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synergy777
20-09-2007, 01:08 PM
THE BEST MANAGER IN THE GAME IS FORCED OUT BY A BILLIONAIRE CHAIRMAN. A CHAIRMAN WHO BROUGHT IN BALLACK AND SHEVA AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE MANAGER, AND LOOK HOW GOOD THEY DID. JOSE SHOULD TAKE A YEAR OFF, AND WE AT MAN UTD COULD HAVE HIM FOR NEXT SEASON.

Quote of the day

Ray Wilkins on the qualities of Jose Mourinho: "Winning football matches is what the game's about and he is a winning manager who puts a winning mentality in players' heads and they go and win things."

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article2493403.ece

Goodbye Jose Mourinho

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_2741786,00.html

TAYLOR: BALLACK AND SHEVA THE KEY

AS A MAN UTD FAN, CHELSEA LOSING MOURINHO IS A GODSEND, THEY WON'T BE CHAMPIONS AGAIN. AUTOCRACTIC CHAIRMEN, LIKE THE ONE AT HEARTS/LEICESTER/CHELSEA, ARE BAD FOR THE GAME.

VIVA JOSE

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/8513/josemourinho002jk6.jpg

synergy777
20-09-2007, 03:50 PM
José Mourinho

José Mourinho - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

bazzybazzy
20-09-2007, 03:53 PM
well as an arsenal fan - that can only be good news ;)

brotherapostate
20-09-2007, 03:56 PM
A Jew working behind the scenes to cause havoc? Surely not!

synergy777
20-09-2007, 03:59 PM
to the top 3, arsenal, liverpool and manu, its great news. chelsea, think will see a lot of changes. wonder if lamps will go barac, drogba to milan. heck if jose gets a new club, what chelsea players will follow him?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=482832&in_page_id=1779

Quote, unquote - Mourinho's words of wisdom
Last updated at 07:13am on 20th September 2007

During his time as Chelsea manager, Jose Mourinho kept the football world entertained with a string of comments that took in the good, the bad and the downright ugly. Here, Sportsmail looks at some his most famous verbal volleys.


The Special One
"Please don't call me arrogant, but I'm European champion and I think I'm a special one"

Mourinho introduces himself to the English press after arriving from Porto in summer 2004.

"In the second half it was whistle and whistle, fault and fault, cheat and cheat. The referee controlled the game in one way during the first half but in the second they had dozens of free-kicks. I know the referee did not walk to the dressing rooms alone at half-time"

Mourinho claims Sir Alex Ferguson had unduly influenced referee Neale Barry at half-time during a Carling Cup semi-final against Manchester United in January 2005. He was fined £5,000 by the Football Association for improper conduct.

"I don't regret it. The only thing I have to understand is I'm in England, so maybe even when I think I am not wrong, I have to adapt to your country and I have to respect that. I have a lot of respect for Liverpool fans and what I did, the sign of silence - 'shut your mouth' - was not for them, it was for the English press"

Mourinho defends putting a finger to his lips during the 2005 Carling Cup final against Liverpool, an action which resulted in him being sent to the stands.

"When I saw Rijkaard entering the referee's dressing room I couldn't believe it. When Drogba was sent off I didn't get surprised. There is something that tells me that in London the referee will be Collina, the best in the world. A perfect referee with personality and quality"

Mourinho claims in Portuguese newspaper Dez Record that Barcelona coach Frank Rijkaard visited referee Anders Frisk's dressing room at half-time in the first leg of the teams' Champions League last-16 clash in February 2005. Mourinho was banned from the dug-out for two matches and fined £9,000 by UEFA for bringing the game into disrepute over his claims.

"I felt the power of Anfield, it was magnificent. I felt it didn't interfere with my players but maybe it interfered with other people and maybe it interfered with the result. You should ask the linesman why he gave a goal. Because, to give a goal, the ball must be 100 per cent in and he must be 100 per cent sure that the ball is in"

Mourinho questions the validity of Liverpool forward Luis Garcia' s goal which puts Chelsea out of the Champions League semi-finals on May 3, 2004.

"It is not a red card, of course not, and for the second time we have to play 55, 60 minutes without a man and the game is completely different. I shouldn't speak about the game, because the game is not a game"

Mourinho blames a first-leg defeat to Barcelona in the Champions League last 16 in February 2006 on the sending-off of Asier del Horno.

