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tinmenace
20-09-2007, 12:21 AM
In an interview published in the September-October issue of Tikkun magazine, Moran said the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) “has pushed this war [in Iraq] from the beginning … They are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful — most of them are quite wealthy — they have been able to exert power.”

...In an interview published in the September-October issue of Tikkun magazine, Moran said the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) “has pushed this war [in Iraq] from the beginning … They are so well organized, and their members are extraordinarily powerful — most of them are quite wealthy — they have been able to exert power.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) lashed out at fellow Democratic Rep. Jim Moran at a press conference Tuesday, criticizing the Virginian’s recent comments about a Jewish political organization.

“His remarks were factually inaccurate and recall an old canard that is not true, that the Jewish community controls the media and the Congress,” Hoyer said, even though no one had asked him about Moran’s remarks.

Source (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/hoyer-blasts-rep.-moran-on-aipac-remark-2007-09-19.html)





http://www.globalfailure.com/images/aipac.jpg


Uh, not so inaccurate, Sir :rolleyes: Just because you say it's inaccurate doesn't mean that it is actually inaccurate, considering the very shady business that AIPAC is in.

Let's take a look at some more info about this ZIONIST organization:


AIPAC's original name was the American Zionist Committee for Public Affairs

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee#History)


What a surprise....:rolleyes:



AIPAC'S "Achievements"
[Whatever, losers!]


Strengthening U.S.-Israel homeland security cooperation by passing landmark legislation creating an office within the Department of Homeland Security to support joint research and development projects between the United States and key allies such as Israel.
Calling for the strengthening of UNIFIL’s mandate to stop arms shipments to Hizballah across the Syrian border by supporting a letter signed by 104 House members.
Highlighting the need to stop weapons smuggling in Gaza through a letter signed by 32 senators urging the United States to press Egypt to take action.
Passing a House resolution congratulating Israel on the 40th anniversary of the Six-Day War, praising the Jewish state for reunifying Jerusalem and protecting religious freedom in the city, and calling on the president to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
Reiterating standards for the Palestinian government through letters signed by 259 House members and 79 senators urging the EU and United States not to provide aid or grant recognition to any Palestinian government until it fulfills internationally backed requirements.
Securing critical foreign aid to Israel, which totaled $2.46 billion in 2007 and provided military and economic assistance.
Prohibiting U.S. aid and contacts with the Hamas-led PA until its leaders recognize Israel’s right to exist, renounce violence and ratify previous Israeli-Palestinian peace agreements.
Extending U.S.-backed loan guarantees to Israel until 2011 and renewing the authority to transfer U.S. military equipment to be stored in Israel for use in a potential crisis.
Ratifying an agreement that led to the Israeli medical service Magen David Adom’s admission to the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement (IRC).
Condemning Iran for holding a conference casting doubt on whether the Holocaust happened. The resolutions reproached the anti-Semitic statements made by Iranian leaders and asserted the United States’ commitment to preventing a nuclear Iran. [What? Other countries don't get FREEDOM OF SPEECH??]
Passing the Iran Freedom Support Act, which renews and strengthens sanctions aimed at curtailing funds and international cooperation necessary for Iran to pursue nuclear weapons.
Passing the Iran Libya Sanctions Act, which seeks to reduce funds for Iran's nuclear weapons program by allowing sanctions against foreign companies investing in Iran's energy sector.
Reauthorizing the Iran Nonproliferation Act to include sanctions against entities providing technology to the missile and weapons of mass destruction programs of both Iran and Syria. [Please note that Israel is somehow exempt from the Nuclear Proliferation Act :rolleyes:]
Fostering U.S.-Israel homeland security cooperation by supporting the countries' efforts to sign a landmark Memorandum of Understanding and taking U.S. homeland security professionals on trips to Israel to meet with their Israeli counterparts.
Passing congressional resolutions that demonstrate overwhelming support for Israel's right to self-defense in the face of attacks by Hizballah and Hamas.
Designating Hizballah's TV station as a terrorist entity through legislative language as well as support of a letter to President Bush signed by 51 senators.
Passing the Syrian Accountability Act, which allows the president to sanction Syria for its continued involvement in Lebanon and support of terrorism.
Increasing military aid to Israel during the height of the Palestinian intifada by working for $1 billion in government grants that help cover the escalating costs of the war on terrorism.
Keeping world pressure on Hamas, by working to pass a House Resolution before PA elections that warned of serious policy implications for U.S.-Palestinian relations should Hamas be part of the Palestinian government.


AIPAC.COM (http://www.aipac.org/about_AIPAC/default.asp)




Tell me, who do you think controls America's foreign policy? Is there any fucking doubt in your mind that the Zionists are the puppeteers?


