Jesus loves you

[orlibonurb]

Here I Am
Here I Am - YouTube

[eustacekidd]

What if you don't love Jesus? Nah I'm just kidding he's cool.

[michael christopher]

Satan loves you more! ;)

[thelucifer]

Jesus loves me this I know
because orli tells me so
orli wants me to be saved
but thats just not happening

yes jebus loves me
yes jebus loves me
yes jebus loves me
cause orli tells me so :D

[orlibonurb]

"Revelation Song" - Gateway Worship, Song led by Kari Jobe
"Revelation Song" - Gateway Worship, Song led by Kari Jobe - YouTube

[pogma]

Religion is based on LIES.
The only people promoting it are dumbassed, delusional, or well aware of the con.

[mikey mikey]

While I appreciate the sentiment, I cannot listen to this music.

For me the music that speaks of Him is not some coffee table watered down R&B or folky muzak and it is not so conspicuously American.

Music for Him should be something of talent and devotion. For example

Spem In Alium Thomas Tallis - YouTube
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Gregorian Chant Benedictinos - YouTube

[deafbred]

and they shall marvel to see the beast

[deafbred]

While I appreciate the sentiment, I cannot listen to this music.

For me the music that speaks of Him is not some coffee table watered down R&B or folky muzak and it is not so conspicuously American.

Music for Him should be something of talent and devotion. For example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cn7ZW8ts3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82L8AaqA-Dc&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MbDqc3x97k&feature=related

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1144269&postcount=5

[mikey mikey]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1144269&postcount=5

Thanks for that. I will shelve that on the "what the fugg are you on about" shelf.

[mrs houdini]

Hello All,
First let me point out I am not posting here to disrespect any one's religious belief's but why if you all believe in a God does it really matter how you worship him/her and how do you all argue about which one is the right one this has bothered me for some time. I live in the West of Scotland and we suffer from sectarianism catholic v prodestant both side's claiming to be christian's but when I was young we were not allowed to intermarry between these faith's so it resulted in my partner and I living together because we were from differant religious background's. Each person to there own.
Love Eternal,
Linda

[oioioi]

Does he watch me when I wank?

[zenith82]

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk287/nightpaths/jesuslovesyou.jpg

I'm sorry but you walked right into that one :D believe it or not i'm actually a catholic lol.

[krakhead]

Satan loves you more! ;)

Nah. He just says that. He never returns your calls, doesn't do all those little things that made you like him in the first place and has a lot more 'meetings' these days that keep him in work past 5 :(

[michael christopher]

Nah. He just says that. He never returns your calls, doesn't do all those little things that made you like him in the first place and has a lot more 'meetings' these days that keep him in work past 5 :(

Maybe he's just not that into you. He does all those things for me, AND he's great in bed.

Also, those "meetings" are with me. You got played, sucker.

[quetzalcoatl]

I'm sorry but you walked right into that one :D believe it or not i'm actually a catholic lol.

Nah. He just says that. He never returns your calls, doesn't do all those little things that made you like him in the first place and has a lot more 'meetings' these days that keep him in work past 5 :(

Maybe he's just not that into you. He does all those things for me, AND he's great in bed.

Also, those "meetings" are with me. You got played, sucker.

Ya'll going to hell!! :rolleyes: - I'll see ya there! :rolleyes:

:D

Seriously tho, Jesus does love us in-all... I do however, get the feeling he's going to be doing a lot of 'table-turning' on his return... (I know it's near useless being serious about this with some of ya...) - just in a general sense & sincerely un-related to any of ya here...

It'll happen! ;)

[michael christopher]

Ya'll going to hell!! :rolleyes: - I'll see ya there! :rolleyes:

:D

Seriously tho, Jesus does love us in-all... I do however, get the feeling he's going to be doing a lot of 'table-turning' on his return... (I know it's near useless being serious about this with some of ya...) - just in a general sense & sincerely un-related to any of ya here...

It'll happen! ;)

After I'm dead, I'd be happy to go wherever the Christians are avoiding.

[quetzalcoatl]

After I'm dead, I'd be happy to go wherever the Christians are avoiding.

I wasn't serious... - in-case ya couldn't tell... :p Yet now I will be; I really don't think ya have much of a choice or, quite paradoxically, you have infinite choice & what you think, you will see... - basically I think we all generally end up in the same realm... ;)

[michael christopher]

I wasn't serious... - in-case ya couldn't tell... :p Yet now I will be; I really don't think ya have much of a choice or, quite paradoxically, you have infinite choice & what you think, you will see... - basically I think we all generally end up in the same realm... ;)

No! Not again!

That means I'm already in Hell.

:D

[quetzalcoatl]

No! Not again!

That means I'm already in Hell.

:D

Don't tempt 'it' - it can always get worse! :D

;)

& just to add substance; un-conditional love, yet chance of eternal damnation??? - I dun think so! ;)

[deafbred]

says the cat

http://images.vinylpulse.com/add-wm.cgi/vp_pics/cheshire_cat_show/DSCN8965_500.jpg

Tts 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled.