"We have played against them four matches in two seasons. (When it was) 11 against 11 they never beat us. That is the reality"

After 1-1 draw at the Nou Camp in 2006 which sent Barca through to the quarter-finals 3-2 on aggregate.

"The goalkeeper has the ball in his hands, slides and the number 10 cannot get the ball. He goes with the knee into his face"

Mourinho accuses Reading midfielder Stephen Hunt of deliberately injuring Petr Cech after the pair collide in the first minute of last October's match at the Madejski Stadium.

"It is not possible (for) penalties (to be awarded) against Manchester United, and it is not possible (to get) penalties in favour of Chelsea. If somebody punishes me because I tell the truth, it is the end of democracy, we go back to the old times"

The Chelsea boss fumed last weekend after seeing his side's penalty appeals against Newcastle turned down, a day after United were given the benefit of the doubt over a strong injury-time penalty claim by Middlesbrough in their clash at Old Trafford.

"A player who wants to be the best one of the world, and he already may be, should have the uprightness and the sufficient maturity to verify that against facts there are not arguments. If he says that it is a lie that Manchester United have conceded some penalties this season which have not been awarded against them, he is lying. And if he lies he will never reach the level that he wants to reach"
Mourinho hit back at Ronaldo after the United winger claimed his penalty rant proved his countryman "doesn't know how to admit his own failures".

"It is omelettes and eggs. No eggs - no omelettes! It depends on the quality of the eggs. In the supermarket you have class one, two or class three eggs and some are more expensive than others and some give you better omelettes. So when the class one eggs are in Waitrose and you cannot go there, you have a problem"

Shorn of the likes of injury victims Frank Lampard, Michael Ballack, Ricardo Carvalho and Didier Drogba, Mourinho cooked up a surreal analogy ahead of Tuesday's fateful draw with Rosenborg.

i think they stitched him up. when all 3 clubs spent big, jose was denied transfer funds before this season. chelsea had a surplus of 17m, while other spent 20 million plus. its the sheva/ballack, roman wanting all out attacking play. all out attacking play, does not win trophies.

synergy777
20-09-2007, 06:20 PM
http://football.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6936600,00.html

Mourinho ties with club had broken - Chelsea
(adds details)
By Trevor Huggins

LONDON, Sept 20 (Reuters) - Former manager Jose Mourinho left Stamford Bridge because his relationship with Chelsea had broken down and the effects could be seen in their results, the Premier League club said on Thursday.
Mourinho, who stunned English football with his departure earlier in the day, was also hailed for his contribution to Chelsea in an open letter to fans issued by the club.

"It is only right we explain the reasons behind Jose Mourinho leaving Chelsea and also recognise the immense contribution he has made to the club and to English football," read the letter.

"Early this morning we announced Chelsea and Jose Mourinho had agreed to part company by mutual consent. The key phrase here is there was mutual agreement. Jose did not resign and he was not sacked.

"What is clear, though, is we had all reached a point where the relationship between the club and Jose had broken down. This was despite genuine attempts over several months by all parties to resolve certain differences.

"The reason the decision has been taken is we believed the breakdown started to impact on the performance of the team and recent results supported this view.

"We did not want this to continue or affect the club further."
Chelsea have drawn two and lost one of their six domestic league games this season and were held to a disappointing 1-1 draw at home by Rosenborg

Trondheim of Norway in their Champions League opener on Tuesday.
The Londoners won two Premier League titles, two League Cups and one FA Cup in Mourinho's three-year spell in charge.

Chelsea said the first-team coaching appointment of Avram Grant, Chelsea's director of football, and the retaining of assistant manager Steve Clarke was aimed at "continuing to achieve" the club's long-term objectives.

Chelsea were also at pains to recognise what their Portuguese former manager had done for a club who had not won the league for 50 years before his first season in 2004-05.

"He has been the most successful manager the club has known and he rightly deserves that place in our history.

