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2009 although things were pretty dark people seemed more human. 2010 -11-12 onwards the social media starting becoming more popular it was the death of the wild west of internet this afternoon 2014 onwards. Before then people could say pretty much anything on the internet and you didn't take it seriously. It didn't help you get all the dumb celebrities on what was then Facebook insta Twitter etc and then getting offended like it's real life. Even though things were vapid and on a dark trajectory in the 2000s, it was much nicer time. Although there is a theory that we were put into a different timeline from 2001 onwards after 9/11. There is something extremely dark about the current humans. Another interesting theory and it definitely isn't one of my theories but something that I find deeply interesting is we've gone from an analog world to a digital world. The universe is supposedly analog, digital is alien. I don't know the technicalities behind it as I haven't researched it but apparently digital is alien to humans whilst analog isn't. Also what you can't deny is the decay of innocence in people. Hyper sexualisation. Now I'm not some purest who thinks sex is bad or whatever it's why we are here. But sex is everywhere. Some girls! And women walk around and sometimes it looks like they are wearing nothing but underwear. I know this isn't nessesarily new, but whoredom is being promoted on the white Europeans in particular. And then they wonder why people arent turned on by lingerie anymore. Hyper normalisation of sexuality. In my opinion eventually you get a society full of peadophilia, necrophilia, and beastility and other forms of perversion. It's really not good.

A few other major factors have come into play which have reduced activity on the David Icke forums: 1. The 'Overton window' was successfully shifted. Thanks to the David Icke forums, and others, the acceptable range of public discourse has widened to the point where you can freely discuss topics like the Aldenham School Royal Rape Library on low-vibration platforms like 'X' (formerly Twitter). Boundary pushing on the David Icke forum allowed this to happen and has opened the floodgates on multiple other platforms. This means way-fewer exiled-users are funneled onto here. 2. Real life conversation now openly embraces formerly-taboo esoteric topics: In most public spaces these days I am able to find multiple people who are open to discussing the Deep State; the Covid Fraud; and even blood-line overlords. In other words: there is less reason to seek similar-minded freedom-fighters on the David Icke forums. Society has caught up with these forums and you can find them on the street. 3. A growing global awareness that 'news' is propaganda and therefore dead: Following this awareness comes the awareness that any discussion of alleged 'news', even the motive is to supply a counter-narrative, inadvertently legitimizes the propaganda. The only way to win is not to play at all. The result? Less 'news' discussion on this forum. 4. Dead Internet bot-farm apocalypse: Most of the people we debate with on internet forums do not exist. They are AI-bots. They push opinions which are programmatically controlled to spread fear, confusion and division. Who wants to interact in forum-spaces where increasing numbers of users are inevitably not real? If I wanted to do that, I would sign up to Reddit. 5. Everything that needs to be said has already been said: At this point, if a person reads the content already on this forum; and reads David Icke's books; and reads freely-available, occult-meta-analysis studies like Anti Ultra by The Castalia Foundation etc. Then there really is nothing more to say. Who, at this point in the game, has not figured out that global governments are kompromat-based pedophile-rings practicing delusional occult-rituals? Many citizens who have figured this out have simply stopped using the legacy-internet. As a result, we are mostly left with an online-space polluted by the naive-minority who have not figured this out, and AI-bot farms (again, spend some time on Reddit to see this terminal-decline writ large). Who wants to have a conversation with that demographic? Hence, the forums are quiet. Consider viewing this drop in meaningful-activity on the David Icke forums not as a failure, but as a sign of victory. Your esoteric expertise became mainstream. We did it :)

Well I’m a fairly newcomer to this forum. Iv been a fan of Icke for decades but I used to only watch stuff on YouTube or similar. The forum I used to like was ATS. It was a mixture of great posters and ridiculous ones but I had quite a good time over the years on there. The 9/11 stuff was great and alien content. But alas. I have noticed this forum has some very quiet days. But I really like and enjoy the threads from certain members. The Covid thread that’s a million or so pages long is awesome. I guess, unless there’s a news event or some update, there isn’t much to be said that hasn’t already been said. The new ID card story has got a reason for people to talk again… I dunno. I’d love to be able to walk into a bar and say “hey, anyone wanna have a game of darts and discuss the Covid scam? Or any other conspiracy?” But I’m crap at darts so don’t want to embarrass myself.