David Steiner had to resign when he was tape recorded boasting about his political influence in obtaining aid for Israel. Steiner claimed that he had "met with (then Bush U.S. Secretary of State) Jim Baker and I cut a deal with him. I got, besides the $3 billion, you know they're looking for the Jewish votes, and I'll tell him whatever he wants to hear... Besides the $10 billion in loan guarantees which was a fabulous thing, $3 billion in foreign, in military aid, and I got almost a billion dollars in other goodies that people don't even know about." Steiner also claimed to be "negotiating" with the incoming Clinton administration over who Clinton would appoint as Secretary of State and Secretary of the National Security Agency. Steiner stated that AIPAC had "a dozen people in [the Clinton] campaign, in the headquarters ... in Little Rock, and they're all going to get big jobs."

Haim Katz told the Washington Times that he taped the conversation because "as someone Jewish, I am concerned when a small group has a disproportionate power. I think that hurts everyone, including Jews. If David Steiner wants to talk about the incredible, disproportionate clout AIPAC has, the public should know about it."

A Zogby poll conducted in 2004 found that 61% of respondents "strongly or somewhat agree" that AIPAC should be asked to register as a foreign agent and lose its tax exempt status, while only 12% strongly or somewhat disagree that it should.

Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee#Controver sies)




Smiling to their faces and stabbing them from behind. What filth!



Espionage allegations

In May 2005, the Justice Department announced that Lawrence Anthony Franklin, a U.S. Air Force Reserves colonel working as a Department of Defense analyst at the Pentagon in the office of Douglas Feith, had been arrested and charged by the FBI with providing classified national defense information to Israel. The six-count criminal complaint did not identify AIPAC by name, but described a luncheon meeting in which, allegedly, Franklin disclosed top-secret information to two AIPAC officials.


In April 2005, AIPAC policy director Steven Rosen and AIPAC senior Iran analyst Keith Weissman were fired by AIPAC amid an FBI investigation into whether they passed classified U.S. information received from Franklin on to the government of Israel. They were later indicted for illegally conspiring to gather and disclose classified national security information to Israel.


In May, 2007 AIPAC agreed to pay the legal fees for Weissman's defense through appeal if necessary.


Lawrence Anthony Franklin pleaded guilty to passing government secrets to Rosen and Weissman and revealed for the first time that he also gave classified information directly to an Israeli government official in Washington. On January 20, 2006, he was sentenced to 151 months (almost 13 years) in prison and fined $10,000. As part of the plea agreement, Franklin agreed to cooperate in the larger federal investigation.


Rosen and Weissman are still awaiting trial. Trial had been scheduled for June 4, 2007, but was postponed until January 14, 2008.


!!!!!!!!!!! Several high ranking Bush administration figures who have been subpoenaed about the matter include [U]Condoleezza Rice, Richard Armitage, and William Burns amongst others !!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee#Controver sies)








Ok, so here's my question....Why is it soooo important that Israel exist? Other than the obvious political power...what is it about THAT region? What is it? What is it that convinces the Religious Right that Israel has a right to cause and perpetuate unrest and unspeakable suffering because of some bullshit "Chosen People" fable?

I can't help but feel that there is something else going on. Are these people direct descendants of the Anunnaki? Is there a going "home" and Jerusalem is the launch site? WTF is really going on here?

I mean, I'm at a loss. I understand the politics, and I understand the manipulation, and I understand the biblical thing, but it still doesn't add up. What is going on here?

Why do they oppress the REAL Semites, and claim to be Semites themselves when the majority of them are NOT. I don't understand. Please, someone enlighten me.

eternal_spirit
20-09-2007, 01:00 AM
Good post seems to be much accurate info. The question you ask is the 6 million dollar question. :confused:

edro9494
20-09-2007, 09:55 AM
the more i think about it, it makes more sense that someone is behind the zionist jews manipulating them because they are so obvious beyond inspection. they do a poor job covering their tracks. these people are so cocky and arrogant about how 'awesome' and righteous they are by DNA and how they can do no wrong. so in conclusion, i think some genius is behind this zionist level of the conspiracy pulling their strings because once you look for the zionist control of society its so pervasive and right in front of your nose.

will the clues and levels ever stop? will we ever discover who is at the stop of the pyramid? perhaps it really is this reptilian race just as icke claims and lays out the evidence for.

john67
20-09-2007, 10:04 AM
"why do zionists insist that israel exist?"

