Midlands Unite Freedom Rally - Birmingham

Ooh, will have to pop along to this one!

It's a sad state of affairs really when I admit that the last time I went into Birmingham city centre was for the last rally in August.

 

There were a couple of hundred other attendees, and the police didn't seem much bothered with what was going on.

 

This one could be very different though. No doctors or Piers Corbyn in the announced lineup so far. Will the Ickes be targeted by the police this time?

 

I have to admit that while I'm prepared to listen to what Mark Steele has to say, I do have my doubts about him, I'm not entirely convinced that LED streetlamps are 'lethal weapons'.

19 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

It's a sad state of affairs really when I admit that the last time I went into Birmingham city centre was for the last rally in August.

 

There were a couple of hundred other attendees, and the police didn't seem much bothered with what was going on.

 

This one could be very different though. No doctors or Piers Corbyn in the announced lineup so far. Will the Ickes be targeted by the police this time?

 

I have to admit that while I'm prepared to listen to what Mark Steele has to say, I do have my doubts about him, I'm not entirely convinced that LED streetlamps are 'lethal weapons'.

Might well pop along myself but I'm in-between night shifts. I'll see in a bit if I can get some leave as this is walking distance for me.

3 minutes ago, Saved said:

Might well pop along myself but I'm in-between night shifts. I'll see in a bit if I can get some leave as this is walking distance for me.

 

I live out in the suburbs (Billesley) but I don't mind a short 25 min bus ride into the city centre. I have nothing else planned for that day, repotting my cacti will have to wait!

2 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

I live out in the suburbs (Billesley) but I don't mind a short 25 min bus ride into the city centre. I have nothing else planned for that day, repotting my cacti will have to wait!

I went to Trafalgar Square but this is right on my doorstep (I'm in Selly Oak). Just rang a manager on the off chance of getting Saturday night off and have been granted it.

I will be coming from Oswestry to Telford and wanted to know what its like on the trains from Telford to New Street station not wearing a mask? As I really want to go to this rally. Sick to death of being around people that are conforming to this stupid rules

 

Lisa 

On 10/27/2020 at 11:27 PM, Lisa Quinton said:

I will be coming from Oswestry to Telford and wanted to know what its like on the trains from Telford to New Street station not wearing a mask? As I really want to go to this rally. Sick to death of being around people that are conforming to this stupid rules

 

Lisa 

Have you got an exemption or an exemption card Lisa? I assume that you won’t get asked, but apparently my dad was told off at bham new at station By a copper for having his mask pulled down on his chin Cos he was just finishing a phone call. So the station might be worse than the train?  Prob a lot of police etc about if an event is on... we are getting there by train  

On 10/27/2020 at 11:27 PM, Lisa Quinton said:

I will be coming from Oswestry to Telford and wanted to know what its like on the trains from Telford to New Street station not wearing a mask? As I really want to go to this rally. Sick to death of being around people that are conforming to this stupid rules

 

Lisa 

I did not have any problems on public transport for the London rallies, though if it gives you peace of mind there is no harm taking a mask or exemption card for the ticket barriers. 

40 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

I did not have any problems on public transport for the London rallies, though if it gives you peace of mind there is no harm taking a mask or exemption card for the ticket barriers. 

Thank you for your reply I don't want to take on exemption card or wear muzzle like a dog. I was just going to say I am exempt. Do you think I will get away with it? I what to be disobedient to the power that been telling us what to do. The exemption card  I feel is  another way of controlling us showing that we have disability from everybody else to see, so wrong. What do you think?

Kind Regards

Lisa 

47 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

I did not have any problems on public transport for the London rallies, though if it gives you peace of mind there is no harm taking a mask or exemption card for the ticket barriers. 

Thank for your reply I don't want to take an exemption card  because I thought they are not a legal requirement. Do you know whether or not they are?

Kind Regards

Lisa Quinton 

49 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

I did not have any problems on public transport for the London rallies, though if it gives you peace of mind there is no harm taking a mask or exemption card for the ticket barriers. 

Thank you for spending time on sending this information. I want to stand up to this rubbish. Wearing muzzles and exemption card. I am worried that I wont get through the barriers at New Street station what do you think?

Kind Regards

Lisa

13 hours ago, Malbec said:

Have you got an exemption or an exemption card Lisa? I assume that you won’t get asked, but apparently my dad was told off at bham new at station By a copper for having his mask pulled down on his chin Cos he was just finishing a phone call. So the station might be worse than the train?  Prob a lot of police etc about if an event is on... we are getting there by train  

Absolutely ridiculous  how the police are telling people off. If somebody would have told me that it was going to happen I would have believed them how people are sucking this rubbish up. I did think it was going to be policed in New Street. I don't want to wear a mask and I thought exemption cards were not legal. But do you know whether or not they are?

