The decline of the Anglos

[december]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/BUCHANAN(COLOR)2.jpg

In Russia's Ulanovsk region, Sept. 12 is Conception Day.

Workers are given the day off and encouraged to go home and do their best to conceive a new Russian. The hope is to have a bumper crop of babies on Russia's national holiday, nine months off.

Conception Day has occasioned much mirth and ribald humor. But for Mother Russia, the issue of her children is no laughing matter.

Two decades ago, the Soviet Union was three times the size of any of the other giant nation – the United States, Canada, China, Brazil – and the third most populous, with nearly 300 million people. Came then the great crack-up of 1990-91.

The Baltic republics – Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia – broke free first. Next were Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova in the west; Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan in the Caucasus; and Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan in Central Asia.

These amputations removed a third of the territory and half the population of the Soviet Union. Yet the remnant, Russia, remained twice as large as any other nation and still boasted a population of 150 million.

Since the 1990s, however, Russia has been losing population at a rate of 750,000 a year – not to emigration, but to death. By one count, the Russian population is down to 143 million. President Putin has predicted that only 124 million Russians will be alive in 2015. In 2000, the United Nations projected that, at its present birth rate, by 2050 Russia's population would fall to 114 million.

In a 2005 study, the United Nations estimated that, together, Ukraine and Russia will lose 50 million people – 25 percent of their combined populations – by mid-century. The Slavs are dying out, and the geostrategic implications are enormous.

In a few decades, Turkey, which seeks entry into the European Union, will become Europe's most populous nation. Like Xerxes' bridge of boats across the Hellespont, Turkey will be the Asian land bridge into Europe, the Bridge of The Prophet into the homeland of the Christians.

As critical, the vast majority of Russians live west of the Urals, while east of Novosibirsk (New Siberia City), all the way to Kamchatka, the tiny Russian population is departing or dying out. Yet, in timber, oil and minerals, this is the most resource-rich region on earth. And south of Siberia lies the most populous and resource-hungry nation on earth.

American children born today may have Chinese for neighbors across the Bering Strait from Alaska.

Nor is it only the Slavic peoples who are expiring. So, too, are the native-born populations of Western and Southern Europe, as the empty nurseries of Europa fill with bawling Muslim babies.

Americans of European ancestry are also declining as a share of the U.S. population, down from near 90 percent into 1960 to 66 percent today. Anglos, as they are called now, are now minorities in our two largest states, Texas and California, and, by 2040, will be a minority in the nation that people of British and European stock built.

Last month, the Census Bureau projected the U.S. population would grow by 167 million by 2060, to 468 million.

And immigrants and their children will constitute 105 million of that 167 million. That would be triple the 37.5 million legal and illegal immigrants here today, which is itself the largest cohort of foreigners any nation has ever taken in.

With the 45 million Hispanics here to rise to 102 million by 2050, the Southwest is likely to look and sound more like Mexico than America. Indeed, culturally, linguistically and ethnically, it will be a part of Mexico.

Like Russians, Americans of European ancestry are failing to reproduce. Yet, a closer look reveals that population growth remains healthy among the religiously devout – evangelical Christians, Catholic traditionalists, Muslims and Mormons. Among the secularists, however, birth rates are far below Zero Population Growth – and the possibility of extinction looms.

One recent study found that the Jewish population in the United States fell by 6 percent in the 1990s, from 5.5 million to 5.2 million. Orthodox Jews, however, are known for families of five, eight or 10 children.

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and have dominion ... over every living creature." So reads Genesis. And so European Man once preached and practiced. But having lost his empires along with his faith, European Man no longer sees himself as commissioned by God.

Indeed, he no longer believes in God. Among our best and brightest are many whose purpose is to enjoy life to the fullest and to end it, when the time comes, as painlessly as possible.

Which seems to suit the rest of the world – China, India, Islam, Africa, Latin America – fine, as all look forward to a magnificent inheritance.

If demography is destiny, the West is finished. And, if so, does it really matter all that much who rules in Baghdad?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57687

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Guess what..


Whites are just going to be bred out. Deal with it.

[seanx]

Can not the moderators create a December thread where all
this White supermacy stuff can be posted without inflicting
it upon everybody.

Maybe a new section called; Crazy stuff

[december]

Guess what..
Whites are just going to be bred out. Deal with it.

Really? So you hate white people and want them to die?...



Can not the moderators create a December thread where all
this White supermacy stuff can be posted without inflicting
it upon everybody.

Maybe a new section called; Crazy stuff

Dude, where do you see White supermacy stuff?
What you are writing is just totally off the wall....

[archangel]

Guess what..


Whites are just going to be bred out. Deal with it.

EXCUSE ME???

Why is December a White Supremacist? He has preached nothing about Superiority or white dominance.

[revolutionary_jam]

i don't care what races get bred out even if it is my race because race doesn't matter.

[spacegurl]

This is a deliberate plan to eradicate a section of humanity. What's being done is sinister and also artificial.

[tiswas]

Actually the whites outnumber the blacks, and as for all this racist stuff coming from december I just laugh. He won't have the guts to say all this crap to Mike Tyson.

[peachped]

Actually the whites outnumber the blacks, and as for all this racist stuff coming from december I just laugh. He won't have the guts to say all this crap to Mike Tyson.

Is Mike Tyson someone you admire then tiswas?:rolleyes:

http://kjkolb.tripod.com/homepage/miketysonquotes.html

[synergy777]

actually whites are the global minority. heck china and india have over 2 billion, then add in afrcia, south/central america. then us bloody foreigners overthere, its quite a number.

its due to media coverage, the ascendacy of western consumer/media culture/education you get a warped view. simply look at the populations/census of countries, add them and well, they are bloody everywhere, and breeding like rabbits, lol.

[synergy777]

also russian are not anglos, anglos is from anglo saxons, saxony, the german tribe that invaded albion and later changed its name to land of anglos, angles, england.

anyone remember history, angles/anglos, danes, britons, saxons, jutes, frisians, celts, normans, vikings.

[baron von lotsov]

also russian are not anglos, anglos is from anglo saxons, saxony, the german tribe that invaded albion and later changed its name to land of anglos, angles, england.

anyone remember history, angles/anglos, danes, britons, saxons, jutes, frisians, celts, normans, vikings.


