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For many fruits and berrys that is the case ... Apples Pears Watermellon blackberries , berries of all kinds , the plant wraps the seed in something delisiciouse so mammals eat it and the seed comes out in a nice wrapping of firtilizer , poo.... and so grows ... But grass seeds were never meant to be eaten , so no seed coating to break down , shown by the fact you put these seeds strait in the soil and they grow ! So grass seeds are a very unnatural food for us We aint Buggies! It's hard to avoid... in bread and pietza we are all hooked on it , don't worry too much it won't kill you..... quickly.

I pretty much agree with that Graham ... DI should interact more with those interested in his work ... I have a question for him What about the SSP? You have some suggestions that would work , Graham ? well lets hear them .

I expect most people will be sick to death of hearing "this food is bad for you , that food is bad for you" ... it seems every common food is no good ... But this is to be expected because we have our current diet courtesy of the malevolent ET's who want to slow kill us! It was about 5,000 years ago the "gods" taught humans agriculture .... See Isaiah 28 ...this consisted of growing grass seed .... very labour intensive to produce and an inferior food ... It will keep you alive , but slow kill you .... This shouldn't suprise anyone here ... isn't that what society as a whole is designed to do ? Slow kill you with out you noticing ? That's what the medical system does , and people think it's helping them ... the economic structure is to keep you poor and put you in an early grave through endless work. So all the grass seeds , rice , wheat , oats , barley should be avoided ... They won't kill you outright , but then niether will a covid shot , people would notice. So what can we eat? fruit coconuts , bananas , eggs , chicken .... I still eat bread , on adverage about 1 slice a day , freezing it is supose to make it better.

Is David Icke on board with fake Apollo? I am not aware that DI has ever commented on the idea that Apollo 11 was faked ... Yesterdays article was the closest he has come , to my knowledge . It was about the posibility that NASA is fakeing some ISS, Space station footage , but the picture DI posted was of someone on the moon , hinting that that may have been faked too.... The link from DI's site goes somewhere strange with poor video ... here is the relevant youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZ1S62QxxWM it deals with a citizen bringing this to the attention of a county commision .... I believe the whole area of Appolo and ISS is a mine field intentionally designed to catch people out ... It certainly apears some ISS footage was filmed on Earth , but the evidence is so faint it can easily be countered by the sceptic , and we get nowhere , except perhaps to discredit the truth movement in the eyes of the public.

That's an excelent question EW .... How would we explain that term if your mum asked "what's the NWO?" I would say the NWO is the structure being set up to falicitate easy and effective management of the world ... At the moment there are hundreds of different countries , all with their different leaders , all with different laws and regulations ... it's a nightmare for the would be controllers to control .. so they set about settting up unification ... European countries would unify under the EU .. all have the same regulations , one EU parliament ... Likewise Asian countries are unified under ASEAN 14 different countries Thailand , Philippiens , Vietnam etc ... trying to harmonise with the same regulations , no import restrictions , one parliament ... The Americas have their union I forget it's name .... I think there are 5 different groups for the whole world . And finally these 5 groups will all be unified under one leader .. That was the plan anyway ... But it's really got nowhere . So the controllers wanted the whole world under one legislative control so when the ET's arrive (reveal themselves) .. they will say "we can help solve all your problems , end wars bring you advanced technology , but we must direct things " ... and the structure for this is already inplace for this NWO .. But as I say the illuminati have failed miserably in getting the world ready for this NWO. Russia? .. it's just one insignificant country ... the illuminati trying to establish this NWO are mostly in the West , they are the illuminati , the 13 families outlined by Fritz Springmier

Many threads on Russia on this forum ... I don't think we need to worry about her in a conventional millitary sense ... Those who have been following the Ukraine invasion will realise what an impotent force Russia is , after over 1 year , no progress in conquering such a small county and over half Putins tanks have been destroyed ! So there's no real need for NATO , spending could be cut back ... the population of Russia is only 140 million and she's bankrupt and technologically backward. Russia does have Nukes , although the components in these degrade rapidly and need constant replacement , I expect these are now as useless as the tanks. Is Russia a part of the NWO ... no , but I would imagine Putin has been killed and replaced by a rep shapeshifter ... This is not usually done to politicians who are often only in office for a few years ... but Putin has been in power since 2000! and is a dictator. The dictator of China would also be a prime candidate for rep replacement , he's been in power 11 years and is a much bigger threat than Putin. The controllers will be looking for opertunities to start WWIII before the final chapter.

