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It could be all three re: Kirk I haven't watched any vids of it, whether ded or alive the narrative requires chaos and conflict and that is what they are pushing. Add to that, a lil warning of speaking out against Is-nae-real and they're happy to watch mob mentality take over into uncivil war. We know more or less the objectives they have and the steps they will take to get there, which is what we are seeing now. I hope people can keep cool heads and not get suckered in to this clusterfuck

There definitely is, I've seen it a lot on platforms I use to publish some of my work. It's still really dangerous outside of X/Twitter to have an opinion that is not left wing or woke in these places and there is still a great number of people who will try and literally ruin your life and business or job for having them. The majority of people exist in what I like to call the 'pantomime level' politicians, secret societies, freemasons etc etc all know this. They know people are gullible and easily led. They need someone to follow so they guide them to exactly where they want them to be and appeal to their most base emotions such as anger and fear. So the pantomime level is important because instead of leading people to their own destruction you could be taking them to a place where they can live in peace and enjoy the time they have on this planet to develop and learn but they don't want that do they.

Thanks @truther79 Whatever else happens, that’s probably the bottom line. It certainly feels that way. I still recall when I saw the installation of TV’s in airports, and banks, and behind the bars. I thought; make sure we don’t miss the news. The breaking news. The Breaking News! It’s not really funny, but I’ve got to keep laughing to get through it all. IF the goal was only to teach people to parrot left / right, that alone has worked. Seeing how COVID unfolded taught me a lot .. including almost; take out that word, replace it for another one and just repeat it. Until it’s repeated back to you … No one really EVER said left / right. Didn’t know what it was at all. It just means nothing. Labels. Labels. BS. “Lessens will be learned” - Every time I hear them say that I think .. !!

Those in power (the real individuals) really are ramping up all of this left Vs right propaganda now. Keeping the masses against each other. It's almost constant. Just like COVID. I know many on here may disagree but I find it hard that people cannot see what is going on.

My take is if you act and behave and treat others without any empathy or humanity, that's on you and you'll have to accept whatever comes as a result on a spiritual and karmic level.

I have seen right leaning commenters who claim to be in favour of freedom of expression who are outraged by the lefties celebrating Kirk's death. Some are naming and shaming and encouraging boycotts - Rafaello Urbani / Metatron is one such personality and he has a large following. Questions have arisen about the lack of tolerance, now from the right of the political spectrum, of those they disagree with exercising their right to freedom of expression. The response from some of those aligned with the right is that there should be the freedom to say things but that there is no right to freedom from consequences. I wouldn't disagree that actions and words spoken can certainly give rise to consequences. For example, if you are rude to someone you can naturally expect some hostility in return. However, I think the right might be seizing on this as rationale for some hypocrisy especially those who are calling for sackings and other such life changing consequences. I'm also a little befuddled by their logic because part of guaranteeing freedom of expression is ensuring individuals don't feel like they cannot share their thoughts. You might piss some people off and I think most people accept push back as a potential consequence for opening your mouth or being a keyboard warrior - it needn't be made into a legal thing. But some of the right seem to be calling for more serious consequences and that, in my view, is supporting cancel culture as it then threatens people's livelihoods and/or futures and is more likely to suppress expression. Where do you draw the line between what is acceptable discourse and what isn't?