Hello All,
First let me point out I am not posting here to disrespect any one's religious belief's but why if you all believe in a God does it really matter how you worship him/her and how do you all argue about which one is the right one this has bothered me for some time. I live in the West of Scotland and we suffer from sectarianism catholic v prodestant both side's claiming to be christian's but when I was young we were not allowed to intermarry between these faith's so it resulted in my partner and I living together because we were from differant religious background's. Each person to there own.
Love Eternal,
Linda

no arguing here


2Cr 10:5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,

2Tim.2.23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.

1Ti 6:4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions,


they just want a FIGHT. i laugh. things are pretty self evident, and i take no part in their wicked works.

:) now, my smile, is no revile. but pure joy, in the truth of Christ, Day or Night, no Plight, no Fight. For our enemies are already destroyed. Self condemned.

[orlibonurb]

Don't tempt 'it' - it can always get worse! :D

;)

& just to add substance; un-conditional love, yet chance of eternal damnation??? - I dun think so! ;)


and where exactly did you take the "un-conditional love" part from ? Surely not from the Word of God.

[infidelyork]

Does he watch me when I wank?

No. But Dennis at No.34 does. Draw your curtains for Christ sake man.

[sofa king]

and where exactly did you take the "un-conditional love" part from ? Surely not from the Word of God.



how would you know?

I haven't seen you quote the word of God yet

[mikey mikey]

For our enemies are already destroyed.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Matthew 5:43-48

[orlibonurb]

Rescue - We Need You Jesus
Rescue - We Need You Jesus - YouTube

[mikey mikey]

Why on earth do you think that bland derivative conspicuously american christian rock is going to help?

Regardless of lyrical content, that sort of trite unoriginal Bruce Hornsby wannabe ballady muzak is just awful.

Music to the Lord is unmistakable.
Pie Jesu - Live at Armagh Cathedral - YouTube

[michael christopher]

Tts 1:15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled.

Hmm, so if you are so pure, then how can you judge me and call me impure? According to the Bible passage, you can't. I mean, if you are pure, then that means I am pure, right? And yet, you are implying I am impure.

Which is it, Christian?

[deafbred]

Does he watch me when I wank?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99337

_______________________
Hmm, so if you are so pure, then how can you judge me and call me impure? According to the Bible passage, you can't. I mean, if you are pure, then that means I am pure, right? And yet, you are implying I am impure.

Which is it, Christian?

Hbr 5:8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered.

Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,

Hbr 5:11 About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

I am not perfect. I'm a sinner. We are made pure by repentance. Gata keep walking yo, in forgiveness and love.

1Pe 4:6 For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.

1Cr 5:12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

Im not judging you. I think you are LIGHT. But your covering it in darkness. Why? We could sit here all day judging one another, but then we would be having all kinds of evil thoughts in our minds. Who am I to judge THE SOULS of men... you got a soul man.. you are just like me in that respect

[michael christopher]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99337

_______________________


Hbr 5:8 Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered.

Hbr 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him,

Hbr 5:11 About this we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

I am not perfect. I'm a sinner. We are made pure by repentance. Gata keep walking yo, in forgiveness and love.

1Pe 4:6 For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.

1Cr 5:12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?

Im not judging you. I think you are LIGHT. But your covering it in darkness. Why? We could sit here all day judging one another, but then we would be having all kinds of evil thoughts in our minds. Who am I to judge THE SOULS of men...

Your mind must race with all kinds of conflicting thoughts. You can say that you don't judge me all that you want, but the fact of the matter is you believe non-Christians are going to Hell and part of your religion is that you believe they should go to Hell for sinning. This is called judgment. You can frame it up however you want, you can paint pretty butterflies around it, but you are judging people. Your religion requires that you judge people. Your God is an extremely harsh judge of character according to the Bible, and you are bound to stand by all of his decisions - thus his decisions are your decisions. You don't even know what a God is. Because you're the one that is dull of hearing and of sight. A God is a lens through which you see the world. It's an archetype. A spirit. The God you identify with most is that which you secretly really are. Your God is full of hatred, judgment and destruction - which he admits quite frequently. What do you think this says about you?

[deafbred]

Jhn 8:15 "You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one.


Your mind must race with all kinds of conflicting thoughts. You can say that you don't judge me all that you want, but the fact of the matter is you believe non-Christians are going to Hell and part of your religion is that you believe they should go to Hell for sinning. This is called judgment. You can frame it up however you want, you can paint pretty butterflies around it, but you are judging people. Your religion requires that you judge people. Your God is an extremely harsh judge of character according to the Bible, and you are bound to stand by all of his decisions - thus his decisions are your decisions. You don't even know what a God is. Because you're the one that is dull of hearing and of sight. A God is a lens through which you see the world. It's an archetype. A spirit. The God you identify with most is that which you secretly really are. Your God is full of hatred, judgment and destruction - which he admits quite frequently. What do you think this says about you?



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058550823&postcount=28


Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged,
each one of them, according to what they had done.

Its not "Religion" its 'REALality'

Mat 10:16 "Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves, so be wise as serpents and innocent as doves.