So why don't they just stay in their own country? There is a lot of friction in England at the moment about immigration, and quite rightly so. It's nothing to do with the colour of the skin, it has everything to do with it not being their country and the taking of our resources. Our government promotes it because it wins them votes, I mean votes from foreigners. Of course they will vote for Labour when Labour have given them a job that would have been done by and Englishman. This shit is no good for anyone, whether they are English or not.

[foreverspirit]

Of course they will vote for Labour when Labour have given them a job that would have been done by and Englishman. This shit is no good for anyone, whether they are English or not.



Oh my gosh. You mean they actually took that mop away from the englishman and gave it to the foreigner. Oh Oh how dar thy? Baaaaawaaaaaahaaaaaaa! LOL!! Oh Oh Oh. Keep em coming!!:cool:

[synergy777]

what about the asian contribution to the economy, the brown pound. even prince charles, praised us.

[foreverspirit]

what about the asian contribution to the economy, the brown pound. even prince charles, praised us.



No doubt about it. Amazing contributions. But to whose economy? Can you imagine if they contributed that hard, loyally towards their own?! Well, I geuss, it would be like centuries ago.

Thats not what I was alluding too. It was the whining about foreigners taking away jobs. Get it. Foreigners are only doing jobs that no one else was doing or COULD do. These jobs were even created specifically to appeal to and lure foreigners under lies about being a nice place to live marketing.

Prince charles, whos he? What does it matter? When his country thrives, due to the companies which he benefits from which are raping and pillaging, pollute dams, take away farms, infringe on seed rights, etc., manipulate everything., right now in 2007?

To focus on the foreigners and not the main source, on this kind of website, is strange for an aware individual to do. Strange individuals need the brutal, purifying truth. Or maybe this is just playing into the hand of the - what do they call it? Shill?


PS: Funny how we can always get a 2 billion or more quote from every corner, but no one can come up with a figure like that for the whites. If anyone has that figure, please feel free to share!:cool:

[mynameis]

Yes and Aryans are from Asia.

[synergy777]

after jews, asians are the most successful minority. an we all know where jews are from, lol add in arabs, and orientals, we asians don't too bad do we.

[foreverspirit]

No doubt about it. Amazing contributions. But to whose economy? Can you imagine if they contributed that hard, loyally towards their own?! Well, I geuss, it would be like centuries ago.

Thats not what I was alluding too. It was the whining about foreigners taking away jobs. Get it. Foreigners are only doing jobs that no one else was doing or COULD do. These jobs were even created specifically to appeal to and lure foreigners under lies about being a nice place to live marketing.

Prince charles, whos he? What does it matter? When his country thrives, due to the companies which he benefits from which are raping and pillaging, pollute dams, take away farms, infringe on seed rights, etc., manipulate everything., right now in 2007?

To focus on the foreigners and not the main source, on this kind of website, is strange for an aware individual to do. Strange individuals need the brutal, purifying truth. Or maybe this is just playing into the hand of the - what do they call it? Shill?


PS: Funny how we can always get a 2 billion or more quote from every corner, but no one can come up with a figure like that for the whites. If anyone has that figure, please feel free to share!:cool:



I forgot. Oh prince charles, oh my, yippiee ki yay mickey fickey. He praised me. Weeeeee arent I somebody now!!!:cool:

[mr jones]

indeed declining birth rates is no laughing matter. nor is pointing out that fact in anyway 'supremacy' of any kind.

especially when you've got things like this happening at the same time

http://www.davidduke.com//images/eva-herman-geman-family.jpg

German TV Host and Author Eva Herman Fired for Promoting Motherhood in Germany

Below are some excerpts taken from Der Spiegel magazine in Germany. It discusses the firing of a popular talkshow host, Mrs. Eva Herman, who simply mentioned in a recent book the historical fact that Hitler intensely promoted motherhood and the family in National Socialist Germany. When she recounted this fact she criticized the National Socialist regime, but no matter. Germany and the whole European world is now under such thought control and lack of intellectual freedom that not a single line is allowed to be written in a positive sense about Adolf Hitler or the Third Reich without destruction of the truth teller’s career, and sometimes even incarceration. Invariably, anyone who dares to say even the slightest positive comments about any policies of the Third Reich, even if they forcefully criticize other aspects, he earns the title of “Nazi.” It is akin to the label of witch or heretic for the freethinkers of the middle ages.

The primary reason Eva Herman was attacked and fired was because of her message of life and family for the German and the European people. The terrible fact is that the European people are being genocided by the destruction of the family and suicidally low birthrates. Combined with massive immigration and intermarriage, these policies are destroying the character of the European people and civilization. Of course, what Eva Herman says is true. Unless German women concentrate more on children and family rather than career, the German people will die out.

[mountain]

What does it matter??? If whites die out, big deal!!! You can just come back in a different skin!! LOL

[mr jones]

let all the other races die first then. why should it be OK for any race to die out?

[kblood]

We white people have weak genes, get over it. December you really have a onetracked mind. How about posting about something else than racism, fear about the white race being on a decline and racism against whites?

Most your posts seem to be about how we white people are in so much danger of extinction? What the f...? Most white people live in countries where the economy is good (except Russia I guess, they had a way of sacrificing their own land in at least two wars to win them). The traits of light skin, blonde hair and blue eyes is in gact genetically weak. If get kids with an african negro, the dark colors are most likely to dominate.

Why is it this has to be such bad news? I do not believe any of our human "races" will simply die out, and if any do, then why even care? We are all human anyway.

As Icke says himself, if we are going to change this world for the better, we should stop focussing on races, countries, nations or continents. We should focus on making the world a better place for everyone.

[december]

All the hate posts and messages towards the white people in this and other threads which were expressed in this OFFICIAL David Icke forum are copied.

Keep it up, guys...

[spacegurl]

No one should die out.

[kblood]

All the hate posts and messages towards the white people in this and other threads which were expressed in this OFFICIAL David Icke forum are copied.

Keep it up, guys...

You are asking for it. By making threads like this one, you are in fact supporting racism. Either against or for white people. Wether you copied the things in the post or not.

[december]

You are asking for it. By making threads like this one, you are in fact supporting racism. Either against or for white people. Wether you copied the things in the post or not.

I think you need to read the article and stop making things up.
OK?...