I've recently been watching some live performances of his .... all are magnificent , he has a very hands on relationship with the crowd ... This clip stands out as the most electric and romantic ever recorded , very short but watch till 3:15

I was profoundly impacted by this group , it seemed they were talking to me and many songs seemed to relate to my mission ... pleasuredome , power of love , relax... None of the members were notable genieses , I think production had a lot to do with it , but they certainly tapped into something ... Here's the video of their reunion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1aVadenHN8 , not realy worth watching . This version is with no visuals .... imagination is better

This thread has certainly found indications of the use of advanced tech by ancient civilizations .... But don't imagine the people as a whole understood this tech or reaped the beniefits of it ... They were slaves , as we are now , only now the slavery is less overt , still , nearly all of us have to work 9 to 5 to feed ourselves and keep a roof over our heads . As the scriptures reveal the (ET) "gods" taught humanity how to use grains , wheat and barley , these are GRASS SEEDS! an inferior food source that needs an enourmouse amount of work to produce enough to keep the body alive ... this was the first step at institutionalising slavery .... slavery to toiling on the land .. Can't have people eating dates and bananas and coconuts ,they grow themselves ... In Egypt cultivation is dependent on the flooding of the Nile so certain months people would have nothing to do .... Idle people may have time to plot rebelion , so at these times they were all pressganged into building monumants to the glory of the rulers ... this wasn't a choice , people were forced. The ET's and their Pharoh hybrid bloodline naturally wanted these monuments to be the best and so the ET's did permit limited use of advanced tech. When the ET's compleatly withdrew from society they wanted to hide their past involvement , so naturally took the high tech machinery with them.

When this tragedy is examined carefully we find a host of unrelated events which all conspired to bring it about and make the loss of life much greater than was necessary... The number of life boats was only sufficient for half the pasengers on board , and only a third if it had a full compliment of passengers ... a gross 'oversight ... Even so they had two and a half hours to fill the lifeboats which could have contained everyone at a tight squeeze , but the crew had never been trained in evacuation , were first of all complacent and incompitent , then later paniced and many lifeboats were lowered half full , remember they had two and a half hours to do this , something that should take 15 mins or 30 at most . The ship had 21 massive steel water tight doors to seal off compartments to prevent the posibility of sinking this is why she was called "UNSINKABLE'" ... but the Captain decided not to close them...... till the last minute when it was too late ! The SS California was only a few miles from the titanic and radioed her before the impact warning of iceburgs .... After the impact crew on the California saw distress flares from Titanic but FAILED TO ACT!!! I've only listed a few of the "unlucky coincidences" that brought about this sinking and led to an unessesarily high death tole .. How can it be explained ? The Captain was in overallcharge and made all the fatal decisions , but he went down with the ship! ...Did the Rothschilds say ...."Hey Captain Smith we have a special job for you , smash the Titanic into an iceburge and don't close the the watertight bulkheads" .... "no problem Mr R ..sir ... I'll do it and go down with the ship ". An explanation for this incident came up in one of Karl Mollisons channelings ... the ET aliance engineer these sort of calamities all the time , they are psycic , can get into peoples heads , they mentally influenced the designers not to put enough lifeboats on board , they mentaly influenced the captain to be complacent ... they mentally influenced the crew of the Titanic to panic , and the crew of the SS California to ignore distress flares from the Titanic. They are very advanced beings in all ways except morraly , our world is their computer game , the aim is to restrict progress , cause death and destruction and deshearten humanity. The ET's will probably have let their operatives on the ground(illuminati) know this was going to happen so they could get rid of troublesome people and take advantage in other ways .

Important to acknowledge that all their diabolical plans always seem to come to nothing .... 9/11 was the Lie that FAILED to change the world , to paraphrase the title of one of DI's books .... They had preship tens of millions or military age muslim young men into Europe in preparation for this event ... They hoped that when the US invaded Iraq they would rise up and riot , cause a civil war in Europe .. but it all came to nothing .. AIDs I can hardly remember that ... And Covid ..... WHO yesterday declared that is all over https://www.bbc.com/news/health-65499929 so no more vacine pasports , Bill Gates had plans to tatto us all with flourescent die to show we've taken our jabs , but that will never happen now ... Who's the spider at the centre? I think a better analogy is who's at the top of the pyramid ? One Dollar Bill All we can see is an eye ... the eye can see us but we can't see who's looking at us ... it could be human , DI says it's not human .. Reptilian This is how DI would answer that question , the video is terribly rambling , but not too long .