"Jose has been instrumental in putting Chelsea where it is today, among the leading clubs in European and world football. He will always be welcome at Stamford Bridge..."

whatever chance chelsea had of being the best club, is gone. you should judge him on tophies, not flair. if he had teams of flair, look at newcastle with keagan, great to watch, what did they win? you can't win all the time by playing attacking football. chelsea are going to repeat the madrid galactico fiasco, you watch.

teams win titles, not star players. mourinho prefers teams and not two star players, sheva/ballack who were forced onto him by the owner. what this highlights is the football clubs are billioniares toys. look at west ham, liverpool, man utd, spurs, arsenal loads of money but they let the manager buy players. chelsea had three people above jose mourinho to buy players. all the players, bar cavalho/ferria/tiago, the porto lot, were brought buy frank arnesan/av grant and roman.

so the best manager in the world, had three people dictating what players he could have, they brought, and expected him to make them into a team. surley a manger of his calibre, should be allowed to choose players.

if he won the uefa cup and champions league with porto, his way? ask yourself, why not with chelsea?

synergy777
20-09-2007, 07:11 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?view=DETAILS&grid=&xml=/sport/2007/09/20/ufnchelsea320.xml

Chelsea's £12m goodbye to Jose Mourinho
By Andy Hooper
Last Updated: 7:00pm BST 20/09/2007

Jose Mourinho was at Stamford Bridge tonight negotiating a pay-off worth £12 million from Chelsea following his abrupt departure from the club.

Chelsea have placed director of football Avram Grant, the former Israel coach, and assistant manager and ex-defender Steve Clarke in charge of their first team after confirming Mourinho's exit, which they insisted was decided last night by "mutual agreement".

Champion: Mourinho guided Chelsea to the 2004/5 Premiership title in his first season in charge

A open letter to fans on the club's website, the third statement of a chaotic day, said: "Jose did not resign and he was not sacked. What is clear, though, is we had all reached a point where the relationship between the club and Jose had broken down.

"This was despite genuine attempts over several months by all parties to resolve certain differences. The reason the decision has been taken is that we believed the breakdown started to impact on the performance of the team and recent results supported this view."

Mourinho, 44, arrived in 2004 after Champions League success with Porto but is now in talks for a financial settlement with the club at which he won consecutive Premier League titles in his first two years in charge. His salary in the remaining three years of his contract was £5.2m per annum. However, it is understood the agreement will include confidentiality clauses that prevent him from divulging any club secrets.

This morning, Mourinho made a brief visit to Chelsea's training facility in Cobham, Surrey, where he met the players he had guided to five major trophies, including two Carling Cups and this year's FA Cup, in his three years in charge. While Chelsea said the squad was in "buoyant mood", Mourinho's emotional farewell was reported to have left striker Didier Drogba in tears.

Drogba, the Ivory Coast international, is just one of the players for whom Mourinho was the pivotal figure at Stamford Bridge. Captain John Terry and his England team-mate Frank Lampard were also close allies of Mourinho in his stormy final year at Chelsea, during which the club surrendered its championship to Manchester United and again failed to lift the Champions League crown coveted by owner Roman Abramovich.

Such was the impact of the Portuguese manager's departure that even Prime Minister Gordon Brown was prompted to comment. A Downing Street spokesman said: "The Prime Minister is a football fan and somebody who enjoys watching Premiership games, so he knows Mourinho has a fantastic record of success. He's made a significant contribution to British football in a short period of time and he's also one of the great characters of the game."

Lord Sebastian Coe, the Chelsea-supporting chairman of the 2012 London Olympics organising committee, said he was "bemused" by events. "It is not entirely a shock," he said, noting the frosty partnership between Abramovich and Mourinho. "All of us Chelsea fans have known it has been a strange relationship."

Mourinho's backroom staff have also left the club. Baltemar Brito (assistant manager/coach), Rui Faria (assistant manager/fitness coach) Andre Villas (head opposition scout/first team coach) and Silvino Louro (assistant manager/goalkeeper coach) have all departed.

Grant, whose arrival at the club last summer was not welcomed by Mourinho, must now win over both players and fans having been placed in charge with Clarke, albeit on what seems a temporary basis. Beating champions United, away at Old Trafford on Sunday, in his first game, would be a start.