Am I the only one who deeply distrusts this narrative? I'm not talking from the perspective of analysing the footage for possible discrepancies - i.e. his wedding ring changing fingers or fake blood pumps - as I'm not sure it matters whether he was actually assassinated and what mechanics were involved behind the apparent killing. I believe there has been a whirlwind of that sort of analysis but it's more the trajectory I see arising that niggles me. I have spent the afternoon watching Tommy Robinson's rally in London. Beforehand, I was getting vibes that Kirk is going to be portrayed as a Christian martyr and this was confirmed with this afternoon's rhetoric. Kirk had the appearance of a committed Christian - vehemently so - and, with that being the case, may have been up for attaining martyr status whether or not he actually had to die for it. He was shot in the neck - the throat chakra - which adds emphasis to how free speech for those on the political right is being silenced by secular humanist woke types on the left of the political spectrum. Kirk co-founded "Turning Point USA" (TPUSA) and now the rallying cry for Westerners is that his death is the "turning point" to reclaim the Christian values and heritage upon which our Western nations were built. At Robinson's rally, the Palestinian flag was torn apart by haka dancers from New Zealand amid cries that Christians should take back their countries and reject Islam alongside secular humanism which has encouraged it. It has been suggested that Robinson's event was a form of Christian radicalisation moving towards cultural and religious warfare against Islam - taken within the context of the way the mainstream alternative media has increasingly steered towards Christianity (as decried by DI) with Robinson himself emerging from prison sporting rosary beads, I see credence in this view. What also doesn't feel organic to me is how the woke brigade are now apparently celebrating Kirk's demise with outrage coming from myriads of right leaning / nationalist commenters with websites being set up to name and shame and offending characters being fired from jobs. I'm sorry but I'm not buying it as it seems too good to be true in terms of smearing the wokeists and fanning the flames of division. It is largely accepted in alternative circles that crisis actors can be employed for staged events so why would that not also apply to more general social media content? Maybe some of the posts are AI inventions. It seems like rage-bait with the woke brigade cast as inhuman, and seeded with the intention to wind up the conservative right, rather than something real people would do. And why on earth would a wokeist make a martyr of Kirk which would surely only serve to alienate your political stance whilst increasing support on the other side? What sealed my deep suspicion was watching Erika Kirk's statement (below) which instinct tells me is not natural. It may seem insensitive but, to me, she seems to be acting - for example, the way she pats "his chair", intersperses whispered asides about her husband's and God's virtues, gulps, takes sharp intakes of breath, closes her eyes frequently, sudden changes in facial expressions from smiley to sad and audible sniffling with a lack of any visible tears. It's all very showy, seems forced / trained and with a need to persuade us she is a grieving widow. Meanwhile, she is going to be the new figurehead of TPUSA and is promoting it only days after her husband has been brutally killed. I do feel there has been a shift in the energy since Kirk's shooting. Yes - I think his death could prove to be a "turning point" and see a resurgence in pro-Christian conservative sentiment.

Absolutely. Repeat a lie often enough, with enough conviction and the masses will believe it... It's interesting now how labels have been assigned to everyone and everything. By doing that, you almost nullify the person's point of view, regardless of how logical and true it is. I'm very, very skeptical now of almost everyone podcast-wise out there with any kind of prominence as I really do believe the world around us is one big stage. Out of interest, do you think the Kirk murder was an inside job, psy-op etc or it genuinely played out as we have seen?

________________________________________ I don’t know how the hell ‘they’ do it but it’s all connected somehow .. https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/bob-vylan-charlie-kirk-amsterdam-rant “The band's frontman, Pascal Robinson-Foster, who performs as Bobby Vylan”

Yes I am sure there are genuine lefties celebrating and responding to what they feel is the consensus amongst their herd. But like with many trends, I wonder how it got started. I suspect that social engineers may be found at the heart and genesis of this phenomenon with others following and parroting.

Deary me civic nationalism is so embarrassing. Haka dancers? Lol. I won't derail the thread talking about Robinson march but I have mixed views on the event I do think British people collectivising is not a bad thing. I am not too sure about this Eve hope I am wrong but I actually do think there are thousands of people that are literally devoid of any empathy. Go on any leftist coverage (the ones being more respectful) like Vaush or whatever his name is nearly every comment is deranged. Sure could be ai or bots but not all of them. Great post by the way sorry I didn't give it the response it deserves.

Would be interested to know how many of Tommy's speakers/ guests at the rally support Isra el.? My holy spirit tells me, very few supporters of Zionism believe in Christianity. Quite the opposite. I'm not buying this Christian Revival one iota. It's fake bullshit. Remember, the gate is narrow.

Look how small we are compared with Africa. We can't possibly take in the persecuted people from all over the world and keep our own culture and way of life intact. I'd agree though that it's about using economic migration as a weapon against us, because there's plenty of large but poorer countries which don't discriminate against moderate Muslims. If anything, prioritise persecuted Anglos and Celts in the diaspora, and make Britain into a reservation for her own natives. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15031237/Africas-plan-redraw-world-map-55-nation-Union-calls-Equal-Earth-replace-misrepresent-continents-true-scale.html

I can’t explain it, and people will cheer on the strangest things, but there’s a chance some of them didn’t hear it or understand it, and cheered anyway cause others were cheering? I went to a concert recently and couldn’t even hear the words as they were so muffled, but the sound man said it was fine through his headphones. I’ve got to the stage that (almost) no matter what others are agreeing with, the bottom line is it’s engineered / coerced division, a scam and an illusion … and that even though this was a voice, an actual voice … a lot of the written comments, in general, are fake to stir up trouble. Layers of war. We’re being pushed to fall out so I stubbornly try not to go along with it? Most often the so called opposition will have been set up too? It’s relentless now. Playing with people’s emotions, and diverting people’s frustrations. God knows what people who have no idea of the game think about it?