Very cheap to live ... Visa could be a problem ... I get retirement visa , renew each year , must be over 55 and show 20,000 pounds in bank acc. I've never had inoculations , niether have most westerners here . WHO anounced yesterday covid is over so the requiements for entry covid jab proof may soon be waived. Realistically you will need a big wad of cash to move out here . the westerners I know living here have to keep returning to UK to work , then come back .. I have a basic life style and spend about 500 pounds a month , but have no rent of electricity or water costs .

Certainly .. But they are in alignment with creators Will ... which is that they should not interfer or get involved in any way ... My understanding is that this is a test of humanity. to see if we have the ability to over come evil which is present here in the form of a coalition of 3 very advanced ET groups .. they control us by mind control , psycic and more recently electronic via the 5G grid .... It seems an imposible and hopeless task since humanity is mindcontrolled to believe they don't even exist ! Mindcontrolled to trust and believe the government ! Even if humanity was aware of what's going on , there is no way we can overcome their technology! The only thing which has prevented humanity from being destroyed so far is the Prayers sent out for help .... The few who still believe in God can ask for divine intervention and under the rules that exist this allows God to help in proportion to how many ask. So in this free will game we can ask for assistance. If we don't believe in God or don't ask then that free will choice must be honoured ... The ET's have been playing with us for thousands of years , and have noticed that when people come together and Pray then their plans for our destruction are inexplicably thwarted .. They don't believe in God and put this down to some unknown mental power humans have ... They understand that to destroy us they have to get a willing consent to partnership with them ... If we willingly agree for them to control us then creator has to stand back and honour that choice .... And so the ET's "Plan A " is underway which is to convince humanity we cannot manage our world ... global warming ... desease ... wars .. economiic colapse .. then they arrive openly in craft offering assistance to all our problems with their advanced tech , but to end all wars they need to supervise things , take governance of the Earth , a New World Order of free energy and space travell , freedom from illness and poverty . It will be hard for humanity to resist this offer . If we accept , it wil end in our complete destruction.

Note how faint the trail is , and more imortantly the gap in the trail ... this suggests it is a condensation trail ,contrail , and where the atmosphere is slightly dryer it will evaporate .. A cem trail made of particulates would never have a gap .... I remember 10 or 20 years ago the skys looked like this (in certain areas) and youtube was full of videos of it ... I still maintain this was an attempt to starve us all by killing crops with reduced light , it had very limited effect and so they decided to abandon the idea ... It's a lot of work for them , and the public might slowly start to notice and ask questions if the skys always looked like the above picture ... and if it wasn't working anyway .....

Has Chemtrailing ended? My attention was drawn to this thread ... Chemtrailing I thought ... Isn't that finnished ? Always having an open mind I watched the above video ... She talks about 2002 ... what was happing in 2004 and 2006 , searching her picture they all show her older than in this video ... further seaching shows Rosaline died over 5 years ago. I would guess the video was made perhaps 15 years ago when chemtrailing was full blast. It is an excelent video and asserts the main purpose was to block the sunlight , she seems to swallow the official story that this was to stop global warming but in all likelyhood it was to see if they could destroy crops on a large scale, But I guess they realised this wasn't feasable and so have stopped it all ... I could be wrong ..... but show me current videos of chemtrails

I would say we all have to take effective action ,understanding the truth tells you What action , I believe this is mainly Prayer ... believe in God and calling on Him to heal the malevolent ET's so they move on ... The rules of this free will reality dictate we have to invite His help or it will not come ... My understanding is we all ascend together , or if the darkness wins the ascention doesn't take place and a reset is posible and we start again . I've no idea what DI means by that ... should we take drugs like Ayahuasca? ... or learn more about conspyracy to understand the truth about the world ? He really should spell out exactly what actions he thinks we need to take to "expand our perception". Yes , I'm in a remote location , see very few people , waiting for the rains to come , the Durian trees are thirsty .( income from durian and mangoteen and oil palm)