I am being Gentle with you Michael .. I Love you.

God is Love yo

Scripture:
when the authorities ask jesus a question, they said "Good teacher, tell us..."
Jesus said..
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

what are you going to write in your book Michael?

Rev 1:11 saying, "Write what you see in a book and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus and to Smyrna and to Pergamum and to Thyatira and to Sardis and to Philadelphia and to Laodicea."

http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-continents-map.jpg


Im trying to point out Mike, that the culture your involved in, the Spirit of it, is DEATH. Why should you die a second death? There is no 'good' reason man.


Its not you I am judging.. but the self evident works of the flesh. "you join" it. You go down with "the destruction" of it.



I hope your hearing me. fellowship in love should not be denied. there is no reason why. (i cry. 0_0) you are LIGHT, shine!

If anyone says, "I love God," but hates a Christian brother or sister, that person is a liar; for if we don't love people we can see, how can we love God, whom we have not seen?
--1 John 4:20

Lev 19:17 "You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him.

Im trying.. Im putting myself out there for you.

Why worry about a speck in your friend's eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying, `Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,' when you can't see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log from your own eyes; then perhaps you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye.
--Matthew 7:3-5

i don't see all, or hear all.. im not perfect. but im being perfected, as long as i walk and not just talk the talk. im learning.. i don't know it all.

Quote from website:
"I have found that when I am busy taking care of God's business, I don't have time to worry about what someone else is doing. God judges the motives, not the actions of mankind. Who is capable of judging the heart except God? Why would I even want to do it? A better way to say it is:"

Who are you to judge another man's servant?
--Romans 14:10

Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. Love does not demand its own way. Love is not irritable, and it keeps no record of when it has been wronged. It is never glad about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful and endures through every circumstance. Love will last forever ...
--1 Corinthians 13:4-8

[deafbred]

Man, I hope Mikey Likes it, im trying to Give him....







http://www.imommies.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/life-cereal.bmp

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:jd9wyoxM6TuZYM:http://img.youtube.com/vi/vYEXzx-TINc/0.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:HfEpGhe1JeoHtM%3Ahttp://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp166/substrukrecords/Mikeylikesit.png

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:Qxzj7wWQc0vXKM:http://www.frankwbaker.com/lifecereal.jpg

[mikey mikey]

I see your taste in breakfasts is on a par with your taste in music.

Now THAT is a breakfast.

http://www.thirleybanks.co.uk/images/breakfast_big.jpg

Though I do also enjoy something lighter when in warmer climes.

http://www.esngenova.it/files/imagecache/locandina_pagina_evento/files/images-locandine/colazione.jpg

and every so often I like to have something exotic

http://www.rasamalaysia.com/uploaded_images/japanese_breakfast/japanesebreakfast4_s.jpg

But NOT friggin cereal. Banal crap that it is.:mad:


Carrry on:)

[pogma]

Does he watch me when I wank?

Oh yes he does, and he's recording it all on DVD...excuse me, Bluray.

[michael christopher]

Hey guys, here is a hint to help you stop wasting your time: If I see a large block of quotes from the Bible, I don't read your post. So stop making long posts that no one is going to read. Plz k thx.

[orlibonurb]

Yes, short phrases only deafbred. Short span attention is fashionable these days (Michael).

[pogma]

Yes, short phrases only deafbred. Short span attention is fashionable these days (Michael).

It's bad enough having to read a one liner loaded with BS, so please refrain from dropping oversized turds.

[deafbred]

I understand what you guys are saying, and even while i was posting it, i knew i was getting a lil overboard. im not going to disagree, i HEAR what you are saying. i will try in be more on target, ~on the fly~ in future posts concerning worldwide all encompassing communication speech.

anyways, i don't like to read long posts either, i don't care what it is. if i see a long post, i usually put it into this here..

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=72411

it helps me out a lot with reading stuff on the forums. hope it helps you to.

bye

[measle_weasel]

While I appreciate the sentiment, I cannot listen to this music.

For me the music that speaks of Him is not some coffee table watered down R&B or folky muzak and it is not so conspicuously American.

Music for Him should be something of talent and devotion. For example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cn7ZW8ts3Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82L8AaqA-Dc&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MbDqc3x97k&feature=related

Amazing, thanks for posting.

[mikey mikey]

Amazing, thanks for posting.

My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed.

[jerry54]

Every Prophet/Messenger of God Almighty loves you and all of us . amen .

[infidelyork]

Every Prophet/Messenger of God Almighty loves you and all of us . amen .

Absolutely. Obviously it depends on WHICH Prophet and Messenger you believe in though, because didn't you know, the rest are all liars! What I am looking for is a Prophet/Messenger who claims to love me, but also threatens to send me and my loved ones to Hell if I don't obey him, THAT'S the sort of love I need, a bit like a sadomasochism club in Soho, only without the cover charge for the drinks.....

