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I learnt from my grandparents, world war 2 era. My pop was a head gardener at a small stately home after the war. He taught me all I needed to know about recycling and maintaining what we have. Nothing wasted. All natural waste can be repurposed. Not a piece of plastic in sight. On the note of affordability. I envision a day when the only retail shops are owned by Amazon. Or a similar company. I always argue that we are blamed for the excess of multinationals etc. Just look at Amazon packaging.

Oh dear! What a pity! Never mind!

Have a word with yourself mate, there's a good lad.

I totally agree with you, But most people even on this forum have smart phones so that's not going to happen. My old phone is shit and i like it that way.

Plastic, rapidly becoming the bane of our existence. Who remembers requesting that practically all of our resources and requisites were made from plastic? Your shoes, handbag and wallet, plastic, whereas it was once leather. The shopping bag, plastic, which was previously woven from wicker. Foodstuffs, wrapped in plastic which ordinarily came in paper, made from biodegradable and sustainable hemp. Garden pots, plastic, which were once clay. Children’s toys, plastic, when they used to be fashioned from wood. The interior of your car? I learned to drive in a Rover100, which had leather seats, a wooden dashboard and shiny chrome. A thing of the past… Tupperware, which is stuffed into the back of a cupboard and never used, or is that just me? They even give us water, in plastic bottles. And vapes! Original alternatives are still available, such as leather shoes, but how many working class people can stretch their budget for that, when they depend on Primark for clothing and Food Banks to eat? Plastic is affordable, because it is simply a by-product of the petrochemical industry, which they sought to exploit for profit. It was foisted upon us, without consultation, until we became dependant on it, for multiple reasons. However, they claim the ‘plastic island’ floating in the Pacific, the microplastics contained in everything and the plastic carrier bag in the belly of a whale is our fault? Let’s focus on the manufacturer and not the consumer. It’s the same as ‘health,’ they offer the ‘cure’ but never address the cause. The companies that created this plastic ‘apocalypse’ ought to take responsibility.

Very true, when were we ever asked if we wanted to replace our traditional materials with plastic? A lot of it happened in my lifetime too. The corporations go ahead with these things and then we're expected to have a guilt trip and pay green taxes to clean up their mess.

nadine dorries - resigned immediate effect bojo - resigned immediate effect

the western fake news media propaganda are going full TDS with trumps latest court case. my old man will be going "look at your mate trump doing this and that" i'll tell him "biden had documents in his garage and hillary gave russia uranium" and the SHEEPY reply will be "oh i dont know" because what i told him hasn't been in his fkin daily comic The Sun if its not in the fkin sun it never fkin happened.

Quote is from Saint Paisios, from about 1990. The 12 minute YouTube video a short scroll down on the link is rather interesting. “…now a vaccine has been developed to combat a new disease, which will be obligatory and those taking it will be marked… https://libertysentinel.org/orthodox-prophecy-warned-of-global-vaccine-mark-regime

Hiding submarines under the water? Why didn't anyone think of that before....

You might offer some compassion

Digital ID's....tony blair tried to foist ID cards into the british people but was rebuffed. As the covid business began there was talk in the independent media about the rockefellers 'ID2020' scheme and now sure enough we see a global push for digital ID's which are being justified as a way to combat 'pandemics' but really they have been a long held desire of the globalist cabal for a long time as they want to control every aspect of everyones lives: WHO Plots To Use EU Vaccine Passport Tech To Form Global Digital Health Certificates Published: June 7, 2023 The World Health Organization (WHO) announced it will adopt the European Union’s digital Covid vaccine passport framework to create a global network of digital health certificates. What was long maligned as a conspiracy theory is coming to pass. The new initiative will be called the Global Digital Health Certification Network. Read about the dangers of vaccine passports and how they kill civil liberties here. The WHO said it will “take up the European Union (EU) system of digital COVID-19 certification to establish a global system that will help facilitate global mobility and protect citizens across the world from on-going and future health threats.” The EU’s Covid vaccine certificate was enforced in July 2021 and issued to over 2.3 billion people. In a statement, WHO’s Director-General Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus said that “building on the EU’s highly successful digital certification network, WHO aims to offer all WHO Member States access to an open-source digital health tool.” “New digital health products in development aim to help people everywhere receive quality health services quickly and more effectively,” he added. The European Commissioner for Health and Food Safety, Stella Kyriakides said: “Today is a new chapter in global cooperation on digital health. It will help to place WHO at the center of our global health architecture.” The WHO’s new initiative comes at a time when the use of vaccine passports has reduced and after the global public health organization said that Covid was no longer a public health emergency. Critics of vaccine passports argue that they could be used to discriminate and deny people access to public services. Others view them as an invasion of privacy by equipping governments with the power to spy on people’s health, as well as create a checkpoint society. The idea of a global vaccine passport was criticized by Australian senator Alex Antic, who argued that it was “just another conspiracy theory coming true.” https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/84818/who-plots-to-use-eu-vaccine-passport-tech-to-form-global-digital-health.html