Ah Yes .... Mc Kinnon ... In a way this relates to the video I posted above . Although the SSP is mainly off world there will be records of it in the pentagon, lists of craft and personell , and Mc Kinnon claimed to have hacked into pentagon computers and found among other things lists of craft which were not known to be on Earth (not aircraft carriers, submarines , etc) and records of many personel. Strangely the pentagon did abmit he had hacked them (in hindsight I bet they wished they'd ignored it all) , and were desperate to get him extradited from the UK to serve a long prison sentence... Mc Kinnon played the sypathy card claiming to be autistic and not a real threat , UK authorities seized his comuter and interviewed him (2002) , but after a lot of back and forth between US and UK governments his extradition was not granted and he is alive and well and on the projectavalon forum , although doesn't have much of interest to say. So it's not so much my opinion , the pentagon clumsily endorsed what he was saying , that there is evidence of an SSP . Although if you look at the Wikipedia page on him it spins the episode and little talk of the SSP , just vauge references to UFO craft etc. Why wouldn't the UK exdradite him? Perhaps the Pentagon finally realised they'd missplayed the who afair and to put him on trail would just bring more attention to it all , so secretly told UK not to grant extradition.

I do believe this issue has been well settled . Not that the elite entered into an alliance with ET's or deamons , but that they were put into power and are kept in power by secret help from these ET's ... this goes back 50 years to Von daniken , zechariah sitchin and other scholars , their meticulous research revealed that they have always been here enslaving us ... David Icke explored their work and agreed with it all (see the 'Biggest Secret') and he went furthur and asserted that around 5, 000 years ago they decided to go undercover , withdraw from public view , but control humanity through a hybrid alien bloodline of theirs .. these are the illuminati , very few in number and they are mostly unknown to the public (except the royals) .. they control the politicians and others we see. ... Now days DI seems unclear wether these are ET's (travell in UFO type craft) or deamons ... this is due to the reptilians ability to materialise out of thin air , but then that's what captain kirk can do and he is physical ... these are very technologically advanced creatures and can beam right into your bed room and abduct you! But they are physical eat flesh , human flesh! This is all confirmed by dozens whistleblowers from the secret space program ... these reptilians are working with the US government and fooling them into an aliance (just as they did with hitler) ... they have built up a space army with over a million humans taken from Earth . The US government is told this is to help protect Earth from malevolent ET's ... in reality the reps control it completly through mind control , and plan to use it to attack Earth .... Here's the story of a US Army recruit who was noticed for his above adverage abilities and invited to join this Secret Space Program. It's a long story , this is just part 1.

Yes ... I agree with all that , T .... and you have a clear understanding that divide and conquer is a prime strategy ... in politics , race , LGBT , it's about dividing the public into camps and hopefully getting them fighting .... But it's not humans that are behind this all .... Humans don't get around a table and conciously plan these diabolical plans ... there are only a very very few ( the illuminati) who are in on the secret and they are in mansions with their feet up .... The people on the ground implimenting these plans are mindinfluenced to believe it all. I don't agree with DI on everything , but he does get that implimenting this agenda is an off world inteligence.

Hi Born Free ... I've read your post very carefully ... the word Spiritual and spiritual work comes up many times so perhaps first we should explore what we/you mean by this .. to get an idea I searched 'Coffe and Spirituality' ... you said you went to a meeting with that billing , what sort of people would be expected to attend such a meeting? My search turned up nothing except some links suggesting coffe {and alchol} were inimical to the spiritual path. LOL I guess the person organising this group would be someone promoting their own spiritual doctrine , a Christian , or Hari Krishna , and they just tacked on coffe to get people to come. I used to think spiritual work was sitting in the lotus , stilling the mind , doing yoga , of which I've done a lot ... I now think it's just expressing love in all you do .. Nothing else matters too much , not even taking the jab or not ..... Those who are weary of jabs do have a truer understanding of the state of the world. They understand government does not have your interests at heart ..... but as it turned out 99.999% who did take the jab are still alive and kicking. This world is a tough place .. we all voluntered to come here to take on the problem of evil which has got a grip here. If we are succesful we all ascend to a realm with greater freedoms and posibilities. The only way to win is to call on Divine intervention to heal the perpetrators .

