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Yeah but it's all the side ways passing and playing out from back. Not even ticky tacker. I'm not one of these mob who thinks that passing back nessesarily makes the game slow as long as it's done with purpose. Same with wingers they just cut in. Strikers got nothing about them anymore the majority. Really dull. They are just athletes now. You are right about media circus just woke nonsense. Listening to obnoxious women screeching down the speakers. You notice they try and interview players and stuff half time now wtf is that all about? And then they all huddle in the field like a bunch of schoolboys. Seems a bit Americanism to me? Standards were up when managers used to wear suits. Then pep came along and the other managers started wearing tackies. Bring back the suits.

PL football is just a media circus and teams owned/managed/full of overseas "talent". England national side no better, regardless of who's in charge. Thought it might at least be interesting with Thomas the Tank Engine but they still play like a drain. But he's more fun to listen to in interviews. Southgate and Carsley.....? shoot me now.

Sadly this is typical of many 'influencers' who gain a large following on Youtube and other social media - I'm reminded of when I used to follow the likes of Dave Cullen (Computing Forever, The Dave Cullen Show) and Hugo Talks. Dave Cullen started out on Youtube doing videos about 'computing stuff', tech and sci-fi, but when I started watching his videos he was already deep into political and conspiracy stuff. And then all of a sudden, he had some 'awakening' and started preaching about religious stuff, Christianity basically. And curiously, the same thing happened with Hugo Talks. This is why I warn people to 'beware the Pied Piper' - because they suck you in by 'producing content' that appeals to you, and then at some point they start going off and subtly promote some other ideology, which usually fits with what the 'establishment' agenda desires.

Oh the 'perks' of being an MP, unfortunately for 'transparency reasons' one also has to declare second jobs, gifts, donations and other 'freebies'. Second jobs and freebies for MPs revealed - Lady Gaga and Black Sabbath tickets and foreign trips from: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/second-jobs-freebies-mps-revealed-32645585 That article lists and details declarations made by MPs in Birmingham and Solihull, there is a separate article covering MPs in the Black Country and bordering Worcestershire area here: https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/second-jobs-freebies-revealed-mps-32664855 While it is stressed that there is nothing illegal being done, certainly I feel there is something 'morally wrong' with MPs having 'second jobs' alongside what is supposedly a full-time job, and it's not like MPs are poorly paid either. As well as Cat Eccles mentioned earlier in this thread, I see some other MPs have taken trips to Israel, for "fact-finding purposes", paid for by Friends Of Israel groups. Other MPs have been 'gifted' tickets to sporting events and music concerts. But the question that many people never ask is "what is expected in return for such favours?" Because as with anything in this world "nothing is ever truly free", and nobody ever gets 'money for nothing', there is always something expected in exchange. "Systemic injustices", such a vague term that could cover anything. But now Ms Mahmood is the UK's Home Secretary, who knows what strings she could pull to further this trust's goals? "They work for you" - unless you live in Sutton Coldfield where it seems your local MP has more financial interest in people in Africa. Oh and another one who enjoyed a 'fact-finding visit' to Israel. This is an interesting one as she's a relatively 'new' MP, having been parachuted in to replace Tom Watson, and winning that seat at the last election. "Cayman Islands-based hedge fund investor" - campaigning for exactly what though, in West Bromwich? Nice that a new fresh-faced MP gets to enjoy free tickets to the BRIT Awards and Wimbledon. No mention of who paid for these tickets though - either a 'reward' or a condition of some future exchange. And this is on top of the generous monthly salary that MPs are all paid. MPs are elected to the House Of Commons to represent their constituents. I wonder just how many constituents actually take the time to contact their MP and raise issues with them? I know it probably seems a waste of time to do so, but is this all part of the problem? Most people only ever hear from their MP when it is nearly time to cast a vote in an election. And once that vote is secured and it wins them a place on the gravy train, you'll probably never hear from them again. It doesn't matter whether you voted for them or not. Your MP was elected to represent "you". If you have any concerns or opinions you want to share, get in touch with them, that is their job.

Digital ID protest London Oct 18th 2025

Course they are. There is no actual UK government anymore. They don't serve the British people or give a toss about them.