i'm with you 100% on all points

I think we are now going to see an avalanche of new ways of living suggestions. So far most, if not all, seem to involve similar attitudes to resolving problems. As you said, global etc. I don’t think humans do well in large groups at all. Just a few in a room will eventually cause an argument. I like the idea of my cart being rode to market once a month or so. Bit of socialisation then back to my family. I also believe that my idea of freedom is probably very different from the average person. I don’t need rights to ensure access to the internet or telephones. I don’t need the right of massive consumer choice. I need a safe environment, clean potable water, healthy food and a shelter I can keep warm in the winter. The luxuries I can gain by bartering goods for things I can’t create myself. The rest I can barter for if needed.

yes and there is that word 'global' in there which means they intend to scale it globally what does it all mean for individual freedom also? is it some sort of part of the 'great reset'?

I don't know what to make of this one. Is this a form of communism in disguise? I'm going to post it up anyway as its an example of different ways of doing and thinking so even as an exercise is alternative thinking its an interesting read: https://stroudcommons.org/about/ Stroud Commons is a group of Stroud residents who have come together to build the ‘commons’ economy in Stroud, and to document everything so that it can be implemented in other towns too. The commons economy is an economy in which the essentials of life – housing, energy, land, food, water, transport, social care, the means of exchange etc. are owned in common, in communities, rather than by absentee landlords, corporations or the state. More on ‘commoning’ here. We’re working with Mutual Credit Services, the Credit Commons Society, Lowimpact.org, Island Power and Local Loop Lancaster & Morecambe to help build commons institutions. NEW IDEAS New ideas are emerging that allow us to take infrastructure into common ownership without incurring debt – which I think is the main reason that (much as we love them) co-ops / mutuals aren’t challenging the current system, and are now being absorbed into it. Also, these ideas work well for working-class communities, which is essential for real change. Below is an outline of these new ideas (just strapline and ‘elevator pitch’, with links to more info). The groups above will run co-design workshops in any town in the UK (and via zoom if overseas) and are happy to answer questions face-to-face or online. 1. Credit clearing Strapline: reducing the need for money and banks. It’s something the banks do, to reduce the need for money to pay debts. But we can do it too. Imagine A owes B £10; B owes C £10; C owes A £10. If everyone has all the information, it can just clear, without needing money to pay debts. For networks of trading small businesses, this can be done with algorithms, covering larger and larger areas. More info: https://www.lowimpact.org/categories/credit-clearing (put questions for specialists into comments). 2. Mutual credit Strapline: the means of exchange in the commons economy. A way for small businesses to trade without needing money or banks. Members get an account, set at zero. When they sell, they get credits, when they buy, they get debits. There are limits to how far anyone can go into credit or debit. It’s a means of exchange, but not a store of value, so it can’t be extracted from communities and concentrated. More info: https://www.lowimpact.org/categories/mutual-credit (put questions for specialists into comments). 3. Use-credit obligations (UCOs) Strapline: the means of storing value in the commons economy. Allows infrastructure to be brought into the commons without incurring debt, by issuing vouchers sold at a discount. Imagine a community energy group wanting to put up a wind turbine. At the moment, to get the funds, they need to go into debt or give away equity (which means the infrastructure will be in the hands of capitalists before long). Instead, they issue energy-credit obligations – vouchers denominated in kWh, not £ (which makes them inflation-proof). People will want them because they’re sold at a discount, and they provide a store of value – interest-free security for old age or sickness. UCOs can work in every sector of the economy (starting with housing commons, because everyone needs housing, and the housing market is so broken). More info: https://www.lowimpact.org/categories/use-credit-obligations (put questions for specialists into comments). 4. Credit Commons Strapline: going global. All these monetary projects can be connected together via a protocol – a ‘language’ that they can all speak that allows them to trade between each other – but in a federation, with no centre. Each local group retains full autonomy, but in a way that can form the basis of a new global commons economy. Everything is interoperable – so people can pay their rent, energy bills etc. (and get paid) in mutual credit. More info: https://creditcommonssociety.org/about-the-credit-commons/ 5. Global commons economy Doesn’t require money, banks, interest, debt, corporations or the state. The essentials of life, including housing, energy, food, broadband, transport, employment, credit, care and governance can be owned and controlled in common. The ‘rock’ on which all this can be built may well be the housing commons – everyone needs a home, houses are relatively non-technical and the housing market is in a mess.