For Mourinho, who has already been linked with the national team job in his Portuguese homeland, there will be any number of takers.


jose being a great man, couldn't take the bullshit treatment he got, and had the balls to walk out. jose, old trafford, should be yout next club.

don azzaro
20-09-2007, 07:25 PM
Abramovich makes me laugh.

He sits there with this clueless look on his face looking around to make sure he's clapping at the right moments, buying players he wants rather than letting the MANAGER do it. You know Roman, that guy you pay a few million quid to every year who won you two titles.

I'll miss Jose he was great, always said what he thought even if it cost him a few grand each time he did so.

Would you reckon he'll end up at Old Trafford anytime soon? The only way Ferguson will leave there is in a coffin I reckon lol. Maybe he'll look after the Portugese national side for a bit first.

synergy777
03-12-2007, 02:34 PM
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2220950,00.html

Full-time medics, revive Burton and let me rule - Mourinho's blueprint

Matt Scott reveals what the former Chelsea manager will tell the FA if it makes contact about England job

Monday December 3, 2007
The Guardian


Even if Brian Barwick picks up the telephone to make the call almost every England fan is clamouring for, the Football Association might not end up with Jose Mourinho as the next national manager.But the FA's chief executive would get detailed insight into what it will take to make England succeed from one of the most successful and intelligent managers to have worked in the English game. As advice goes, that would be worth the price of an international call.

Barwick and the FA's director of football development, Sir Trevor Brooking - the men who share the responsibility for appointing Steve McClaren's successor - have not yet finished canvassing the opinions of outside sources and will make no move until they do.
Sir Bobby Robson, the most successful England manager since the 1966 World Cup winner, Sir Alf Ramsey, is one whose opinion has been sought. He evaluated Mourinho thus: "He has popular support, is loved by players and is unafraid to make changes during matches." But he added a caveat: "Would he make a drama out of a crisis if something goes wrong?"

That, frankly, should not be a consideration. English football is in crisis, having missed out on qualification for an international tournament for the first time in 14 years, and it seems only a dramatically ambitious appointment like Mourinho's could shake up the system.

If Barwick makes that call, Mourinho will make clear to him that the FA must professionalise its approach to international football. He is staggered that there is no central base for England during international weeks.

At the moment England decamp to hotels in the vicinity of the M25 - McClaren's preference was for The Grove hotel near Watford - while making use of club training facilities, with Arsenal's London Colney centre often used. But Mourinho would call for the National Football Centre to be completed as a self-contained location from which to operate during international duty.

The bucolic Burton-on-Trent site was mothballed when half-built. It currently boasts a complex of heated pitches that are being carefully maintained but there is no residential capacity to accommodate the players to use them. Having been closely involved in the construction of Chelsea's sprawling training facility at Cobham in Surrey - with its state-of-the-art hydrotherapy pool and gyms - Mourinho already has a template from which to work.

Mourinho would also demand the resources for full-time scouting and medical infrastructures. At the moment England take the physiotherapist Gary Lewin on secondment from Arsenal.

But there have in the past been complaints from managers uncomfortable that this presents a potential conflict of interest since Lewin is given an insight into the fitness secrets of their players. In a move that would likely mollify such figures as Manchester United's manager, Sir Alex Ferguson, Mourinho would move to ensure that all medical staff work exclusively for the national team.

Mourinho is ambitious enough to seek a more hands-on role than his predecessors. The Portuguese would seek to exploit his cordial relationship with Ferguson to procure access to United's Carrington training ground to view their day-to-day sessions and check on the fitness progress of English players. It is likely, though, that there would need to be a rapprochement with Liverpool's manager, Rafael Benítez, before there could be similar arrangements at Melwood.

The perception has been that Mourinho could not bear to be denied daily involvement on a training ground and that he considers international management to be the preserve of men approaching their retirement. But the former Chelsea manager would provide his employers with a rolling, 15-day itinerary so the FA would at all times be aware of his working arrangements. He would also pledge to have an attendance record at matches to rival Eriksson's.

"He would be a different type of manager," said a friend yesterday. "The manager of a national team normally works one or two weeks before a match, whether it's a friendly or a competitive fixture. They work only on the match.

"But Jose is very different. He knows it's such an important job. If he becomes England boss, he'll change a lot of things and work in a different way. Managing England is not the same as managing Italy or Germany; it is a special job."