Great post, great points. At this stage the whole thing is anything but natural. Who knows how many actors are playing parts in the whole narrative...not just the Kirk thing, but the wider picture that you discuss. Best option is not to trust any of it, and just watch for the bigger picture unfolding. FWIW, I have seen genuine woke/leftie celebrations of this guy's killing. Most forums have off-topic areas and sadly this crap is allowed to be aired without censure by BLT+ types.

Eve, I agree with what you say. They are pushing a narrative that for me will tie in with the bible they edited, to basically make all this seem like their end time game where islam vs xtianity....a big religious showdown of biblical significance. Then voila, in comes their moshiac after all the hollow cost in Palestine to save humanity. And because the deceived shout the bible can never be changed as it is the infallible word of God, they will have a checklist of events matching the bible and so believe this is it. It is also why xtians will cheer is-nae-real because of this same edited bible. Don't get me wrong, there will be stuff going on, and it will be divine in nature. But it will be our own awakening (true awakening not the shit that gets touted as being awake cuz you watch MSAM). What we are being given is religi-slop to distract us from the inner and outer work we need to be focusing on, and hearing the finer language of God/Spirit during this time The phrase turning point has that build back better vibe to it.....like another catchphrase marker as to where we are on their timeline for shits and giggles.

When they lost the debate. I am not trying to spin the narrative I don't know what's happened here or whether Kirk was taken out by the deep state, or a nation. What I do know With the "left" or whatever you want to call them, woke, it is a belief system. So when that is questioned even the more sentient ones go into cognitive dissonance. The less intelligent ones either storm off or resort to violence. Many if not all would have experienced some sort of cognitive dissonance on this forum when discussing ideas especially during the lockdown when conversing. If you put that in the context of a confused young man or confused college kid who's always been a bit of a weirdo and is now brainwashed by his/her Marxist professor you can see how they would be radicalised. People now just aren't very bright and a lot of these kids shouldn't even be at university they don't seem to have the capability or the intellect to have debates or discussions. We all knew something like this was on the cards for a long time. Why do people think louder crowder stopped doing "change my mind"? Most of that was topics that are not particularly controversial. He wasn't calling for a US white ethno state. He would say things like women is an adult female and he literally got Into punch ups. And I don't doubt that a lot of the Zionist media also have lots and lots of blood on their hands. Not even ruling out that this Robinson chap is a patsy, it will be interesting to see how this develops in terms of if it's a psyop. And I also don't doubt the state trying to incite some civil unrest situation to roll out the digital ID / facial recognition business. problem reaction solition. I just don't think people realise just how radical these Marxists are and are becoming. Woke is a religion/cult.

Thanks @JONJAY79 I don't have time to watch all the videos but to see the Marxists supporting Islamists in the hope that it will usher in their utopian revolution rather than Sharia law and the caliphate, shows to me how deluded they are. And the fact that their common enemy is supposed to be "western imperialism" is another clue that they don't know what's really going on in global politics.

I think people on the whole identify with Christianity as it rightly or wrongly represents the western world. Agreed. But thats because they aren't educated and don't know what Zionism is and what it represents. Candice Owens wasn't at first either. However that many English people getting together is a good thing I would have thought. Or do you think it's a waste of time? It took me ages to even read about it because I would get some lunatic ona forum like this saying shill! Shill! You posted a Stefan molyneux video shill I always knew you were a shill! And when you a new to this scene and you get that normal people just think yeah ok, nutcase alert. Put that on the back burner! It just puts people off. It's anger inducing at times but I think it's good the overton window is shifting. Tommy Robinson is containment. 100percent.

It's a cliche, but if you know the name, they're in the game. And to be in the game you gotta support Zionism. Are we getting closer to Project Blue Beam/ False Messiah?

Absolutely spot on. I would as go as far to say 99% of these people banging on about us being a Christian nation, are not what you'd call Christian (church going, Bible reading/believing disciples)... It's yet another label and narrative pushed by the media like GB News. Ant Middleton's speech was nauseating. Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins, Ant Middleton arm in arm at the front of the rally with their followers hanging off their every word. Couldn't pick 3 bigger grifters and opportunists if you tried.

