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Uniparty's economy is not good.
Fixed that :)
The media still wants us to believe that the confectionery they serve us (Biden; Trump etc) in some way represents separate entities. We're still in the same presidency as we were a hundred years ago. The faces change, but the kid-fucking-kompromat machine always pushes the same type of actors to the forefront.
People are struggling to accept the inevitable: Centralized power always genocides; if it did not, it could not centralize.
Creating the notion of, and 'electing', 'presidents' is a guaranteed way to ensuring enslavement.
Single-point of failure is always bad structural-engineering. No matter what.
Just like Coke and Pepsi are owned by the same people, so is the Uniparty (red/blue team). There is no Biden economy. There is probably no Biden; in the sense of a coherent, identifiable person.
Given the contortions of fiat currency, there is probably no economy either; technically. Just the mirage of it.
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The Freemasons (pedophile ring) know what is coming downstream. Namely, their structural collapse.
Google (the CIA) have started 'helpfully' adding "context" to all Freemasonry (pedophile-ring) related searches. See my screenshots below comparing a search for 'Freemasons' vs (as a random example of another group) "Hindu".
Why do we need to be socially-programmed by Google (the CIA) regarding our opinions on the Freemasons (pedophile ring) but not on the Hindus? I think we know the answer to this puzzle...
As we know, this is the kind of thing that Google (the CIA) do when a sufficient volumes of NPCs start becoming active-players regarding certain topics. The CIA (Google) then start providing their 'god' perspective on topics with these 'context' warnings. From this we can infer a serious breach in their hull.
When Google serves you 'context' on a topic; you know the CIA (global-pedo-crime-ring) is freaked out that we might start connecting the dots. This is full panic. Additionally: try confronting Freemasons on the street, or outside their (often clearly marked) child-rape-buildings, their posture has gone from aggression, to panic. This panic has rippled up the pyramid, and Google (the CIA) is looking very nervous right now.
Google/ the CIA is now like a spluttering idiot caught in a crime and thinking enough 'context' will excuse the rape of children.
Imagine working for an 'intelligence' agency right now and knowing that most people realize you are part of a pedo-ring.
Not long to go now; not long.
Keep fighting!
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On 5/28/2023 at 4:59 AM, oz93666 said:
The Captain was the key figure in this , but he went down with the ship ! So you either have to believe he was willing to commit suicide and blacken his name ... but for What?
If the captain of the Titanic was a Freemason (for example) the kompromat they already threatened to release on him would have blackened his name further; a lifetime in jail vs "going down with the ship" which seems superficially honorable for his family etc.
It's also worth considering whether the captain of the Titanic was subjected to an early incarnation of MK-ULTRA programming. This could mean that he was not making decisions based on self-preservation, but as a mind-controlled sleeper-assassin.
This is interesting; for further reading: Was Titanic inquiry scuppered by the Freemasons? [The Telegraph]
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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
i don't think you can smear all british people like that.
The British citizenry knowingly funds the world's largest global pedophile ring (the Monarchy)
If citizens disagree, they should stop paying taxes immediately.
Enough is enough. No more excuses.
The British fund the world's largest pedophile network.
The British trade using money with pedophiles printed on it.
The British have an entire national broadcasting television company entirely predicated on child-rape; the BBC.
The British can wriggle and squirm and make excuses, but that is the plain reality of it.
They fund it; they celebrate it; they excuse it.
Difficult to hear; but then the truth is often hard to digest.
Brand is Britain, and he appears to very accurately represent the country internationally. He is an embodiment of the national character, in conglomerate.
Just as The Crown also represents Britain: looted wealth and child-rape.
So at least there is more transparency now we know who Brand really is.
The illusion of progress in the UK has been exposed.
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11 hours ago, Fluke said:
....leave [Russell Brand] alone or go to the police not some dodgy documentary.
My sweet summer child, the police ARE the pedophiles.
The idea that a survivor of childhood sexual abuse would rationally approach a British police officer and expect anything but more abuse is absurd.