That much is clear. Italy are the current world champions and reached the Euro 2000 final; German shirts are gilded with three stars above the crest. In 2004 Mourinho, on his way to winning the Champions League with Porto, recognised Chelsea as a well-resourced club that had been starved of success for 50 years.

It was a destination where he could make an instant impact and here there are clear parallels with England, who have not reached a tournament final since 1966 but whose broadcasting and commercial income makes them among the wealthiest nations in football.

The FA released a statement late on Saturday to declare that no short list had been drawn up and that no salary had been discussed. Mourinho has given no indication of what financial terms he would require but it is known that he was Chelsea's highest-paid employee on more than £5m a year. It is reasonable to expect that a commensurate offer might be required.

It is encouraging, then, that despite the strain of Wembley - which will require subsidies from its parent company, the FA, until its 13-year construction loan is paid off or refinanced - Soho Square officials have hinted at their willingness to divert whatever funds are necessary to get their appointment right.

"Resources and money are all issues for down the line," said a senior FA source. "But finance for the FA is not an issue. Wembley has a business plan in place and the rest of the organisation is in the best financial health it has been in its history.

"This is about getting the right man for the job. There are only so many managers who fit the profile; we're talking about get- ting a world-class manager to make England into a world-class team again. Sir Trevor [Brooking] and Brian [Barwick] will do that."

strider
03-12-2007, 02:42 PM
Just think yourself lucky that you don't follow Newcastle :D

synergy777
03-12-2007, 02:48 PM
my cousins support the toon.old sam ia misfiring. i can't belived he played martins on the right flank, wtf. martins is your most gifted skillfull striker. with your players all fit, you have good team.

strider
03-12-2007, 04:02 PM
yeah we have an o.k. team for sure, but our whole backline is severly lacking in prem experience.. Only 2 out of 6 regular defenders have prem experience and one of them is only 21.. He plays owen and viduka no matter what, and then slags martins off for not scoring enough even though he has scored more than either of them.. And has been playing people out of positiion all season.. And to add to that, we look like a team of statues at times.. There's been no creativity in the midfield all season and they seem like a whole football pitch away from the forwards at times... Man, shall I go on as I could do all day long..:D

resistance
03-12-2007, 04:18 PM
yu have half ov the leeds utd players that went down a few seasons ago that alone should be worrying:D gooners for the title for me and won ting for sure itz not gonna be the tooners..

synergy777
03-12-2007, 04:35 PM
man u for the title, just await our post christmas surge. arsenal play the most pure football, but we have a better squad. a couple of injuries to arsenal, and it will get hard for them.

cruise4
03-12-2007, 04:44 PM
Chelsea is almost a metaphor for the NWO the way its now controlled. But I will also miss Mourinho. He did bring a certain something to proceedings.

Not sure about England Manager though. Mourinho's teams tended to be a bit dull... efficient and occasionally great, but they were no Arsenal. I think the English team needs to all out attack. There's far too much caution exhibited at times and I think that begins with the manager.

synergy777
03-12-2007, 04:56 PM
i think he changes his teams to the players and objectives he has. look what he did with porto, no manager has ever took a team like to porto, with its limited budget won the uefa cup and champions league in two successive years. that itself is football folklore.

i think england should have the back 4 of cole, terry, rio and carragher/richards. this a solid two centre halfs, with two attacking fullbacks, who can overlap the two wingers. our wingers should be joe cole and beckham/phillips or pennant. we should have hargreaves holding, and gerrard attacking. with rooney and owen up front.

this side is as good as any in the world. he should get the players to play with english speed/courage and never give up attitude. also the technical ability of these players, they should introduce the possesion/continental aspect into the game. if they can play this hybrid style in champions league, why can't they play it at international level ?

secondly, we fans have to support and stop criticising our players, they are under huge pressure, and to be frank, are nervous due to the expectations/hassle they get from us. they are scared to put a foot wrong, so play nervously, due to the fear of making mistakes. they need support, thus increased confidence. they play like scared teenagers, we should support our team more in times of trouble, not criticise them.

when someone is nervous, under pressure, when they are given support the result is confidence, thus increased confidence improves their performance, berating them only makes them play worse.

as for the money issue, thats due to football being entertainment. many crap actors make worse films and get paid more, an no one attacks them.

support our lions. to play for and manage england is a honour. personally i think the manager's job in football, is one of the best jobs in the world.

cf24
03-12-2007, 06:07 PM
Thats just it Syn, football is all about confidence and belief.... A few good results is all it takes to get that belief/confidence back into a team then way to go.

