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I had a similar experience in a Data Science class. We were just thrown a load of data and told to analyze it. Naturally the data was on renewable energy v fossil fuels with the expectation that we would notice how many fossil fuels are being burned and criticize the free market for allowing this to happen. Through various regressions and cluster analysis I discovered a very interesting anomaly. I forget the exact numbers but say 90 percent of energy production was fossil fuel and 10 percent clean energy. Yet when it came to energy consumption about 99 percent was fossil and 1 percent clean. That indicates that a lot of clean energy is being lost. So, I regressed the trend in clean energy production against the trend in transmission loss. Perfect fit. This demonstrated conclusively that the more clean energy is produced, the more energy that is lost in transmission. A near perfect correlation. I did some research, and it transpired that a lot of renewable energy just can't be used in the current grid. I can't recall exactly, but it is something to with the nature of its current which makes it incompatible with household supply. The lecturer was not happy. I had transgressed against her sacred cow. Nevertheless, my paper was by far the best, so she had no choice but to award me a High Distinction, although pointing out that my conclusions were wrong. Though she couldn't quite explain why. It is almost certain that the 6 million figure is incorrect. For one 6 million exactly is incredibly unlikely and suggests some rounding at the very least. So, we know immediately that actual numbers have not been used in the claim. Therefore, it begs the question of how much rounding and how reliable/accurate the original dataset is. 6 million is an interesting number. There are some that claim it is based on Leviticus 25:10: "And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family." According to Ben Weintraub there is a missing 'Vav' in the verse which means that the correct way to read the verse is "You will return minus 6 million". I have no idea whether this is correct or not. But holocaust does literally mean burnt offering. A more provable problem with the official narrative is that the gas ovens at Auschwitz were built after the war as a tourist attraction. From an economic perspective the official narrative does not make a lot of sense either. During a war when resources are scarce are you really going to waste them on transporting Jews across Germany and into Eastern Europe to methodically kill them? That makes no sense. There are a lot of questions. I have no doubt that something went on. Unfortunately, the waters have been so muddied it is very difficult to discern fact from fiction. There are spurious claims going in both directions. I have no idea if replying to your 666th post is a bad omen or not ...

Fiona first popped up at the anti-lockdown demonstration at Hyde Park on 16th May 2020 where she was arrested. She has since gone on to organise and lead many of the anti-lockdown / anti-vax demonstrations from 2020 to date whilst setting up campaign groups and websites. She says that her success as an activist is because she has worked as an events coordinator. There are a lot of people who have suspicions about her including, for example, Mark Windows and Michael Chaves (Mad Mix). Mark Windows, after his prior experience with the Occupy Movement, came out early in questioning the figureheads behind the Covid protests in his "Covid "Protest" Social Engineers" article. It's not specific to Fiona but does draw attention to how movements become infiltrated and steered into dead ends and he has since expressed misgivings about her specifically. Michael Chaves (Mick) was heavily involved in the Covid "resistance" and openly questions how Fiona has been able to set up stages and big screens in central London, apparently without permission, whilst rubbing shoulders with Andrew Bridgen and speaking at the EU Parliament. Meanwhile, a recent anti-vax sing song at a park in Croydon which Mick went to was almost immediately shut down by police. I think Mick is a good egg and I'm pretty sure he was a member of the old forum commenting on the London Bridge so-called "terror attack" in his capacity as former paramedic. Fiona has had a meteoric rise to prominence within the "freedom movement" which many feel is inorganic especially as her story involves heroically becoming sober whilst now studying law. In the earlier lockdown days, Fiona was involved in many spats alongside Kate Shemirani. At a key juncture in September 2020, Fiona and Kate were, in my opinion, sowing division which split the movement. We discussed some of the goings on in the thread below. Fiona also associates with others who some consider to be dubious such as Katie Hopkins, Mark Steele and Andrew Bridgen. Members of the forum have expressed doubt about Fiona and I have witnessed countless such discussions on Telegram among those very active within the movement. I have never met her personally (although I have seen her at demonstrations) so I cannot speak from any personal feeling about her. However, I am wary.

Digital ID protest London Oct 18th 2025

Thanks eve for that. I just want to understand who's to be trusted and not. But i guess we will never really know fully. As much as katie hopkins seems to say the right things, there is something about her im not quiet sure about,plus her army background is a possible flag.

Ukrainian men aged 21 and 35 deny plotting arson attacks on properties linked to Keir Starmer Published: 18:24, 17 October 2025 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15202857/Ukrainian-men-aged-21-35-deny-plotting-arson-attacks-properties-linked-Keir-Starmer.html Two Ukrainian men have denied plotting arson attacks on properties linked to Sir Keir Starmer. Roman Lavrynovych, 21, and Petro Pochynok, 35, are accused of targeting two homes and a car alongside a third defendant, Romanian national Stanislav Carpiuc, 27. Two of the fires took place in Kentish Town, north London — one in the early hours of May 12 at the home where Sir Keir lived before becoming Prime Minister, and another four days earlier, on May 8, when a car was set alight on the same street. A third blaze is said to have been started on May 11 at the front door of a house converted into flats in Islington. A Toyota RAV4 once owned by the PM, and later sold to a neighbour, was also set alight on the same street four days earlier, on May 8. Today, the defendants appeared at the Old Bailey by videolink from Belmarsh prison before Mrs Justice Cheema-Grubb. A third blaze is said to have been started on May 11 at the front door of a house converted into flats in Islington. A Toyota RAV4 once owned by the PM, and later sold to a neighbour, was also set alight on the same street four days earlier, on May 8. Today, the defendants appeared at the Old Bailey by videolink from Belmarsh prison before Mrs Justice Cheema-Grubb. Lavrynovych, described as an aspiring model, and Pochynok pleaded not guilty to conspiracy to commit arson with intent to endanger life between April 1 and May 13. The charge alleges that the defendants, 'together with others'conspired to damage by fire property 'belonging to another and intending to endanger the life of another or being reckless as to the life of another would thereby be endangered'. Carpiuc was not asked to enter his plea to the same charge. The prosecution indicated that the case was not being treated as having a terrorist connection. Prosecutor Sarah Przybylsk told the court two defence statements had 'not been served yet' and are due by November 7.

The Daily Mail have reported that "thousands" attended yesterday's demonstration in London against Digital ID. The video below provides a snapshot and includes interviews with David Icke, Fiona Rose-Diamond, Katy-Jo Murfin (Hope Sussex), Sean Finch (Delivering Liberty) and Piers Corbyn. To help jog your memory, Fiona Rose-Diamond - aka Fiona Hine - appears from about 1 minute 30 seconds.