But anyway... you just continue to post what you will, and we will copy it.

:)

We white people have weak genes, get over it

Translation - white people are inferior.

[kblood]

I think you need to read the article and stop making things up.
OK?...

But anyway... you just continue to post what you will, and we will copy it.

:)



Translation - white people are inferior.

Your translate it how you want to see it. You are looking for racism. It is simple fact that, and you would have learned about it in school if you had learned about genetics and how they are passed on. Brown or dark hair is more likely to get passed on than blond or red hair. Therefore the dark hair gene is stronger than the red or blond hair gene.

The fact that you view what I wrote as racisms just shows that you are a racist yourself. Someone who does not care about race would not even have seen it in that way. I reread the article, and yes, it is sad that anglo races are declining, but dying out? The west is going towards its end?

Whoever wrote this article is someone I respect as little as Jehovas Witnessess that goes around telling everyone the world is ending every 2 years.

I was not writing about "white people being weak" as you read it. You fear that so much that you even seek out information to manifest your fears about us whites being a dying race. What I wrote was about the scientific fact that our genes doesnt get passed on as well as dark hair, brown eyes, and dark skin genes does.

Copy what you will... is that something that is supposed to make me think more about what I write? Where do you copy this stuff to? Are you making a huge database over "people who are against whites"? I am a white person myself... get a grib December.

[kblood]

[b]I think you need to read the article and stop making things up.


As for this just to get back to it... have you read it yourself? I reread it to be sure, and yet it is about russian people arent as many as they used to, and the same goes for white Americans apparantly. Doesnt change the fact that the whole article is biased. Check this out:

"American children born today may have Chinese for neighbors across the Bering Strait from Alaska.

Nor is it only the Slavic peoples who are expiring. So, too, are the native-born populations of Western and Southern Europe, as the empty nurseries of Europa fill with bawling Muslim babies."

Muslim babies? Chinese neighbors? Oh my god?!? Is this really something that is sad for us?

I find it amazing that you yourself cannot see how biased and racial the whole article really is. It is also some of the worst journalism I have seen, and I have seen some very bad journalism in my lifetime.

[december]

I will inform the author Mr. Patrick J. Buchanan of HOW his article was discussed on David Icke forum...


http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images/BUCHANAN(COLOR)2.jpg

In Russia's Ulanovsk region, Sept. 12 is Conception Day.

Workers are given the day off and encouraged to go home and do their best to conceive a new Russian. The hope is to have a bumper crop of babies on Russia's national holiday, nine months off.

Conception Day has occasioned much mirth and ribald humor. But for Mother Russia, the issue of her children is no laughing matter.

Two decades ago, the Soviet Union was three times the size of any of the other giant nation – the United States, Canada, China, Brazil – and the third most populous, with nearly 300 million people. Came then the great crack-up of 1990-91.

The Baltic republics – Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia – broke free first. Next were Belarus, Ukraine and Moldova in the west; Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan in the Caucasus; and Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan in Central Asia.

These amputations removed a third of the territory and half the population of the Soviet Union. Yet the remnant, Russia, remained twice as large as any other nation and still boasted a population of 150 million.

Since the 1990s, however, Russia has been losing population at a rate of 750,000 a year – not to emigration, but to death. By one count, the Russian population is down to 143 million. President Putin has predicted that only 124 million Russians will be alive in 2015. In 2000, the United Nations projected that, at its present birth rate, by 2050 Russia's population would fall to 114 million.

In a 2005 study, the United Nations estimated that, together, Ukraine and Russia will lose 50 million people – 25 percent of their combined populations – by mid-century. The Slavs are dying out, and the geostrategic implications are enormous.

In a few decades, Turkey, which seeks entry into the European Union, will become Europe's most populous nation. Like Xerxes' bridge of boats across the Hellespont, Turkey will be the Asian land bridge into Europe, the Bridge of The Prophet into the homeland of the Christians.

As critical, the vast majority of Russians live west of the Urals, while east of Novosibirsk (New Siberia City), all the way to Kamchatka, the tiny Russian population is departing or dying out. Yet, in timber, oil and minerals, this is the most resource-rich region on earth. And south of Siberia lies the most populous and resource-hungry nation on earth.

American children born today may have Chinese for neighbors across the Bering Strait from Alaska.

Nor is it only the Slavic peoples who are expiring. So, too, are the native-born populations of Western and Southern Europe, as the empty nurseries of Europa fill with bawling Muslim babies.

Americans of European ancestry are also declining as a share of the U.S. population, down from near 90 percent into 1960 to 66 percent today. Anglos, as they are called now, are now minorities in our two largest states, Texas and California, and, by 2040, will be a minority in the nation that people of British and European stock built.

Last month, the Census Bureau projected the U.S. population would grow by 167 million by 2060, to 468 million.

And immigrants and their children will constitute 105 million of that 167 million. That would be triple the 37.5 million legal and illegal immigrants here today, which is itself the largest cohort of foreigners any nation has ever taken in.

With the 45 million Hispanics here to rise to 102 million by 2050, the Southwest is likely to look and sound more like Mexico than America. Indeed, culturally, linguistically and ethnically, it will be a part of Mexico.

Like Russians, Americans of European ancestry are failing to reproduce. Yet, a closer look reveals that population growth remains healthy among the religiously devout – evangelical Christians, Catholic traditionalists, Muslims and Mormons. Among the secularists, however, birth rates are far below Zero Population Growth – and the possibility of extinction looms.

One recent study found that the Jewish population in the United States fell by 6 percent in the 1990s, from 5.5 million to 5.2 million. Orthodox Jews, however, are known for families of five, eight or 10 children.

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and have dominion ... over every living creature." So reads Genesis. And so European Man once preached and practiced. But having lost his empires along with his faith, European Man no longer sees himself as commissioned by God.

Indeed, he no longer believes in God. Among our best and brightest are many whose purpose is to enjoy life to the fullest and to end it, when the time comes, as painlessly as possible.

Which seems to suit the rest of the world – China, India, Islam, Africa, Latin America – fine, as all look forward to a magnificent inheritance.

If demography is destiny, the West is finished. And, if so, does it really matter all that much who rules in Baghdad?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57687

[kblood]

I will inform the author Mr. Patrick J. Buchanan of HOW his article was discussed on David Icke forum...