The police wear the insignia of the British Crown; a pedophile ring. And the insignia of the Freemasons; a pedophile ring.
It amazes me how many people on a David Icke forum have clearly not read any of his books.
It's such a quaint notion, that someone would "go to the police" in a post-Savile world.
The entire reason Brand is experiencing Trial-by-Media is that there is no functioning legal or policing system in the UK which a survivor could otherwise use. The media is the only thing that vaguely resembles a functioning police force in the UK.
There are literally illustrations of pedophiles on the British coins and banknotes. People in the UK pay for stuff, regularly, using little bits of paper and metal with crowned pedophiles printed on them.
That kind of culture is a long way from having a real "police" force.
The healing may take fifty years or more of solid, concerted effort and resistance by the British.
Russell Brand IS British society.
Just as Savile was.
Nothing has been learned.
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10 hours ago, Fluke said:
Basically man has sex with lots of women.
That's an interesting linguistic re-framing of a man raping a child.
Typical of British society.
Clearly there is a deep psychological problem in the broader British-culture that keeps producing monsters like Brand and Savile and then retrospectively shrugging at the resultant piles of raped-children.
In a way, Brand is no more complicit that Britain per-se. The British culture seems to create pedophiles en-masse. The average British citizen worships pedophiles on television; recasts the abused children as 'women' and the rapes as 'having sex. Then the culture shrugs, and goes back to manufacturing more pedophiles.
How long can this be done without any level of basic self-awareness of how it is ruining the entire society? Endlessly, it appears.
Amazing.
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14 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
if that was the only goal here they wouldn't need to pressure media companies to demonitise him
That 'pressure' is theatrics.
If the UK government (top ranking Freemason pedo-elite) wanted to de-monitize Brand they could just de-bank him; or arrest him. He lives in UK territory. They've done it to others for less.
They want Brand to be a focus of public-fury, and they don't want it to look like they're doing nothing. The 'sternly worded letters' the government (pedo-elite) are sending to Rumble etc are designed to give the Facebook-hand-gazer demographic the impression that Brand was not himself, basically, a politician; one of them. Anything more than 'sternly worded letters' risk public-sympathy for Brand. He has to be 'neutralized' carefully, without questions being asked about who funded and enabled him.
Just as with Savile.
There is also worse that these Freemason (government) groups can do than just release kompromat.
Brand is effectively muzzled and just has to silently witness his ritual Wicker Manning.
Unless he goes totally rogue.
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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
so your theory is they are scapegoating brand to distract away from something else? But news stories never run for that long so unless they find something else equally juicy this will just blow over soon
Not as a distraction.
As a displacement. In the psychological meaning of the word.
We are, as a society, now invited to displace our subconscious, collective-furies onto Russell Brand.
Brand is likely being used as a kind of lightening-conductor to channel our collective free-floating rage at government; the covid hoax; the elite etc. We displace our rage onto Brand and off The Government.
To the 'elite', it doesn't matter how long 'we' burn Brand, just as long as we burn him very, very brightly. This way 'we' will not be inclined to storm Parliament and drag out the apex-predator pedophiles.
In summary: They may want us to Wicker-Man Russell Brand so we don't Wicker-man the King.
This doesn't mean Russell Brand is to be forgiven; but simply that it's worth bearing in mind why a mid-level pedophile is being served up to the public so readily.
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3 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:
men in the public eye who are promiscuous with women are being demonised.
Tate, Trump, Brand I’m sure there are more.These two things can be simultaneously true:
1. Men in the public eye who are promiscuous with women are being demonised.
2. Russell Brand is a predatory pedophile.
The media is clearly unfairly persecuting men who have many (consensual) partners and/or are 'masculine', 'confident' and 'assertive' in positive ways. I agree that this is done unfairly in many cases.
However, this does not automatically mean that every man the media persecute is innocent. The logic does not follow.
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19 minutes ago, themeadowlark said:
Are you saying Brand is willing letting this happen or is it out of his control but he's aware of it and he's trying now to stop it?
Out of his control.
Its a tidal-wave from what I can see.