Ms Patel uses the words 'embarrassment' and 'disgrace', while forgetting the time she had to resign from the cabinet after he was caught having secret 'unauthorised' meetings with Israeli government officials, whilst supposedly 'on holiday' in Israel! Priti Patel quits cabinet over Israel meetings row from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41923007 I suppose it takes a liar to know a liar?

I actually did this in a history class once… I did a graph that suggested that if the population of Jews in the 1930s was decimated by 6 million, then the population today would be far less as the population growth of Jews has remained constant (1.2 or 1.4 or whatever it is, I can’t recall…). And that if no Jews died at all in the holocaust the figure would be higher than it is now…. But in the graph it showed that the figure would be far less than 6 million…. Anyway, the history teacher (Mr Cooper!) literally called me out in front of everyone and said what I did was ‘dangerous’ and probably ‘extremely racist.’ Personally, I still believe the figure was not 6 million. Remember, we are told 11 million died in the holocaust. The gas chambers, we are told, were in use 1939 until end of war. So about 6 years. That’s 1.8 million a year or about 5 thousand a day. That is a lot of grave space. A lot of man power. A lot of gas. What I think, is that of the 11 million that are reported to have died, 5 million were non jews, and that maybe, in total, 6 million people did die in the holocaust but not just Jews. But the 6 million figure just stuck. Anyway, I have somebody knocking on my door again. Be right back.

Why is there no gambling in China? Nobody likes Tibet.

I was there in 1968 when the only terror we faced was Eusebio.

Its the whole 'backstory' that makes this game of far more interest than it should have been. Aston Villa FC - at home in Birmingham, a city that is mostly 'majority Muslim' in its population, and where you're more likely to see Palestine flags and "Free Gaza" graffiti. Maccabi Tel Aviv - an Israeli football club, whose hooligans have form for causing upset where they go. I hope that nothing happens in the end, but if it does, then it's the perfect storm, and no-one should be surprised!

In a very recent interview, ex UK Police Detective John Wedger outlines his work on London Waterways and the symbolism he encountered on (barge) boats - and what the Police term 'Indicators' [of pe******a] Listen from this point: '...he [Police Superior London] went listen....I got a job for you. But you can't tell anyone. It's covert. But I want you to go onto the waterways and search for pe********. ' 'The thing is, I didn't realise at the time that the BBC brought out a programme at the time called 'Rosie & Jim'. About 2 Rag-dolls that lived on a canal boat called 'Rosie & Jim'. It's synonymous with he kids of the 80's and 90's.....the boat went up and down the canal. So, they become, like, a bit of kids culture was that canal boats are nice and that nice people live on them. And I started finding that some of these boats would have these little Rag Dolls in there, or it might have a Barbie Doll or Action Man, was thinking, what's going on there? ' 'The police put me in touch with a guy who was a profiler. And he said "Yeah, they are called INDICATORS". You got to know about indicators. The 'Action Man' will mean he is into boys, the 'Barbie Dolls' means girls. Go and get a warrant and search that boat. Well, I got no evidence. I have just given you the evidence. ' A brief look at the opening sequence for all 175 episodes. Production Company Logo

100% tart cherry juice. I've had gout several times and that is the only thing I found to work, 100% tart cherry juice (no other ingredients listed) and a lot of water.

Can Britain avert a civil war? https://davidicke.com/2025/10/19/can-britain-avert-a-civil-war/ Back in May, I created some upset with a piece entitled “Why mass deportations are a non-starter”. I wrote: One of the reasons mass deportations is a non-option is because the state will face major pushback on three fronts. You will recall a while back when a deportation operation in Glasgow was halted by a mob of leftists. I think we would see far larger coordinated efforts to frustrate any concentrated government action. Just from an optics and economics perspective, you can’t deploy full riot squads every time you detect an illegal immigrant. Then we should recall the Harehills riots last year when the entire community turned out to prevent the authorities taking a child into care. Deportations are a non-starter in majority ethnic areas. The third front is the media. If we set about a campaign of mass deportations, we will likely see a number of blunders the media will exploit, and the news will be wall to wall sob stories. The effect of this in mobilising popular opposition should not be underestimated. Images of families being dragged from their homes by uniformed men is too rich for the blood of the average normie. They might want something done about immigration, but the urge to virtue signal will soon assert itself and mass deportations will lose popular support. It’s just not the way to go about it. Dawn raids should mostly be reserved for terror suspects and criminals who are an imminent danger to the public. Six month on, and I stand by what I wrote. Britain is not ready for such a policy and it looks like Trump is reaching the limits of what is possible. As it happens, we’re able to see in realtime what such an approach looks like. America has stepped up its ICE raids in which have seen protests escalate into violent disorder. Anti-ICE radicals are using social media apps to dox, threaten, and terrorise ICE agents and their families. Just a couple of week ago, mobs were blockading ICE compounds and sabotaging vehicles. ICE is now deploying teargas against protestors and calling for National Guard back up. As yet, the National Guard can’t be deployed, as an appeals court ruled on Saturday. The decision to prevent the troops from protecting federal property or going on patrol comes after federal judge April Perry ruled on Thursday to temporarily block the national guard deployment for at least two weeks, finding no substantial evidence that a “danger of rebellion” is brewing in Illinois. This spectacle has not made for good headlines or good optics. It looks like the National guard will have to hold off for now. The left wing narrative is exactly what you’d expect. Some are comparing Trump to Hitler while others take the line that deploying the military for a civilian enforcement operation is a bridge too far. Of course, it’s not unprecedented for US troops to be deployed in times of unrest. During the Los Angeles riots in 1992, George H.W. Bush invoked the Insurrection Act, deploying about 4,000 Army and Marine Corps troops, alongside federalised National Guard units, to support local law enforcement. More recently, Donald Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act during the George Floyd protests, but did not formally do so. Active-duty troops (including the 82nd Airborne) were staged near Washington DC, and National Guard units were deployed in multiple states (over 40,000 Guard members across 34 states). In DC, Guard troops and federal law enforcement cleared protesters from Lafayette Square for a presidential photo-op. For Britain, though, it would be unprecedented. The only time in living memory the British Army was deployed in a civilian setting was during the Troubles. It’s not how we do things. To my mind, any attempt to mount ICE style deportation raids at scale would immediately blow up into widespread unrest, especially following operations in Molem areas. The police are simply not equipped for such a challenge to their authority. I take the view that if ever we were going to start a programme of mass forced removals then we’d be starting a low level civil war, and there’s be no way to bring it under control without deploying overwhelming force, likely calling on civilian reserves we lack the capacity to mobilise. As such, any suggestion that we should implement such a programme is for the birds, especially given how wet the media is and, how indoctrinated the average MP is. It does not become a realistic prospect without the situation becoming a magnitude worse than it is presently. I think, though, the time will eventually come. I think soft remigration measures are inevitable, but the culmination of decades of misrule will eventually come to a head, and unless something changes significantly, civil war seems unavoidable. We’re missing all the off-ramps to avoid one. As a bare minimum, a functioning country needs a common civic identity which is impossible when there are no controls on immigration and no demands placed on foreigners to integrate. Ultimately, when you leave sectarianism to fester for long enough, you reach a point where the choice is either remigration or civil war, and since the establishment would rather not have a contentious debate about remigration, we will sleepwalk to civil war. The second element is the absence of consent for what’s been done to us. Nobody asked the English if we consented to our ethnic replacement. Now that’s increasingly likely we’ll become a minority in our own homeland, more people than ever are deciding they will not passively accept it. People are beginning to recognise that racial collectivisation is their only guarantee of survival as Britain disintegrates. We should not forget that immigration is not the only pressure on Britain. We’re also seeing rapid deindustrialisation and there’s been no significant developments in energy to take the strain off the grid. Blackouts are still looming. Meanwhile, living conditions can only worsen, and the public mood sours year on year. I ever don’t recall seeing as many protests as we’ve seen in recent years, and I don’t see them remaining peaceful while Starmer is in charge. What seals our fate in my estimations, is the trajectory of British politics. The polls all suggest a thumping Reform victory in 2029. While we can take polls with a pinch of salt, it seems highly unlikely that Reform is capable of forming a functioning, viable government and will not be able to deliver the kind of change they promise. As much as anything, their “policies” often fall far short of what is necessary. We’ve already been through the mill of a popular Tory government that promised much and delivered nothing, and a repeat performance might well be enough to convince the public (once and for all) that voting is a sham. Once that sinks in, all bets are off. https://www.northernvariant.co.uk/p/can-britain-avert-a-civil-war?publication_id=2416978&r=popli

