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Old 12-03-2011, 01:29 PM   #1
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Just saw them in Melbourne...great night.
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Old 12-03-2011, 02:10 PM   #2
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Great Band..good and only Hawkwind documentary below.
very funny in places.

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Old 12-03-2011, 03:11 PM   #3
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Great Band..good and only Hawkwind documentary below.
very funny in places.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw_rvrXQiQ
Couple of BIG problems with that hawkwind 'Documentary'

It doesn't feature ONE WORD from FOUNDER AND MAINMAN Dave 'the baron' Brock

Instead they let Nick Whatshisface talk shit for most of it, he was always an idiot, shite sax player and wailed barbage over the other musicians til he got kicked out.

Violin Player Simon House is the only one interviewed who gives a real picture of Nick's 'contribution'


oh yeah, nik turner, thats his name, he is NOT a musician, he is a camp 'performance artist' and is more into wearing stupid , attention seeking costumes than playing music,

Also the film had too much from Lemmy who we all know from Motorhead, but he only ever did one album with Hawkwind and got kicked out for being a speed addict.
Trust me , amphetamine addicts make LOUSY musicians, they can't keep time, they can't FEEL a groove, they talk too much, they can't chill out and make etherial sounds

The film totally misses the great 90's era when they did albums like 'Space bandits' and hosted the legendary 12 HOUR TECHNICOLOUR DREAM concerts overnight at Brixton Academy (First place I saw Ozrics- mindblowing)

It doesn't mention Alan Davey who played bass for 15-20 years with the band and was 100 time the bassist Lemmy is (oh , but Lemmy's 'such a charachter' , with his warts and his alcoholism and nazi uniforms)

Film doesn't mention Dave Anderson who played bass with Hawkwind for as long as Lemmy did AND played in 'Amon Duul' AND opened a recording studio in Wales where Ozric Tentacles recorded thier two classic albums Pungent effulgent' and 'Erpland'

Film doesn't mention the HAWKFEST semi-private fanclub festival where Hawkwind and many of thier offshoots play once a year. THEY HAVE THIER OWN FESTIVAL

Seemed like it was a hit piece against Brock who is the man who kept Hawkwind GOING all these years!!!
Nik turner got together with his luvvie bumchums in the BBC and interviewd anyone who had a grudge against Dave Brock

How come they didn't interview Harvey Bainbridge, Tim Blake, Alan Davey, Richard Chadwick (Hawkwind drums for 23 years), Ginger Baker, Dave Anderson?

Because they couldn't get those guys to do the dirty on Dave Brock

On conclusion the film has SOME good info, but misses GREAT CHUNKS of history and most of the BEST BITS. It focuses on the more forgettable shite like 'silver machine' and ignores the great bits. the film is very skewed and tries to paint a false picture and promote nik turners bogus rip-off act 'space ritual' tribute act.

A Hawkwind documentary without Brock is half hearted at best, but this one actually attempts to paint out Dave Brock from the legacy he Built . Hawkwind IS Dave Brock's legacy yet they interview camp luvvie Nik Turncoat and 'one song' Lemmy who is still dining out on ace of spades.

Imagine what a good film it Could be if they got some anecdotes from Dave Brock, the creative force and enduring heart of Hawkwind, instead of letting camp luvvie nik turner drip his bile into our ears .
Still it's worth seeing to hear what Simon House has to say
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:01 PM   #4
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Dave Brock...definately a legend.
He turns 70 this year and still kicks ass.
They also played Flying Doctor for us Aussies...couldnt get enough.
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I'd never heard of Hawkwind until a few years back when a friend of mine had a spare ticket to one of their shows and asked if I wanted to come, I loved every second of i, great band. Didn't think much of Matthew Wright from Channel 5's The Wright Stuff doing the poetry though but was a good laugh none the less.
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Old 14-03-2011, 05:25 PM   #6
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Never forget seeing Hawkwind at Rock St Youth Centre in Wellingborough and they played Silver Machine before it was in the charts, I was near the front where the stripper dancer brushed past me...the following week they were on TOTP..that was a great era
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Dave Brock...definately a legend.
He turns 70 this year and still kicks ass.
They also played Flying Doctor for us Aussies...couldnt get enough.
Blimey. Fair play to him. It's always inspiring to see/know. Daevid Allen from Gong is 70 something too. Still going strong, as far out as ever!