It has nothing to do with the "David Icke forum". It is me who thinks he is a bad journalists and way too biased for serious jounalism.

So if you really do intend to tell him, then give him my e-mail as well, so I might have a chance of hearing an excuse for being such a poor journalist.
My email is: kblood@sol.dk

Thanks :)

[kblood]

And by the way... to support the whites, I guess I will try to make alot of white ladies pregnant when I get the chance :) My current girlfriend is turkish though, so I might have to postpone saving the white race a month or two :rolleyes:

[archangel]

What does it matter??? If whites die out, big deal!!! You can just come back in a different skin!! LOL

well isn't that the same reason so many people supposedly hate hitler because they think he supposedly wanted to genocide jews, blacks. etc? woudln't they come back to earth too? just in different skin?

isn't it kind of hypocritical to say its ok for whites to be genocided but not blacks?

I mean its the same thing that people think hiter was trying to do except now a days the tables are turns are they are just doing it through different means instead of blunt force.

[john white]

I mean its the same thing that people think hiter was trying to do except now a days the tables are turns are they are just doing it through different means instead of blunt force.

Global conception rates are just a flat fact: how do "they" control who does the most shagging? A lot of this percieved imbalance in "race" (Illusion!) population numbers is to do with social conditions: the high cost of living and high life expectency means that the "first world" simply isnt as motivated to have kids: and lower fertility rates are most likely linked to chemicalised food

But having a problem about it is entirely motivated by FEAR

People are people are people:

Humans are humans are humans

Face it and deal with it

[adimon]

well isn't that the same reason so many people supposedly hate hitler because they think he supposedly wanted to genocide jews, blacks. etc? woudln't they come back to earth too? just in different skin?

isn't it kind of hypocritical to say its ok for whites to be genocided but not blacks?

I mean its the same thing that people think hiter was trying to do except now a days the tables are turns are they are just doing it through different means instead of blunt force.

There is no supposition when it comes to the Final Solution. It happened. The Nuremberg rallies, the idea of the Master Race, twisting of Nietzsche and Jung. It's real.

I really am sick of how many threads now are full of people saying Hitler was misunderstood. Whether he was Illuminati or not, many family members of the people of this forum died fighting what he stood for.

[eternal_spirit]

Actually the whites outnumber the blacks, and as for all this racist stuff coming from december I just laugh. He won't have the guts to say all this crap to Mike Tyson.
..........

How is he racist explain??

[eternal_spirit]

Can not the moderators create a December thread where all
this White supermacy stuff can be posted without inflicting
it upon everybody.

Maybe a new section called; Crazy stuff
.............

What white supremacy stuff? why read it and why post in this thread, If you feel inflicted upon.
You're posts are nothing but spam.

[peachped]

"Global conception rates are just a flat fact: how do "they" control who does the most shagging?"

John I think they manipulate minds with adverts like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnNABfOtkA

[december]

There is no supposition when it comes to the Final Solution. It happened. The Nuremberg rallies, the idea of the Master Race, twisting of Nietzsche and Jung. It's real.

All you do is post the buzz-words which have NOTHING TO DO with the article.
The population of white people is declining in all countries and you are talking about... Nuremberg rallies which took place 60 years ago in Germany... :D

I mean... are you OK?

also, I don't understand why was this message ignored by the mods -


Guess what..

Whites are just going to be bred out. Deal with it.

[december]

.............

What white supremacy stuff? why read it and why post in this thread, If you feel inflicted upon.
You're posts are nothing but spam.

I find it strange that some people did NOT even read the article but keep on posting silly messages which are directed against another person. In this case it is against me.
So why the mods don't stop them?

[john white]

"Global conception rates are just a flat fact: how do "they" control who does the most shagging?"

John I think they manipulate minds with adverts like this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cnNABfOtkA

The messages of advertising are so complex and repleat you could read anything into them: the only consistency is shifting products, and the same firm (or umberlla of firms) will try it every which way to achieve that aim. Theres countless ads where its a "hunky" white guy. And what's wrong with "interracial" relationships?

Nothing, that's what, unless we have bought into system indoctrination

[adimon]

I find it strange that some people did NOT even read the article but keep on posting silly messages which are directed against another person. In this case it is against me.
So why the mods don't stop them?

I think maybe because it's an issue people don't want to discuss, and right now is too heated.

It's not just your inclusion of the article though is it, it's what you write in your posts.

But at least we can agree on one thing - the moderators don't seem too interested in preventing racist comments.

[eternal_spirit]

There is no supposition when it comes to the Final Solution. It happened. The Nuremberg rallies, the idea of the Master Race, twisting of Nietzsche and Jung. It's real.

I really am sick of how many threads now are full of people saying Hitler was misunderstood. Whether he was Illuminati or not, many family members of the people of this forum died fighting what he stood for.
..........

You wan't to call me a nazi racist again? Both my grand fathers fought in the war against Germany. My Dad was in Berlin ( English peace corps) 1960. My great grandfather was German.

[eternal_spirit]

I'm beginning to wonder how many none whites are on here posting racist comments about white people. Who knows what's on the other side of a computer monitor.

[eternal_spirit]

But at least we can agree on one thing - the moderators don't seem too interested in preventing racist comments.

....................

Racist comments against whites you mean? Or pure lies accusing whites of being nazi racists? What colour are you?

[john white]

I'm beginning to wonder how many none whites are on here posting racist comments about white people. Who knows what's on the other side of a computer monitor.

Paranoia?

[eternal_spirit]

Paranoia?
.......

John I've lost count of how many times I've been called a racist on here this week.

[john white]

.......

John I've lost count of how many times I've been called a racist on here this week.

I know you don't think you are... and I don't think your a bigot. But it might be worth asking yourself why your coming across that way to others, and the answer might have something to do with having a limited paradigm regarding "Jews" (yes I have read that rant room thread)

But i'd say that venturing a horde of "non white" people deliberately posting against "whites" is rather unlikley

[december]

I think maybe because it's an issue people don't want to discuss, and right now is too heated.

So don't discuss it. :)

If YOU don't want to discuss it than why do you spam this thread with silly buzz-words about Nazis? Why are you allowed to hijack this thread? Why not a single moderator asked you to stop?

Do you have ANY manners, adimon?

