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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
Agreed. You have articulated how I feel better than I could.
I think a lot of the problem is that people have been sold a fake inverted version of diversity. Herding everyone into urban areas and trying to create some global homogenized people doesn't seem like true diversity of peoples to me.
I want to go to different parts of the world and experience different cultures and what makes them unique. The world would be boring if groups were the same.
That's not saying that different cultures might not have some bad aspects that they/we need to deal with so we can live in harmony, obviously not, just that I want to preserve diversity.
There are good and bad things in all cultures, and racism, which I detest, can occur within any nationality and race, of course.
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Just now, Macnamara said:
i believe cities have a dehumanising effect on people by disconnecting them from reality
this then becomes a big problem for the rest of humanity because 'democracy' as people understand it today is rule by the majority so if there are large amounts of people living in an environment that is disconnected from reality constantly imposing their democratic will on the rest of humanity that is going to cause problems
it is like a spotty teenager whose grown up playing computer games being given a uniform and a job by the military and asked to kill people using drones remotely. There is a disconnect between what they do in their day to day lives and the real world consequences that their actions then have out of sight
A city can have a dehumanising effect on some people, just like loneliness can have a dehumanising effect on some people who live in very rural areas, etc. I try not to male sweeping generalisations about groups of people. I take each person as I find them, as an individual.
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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
urbanite people go to their poxy corporate franchises in their city like starbucks and they order a coffee and they see some brown liquid come out of a machine when the barrista presses a button and they think that liquid just magically appears
it doesn' magically appear. People outside the cities grow the coffee beans and their cows produce the milk and they cut the sugar cane to make the sugar and so on
and you go to other cities in other countries and you find the same corporate franchises and you look around and you think 'the people here look a bit different to me. Their skin is a different shade and maybe their faces are a slightly different shape but they all walk around staring at their smart phone just like me and they stuff their face with mcdonalds and starbucks coffee just like me' so you think 'wow we are all the same. I'm such a virtuous person. I can't understand these racist bigots that think people are different'
But the coffee doesn't just magically appear. Your city is a fake reality. You live in a corporate bubble. It is not the real world. The place that the coffee beans and milk and sugar comes from is the real world
When you use the word "urbanites", does that mean you have a thing against all people that live in a city? I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly.
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16 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
Yes, I agree. I don't like using a broad brush to say a whole group is all bad. I wouldn't like that being done to Europeans, and I don't think it's fair to say that about others either.
Yes, thanks for your reply. That;s the main point I was trying to make in the other thread but instead I was attacked.
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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
harmony is not the reason why the cabal are flooding people into the west
if you want more harmony then the way to achieve that is to halt the flood of people in
anything else at this stage is just going to be empty words
I agree and another way of promoting harmony is not to accuse immigrants of being rapists and criminals, as that only feeds into the divide and conquer agenda.
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I agree political correctness can be divisive. Another thing that doesn't help with racial harmony is portraying immigrants as rapists and criminals. That kind of language doesn't promote harmony. It only encourages division and racism. Would you agree with that?
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Most people on this forum would probably agree there's an agenda to divide and conquer humanity. How can we learn to overcome the challenges this poses?
David Icke has offered interesting observations, and given some solutions on this issue.
Here's a quote from one of his Dot-Connector Videocasts (16/07/21):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/RxlixrJ1xxvB/
Quote"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... you are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other.
You're seeing this so plainly with the cult owned BLM and all the things that go with that, where you take groups and you play them off against each other... when those groups are made up of individuals and those individuals are all part of the same consciousness, ultimately.
So, the idea of the cult is to hold you in five sense perception because then, all these things that suit the cult, the way that people see the world is absolutely what unfolds from that. What they don't want is awakening people to see what others can't see... not because they're better than others, but because they've opened their mind and allowed other levels of reality in to their perceptions, and so we've reached this point now, where that is so plain, well, in-your-face doesn't even cut it. You've got the five senses asleep who just believe whatever information is fed to them. They're not processing information, they're just downloading it. They're not taking various bits of information and reaching unique conclusions, they're simply downloading their perceptions from government statements and psychopaths in the health industry. [...]