What I also find special about Hawkwind/Brock is The viewpoint. Especially in the 90s, imo, they were right up there with Icke or Bill Hicks in trying to 'spread the word' through mainstream culture, for want of a better way of getting that across 'Welcome to the future' in particular is one of my favourite things ever, as much for the sentiment as the delivery. A poster on here who obviously has good taste has it for a sig. And check out the lyrics for 'Living on a knife edge/ The camera that couldn't lie'. From 1981!

Every time i go out i think i'm being checked out
Faceless people watching on a tv screen
Do you begin to sense it just beneath the surface
Reflections of a window whilst walking down the street

Computers are abused school records are fed
Police are checking on what you said
The number of your car is fed into a box
Your journey's being checked it's a paradox

Duplicate forms and id cards are next in line to disregard
Future generations are relying on us
It's a world we've made incubus

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I've got a book somewhere (Do Not Panic), there's a real funny bit in it where a member of the band (Terry Olis?) turns up in a red sports car, and Dave Brock goes outside and smashes the hell out of it with a cricket bat...Classy!

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I'd never heard of Hawkwind until a few years back when a friend of mine had a spare ticket to one of their shows and asked if I wanted to come, I loved every second of i, great band. Didn't think much of Matthew Wright from Channel 5's The Wright Stuff doing the poetry though but was a good laugh none the less.
Well with Mathew Wright they get mentioned on his TV show a lot so PR and advertising coue...

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So Dave Brock is among the last ones left then?
Daevid Allen died, Lemmy.
I can't see him getting the acclaim* Keith Richards gets at that age, despite Dave Brock touring harder than Keith for a start.
And yet when Brock dies, there will be a lot of shows and personalities saying they were always fans but never did much to give Dave Brock and Hawkwind exposure.
And yeah, I wish Dave Brock was interviewed in that documentary to put his side as well!

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They should have stayed true to their anarchic roots and more importantly to each other. You want to "develop" the "Hawkwind sound" in some quirky and kinda lame direction? Great! Develop as musicians, sure. Just don't be a dickhead that no one could be expected to tolerate for long and keep the show rolling.

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Was listening to them last week after lemmy died. Seen them a few years ago on mushrooms was glorious. My uncle used to follow them about, he lives in oban and sure they were based there for a while, or some of them lived there.

Apparantly they used to do secret festivals with huge containers of mushroom tea you could just go up and help yourself, sounds great lol

I watched the lemmy documentary earlier this summer, bbc were doing a thing on him and one of the guys from hawkwind came across as a total elitist snob, on lemmy- oh we were more into expanding our minds and using psychedelics, yes drunkards and speed heads and trippers dont go together but this guy came across as a pompous twat. Do get a lot of that superiority complex in some psychedelic circles, usually half of them are complete fakers who know feck all.

But yeah great band seen the recent tour and would go if I was in the UK...
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Also the film had too much from Lemmy who we all know from Motorhead, but he only ever did one album with Hawkwind and got kicked out for being a speed addict.
Trust me , amphetamine addicts make LOUSY musicians, they can't keep time, they can't FEEL a groove, they talk too much, they can't chill out and make etherial sounds
Well, the evidence of Lemmy's four decade career after Hawkwind would appear to prove wrong your generalistion of speed users making LOUSY musicians who can't keep time or feel a groove.

And I hate to break this to you, but chilling out and making etheral sounds is not essential to all forms of music. In fact, it's not essential to most forms of popular music. It's pretty much a niche neccessity.

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Hawkwind IS Dave Brock's legacy yet they interview camp luvvie Nik Turncoat and 'one song' Lemmy who is still dining out on ace of spades.
That's an astounding level of ignorance regarding the extent of Lemmy's work with Motorhead and various side projects. And by the way, Ace of Spades wasn't even't his highest charting single.

If you're going to rubbish somebody's career, at least do yourself a favour and try and get basically informed about the facts beforehand. Otherwise you risk ending up looking a bit silly.

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