See, thank to people like you we are not discussing the article but you. :D And I think if you continue to trash this thread, it will be moved to Rant Room BECAUSE OF YOU.

[peachped]

"The messages of advertising are so complex and repleat you could read anything into them: the only consistency is shifting products, and the same firm (or umberlla of firms) will try it every which way to achieve that aim."

Yes and the aim of this advert is to manipulate women into interracial relationships by obvious racist anti white propaganda. The aim being to engineer a globally mixed race society. This is an NWO agenda to put an end to nations and different races so they can take over the world and rule easily over a rootless community of microchipped consumers/slave workers. I don't think there is anything wrong with interracial relationships btw, but I would hate to think of the end of all races/nations, the international footy would go to fook for a start.
What if all birds were the same, all trees, all fruit?

Vive la differance!

[mountain]

.......

John I've lost count of how many times I've been called a racist on here this week.

YES!! And I am one of the ones who called you a rascist! You wonder why! Its because of "whites" like you that think sites this are exclusive for whites, or at least that is the hype among your many posts! Tell me, is it such a problem that EVERYONE visits this site and post thier views here! You get SO uneasy and uncomfortable, when you see that EVERYONE is waking up!! I would think you would feel grateful, not intimidated! Alot of you have been posting stereotypical comments about blacks and other non-whites for years!!! How do I know? Because I have been visiting this site for at least five years now...and I will continue to visit. Much LOVE & PEACE!:):):):)

[john white]

"The messages of advertising are so complex and repleat you could read anything into them: the only consistency is shifting products, and the same firm (or umberlla of firms) will try it every which way to achieve that aim."
Yes and the aim of this advert is to manipulate women into interracial relationships by obvious racist anti white propaganda. The aim being to engineer a globally mixed race society. This is an NWO agenda to put an end to nations and different races so they can take over the world and rule easily over a rootless community of microchipped consumers/slave workers. I don't think there is anything wrong with interracial relationships btw, but I would hate to think of the end of all races/nations, the international footy would go to fook for a start.
What if all birds were the same, all trees, all fruit?

Vive la differance!

Its not difference your aguing for, but conformity. Nations and Race are Notions: they have no objective reality, they exist only inside peoples heads

What I do find interesting in your post is the hysteria over race oppo-saming the most imbalanced "ethnic rights" activist:

obvious racist anti white propaganda

Who no doubt would find that advert racist for sterotyping black people!

[eternal_spirit]

YES!! And I am one of the ones who called you a rascist! You wonder why! Its because of "whites" like you that think sites this are exclusive for whites, or at least that is the hype among your many posts! Tell me, is it such a problem that EVERYONE visits this site and post thier views here! You get SO uneasy and uncomfortable, when you see that EVERYONE is waking up!! I would think you would feel grateful, not intimidated! Alot of you have been posting stereotypical comments about blacks and other non-whites for years!!! How do I know? Because I have been visiting this site for at least five years now...and I will continue to visit. Much LOVE & PEACE!:):):):)
.........
Back to post lies again lol. And to call me a racist again too funny. Such a hypocrite aren't you with you're love and peace and smileys.

[december]

.......

John I've lost count of how many times I've been called a racist on here this week.

This is what the Illuminati agents do to shut white people up.

Just take a look what adimon is saying. This thread is about demographic crisis of the white people but he is posting something about Nuremberg rallies and the idea of the Master Race...

What's wrong with this guy? :confused:

The article tells us about the catastrophic situation in Russia where after the collapse of the Soviet Union the population in some cities begin to decline rapidly... And that was a part of the Illuminati (Western) plan...
But adimon keeps pushing his anti-white agenda with posts about... Nuremberg rallies!

This is just nuts!


Since the 1990s, however, Russia has been losing population at a rate of 750,000 a year – not to emigration, but to death. By one count, the Russian population is down to 143 million. President Putin has predicted that only 124 million Russians will be alive in 2015. In 2000, the United Nations projected that, at its present birth rate, by 2050 Russia's population would fall to 114 million.

In a 2005 study, the United Nations estimated that, together, Ukraine and Russia will lose 50 million people – 25 percent of their combined populations – by mid-century. The Slavs are dying out, and the geostrategic implications are enormous.

In a few decades, Turkey, which seeks entry into the European Union, will become Europe's most populous nation. Like Xerxes' bridge of boats across the Hellespont, Turkey will be the Asian land bridge into Europe, the Bridge of The Prophet into the homeland of the Christians.

As critical, the vast majority of Russians live west of the Urals, while east of Novosibirsk (New Siberia City), all the way to Kamchatka, the tiny Russian population is departing or dying out. Yet, in timber, oil and minerals, this is the most resource-rich region on earth. And south of Siberia lies the most populous and resource-hungry nation on earth.

American children born today may have Chinese for neighbors across the Bering Strait from Alaska.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57687


There is no supposition when it comes to the Final Solution. It happened. The Nuremberg rallies, the idea of the Master Race, twisting of Nietzsche and Jung. It's real.

Give us more buzz-words...

[eternal_spirit]

[quote=john white;131902

But i'd say that venturing a horde of "non white" people deliberately posting against "whites" is rather unlikley[/quote]
........
But more than possible.

[peachped]

"Its not difference your aguing for, but conformity. Nations and Race are Notions: they have no objective reality, they exist only inside peoples heads"

Well - "Have fun in your Spacesuit!" :)

"What I do find interesting in your post is the hysteria over race oppo-saming the most imbalanced "ethnic rights" activist:

Quote:
obvious racist anti white propaganda
Who no doubt would find that advert racist for sterotyping black people!"

John there is no hysteria. The advert clearly denigrates white people.

[adimon]

Paranoia?

Message for eternalspirit> I posted my picture in the forum photo thread. I'm not black. But if I was, I'm still entitled to call a racist a racist. I hope all these pointless racist threads get banned, let alone end up in the rant room. I'd rather see myself banned than allow this supremacist revisionism flourish in this forum. I don't think the moderators will, though, lest they see your kind prevail.

Apologies John White for using your thread to respond, but I can't see the others anymore.

Im outta here for good.