That is not quite right, the zionists quote is that the palastinians "must acknowledge israels RIGHT to exist". And there is the problem. How can the Palastinians acknowledge that when Israel is on what was there land?

in my opinion it was worded that way so that there can never be a peace process.

eternal_spirit
20-09-2007, 10:11 AM
"why do zionists insist that israel exist?"

That is not quite right, the zionists quote is that the palastinians "must acknowledge israels RIGHT to exist". And there is the problem. How can the Palastinians acknowledge that when Israel is on what was there land?

in my opinion it was worded that way so that there can never be a peace process.
..............

Yes they wan't to rebuild Solomons Temple, but they reckon the muslim Mosque is on the original temples site. so they wan't to demolish the mosque to rebuild the temple.

john67
20-09-2007, 10:59 AM
I would reccomend a very good video (1 hr 40 mins) called The Doomsday Code

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6439295521791525424&q=the+doomsday+code&total=21&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

It is Tony Robinsons documentary about the american right wing christian nutters, the israelis, the mount, the rapture and how they all are cheering on armageddon.

mcmenek1
20-09-2007, 10:14 PM
Ok, so here's my question....Why is it soooo important that Israel exist? Other than the obvious political power...what is it about THAT region? What is it? What is it that convinces the Religious Right that Israel has a right to cause and perpetuate unrest and unspeakable suffering because of some bullshit "Chosen People" fable?

I can't help but feel that there is something else going on. Are these people direct descendants of the Anunnaki? Is there a going "home" and Jerusalem is the launch site? WTF is really going on here?

I mean, I'm at a loss. I understand the politics, and I understand the manipulation, and I understand the biblical thing, but it still doesn't add up. What is going on here?

Why do they oppress the REAL Semites, and claim to be Semites themselves when the majority of them are NOT. I don't understand. Please, someone enlighten me.

Hi tinmanace,

That is a very good question what the hell is going on in that area?.......to find the answer to that question we need to look beyond the manipulated drama being played out in our five sense world.......in that region of the middle east there lies a multidimensional gateway or portal this gateway is controlled by the reptilians

The whole conflict in that area has been set up deliberately by the reptilians to produce the food source of fear for themselves......at the highest levels they control Israel and her enemies such as Hamas and they play them off against one another to produce their food source of fear by causing death pain and misery for the people in that region.

As the higher energies enter through this gateway raising the Earths vibration they counteract this by causing wars, death and suffering.......they are upsetting the natural harmony and balance of this dimension to stop the higher vibration energies coming in.

It is becoming harder for them to stop the higher vibrations coming in and their food source is diminishing......the whole scenario around Temple Mount has been set up for a reason that reason is to create a major conflict.......I can see something happening at Temple Mount that will cause chaos in that area........this will be a desperate last ditch attempt by the reptilians to stop the inevitable happening

Here is an excerpt from ‘Bringers of The Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak....... which makes interesting reading...... the word ‘Lizzies’ use in this excerpt refers to the reptilians

As the frequency of fear begins to diminish upon this planet, many activities will be promulgated to bring about an increase in fear because those who live off the fearful frequency will be losing their nourishment, their food. They will make an attempt to reinstate that frequency before they change their nourishment to the new frequency of love. The Lizzies have set Earth up with devices that can broadcast and magnify the emotional turmoil on this planet. That turmoil is sent to them, and it sustains them in some way.

In order to come to a planet, you must have a portal or way to get into it. You could fly into space, say to Jupiter, but if you never find the portal that allows you to enter the planet's time frame of existence, you could land on a place that looks desolate and without life. Portals allow you to enter the dimension of the planet where life exists. Portals open onto the corridors of time and serve as zones of multidimensional experience.

There have been different portals on Earth that have allowed different species, creator gods from space, to insert themselves. One of the huge portals that presently is being fought over is the portal of the
Middle East. If you think back over the history of Earth, you will recognize how many dramas of religion and civilization have been introduced in that portal. It's a huge portal-with a radius of a thousand miles or so. This is why there is so much activity in the Middle East. This is the portal that the Lizzies use.

To some extent, the Lizzies have controlled this portal. They have used this area to create their underground bases and caverns, from which they operate. The ancient civilization of Mesopotamia,
between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers, was a space colony where a certain civilization was introduced.

Is this the real reason for the Iraq war and the on going death and suffering to feed the reptilians in that area.......

Kuwait sits at the mouth of this territory. This is a portal that involves manipulation of the human population to serve the needs of others.

The creator gods are coming back to raid you again because they don't want to starve. They understand that there is "systems busting" going on through you, so they are here to create greater havoc and fear, to
fight once again for this territory. Their food source is important to them. They are losing control of the planet, so they are going back to their prime portal in the Middle East, where their nest is located
underneath the ground, to create fear and chaos.Source ‘Bringers of The Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak


I hope this helps in some way to answer your question.....