Brand has either been thrown onto the fire by his puppet-masters.
Or an odd cluster of the legacy-media has found its soul.
Or a bit of both.
Both are fatal to Brand's image.
I don't feel that Brand has volunteered for this. Nobody bounces back from this level of meticulously-evidenced testimony.
In the end, the important thing is that Brand cannot harm any more children and adults.
Brand's "food-supply" has been cut-off now. Regardless of any "legal" outcome, society has been warned of a predator while he was still in operation. This is more than we ever got with Savile.
Already, the children of the future have won.
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5 minutes ago, Certified Green of Heart said:
That WOULD be soooo good.... that is if we could even then tell Chalk from Cheese, but how these legacy traditional media outlets could expect us to trust their approach even if that was exercized more about revealing alternative sides, it would still be in the back of our minds fairly prominently about what you call the Mast-Heads. It'd be like attempting to forgive murderiers, because lies are murder essentially.
Agreed.
I don't recommend trusting legacy media.
But if people are capable of change, and I believe they are, then there is always a chance.
Beneath the vampire-eyes of many journalists lurks the remnants of something once human yearning to be free again.
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19 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
right but it's not just the legacy media that is nuking brand. Channel 4 is part of the government. Its run out of the department of culture, media and sport which then also wrote a letter to rumble to try and get brand demonitised from that platform
This is probably their damage-control strategy.
The more Channel 4 and the UK Government can draw the spotlight onto Russell Brand (the product of corrupt power-systems), the more they draw the spotlight off those who enabled him. Namely, Channel 4; the BBC; the UK government; Freemasonic-brotherhood etc. They can also use invite the public to "thrash" Brand, as a persona/idea. This may be designed to ''safely' channel broader subconscious-societal-rage at the Covid Hoax etc away from the true seats of power.
Brand is being put in a Wicker Man.
This will be done over several months. The the 'villagers' will be invited to (metaphorically) 'burn' him to displace their unconscious fury at the government / royals etc.
This doesn't mean that Brand does not deserve it.
Freemasonry is a 'kompromat'- based ponzi-scheme. Initiates ascend through the ranks the more horrific stuff they do, and provide evidence of doing, to their lodge. As they become more puppeteered, they are granted more privilege. If they disobey, the kompromat is released.
Brand signed up for this life.
I feel that the difficult part to grasp here is this: That, yes, Russell Brand is being Wicker-Manned. He is being torched by the establishment. But Brand is the establishment. They slay their own, when necessary.
Brand was a servant of the elite. Now he is their 'victim'.
There is clearly panic in the Freemasonic system. They are eating each other now.
For those who do not know, this is a Wicker Man, from the eponymous movie of 1973:
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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
i suppose the wariness of some of us around here springs from our belief that the system is pretty wrapped up so if an arm of the system like channel 4 or a major arm of the corporate media like fox news suddenly does something we struggle to believe that what they are doing isn't in some way part of the overall conspiracy
Agreed.
However, it is plausible that Russell Brand is being thrown to the villagers because his puppet-masters know they will be at risk without an 'offering' to the furious masses.
These things can both be true:
1. The legacy media is utterly corrupt.
2. Russell Brand is a pedophile.
One does not preclude the other. The legacy media may (or may not) have a strategic reason for nuking Brand. This doesn't mean the evidence they provide to do so is false. Remember, the Freemasons are a 'kompromat' based cult.
Also: The legacy media is not like a car giant competing with a new type of car. The legacy media could become the alternative media overnight. All it would require is courage and morals.
If truth and integrity become valued commodities, then parts of the legacy-media could, theoretically, rebel out of economic necessity. The Times, for example, is not like a car-factory; it would not need to re-tool all the machines to start printing the truth.
This is, then, another possibility: That parts of what you knew as 'legacy-media" are beginning to dabble in "alternative media".
After all, the only thing that really divides these two genres of reporting is:
TRUTH (alternative) or LIES (legacy).
Either side can switch sides. Pay attention to the quality of reporting and standard of evidence, not to the masthead.
