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  1. So, to summarise. The video showing a camera full zoom to the horizon, with one ship on the horizon/close and the other way beyond it and 90% obscured by the horizon, is in fact a big trick of light and actually a mirage. Is that what you are saying? And you did screen shots "showing" this because you said you did, when in fact you just drew some lines. Is it any wonder that this ridiculous subject never gets resolved! This is absurd denial of the totally obvious. The Sun proves the planet. It travels the same speed, covers the same angle in the same time, no matter where it is viewed from and at any elevation. It never changes size.
  2. Your video just explains how very short of reality they are. The rays are crepuscular and very far away. They converge like that to a vanishing point, just like a railway line. Now tell me this, if the Sun is 100 miles above the surface, it still must be 100 miles above the surface on the point it is magically disappearing at. And every point until it reaches the end of the Earth. How the hell does it set? Have a look at that simple diagram, what is that 350 miles away, still the same size? Still above eyeline. How does it disappear, at what distance?
  3. Please explain to me why you think the flat Earth businessman is 100% accurate in his reporting. I watched the whole video. I didn't say it was skipping in this case but it can explain numerous other videos. The laser will curve with air density, just like light. Which part of that confuses you? Hey, you seem to have missed a whole lot of my post out, that would be the bits you don't want to answer? Give me your views on the Minnewanka experiment, explain this. How far away is the Sun?
  4. No, it's reaffirming that 90% of the boat is over the horizon. Gone, not visible, occluded. There's no mirage in play. The bottom of the visible boat is aligned with the water, the top of the far boat has no distortion. Are you blind? Of course it doesn't. It's beyond the horizon, it's not visible. The camera has zoomed in and we see the boat is gone. He did zoom. The boat is beyond the horizon. If you are playing some sort of game here, it isn't funny. This is absurd. The water is the same colour, consistency and level. The far boat is not suffering some magical flat earth mirage, it has sailed over the horizon. The dark greeny sea stretches to the horizon and then suddenly....................................it's the bloody horizon and the ship beyond it is not visible. That isn't even water. That is the foreground and heat is causing inverted reflections to appear. In terms of mirages at sea, this sometimes distorts the object, raises it in mid air or blurs it. What it doesn;t do is make the damn thing disappear. You're busted. The boat is over the horizon. Question: Flat earth claimants often refer to the 'Flat Earth Model'. Can anyone categorically tell me how far away the Sun is? Can you tell me your comments on the Minnewanka curvature video previous page @Jikwanmade a silly laugh comment at it, but failed to address it. Seems to be a total game over observation. Nobody replied to this, yet it is another game over observation. Go to an online 90 degree triangle calculator. Put in distance across the Earth 12,500 miles. When it must be 5000 miles above part of the Earth the absolute lowest elevation the Sun can achieve is as stated - 21.8 degrees. Anyone care to comment on this?
  5. Do you deliberately reply in short sentences to stop responses? It's a link bait picture. There was variance in pressure, but of course the Flat Earth businessmen didn't report this. The height of the laser is not even relevant. It can either arrive at its destination by skipping off the surface or hugging it from pressure variances. It is so simple, but sadly not you or any flat earther will ever acknowledge it. What is a "globe head"? Sounds like an insult. Now tell me how far away is the Sun?
  6. Perspective. I notice you completely ignored my post about how far the Sun is, so how close do those rays put it? Explain this. How does the Sun above the eyeline, dip below the horizon? Same size same speed wherever it is on the planet.
  7. You seriously misunderstood my question. You cannot see the bottom half of the buildings. The parts at the topyou can see are visible due to light refraction, it varies according to heat and local pressure. One thing though, you never see the bottom of the buildings. Now I ask again where is it?
  8. Question: Flat earth claimants often refer to the 'Flat Earth Model'. Can anyone categorically tell me how far away the Sun is? Nobody replied to this, yet it is another game over observation. Go to an online 90 degree triangle calculator. Put in distance across the Earth 12,500 miles. When it must be 5000 miles above part of the Earth the absolute lowest elevation the Sun can achieve is as stated - 21.8 degrees. Anyone care to comment on this?
  9. What do flat earthers say is the reason why you can't see the bottom of the city?
  10. The obvious conclusion from what? The solution if you are referring to the video, is that the two listed reasons are how a laser can get across big distances. I did watch it all. I said this - Which part do you want addressing? Yes and of course the way light bends with varying density is exactly how this works. Why do you keep denying refraction? Ignore the screenshot it is not deceiving though. Sugar alters the density of the water by depth. Refraction through a liquid is not a dismissal for refraction through air. The only difference is the distance at which it curves. I do find it significant that even when presented with video showing how variable density bends a laser, you still stick to your claim that the laser is travelling dead straight. Incorrect. The one environmental factor deliberately and always ignored by flat Earth businessmen is the way light will bend from variable heat and density. To be honest? It seems the opposite to dismiss obvious evidence that demonstrates how density affects laser light. Can you tell me your comments on the Minnewanka curvature video just above @Jikwanmade a silly laugh comment at it, but failed to address it. Seems to be a total game over observation. Can any flat earth claimant also address the post above showing the zooming lens picking up a ship obviously over the curve.