So, how do we awaken? Well, for me, it's about self identity. How you see yourself dictates how you experience yourself. If you think you're little me and have no power, you'll live a life of little me and have no power, not because you're little me and have no power but because you believe you are, and therefore, you crave that reality. Your perceptions become your experience. "Nothing ever happens to me", and it never will. It's a feedback loop, while you believe nothing ever happens to you. It's a feedback loop, which the Wetiko cult wants you to perpetuate.
If you want to keep people in the five senses - because that's how you can control them... because that's the only way you can control them really - then you want them to identify the "I" with the five senses. So, you give them labels... things like man, woman, black, white, this sexuality that sexuality... this income bracket that income bracket... this class that class... this age that age... you give them labels, and you tell them and encourage them to self-identify with those labels... the labels of the five senses... what I call, "phantom self", and when the "I" perceives itself only in the five senses... in the realm of the five senses, which is severe limitation or perception of it... then by self-identifying the "I" with the five senses, people become the five senses - it becomes the totality of perception of self, and therefore, they operate in a tiny narrow band of frequency... of possibility... of potential, but if you say, hold on, these labels of human society are not me... they're not the "I"... the true "I"... the infinite "I"... they are simply experiences that the infinite "I"... consciousness... is having. Then, a massive change goes on in your perception of self and your perception of everything."
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5 minutes ago, skitzorat said:
and YOU seem to like creating the same energy in this thread by using the same 'satanic/demons' terminologies and circular reasonings in your off-topic musings while accusing others of putting words in your mouth, just as you did last week under the username weedo..
I have now asked you 3 times who "Weedo" is, and you're not answering!
Why?
I'm saying there's an agenda to divide and conquer and that the human race is in this together. What circular reasons are you talking about, and why can't you see that the agenda to divide and conquer is from a Satanic source? Be specific and answer the questions.
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45 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
you are here telling posters that they can simply disregard everything that went before them and live life off a blank slate and i'm here to tell you that is not the case
i'm here to tell you that woke post modernist service economy people who like to say stupid things like that are CARRIED by those of us who actually make this world work
Where I have told anyone here what they should do?
I've done no such thing!
Where I have told anyone here to discard everything that's gone before and love life off a blank slate?
I've done no such thing!
Where have I written that I want a "post modernist service economy"?
I've advocated no such thing!
You seem to like to imagine things!
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Just now, Macnamara said:
you can't just choose what you like in the world
there are REALITIES to be dealt with
there are consequences for your actions
just because you want to be selfish doesn't mean that if enough people are equally selfish that it won't cause a karmic backlash for everyone as a whole....it WILL
Why is having a choice and being able to choose being selfish?
Who said there aren't realities to be dealt with? Not me!
Again, your reply is so vague and off the mark that I can't honestly think of anything else to reply with...
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Just now, Macnamara said:
that is pure retarded hubris
just because you decide that you like the igloo of the inuit as a shelter to live in does not mean it is going to serve you in your climate
you sound like someone who does a job where you are never at risk of suffering any real consequences for your mistakes
Who said I liked "the igloo of the inuit"? You're reply is so vague that I can't honestly comment any further.
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15 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
I don't think it's that cut and dry. Yes there are more important things than our ethnicity, but I don't think we should deracinate ourselves either.
I could start using Icke quotes about demographic issues and PC culture, but I don't expect everyone to agree with him.
On a thread like this, where Europeans are already figuring out what's happening to them, do you really think you're going to be able to change their minds? Most of us Europeans have been taught from birth that seeing ourselves as a group is evil, I don't think you're going to make people that have woken up from that subversive crap start to think like that again.
We would be stronger if we learned to cooperate and find what unites us rather than divides us. It's the demonic powers that want to divide and conquer.
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9 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
no you are more than the biological product of your ancestors
You are the living off the back of their inventions and their discoveries and their innovations
the only reason you aren't out there tasting different plants and rubbing them on your arm and then your lips and then your tongue and then taking a little bite of them to see if they are poisonous is because your ancestors already learned what plants in your part of the world you could eat and you have inherited that knowledge. You eat that lettuce but how do you know that you can eat that lettuce? You know because that knowledge was passed down to you
I once watched a leading architectural firm build a pitched roof building. We have had pitched roof buildings in scotland for many centuries and they have evolved as a way to deal with the wet maritime climate that we have. We have evolved the technique to use slate because slate is fairly impermeable and sheds water well
But this firm wanted to be clever. You see the vagaries of the post modern climate are such that they felt under pressure to come up with something novel and they placed novelity up as the highest virtue even up above what actually works and is tried and tested. They created an elaborate lattice design using far more wood then would usually be required and all to supposedly remove the need for lateral supports. Well it certainly looked smart except the only problem was that it began to splay. That's right, if it had been left to its own devices it would have folded in on itself and collapsed as if to punish its designers for their hubris!