i don't know if its a hoax as such but i question whether that guy is a christian or not. I was calling it a 'false flag' in the sense of maybe they are pretending he was a christian in order to demonise christianity which is another of the cabals pet projects

What does this have to do with the topic? You ARE a bit slow. HE’S THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST !!!

Evidently not rich and famous enough to dodge the jab like some did. We can be 99.7 % (an interesting figure that somehow comes to mind) sure that Bliar and Macaroon remain unvaccinated. Like 9/11, the official tale of convid was a falsity.. mere theatre for the masses. As the official reason for the jab is untrue, all we can be certain of is that billions of people have be injected with God-knows-what for God-knows-what reason.

When this was talked about by David years and years ago, it was just another conspiracy theory by that nutter. Are people ever going to wake up and take notice? https://news.sky.com/story/cost-of-living-latest-cost-of-household-appliances-from-july-revealed-as-new-savings-account-one-of-highest-in-decade-12615118

It's simple, stop using the SMART PHONES ditch them https://davidicke.com/2023/06/10/london-supermarket-foreshadows-incoming-wef-digital-prisons/

A bit Qesque. Law should now explain their reason. Quite clear their covering their arses.

Unfortunately that accounts for the 99%. I glance at msm in the morning, but only to see what I need to question.

God has a second thought about plugging it back in !

Some, definitely and I hope you don't get triggered

There was not a single plane mentioned

Who, FFS, are the muppets that stand behind spokespeople in the US and other western countries ?

JABBED ? Mike Batayeh dead: Breaking Bad actor dies aged 52 Surprise, surprise ! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65851444