Love
&
Peace

tinmenace
20-09-2007, 10:23 PM
Hi tinmanace,

That is a very good question what the hell is going on in that area?.......to find the answer to that question we need to look beyond the manipulated drama being played out in our five sense world.......in that region of the middle east there lies a multidimensional gateway or portal this gateway is controlled by the reptilians

The whole conflict in that area has been set up deliberately by the reptilians to produce the food source of fear for themselves......at the highest levels they control Israel and her enemies such as Hamas and they play them off against one another to produce their food source of fear by causing death pain and misery for the people in that region.

As the higher energies enter through this gateway raising the Earths vibration they counteract this by causing wars, death and suffering.......they are upsetting the natural harmony and balance of this dimension to stop the higher vibration energies coming in.

It is becoming harder for them to stop the higher vibrations coming in and their food source is diminishing......the whole scenario around Temple Mount has been set up for a reason that reason is to create a major conflict.......I can see something happening at Temple Mount that will cause chaos in that area........this will be a desperate last ditch attempt by the reptilians to stop the inevitable happening

Here is an excerpt from ‘Bringers of The Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak....... which makes interesting reading...... the word ‘Lizzies’ use in this excerpt refers to the reptilians

Source ‘Bringers of The Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak


I hope this helps in some way to answer your question.....

Love
&
Peace

Ah yes! This makes sense to me. I believe this information. Thank you for taking the time to respond.

Although unrelated in a dimensional way, I will post some info a little later on about archaeological facts concerning the Temple Mound.

razed1
29-09-2007, 08:15 PM
informative

also think why its called teh STATE of israel, not the country or republic

its a STATE, just like new york, like california

the STATE of israel which is owned by the same britsh monarchy that owns the united STATES

infinitely free
30-09-2007, 06:55 PM
'Who Is Really Behind The Masks? (http://judicial-inc.biz/Mississippi_burning.htm)' - the site features a pic, of an aparent 'islamist', who's got the Star of 'David', tatooed on his chest! Check it out ;)

emerald
30-09-2007, 08:35 PM
Hi tinmanace,

That is a very good question what the hell is going on in that area?.......to find the answer to that question we need to look beyond the manipulated drama being played out in our five sense world.......in that region of the middle east there lies a multidimensional gateway or portal this gateway is controlled by the reptilians

The whole conflict in that area has been set up deliberately by the reptilians to produce the food source of fear for themselves......at the highest levels they control Israel and her enemies such as Hamas and they play them off against one another to produce their food source of fear by causing death pain and misery for the people in that region.

As the higher energies enter through this gateway raising the Earths vibration they counteract this by causing wars, death and suffering.......they are upsetting the natural harmony and balance of this dimension to stop the higher vibration energies coming in.

It is becoming harder for them to stop the higher vibrations coming in and their food source is diminishing......the whole scenario around Temple Mount has been set up for a reason that reason is to create a major conflict.......I can see something happening at Temple Mount that will cause chaos in that area........this will be a desperate last ditch attempt by the reptilians to stop the inevitable happening

Here is an excerpt from ‘Bringers of The Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak....... which makes interesting reading...... the word ‘Lizzies’ use in this excerpt refers to the reptilians

Source ‘Bringers of The Dawn’ by Barbara Marciniak


I hope this helps in some way to answer your question.....

Love
&
Peace



Hamas is not the enemy of Israel, but its created and used in order for us to believe so. Its just another "child" of MOSSAD, but nothing new, isnt it?

mcmenek1
30-09-2007, 09:15 PM
Hamas is not the enemy of Israel, but its created and used in order for us to believe so. Its just another "child" of MOSSAD, but nothing new, isnt it?

Hi emerald,

Yes that is correct the intelligence services of countries often set up and control opposing organizations to cause conflict in certain areas.......to control a conflict you need to control both sides in that conflict so you can achieve the desired outcome.....

Love
&
Peace

julieray
30-09-2007, 10:12 PM
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/


This is a very good website full of information regarding Palestine and Israel amongst others. If you click on Kolvenbach, it gives a very detailed pyramid of ranking too, which I found very informative :)

tinmenace
30-09-2007, 11:04 PM
Hamas is not the enemy of Israel, but its created and used in order for us to believe so. Its just another "child" of MOSSAD, but nothing new, isnt it?

No Ma'ame. Nothing new ;)


That is why Sleeza Rice and the rest of them actually ALLOWED the elections to happen, and to have HAMAS elected before objecting a few years ago.