[eternal_spirit]

Message for eternalspirit> I posted my picture in the forum photo thread. I'm not black. But if I was, I'm still entitled to call a racist a racist. I hope all these pointless racist threads get banned, let alone end up in the rant room. I'd rather see myself banned than allow this supremacist revisionism flourish in this forum. I don't think the moderators will, though, lest they see your kind prevail.

Apologies John White for using your thread to respond, but I can't see the others anymore.

Im outta here for good.
............

More lies and delusional accusations.
I've been the victim of black racists ( violently attacked )
Did I go and seek revenge. No . Do I hate blacks No. Does this mean I'm racist NO.

Good riddence delsuional one.

[adimon]

This is what the Illuminati agents do to shut white people up.

Just take a look what adimon is saying. This thread is about demographic crisis of the white people but he is posting something about Nuremberg rallies and the idea of the Master Race...

What's wrong with this guy? :confused:

Give us more buzz-words...

Actually, I was responding to a post by Archangel (shown below)

well isn't that the same reason so many people supposedly hate hitler because they think [B]he s supposedly wanted to genocide jews, blacks. etc? woudln't they come back to earth too? just in different skin?

isn't it kind of hypocritical to say its ok for whites to be genocided but not blacks?

I mean its the same thing that people think hiter was trying to do except now a days the tables are turns are they are just doing it through different means instead of blunt force.

So my post was in response to that. Thanks.

I'm not trying to hijack your topic, but it seems to me that you're fighting a losing battle. There is no crisis. There will always be white people. Purity of blood is not an issue given all the others in the world.

Anyway, I've said my bit. I was wrong about you, december.

See ya around.

[foreverspirit]

Since the 1990s, however, Russia has been losing population at a rate of 750,000 a year – not to emigration, but to death. By one count, the Russian population is down to 143 million. President Putin has predicted that only 124 million Russians will be alive in 2015.[B] In 2000, the United Nations projected that, at its present birth rate, by 2050 Russia's population would fall to 114 million.


In a 2005 study, the United Nations estimated that,



Would you seriously believe anything these guys say? Dont you realize that they are who the so called, are?:cool:

[anoninnyc]

I will inform the author Mr. Patrick J. Buchanan of HOW his article was discussed on David Icke forum...




yes december, i am sure he is anxiously awaiting your correspondence.

[mountain]

........
But more than possible.

SO?

[eternal_spirit]

SO?

...........

So you accuse me of being racist an unfounded accusation.
How about I make some unfounded accusations against you.
Are you a black racist?

[eternal_spirit]

SO?

.............

What was it I posted to make you believe that I'm racist?

[john white]

Message for eternalspirit> I posted my picture in the forum photo thread. I'm not black. But if I was, I'm still entitled to call a racist a racist. I hope all these pointless racist threads get banned, let alone end up in the rant room. I'd rather see myself banned than allow this supremacist revisionism flourish in this forum. I don't think the moderators will, though, lest they see your kind prevail.

Apologies John White for using your thread to respond, but I can't see the others anymore.

Im outta here for good.

It's certainly not my thread

And don't mistake tolerance for endorsement

[armoured saint]

Stop giving December a hard time guys. He's in martyrdom mode at the moment, so it wont do any good to keep 'persecuting' him.

Just face the facts. December happens to belong to the last pocket of humanity in the north that had their brains begin to thaw out. Help him. Love him. Nurture him on his way to evolution. He needs to catch up.;)

[kblood]

Stop giving December a hard time guys. He's in martyrdom mode at the moment, so it wont do any good to keep 'persecuting' him.

Just face the facts. December happens to belong to the last pocket of humanity in the north that had their brains begin to thaw out. Help him. Love him. Nurture him on his way to evolution. He needs to catch up.;)

So true... I have been trying to feel compasionate about December. He is just so good at making everything about racism. Sad that he cannot even see that the whole article is so very racism themed.

The thing to ask is, "Why are the russians dying like lemmings apparantly?". This journalist has made a whole article that is not discussable. It gives no sources to its information, and makes claims about only "muslim" babies being born or white people who are going to have "chinese neighbors"... Oh what will we do?

The journalist probably know these things about his article if he isnt just some sad mindcontrolled fearfull guy who did what his fear has had him do. If this thread is to take any usefull turn about this matter, then someone needs to clarify WHY thousands of russians are dying each year?

Anyone who can even link to places that can verify the information given so unproffesionally in this article?

As others have probably noticed, and seen from Decembers answers in this thread, it is about having us call each other racists. It is to spark up the racial discussions here. What does the decline in the russian population even have to do with the Icke forum? Is it due to contamination of the tap water? Is it because of food poisoning on a grand scale?

I for one do not really see what there is to discuss in this article. It states some facts I would like to see verifyed before commenting any more on it. I think the article is mind control and propeganda to make us fear.

Before I even made 4 posts in this thread I was called a racist, and I called December a racists before that, because he always finds articles like this to begin racial discussions. Maybe it is not Decembers intention to make this a racial discussion, but it really shows that what goes on in Decembers head must be somewhat like the things in that article since he posts it here. It is about races, and their differences and how russians have to fear and other white people as well.

Bad journalism, but good NWO journalism. Just look at the amound of discord it has made in this thread alone? If December contacts this journalist and tells how it is being discussed here, I have a feeling he would be pleased. Either that or he is quite ignorant on what he is doing.

[mr jones]

its only racist when white people do it

[december]

its only racist when white people do it

Now you can see what the immigrants in your beautiful Britain are going to do in the future....
They simply won't allow you to discuss your own issues.

Why are they pushing their agenda and attacking you? It is because they hate white Britons and they want your land and your houses.

Good luck to you, dear Brits.
But in Russia we will not allow this kind of accupation....

They will SPIT IN YOUR FACE and you will do nothing about it.
As you can see they are not even afraid to say what they think right here in OFFICIAL David Icke forum (on the first page of this thread):

Guess what..

Whites are just going to be bred out. Deal with it.


As I said already the article tells us about the catastrophic situation in UK and Russia where after the collapse of the Soviet Union the population in some cities begin to decline rapidly... And that was a part of the Illuminati (Western) plan...
But adimon keeps pushing his anti-white agenda with posts about... Nuremberg rallies!


Since the 1990s, however, Russia has been losing population at a rate of 750,000 a year – not to emigration, but to death. By one count, the Russian population is down to 143 million. President Putin has predicted that only 124 million Russians will be alive in 2015. In 2000, the United Nations projected that, at its present birth rate, by 2050 Russia's population would fall to 114 million.