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11 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:
To emphasise that a 16 year old is a CHILD only reinforces the weird state of society/law that a 16 year old can be both a child at school yet old enough to vote, to have sex....
Perhaps. But the complex-ambiguity of the moral-conundrum you present is fortunately eliminated by Russell Brand himself, who constantly emphasized she was a child.
Russell Brand referred to the schoolchild repeatedly by his self-devised nickname of "The Child", which you would know if you would watch the documentary which you are critiquing. Not only did Brand nickname her ‘the child’ and cradle her in his arms, he also callied her his ‘baby’ and ‘like my little dolly.’
"The Child"
"My little dolly"...
Hopefully this will save you time in wrestling with the complex definition of "child".
Russell Brand has eliminated the ambiguity for you.
Even if you mystically contort the schoolchild into a "woman", we are still left with the rapes and phallic-choking-to-near-death-incident. Which is a bad-look for Brand regardless of whether some of his victims scrape across some grey-line of child/not-child in the minds of the most amoral public-spectators.
Perhaps watch the documentary?
Sigh.
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55 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:
... that excerpt reads more like really poorly written bad-sex fiction. If things like that really went on, and it sounds horrific, summarising it like that in a programme doesn't help the suspicion that something ain't right....
That was my paraphrasing, not the TV program's.
Here is a link to the source documentary which, I notice, a lot of you are struggling to actually watch.
I can't realistically continue this discussion since it now appears that everyone here arguing against the survivors' accounts has not actually watched the documentary that is the topic of this entire discussion.
Hilarious.
It's brave, I suppose; that some of you can launch so confidently into a stern-critique of a documentary you have not watched. But also indicative of a broader societal problem:
Zero attention spans.
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43 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
i don't like clicking on links that could lead anywhere
Try hovering over the link, your browser will inform you that it links to the official Channel 4 streaming site.
At this point, I think you're dealing with more than I can assist with.
I wish you well.
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47 minutes ago, Sidlittle said:
Literally took me 30 seconds scrolling through his YouTube channel videos to find a video dedicated to Epstein and Gates.
I thought someone might offer, as counter-evidence, that that solitary Russell Brand video that appears to be on the topic of Epstein.
Look more closely at that video and you will discover that its purpose is to create the impression that Bill Gates is sexually attracted to adults. No?
I've mentioned it several times now: The purpose of Russell Brand is controlled-opposition. He is The Matrix (the establishment).
YouTube refugees flood into Brand's Rumble hell-realm and he feeds them the Associated-Press-Newswire in disguise.
Gates must convince the swing-idiot-demographic that he is not a predatory pedophile. That's why the AP threw this story on the wire; and it's why Brand regurgitates it.
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1 minute ago, Macnamara said:
Did he issue threats?
Yes, he issued threats.
The entire account can be heard here.
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20 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
if he slept with a 16 year old then that would definately be shoddy but not illegal
That is not a claim that has been made. The claim is that he violently raped a 16-year-old schoolgirl who the BBC chauffeured to his house. To prevent herself from being choked-to-death, she punched Brand in the stomach. Nobody 'slept' with her and re-framing it in those terms is inaccurate.
Thank you for your second question, however, it is a good one: Why have the claims resurfaced now?
The theory that the Trial-By-Media is payback for Brand's challenge to Big Pharma doesn't make sense if the investigation into Brand was begun by the media in 2019, which is what the reporters say. This predates the entire Covid Hoax, and predates Brand saying anything on the topic of Big Pharma etc.
Secondly, the a-priori assumption here is that Brand challenges Big Pharma.
But does he?
Who is Big Pharma?
Big Pharma is merely the chemical-toxin-production arm of the global-elite. The more Brand convinces his followers that Big Pharma have genocided us, the more he deflects attention from the higher-tiers of power. Instead of marching on Buckingham Palace, or storming the Bastille, Russell Brand directs you to.... what? Stop buying shampoo and conditioner, to spite Johnson and Johnson? Or does he even do that? There is never any call to action. Other than to shrug and laugh.
