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  1. Nothing would surprise . That said there were many bomb threats and incendiary devices. The IRA gave coded warnings and stated clearly they didn't want to harm people just disrupt financial centres. I've just read the wiki page for 1996 and it states there was 90 minutes given. Ample time to evacuate from that area. Also. As I said the people injured were mainly in the Royal building. I do know one of them it is their story if they wish to share it but the part where I shared that the police simply 'forgot' to evacuate them was very common knowledge. Don't forget we were all very very used to bomb hoaxes by this point, which might explain why they stayed put. Also they stayed put under police advice. They said there was a very eery quiet that descended before the bomb went off. As even the policeman positioned outside their building evacuated. This police man had spoken to them and told them to stay put. This building was right behind the airbridge- right next to the van with the bomb. It seems utterly implausible that said policeman would simply forget all the people in the office working.
  2. Thanks for this. I'm a mank and I never knew about that freemason element . It seems Mancunians are particularly susceptible to being used as sacrifices for masons. The Salford pals regiment were sacrificed as cannon fodder on the first day of the Somme . Im sure other areas were too. But Manchester does seem to bear the brunt.
  3. Yes the 1992 bombs.when 2 went off (They coded through 4) . Not physically harmed. But experiencing that plus spending a whole day with army controlled robots blowing up bins and packages and not knowing if the next two bombs would detonate or where. Stays with you. The second two bombs it turned out was a lie. I was on the bus coming into work when the first one went off. I came into reception to find people with glass shards and blood on them as they evacuated from our sister office that was in the path of the first bomb . The second bomb went off (from memory) around 10 / 10.30 and was more powerful. That's the one whose shock waves we all felt. By this time we knew it was a verified coded IRA bomb campaign (apparently) .Our building was designated a safe zone and we were sealed in by the army and not allowed to evacuate. More people got injured in the second bomb as they had evacuated to go home and that bomb was on their route . This is why you now have two different evacuation plans from offices ..One for fire and one for terrorism. Before these 2 bombs you just a rocked up outside like a fire drill. 1996 was far far bigger. And credit where it's due the IRA gave warning so people could escape before it detonated. The police forgot to evacuate the people in the Royal building who were in doing Saturday overtime and that's where a lot of injuries occurred. Some very serious. How no one was killed I'll never know. One bloke was flattened by the lift doors blowing out. Don't know if that's in the official narrative. The arena bomb sounds smaller and packed with nails nuts and bolts and doesn't surprise me that it killed randomly but would have sounded smaller as a bang. Also don't underestimate the adrenaline that courses so even if you're injured you get away from the source if you possibly can.Not watched this yet though am just giving a first hand experience of what it can be like. And still most Londoners only remember st Mary Axe ( Pre 7/7) Oh...and..having been designated a safe zone the well oiled machine that is the British army realised at about 3pm they'd forgotten to check all the parked cars at the back of our office. That was a fun 30 minutes. As we huddled together As far from the curtain glazing as possible hoping they didn't accidentally blow us up.
  4. Yes. This has been bothering me. I'm mank by birth (don't live there now but family does). Immediately after the bomb mum sends me a bee lapel badge.and everyone is getting bee tattoos? Had to look up why...Yes there were bees on bins and council stuff but it ( the bee symbol) wasn't a 'thing' not before this. Any other Manks here? I've not lived there for 20 years so I'm out of the loop a bit. We didn't all rock up with bee tats after the IRA bombs. We just enjoyed the new Traffy centre and said they'd done us a favour bombing the Arndale. :-)
  5. I'm so bloody thick sometimes. Completely get why they are doing this (removing the layers of DNA history) now having pondered it. When they do your DNA history they give you lovely little back stories of the areas you test for. They also tell you that people with your DNA live here and show you a map. What are they going to do? Show that 90% of Israelis have caucasus blood? I'm going to have a dig around on this and send it to David with my genetic stuff if it turns out to be a 'thing.' It might just be that ancestry DNA is just shit. That's the other possibility.
  6. It's why two people standing together in a bomb could be shredded or have no injury at all. It is the strangest weirdest feeling.
  7. Won't do ! And was just trying to explain how weird bomb shock waves behave from a first hand experience before I watch x
  8. Looking forward to watching this. I know there are UK military connections with the bombers dad. I am a mancunian by birth and experienced two IRA bombs first hand . One thing we learned was shock waves from bombs don't exhibit how you would think. They bounce along surfaces (including humans) then miss gaps and reappear. For example in the 1996 IRA bombs it bounced off buildings - shattered a couple of windows on st Anne's square but destroyed the Marks and Spencer building. The Royal insurance building and didn't touch the 16th century shambles pubs. These bombs rip through you and you are never the same. You hear the sound, then the force of the blast hits you, then what they dont report is it then sucks back into the vacuum created by the blast. All those shock waves going through your body. Bad times. Those poor children. No excuses for people who do this. But I'm biased.
  9. 35 minutes warning to ' clappy' time. Remember the supermarkets will be empty as they're all home banging pans:-)
  10. Mr kj watched that with me and chuckled and said 'I like David Icke ' .
  11. kj35

