, "Fifty-five Years in Five Acts", (pp. 116-117), the singer/actress discusses the character of Kundry and gives some interesting insight into Kundry's innermost being, which was one of her many roles on the world's international opera stages:


    "Kundry's sexuality, without love or even a modicum of affection, is like a narcotic. The more Kundry indulges, the more she desires. Parsifal's unexpected rejection drives her to frenzy, to the extent that her mental processes become incoherent. Finally, she confuses feelings and remembrances, and even goes so far as to believe that Parsifal is the One she had laughed at. She begs and pleads with him to "unite" with her for her salvation. Parsifal's denial drives her to form of madness. The effect is like drug withdrawal. The person goes through hell until he or she is healed.


    To make matters even more complicated, Kundry has become a kind of schizophrenic, unaware of one manifestation of her personality while she is locked in the other. In act 1, despite her not realizing she had been at fault in seducing Amfortas, she also has an inner compulsion to atone, like someone on a pilgrimage to a scared shrine, moving up and down the stairs on her knees. And for all the services she renders, she insists on being spared any form of gratitude. "Ich helfe nie," is her response to the thanks of others, "I never help." The reason for this is her belief that gratitude will nullify the validity of the help she has given, and this would mar the selflessness of her acts. It's a very life-negating attitude toward what are basically simple virtues."



    Astrid Varnay as Kundry



  17. Just now, Basket Case said:

    Who were you referring to then ?


    I was referring to a different poster but that wasn't the main point. The main point was that most of my posts are not about the issue of race. The reason why it stands out and puts other things in the shade is because it's an issue that's caused a lot of problems so whenever it's mentioned it stands out, but you were wrong to say that's all i post about.


  18. 1 minute ago, Basket Case said:

    He's very good at seeing 'your' bigger picture here.
    l witnessed you miss-quoting a meme from Danny about Anne Frank in an attempt to back up one of your RACISM !!!!!!! claims.


    We all make mistakes but no, I wasn't referring to skitzorat so he made a mistake too.




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