GeoffB

As I said "Modern virology has overwhelming evidence that viruses do exist." Viruses have been proved to exist by modern virology through experiments with a living isolated single human cell infected with a virus and shown to infect a different living healthy human cell without the virus. (Modern Virologists have always known that viruses cannot be “isolated” or “purified” in the dictionary sense of the word as viruses are only evident when attached to a living cell). Mock controls are done in almost every case using the same known liquid suspension or substrate. The experiment is written up in a scientific paper for peer review. Just search the internet for “virus cell culture paper” for thousands of these papers. No paper has had to be retracted. Viruses have been proved to exist via modern electron microscopy and photographed showing the virus which is similar but different to an exosome. Just search the internet for “virus cell culture paper”, Images. Again no paper has been retracted. Viruses have been proved to exist via modern whole gene sequencing (which is the preferred method of identification) of all of the base pairs. SARS-CoV-2 and it’s variants have 29,903 base pairs which have been laboriously whole gene sequenced (it takes 4 to 5 days and NOT computer generated) and uploaded to the GISAID Initiative over 6 million times. Again no paper has been retracted. Viruses have been proved to exist via PCR tests which are highly specific and accurate in detecting a unique long gene sequence fragment of the virus you want to detect. It is not so good at diagnosing infection as the virus detected maybe dead fragments and not viable which can only be done by cell culture in a wet lab. However, the CT rate if low is an indication of infectability. (Although PCR tests are incredibly accurate it all depends on the Quality Control measures in the labs. The Lighthouse labs for mass testing in the UK have poor Quality Control and produce many “false positives”). Again no paper has been retracted. Viruses have been proved to exist in the German courts in the infamous Lanka v Bardens case where all the judges and experts agreed that the measles virus was real. (Lanka weaseled himself out of paying the 100,000euro bet by persuading the court that it was proved by “six” scientific papers and not “one” that he had asked for). There has been no scientific paper, even a pre-print or one not peer reviewed, that has ever suggested that viruses do not exist. Unlike thousands of sceptical climate scientists questioning man made global warming there has been no retired virologist or otherwise with nothing to lose in coming forward with any doubts about “viruses existing”. There have been no death bed confessions from modern virologists. There have been no scientific papers suggesting viruses do not exist. This indicates that viruses are real and do exist as has been proved by the methods already stated.

I stand proud next to Andrew Wakefield, Mike Yeadon, Judy Mikovits, Del Bigtree, David Martin etc. etc. who are all fighting against this Covid tyranny and who all know that viruses exist and can cause disease.

I have read most of David Ickes's books and have always agreed with him. Unfortunately he has dug a big hole for himself for being seduced by Kaufman and saying that "viruses do not exist". It is also a big stick for people to beat him with. I defended his reptilian entity theory but saying that "viruses do not exist" is a huge mistake. Lanka, Kaufman, Cowan, Bailey, Icke, Rappoport, Adams etc. have divided the alternative movement against this Covid tyranny with their ridiculous claim that "viruses do not exist". Modern virology has overwhelming evidence that viruses do exist.

You can't seem to get it through your tiny mind even though I have said it many times that I agree that the experimental jabs are an abomination and should be withdrawn and people need to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. However, where I differ from David Icke is that the virus is real and probably created in a lab. People like you have a knee-jerk reaction to anyone who is against this Covid scam BUT dares to point out that "the emperor has no clothes". Viruses are real and cause disease, period.

The standard of posts on this thread is getting worse.

The video of Dr David Martin in the article you linked to. Do keep up. Your ramblings are all over the place and you're coming across as confused. If you can't be more concise or have anything interesting to offer I suggest you just keep quiet.

Your exact words in your post were "not the alleged, VIRUS, which in my opinion does not exist".

I'm defending the fact that viruses exist. I agree with Dr David Martin that SARS-CoV-2 was created in a lab. You are confused if you are using Dr David Martin to prove that viruses do not exist. YouTube have deleted the video you linked to.

The truth is that there are many scientific papers showing a cell infected with SARS-CoV-2 infects a different healthy cell and inflicts cytopathic deterioration to that healthy cell. Here is an example in case you missed it. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-17796-z I am a big fan of Dr David Martin and he played a big part in the film Plandemic which showed that the virus is real. You seem to be suffering from cognitive dissonance if you are quoting Dr David Martin to prove your point.

What evidence have you seen that makes you believe the SARS-CoV-2 virus does not exist?

Your talking total bullshit. Thousands of scientific papers detail their experiments with different cells, the only necrosis is from the virus and there was NO chemical alteration as the preparation for study is immersed in nutrients and antifungals. Your delusional.

How else can the veracity of their claims be judged?

As I have said countless times Covid has been blown out of all proportion and is being used by the Global Elite to subjugate humankind. That doesn't mean I don't believe that some viruses cause disease.

There is overwhelming evidence that viruses sometimes cause disease.

Don't you want to hear the truth?