[deafbred]

Absolutely. Obviously it depends on WHICH Prophet and Messenger you believe in though, because didn't you know, the rest are all liars! What I am looking for is a Prophet/Messenger who claims to love me, but also threatens to send me and my loved ones to Hell if I don't obey him, THAT'S the sort of love I need, a bit like a sadomasochism club in Soho, only without the cover charge for the drinks.....

take responsibility for yourself. everyone is going to get what each one deserves. are you going to blame god for your works? are your deeds going to condemn you, or set you free? what is the truth? no lie is of the truth. anyone who says they are without sin, makes jesus a liar.

do you love the darkness? or do you love the light? those who are walking in darkness do not know where they are going. those who do not enter light are evil. you cannot hide in darkness. all are exposed and naked before the lord. do you want to be seen ? than you would walk in light, and you would know your self, and you would know where you are going, to hell, or everlasting life. love casts out fear, those who fear expect to be punished, anyone who fears has not been perfected in love.

question yourself, test yourself. work out your own salvation. god doesn't want you to burn in hell. satan does. and what satan owns, he has dominion over. he has right to your life, by the law you abide in, when you signed your life and contracted your soul over to his hands. how is god going to save you when you are defiled? god cannot touch no unclean thing. you must wash your garments and cleanse your inner temple body. your deeds build a new lump of clay... the old rots away. become born again. spirit, water. testifies to the truth of your walk and talk.

god doesn't resist you, love is patient and reproves and disciplines those who wonder off from the path of light and life. make it straight. to the gate, along a narrow rope. walk the bridge to deliverance. don't worry about me or what i say. just find your way. jesus is a representative for us all who are with him. he will confess you to the father, if you accept him. how can anyone deny the truth? only if they hate the light. it has arrived into the world, but people rather walk in the dark because their deeds are wicked. "Give us Barabas" they say/said..


then they go to bed. without shedding a tear. they do not fear. the lord thy god. hard headed and stubborn.. dull of hearing astray sheep. led by the bread crumbs of thief's. corrupting the lot of them who follow their course. twisted warped word. scourge.

don't be a friend of the world. no one cares for you the way i do. the love of god. the god of love. speaking words through me to you, lets not make this personal. just glue, your shoes, to walk in light, and fight for times, when you shall not compromise, or hide thy eyes, away from the light.

an enemy of god wishes to please the world. you cannot serve two masters or else you will hate the one and love the other. don't be self divided. be ONE. as you were when you were a child. before the world led you astray. the children had a lot of questions, but no one was willing to speak the truth to them. only taught them the ways of this world and how to go about greedily taking heart in darts of profit coins.

what happened to the laughter of a child in harmony? it was put up and shut up by hardened hearted worldly people. saying to them.. "you will see, you will know and finally find out, that when you grow up, you will die" sowing seeds into their hearts, so they fall in the dark of thy grave words.

manifesting a disaster among us all. now they say "i told ya so(w)"

how unfair it is. how ridiculed and abused we all are. how bizarre. sheep's amongst wolves. piercing us with their eyes, we see through their disguise. but it effected us.. when we took part in their works. hating and being hated. decaying all amazing.

god is waiting

each one of us is precious

[infidelyork]

take responsibility for yourself. everyone is going to get what each one deserves...blah blah...
You didn't catch the hint of sarcasm in my post then?
Your tambourine banging posts about Satan are wasted on me. I don't believe in fairy tales.

[deafbred]

You didn't catch the hint of sarcasm in my post then?
Your tambourine banging posts about Satan are wasted on me. I don't believe in fairy tales.

"you will not be moving on" "you are on the chopping block"

[evenus_cinatus]

"you will not be moving on" "you are on the chopping block"

The question is will you wield the axe as the executioner thinking you are serving God or will you let God do His own dirty work? Only a weak false "God" needs servants to help him with the killing of unbelievers. Do you have Faith enough to leave God's work in God's hands?

[orlibonurb]

God (Jesus) is just. No sin will inherit the kingdom of God, period.

Since we are all sinners, we need to be spiritually washed and forgiven of our sins by repentance (turning around from our sins) and putting our trust is Jesus alone.


1 Corinthians {6:9} Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, {6:10} Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. {6:11} And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

If you think man can be a good judge, just wait for the true Judgment Day to see true & poetic justice.

You think you can get away with all the abominations you have commited in life and still blame God for your own actions, you really need a reality check.




No

Sin

Will

Inherit

The

Kingdom

Of

God.




Blame yourself for not accepting the free gift of eternal salvation.

It's a gift, it's free, it's eternal. If you refuse to accept it, you'll be denied the Kingdom of God, but you'll get what you wished for instead - which is total seperation from the living God.

No wonder alot of people hate the Bible and Jesus, see - you have to give everything to Him. All your heart to Him. No wonder people flee to horrendous false teachings such as Buddhism, Hinduism, New Age and so on and so forth. It's pleasing for your hears isn't it. Jesus who was God manifested in the flesh died for you and people still rebel and rebel and rebel. Everyone will get what they want in the end.


|-|

This is your life.

|--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is eternity with no end.


