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  1. 26 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

    Just stop posting. That's all you have to do, and then never log on again. No need to delete as people will soon forget you were ever here.  It's a shame really because the last thing we need is an echo chamber where everyone is singing from the same hymn book. Alternative views are always welcome but ad hominem attacks don't really endear you to people.

    I will leave you all with this quote:

     

    There's little point in arguing with a fool, bystanders won't be able to tell the difference.

     

    How's that for "ad hominem"?

  2. 8 minutes ago, Looney tune said:

    Not through a barrel of a gun but it was a principle agreed in the break up or u.s.s.r. to go back on the principle was a mistake as it showed Russia not to trust nato. As much as they wanted to be members if you agree a deal and then break it, it's a big problem. 

    No such principle existed according to someone who should know.... Mikhail Gorbachev.

  3. 5 minutes ago, Looney tune said:

     

    So what's your feel then, obviously a couple of conspiracys have been proved right in the past. I'm not here to say I'm right your wrong or vice versa. But nato has expanded east when it said it wouldn't,  took former states in when it said it wouldn't and if memory serves me right it was only a couple of days after zelenski said he wanted the nukes program back on they rolled in. That's the non conspiracy feel. But the freemasons which those leaders are all part of work as a brotherhood together as there global meetings show. Was you on this site before? I only ask because I've only seen you recently which I suppose is just bad timing to show up saying your not interested in conspiracys on a blokes site that likes shape shifting reptilian as a thing.

    NATO hasn't expanded east through the barrel of a gun, those former Warsaw Pact/Soviet countries wanted to be members, probably because they felt threatened by the likes of Putin!

  4. 1 minute ago, Fluke said:

    Well you obviously didn't have much conviction in thise beliefs then if peoples responses have swayed your opinion this easily. A lot including myself don't know where this is going or whats behind it but i think its sensible to question what is being shown on the tvs screens. 

     

    I am genuinely interested in hearing all sides. Do you think Putin is a genuine tyrant and the world is in serious danger? 

    It's a no-brainer that he is a tyrant, look how he treats some of his own people.  He rigs elections to stay in power.  He tells other countries who they can be allies with.  He invades a neighboring country.  He orders his troops to fire missiles at civilian housing.  Do you need any more proof?

  5. 17 minutes ago, Firebird said:

     

    We have little to fear from the Russians unless we want war with them. Russia takes an interest in Ukraine for their own reasons. YOu can have an opinion on that but you can't frighten me with all this ''we need a big NATO against the Russians'' stuff.

    People said those exact same words about Germany and Adolf Hitler.  Look what happened there.

  6. 3 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

     

    Nonsense you say? Well let's see.

     

    I assume your remark about McCain was your attempt at sarcasm. I daresay that, in 2013, McCain was in Ukraine making speeches on behalf of the State of Arizona, which he represented at the time. I don't think you believe that do you? And in 2016. Why was McCain rubbing shoulders with Poroshenko along with another senior senator Linsey Graham? Of course he wasn't the president, as no American president could be seen doing those things without it being seen as an act of war by Moscow. The question you should be asking is who was McCain speaking for?

     

    What of Victoria Nuland? A senior Obama official at the time (although she was also cozy with Bush) whose meddling in the region's politics at the behest of her neocon masters was well-known. Appointed by Biden in 2021, she was a key player in getting Western arms sent to Ukraine.

     

    Countries apply to join NATO. Obama wanted Ukraine to apply. In a speech given in Estonia, Obama said "And we must reaffirm the principle that has always guided our alliance, for countries that meet our standards and that can make meaningful contributions to allied security, the door to NATO membership will remain open,"  That was music to the ears of Yatsenyuk who said "Concerning NATO, I consider the most correct decision would be to accept Ukraine as a member of NATO,"

     

    The NWO is a conspiracy is it? I can only assume that you've never read much about the subject, not listened to numerous speeches made on the subject by prominent world leaders. It's all out there if you choose to look for it.

     

    The EU is a bosses club. It has some good points but was it really ever a conglomerate of nations bound together for trading purposes? You're a damned fool if you believe that.

     

    Lastly, I have never added a laughing icon at anyone's post before. It's disrespectful but the points you have made are not thought out and betray an incredible lack of insight.