So much hassle for a third-rate European game that nobody would have given a toss about. Villa should have been in the CL this season anyway. Dodgy referee/VAR made sure they didn't qualify.

Yes, I posted about this yesterday: To clarify: stewards were told they didn't have to work that day if they had 'concerns', they weren't all given the night off. It's all turned into a bit of a shit-storm to be honest, and there are multiple ways of looking at this. I'm sure the majority of the visiting fans would be well-behaved, but that's not accounting for any of their 'hooligans' turning up with the intent of causing trouble. Whether the visiting fans are allowed to attend or not, I'm sure there's some 'Free Palestine' protest or march that has been organised already that will happen on the day of the match. And if Tommy Robinson is planning to be there, then you won't need any Israeli football hooligans to start 'kicking off', as he'll no doubt be bussing-in his own hooligan friends, and encouraging others to come along and join in. I'm glad I don't live in that part of Birmingham as no doubt it will be an appalling evening. Hopefully nothing serious happens though!

And that’s why they should be banned. A football match has the ingredients for something bad to go down. Can you imagine if they back down and allow the Israeli fans to attend and the police call in extra support….and then the bullring has a terror attack. It’s just after bonfire night so fireworks will be in the air adding to any confusion and there will probably be plenty of national flags and military remembrance stuff up for the Remembrance Day parade just 3 days after. Add to that you’ll probably get thousands of pro Palestine protestors turn up. And Tommy Robinson. Stick all that in a pot and give it a stir and you’ll find at the best case scenario everyone will be served with a shit stew.

Chase Hughes has been slowly letting the cat out of the bag re psy-ops and government manipulation tactics for a while now.

If I’m playing devils advocate… This isn’t a situation exclusive to Jews or Israelis. I remember that Muslim chap with a hook for a hand who used to call for all kinds of violence against non believers of Islam. He was allowed to preach for years before finally sent down for something. You have these people protesting outside abortion clinics being arrested for praying. You have all kinds of trouble in northern island. USA. China and the Uyghurs. Israeli football fans might not be allowed to come to a football match. It’s not the first time fans have been banned. Liverpool were banned for years over Heysel. Russian teams have been banned full stop. Red Star fans have been banned for racist chanting. Now in all of these incidents the police and relevant sporting bodies have a choice to make. It’s not necessarily anti Scouse. Or anti semitic. Or islamaphobic. We saw it with the recent immigration protests. Police arresting small group of lefties or righties, probably on some loose public order act, just to get them out of the way. I don’t necessarily agree with it but I get it. And I feel the same way about people who turn up to Jewish funerals wearing Palestine flags. Yes, you may have the right, but if people (on both sides) keep looking for a reaction and wandering into the opposition court then we will all find our freedoms will be limited like David Icke soon. There will be new laws that state only one side of a protest can happen in a certain day etc - if at all. I remember years ago there was some religious group that turned up to funerals of homosexuals with banners like “burn in hell f*gs”. To me that not freedom of speech but freedom to be a tit. So yeah, and remember I’m playing devils advocate! But I just feel that all of these incidents are only helping more laws being passed to limit what we can say, do and wear.

Yep, I think your right. We're in a society now where they legislate every aspect of our lives with sometimes ludicrous rules. Last year I flooded my car driving through a deep puddle, when I spoke to an AA patrol later (got myself out of the flood) he said he would not have pulled me out because he, nor any AA driver, was qualified to 'enter water' Meanwhile a national security incident is not prosecuted due to some governmental action that nobody can pin point how it happened nor correct it now has. If we now go to our representative MP and give our grievances they no longer have to fo anything with it, it is the Party view that takes precedence and if you don't agree you are an enemy of National Renewal, enemy of progress and thus an enemy of the party. That makes you an enemy of the state if that party is the party in power. Digital ID came out of nowhere and suddenly its Global, with private data in controlled by private offshore companies. Our housing stock is being sold en mass to private offshore companies. Tax payer money funneled offshore to house council and private tenants. Our energy comes from foreign offshore companies. Our food comes from foreign companies. Our transport system is being staffed by immigrants. Our two tier legal system is officially an apartheid tool. Our Police and Government engage in Social Engineering by paying activists to attend protests or create protests that support the party view. Arrests are misreported to support the government view. There were 26 arrests, they are thugs, but the reality is most of those arrested were the government paid activists. But it doesn't matter, the Police report 26 arrests, the media report it, the government claim its proof the protesters are thugs. Our education system has been dumbed down and largely ruined so all that is left are struggling or failing schools that teach the government curriculum. Our High St shops are 'offshoring' to compete and make profit. Virtually all our services are outsourced, council workers, road workers, the government and council IT systems are outsourced and I know at one point it was to Capita a French company. Parts of our military are outsourced to offshore hedge funds. All it needs is a global financial crash or civil disorder for government to seize emergency powers, the corporations already have control of all industries, when they have control of our lives through Digital ID and Digital Currency, we're fucked.