So they placed a cable across to hold the thing together and then hid the cable behind some trim
All that money and all those fancy materials and they still couldn't build a building that could stand by itself!
if only they had remembered what their ancestors had passed on to them....
but no they were like the little piggy that believed they could build a straw house and everything would be fine. That's you. Your are the little piggy in the strawhouse. You live in a forgiving service economy full of people who never feel directly the consequences of their poor decisions because it all loops back in ways that will affect society as a whole but which they as individuals don't chart to their own short sighted arrogance
I am a biological product of my ancestors and anything more than that and I can make up my own mind which of their inventions and modes of living I would like to appreciate and adopt. I'm not obliged to follow and accept everything from my ancestors, of course not! Many things are good from my ancestors just as it may be worthwhile adopting things from other races and cultures and learning from them too.
But getting back to the topic of this thread, which is, "ls there an agenda to reduce the White European population?" I think there is but I don't think it's just the white population that's being targetted. The demonic powers want to create an "us and them" reality, where we constantly find divisions amongst racial groups instead of harmony and cooperation. Same goes for class struggles and religion, etc. It's a divide and conquer agenda.
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I've just been replying to questions. I'm very delighted to stay more on topic, thanks.
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I've been thinking about this David Icke quote for a while:
QuoteSo, how do we awaken?
Well, for me, it's about self identity. How you see yourself dictates how you experience yourself. If you think you're little me and have no power, you'll live a life of little me and have no power, not because you're little me and have no power but because you believe you are, and therefore, you crave that reality. Your perceptions become your experience. "Nothing ever happens to me", and it never will. It's a feedback loop, while you believe nothing ever happens to you. It's a feedback loop, which the Wetiko cult wants you to perpetuate.
If you want to keep people in the five senses - because that's how you can control them... because that's the only way you can control them really - then you want them to identify the "I" with the five senses. So, you give them labels... things like man, woman, black, white, this sexuality that sexuality... this income bracket that income bracket... this class that class... this age that age... you give them labels, and you tell them and encourage them to self-identify with those labels... the labels of the five senses... what I call, "phantom self", and when the "I" perceives itself only in the five senses... in the realm of the five senses, which is severe limitation or perception of it... then by self-identifying the "I" with the five senses, people become the five senses - it becomes the totality of perception of self, and therefore, they operate in a tiny narrow band of frequency... of possibility... of potential, but if you say, hold on, these labels of human society are not me... they're not the "I"... the true "I"... the infinite "I"... they are simply experiences that the infinite "I"... consciousness... is having. Then, a massive change goes on in your perception of self and your perception of everything.
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Just now, DarianF said:
What's she complaining about. She should just live inside herself.
She wants to go home. What's wrong with that? Home is where the heart is, but there's a lot more to it than that, of course!
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Just now, DarianF said:
Try living in Australia now mate. China looks like freedom paradise by comparison.
There's no where on this planet that I would rather live than who I am in my inner being. As soon as you start searching for something better outside of yourself, you risk getting onto a path that leads nowhere.
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8 minutes ago, DarianF said:
When Icke leaves the wishy washy stuff out of his lectures and sticks to the real world issues, they are much more practicle for a general audience to digest. Good example below:
The REAL issue is who we really are, but because we've been brought up generationally, through our ancestors, to depend so much on the State for knowing who we are, now that we're finding out that the State is a predator, we're also finding out that we collectively don't know who we are as much as we thought we did, hence the global collective human existential crisis that's unfurling in this apocalypse before our eyes. But we can't know who we are collectively until we find out who we really are as individuals and we're on a very steep learning curve. We have to take responsibility for our own personal reality.
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4 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
David often makes it clear that he doesn't expect everyone to agree with him on everything, and often says he just wants people to use their brains and think.
If all Icke followers thought the same as him on everything then that would be like a hive mentality.
