RobSS

I left the JWs when I was 15. Truthspoon called me a "faggot" the other day and still hasn't apologised and his still attacking me in any way he can/

People who use any story as a tool for mind control are evil, but that's not the fault of the book. It's the fault of people who put things to bad use.

Even the Bible predicts that, hence the fall of Babylon the Great.

No, it's you who are lying. JW's do not believe in the end of the world.

Yes, but no where in the story does it say the brackets are demonic.

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This thread is not about the Watchtower. Stop trolling.

All organised religions are designed to lead people away from being themselves, and from finding the truth within. The purpose of organised religions is to keep people distracted.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in the end of the world. You're making things up.

It's not a straw man. No where in the story does say Mowgli contacts demons or that jewellery contain demons. That's something that Fritz Springmeier has added because of his ignorance of what the shadow self is. It's not a common fallacy that a lot of people have.

Yes, the Jungle Book is about psychology and the human condition. It's about recognising the fact that we have two modes of consciousness. One is driven by the reptilian brain and is to do with survival, and the other is related to higher consciousness and spiritual.

I don't belong to any religion.

Some Satanists may say that but not everyone who says that is a Satanist. I'm saying it because you would do better relying on your own resources rather than succumbing to the need to "belong" to a religion. That's just my opinion, it has nothing to do with being a Satanist, but you see Satanists and demons everywhere, even where there are none, which leads to things like being rude and homophobic.

I left the JWs when I was 15 years old and never had anything to do with the organisation since. Unlike you, I don't need to belong to any religion. I don't need a crutch to get through life to belonging to any group like you do! You need to learn to be free of all that.

I agree with some of Fritz Springmeier's work, but in this respect I think he's wrong and I can explain why... We are not fully human because we do have an animal aspect to our nature. We all live between higher consciousness and the reptilian brain and the instincts to do with survival. The latter side of things is the "shadow", the animal side of our nature - all the things that can affect us but are in the subconscious mind. Fritz Springmeier is obviously unaware of that and is afraid of his own shadow. It's not unusual - a lot of people are, but nowhere in the story does it say that Mowgli uses demons. This is something Springmeier has made up because he's afraid of his own shadow, so he thinks it's a demon! I'm not saying stories can't be used as mind control but that would obviously be the wrong use of a story. All your doing is copying and pasting stuff that you've seen on the Internet that you don't don't fully understand. I didn't praise the work, so you're imagining that. I just thought it was an interesting story because of its underlying message. Of course they want to people to like themselves. They don't want people to find out the truth regarding the human condition, and by the sounds of it, neither do you!

You've said things about me that aren't true and never apologised.

If the story of the Jungle Book is pushing the conspiracy, or if it contains subliminals it's up to you to show that. How can I be an apologist when the "Jungle Book" post was about Freemasonry being bad news for Mowgli? You often don't make coherent sense! They are working against God to establish a New World Order as a substitute for the Kingdom that Christ told his followers to pray for! Because they want to keep truths hidden!

It wasn't an apology. i just said, "no problem".

No problem!

gogglebox - quite a common word in the 70's bunk = play truant (as in bunk off school) chick - girl boner - to have a hard on shag - have sex stellar - awesome

It doesn't matter, I'm not, but I don't care if anyone is gay or not, so I can assure you, no offence was taken!

Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were both very familiar with the occult and they were part of an informal group called the "Inklings", and they knew people who were members of secret societies, but the Inklings wasn't a secret society and I've never come across any claims that Tolkien was a Freemason, so you'll have to provide evidence to back up your claim, not that it would make any difference anyway...

I wrote: "IRC you once said you're not British" "IRC" (if I recall correctly). I never said I was adamant. If you never said it, fine. I accept that!

But I've known that for over 30 years! What's new? It's even mentioned in some programmes you get when you see performances of it in the theatre! Not all Jews are bad and neither is the Kabbalah, in and of itself. Fine. It doesn't. You have to understand the symbolism, which is why a lot of people see films and works of art but the underlying meanings don't always register. What's wrong with the Tree of Life? It stands in the Garden of Eden, but at the end of this age, we have the opportunity to return as fully conscious human beings. That's why, at the end of this Age there is an Apocalypse, which simply means an 'unveiling', or a 'revealing of things that are hidden'. This was all meant to be and is normal. It was even prophesied about: "But you, O Daniel, make secret the words, and seal up the book, until the time of the end: many shall rove about, and the true knowledge shall become abundant." (Daniel 12:4) "And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand." (Daniel 12: 9 - 10, KJV) "Whatever is covered up will be uncovered and every secret will be made known. Wherefore what things you say in the darkness will be heard in the light, and what you whisper in private rooms will be preached from the housetops." (Luke 12:2) Yes, but they didn't take into account that at the end of this age, all their secrets would become public.

It doesn't matter where your from or if you don't want to say.