Jacob Rees-Mogg says it was so undignified of Starmer to try to make a speech then waddle back to his place after Trump turned his back on him.

Yikes! But you’re right, I think once you do some digging into the official narrative facts and figures you can come to a very different conclusion that they want. And you end up being ridiculed or silenced. Nothing quite like the Covid joke though. At least with the holocaust or renewable energy they try to muddy the water. Covid was a farce. I’m still amazed people fell for that.

The ancient Egyptians practised magic and snakes were an important symbol too. They represented both protection and authority on the positive side; and chaos on the negative. Pharaohs had a model cobra on their crowns. So it feeds into the theory that Moses was an Egyptian priest and magician possibly connected with Akhenaten the monotheist Pharaoh (Freud believed this) although it's just one theory. https://chriswilsonstudio.com/snakes-in-egyptian-mythology/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten#Speculative_theories You're right about a connection with the Buddha too, in the story there's a snake (naga) called Mucalinda who appeared, to protect Gautama Buddha from a storm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucilinda Snakes appear in a lot of mythologies, tho I've not come across them being compared with angels. But it could be a link there too.

There's a crazy article on that fact-checking site about Ukrainian anti-vaxx chat groups from 2021. "The anti-vaccination movement in Ukraine uses a non-transparent messenger for coordination. Since the beginning of the pandemic, more than 3 million COVID-19 cases have been registered in Ukraine, and more than 75 thousand Ukrainians have died from the coronavirus. As of November 11, Ukraine is a global COVID-19 hotspot. Each day for the last two weeks, the country recorded an average of 22,085 new COVID-19 cases and an average of 711 coronavirus-related deaths. This means that 51 people per 100,000 in Ukraine are dying from COVID-19 each day. At the same time, Ukraine’s vaccination campaign has struggled to gain steam. Up to June 2021, less than a million people per month were receiving jabs. Starting in July, the pace of vaccination increased, though only slowly. Only in October, when Ukraine’s government started introducing the so-called “red zone” restrictions for unvaccinated people in many regions, did the pace of vaccination start to really spike, with a twofold increase compared to September. Nevertheless, as of November 11, only around 20% of the country’s population has been fully vaccinated." https://www.stopfake.org/en/chat-groups-against-vaccines-ukrainian-anti-vaxers-coordinate-activities-in-viber-groups/ Just when the Ukrainians thought they'd dodged the deadly covid vaccines, Boris came along and forced them to be cannon fodder in a proxy war. The fact checkers show a screen shot of a post which links to a youtube video called 'The Mysterious Watchmakers' Conspiracy' and it shows David Icke in the video. I found a short video on youtube with exactly the same name in Russian but David Icke is nowhere to be seen in it.

STOP DIGI-ID! #PiersCorbyn at the STOP DIGI-ID march 18th Oct speaks outside Downing Street. He explains DIGital-ID is about control and that while we are fighting a future DIGI-ID law they are trying to impose the system via "GOV.UK One Login". He says the key things to do are: 1. Do local campaigns of Explanation about Digi-Id; USE the great new leaflet. Info via** 2. Direct Resistance especially #KeepCash actions. 3. Oppose Digi- with- Rights campaigns which are from ControlledOpp groups (eg #together) to help get Digi-Id in, then the Rights will be removed. 4. **Join telegram STOP DIGI-ID UNITED!