It's going to be a long time folks. One "hell" of a long time. Be wise. Jesus loves you. You may live 70-80 years, what is that compared to your eternal destiny. You'll meet a perfect judge, be very wise. There is no middle ground, you either choose the Devil or the living God. You may not believe in both, but they do believe in you.

[evenus_cinatus]

What does God need with a starship?
What does God need with a Bible?
What does God need with servants?
What does God need with sacrifices?
What does God need with priests?
What does God need with messengers?
What does God need with offerings?
What does God need with money?
What does God need with Temples and Churches?
What does God need with Holy Warriors?
What does God need with a Sole Representive on Earth?
What does God need with Blood?
What does God need with gifts that are his to begin with?
What does God need with anything we offer Him?

Just recognize that He exists and live your life as you see fit.
Just observe the Wonders and Beauty of the Universe and enjoy their existence.
Just be and Evolve the Love in your Heart for He is all around us.

[orlibonurb]

He obviously gave us the Bible (His word) so we could know who He is and what He wants from us.

John {5:39} Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. {5:40} And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


Priests have nothing to do with Christianity but with Roman Catholicism.

Sacrifices were Old Testament / Old Covenant material of salvation. Jesus brought a New Covenant.

A sole representative on earth ? Noone represents Jesus. The living God is sovereign.

You can surely live your life as you see fit, but you will not inherit His Holy kingdom. You have broken his law (the BIG TEN).

[kasalt]

He obviously gave us the Bible (His word) so we could know who He is and what He wants from us.

John {5:39} Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. {5:40} And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


Priests have nothing to do with Christianity but with Roman Catholicism.

How do you think we got the canon of the New Testament?

[evenus_cinatus]

You can surely live your life as you see fit, but you will not inherit His Holy kingdom. You have broken his law (the BIG TEN).

Ten only because we have 10 fingers, easier for the Evil God to
brainwash children. If we had twelve fingers, what would the
additional two be?

[orlibonurb]

How do you think we got the canon of the New Testament?


Roman Catholicism has nothing to do with the Bible.

[orlibonurb]

Ten only because we have 10 fingers, easier for the Evil God to
brainwash children. If we had twelve fingers, what would the
additional two be?


No sense.


Ten commandments are enough to show us our true nature. They are perfect and Holy, we are not. Have you broken the perfect law (the Big Ten) or not ?

[kasalt]

Roman Catholicism has nothing to do with the Bible.

The earliest Christian writer to mention four gospels is Irenaeus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in 160 AD (as stated in his Against Heresies 3.11.8 (http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.iv.xii.html)), so it is true that by at least his time the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were well established and considered to be scripture on a par with the Old Testament. But the rest of the New Testament canon was not established until two centuries later.

The earliest point at which we come to an attempt to establish a New Testament canon that begins to roughly approximate the list of books that we have in our New Testament today was put forward by Origen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in the 2nd century, AD. His list differed from ours in that he did not include the books of Hebrews, James, II Peter, II and III John, and Revelation. Additionally, his list included as canonical a book called The Shepherd of Hermas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia--a book of prophecy which many early Christians regarded as inspired instead of the book of Revelation.

It wasn't until the year 367 AD that a bishop of Alexandria in Egypt put forward a list of New Testament books that matches the list we have today. That bishop's name was Athanasius of Alexandria - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. In the year 382, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Damasus promulgated a New Testament canon which contained a list of books that was identical to the list put forward by Athanasius. The North African Synod of Hippo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, in 393, approved the 27-book New Testament canon.

Aside from helping to establish the canon of the New Testament, Athanasius is also remembered for his attendance at the First Council of Nicaea. Athanasius attended the Nicaean Council in part to argue against Arius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and his doctrine that Christ is of a distinct substance from the Father. (Athanasius died at age 80 in the year 373.) The First Council of Nicaea was convened by the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia in A.D. 325, some 42 years before Athanasius drew up his list of the New Testament canon.

My point is that the canon of the New Testament was established by a bishop of the Roman Catholic Church who was in communion with the bishop of Rome and the Roman Emperor Constantine!

[infidelyork]

It's a gift, it's free, it's eternal.

If you refuse to accept it, you'll be denied the Kingdom of God,
That's not a gift, that's called an ultimatum.

No wonder alot of people hate the Bible and Jesus, see - you have to give everything to Him. All your heart to Him.
Can I refer you to your previous quote...

It's a gift, it's free

:confused:

[orlibonurb]

That's not a gift, that's called an ultimatum.



That's not an ultimatum. It is a gift.

If someone offers you a billion dollars for free - & you either take it or refuse it - is that an ultimatum ? Obviously not. The gift is free, the choice is yours.

[evenus_cinatus]

No sense.


Ten commandments are enough to show us our true nature. They are perfect and Holy, we are not. Have you broken the perfect law (the Big Ten) or not ?

Moses broke the original Laws. Did God forgive him for doing that?

[orlibonurb]

Moses broke the original Laws. Did God forgive him for doing that?


Why did you avoid the question, are you Moses ?! The question was for you.

[tannah]

God (Jesus) is just. No sin will inherit the kingdom of God, period.