Some comments "If you want truth, because I was there. The police turned against us. They allowed the counter protest closer than agreed, then antagonised our peaceful crowd by pinning us in a certain area and forcibly narrowing that area so the opposing protests wouldn't meet. This involved charging by police in riot gear towards our well behaved crowd which resulted in retaliation.". Severe Weather Updates they were deliberately led the wrong way by police into the baby burning terrorists and their supporters, who then attacked the police and the british public, I've seen the video's from start to finish, not just a planned snippet, this government is a disgrace the most evil, treacherous government of all time. westminster council revoked the licence for the parade 48 hours beforehand and after tommy met with the police, the police stuck a middle finger up to westminster council and gave permission for it to go ahead as planned, so I'd say there was a few police officers who under orders from the treacherous government or bent anti british police commanders, followed orders and what a disaster that was for them because we stood firm and proud, and the terrorists and their supporters proved what they are, scum, 2 million people and 9 arrests, the police even allowed an extension be ause the patriots behaved so well and respectful, no smashed, looted shops, no attacking the police, or people going about their business, no cars lit on fire or police vans burnt, I'd say compared to any other group of protesters to date we were and have been, as procen, the most peaceful, up yours starmer your time is up, between labour and the connies they're support has dropped to around 40% between them, starmer and his scummy government need to go!!!!

Tommy Robinson gave a short talk at the end of the demo. He explained that Westminster Council retracted the license to protest 48 hours before. This meant the Police would have to view the demo as illegal and to meet it with force and a view to stop it. Robinson explained the government has used the tactics before. Grant permission, then withdraw permission and the Police has to change from peaceful policing, to using force. This creates a violent backlash from protesters, who can the be labeled illegitimate demo by violent thugs. On top of this, we see the government shipping paid protesters into legitimate protests they can't stop, to antagonize the protesters, force a violent confrontation so once again, the protest becomes violent and lose its legitimacy. This is clear social engineering by the government to present a narrative to the world and our society that is reinforced by bias reporting. This is as bad as China and Russia and their social controls. This is Labour, the working people's party. Surely now, everyone can see - they are wolves in sheep's clothing among the workers. Promising us they act in our best interests while selling out to globalists and using social engineering to cover up what they are doing. This is serious now.

1) No, there won't be a civil war. 2) The people calling for civil war are duped idiots. 3) Talk of civil war is still within the game that the ruling class WANTS people playing. 4) Because nothing inside that game is any threat to authoritarian injustice.

Could there also be a link with the Robertson's jam golliwog and its heavy association with "racism"?

https://youtu.be/__Wpqi3EGWo?si=dvRQYWdl9pyszZQU Huge numbers attending the event, and the usual misrepresentation, as expected, from the BBC.

Agreed with this. As evil and twisted some of the posts are I do think calling for people to get fired is a slippery slope. However I know where this sentiment comes from. It's the sentiment that if you want to play dirty, we will too. I think it's good that these people are exposed though.

The next step is corporate rule. They own our land, control our food, our industries and our homes. They will funnel money out of economies into offshore accounts keeping those economies in debt and ensuring nobody owns anything. Everything will be regulated and taxed. Governments will be directed by businesses. Facism. Thats the next step.

What odds that the "assassin" and our right-wing patsy are both "called" Robinson/Robertson. Set-up, all day long.

Yeah we're naturally violent. Found out i had an issue when I was 8 or 9, arguing with my sister and I absolutely lost it. Punched through a glass partition in a door. Until then I had always tried to avoid conflict, but she wound me up so much, I saw black, lost control. After that I kept myself away from bad situations. I learnt martial arts, Judo, Karate, Taekwondo and Tai Chi. First day of secondary school I got into a fight with a kid who turned out to be 1 of the hardest kids from another school. I didn't back down, he didn't win. Neither of us did really. But no one came near me after that. I had a traumatic violent childhood, no bully can hold a candle to that. You can only be truly peaceful if you know how and can be violent, but you value peace more and are able to control yourself. Men shouldn't be ashamed of violence, but be able to control it. Imo. Edit: I did Disco dancing lessons as well. It wasn't all violence. Although my Violin lessons were probably violent to the teacher.

Which is probably the purest of the Christian faiths.

These days violence has been claimed by the state, with its monopoly on the police and military force. And where are they going to find their recruits able to put up a fight if necessary and keep us from being invaded? Yes we try to gloss over our aggression in the name of civilisation but wouldn't survive long without it. Mind you, the actual fighting is usually done at a distance with modern weapons, which need a clear head. In the wild, many social mammals do have fights between the males and create a social hierarchy to determine who gets the best position. But they don't often fight to the death, the weaker ones give up and accept their place until they sense the pack leader getting old and ready to be challenged again. We have created safety valves for the violent streak with ritualised forms of conflict, such as sports. Martial arts and boxing being obvious examples, but even things like footy and rugger play that role.

Sometimes a bit of violence sorts it out. Like when you're being bullied at school. Once you hit out/back, and show you're no pushover, they stop. No amount of talk is gonna do that.