     

    You come across as being a complete know-it-all about all things conspiritorial, much like every other conspiracy theorist, yet you didn't know other NATO members were supplying arms to Ukraine.  If you're a citizen of a western country (although I reckon you're just as likely to be at a keyboard somewhere in Moscow) it is in your interests that NATO is strong, the more members it has the better.  So what if politicians canvas nations to be members... it's only a threat to despots like Putin and his supporters. 

  7. 1 hour ago, Velma said:

     

    I think you joined the wrong forum then?

     

     

     I think you are right, I have, this conflict has made me realise how deluded and idiotic some of the theories are.  You are all in denial of reality.  You all suffer from congnitive dissonance.  You have to create fantasies to help you understand what happens in the real world.  Putin is a nutcase - it's no western conspiracy.

  8. 21 minutes ago, XelNaga said:

    One can like or dislike Putin, agree or disagree with him etc., but one thing is a fact: he is the most competent and the most intelligent president in the world today. Every single US and EU president from the last couple of decades look like an imbecilic child when compared to Putin. That man is no fool, he knows what he is doing and why.

    You would be wanking over Adolf Hitler by the sound of it then if he was doing his shit today.  The man is "no fool", the "most competent and intelligent leader" pmsl, his country is in an economic mess, there are many that despise him, he represses any opposition and he is fighting a conflict he cannot win, unless he wipes out every single Ukrainian, he is going to get bogged down there fighting guerilla warfare for years.  The Russians can't cope with guerilla tactics much the same as the Americans can't, look at Afghanistan.  They will loose in the end.

  9. 1 hour ago, Firebird said:

     

    You're still caught up in the worldly duality, taking sides, thinking one side is angels and the other side is demons. The EU isn't saintly. It's consists of a group of elitist technocrats that want to impose vaxx mandates and ethnically cleanse Europe's native population through its agendas. Russia isn't saintly either but I'm sure you know all about that. Now it's time you learn the rest and time you learn there aren't good sides.

     

     

    I never said the EU was perfect, what I said was countries voluntarily choose to join it.  The EU doesn't invade and threaten countries like Putin has.  I am not caught up in anything, l live in the real world not some fantasy of "NWOs" and "hidden agendas".

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  10. 6 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

    The Americans stirred this up in the first place. Obama, McCain, and Nuland were behind the 2013 colour revolution there. Don't you remember McCain - a warmongering bastard of the first order - was addressing demonstrators and Nuland was busy undermining Ukraine-Russian relations by promising EU membership, NATO membership, and  IMF loans. Putin has been pointing to this as the flashpoint where today's trouble started. But you can't say that in polite company. The West's narrative, as usual, is a tissue of lies. Putin is no saint and, in my opinion, is on board with the NWO to a point but watching NATO expand eastwards towards  Ukraine and Georgia was just too much.

    What a complete load of nonsense.  John McCain has fuck all to do with the EU and since he isn't or never been President of the U.S. has no say in who is a NATO member either.  Obama has no say in who joins the EU.

     

    Countries voluntarily join NATO.  Countries voluntarily apply for membership of the EU.  It isn't done under the threat of invasion.  Which is what Putin is about.  NATO mission is one of defence, built on an attack on one is and attack on all.  The EU is about countries PEACEFULLY co-operating with each other.  It's not some sinister conspiracy called the "NWO", that exists in your head.  The sinister threat is Vladimir Putin.

     

    Who benefits from a weak EU or NATO....?   Putin.

     

    Like I have mentioned a couple of times on here already, some of you are manipulated by Russian propaganda.

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  11. 3 hours ago, Captainlove said:

    Hi all, 

    Just to let you know panic buying of petrol has returned today where i live,alot of petrol stations sold out and don't know when the next delivery will be. Just what we need right now. Let me know what its like in your area.

    They were doing it yesterday by me.  I was tempted to ask them if they had enough bog rolls before the Russians invaded.

  12. 4 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

    According to the Guardian, the Germans are sending weapons to  Ukraine. They're sending anti-tank missiles and missiles. Being a NATO member, isn't that an act of aggression? This could escalate into a Europe-wide war unless cool heads intervene. Never thought I'd live to see one.

    It's not just Germany...  Britain, France & U.S have been doing it too.  The Germans were the last to start, they had some law (a remnant from WW2) that prevented them from doing it.

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  13. 4 minutes ago, Fluke said:

    Apparently he is threatening the Viking nations now. Perhaps this really is the real deal and his a mad man but I don't buy his insane. Just propaganda? 

    Ukraine is a Viking nation... The Kievan Rus were Viking settlers.  They then migrated across Asia to form what is now modern day Russia.

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