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teslafire
19-09-2007, 07:16 PM
http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/Russia091807

18 September 2007: Russia is back to their old tricks. Better still, they never stopped them. In addition to arming our enemies like Iran and Syria, they are now playing dangerous war games reminiscent to the warmer periods of “the Cold War.”

Drowned out in the media by tales of O.J. and Brittney, it is probably news to the majority of Americans that as you are reading this, Russian strategic bombers are conducting a series of long-range training flights, complete with aerial refueling, simulating a full-fledged nuclear cruise missile strike on the Continental United States. These exercises, conducted in a time when world tensions continue to mount, are scheduled to continue through September 21st.

Russian strategic bombers Tu-160, Tu-95 and Tu-22M3, and Il-78 aerial tankers are engaged in this exercise, which in all practicality, could “go live” at any time, and the U.S. would have precious little warning should the unthinkable occur. Accordingly, these Russian exercises can and should be viewed as "Warning Order" exercises which could be executed against the Continental United States and our allies imminently - even during the execution of the announced “exercises” themselves. In that case the exercise would no longer be an exercise, but a real-world pre-emptive nuclear strike by Russian cruise missiles.

It is important to point out that all military forces exercise such capabilities for a variety of reasons. One of the primary reasons, however, is to be able to execute such a mission as effectively as possible when such an order is issued. In August, Moscow announced that flights by strategic bombers have not only resumed, but would continue to be flown on a permanent basis. According to intelligence sources, Russian aircraft equipped with cruise missiles could strike between 172 - 192 target locations (depending upon their weapon configuration) inside the U.S. with little warning. They appear to be flying sorties to forward launch points prior to the exercise, then are refueled in -flight to get them within range of the Continental U.S., but remain just outside of our air defense envelope to enable a launch followed by escape and evade back to their home bases.

In September 2006 Russian strategic aviation conducted simulated nuclear strikes within the contiguous territory of the Russian Federation. That exercise reportedly involved 60 long-range bombers of the same variants seen airborne in the exercise currently in progress. The difference is that in the exercise of 3 and 4 September, as well as the current 18-21 September exercise, the targets of the nuclear cruise missiles are not within Russian territory but are in fact once again real-world locations within the continental United States. To my knowledge, exercises of this scale with massed strategic, long-range aircraft of 12 or more in a single sortie, accompanied by long-range refueling aircraft, over a period of several days and in such a configuration that the Russian aircraft aloft could strike a couple hundred U.S. cities, military targets and infrastructure with 200kt nuclear weapons evokes images of a modern day, albeit nuclear, ‘Pearl Harbor.’

This is inherently dangerous business. In fact, it is my opinion that such exercises are a direct threat of nuclear warfare against our homeland by Russia; there is no other way in which to view ‘exercises’ like these.

crowhawk
19-09-2007, 07:51 PM
I think this was in reply to The US plan to site strategic nuclear missiles on Russia's borders in Eastern Europe. "They arm our enemies like Syria & Iran" yeah because they're EVIL right? We all know that, it's not like you have to go & see for yourself is it? I don't really think that The US Dept Of Homeland Security is exactly a trusted site for reliable, unbiased information. Britain recently agreed to spend £12 billion on upgrading it's nuclear capability & the US is presently engaged in destroying half the Middle East in what amounts to the worlds biggest ever armed robbery with over a million dead civilian casualties.

december
20-09-2007, 03:17 AM
I can see that the article was written by a liberal dude who is looking for sensation to sell his writings...

:)

Just for the record - every nation which has nukes practice pre-emptive strikes.
I mean... what's new with that?
If you have a gun you practice to use it. Correct?

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NATO Is Getting Closer To Russia's Borders
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5851

teslafire
20-09-2007, 05:38 AM
I think this was in reply to The US plan to site strategic nuclear missiles on Russia's borders in Eastern Europe. "They arm our enemies like Syria & Iran" yeah because they're EVIL right?

I agree, but I think it may be part of the narrative buildup to actual conflict with Russia.

horus21
20-09-2007, 05:55 AM
If that were the slightest bit true, there would not be thousands upon thousands of russian migrants allowed to get citezenship status in the allied contries, as is happening now. When there is a delay, they even get a government pension which provides them with an average weekly wage.
Wake up, this is bullshit. The NWO is so far into itself, there is no real power to eradicate left, apart from korea which is still a controversial topic.

Relax... We will die anyway:) Then we can be in peace together -Hopefully

teslafire
20-09-2007, 06:03 AM
The article is to be taken as stage directions for the NWO.

There has never been any real lasting resistance to the NWO for the last 10,000 years.

horus21
20-09-2007, 06:06 AM
exactly. sortof demeans the point of all this then doesnt it.
Maybe we are slaves with supressed meaning- meaning which has not and will never matter on levels above prayer, birth and meditation.

Who knows huh

ashyr
20-09-2007, 12:31 PM
so while he is doing the test sessions. he is actually carrying payload?

horus21
20-09-2007, 12:51 PM
so while he is doing the test sessions. he is actually carrying payload?

GLOBAL SOCIAL ENGINEERING

crowhawk
23-09-2007, 03:41 PM
The article is to be taken as stage directions for the NWO.

There has never been any real lasting resistance to the NWO for the last 10,000 years.