At least you guys are in the Prem, getting to watch the cream of the worlds talent week in week out. The gap now between the Championship and Premiership is getting bigger, and the money isn't getting spread around fair and square. This wont be good in the long term as so much of the young British talent is in the lower leagues yet to be discovered.....

synergy777
03-12-2007, 06:26 PM
the thing is we were playing like a team before the 4 mins of madness in russia. the 2/3 games before, barry was awesome then confidence dropped. we didn't have anyone after the "illegal" penalty against russia (it was out the area), to rally the troops.

no one on the pitch, said, lads, step up, get tight/marking/pressing, lets outdo these lot, we are better etc. when you go a goal down, there are two things.

1: you come back harder, better, quicker.

2: its statistically proven, a team is at its weakest after they score a goal,

so after russia had scored, a captain, should have these two things in his mind straight away, there wasn't anyone. he should have said lets attack them, they are buzzing and not thinking straight, lets get our second.

as for croatia, fear after two quick goals. this compounded the shocking acts of professional ineptitude by maclaren. he was too much of a nice guy/great coach, you have to have a mean/clinical streak aswell a nice guy streak.

1: he should have kept robinson, all he had to say was, after the last croatia game(airkick), this is you chance to get back at them, to prove them wrong, to show them you are worldclass. this would have put robbo is even more determined mood to play better.

2:he should have kept the same formation with barry and gerrard, the 442. he should have played crouch and defoe upfront. these two changes, which if liked them so much, why did he not try them against austria at the weekend game before.

3:he also should have used this formation to get the players adjusted against austria (isn't the point of friendlies to try out new tactics/players?) and/or rested the main players in austria game before croatia. this would have prevented owen's injury. its just shambolic, that these basic things are overlooked.

off my soapbox, i was gutted, stiil am, its sad, but football, you gotta love it. i still pissed off about euro/world cup, lol

what team do you support

cf24
03-12-2007, 06:37 PM
We've had years of it... I'm a Cardiff City fan for all my sins! We were sat at the top of the Championship for two months last season, then bang, loose a couple and the confidence goes, coupled with injuries etc, and the slide continued....

We've wasted a lot of money by championship standards this season on Fowler/Hasselbaink. Both on £15-20K per week which is ludicrous at this level, and both of their legs have gone....

The gap between the Prem/Championship is the biggest concern. Its massive. I can see a break away league coming in the not too distant future....

synergy777
03-12-2007, 06:50 PM
you had michael chopra, the first asian footballer on your books aswell, he is at sunderland now. you have huge potential, being wales capital city etc. championship football, is i guess the real "home" league, the premiership is the worlds league, like nba is for basketball.

premeirship clubs should do more tie ups with championship teams in regards to loaning players, this would help develop our british based players. it true, we are on a downward spiral in the amount of players, however quality wise our players are still up there. thats one good thing about spurs, they have brought good english players, like dawson, lennon, bent, huddlestone, bale. etc

personally i think we have to have a culture change, we need to promote the techinical/artistic/creative side. we need to let players express themselves. look at messi, small, skinny player. in english football system, players like zola, messi, would never make it due to being small. but these players, are what you cannot defend against. why do brazil win, not because defence, tactics, because, as much as you want stop/combat creativity, there are things you cannot control/legislate for.

kids should use the brazil small footballs until 15/16, they should spend more time, developing skills, tricks, both feet, getting a good first touch etc than playing matches all the time.

ask yourself, why street kids from south america, africa etc end up more skillfull than our academy kids? ajax have the right philosophy.

http://www.footballeconomy.com/

cf24
03-12-2007, 06:58 PM
you had michael chopra, the first asian footballer on your books aswell, he is at sunderland now. you have huge potential, being wales capital city etc. championship football, is i guess the real "home" league, the premiership is the worlds league, like nba is for basketball.