    Hello

    ok, now I'm really cracking up. :-)
  12. kj35

    Hello

    damn that likes restriction ?
  13. it's the ones who start a controversial topic that they know will inflame, then stand back and encourage the carnage. They worry me. Not people have a genuine heated debate or complete butt heads on a topic. That's what we are here for I believe. I've learned tons for example from member @Truthspoon yet when I first came here I derailed one of his threads completely ( I didn't know that that was what that was called or indeed what I was doing). I messaged both him and a mod and apologised and we had a good chat and I learnt from it. Doesn't mean I believe everything TS says - in fact just before the last forum went down we had another "disagreement" over Egyptian artifacts and Christian scriptures, but he challenges my thinking and I certainly understand a lot more about of his main topics of interests now which are completely different to mine. So that's not what I meant. Sorry if I confused Fluke. It's easy done here when it is just written words. The Zoom facility on the new forum sounds interesting.
  14. well said. completely agree. the longer you are here the easier it is to spot who is genuine, and you know when a member is honest it does become obvious just over the time of their posts. I've been told of a few times and 90 % (ok 99.99%) of the time whoever it was was right to call me out and I learnt from it. If we all agreed here as our new member is currently pointing out , what a dull place it would be :-)
  15. kj35

    Paranoia

    ^ am out of likes :-) that's lovely to hear
  16. and some I just play with, for fun. Which means I am going to hell I suspect
  17. @TrueSon There are still the odd ones here. But we are all wising up to them. Some are obvious. Some pretend to be informed then you see them lead threads astray or into "controversial" areas (there is definitely one here doing that although not for the last few hours) I can see other members see through it, its days are numbered. Some like lighting the blue touch paper and standing back in threads. My recent favourite one whose script clearly read "naïve little girl" "you've hurt my feelings" when it was nothing of the sort. But that's why we have mods. just report the post - I've reported the current member I suspect and I may be wrong, I'm not infallible they might just be another member who rubs me up the wrong way. And I don't like reporting it feels like "grassing up" so that's part of my learning. I liked it on the old new forum where the mods started sharing some of the known tactics so we can see how they work. If in doubt I'm usually led by ego display that's my barometer for troll , shill, truly awake or not. And I know other people must have thought the same about me when I am a nob, which happens. that's ok Ego is hard to crush.
  18. kj35

    Paranoia

    now I really want to look them up, gosh darn it , you got me!
  19. kj35

    Paranoia

    now why would I need to do that? I'm sorry I'm confused now.
  20. kj35

    Paranoia

    sorry, didn't mean to offend. You have properly cheered me up. It's good to see new input. I was seriously wondering why we bother and whether it was worth recreating all the hours of information we lost. But new people such as yourself should have access to it. thank you :-)
  21. kj35

    Paranoia

    we needed a little chivvy
  22. kj35

    Paranoia

    wouldn't dream of it. it's nice to have you. you're right, we were all getting a bit bored and battle weary.
  23. kj35

    Paranoia

    anyway welcome, it's good to have you here :-)
  24. kj35

    Paranoia

    you're livening it up though! They've had to do that it isn't ideal I agree. but when you have literally megabytes of information stolen by hackers, people tend to get a bit, shall we say, careful?. Paranoid would be worried, preoccupied or fearful...I think they are none of those things. Just not stupid.
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