10,000 years, Sort of a contradiction in terms calling it a "NEW World Order" then??

horus21
23-09-2007, 03:44 PM
10,000 years, Sort of a contradiction in terms calling it a "NEW World Order" then??

go back to your nest

crowhawk
23-09-2007, 03:52 PM
[b]I can see that the article was written by a liberal dude who is looking for sensation to sell his writings...

:)

Just for the record - every nation which has nukes practice pre-emptive strikes.

I think you'll find that only one country has ever "practiced" a preemptive nuclear strike on another country? Then after they practiced, they dropped another, just to keep in practice! I know of only one country which has actually used nuclear weapons?

crowhawk
23-09-2007, 04:01 PM
go back to your nest

Oooh touchy!:eek:

eat_a_grey
23-09-2007, 05:55 PM
I am one of those that was unfortunately brainwashed by the cold war paranoia in the 60's-70's-80's.To the point where I still to this day have horrific nightmares of nuclear holocaust on a regular basis!

Personally,I wanted nothing more than to kill these bastards with EXTREME prejudice,so I enlisted into the U.S Army as a young man,just because I wanted to kill commie's for mommies!

Of course now I realize that all of this was a crock of shit for the military industrial complex to exploit our fear for huge profit's and more control over the masses.

I only wish I would stop having these nightmares though,after 30 + years of them,it really wears on a person. :mad:

soglad
23-09-2007, 05:59 PM
I am one of those that was unfortunately brainwashed by the cold war paranoia in the 60's-70's-80's.To the point where I still to this day have horrific nightmares of nuclear holocaust on a regular basis!

Personally,I wanted nothing more than to kill these bastards with EXTREME prejudice,so I enlisted into the U.S Army as a young man,just because I wanted to kill commie's for mommies!

Of course now I realize that all of this was a crock of shit for the military industrial complex to exploit our fear for huge profit's and more control over the masses.

I only wish I would stop having these nightmares though,after 30 + years of them,it really wears on a person. :mad:

I can see where you're coming from. Being deluded by people you trusted is a horrible thing to come and realize.

I've talked to you a lot about it, you know you're right, leaving was the best thing you could've done in my opinion. Now you can look at these guys and laugh. These skinhead idiots preaching Bush propaganda like it's gospel.......make you sick, eh??

:rolleyes:

december
23-09-2007, 08:52 PM
I think you'll find that only one country has ever "practiced" a preemptive nuclear strike on another country? Then after they practiced, they dropped another, just to keep in practice! I know of only one country which has actually used nuclear weapons?

I see your point.
Yes america is the only country which used nukes, but I was talking about PLANNING an preemptive nuclear strike. If you have a gun and if you plan to live then you have to use it first or you are dead.

Of course the world have to get rid of the nuclear weapons but it seems like the US doesn't want to hear about it...
The same can be said about Britain.


Putin Warns - Russia Must Respond To Bush Nuclear Provocation On Its Borders

In regard to the U.S. deployment of missile defense systems on the Russian border, Putin said (excerpts taken from the Spiegel interview): "Once the new missile system is established, it will function in an automatic mode, linked to the entire nuclear potential of the USA. For the first time in history, components of the American nuclear system will be established on the European continent - that changes the whole configuration of international security. We are being told that this is to protect against Iranian missiles.

http://rense.com/general76/putind.htm


Trident - Britain's weapon of mass destruction
Trident is a US nuclear system. The US provides assistance to Britain with its nuclear programme under the 1958 US-UK Mutual Defence Agreement.

The UK Trident uses US Trident II D5 missiles, which are maintained and tested in the United States.
The UK Trident warhead is closely based on the US Trident W76 warhead and was tested at the US Nevada Test Site.
The UK maintains close links with the US nuclear weapons laboratories, on "stockpile stewardship", ie maintaining and developing nuclear warheads.
The UK relies on US satellite navigation, intelligence and targetting information
UK nuclear policy is closely synchronised with the US and NATO.

http://www.cnduk.org/pages/binfo/ttus.html


Blair: we must renew Trident

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/VirtualContent/84882/mushroomcloud.jpg


http://www.greenpeace.org.uk/MultimediaFiles/Live/Image/8078.jpg

Matthew Tempest and agencies
Monday December 4, 2006
Guardian Unlimited


Tony Blair today recommended that Britain renew its Trident nuclear deterrent into at least the middle of the century, calling it "the ultimate insurance".
But the prime minister told MPs it would be possible to cut Britain's stockpile by 20%, leaving fewer than 160 operationally available warheads.
However, he did not announce a reduction in the number of Trident-carrying submarines based at the Faslane base in Scotland from four to three, instead saying a decision would wait until more detailed designs of submarines was available.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/nuclear/article/0,,1963536,00.html



http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/5/53/300px-Trident_II_missile_image.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfpmhAF6_YE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuhVE9o4-Ww

eat_a_grey
23-09-2007, 11:11 PM
One 'good' thing is that I totally live in ground zero.

Speaking of Tridents,I live about 15 miles from here

Strategic Weapons Facility, Pacific (SWFPAC)
Bangor, Washington (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/facility/bangor.htm)

AKA ground zero

december
24-09-2007, 08:42 PM
Speaking of Tridents,I live about 15 miles from here

Strategic Weapons Facility, Pacific (SWFPAC)
Bangor, Washington (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/facility/bangor.htm)

AKA ground zero

Not a safe place to live... You'd better move out in time...

Btw, does this dock look like a pyramid in US dollar bill (this picture is from your site)?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/facility/images/bangor_DELTA01.jpg