A case to be made for reinarnation then. Or do you think one should believe in a talking serpent?



Since we are all sinners, we need to be spiritually washed and forgiven of our sins by repentance (turning around from our sins) and putting our trust is Jesus alone.

No, there is need for that ritual.


1 Corinthians {6:9} Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?

Of course not, and since the Kingdom of God is actually with, a direct link to God, you can see that certain qualities don't access it, but are actually an attempt to fein righteousness within one self.

Hence reincarnation Orli. You alot a one time attempt, at the expense of most people in hell. I don't believe that.


If you think man can be a good judge, just wait for the true Judgment Day to see true & poetic justice.


This will indeed wake you up, seeing how righteous discernment should be performed. It isn't a "day" to fear at all.


You think you can get away with all the abominations you have commited in life and still blame God for your [I]own actions, you really need a reality check.

Is that what you used to do? Purity expects nothing less Orli. So get back on that wheel and stop thinking your present happy drug has shown you true reality.



Blame yourself for not accepting the free gift of eternal salvation.

What you're selling isn't a free gift, it's a turd wrapped up in an escape clause. I'm not signing that one. I don't believe in this version you're selling of God


It's a gift, it's free, it's eternal. If you refuse to accept it, you'll be denied the Kingdom of God, but you'll get what you wished for instead - which is total seperation from the living God.

Noone is wishing that man:mad: People are wise to reject what you're selling. Everyone is created to respond to the truth, and everyone will.


No wonder alot of people hate the Bible and Jesus, see - you have to give everything to Him. All your heart to Him. No wonder people flee to horrendous false teachings such as Buddhism, Hinduism, New Age and so on and so forth.

I agree with the giving of one's all, but again you can't help but spread falsity when you condemn these other things. That's what makes biblianity a very aggressive belief sytem.

People are wise to doubt what you believe. It's has less to do with hatred of Jesus and bible and more to do with being wise enough to know it doesn't paint the reality of God. Why are you evangelizing here btw? Banned everywhere else?



It's pleasing for your hears isn't it. Jesus who was God manifested in the flesh died for you and people still rebel and rebel and rebel. Everyone will get what they want in the end.

You're on judgement overload dude. Have a break and take some more of that holy helium gas and be happy.



It's going to be a long time folks. One "hell" of a long time. Be wise.

In hell?


Jesus loves you.

Christ is Love.




You may live 70-80 years, what is that compared to your eternal destiny.

Precisely why your belief system is silly, and worked more on the folk back then. I'm not expecting you to remotely see the injustice in you God's plans.



You'll meet a perfect judge, be very wise. There is no middle ground, you either choose the Devil or the living God. You may not believe in both, but they do believe in you.

You won't meet God until you are free from the attachments of duality, and through experience come to understand how to take on the Christ Body.

Youll be here on earth till you pass on Orli, like everyone else.

[evenus_cinatus]

That's not an ultimatum. It is a gift.

If someone offers you a billion dollars for free - & you either take it or refuse it - is that an ultimatum ? Obviously not. The gift is free, the choice is yours.

What if you refuse the billion dollars because you know it will corrupt you
and cause you to spread more evil in the world because of the temptation to abuse that much money. It is a Trick of Satan. Refer to the temptations of Jesus. Satan is offering you another bite of the Forbidden Fruit.

[deafbred]

Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all [men] liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
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people can hear, through others, the truth of the universal all encompassing word that connects we who are of "us" mentality.. to reveal a higher understanding, that is present, and obvious. it is in no need of subjugation to answer doubters of what we have heard and seen to perceive and know to be valid and truth filled from the begining of our walk with god.

those who resist do not hear the word, because they who are of themselves are a worldly spiritless enticement towards entrapment of all kinds in the revile of its dead escape way stray from eternal eddification onward today. i take no part in that desolate work, for it contains no fellowship, the language together would be babbled amoungst us, confusion and argument sets its claws in the tongue.

though some of us who are not familiar in the course of the crooked path, we who are of 'us' cannot deny the holy spirit which guides our ways out from a pit of stumbling towards love, that by which casts out all fear. punishment has no foothold.

in the "gossip" of the evil deeds, the wish is to lead astray, all from the way, of the righteous day. i wait, patiently, for all to see, because jesus arrived for you, all who are lost, and once were burdened by decietful sin. a slave no more, there is an open door. stop serving the whore. it really becomes a bore. over & over...chores of warpped servitude to shallow cowards.

[emerald]

Can Jizzus give me a good divine fuck?

[orlibonurb]

Or do you think one should believe in a talking serpent?

A talking serpent ? Just posted this, it's a quick read.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100510


Precisely why your belief system is silly, and worked more on the folk back then. I'm not expecting you to remotely see the injustice in you God's plans.

My friend, quite the opposite. Justice will be done. No sin will inherit His Holy and perfect Kingdom. Poetic justice will be done. God is love and just. If you think man can be a good judge, just wait for the glorious Judgment Day.


You won't meet God until you are free from the attachments of duality, and through experience come to understand how to take on the Christ Body.