Finally: How can Russell Brand challenge Big Pharma when he is plainly jabbed up to the eyeballs in Pfizer?
How did he enter the US through a major airport terminus for his Tucker Carlson interview? At the time 'vaccination' (self-poisoning) was compulsory. They were turning away global tennis stars at the time. Remember?
Russell Brand is so pumped up on mRNA modification that he's a living-satire.
A recovered alcoholic who owns a pub.
A YouTube preacher who rapes schoolgirls.
An enemy of Big Pharma who is vaxxed to the rafters.
"Stay Free".
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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
I see that there is a person saying that they slept with brand when they were 16 and he was 30-odd and if that's true then i would definately view that as very shoddy behaviour but technically it wouldn't be illegal as a 16 year old is legally able to give consent.
This keeps happening on this thread.
You must hear the survivors' testimonies because your summary(and others') is a complete mis-representation. Russell Brand raped a schoolgirl delivered from school-lessons to his home by BBC chauffeur. He nicknamed her "The Child" and would refer to her repeatedly as such. And that was only the beginning. Other survivors withdrew their accounts from the documentary before broadcast, out of fear. We only hear from a small-subset of Brand's victims.
You can listen to the survivor, and others, in full, by watching the Channel 4 documentary here. You'll need to VPN into the UK, if overseas.
Here I have paraphrased one account from the documentary:
QuoteRussell Brand's victims include a schoolgirl who was delivered, via BBC chauffeur, from her school lessons to Russell Brand's house. Here, she described how, without any consent whatsoever, Brand pushed his phallus down her throat until she was unable to breathe. Then to prevent herself from being choked to death by Brand, she had to punch Russell Brand in the stomach as hard as she could. Later, Brand ordered the schoolgirl to sit in a bathtub of water. Leaving the house, Brand demanded that the schoolgirl remain in the cold water until he returned.
Being only a CHILD, and already having been nearly choked to death by Brand's phallus, the child shivered until his return.
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21 minutes ago, Macnamara said:
the british government asked rumble to de-monitise brands channel.....why are they involved in this?
Because the British Government are terrified that this will spread up the chain-of-command.
The British Government has to appear to be acting against Russell Brand, or the 'masses' will begin to realize that Russell Brand is a media arm of the British Government The venn-diagram of British politicians and Freemasons is almost a complete overlap. Russell Brand's strings are pulled by the Freemasonic order, of which he is a Savile-grade mid-level puppet.
The British Government hope the 'villagers' will now pitchfork Russell, so that they don't pitchfork his organ-grinders: The BBC; the political-class etc.
I realize this is difficult to fathom, if coming to the topic afresh, but perhaps it is easiest to recall how Jimmy Savile was entwined with politics and the royal family. If Savile had been outed in his lifetime, the British Government would have written a strongly worded letter to the BBC to de-monetize Savile. Then the BBC would have written a letter about how it was morally unacceptable to de-monetize Savile until a proper trial had been run.
This despite the fact that YouTube and Rumble will happily de-monetize us 'normal people' at the drop of a hat. Suddenly, with Russell Brand, they mysteriously grow a sense of legal-procedure, and remember basic human-rights. You don't get human-rights from Rumble or YouTube, but Russell Brand does. You uploaded footage of a protest; Russell Brand raped children.
You're de-platformed instantly.
But Russell Brand throws YouTube and Rumble into a deep ethical and moral open-philosophization, which they broadcast in strongly-worded letters.
Suddenly YouTube and Rumble have to wrestle with 'morals'. Give me a break.
They de-platformed doctors for nothing.
Yet they hesitate and 'umm' and 'err' over an (from their perspective, alleged) pedophile with multiple survivor-testimonies.
Wow.
just wow.
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14 minutes ago, Jason57 said:
I think it's naive to "pick a side" here, so early on into the scandal.
I take your broader point, but for many of us, this is not early in the scandal. This is very late.