  11. Which part do you want addressing? Because almost immediately they give the most obvious solution, the laser skips off the surface. In their example they pointed the laser down significantly enough to make it obvious, but if it just aims at the horizon, it won't be visible where it skips off the water. Dead sample. The other very simple explanation was covered in a video posted a couple of months back where it was demonstrated that a laser will gently curve with air density, just like light. There is no magic properties associated with lasers compared to normal light in terms of it being deviated by a denser medium. The video can be found here - In terms of curvature at sea level. By eye, your eye scans only a narrow band and the brain assembles the image. With a camera an SLR with angle of 45 degrees you have a distance to horizon at 2m high equal to 3.2 miles. The span of view distance for 45 degrees is 2 times the edge of a 90 degree triangle 3.2 on longest side and angle A 22.5 degrees. That gives short side of 1.33 miles - so a span of 2.66 miles for the image taken. At 8 inches x miles squared - that is 8 x 7 inches - 4ft 8 inches drop across your SLR 45 degree image. So basically you have a visual distance of 2.66 miles with a variance between them of 4ft 8 inches. Tell me why you would be able to detect any curvature on that image?
  12. It's 28 minutes long, but if you just watch from 3 minutes to 5 minutes, it's more than enough. Can anyone who thinks the planet is flat explain this?
  13. What? Christians reject reincarnation, particularly the bible. What does the Bible say about reincarnation? | Bible.org
  14. @Grumpy OwlI found this, which was quite interesting - The Hippies Were Right: It's All about Vibrations, Man! - Scientific American Blog Network I particularly liked this paragraph: "An interesting phenomenon occurs when different vibrating things/processes come into proximity: they will often start, after a little time, to vibrate together at the same frequency. They “sync up,” sometimes in ways that can seem mysterious. This is described today as the phenomenon of spontaneous self-organization." It goes into detail further below and it all makes a crazy kind of sense - I've long ago known about the atmosphere in a room, where you get this feeling of a whole variety of emotions just picking up from the people. What I would like to see is the idea about how it all hangs together scientifically analysed and shown in extensive detail. For left-brain thinkers which I believe I am dominant, it would be a great way to spread such information. I am still not seeing details about specific frequencies etc., their effects or how they are detected and correlated. I am sourcing out some publications from Pascal Fries because he seems to be doing work in this field - but many of his articles cost money to view.
  15. I have read up to the 911 one. My fave was Robot's Rebellion - fantastic destruction of religion. I never saw a concise explanation of this.
  16. It's also related to patterns. Plus you have now mentally made a note of it so will automatically notice it more. I remember a while back when people started commenting on phantom planets and I started spending more time looking at the night skies and suddenly seeing things that I had never noticed before, that were always there.
  17. It was sub-orbital from reading the mission brief, so you won't see the whole of the Earth. "I love it. I love it!": Wally Funk makes history during Blue Origin's launch to space - CBS News "For Funk, the countdown to this day lasted 60 years. She said Tuesday's trip to space was fantastic. "I love it. I love it!" she said as she floated in zero gravity."
  18. I never could understand what people meant about raising vibrations. Vibrations of what - can you explain this to me?
  19. The Daily Star is the equivalent of somebody writing on the wall of a toilet. The Moon has always done this and it is nothing at all - a small variance in tides.
  20. Google and Yahoo are heavily restrictive. Try this one - Yandex
  21. Makes one wonder how easy it is to misuse sound as well as it is to heal with it.
  22. Straight away into anyone's psyche - "child sex" offences. Now I'm all for extremely hefty deterrents on this, even as far as both balls squished in a vice! But, and here is the big but. If they are definitely guilty. They "cannot be identified for legal reasons" is the tagline. So what actually goes down here? Firstly the police arrest somebody and "to protect their anonymity" the police give his profession and age only. ONLY?? Premier league aged 31. That creates an exclusive list of around 25 players. Suddenly social media lights up with this very thing and a whole host of nutters start posting fake news about who it is. Then, and can anyone actually believe how dumb this is - Everton FC admit it is their first team player and he has been suspended. Suddenly the list is down to 2 players! One player gets the opening flak, followed by the other. Icelandic newspapers post "the scoop" and we are down to 1 player getting hammered on youtube, facebook, twitter, tiktok - almost guaranteed never to be removed. Google it, I'm not putting his name up. Reality: whatever way you look at this he's stuck with this forever regardless of whether he has done anything. This is dead clumsy from the police and the bullshit that follows is the internet and social media striking yet again. Everton players want team-mate arrested over suspected child sex offences to be named - Mirror Online The police haven't even completed their investigations - but the online clowns have reached their verdict. Sarcastic applause,
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