THE PYRAMID IS LIKELY A REPRESENTATION OF THE SATURN POLAR CONFIGURATION How has such a simple and straightforward symbol — an Eye within a Triangle — become a lightning rod for conspiracy theroists? The Eye in a Triangle is seen everywhere: From movies, music videos, paintings, and architecture, to corporate logos, political insignias, and even popular fashion — it’s a timeless symbol, but where does it orignate and what does it actually mean? The Eye in a Triangle is most obviously seen on the reverse of the American dollar bill and was designated by its creators as the Eye of Providence. The origin of the Eye or Providence remains undocumented, but comparative analysis of analogous symbols and the writings of 17th-century authors suggests that its conceptual roots extend to the Greek classical tradition (as suggested in the article ‘The Eye of Providence and the Hamsa in Medicine’, by Jonathan Kopel, PhD). From these origins, the symbol appears to have been transmitted through the esoteric currents of Kabbalah, Rosicrucianism, and ultimately Freemasonry. The idea of a disembodied Eye as a symbol dates back to ancient Egypt, where it appeared as the Eye of Horus, 𓂀. The Eye of Providence — simply called by most people the All-Seeing-Eye — has most famously been incorporated into the architecture of The Great Seal of the American dollar bill. Fixed in a triangle, the disembodied eye is surrounded by rays of light and rests upon an unfinished pyramid. This All-Seeing-Eye represents an ethereal and amorphous higher power, watching over mankind which gives it a somewhat sinister feeling. Michael Glenn Maness (2010) supports this interpretation of God’s omnipresent watchfulness: “There’s little doubt about the Freemasonry origins of the symbolism of the All-Seeing Eye. In a triangle, it symbolizes God’s omnipotence, omnipresence, and omniscience” (source). Thomas Aquinas (13th-century) says: “The eye signifies knowledge; the all-seeing eye denotes the divine omniscience by which God knows all things” (‘Summa Theologica’, paraphrased from his discussion on divine knowledge). Regarding the idea that the All-Seeing-Eye stands for God, in his 1874 book ‘Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry’, Freemason and medical doctor Albert Gallatin Mackey explains: “The All-Seeing-Eye: An important symbol of the Supreme Being, borrowed by the Freemasons. The open eye was selected as the symbol of watchfulness, and the eye of God as the symbol of Divine watchfulness and care of the universe”. Freemason Albert Pike wrote in his 1871 book ‘Morals and Dogma’ that the All-Seeing-Eye was seen as an emblem of Osiris, stating that: “The Blazing Star has been regarded as an emblem of Omniscience, or the All-seeing-Eye, which to the Egyptian Initiates was the emblem of Osiris”. In Hinduism, the god Shiva is usually depicted with an “All-Seeing-Eye” on his head. This All-Seeing-Eye was called the “eye of Shiva”, and is considered the seat of omniscience. Early examples of the modern All-Seeing-Eye appear on medals and coins, including those of Charles II and William III, where the Eye within a Triangle closely resembles the Great Seal. In some cases, the Triangle contains the Hebrew letter Yod repeated three times, referencing the Tetragrammaton, emphasizing the symbol’s divine connotation. This dual representation, the Eye and the triple Yod, was widely recognized in German literature as the “Auge Gottes”, meaning the “Eye of God”. Christ is regarded by many Christians as being God. The Nicene Creed — a foundational declaration of Christian doctrine — says that Christ is “God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God”. This understanding is significant when considering interpretations of the All-Seeing-Eye as a representation of God, since some traditions likewise associate the symbol with Christ Himself. The major English theologian John Owen (1616–1683) talks about the “all-seeing eye of Jesus Christ” (see the 1869 book ‘The Works of John Owen’) while another text from 1657 (from the book ‘An Exposition of the Gospel’, by George Hutcheson) states: “Christ’s all-seeing eye is an infallible proof of his godhead”. The 1525 painting “Supper at Emmaus” (Cena in Emmaus) by Jacopo Pontormo below shows Christ accompanied by the All-Seeing-Eye, suggesting a shared relationship. The most famous All-Seeing-Eye in fiction is the Eye of Sauron from The Lord of the Rings. The idea that The Lord of the Rings, J.R.R. Tolkien’s epic novel (1955) and its movie adaptation by Peter Jackson (2001), could be a nod to Saturn, the ringed planet, has been suggested by some. Saturn, known for its prominent rings, has long been associated with time, restriction, and cosmic order in astrology and mythology — attributes that can be metaphorically linked to elements in The Lord of the Rings, particularly the One Ring and the character of Sauron. Sauron’s alternative name is “Annatar” and we see that equals 69 in Gematria, the same as Saturn. The antagonist, Sauron, sounds phonetically like “Saturn”, and his tower in the movie capped by an All-Seeing-Eye is reminiscent of the tower speculated by David Talbott in his 1980 book ‘The Saturn Myth’ in which he postulates that Saturn once was connected to a ladder or tower to the skies, and beneath Saturn was a crescent of light and above the crescent was what he describes as an “All-Seeing-Eye” that was created by a planetary formation. David Talbott analyzed myths from ancient cultures around the world and found that they all described the same phenomenon surrounding the planet Saturn. He found that symbolism for Saturn is the same throughout ancient Mesopotamia, India, Greece, the Americas, and Egypt, and as documented by ancient cultures, explains how there was once a celestial alignment involving Saturn that occurred thousands of years ago. During this time of celestial upheaval, Saturn and the other bodies that were aligned with it went through various arrangements in the sky (seen in the YouTube documentary ‘Discourses on an Alien Sky’) and at one point the light from Venus behind Mars formed what appeared to be a pupil inside a triangle that Talbott associates with the All-Seeing-Eye. Talbott designates this celestial alignment as the “Saturn Polar Configuration” (SPC). The video below illustrates how the SPC may have appeared during this cosmic arrangement. In ‘The Saturn Myth’, Talbott associates the SPC with a gate or portal, saying: “The god “comes out” and “goes in” on the [Saturnian] mountaintop through the “gate”, but he accomplishes this without moving from his fixed abode”. How the SPC might have looked: A short clip from David Talbott’s documentary below: The hexagram (Solomon Seal) is made up of equilateral triangles, with one pointing up, symbolizing Male, and the other pointing down, symbolizing Female, and sometimes has the All-Seeing-Eye within it as seen on Masonic Tracing Boards. It was worshipped in India as the symbol of the Union between Shiva and Kali and it’s found in the cosmological diagrams within Buddhism. The hexagram is used in Freemasonry. According to Albert Mackey, in the book ‘Encyclopedia of Freemasonry’: “The interlacing triangles of the hexagram symbolize a union of two principles or forces, the active and passive, male and female, pervading the universe”. The oldest known appearance of the hexagram can be seen in the Sumerian Cylinder Seal here dating back 4,500 years. The hexagram is also a hermaphroditic symbol, with the Female symbol and Male symbol