Tucker Talks Taboos After MSM Ignores Instagram Kiddie-Porn Bombshell by Tyler Durden Friday, Jun 09, 2023 - 12:44 PM After his first episode topped 100 million views, Tucker Carlson is back with Episode 2, exploring how we, as a population, are controlled (or coerced) directly (through laws) or indirectly (through taboos). Carlson observes the changing societal taboos in America, suggesting that they are being dictated from above rather than evolving organically, focusing explicitly on the shift in attitudes towards race-based attacks, adultery in politics, and child molestation. "Let's say you wanted to control a country," the former Fox News man begins rather joltingly. "Well," he explains "you'd want to make sure you had the complete obedience of everybody within your borders who was authorized to use deadly force... you'd start with the military... [and other agencies] like the IRS." "Controlling the guns would be a top priority for you if ever wanted to go dictatorial." But, Carlson, asks, what if you wanted more, not simply to control people's behavior, "but to control how they think." "In that case," he remarks, "you'd need to take charge of its taboos." A taboo is something that by popular consensus is not allowed, it is not illegal, but it doesn't need to be. "Over time, social prohibitions are more powerful and more enduring than laws." Until fairly recently, Tucker points out that it was taboo in this country to attack people on the basis of their race, but he notes "apparently we no longer believe that - punishing people on the basis of their skin color is not only permitted in modern America, it is mandatory... as long as the victims are white." Carlson questions the definition and scope of white supremacy as described by President Joe Biden... Which brings Carlson to this week's horrific WSJ expose of Instagram's kiddie-porn rings which he notes has resulted in exactly nothing as "one of the largest circulation newspapers in the world reported that one of the world's most influential companies was promoting pedophilia and nobody in power did anything about it." BREAKING: Instagram algorithm exposed promoting pedophile networks in massive investigation, video sales, ‘preteensex’ menus, in-person meetups with underage boys and girls, using emojis such as a map and cheese pizza - WSJ — Jack Poso (@JackPosobiec) June 7, 2023 As Carlson notes, "The people who run this country no longer see child molesters as the worst among us" He expresses concerns about the blurred lines of crime, the erosion of defined legal codes, and the need to protect societal taboos as guiding moral principles. In fact, he continues, "what we are allowed to dislike is being dictated to us from above, sometimes by force." The trick, that has happened slowly and then all at one, is that "when a crime has no definition, anyone can be guilty of it" "Don't let them rationalize away your intuitive moral sense." "Cling to your taboos like you life depends on them... because it does." Watch the full Tucker On Twitter episode below: Ep. 2 Cling to your taboos! pic.twitter.com/45AeVdtwOu — Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) June 8, 2023 https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-talks-taboos-after-msm-ignores-instagram-kiddie-porn-bombshell

what took you so long? Swedish Prime Minister: "Massive Immigration Just Doesn't Work" Friday, Jun 09, 2023 - 11:30 AM Swedish Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson has acknowledged that “massive immigration just doesn’t work” as he announced changes to the country’s border control policy that would make it the strictest in the European Union. Kristersson made the comments to mark the National Day of Sweden as he insisted that it was too easy for migrants who can’t even speak Swedish to obtain citizenship. “Let me be clear: Massive immigration and poor integration just doesn’t work,” wrote Kristersson. “That is why we are now changing Sweden’s migration policy and making it the strictest in the EU.” The leader of the center-right Moderate Party said new measures would be introduced to ensure migrants had not committed crimes in their home countries and also tests to ensure they respect Swedish culture and heritage. “A ‘no’ to asylum means ‘no’ and you have to leave the country. That should be obvious, but it’s not,” said the PM. “Equally important, a ‘yes’ should mean that you really get involved in Swedish society.” Kristersson said citizenship was not just about obtaining a passport and should be a “social contract and that social contract contains both rights and obligations.” He added that up until now “there has been absolutely no expectation that anyone who comes to Sweden will really learn our language,” which is the “glue that binds us together.” https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swedish-prime-minister-massive-immigration-just-doesnt-work

Good job we'll be wearing our tinfoil reflectors or our heads would burn!

2050. Person who identifies as female projects a thought to partner who identifies as male, 'Do you remember when we had those funny things called ears on our heads and used to communicate through that hole called a mouth?' 'Haha! Yes, that brings back memories. And remember those two other things, oh, what were thay called again...?' 'Eyes! They were eyes!' 'Yes, that's them! Do you miss them?' '... (sad) ... I miss tears.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65852062 Donald Trump indicted over classified documents case

I only converse with immediate family now. I can't cope with others. It's just pleasantries (e.g. the weather) Works quite well

Luckily, I have a very rare need to see anyone not of my choosing. Some may consider my choice antisocial. I would consider it to be about surrounding myself and those I love with positive vibrations.

SNOOOOZ just in, Leaked photographic evidence has emerged detailing the 'who' and the 'what' of the 'why' of the habbening, Orwell has been more right over the last three and a half years than Trump has, speculation is growing that reality has violated copyright infringement to such a degree that reality must now be forcibly banned from existing at the DNS level, anyone caught with a pirated version of this reality is expected to face severe consequences of up to life imprisonment and fines exceeding anything of any known value ever to have existed, to which the FED replied "don't look at us, we just made it all up, we actually never knew anything at all of any value to begin with",

wow, you were right you know! I found out who installed it to them and it makes hell of a lot sense in terms of 'material' used and layers. Fit for purpose! Glad I was only passing by.