Keir Starmer set to unveil digital ID scheme https://www.ft.com/content/f2b333ba-3157-473f-b831-9eb7856c1edd It's not about illegal immigration it's about monitoring and controlling every aspect of your life both off and online

Thats no worse than the crystal palace fans got away with at high security Wembley! chucking a few smoke bombs about is standard fare for building atmosphere in these boring concrete bowl stadiums. The BBC are just ramping up the fear and the anger for the islamic brummys for when Keith Starmer overturns Villas ban! Curiously Villa are owned by an Egyption predominantly a Muslim country, the supporters include devil worshiping rocker Ozzy Osbourne, Royal prince William and his sons, Serial killer Fred West and Cameron the ex PM of the UK

Modern football, esp the PL, is just a "product" now. Content for the entertainment business. Same with F1. Drivers all young and pretty boys with very little edge to them. And even when Max gets pissed, it's more like a tot's tantrum.

Anyone else just find football shit these days? Not even a conscious decision it's just boring. I prefer watching championship football.

Having done a little digging about Together Declaration which I have posted about in the MAM thread, I was reminded about Daniel Shen-Smith (Black Belt Barrister). I have expressed reservation about him in the past, including about his association with Charlie Veitch, but I think now is the time to dig a little further into that. Together Declaration are connected to the internet magazine 'Spiked' which arose out of 'Living Marxism' which was the journal for the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP) of the 1980s and 1990s. Spiked is also connected to Toby Young's Free Speech Union (FSU) and Baroness Claire Fox, one of RCP's alumni, sits on the advisory council of FSU. Shen-Smith actively promotes FSU as a "gold member" and emphasises how he is a passionate believer in freedom of expression. Yet he has previously uploaded a video (linked to below) where he applauds how well the Chinese digital ID system works for them and how convenient it is. He has a Chinese wife and seems to visit China quite regularly whilst complaining about the rigmarole they had to go through for his wife to legally come to the UK. He received significant backlash from the video so has back pedalled to now saying how it is a good system in China but wouldn't suit us here in the UK... Shen-Smith has also been very scathing towards the Dalai Llama again demonstrating alignment with China. It's interesting too how Shen-Smith's videos have become increasingly political when his channel was purportedly originally created during Covid to help people understand the law. He is now aligned with the right including Rupert Lowe and Restore Britain. It comes across to me that he established a following first, based on being an upstanding and respectable font of legal knowledge, before branching out into ideological issues. No criticism as I have also shared BBB's videos (albeit with a caveat) as I think he can be considered more or less reliable on points of law. However, his political ideology and loyalties are, in my opinion, open to question. He seems somewhat sympathetic towards Chinese ways of thinking whilst linked to a network involving RCP alumni.

Rather than de-railing the Digital ID thread, I thought it more fitting to respond in this one. You speak of depth of thought but have not yourself engaged with the full range of reasons why some distrust the Together Declaration and/or Fiona Rose-Diamond. Much has already been said about Fiona across the forum and over the years so perhaps some attention should be given to Together Declaration this time. Regarding Piers Corbyn's reasons for distrusting Together Declaration, he has made connections between it and a network of hard left players including some of the alumni previously involved in the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP). This includes Frank Furedi and Claire Fox. RCP's network included a journal called 'Living Marxism' which has now become 'Spiked'. I'm not on X so it hasn't been easy for me to track down Piers's diagram but I have found a similar one via the link below which discusses "the Communist infiltration of the right". https://ukreloaded.com/the-communist-infiltration-of-the-right/ Not forgetting that the Together Declaration didn't exactly speak out about the Covid injections. Its primary founder, Alan Miller, backs Reform UK which called for compulsory vaccination of care home workers, as did Dr David Bull who receives support from Miller. Spiked also endorsed mandatory vaccinations of care home workers whilst Miller has a shareholding in Spiked alongside Frank Furedi who was a founding shareholder and is platformed by Together Declaration. Perhaps you're OK with with Together Declaration's connections to Reform UK and Spiked with their endorsement of vaccination mandates but it makes me uneasy - as does its place within a network involving Communists. I think Piers Corbyn has good cause for speaking out about such things. Would you care to share your thoughts on these connections?

Big internet outage yesterday night and today… Loads of sites down. Ringdoor bells not working. Really slow download time. I remember when waiting for Monkey Island to load would take hours and hours! These kids no nothing of slow download times! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y8k7k6v1rt

A 'HITTING THE NAIL ON THE HEAD' comment right there, spot on, snakes in the grass, the same as Canada!

There's a day of cash only, digital non-compliance planned for the 18th November. Also in Australia. Once again, who is planning it?

