Tory plans for education

[bluefeather]

A few days ago someone posted information on ms Hope’s thread ‘child stealing by the state’ in respect to ark and academies replacing state schools in the UK. I feel compelled, having just watched Cameron on the BBC news, outline his plans for education, to point the following out:

The Tories wish to make all state schools academies; this is well documented in ‘The great City Academy Fraud’ for example.

In his ‘manifesto’ earlier on Cameron said that he wanted high flyers from businesses to be able to be fast tracked into teaching. What he doesn’t say is that the reason for this is so that it will make the transition from state education to ‘education plc’ far easier, since it will be met with less resistance. How do I know this? The government has been doing this for the last 6 years with Head teachers. – Heads that come from business are more likely to vie for academy status as it appeals to their business ethos.

Cameron also stated that he wanted to give teachers greater control, and that for far too long parents have had control instead. He wants exclusions to be decided by the Head Teacher, with no right of appeal. At the moment, the only schools that can do this are independent schools and academies, because they do not have a democratically voted in board of governors. Parents, will, no doubt be rubbing their hands with glee over this rather misleading proposal, but be careful; no right of appeal means yet another civil and legal right is being taken away from parents.

Cameron went on to say he will scrap the current GTP (graduate teacher training) route and replace it with ‘teach now’; it will focus on recruiting business high flyers. At best, this will allow a huge new influx of business people teaching our children, and widen the scope for less resistance when the proposal to turn into an academy inevitably raises its ugly head; at worst these business people may well be common purpose trained.

link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8464916.stm

[passing]

I suppose it's fair enough to have business-minded teachers in schools, so long as there is a balance with anti-business-minded teachers and couldn't-give-a-shit-about-business-minded teachers.

If they want only business-minded teachers, and I suspect they do, they're obviously hoping to produce only business-minded school-leavers, which means death to creativity and independent thought... bit by bit...

[bluefeather]

Having worked in a foundation school I can confirm that your suspicion is correct.

[grannymoose]

It is simple. Teach them yourselves. A dog is for life not just for christmas remember? you don't send the pup away to learn how to poop outdoors.

[passing]

It is simple. Teach them yourselves. A dog is for life not just for christmas remember? you don't send the pup away to learn how to poop outdoors.

Well yes, I agree, but 'simple' is a bit optimistic!

[ignoranto_bliss]

It is simple. Teach them yourselves. A dog is for life not just for christmas remember? you don't send the pup away to learn how to poop outdoors.

A wife is for life ! And you dont send her away to learn how to poop outdoors :eek:

[jiffy]

Well yes, I agree, but 'simple' is a bit optimistic!


Or you could argue, things are made 'simple' if you make them so.;)

(we home tutor)

[passing]

Or you could argue, things are made 'simple' if you make them so.;)

(we home tutor)

Good for you! :)

If I had a young 'un on the way, I'd be seriously considering it...

[rodin]

I suppose it's fair enough to have business-minded teachers in schools, so long as there is a balance with anti-business-minded teachers and couldn't-give-a-shit-about-business-minded teachers.

If they want only business-minded teachers, and I suspect they do, they're obviously hoping to produce only business-minded school-leavers, which means death to creativity and independent thought... bit by bit...

I fear it is not so much 'business' (ie work as opposed to shirk) minded people they want to produce as unfree thinkers.

Creative people are most valuable in a truly free market. We have Marxism

[passing]

I fear it is not so much 'business' (ie work as opposed to shirk) minded people they want to produce as unfree thinkers.

Creative people are most valuable in a truly free market. We have Marxism

Yeah, it's about conformity. How long until 'free thinker'= 'terrorist" ?

[jiffy]

I fear it is not so much 'business' (ie work as opposed to shirk) minded people they want to produce as unfree thinkers.

Creative people are most valuable in a truly free market. We have Marxism

Interesting analogy...So Marx, advocated business education and apposed creative thought.

And fascism encouraged free thought and none business ideology

[passing]

Interesting analogy...So Marx, advocated business education and apposed creative thought.

And fascism encouraged free thought and none business ideology

Hmm... I think I can see how the state can function with its own rules, whatever ideology they may constitute (for better or worse)... but 'normally' that is separate from individual lives to some extent... the real shocker, which we are seeing, is when the state tries to brainwash the people into being little puppets of the state.

It feels a bit like being surrounded by people who have opinions like the classic militant-feminist "every man is a potential rapist"... potential free-thought is seen as potential enemy-status... so they 'nip it in the bud' by turning people away from their own potential before they even know about it.

...I'm told, by a friend who's been doing a PGCE (teacher training), that teachers and trainee-teachers have to wear suits...

[neutrino]

He wants exclusions to be decided by the Head Teacher, with no right of appeal.

Good, that means bullies can get kicked out and the good pupils can go to school and get a proper education without worrying about the bully scumbags and the disruption they cause.

[passing]

Good, that means bullies can get kicked out and the good pupils can go to school and get a proper education without worrying about the bully scumbags and the disruption they cause.

That's true, if everything works as it should and mistakes never happen...

[bluefeather]

Good, that means bullies can get kicked out and the good pupils can go to school and get a proper education without worrying about the bully scumbags and the disruption they cause.

That is exactly how a lot of parents will respond, I suspect; however, exclusions can result for a variety of reasons, including the parents refusing to sanction particular school policies. A whole policy change is being implemented here for ALL due to the actions of a few; essentially this mirrors what is happening in society as a whole, and in my opinion, it is wrong.

[keithm]

education,education,education,ain't we heard this all before,

cameron really is blair Mk2,

and the sheep will believe it.

[grannymoose]

Well yes, I agree, but 'simple' is a bit optimistic!

Simple it is. It's taking that first step in doing so that is the hardest.
you don't have to see the whole staircase, just take the steps.

[bluefeather]

As I mentioned in my original post, the tories want to make all schools academies:

“The Conservative leader suggested some would be turned into semi-independent academies and others face competition from new schools set up by businesses, parents and charities.”


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1244326/Tories-target-coasting-schools-Standards-suburbs-rise-says-David-Cameron.html#ixzz0d2pLWs5H

Welcome to the UK PLC.:mad:

[mikey mikey]

Tories resent education of the many. Labour want to dictate it.