intertwined, symbolizing Divine Union. Some have also associated the hexagram with the Orion constellation, which in its basic form is composed of two interconnected triangles, as shown here. The symbol is also concealed in the American dollar bill and so it clearly has great importance. The hexagram is associated with Saturn because the planet has a hexagon on its pole (a hexagon sits inside a hexagram). There are various articles online (from NASA no less) where they call the storm on Saturn’s pole, an “Eye”, and some suggest the planet Saturn is where the All-Seeing-Eye originated. There are some correlations and divergences between Christ and Saturn. One such correlation is the fact that in ancient times the Romans celebrated Saturn with a festival called Saturnalia in late December which is what we still do today — but the celebration of Christ has now taken the place of Saturn. In his 1896 book ‘The Messiah-ideal’, the American author Maurice Fluegel highlights that December 25th, originally associated with festivals like Saturnalia and the birth of deities like Apollo and Horus, was later adopted as the birthday of Jesus. He argues that Saturn’s relationship to Jesus is one of symbolic substitution, where Christian practices replaced pagan traditions, with Jesus taking the place of deities like Saturn in religious celebrations such as those on December 25th. One could interpret the modern Jesus as a repackaged version of deities like Horus, Osiris, Mithra, Apollo, or Saturn. In occult and esoteric literature, the All-Seeing-Eye is sometimes depicted as a gateway or portal leading somewhere. In the following quote, Manly Palmer Hall interprets it as a “gate to the eternal”, saying: “The Eye of Horus, the great symbol of divine watchfulness, represents the opened spiritual consciousness of man, through which he perceives the mysteries of the universe. It’s the gate to the eternal, the light that pierces the veil of illusion”. In his 2004 book ‘The Ark of Millions of Years’, physicist Alexander Agnew, who has published thousands of technical papers, says: “The portal into Heaven is marked by the All-Seeing-Eye”. Meanwhile, published author Wes Annac states: “The All-Seeing-Eye represents a gateway to other realms”. The Jesuit scholar Athanasius Kircher, in his 1679 book Turris Babel, explicitly links the Tower of Babel to the All-Seeing-Eye. The frontispiece illustration (engraved by Gérard de Lairesse) shows Nimrod planning the tower while an All-Seeing-Eye hovers over the tower, suggesting a connection. Some esoteric authors have suggested that the All-Seeing-Eye and pyramid on the American dollar bill is a representation of the Tower of Babel. In Biblical tradition, the Tower of Babel was constructed under the direction of Nimrod, who sought to build a massive tower “that reaches unto Heaven”, in an act of defiance. According to researcher Jim Cornwell: “The pyramid on the Great Seal represents the unfinished Tower of Babel”. Meanwhile, in his book ‘Antichrist Osiris’, Chris Relitz, writes: “The unfinished pyramid seen on the American dollar bill might be a reference to the Tower of Babel”. Alexander Slade describes how Freemasons built the Tower of Babel. The Gateway of God was supposedly represented by an 8-spoked symbol, known colloquially as the “Cross of the Ilu” which is similar to the 8-spoked arrangement of the SPC that David Talbott associates with the Tower of Babel. In Masonic symbolism, the All-Seeing-Eye is depicted alongside an 8-pointed star (as shown here), implying a symbolic correspondence. Talbott suggests in various documentaries how the SPC variously took on the forms of an Eye inside a Triangle, a hexagram, a pentagram, and an 8-pointed star. Leonardo da Vinci’s Annunciation (1472–1475) depicts the Biblical scene in which the Archangel Gabriel announces to the Virgin Mary that she will conceive the Son of God (as shown below). Leonardo balances the figures within a serene landscape, combining divine symbolism with human realism. Pay particular attention to the two trees with a mountain between them two a triangle at the top separated by the clouds. These two trees resemble pillars and similar to the two pillars in Freemasonry which are depicted with a mountain or pillar between them. The two pillars originated from the Egyptian symbol “Akhet” which was based on the SPC. The SPC formed a luminous crescent which became anthropomorphized and morphed into things, such as the arms of the heaven-sustaining giant Atlas, the outstretched wings of the mother goddess (or winged god) Isis, or the pillars Jachin and Boaz. The triangle separated by the clouds here is an allusion to the All-Seeing-Eye or Blazing Star. The flowers depicted in the foreground are generally seen as Madonna lilies (Lilium candidum). In ancient Roman culture, lilies (Lilium candidum) were associated with Venus. According to myth, lilies supposedly sprang from the milk of Hera (or Juno, her Roman counterpart), and when Venus saw their beauty — she grew jealous and caused a pistil to rise from the center of the flower — symbolizing erotic desire. The seashell is also seen in the painting. The seashell, particularly the scallop shell, is probably one of the most enduring symbols of Venus (Aphrodite). In the painting, the seashell of Venus also appears to have a crescent resembling a beard. Venus Barbata which means ‘Bearded Venus’ was an epithet of the goddess Venus among the Romans. The idea of a Bearded Venus is an astronomical metaphor. David Talbott describes that when Saturn, Venus, and Mars descended and aligned over Earth (during the SPC), a crescent of light formed under Saturn and Venus. The Beard of Venus comes from the crescent of light under Venus which became anthropomorphized into a beard on the goddess Venus, and thus this is where the Roman name “Venus Barbata” probably orignates. In his 1888 book ‘Are Not Hindus Christians?’, Pulney Andy says: “God is represented as the All-Seeing-Eye. This Eye is called Nettikkan (நெற்றிக்கண்) or Gnánakkan (ஞானக்கண்) in indication of his being the Sarvagnan, the omniscient. You will find in the first Rik of the Purusha Sukta that God is represented there, with reference to this phase of his nature, as the Saharshakshá (thousand-eyed), not that he really possesses a thousand eyes, but to convey in a concrete and tangible form the idea of all-seeing”. The Egyptian god Osiris was known by the name “Hysiris”, which means “many-eyed”. This is compared somewhat to Mithra’s association with term “Baevara-Chashmana”, meaning “a thousand-eyed”, emphasizing both deities as all-seeing, omnipresent beings. Osiris was linked with the Eyptian Ankh which represented eternal life. The symbol of the Ankh is usually accompanied by symbolism of the All-Seeing-Eye. It was based on the SPC, as Talbott explains in ‘The Saturn Myth’, saying: “The Ankh (whose origins experts have endlessly debated) is but a conventionalized image of the [Saturn] Polar Configuration”. In his book ‘Secret Societies: Revelations About Freemasons’, well-known author Philip Gardiner explains that the Ankh was seen as a gateway or portal into a higher dimension. Quote: “The Ankh is well-known as the Crux Ansata. It’s a simple T-cross, surmounted by an oval, called the Ru. The Ru is seen as a gateway or portal to another dimension — such as Heaven. The Ankh therefore becomes the symbol of transition from one place to another. It outlived Egyptian domination and was widely used by the Christians as the [Latin] Cross”. The