I am also worried about not conforming to the rubbish but I want to feel free but don't want to be fined. This is my rebellious streak in me I don't like being told what to do especially when some think doesn't make sense to me. Please feel free to comment!

Kind Regards

Lisa Quinton

1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

I did not have any problems on public transport for the London rallies, though if it gives you peace of mind there is no harm taking a mask or exemption card for the ticket barriers. 

Thank you for time spend on telling the situation. Just look below. I have left you a comment.

Kind Regards

Lisa

3 hours ago, Lisa Quinton said:

Thank you for time spend on telling the situation. Just look below. I have left you a comment.

Kind Regards

Lisa

As things currently stand, the law is on the side of someone who says that they are exempt. You don't have to prove that you have an exemption nor explain why.

3 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

As things currently stand, the law is on the side of someone who says that they are exempt. You don't have to prove that you have an exemption nor explain why.

Dear Grump Grapes

Thank you for telling me about the law. I think it is the disability act. They will properly try to change that next and every body will go yes we don't mind change the law. Slap us in the face we will put up with this . My dad is not alive but he would be rolling  in grave right now. My mom is a live as she will be 80 next year she say's Covid is a load of nonsense.

Kind Regards

Lisa 

8 hours ago, Lisa Quinton said:

Absolutely ridiculous  how the police are telling people off. If somebody would have told me that it was going to happen I would have believed them how people are sucking this rubbish up. I did think it was going to be policed in New Street. I don't want to wear a mask and I thought exemption cards were not legal. But do you know whether or not they are?

I am also worried about not conforming to the rubbish but I want to feel free but don't want to be fined. This is my rebellious streak in me I don't like being told what to do especially when some think doesn't make sense to me. Please feel free to comment!

Kind Regards

Lisa Quinton

 

Hi Lisa, as you are travelling into the West Midlands, you can download and/or print off a TfWM (Transport For West Midlands) exemption card:

 

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To support people with physical and mental health conditions, including those that are hidden, we have produced an assistance card which can be downloaded here. You can carry this card and if asked why you are not wearing a face covering you can show this to a staff member or fellow passenger.  

You can also download the image here and save to your phone to show if you don't have a printer. 

 

I don't have any conditions and I mostly travel around by bus, but this card has proven useful on many occasions. I just show it to bus drivers and they say nothing back. I was once challenged by a bus inspector as to why I wasn't wearing a face covering, and he couldn't back away quick enough when I showed this to him.

 

The government guidelines are that passengers 'must' wear a face covering on all forms of public transport, 'unless an exemption applies'. But one does not need to prove any exemption if challenged. The exemption cards are simply a 'get out of jail free' card.

 

It's only "the fear" that makes people wear face coverings when they don't need to.

Best wishes for today, ladies and gentlemen. Hopefully see you in London next month. 

I can't find any 'news' of this protest in Birmingham. I hope that it all goes well.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-major-anti-lockdown-demonstration-19199192

On 10/30/2020 at 8:18 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Hi Lisa, as you are travelling into the West Midlands, you can download and/or print off a TfWM (Transport For West Midlands) exemption card:

 

 

I don't have any conditions and I mostly travel around by bus, but this card has proven useful on many occasions. I just show it to bus drivers and they say nothing back. I was once challenged by a bus inspector as to why I wasn't wearing a face covering, and he couldn't back away quick enough when I showed this to him.

 

The government guidelines are that passengers 'must' wear a face covering on all forms of public transport, 'unless an exemption applies'. But one does not need to prove any exemption if challenged. The exemption cards are simply a 'get out of jail free' card.

 

It's only "the fear" that makes people wear face coverings when they don't need to.

 

On 10/30/2020 at 8:18 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Hi Lisa, as you are travelling into the West Midlands, you can download and/or print off a TfWM (Transport For West Midlands) exemption card:

 

 

I don't have any conditions and I mostly travel around by bus, but this card has proven useful on many occasions. I just show it to bus drivers and they say nothing back. I was once challenged by a bus inspector as to why I wasn't wearing a face covering, and he couldn't back away quick enough when I showed this to him.

 

The government guidelines are that passengers 'must' wear a face covering on all forms of public transport, 'unless an exemption applies'. But one does not need to prove any exemption if challenged. The exemption cards are simply a 'get out of jail free' card.

 

It's only "the fear" that makes people wear face coverings when they don't need to.

 

THANK YOU GRUMP GRAPES

I went to the rally and I loved it. Only thing is people couldn't hear at the back of the rally. Bad speakers and micro phone wasn't very clear either you had to really listen to what was being said. Still thank you from every body help and support on the rally and in the e-mails.

Kind Regards

 

Lisa Quinton