I haven't looked in to this delta and q drop/event yet, but skimming over the outlines it could have some meat to it!? It also relates to this: Was this part of a move and countermove made? On this date an operation would be active, the countermove was going to be...above tweet? no idea. 2018 does not mean 2018, posts exist for reference to approximate time frame, expands to 2024/2025 or so, but that does not mean the "end" of this is then either. If you look around the worlds news and events unfold since 2017 and apply Q drops, what do you notice?

Pity the government don't really want to help people - imagine if they hadn't spent the last few years trying to claw back every penny they could off my Mum's pension and made it harder and harder for her to get the help she needed with council stuff. Poncing around with iniatives, bribing her to have jabs, bribing her to take gift vouchers in exchange for signing away her independence. Constantly sending her shite in the post, full of info that nobody outside of the civil service understands or can make sense of. Imagine if none of that had happened, and she'd got the pension she paid into, got her bins collected without fuss, got left in peace to spend her savings without the threat of this-or-that bollocks in the name of "climate change" and "public health and safety". Been able to go to the bloody GP without being refused to be seen as she wasn't important enough and "because Covid". Been able to go into a bank and discuss anything she needed to, instead of trying to decipher some non-native speaking muppet across the other side of the world on a call centre's loudspeaker. Maybe she wouldn't have lost her fucking mind.

I don't know any other way than to follow my own instincts. It's not being clever, it's just how I'm wired and I guess the NPC types can't be any other way. They're born to just follow the herd. The idea of doing anything other than what I believe in is just a non-starter.

That envelope does have the classic tell tale signs of being steamed open, it's the crinkles that give it away, although i would not say it was anywhere from within the post office as they have other technologies to scan the contents of an envelope, think airport scanners, So the question becomes where has this envelope been on its journey to your door mat, who has access to your door mat or letter box,

Latest gas lighting by someone ive known 30 years...ex council worker and went to prison for fighting for 3 years,heavily into conspiracy theories but ive always had my doubts about him...comes up to me one day last week while shopping,here's the conversation " eh mate have you heard about that fake food factory they are building near burton..i think we should do something like visit the place maybe sabotage it"....thought about playing along with him this time,for some reason hes reluctant to meet in wetherspoons to discuss his plans, well i thought i'd put this on record here..ive no intention of doing what he says because ive come to the conclusion they are trying to set me up..one taped conversation is enough to get you sent to prison these days

I agree with this 100%. I remember when I was on holiday for two weeks in Jamaica where I never used the internet & didn't have a mobile phone, I felt more alive than ever. I reckon the internet is zapping our minds & replacing it with all sorts of weird stuff. All's I can say is, ' stay focused'.

I agree with this, though not necessarily with "how to invest finances correctly". Many kids leaving school and becoming adults either simply don't know the value of money, or indeed where it comes from. (Clue: you have to earn, or work for it, in most cases) Much of the fuss with the current "cost of living crisis" is that many people don't know how to properly manage their household finances, or even how to 'budget'. (Or even how to 'live within their means') If your income is limited, then you have to reduce your spending, if that means having to 'do without' some luxuries, then so be it, your priority should be on the 'essentials'. If you want to increase your income, get a better paid job! But that of course means increasing your skillset, gaining experience and working hard. I've become convinced in recent years that many kids now expect to leave school and walk straight into highly-paid £100k a year jobs. There's little notion of the idea of 'working your way up the ladder', because most of this generation now just expect instant gratification. Thirty-odd years ago when I was at school, there was already a 'perception' among the girls, that all they had to do to get on in life was to get pregnant, and the council would then give them housing, and they could then live on benefits. The mentality is still there nowadays, what kind of a role-model to a child, is a parent (or parents) who don't work and just live off benefits? When I left school, I had a desire to work, earn money, and learn through gaining experience. That has allowed me to 'work up the ladder' and get to where I am today. But I have made mistakes along the way, due to my own inability to control my finances and limit my spending to what I could actually afford, rather than just taking the 'easy way' of using credit cards and overdrafts. It was one of the things that I wasn't taught at school - how to live within your means and how to improve your situation.

Bright kid.