The Daily Mail have reported that "thousands" attended yesterday's demonstration in London against Digital ID. The video below provides a snapshot and includes interviews with David Icke, Fiona Rose-Diamond, Katy-Jo Murfin (Hope Sussex), Sean Finch (Delivering Liberty) and Piers Corbyn. To help jog your memory, Fiona Rose-Diamond - aka Fiona Hine - appears from about 1 minute 30 seconds.

Apparently he tried to dig up dirt on her before she began to accuse him. Gave his police team her details and confidential information to find anything they could. More police just “following orders…” Personally I would now prosecute the officers. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdegkd00yz3o

The ancient Egyptians practised magic and snakes were an important symbol too. They represented both protection and authority on the positive side; and chaos on the negative. Pharaohs had a model cobra on their crowns. So it feeds into the theory that Moses was an Egyptian priest and magician possibly connected with Akhenaten the monotheist Pharaoh (Freud believed this) although it's just one theory. https://chriswilsonstudio.com/snakes-in-egyptian-mythology/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten#Speculative_theories You're right about a connection with the Buddha too, in the story there's a snake (naga) called Mucalinda who appeared, to protect Gautama Buddha from a storm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucilinda Snakes appear in a lot of mythologies, tho I've not come across them being compared with angels. But it could be a link there too.

And we all know how the Aussie govt behaved during "Covid".....no surprise they're on board early.

The OP was right to include 'Worldwide' in the title. It appears there is a global effort to roll this out. Starmer and Labour are in the pockets of the Globalists. .

Reports claim Vietnam has shut down 86 million bank accounts because users refused to link them to the new Digital ID system. Critics warn this is a preview of what could happen worldwide. “We saw the same control during Covid, one step at a time. First it’s convenience… then it’s compliance.” Concerns are rising that Digital IDs could decide what we buy, where we travel, even what we eat. As one speaker said: “Cash is freedom and it’s slipping away"

Last reminder for protest march tomorrow

Nice little test study to show us how amazing the digital ID will be coming up! 1.8m military vets will be able to download the app soon. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj3zmjrzegjo Edit: So is planned to be mandatory by 2029… just in time for the 2030 great reset we keep hearing about.

Mental. Parents rushing off to get their kids jabbed. Standing in a queue to get a flu jab. Then rush to McDonald’s for lunch because they have a fat jab pencilled in for the afternoon. What’s brilliant is how when these folk do get sick they lay in bed for months coming out with drivel like “ooh imagine how worse I would have been if I didn’t get the jab!” Although, tbh, when I get sick I do go around telling people how bad It could have been if I had been jabbed….

Yeah and I think this is how it’ll creep in. For most people, most of the time, things probably don’t seem that different. I thought the other day about shopping and the amount of apps people have. Tesco. LidlPlus. Co op etc… And how at the minute you can still shop without one.. But, imagine another lockdown scenario where shops are closed. You can order online but only with an app. They may even allow a few shoppers daily but only those with that shops app etc… I had a letter in the post the other day from my GP suggesting I download an app to make booking appointments easier and to have queries responded to quicker…. As they know people are fed up with hour long waits on the phone just to be told that the next available appointment is months away. And slightly unrelated, but now, every time I go online to query something like broadband, or even a google search, my results are provided by AI. It’s not even creeping in anymore. Apps and AI are already herding us into a pen.

I recently had to get visual ID on a smartphone for some urgent necessary legal documents concerning the sale of an elderly relative's house, in order for the family to have funds to pay their very expensive care bills. As I refuse to own a smartphone, and even though I fought for it, no other option was possible apparently, I had to enlist the help of a friend who did the photos for the form on their smartphone. Instant facial recognition technology, whether I want it or not, centralised nicely and digitally with my licence, signature, and all other points of ID...etc etc. The one thing I wasn't asked for was a fingerprint. This didn't happen in 2011 when another family member's house was sold after their death. All I had to provide then was a signature on a paper document, a couple of utility bill photocopies, and a photocopy of driving licence. So it does seem that digital ID mechanisms are already doing their thing. They are probably the thing for lots of legal transactions nowadays, and obviously already in place for dealing with property. We are already sucked in, like it or not, or chunks of our lives simply won't work. But I do still like to see those signatures on the petition rising each minute, and take note that there are quite a lot of people who are not dozing off. Very high numbers of protesters in Labour constituencies too which I found interesting.