I did wonder if whoever is pulling Stamers's strings has realised he is increasingly unpopular and wants to put a few things in place (like this and the Chief of Staff reveal) that will force him to resign, so they can go forward with someone who most of the public will think is better (even if the agenda is actually the same).

Well, if the goverment wants me to have a phone that does apps, they'll have to buy it and pay the monthly fee. End of. I run my own business and I'm still going to work for it even though i'm retired. If it means I can't pay any tax without an ID, well, good.

In my opinion, Reddit is just another establishment controlled social platform, and is certainly a 'mainstream-approved' source of information. I admit I don't know a lot about the history or background of this platform, but it comes across to me as the "mother of all discussion forums" with all manner of topic categories covered. That was probably the original intention, to do away with the multitude of individual 'specialised' bulletin boards and forums that were all over the internet. I have used Reddit as a source of information for certain things I've been looking on the internet for, but I don't think I would ever sign up there and start actively participating - seems riddled with AI bots/helpers, and excessive amounts of spam/advertising. And due to its nature, browsing and navigating to topics of interest is a bit overwhelming. Very much correct, sadly. I remember the early days of social media, even Facebook used to be useful for keeping in touch with people and making new contacts. The turning point was when all these 'free' platforms turned into advertising vehicles. 'User content' was either the bits in between the adverts, or were just adverts themselves. I can scroll through Facebook now, and I hardly see any posts from people I know, its just all low-quality click-bait junk. But what Facebook did was create things called 'Groups'. These basically replaced 'internet discussion forums', but without having any 'topic structure', all you'd see in your feed was whatever was posted most recently. Now we have a "TikTok Generation", whose attention span has been reduced to near zero. What I like most about discussion forums, or even blog articles, is that I can sit and read them, at my own pace and at my own leisure. On social media, if you share written articles, most people only glance at the 'headline' - in my professional capacity, I get exasperated when I take the time to write up articles which I then share on social media, only to find in the comments there are people asking questions that are answered quite clearly in the article I have linked to! But this is a generation of people now for whom a video that is more than 30 seconds long is "boring". Then again, the whole thing with "podcasts" is something that bothers me - it's another substitution for 'reading at your own pace', and there are so many hundreds of hours of podcasts to listen to, where on earth in your day does anyone get time to listen to/watch them?

Absolutely spot on. It's essential that we keep our attention span up to scratch in this current age. I'm always listening to podcasts and forcing myself to read (it is enjoyable sometimes of course.)

I don’t see this place as dead. It’s great for news updates and seeing how people join the dots and link things in real time is interesting stuff. But like the poster said above, the old topics have no real space for discussion no as nothing has changed on that topic for 20, 30, 60 years. Though when things do open slightly, like the JFK files, it’s something new to sift through. Plus, regarding the AI bots, very true but another thing I have noticed, especially in YouTube, is the algorithm manipulation. Out of nowhere recently I have loads of 9/11 footage appearing and on one video I clicked on the comments and loads of people were asking the same… “why am I seeing this now…?” Anyway, I’m off to town to have my face scanned and try to manoeuvre past the homeless and drug addicts that seem to be multiplying.

We lost a few key members after the Covid sham...maybe a coincidence, but some decided it was time to just do something more about their lives than post on here, which is fair enough. Whatever they shared and contributed remains for others to read and discover. Also hard to know who is actually still around....other forums I've seen can have a icon or banner under the profile of someone who's passed away. But we also get less disruptors than in the old days....fuckin hell, it was a total cluster here a couple of years ago. But the stakes were higher, and the 77s and other agencies had more at stake.

They're a handy means of PTB knowing exactly who opposes their plans. Data harvesting heaven.

Good post . I go back to 25 years ago when I first got onto it and got told don't speak about ' that stuff ' if you want to be invited to our mates 30th next week. I kid you not ! I've distanced myself away from such folk ever since and quite naturally gravited towards more like minded folk. Still ... some of them ended up falling for the covid bollocks and I was even called a ' far right right loon ' when Iam not . That doesn't make me a leftie by the way as I tend to just observe from the middle and most of the thinking ( feeling ) what the fuck's going on here ? Beam us up Scotty lad ...

