GeoffB

So where does it exactly say in the court papers that the Judges found that any of the papers did not prove the measles virus exists? You can't tell me because it is not in there. Lanka got off on a legal technicality.

I am done with doing all the work of trawling through a very long scientific paper because you are too lazy to. You previously said that no scientific paper on SARS-CoV-2 had controls. I have proved you wrong. There are many, many SARS-CoV-2 scientific papers who all mention "mock infection controls". Some of those papers may not detail exactly what those mock infection controls are other than the well known protocols. If you want to know the exact ingredients of the substrate they used in the experiment and the mock experiment you will have to ask them if it's not mentioned in the paper. If it's the usual scientific ingredients there is nothing in there other than nutrients and antibiotics which won't have any adverse effect on the results.

The crux of Terrain Theory is that germs and viruses do not exist.

You do not understand the court papers you are referring to. The judgement was made on a legal technicality and nothing to do with viruses. Instead of blandly saying "the whole paper" what specific part of the paper did the judges say that there was any doubt that viruses exist?

I have the patience of a Saint.

You ignore my previous posts where I clearly state that lifestyles can adversely effect the immune system allowing viruses to take hold.

I can't be bothered to keep wasting my time on you.

It doesn't say what you think it says. It was a legal technicality which had nothing to do with viruses. The judges agreed in the High Court and in the Appeals Court that the measles virus exists.

Write to the real scientists who carried it out and they will tell you.

Terrain Theory is ancient history. Modern virology and gene sequencing has totally debunked it.

I have read the court document in English and it doesn't say what you think it says. Copy and paste the relevant section on here that you are referring to.

Well you've just proved you are the dumb one as I'm reliably informed by kowloon that Lanka has done the experiment to prove that viruses do not exist. However, Lanka hasn't bothered to write down the protocol for real scientists with knowledge of modern virology to rip it to shreds.

It only took me 10 seconds to find the mock-infection SARS-CoV-2 mice control paper. Here is another one, there will be loads more...... "were the most decreased genes in our analysis of SARS-CoV-2–infected lung epithelial cells compared to mock controls." https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fcvm.2020.623012/full

That is because I have never disagreed with David Icke before.

"mock-treated hACE2 mice (n = 15) were used as control." The pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 in hACE2 transgenic mice. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2312-y

The "legal technicality" was that Lanka asked for one paper and the medical student provided 6 and he was late in his submission. All the judges agreed that the measles virus exists.

Your original post contained a falsehood. You said "All these quotes come from the first papers". Those quotes do not appear in the papers themselves. A journalist called Torsten Engelbrecht asked the following question..... "We asked several study authors “Do your electron micrographs show the purified virus?”, they gave the following responses:" Their replies do not diminish the fact that the virus SARS-CoV-2 was identified. I'm not going to go through tens of thousands of scientific papers as it is totally unnecessary. Reputable scientists write their process in a paper which is for all to see. If there are any errors the papers can be asked to be retracted. None of these papers have been retracted.

One fundamental point people are missing about David Icke saying that viruses do not exist and a question I would like answered. David Icke has famously said in the past when he was talking, correctly in my view, about the Global Elites plan of control and to cull the population “Stage one you create a problem. It could be a manufactured virus”. China and Iran have accused the US of deliberately releasing the virus as a bioweapon. Someone in the future may release a virus as a bioweapon. If the Chinese and Iranian governments are right that the US released the virus as a bioweapon or someone releases a virus as a bioweapon in the future (something David Icke has predicted) how will David Icke inform the world or explain with any authority when he is saying now that “viruses do not exist”?

Virology is an exact science. Viruses existing is a provable fact. I'm quite happy to believe in abstract concepts and theories and that is why I've been following David Icke for 20 years. I'll send you a photograph of all his books I have if you like and a photo of my Wembley ticket. With all the questions I have to answer on this thread doesn't give me much time to contribute on any other thread. As I agree with 99% of what David Icke says I cannot add much to the debate as David has said it all. I am constantly backing David on other forums that are hostile to him. Pointing out David's mistake of listening to Kaufman a self confessed Natural Healing Consultant and Psychiatrist for an important subject of the existence of viruses during a "Plandemic" and a Global Elite hoax doesn't make me a gatekeeper. He has admitted the existence of viruses previously in his books and videos but now he has changed his mind that they no longer exist. If he wanted some advice on viruses he should listen instead to people like Judy Mikovits, Mike Yeadon and Andrew Wakefield.

There are literally tens of thousands of scientific papers which confirm the original findings of the very first Zhu rushed paper. Lanka has NO paper describing his fringe view and so-called experiment.

Where does Lanka get his money from? He publishes a monthly magazine, runs a website with advertising revenue, sells books and offers pills, lotions and potions all to the gullible. He can afford top lawyers to appeal a court decision where he had to cough up 100,000 euros to a lowly poor medical student who proved to the court that the measles virus exists. Lanka got off on a legal technicality. Lanka has no written verifiable proof that viruses do not exist because he knows it will be torn to shreds by people who understand viruses. Lanka is a fraud.

Modern virology is a highly complex discipline with it's own terminology. Because it is difficult to understand it is easy for charlatans to make outrageous claims which sound appealing to those who haven't researched the undisputed facts. Every claim that Lanka, Kaufman, Cowan and their proxies have made have been countered by facts. Not one scientist or medic involved in exposing the Covid scam supports the fringe view that viruses do not exist. Mike Yeadon, Judy Mikovits, Andrew Wakefied et al have nothing else to lose as their careers have already been ruined by "the system". So it's not just "system" scientists it's also scientists outside the "system" who don't agree with Lanka, Kaufman, Cowan et al. David Icke is wrong not because of my belief system but because of the indisputable facts.

Many retired medical professionals are now questioning the whole Covid narrative now they are not worried about being sacked. Many retired climate scientists are now speaking out about the whole Global Warming narrative. Not one retired scientist has questioned whether viruses exist because they know it is bunkum.

No one with an ounce of modern virology knowledge, including thousands of retired scientists with nothing to lose, believes that viruses do not exist. Even alternative scientists like Rupert Sheldrake has conventional views on Covid. Hardly any scientist bothers to counter Lanka, Kaufman and Cowan because their ideas are so ridiculous they are not worth the effort. I'm quite happy to have alternative views on any subject but when those views can be easily countered by facts and science it is time to abandon them for the bunk that they are. It's a shame that charlatans like Lanka, Kaufman and Cowan have seduced people in the alternative media like David Icke, Jon Rappaport, Mike Adams et al with their nonsense. I'm beginning to believe that Kaufman with his Svengali like influence using his psychiatrist skills and NLP has deliberately divided the alternative media and is the one who is a shill. Either that, or just like the rest of them, he is just in it to make money off of the gullible.

One small paragraph is from someone else the rest is mine. Lanka is a fraud. The Zhou paper was the very first where they were rushed to get it published as the world was facing a pandemic of unknown proportions. We have since learnt it's not much of a pandemic. Thousands of other papers have been published since showing their protocols and the results were the same as Zhou. Lanka has produced nothing.