In a 2005 study, the United Nations estimated that, together, Ukraine and Russia will lose 50 million people – 25 percent of their combined populations – by mid-century. The Slavs are dying out, and the geostrategic implications are enormous.

In a few decades, Turkey, which seeks entry into the European Union, will become Europe's most populous nation. Like Xerxes' bridge of boats across the Hellespont, Turkey will be the Asian land bridge into Europe, the Bridge of The Prophet into the homeland of the Christians.

As critical, the vast majority of Russians live west of the Urals, while east of Novosibirsk (New Siberia City), all the way to Kamchatka, the tiny Russian population is departing or dying out. Yet, in timber, oil and minerals, this is the most resource-rich region on earth. And south of Siberia lies the most populous and resource-hungry nation on earth.

American children born today may have Chinese for neighbors across the Bering Strait from Alaska.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57687

[mr jones]

race is an illusion. lol.
so then racism doesnt exist ...unless a white man says it

[mountain]

December, do you travel at all? Does it really bother you that this isn't a white man's world, after all???? I sincerely feel for you. You seem to be a bit paranoid and several years ago, I could relate to your emotions.

My suggestion would be to make friendships with everyone, including yourself. You will see that there is nothing to fear in these coming times. this is what is supposed to happen, the intergration of people and for them to love and communicate with one another. The internet is a great example of this! Honestly, what would our chances be of you and I typing messages to each other without it?? It is amazing to me that people see this segregation reality ideal! It has caused so much tension and rascism a a result.
Fortunately for me, I have many friendships and acqaiintances in many cultures, and I have realized that neither of us are superior to the other. We have learned valuable lessons being friends and shared wisdom and truth. We still do. This has been wonderful to us, because we have become truly spiritual.

I sympathize with you immensely and I wonder if you have taken the liberty to
read memoirs of the people who have been oppressed throughout the world.
Have you read Infinite Love Is the Only Truth and Evrything else is Illusion...? I can assure you that the white race will continue to thrive in this world. I wonder, do you feel the same way about the millions around the world being slaughtered in Iraq and the millions who are victims of genocides in Africa, or the millions of Natives who have perished in the Americas for their soil?

Take time to consider what I have said, and do yourself a favor, do not become like those who tcontrol the Earth! Consider how easy it is to become their pawn in this game.

PEACE & LOVE

[foreverspirit]

Now you can see what the immigrants in your beautiful Britain are going to do in the future....
They simply won't allow you to discuss your own issues.

Why are they pushing their agenda and attacking you? It is because they hate white Britons and they want your land and your houses.

Good luck to you, dear Brits.
But in Russia we will not allow this kind of accupation....

They will SPIT IN YOUR FACE and you will do nothing about it.
As you can see they are not even afraid to say what they think right here in OFFICIAL David Icke forum (on the first page of this thread):[/url]



Relax december. You know the hidden hand is white. What are you worried about by beliving their hype. You know they will never never allow control to the foreigners. Take it easy. They got your back!!:cool:

[supertzar]

So get fuckin'! Make lots of little white babies. If you can't afford to, that should give you a clue about what the real problem is.

[mr jones]

the ptb are well out of the way. its the average working classes who suffer because of their warped policies.
governments are promoting aimlessness. we dont even have a clear idea of who our true enemy is.
all we see is multiculturism not working the way its supposed to.

[edelweiss pirate]

Since the 1990s, however, Russia has been losing population at a rate of 750,000 a year – not to emigration, but to death. By one count, the Russian population is down to 143 million. President Putin has predicted that only 124 million Russians will be alive in 2015. In 2000, the United Nations projected that, at its present birth rate, by 2050 Russia's population would fall to 114 million.

That's great news... More people are realising their divine consciousness and reintergrating with 'the one' rather than return to Earth to live a painful and uncertain incarnation in material 3d reality. Fewer souls trapped on the merry-go-round...maybe those Russians worked it all out and refuse to come back....

[mr jones]

That's great news... More people are realising their divine consciousness and reintergrating with 'the one' rather than return to Earth to live a painful and uncertain incarnation in material 3d reality. Fewer souls trapped on the merry-go-round...maybe those Russians worked it all out and refuse to come back....

I wouldnt say that was Great News. what happens when the shtf will you roll over belly up and say 'intergrate me with the one' or defend yourself ??

[edelweiss pirate]

I see life on this planet as unhealthy. Everything is corrupt. This is hardly a planet fit to bring up children in. Just watch their innocence and light fade as they become more and more ingrained to the material and cut off from the spiritual.

I think enough's enough. What's so great about the soul trap in which we find ourselves?

[mr jones]

that sounds very defeatist.

[gold]

the ptb are well out of the way. its the average working classes who suffer because of their warped policies.
governments are promoting aimlessness. we dont even have a clear idea of who our true enemy is.
all we see is multiculturism not working the way its supposed to.

This is exactly the way they want you! confused and defenceless, what better way to take control of your mind body and soul? Know your enemy! and know whats coming!

[metis]

what about the asian contribution to the economy, the brown pound. even prince charles, praised us.

Wow! If Prince Charles praised the Asians! Him being a descendant of the supposed prophet and child molester Mahomet, they must be good.
What about the money that leaves the country and goes abroad to keep immigrants families?
Asians are more racist than whites.I have asian friends who come out with racist jokes and think English women are whores. They won't go back home because they are using our resourses.

[foreverspirit]

Wow! If Prince Charles praised the Asians! Him being a descendant of the supposed prophet and child molester Mahomet, they must be good.
What about the money that leaves the country and goes abroad to keep immigrants families?
Asians are more racist than whites.I have asian friends who come out with racist jokes and think English women are whores. They won't go back home because they are using our resourses.


Educate Yourself:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=40674#post40674


Quote:
Originally Posted by 2tuff
I do not like what has happened to my once great nation since immigration started I will say that.


Once great nation? BaaaWaaaaHaaaaaaa!!! Weren't you the "Original Barbarians", roaming and pillaging other nations? Isn't that what made you a so called great nation? Once great nation? When was that? After stealing from others, destroying all records and claiming brilliance as your own? Isn't that where your stolen wealth comes from?