Not worth it mate. You will just get a smug comment or a laughing emoji with these types. Didn't the government do a similar data encroachment a few years ago not nearly as outrageous as this and they tried to make out if you were against it you were pro child abuse or some twisted logic. So you had the normies going around thinking anyone who had an iq above room tempature is a nonce of some kind. It was similar during the lockdowns. People exposing themselves for the fools they are. If it wasn't trying to make ad hominem attacks because of their pria We all here know these types are morons. I just find it exasperating. Sick to death of it. I just want to be left alone. So do most people. But they weaponised the brain-dead normies against us, along with the new to the reservation. I was saying this stuff 15 years ago in bloody school and I was called a conspiracy theorist.

He's got a mind of his own and the left hate him for that. Notice how Corbyn and the other Gaza MPs would rather be independents than join his party. It's probably because he's anti-LGBT, against mass immigration, and pro-Russia, so it shows what their priorities are. The media totally ignore him. 20 years ago he was more typical of the left. When people used to call in to his show to talk about 9/11, he would tell them he was sending for the men in white coats then cut them off. I think if he was controlled opposition he'd be more consistent.

Thankfully, my ex wife still trusts me to do the right and best thing for our children. She's rang for advice on numerous occasions. I'm sorry you have had to battle.

One has to wonder that about literally everyone. I have wondered that about Galloway in the past. Have you seen a pic of him in a masonic robe then?

I just recently commented on George Galloway being controlled opposition (on another thread, he was arrested). However, I am not totally convinced. Everything is a cluster fuck at the moment, 2 Trumps, 5 Putins, fake Charles.. All by design. Babylon=Confusion.

Yeah I agree mate the gen xers ruled the internet and as a millennial I make no bones about it we are probably the most useless generation going. The gen zers there's some hope. One of the benefits of being my age I'm not too old and I'm not too young to remember a world pre internet so I've seen glimmers of the old world whereas the poor Gen zers have known no different lol. Irc chatrooms were brilliant I used to love them.

The Millenials and Gen.Z fucked it up.

I have not seen this channel before, but this guy offers a very plausible theory about the 'spiritual agenda'. (Funnily enough, the other day I was ruminating on the fact that a lot of the elites have oriental/asian wives) .

I pity the thugs being forced to interview him. Ha ha ha ha. Mirth aside, this is very serious stuff. I hope that George gets home soon, but this HAS HAPPENED. P.S. It now appears that he has been allowed on his way. https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/25499918.george-galloway-detained-gatwick-terrorism-laws/ 'George Galloway detained at airport under Terrorism Act.' George Galloway was detained at Gatwick airport under the Terrorism Act. Officers from the Metropolitan Police's Counter Terrorism Command stopped the 71-year-old former MP on Saturday as he returned to the UK. The Herald understands that Galloway and his wife had arrived into Gatwick on a flight from Abu Dhabi, having travelled from Moscow initially. Met Police confirmed that a man in his 70s and a woman in her 40s were temporarily detained by counter terrorism officers at Gatwick but have since been allowed to continue with their journeys. A Met spokesperson said: “We can confirm that on Saturday, 27 September counter terrorism officers at Gatwick Airport stopped a man in his 70s and a woman in her 40s under Schedule 3 of the Counter Terrorism and Border Security Act 2019. “Neither of them were arrested and they were allowed on their way.” (Right. Instead of being 'arrested', then allowed on their way; they were 'detained', then allowed on their way. I am sure they were delighted to hear that they were only being 'detained' and not 'arrested'.)

to many agents and trolls are active here for this to be allowed..... we have enough attacks as it is ,sneaky intentional posts ect.

What Happened to Hogs Injected With an mRNA Vaccine? https://principia-scientific.com/what-happened-to-hogs-injected-with-an-mrna-vaccine/ In a trial involving 525 hogs injected with a live mRNA vaccine, the 21-day outcomes were catastrophic: • 25 Animals SUCCUMBED TO DEATH. • 55 Animals became severely ANOREXIC, nearing death. • 20 Animals suffered from debilitating LAMENESS. • 12 Animals exhibited severe LOSS OF CONDITION. • 25 Additional animals presented with NEAR-DEATH symptoms. This equates to a staggering 30 percent morbidity and mortality rate. Most disturbingly, post-mortem analysis revealed remnants of the live virus vaccine persisted within the tissue of the deceased animals.