Look at the expression on Charle's face and the above one top right from Mr Crabtree It's Charles's defalt look. Is it a happy one? What does that look say ? It says " Please don't torture me anymore , I'll be good , I'll do what you say". He was brought up in an illuminati family and WILL have been subjected to satanic ritual abuse and torture at a young age ... this is standard upbringing to try to turn them into depraved heartless people ... Sent to public school away from family and subjectect to their severe regime from a young age . A mother incapable of love who shakes hands with her son after not seeing him for a long period ... Queen Elizabeth news: How the Queen 'humiliated' young Prince Charles at public event THE Queen snubbed her infant son Prince Charles in public after failing to form a mother-child relationship, a documentary has claimed. https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1046123/royal-snub-queen-elizabeth-prince-charles-humiliated-handshake-spt So don't feel animosity towards Charles , he's trapped in a nightmare and been subjected to an upbringing that reptilians imposose on their children.

Here it is alexa .... https://youtu.be/jPeHDihuzco This is the Youtube version , only the first 45mins .. for the full 2 hrs you have to go to their main site where all the videos are , you have to sign up , but there's no charge.

They have always been here playing god ... See the research of Von daniken , Zecharia Sitchin and many others who revealed this all 50 years ago ... David Icke explored the work of these researchers and concluded it was all true. They enslaved humanity and got them to mine gold ... These are very technologically advanced ET's and could have used machines to get the gold , but are DEPRAVED and get enjoyment from beating humans to exaustion to mine gold. ... The Annunaki bred with Earth women , some produced were giants and they used these to be slave masters .... others hybrids could pass as human so they set these up as pharoes and kings , which exist to this day as the illuminati ... a bloodline that recieves secret support from the ET's and rules us . This alowed the ET's to withdraw from the scene and rule us covertly .. this prevents mass resistance. There is understandable confusion about who these ET's are , Sometimes depicted as giants , these are the Annunaki Sometimes as reptilians The reality is the enslaving 'gods' are a coalition of three different ET groups . The dominant ones are the Annunaki(twice our size) , then the reps , then the Arcturians (can pass for humans) .. there are also the Greys these are not a true species and don't have a soul as the others do , the greys are a genetic creation of the Arcturians , they are 'worker bees' here in the greatest number (millions) and do mundane work like abductions . So all these creatures are the most evil imaginable and delight in causing suffering , torturing children ... they play humanity like a compurer game , there is no reasoning with them, no overcoming their advanced tech and mind control capabilities ..... Except by calling on Divine assistance , Pray to God these creatures are healed and depart from the Earth.

I've been exploring this subject most of my life ... It first started at the age of 16 . I had an older sister , and her boyriend worked in a printer who duplicated the BUFORA news pamflet ... He knew I had a scrapbook on the Apollo space program , and I guess he thought I would be interested , and every new edition he printed , he would give me a copy .... Since then I have explored every aspect of this subject , (as well as occult and conspyracy )... I could list hundreds of valuable sources from Bob Lazar , Al Bieliek , Tony Rodrigues , Correy Goode , Simon Parkes .... exploring them all deeply , sifting out where the truth may be and what is disinfo/missunderstanding ... So after 50 years at this I felt confident I had a fairly good understanding .... Then I discovered the work of Karl Mollison , he confirmed most of what I believed , but more importantly filled in all the missing gaps , adressed all the nagging inconsistancies in my world view .... He does claim to channel GOD ! , and I am convinced he does , simply because of the veracity of the material .... So new people coming to this subject don't have to do things the long hard way , just explore his work! https://www.youtube.com/@getwisdom7028/videos Well tell us what that is , I'm always willing to learn.

So the Coronation looms ever nearer (thank God I'm out of the UK) I recently had cause to post here Mollisons channeling of Queen Victoria and took the opportunity to listen to it again ... There is explained why the malevolent ET's who control us , relish the Monarch system .... It is because their societies are run on similar lines . A hierachical system of rewards and punishments coming from on high , a leader that no one elected , there by virtue of heritage and power. The Monarchy system the UK has today is much watered down because the public would not put up with things run as they were 500years ago when the Monarch could torture or behead oponents at will and start war on a whim . These Monarchs would always be rep shapeshifters because they love blood and carnage and to lead an army of stupid humans to be hacked apart in battle is a big joke to them when the soldiers have no idea that their leader is not human. It's unclear whether Charles has been killed and replaced by a rep .... the role of king is mostly ceremonial now , no (overt) torture or wars , so the atraction and reason for replacing him must mostly have gone ... But a rep will love the simpering fielty the king will recieve from adoring public , and there is always the posibility of unseem influence over political policy. The channeling also says there is mindcontrol of the public via the 5G network, to influence them to see the Monarchy as a worthy institution ,essentialy British , patriotic to support , good for tourism, and harmless ,