Many of us were onto Brand as child-rapist years ago, and some of that evidence has been raised earlier in this thread. The scandal began, approximately, when Brand began openly-trafficking victims with Jimmy Savile live on a radio show in 2007.
We are already sixteen years behind schedule on this operation.
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1 minute ago, Sidlittle said:
Thought you were trolling . Now confirmed.
If your definition of a "troll" is someone who accurately paraphrases a first-hand witness account by a survivor of childhood sexual abuse by Brand, then yes, I am the Troll of all trolls.
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16 hours ago, northern star said:
...Russell is very very late to the conspiracy party. But he spotted an opportunity and caught up, and is very popular because of it...
Is Brand even popular?
We have no idea if Brand is popular or not.
YouTube numbers are all gamed on the backend, as we've known for several years now.
Google is a CIA project. They boost numbers for those they want to appear popular, and subtract numbers from those they don't. Here's some info on how the CIA made Google
Rumble feeds repackaged mainstream-trash to YouTube refugees
Rumble is the CIA's catchment zone for Google refugees and is also a CIA project.
When you get tired of YouTube because it's all 'fake', you get funneled into Rumble, where you can watch people like Russell Brand feed you the same stories that were on CNN's YouTube channel, but now with the added-twist that the story is now being disputed (by Brand). The problem is, you are being fed the same core narratives; only in polarized form.
You're still eating trash; only now it's inverted-trash and, as you watch Russell Brand preach from behind his Chinese-child-slave manufactured Apple MacBook M1, you can feel like you're all hip and 'alternative'. When all you actually are is someone having the Associated-Press-Newswire sewage-funnel fired into your face by a child-rapist who keeps telling you to "stay free" while behind the scenes he's ramming his phallus down the throats of GCSE students (as reported by The Times, Channel 4, The Mail etc).
Russell Brand owns a Pub
Russell Brand owns a pub for the love of Zeus!
A pub.
A recovered alcoholic who own a pub.
A messiah who rapes children (as reported in all major newspapers).
Is everyone here certain -- and I mean absolutely certain -- they want to get behind Brand and cheerlead him just because he once told you that the World Health Organization were evil? Wow.
Some of You have been Gamed
Centralized video-streaming platform services like Rumble are not the solution to centralized video streaming services.
Many of you got gamed.
First by Rumble, which is the CIA's holding-pen for YouTube evacuees.
Secondly by Brand, who is a child rapist (as reported and evidenced in all major newspapers and multiple survivors).
Today it was announced that the special investigations team set up to bring-down Savile ("The Hydrant Programme") now has Russell Brand as its primary target.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
Many people on this forum should be careful who you support; your words may return to haunt you.
Also: Read David Icke's books again. You clearly missed a lot.
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Is the news media and government lying about the economy and inflation?
in Economy, Banking and the Monetary System
Posted · Edited by octoplex
Who knows? On a more general point, how do we authenticate any of this data?
We have established that the CIA / US legacy-power system is the enemy of humanity.
Mockingbird Media.
Why would they supply us any legitimate data? It's likely all false.
On the ground in North America, right now, I can see, out my window, large groups of people smoking crack openly; others are slumped comatose. This is in the downtown core. Walking down the main street here I can count literally hundreds of these ghosts with glass pipes. This is not even a big town. I think it is hard to appreciate the scale of the ground-war in North America unless you visit.
It's difficult to see and really accept.
Now, some more detail on these crackheads: Many of them are trauma survivors of the Freemasons and other groups. Essentially they are 'failed' MK-ULTRA recruits. They are self-medicating in the absence of any other support.
I speak with them regularly; one of them is all bent-over from the crack, but still has a sparkle in his eye and draws incredible sacred-geometry pictures which he sells on the sidewalk where he lives. Perhaps his addictions and life here are better than the alternative: Being a slave to the Masons and/or other groups who abuse children and create this epidemic of pain and repression.
Now, we can simply exclude this demographic from a measurement of the 'economy'; but as a visual metaphor for the stability of the power systems, and in the absence of any other credible data, it looks like a total crash has happened.
I have learned to trust my eyes.