astrological symbol for Venus () is the same as the Ankh, suggesting a connection. David Talbott argues that Venus was the radiating star in the SPC. In certain esoteric or mystical interpretations, the “G” has been linked to Venus. In his 1854 book ‘Transcendental Magic’ the famous occultist Éliphas Lévi corresponds the letter G to Venus. This is relevant, because the letter G is used interchangeably with the Blazing Star and All-Seeing-Eye. Venus, thus, could be the All-Seeing-Eye. In fact, this is something that Walter Pater (an English essayist and one of the central figures of the Aesthetic Movement in late 19th-century Britain) suggests, where he talks about the “all-seeing eye of Venus” in his 1885 book. In Masonic symbolism, the All-Seeing Eye is occasionally depicted within a pentagram — sometimes substituted or associated with the letter G or the number 33, all bearing symbolic importance within Masonic tradition. In this context, the pentagram might be seen as a symbolic substitute for the All-Seeing-Eye. In the YouTube documentary ‘Discourses on an Alien Sky’, David Talbott associates the pentagram with the celestial arrangement of Saturn, Venus, and Mars (during the SPC). The pentagram is associated with Venus in occult circles. When observed from Earth, Venus traces a pentagram across the sky every 8 years making a pattern of a rose (as shown below). This is known as the “Rose of Venus” or the “Pentagram of Venus”. The pentagram was used in ancient times as a Christian symbol for the five senses, or of the 5 wounds of Christ. Wikipedia notes that early pentagrams have been found on Sumerian pottery from 3,500 BCE, and the 5-pointed star was at various times the symbol of Ishtar or Marduk (see Wikipedia’s “Pentagram” page). Ishtar was also known as Inanna and Sophia and was seen as the embodiment of Venus. Marduk was the chief god of Babylon, revered as the supreme god who became the central figure of the Babylonian pantheon. Mircea Eliade (1907–1986) was a Romanian historian of religion, philosopher, and author. Eliade interpets Marduk as a “dying and rising god” (see the book ‘Hermeneutics, Politics, and the History of Religions,’ by Christian Wedemeyer). Christ, likewise, was considered dying and rising. Various scholars have linked the pentagarm to Venus. In this foundational Renaissance grimoire ‘De Occulta Philosophia Libri Tres’ (1533), Heinrich Cornelius Agrippa describes the pentagram as a symbol of Venus, associating it with the planet’s astrological and magical properties. He illustrates human figures inscribed in pentagrams, linking it to Venusian harmony and the 5 elements. The letter G is also placed inside the pentagram in Masonic representations of the Blazing Star (All-Seeing-Eye) and likewise associated with Venus. Lévi tells us that the letter G stands for the planet Venus: “The Pentagram should be engraved invariably upon one side of the talisman, with a circle for the Sun, a crescent for the Moon, a sword for Mars, a G for Venus”. Rather than interpreting the All-Seeing-Eye as a celestial body like the Blazing Star or Venus — as some have done — Manly Palmer Hall regarded it as a symbolic representation of the pineal gland. The pineal gland, a small cone-shaped organ approximately 10 millimeters in length, occupies a central position within the human brain. The term pineal derives from the Latin pineus, meaning “of or pertaining to the pine”, an allusion to the gland’s resemblance to a pinecone. An intriguing paper titled ‘The Eye of Horus: The Connection Between Art, Medicine, and Mythology in Ancient Egypt’, published in the National Library of Medicine, establishes an association between the All-Seeing-Eye and the anatomy of the human brain. The brain region surrounding the pineal gland exhibits an astonishing resemblance to the Eye of Horus (as shown below). Some theorists have proposed that by basing the Eye of Horus on the part of the brain containing the pineal gland — the ancient Egyptians were symbolically expressing the notion of a concealed mental or spiritual power within this gland. In his 1932 book ‘The Pineal Gland: The Eye of God’, Hall states: “The “All-Seeing-Eye” of the Masonic Brethren; the “Eye Single” of the Scriptures by which the body is filled with light; the “One Eye” of Odin which enabled him to know all the Mysteries; the “Eye of Horus” which at some point Typhon swallows up; the “Eye of the Lord” which, as Boehme says, “beholds all”; all of these then, are allusions to that primative organ [this “organ” as the pineal gland]”. Hall goes on to imply that the pineal gland is a crucial component of the Kundalini enlightenment in Hinduism where ascending endocrine glands along the human spinal column can reach the brain: “In occultism the pineal gland is regarded as a link between the objective and subjective states of consciousness; or the visible and invisible worlds of Nature. Unawakened by Kundalini, the pineal gland is kama-manas — the animal mind — but when tinctured by the spiritual light, it becomes buddhi-manas — the divine mind”. It’s possible that the All-Seeing-Eye could well both be represented by something celestial like Saturn, Venus, or even Sirius, and also something contained within the body that elevates consciousness (i.e., the pineal gland). EYE OF HORUS SEEN AS AN AREA OF THR BRAIN The idea that the All-Seeing-Eye could exist simultaneously as something celestial like Saturn, Venus, or even Sirius (see Albert Pike) while at the same time alluding to something spiritual within ourselves, like the pineal gland, is evidenced by the fact that the symbol for the Great Work or Magnum Opus, which is about elevating oneself spiritually and evolving one’s consciousness, corresponds to the symbol of the SPC (as shown above). The symbol is essentially a circle within a triangle which is how the All-Seeing-Eye and SPC is represented. The Great Work (Latin: Magnum Opus) is a term used in Hermeticism and occult traditions descended from it, such as Thelema. Accomplishing the Magnum Opus, symbolized as the creation of the Philosopher’s Stone, represents the culmination of the spiritual path, the attainment of enlightenment, or the rescue of the human soul from the unconscious forces which bind it. In his book ‘The Saturn Myth’, David Talbott associates the SPC to Adam Kadmon, who represented the Magnum Opus in occult traditions. Adam Kadmon represents the latent spiritual potential within man. Tallbott also links the SPC to the Chinese Yin-Yang, which is about uniting dark and light. This is a somewhat similar idea as talked about by Aleister Crowley regarding the Hermetic and Gnostic Great Work, where he says that true divine consciousness is achieved by uniting the dark with the light or the macrocosm (as representing Earth) with the microcosm (as representing Heaven). This Yin-Yang concept of light and dark coexisting is also encapsulated in Jung’s concept of individuation, whereby light and dark aspects of one’s mind are incorporated and coexist. To bring this article to a conclusion, the All-Seeing-Eye endures as one of mankind’s most profound symbols. Across civilizations — from ancient Egypt to Vedic India, from Masonic lodges to modern currency — it has represented divine omniscience, cosmic order, and spiritual awakening. Whether viewed as a celestial phenomenon, the pineal gland organ, or an emblem of enlightenment, the All-Seeing-Eye serves as a bridge between the material and the metaphysical, the human and the divine, the light and dark.