Does anybody know of any UK politicians who are questioning the official narrative of the Charlie Kirk assassination? The only one I've seen is George Galloway, who coincidently is a frequent visitor to Moscow and a regular guest on RT. Is Galloway looking for the truth, like Candace Owens, Steve Bannon and Ickonic? Or is he controlled by the Hidden Hand and following a script, like RT? How do we decide, when they are saying exactly the same thing? Judge Napolitano told Galloway that Erika Kirk's father was an Israeli arms dealer, but I haven't found any other sources for that. (14:25) https://youtu.be/WotYn1hMHug

Keir Starmer has spent his career as Human Rights lawyer, he has pioneered preventing immigrants return because they don't like chicken nuggets in their own country. He spent his entire time in opposition blocking every attempt to deport immigrants, every scheme designed to control the problem and he has the gall to blame the last government for the increase in immigrants. Now, despite all the advice to the contrary, he wants to roll out Digital ID adding further costs to an already broken economy. This is ideology over common sense. Ideology over the will of the public. They should have stopped spending, stopped borrowing, deported immigrants to relieve housing, schools, NHS and benefits burden. Instead they increase spending, target pensioners and disabled in order to introduce their EU, Digital ID and currency ideology. If he had spent this Parliament stabilizing the economy and then in 4 years stated he wants national ID and to rejoin EU, it would have been different. Instead, he's hammering benefits, giving money to 'for profit social landlords' encouraging corporations to play a role in providing public services, blocking attempts to solve immigration, labeling citizens as far right, paying protesters and Police to stage public events in favour of his policies while speaking in a mealy mouth fashion that is so indifferent or on the fence that nobody knows what he truly stands for. He is a Fabian, hard-core socialist who hates capitalism and democracy. It is entirely conceivable and in keeping with Fabian strategy, to bit by bit, making bad decisions, that damage our system until it's broken. Gordon Briwn removing tax relief on pension schemes, everyone told him don't do it, but he thought he knew best, he killed our final salary pensions and wrecked pensions in general. Making us all poorer, totally in contradiction to what Labour stand for. Did he change it back? Did politicians and civil servants lose final salary and gold plated pensions? No. So Gordon Brown, Labour, the workers party, destroyed a part of our economy, by 'mistake' and it's impossible to 'undo' that mistake. Rachel Reeves discovered a £20Bn black hole, but oops, now it's £50Bn. Keir Starmer has developed the EHCR guidance to prevent the return of immigrants, blocked every scheme to solve the problem and now tells us, despite all his experience in human rights the best solution is to continue on course but issue national ID to help, in a small way, prevent immigrants working illegally. We just got to keep paying their benefits. Can they really be this incompetent? The answer is no. We are seeing the rise of their ideology, perhaps the final push to break our society completely, saddle us up with so much debt we'll never pay it off, transfer assets and services to the private, offshore sector who will suck the economy dry ensuring we will be perpetual debt slaves, and finally so closely aligning with EU that eventually we'll be back in it against our legal democratic referendum, ruled by multilayer bureaucracy with gold plated pensions and huge salaries. They will kill small businesses and wealth creators like farming, independent shops etc with regulations, taxes and business costs. Only offshore corporations will be able to compete. Curry's, the high st electrical shop, has offshored part of its business to survive in this economy. We will have corporate offshore landlords, banks, shops and our public services, including defence, will be run by private offshore shareholder backed investment companies. This is as far away from Labour 'for the worker' party ideology you can get. Nationalize services, strong unions, fair pay, low rents, great public services, strong safety net in welfare systems and good education. Labour, so far, and under Blair, is doing everything it can to saddle us with debt, regulations and taxes, forcing us to be multicultural but not our culture, while while encouraging Globalism and multinational corporate rule. When the party for the worker tell the workers they will not work unless they comply to their system because of a problem they themselves caused and will force it upon us without referendum or mandate which benefits no one but government control. Its Facism.