Youll be here on earth till you pass on Orli, like everyone else.

Tannah, we are very close to finally meet God face to face (having in count that we are living in the "last days"). Very, very close.

What you're selling isn't a free gift, it's a turd wrapped up in an escape clause. I'm not signing that one. I don't believe in this version you're selling of God

Keep in mind I'm not "selling" anything. It surely is not an escape because Jesus came to give us abundant life. That is not what I call "an escape". I call it a blessing.

[orlibonurb]

What if you refuse the billion dollars because you know it will corrupt you
and cause you to spread more evil in the world because of the temptation to abuse that much money. It is a Trick of Satan. Refer to the temptations of Jesus. Satan is offering you another bite of the Forbidden Fruit.

Alright, exactly. Money will, indeed, corrupt you. But I was making an analogy.

1 Timothy {6:10} For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


Now, question (if you don't mind), will eternal life with your glorified body and sin free - be corrupt ?

[evenus_cinatus]

Now, question (if you don't mind), will eternal life with your glorified body and sin free - be corrupt ?

Sounds exactly like something Satan would say to Jesus. "All you have to
do Jesus is to worship me and only me, and you will get this perfect body."

It is the Fourth Temptation.

[orlibonurb]

Sounds exactly like something Satan would say to Jesus. "All you have to
do Jesus is to worship me and only me, and you will get this perfect body."

It is the Fourth Temptation.

You could stick to the subject. You are avoiding every single question, but I respect your choice to do so. We'll have to let it go, since it seems you don't care much for your eternal salvation.

[tannah]

My friend, quite the opposite. Justice will be done. No sin will inherit His Holy and perfect Kingdom. Poetic justice will be done. God is love and just. If you think man can be a good judge, just wait for the glorious Judgment Day.



on God's ability to judge I said this:


This will indeed wake you up, seeing how righteous discernment should be performed. It isn't a "day" to fear at all.

If God's nature were ruling in the hearts of man it would indeed be a world filled with peace and love. And, funnily enough that's how I see Man's destiny.

Your God is man-made, and the Living God is helping us see though these old images of deities. You're right, everything is on course, except not for your illusions to materialize.

Jehovah may be an advanced alien, but he ain't God. Move over Jehovah.

[orlibonurb]

on God's ability to judge I said this:



If God's nature were ruling in the hearts of man it would indeed be a world filled with peace and love. And, funnily enough that's how I see Man's destiny.

Your God is man-made, and the Living God is helping us see though these old images of deities. You're right, everything is on course, except not for your illusions to materialize.

Jehovah may be an advanced alien, but he ain't God. Move over Jehovah.

My friend, God gave us His word, the Bible which is ~25% prophetic giving us the end from the beggining.

God came in human flesh (Jesus Christ) to die for the sins you have commited. You, like me, have lied - in fact, I think it's fair to say we have lied so much that we just lost count to the number of times we have done it. We have also commited adultery, murder and blasphemy (you just called your Creator an "alien"). To top it of, if you break one of the Holy and perfect commandments just once in your life, you are guilty of breaking them all. Just once and you're done.

The living God is Holy, loving and just. He is very, very just. To the point where no sin will inherit His kingdom. That's why He came in human flesh to make the perfect sacrifice for you and me.

I do agree the big Day of Judgment is nothing to fear, for those who have their sins forgiven thou. It will be the worst possible day for all who stand alone before the Throne of God.

[deafbred]

1Ti 6:3 If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness,

1Ti 6:4 he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions,

1Ti 6:5 and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

2Ti 2:22 So flee youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.

(2Ti 2:23 Have nothing to do with foolish, ignorant controversies; you know that they breed quarrels.)
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Tts 3:9 But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

Tts 3:10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him,

Tts 3:11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned.

Jam 4:1 What causes quarrels and what causes fights among you? Is it not this, that your passions are at war within you?

Jam 4:2 You desire and do not have, so you murder. You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have, because you do not ask.

Jam 4:3 You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions.

Jam 4:4 You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jam&c=4&v=1&t=ESV#comm/2

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Rev 2:20 "'But I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols.

I CAN HEAR YOU
have you no Shame? only Blame? Fools.

[tannah]

My friend, God gave us His word, the Bible which is ~25% prophetic giving us the end from the beggining.

God came in human flesh (Jesus Christ) to die for the sins you have commited. You, like me, have lied - in fact, I think it's fair to say we have lied so much that we just lost count to the number of times we have done it. We have also commited adultery, murder and blasphemy (you just called your Creator an "alien"). To top it of, if you break one of the Holy and perfect commandments just once in your life, you are guilty of breaking them all. Just once and you're done.

The living God is Holy, loving and just. He is very, very just. To the point where no sin will inherit His kingdom. That's why He came in human flesh to make the perfect sacrifice for you and me.

I do agree the big Day of Judgment is nothing to fear, for those who have their sins forgiven thou. It will be the worst possible day for all who stand alone before the Throne of God.

You flit between the futility of works, then you hammer people on the head with the outcome of their works.