premeirship clubs should do more tie ups with championship teams in regards to loaning players, this would help develop our british based players. it true, we are on a downward spiral in the amount of players, however quality wise our players are still up there. thats one good thing about spurs, they have brought good english players, like dawson, lennon, bent, huddlestone, bale. etc

personally i think we have to have a culture change, we need to promote the techinical/artistic/creative side. we need to let players express themselves. look at messi, small, skinny player. in english football system, players like zola, messi, would never make it due to being small. but these players, are what you cannot defend against. why do brazil win, not because defence, tactics, because, as much as you want stop/combat creativity, there are things you cannot control/legislate for.

kids should use the brazil small footballs until 15/16, they should spend more time, developing skills, tricks, both feet, getting a good first touch etc than playing matches all the time.

ask yourself, why street kids from south america, africa etc end up more skillfull than our academy kids? ajax have the right philosophy.

http://www.footballeconomy.com/

Yeah, Chopra did well for us last season. He was the reason we were at the top! Then Sunderland come in with £5M offer, which we had to take, plus I thought that Chopra had found his level, and wouldn't be able to cut it in the prem, which looks about right at the moment. Good business, but we have Peter Ridsdale in charge, so bang goes the money...Lol.

We have huge potential, yes, but thats all it is at the moment. We have a so many people who support Man U/Liverpool in S.Wales because we have had to put up with lower league football for so long. It will take a long time for us to get that fan base back watching us, we need Premiership football back basically!

synergy777
03-12-2007, 07:05 PM
risdale, good luck, lol.

whats the stadium capacity, i know swansea just had a new stadium built. if someone with money loked at the demographics of cardiff, they could see it as good investment. as a good home team there, with its huge population would be ripe for investment. you need at least 35,000 to 40,000 to get the revenues to do well. look at wigan small crowds, but rich chairman, and its a rugby town.

synergy777
03-12-2007, 07:09 PM
i remember about 3/4 years ago or more, i can't accurately remember the exact date, anyway in fourfourtwo magazine, they had robin friday in it, he played for cardiff.

http://www.reading-mad.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=EDZ2&id=266738

Robin Friday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


check this site.
http://www.punkfootball.co.uk/?page=shop/index

cf24
03-12-2007, 07:13 PM
Our current stadium is just over 20,000 but we have a new 30,000 stadium which is being built as I type. What we really need is someone with the vision and the cash, as the catchment area is huge. We had 45,000 fans in the millenium stadium for our play off final when we got promoted to the championship, and the club said we could have sold another 20,000 if they were given the tickets....

We also have an emergency board meeting called for this week as the owners of our debts are ready to pull the plug. We could be in admin within weeks!

Its a bit messy to say the least....

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2007/12/03/you-ll-never-get-your-hands-on-cardiff-city-91466-20196292/

cf24
03-12-2007, 07:16 PM
i remember about 3/4 years ago or more, i can't accurately remember the exact date, anyway in fourfourtwo magazine, they had robin friday in it, he played for cardiff.

http://www.reading-mad.co.uk/news/loadfeat.asp?cid=EDZ2&id=266738

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Friday


check this site.
http://www.punkfootball.co.uk/?page=shop/index

Yeah, Robin Friday! definite legend, but wasted talent.... The Super furry animals have him on the cover of a single of theirs....

http://www.superfurry.org/images/covers/themandontgiveafuck.jpg

synergy777
03-12-2007, 07:21 PM
wales got good music, i like stereophonics, and are ash or feeder from wales. you got the manics aswell. old sam hamman, from wimbledon weren't he. as risdale, well i don't leeds so nice 1, lol.

cf24
03-12-2007, 07:29 PM
Cardiff are officially credited with starting the demise of Leeds united in 2001. We played them in the F.A cup. Leeds were sitting proud at the top of the premiership, and we beat hem 2-1 at Ninian Park. Very hostile night, lots of trouble. Leeds were relegated that season as they never recovered from that night onwards....Lol. Nobody likes Leeds anyway!

This was the scene at the end of the match....

http://www.geocities.com/footballviolence1982/leeds3.jpg

synergy777
03-12-2007, 07:33 PM
cardiff, i salute you!

i gotta go now, chat laters bro.

1love/peace

cf24
03-12-2007, 07:37 PM
Laters Syn........