Common explanation is that incarnation below human realm contains too much suffering and above as some deity is full of happiness and joy so human experience is an ideal starting point to seek enlightenment right in the middle which is also in accordance with Middle Way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhyamaka Buddha’s spiritual path was savage. He lived like an animal in forests for years even used animal feces as food according to sutras before he decided to leave extreme asceticism and return closer to humans. Buddhism teaches that such extreme practice is pointless and doesn’t lead to success on spiritual path, but I think Buddha was doing it instinctively because of transformation process ... Instincts of divine animal (Cherub in Christianity) such as maternal love towards all beings started to awake in him and it manifested in brutal self harming acts. He was determined sacrifice everything to save all living beings (his children) from suffering. He left this practice after the transformation proceeded to the moment when his subtle snake body had started to detach from physical body. Naga Mucalinda was masculine part of his new angelic body. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucilinda Mucilinda (Sanskrit: मुचिलिन्द; Pali: Mucalinda) is a nāga who protected Śākyamuni Buddha from the elements after his enlightenment.[2] It is said that six weeks after Gautama Buddha began meditating under the Bodhi Tree, the heavens darkened for seven days, and a prodigious rain descended. However, the mighty King of Serpents, Mucilinda, came from beneath the earth and protected with his hood the One who is the source of all protection. When the great storm had cleared, the serpent king assumed his human form, bowed before the Buddha, and returned in joy to his palace. ------------------- I think that nagas in Hinduism and Buddhism as well as Mayan Quetzalcoatl refer to angels in Christianity. These are the same incorporeal entities only Christianity displays wings and Hinduism snake bodies. All statues of nagas, angels and also the statue at Bohemian Grove (originally statue of Buddha) represents the same entity.

Don't know if it's true or not, seen this allegation a few times. Nothing on their website about it, supposedly Multiverse donated £250M to government towards the consultation. This is Facism. Multinational corporations controlling our ID, our food, our energy and now our homes. The government is willingly diverting public money to offshore companies who pay little tax. Multinational corporations in business with government, the government utilizing or reliant on corporations to roll out services Anyone can see this will destroy a countries wealth if most of the money within the economy is taken out into offshore accounts. Keir Starmer has spent his career as a Human Rights lawyer, yet here he is introducing an ID system that every other human rights and freedom advocates day is against human rights and freedoms. Here is Starmer overseeing wealth redistribution to offshore corporations, taking money and wealth away from us. It struck me that EU has ID cards, so I suspect this move is partly to further align us with EU policies. If he can re-align us with EU in all but name, it'll be a small step to rejoin the EU Starmer says he for the worker but he pushing globalization and heavy reliance on offshore corporations. He is setting up a system where most of our lives will be managed or controlled by unaccountable corporations. This, in its simplest terms, is facism.

People were sifted into wheat or tares. I am still surprised at the amount of tares I was surrounded by, and interacted with. Add to that juice demons attached to these people like agent smiths jumping into anyone unplugged, and we can see how the next round of fun will pan out.

For all those people who say if you have nothing to hide say this to them . Do you have curtains on your windows at home ?

TRAFFICKED TO NOBODY!!!

It's a symbolic sign of how the ptb control us with their psyops. Satanic imagery is now normalised in popular culture like football and Eurovision, but show a swastika and it's straight off to jail in Germany. It's the reptilians behind all of these expressions, manipulating us this way and that.

One can't help but feel that this is all "smoke and mirrors", and another example of 'problem-reaction-solution'. Over the course of the last 10-20 years, crime has been allowed to get out of hand, thanks to ineffective policing and resources being diverted away from where they are needed the most. You mention Tony Blair, and it's ironic that he spouted the mantra "tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime", because under his Labour government, and then the following Tory government, it seemed that criminals ended up having more rights than their victims did. Victims become the criminals - for example if you challenge a burglar who's entered your home and they end up getting injured or maimed, it is you who ends up in court charged with assault! ASBOs were a joke, they became nothing more than a 'badge of honour' to feral youths as well as their 'proud' feral parents. Also, why do the police need 'new powers' to enforce things that are already illegal under UK law? For example, assault is a criminal offence, why do we need a new offence specifically for assaulting a shop worker? Off-road bikes are by their very name not legal for use on UK roads, and neither are e-scooters. So again, why are 'new powers' needed? Why is it so difficult to charge and prosecute people for offences under existing UK laws and regulations?