I don't agree with everything my tribe says either, which is why I say that being part of a group doesn't mean you can't have an individual personality.
Anyway, this is getting way too off-topic I feel.
So which part of the quote do you disagree with and why?
Quote"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other.
You're seeing this so plainly with the cult owned BLM and all the things that go with that, where you take groups and you play them off against each other... when those groups are made up of individuals and those individuals are all part of the same consciousness, ultimately.
So, the idea of the cult is to hold you in five sense perception because then, all these things that suit the cult, the way that people see the world is absolutely what unfolds from that. What they don't want is awakening people to see what others can't see... not because they're better than others, but because they've opened their mind and allowed other levels of reality in to their perceptions, and so we've reached this point now, where that is so plain, well, in-your-face doesn't even cut it. You've got the five senses asleep who just believe whatever information is fed to them. They're not processing information, they're just downloading it. They're not taking various bits of information and reaching unique conclusions, they're simply downloading their perceptions."
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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
Where did I say I did? I said I'm the culmination of them, not that I share their views on everything.
So, "being the culmination of them" - what exactly does that mean? Is that not wishy washy?
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6 minutes ago, DarianF said:
Hive mind building...
... just sayin ;-)
That doesn't tempt me to want to live in China though...
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3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
And maybe new age isn't the right term, maybe postmodernist is more apt, as it's mainly folks suffering from the ills of modernity that think like this, but they're a minority that would be unrecognizable to most of their ancestors.
Why do you have define yourself by who our ancestors were? I'm doing very well not having to worry about all that. I was brought up as a Jehovah's witness and many of the tactics they used to keep me in the fold are not that dissimilar to people that I speak to that try to convince me that I need to be part of racial tribe. They say you can't survive with that racial identity. The JW's said I couldn't survive not being a JW, but I'm surviving ery well not being a JW and not living up to being accepted in a racial tribe. Why crave after something that's outside of yourself in an external group when God already gave you everything that's already deep within you?
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2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:
All this wishy washy talk that leads people to their doom.
Individualism is healthy, but hyper-individualism that is promoted to white folks, while everyone else is encouraged to be a collective, that is dangerous.
Would you tell uprooted peoples from other groups in the past to stop thinking about the tribe and demography? I hope not.
I would tell people who feel uprooted to start being creative and create their own reality, which is why immigrants often do better than indigenous people, because out of struggles can come great survival skills. Of course it's not always the case but learning to survive on one's own inner resources leads to a more wholesome life than on that is always told what to do, or someone who just does what their ancestors expect of them without question.
Would you describe this quote from David Icke as "wishy washy"?
Quote"There is a field of consciousness that connects everything, so it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, Chinese, Aboriginal... it doesn't matter what your form is... YOU are part of the same consciousness. YOU are just a unique expression of it, and that perception that we're all connected immediately starts dropping the fault lines the cult is desperate to perpetuate, so that different versions of form can be played off against each other.
You're seeing this so plainly with the cult owned BLM and all the things that go with that, where you take groups and you play them off against each other... when those groups are made up of individuals and those individuals are all part of the same consciousness, ultimately.
So, the idea of the cult is to hold you in five sense perception because then, all these things that suit the cult, the way that people see the world is absolutely what unfolds from that. What they don't want is awakening people to see what others can't see... not because they're better than others, but because they've opened their mind and allowed other levels of reality in to their perceptions, and so we've reached this point now, where that is so plain, well, in-your-face doesn't even cut it. You've got the five senses asleep who just believe whatever information is fed to them. They're not processing information, they're just downloading it. They're not taking various bits of information and reaching unique conclusions, they're simply downloading their perceptions."
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6 minutes ago, Firebird said:
We see that everywhere. Many white people are no longer aware of it because development / materialism / consumerism. Meanwhile, Chinese, Indians, etc. are developing a sense of nation building. That's because they're experiencing growth but I can imagine they'll get to that point eventually.
Can you elaborate on "nation building"? Are they developing free and open societies. In the case of the Chinese, they have a totalitarian regime - a good example of hive mind building if ever I saw one.
How can we learn to live in harmonry with a divide & conquer political agenda?
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Well, I have seen some people who live in a city who look more fit and wonderfully healthy than many living in the country, and vice versa, of course!