Answer this, if it is about having told a lie and stealing etc, then by the same token what happens to the good works a person has performed? Do they go to hell as well?

You make a mockery of things like compassion, because you assign no redeeming qualities to it.

What we're witnessing in you is selfishness reaching fruition. You think nothing of meeting your god up in the sky, with that phoney "they have only themselves to blame". That's the measure of your love. Th difference between me and you is that, I know full well what he deal with the bible is, and I've decided it's not fair, so I wouldn't side with a being that would condemn some rather nice people to hell. Sorry, the idea of eternal hell is monsterous. It makes heaven smell.

[orlibonurb]

You flit between the futility of works, then you hammer people on the head with the outcome of their works.

Answer this, if it is about having told a lie and stealing etc, then by the same token what happens to the good works a person has performed? Do they go to hell as well?

You make a mockery of things like compassion, because you assign no redeeming qualities to it.

What we're witnessing in you is selfishness reaching fruition. You think nothing of meeting your god up in the sky, with that phoney "they have only themselves to blame". That's the measure of your love. Th difference between me and you is that, I know full well what he deal with the bible is, and I've decided it's not fair, so I wouldn't side with a being that would condemn some rather nice people to hell. Sorry, the idea of eternal hell is monsterous. It makes heaven smell.

It's not fair ? You call it not fair for God to come down in human flesh to die for you and your sins ?

Really ?




The idea of hell is simple. No sin will inherit His holy, perfect and just kingdom. He made the rules, we all have broke them . . . . . with our thoughts alone.

Example, you may think you are a better person than Hitler, but you are not. Killing 6 million people or killing 1 is still what ? Yes, it is still murder. You are a murderer in God's eye. If you don't think there's a problem with this when facing a perfect Holy & just God, then my friend,

"Houston we have a (big) problem".


edit: make no mistake about this, when I talk about you, let me make it perfectly clear if there's anyone here who have broke all commandments and did not deserve to be saved, that is me. I'm as guilty as it gets of being a liar, murderer, blasphemer and every other word you can think of. Difference is, I have admited and asked, seeked and knocked. The door is opened for all who admit, knock & ask. Yes, even Hitler could have been saved. Talk about love and being merciful.


2 Peter {3:9} The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

[tannah]

It's not fair ? You call it not fair for God to come down in human flesh to die for you and your sins ?

Really ?


It's more to do with the lovely people going to hell, don't you CAPICE? It's BS, your mickey mouse version of God is a real affrontal to simple reason.
If you cant see the audacity of a place like hell as defined by you, then you need help. All you're really doing is Lording it over people like a regular psycho.





The idea of hell is simple. No sin will inherit His holy, perfect and just kingdom.

So what do you think you're doing down here?


He made the rules, we all have broke them . . . . . with our thoughts alone.

They are not rules, they are a state of Being, and it isn't He and it isn't She, but it is in you and it is in me, it comes about by wisdom in harmony.:)



Example, you may think you are a better person than Hitler, but you are not.

You've also implied that works don't get one to heaven, so why are we told to store them there? So, yes, I possess and love other kinds of qualities to those which motivated Hitler. Everyone that knows me would agree. Having to suffer the judgment of cowards like you who choose to hide it behind a bible, is what I'd call a doddle.




Killing 6 million people or killing 1 is still what ?

What happens if you haven't ever killed anybody? And, although one life murdered is too many, only an obsessive asshole would compare it to 6,000,000. Though you'd have more of a role model in Hitler, with that 6,000,000 figure and hell..



The door is opened for all who admit, knock & ask. Yes, even Hitler could have been saved. Talk about love and being merciful.


Been there, done it as a teen, the door opened and I am who I am today.


2 Peter {3:9} [I]The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

And we will and we will proceed on this glorious creative journey of life. It is Now. Always has been, can only be. This is for US to do here, and for us to report there on our way toward inner balance. Yep even Hitler can reach it.

[orlibonurb]

Alright, the sky is still blue.

Not green because you wish it to be so.



Maybe if you think really hard it'll become green uh. Welcome to the land of fantasy, to the time where "they shall turn their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables".

[tannah]

Alright, the sky is still blue.

Not green because you wish it to be so.



Maybe if you think really hard it'll become green uh. Welcome to the land of fantasy, to the time where "they shall turn their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables".

You horrible little man.:)

Green and blue don't exist outside thee mind. Wanna be stuck out there with no colours?

Same with sound. Out there it's just rythmical oscillations of air hitting your ears and it becomes sound as you know it. You don't think there's any sound out there do you? If a train flies by 10 metres away from you it's loud. 200 metres away it ain't so loud. The train did'n't make a loud noise for the person 10 metres away, and a quieter noise for the person 200 metres away. It's eerily quiet and colourless out there. Train your heart and your mind will follow.

Your 6000 year old universe Roman manipulated Soap Opera will run out of steam by 2050.

[orlibonurb]

You can't even understand such simple analogy.

[sofa king]

God (Jesus) is just. No sin will inherit the kingdom of God, period.



your posts show you to be very full of sin.

you are on the chopping block too