Its another peice of insidious legislation that supposedly protects vulnerable children and saves parents money. So once again, to help a minority a majority have to be included but don't worry it will save the parents of non vulnerable children a few quid. Meanwhile the government gets complete control and access to personal data with the ability to track and punish as they choose. But decent, fair minded non racist people who care about the most vulnerable in our society will be pleased. F*ckin passive aggressive mealy mouthed dictator. Son of a Toolmaker

I notice for the past couple of days the Daily Mail has been making a big thing about an "anti-Semitic" woman filmed cutting down October 7th ribbons with a pair of scissors and accusing the Israelis of genocide. The woman who did it has been identified as "Nadia Yahlom", Yahlom is funnily enough a JEWISH name and the woman looks Jewish. The Mail are trying to portray this as indicative of anti-Semitism being rife in the UK, yet it seems to me that it's either a put up job by the Jewish community or an example of infighting within the Jewish community, and nothing to do with wider British society as a whole. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15171947/I-felt-rage-shock-confronted-woman-cutting-yellow-ribbons-tied-railings-support-Israeli-hostages.html

"A freedom" ??? Freedom is freedom, it is inherent and should be 24/7/365. Otherwise it is not actual freedom but conditional control. It is up to us to use our God given freedom to not harm another. Words spoken may not go down well, but you can go about your day even if pissed off at someone's view point. The shit that spews out of leaders mouth do harm however, because they act upon it using their powers to enforce in legislation, which is abuse and tyrannical.

Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood said. "Just because you have a freedom doesn't mean you have to use it at every moment of every day."

Couple the ID with Digital Currency and I can see a day when we go to the pub and after a number of drinks our money will be shut off. You've had what we believe is enough, the government says go home. Thats if pubs survive, it seems to me part of the agenda is to remove public meeting places. So we don't talk. They did it with Coffee Shops before, the Public would meet, no doubt someone bought a newspaper and they would discuss. It was feared a revolution might arise from the Public meeting up to discuss current affairs. It sounds mad, but I think Starmer and others are mad. I think they are trying to break the system while restricting our freedoms so they can eventually say 'whoops, oh it's all gone wrong, oh well, here's communism instead' They are setting the country up so all the wealth, from defence spending to home ownership is in the hands of offshore companies. All the money gets sucked out of the country and we're forever debt slaves. Starmer is mad enough to do it. Why is the Government considering farming out the Digital ID to a Private company? Its government business, government is responsible for its security. If they farm it out, and it's hacked, government will shrug it's shoulders, it's not our fault. When it is, because they farmed it out to a company that will put profits first. We send electrical scrap abroad so children in India can boil the circuit boards to recover metals at great detriment to their health. We don't care what happens when it leaves our shores, we're not responsible for other countries. But Net Zero, net zero says we have to decarbonize our economy because it's a global thing. Doesn't matter if our contribution is small in comparison. Well why doesn't the same apply to dumping rubbish abroad? Its still environmentally damaging, it's damaging children, why is that not considered on a global scale? They pick and choose. As with Gaza, there is selective outrage. We must have net zero for global good citizenship, but we'll dump all our toxic crap abroad in a non environmental manner so we don't have to deal with it. Its incredible.

wheres khans inflatable trump blimp from last time?

That is indeed all (sadly) true. However my point was that local MPs are accepting paid-for trips to countries for purposes that have little bearing on the day-to-day lives on their constituency residents. It's probably not hard to work out what the purpose of this trip to Israel was all about, being sponsored ("paid for") by Labour Friends Of Israel. I don't expect we'll see Ms Eccles joining any 'pro-Palestinian' protest in Stourbridge, or the wider Dudley area, any time soon. It would be nice if we had some principled MPs who would dare to resist this dirty money and speak out against the Israeli and other lobbyists, and actually stand up for the people of this country, rather than pandering to the interests of others.

The 'whip' system makes sure that it's hard for MPs to truly represent their constituents - even more so if they're a cabinet minister with 'collective responsibility'. The local constituents may vote in their MP, but to get MPs to vote against party leadership diktats and risk their career is very difficult. There's safety in numbers, so the Labour MPs who threatened to vote against the PIP disability cuts got away with it that time. Most locals probably know very little about their MP, and tend to vote on party affiliation anyway. Which also gives a lot of power to the local party bosses who choose their candidates. They need to be a good loyal conforming member to get that far in the process. So the idea of ordinary people's interests regularly being represented in Parliament is and always has been a myth.