All it will achieve will be to make it harder for "Brits" to work legally, tanking the economy, whilst the black market will doubtless continue to thrive. Illegal immigration is a racket and one which the authorities seem to turn a blind eye to - digital ID won't change that.

And huge amount water to cool it I think? & why there is a policy of building many mini nuke reactors too with no real public concerns voiced it seems? But the need is unbalanced it seems to be for total control whereas freedom - creativity is the balance is consciousness awareness spirit which should be natural welling up from within

I'm gonna tell you a story. I've told it before, I'll tell it again. 25 years ago I had a temp summer job in between my degree and starting my Masters, I was a data input clerk for a large pharmaceutical. A guy I was working with was an 'old money' type of person, Oxford educated, went to work for Sony and was in charge of Betamax release in Europe, quite successful at what he did. He was recruited by an intelligence service and did various jobs for them. As a business man, it was mainly befriending certain individuals to bring them under control. So if he noticed the person of interest liked planes, he would source blueprints of planes, he may offer to get the children into Private UK school, etc etc. Reel them in, make them dependant, then extract information. He was asked to set up a deal with the Palestinian's. Back in the 80's they discovered a huge oil and gas reserves that was off the coast and would belong to the Palestinian's. The idea was, make them ware and offer the reserves to the Palestinians as a means to bring them to the table for peace talks. The Kennedy family was involved. Well, the political wind changed, he was recalled, sensing something was up, he sent his secretary on a different flight ahead of himself and she took all the documentation through. When he arrived at Heathrow, he was arrested, interrogated, but not having any evidence on him, they had to let him go. They were trying to charge him with helping the enemy. So, they blacklisted him, he was unable to work after that, could only get Temp jobs from agencies like the one employing us. The point is, once again, there was a chance for peace, but either oil interests or political interests from the West, ruined it. This sort of thing has happened time and time again during this conflict. The Palestinians and Muslims at large see these deceptions, betrayals and corruption. They've come to learn they cannot trust the west. Enter the extremists. Because when you live in poverty, in fear, with corruption, in the end, the people will be driven to extremist ideology. We see it in Israel, their have been moderate leaders in Israel, but as the missiles continued to be fired on Israel, more and more people call for something to be done. Enter the extremists. They get a voice, people look at what they thought was radical as being necessary to combat the threat. We've seen a similar thing here, people becoming uneasy about immigration, they don't get listened to, the situation deteriorates and eventually the extremists step in and say they have the solution, they take control of the movement and start burning property. Now they have become exactly what they accuse the immigrants of being. The movement gets put down, blamed on extremists and everything carries on as normal. In Ireland we've seen protests by ordinary people, hijacked by extremists and Starmers reaction 'I support the Police to establish law and order and condemn the extremists' something like that he said. No mention of the protest, no listening to the voices, it can be ignored and blamed on extremists Problem, reaction, solution. I posted about Syriana, the review on that film asks 'can it really be as bad as that, as corrupt as that?' Well I think the answer is yes, because from my personal experience, there has been several times when peace was achievable and from what little I know, everytime its been the west, representing military, political or oil interests that have screwed up the opportunity. Israel is facing the consequences of the West f*cking around, disrupting peace process, encouraging and funding extremists that have created this mess, with Israel firmly in the middle and taking the consequence, and Muslim nations driven to extreme groups, Israel becoming more hardline and breaking international law with settlements, which again, fuels the fire for extremists. I understand how we got here, but now we're here, we're in a very dangerous time. If this extremism wins, Hamas takes Israel, they will look to make a Middle East alliance, a greater caliphate and then they will start aggressively demanding Muslims in Western countries be allowed to live as Muslims under sharia law. We will see more oppression, violence, intolerance and injustice than we have ever seen before. Because they will say we deserve it, after the way we treated them. They will argue our system has been proven to be corrupt and dishonest, and only extreme Islam can put the world to rights. If Israel falls, the world is f*cked.

Yeah, that was Grace. The source material's quite old, early 00s, but interesting timing to screen the televised adaptation....as it's coming up to the end of the season with loads of finals and big games at Wembley etc. Anniversary of HIllsborough must be soon too. Was an FA Cup semi final game.

I was visiting some reletives last week and in the background on their brainwashing broadcast device (TV set) was a "program" featuring some incident at a football stadia. I think the show was called vera or grace. Definatly an old womans name. I didn't catch the story line as we were chatting, not really watching, but im guessing some fucker wanted to blow the place up and the hero coppers stopped it last minute. Blatent pre programming the masses for an event. Not the first either, an episode of cracker where some football related shit goes down, it's obviously their wet dream, they've done a few concerts now so next up is sport. question is which team will the5 choose?

Banned from Europe and Australia. Demonised. Mocked. With his back straight, chin up and almost supernatural courage, DAVID ICKE has been doing in-depth research into spirituality, conspiracy theories and metaphysical sciences for more than 35 years. His work is about who we really are, what the reality is in which we live and who pulls the strings behind the scenes of the world stage. In the film PERSONA NON GRATA, filmmaker Christianne van Wijk investigates the paradox of David’s infamous image and his real message. A MUST-SEE for anyone who wants to understand what is at stake in a period when censorship is reaching Orwellian proportions. It is high time that the spiritual truth comes to the surface. Hear from those who have already watched… “A fabulous documentary, it has been awaited with great anticipation and did not disappoint. Thank you so much!!!” (Louise, Ickonic Member) “Brillant video. Well made. We are all behind you.” (Richard, Ickonic Member) “All I can say David is thank you for having the courage and strength to always speak not just your truth but the truth!”

How quick they are to tag us with a label. Once you're tagged as a racist, homophobic, or some other such nomenclature, it's curtains. It doesn't matter what you say in the future, you'll always be what they claim you are. I don't think Icke is an anti-Semite at all but his opponents have shouted it for long enough now that the perception of many people is that he is. Believe me, being labelled as a racist or something similar can destroy your life. I was accused of being a racist many years ago for saying disparaging comments about a football player. I didn't think he was any good but on the forum I was on, it was decided that I didn't like the colour of his skin. After that, it was a pile on and had I not been an anonymous user of the forum, who knows where it might have gone. Now that's penny-ante stuff compared to what Icke has gone through. I am glad he has stood firm and people can see the agenda against him but even so, such is the power of his accusers that nobody will come to his defence.

I agree. It's a shame. I like Germany. I have always had a good time whenever I visited, and the people were always very friendly to me. They have a good sense of humor very similar to the English. It's sad to see they have let the tyranny go so far. Though they are beginning to push back. And the problem with Holocaust denial is what exactly is denial. If I say, 'you know what I don't think 6 million Jews were killed. I think it was more like 600,000'. Is that denial? What if I say 3 million? 5 million? 5,999,999? Can I be jailed for that opinion? What if my opinion is completely in good faith, but I got the facts wrong? Mistranslated a document. Easy to do. Just like David Icke is the canary in the coal mine, so is Holocaust denial. Get away with that and then the tyrants can start censoring other unwelcome views. Such as saying I think Islam is a violent religion. See what you've made me do? I won't be allowed in England now. As you know, the reason they slipped this through Germany and Austria first is that they could prey on people's guilt.

Which, in Germany, could get you banged up.

Clearly David isn't an antisemite, but so what if he was. As long as one doesn't call for violence one should be free to dislike any race or religion they desire. Personally, I think doing so is idiotic. But if that's your bag, you should be free to pursue your passion. Regarding Holocaust denial, the concept is absurd. Anyone should be free to ask questions or cast doubt about any historical event. My claim that the Olmecs never existed is as equally legitimate as pointing out that the gas chambers at Auschwitz were built by the Polish government after the war to thrill the tourists. Though I wonder which one people would get upset by. And by drawing people's attention to the construction date of the gas chambers I could be accused of denying the Holocaust.