Wasn't that your plan? Desecrate other lands and cutures in order to create slaves. The only reason you're feeling the pinch of immigration is because of your eternal wicked heart still wishing to suck the life out of people and give nothing in return. Hoarding wealth and thinking your silly slaves will not rebel. As a matter of fact they aren't even rebelling. This is just the natural result of YOUR wickedness. It's unfortunate though that the ones suffering, are them and not YOU the CREATOR of this DREAD.

Oh pooh pooh it no yionger a great nation. Awwww, boo hoo hoo. You can sit on your fat ass spewing your blame the victim crap all day long, while your worthless immigrants toil away for your so called "great nation"? Seems to be pretty great for you!!!

So much for the Law Of Attraction. But wait. The way the Illuminati, Jesuits, Huns, SMOM blah, blah, blah....YOU!!! are going, its coming full circle. Concerned about microchips etc., why, because it's not only for the SLAVE??

You pretend to be uncomfortable, desiring to find the real culprit? Search no more!!! Anyone can see plainly see its YOU!!! But then, I geuss you already knew that.

You should give thanks youve been exposed to good hearts, rich and diverse beauty and thinking. Imagine how great these people must be, to have been so abused for so long and still manage to constantly dig deep and strive to carry themselves with dignity, class and the divine within. You have a lot to learn from them. Wow, astouding to see how such stupidity can survive so long. Then again, evil is a force that has had its way for far too long.

If indeed you are troubled, you are now only feeling an iota of what your migration to other lands did to people living in 1000% more wealth, splendour, creativity and opulence than your so called great nation ever imagined or lived!!

Want it to return to your so called great nation? Return all the wealth you stole and continue to steal; and people I am sure would be more than overjoyed to leave your cold, dank, boring, loveless, frigid country to reutrn to warmth, freedom, wealth, joy, happiness, celebrartions and opulence.

Wakey wakey youre living in a day and age of information. A brilliant mind (Johnny Cochran) once said "Truth pressed down to the earth will always rise up"!! Cease with deluding yourself and trying to delude others!!

The entire world is now aware of your so called great nations' True History!!:eek::cool:

[foreverspirit]

Wow! If Prince Charles praised the Asians! Him being a descendant of the supposed prophet and child molester Mahomet, they must be good.
What about the money that leaves the country and goes abroad to keep immigrants families?
Asians are more racist than whites.I have asian friends who come out with racist jokes and think English women are whores. They won't go back home because they are using our resourses.



Educate Yourself:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=94442#post94442

DIAGNOSIS: PSYCHIC EPIDEMIC

All we have to do to see the madness of our species is to open our eyes and look at what we are doing to each other, to the environment which we depend on for our survival, and to ourselves. What more evidence of a collective psychosis do we possibly need?
by Paul Levy

To quote the great doctor of the soul C. G. Jung:
“Indeed, it is becoming ever more obvious that it is not famine, not earthquakes, not microbes, not cancer but man himself who is man’s greatest danger to man, for the simple reason that there is no adequate protection against psychic epidemics, which are infinitely more devastating than the worst of natural catastrophes. The supreme danger which threatens individuals as well as whole nations is a psychic danger. Reason has proved itself completely powerless, precisely because its arguments have an effect only on the conscious mind and not on the unconscious. The greatest danger of all comes from the masses, in whom the effects of the unconscious pile up cumulatively and the reasonableness of the conscious mind is stifled. Every mass organization is a latent danger just as much as a heap of dynamite is. It lets loose effects which no man wants and no man can stop. It is therefore in the highest degree desirable that a knowledge of psychology should spread so that men can understand the source of the supreme dangers that threaten them. Not by arming to the teeth, each for itself, can the nations defend themselves in the long run from the frightful catastrophes of modern war. The heaping up of arms is itself a call to war. Rather must they recognize those psychic conditions under which the unconscious [tsunami-like] bursts the dykes of consciousness and overwhelms it.”
The fundamental process underlying what is collectively playing out on the world stage is psychic in nature. What is getting acted out politically, socially and economically is a manifestation or expression of what is going on deep within the collective unconscious of humanity. It is because of this that Jung says, “We can no longer afford to underestimate the importance of the psychic factor in world affairs.” [Emphasis added]

It is very dangerous when millions of people fall into their unconscious together and act it out en masse. Mass psychology, which is a herd phenomenon based on fear, then becomes the order of the day. When speaking about Germany in the 1930’s, Jung sounded eerily prophetic when he said that it “...fell prey to mass psychology, though she is by no means the only nation threatened by this dangerous germ.”

"Reason has proved itself completely powerless, precisely because its arguments have an effect only on the conscious mind and not on the unconscious," wrote C. G. Jung.

Because of our inherent suggestibility, we can easily reinforce the unconscious parts of each other, as if we are mutually hypnotizing each other in a self-perpetuating feedback loop. For example, Bush and his supporters are co-dependently feeding into and supporting each other’s unconscious delusions. At a certain point we can’t separate the phenomenon of George W. Bush from his followers, as they are interconnected expressions of a deeper process. In their interplay, Bush, his followers and everyone who reacts against them are the manifestation of a deeper, unconscious field which is expressing and revealing itself as it incarnates through them.

By not seeing Bush’s madness and thereby falling under its spell, Bush supporters unwittingly become agents through which the collective psychosis non-locally propagates itself. Like a higher-dimensional virus that reproduces itself through our unconscious blind spots, a psychic epidemic is spreading itself through Bush, his supporters and everyone who reacts against them.

When we fall prey to conforming to mass psychology, our unconsciousness makes us prone to potentially ignore and deny our individual perceptions and give away our power to others, which is the ‘group-think’ characteristic of cults. We then become dis-associated from our ability to discern between our inner fantasy-image of what we believe to be true, and the reality of what is actually happening, which is a sign of madness.

When we collectively fall into fear, we become easily manipulated and controlled by leaders who themselves have fallen prey to the power-drive of the shadow, as we mutually feed into and off of each other’s unconsciousness. Once emotions such as fear reach a certain pitch, to quote Jung, “...the possibility of reason’s having any effect ceases and its place is taken by slogans and chimerical wish-fantasies. This is to say, a sort of collective possession results which rapidly develops into a psychic epidemic.” [Emphasis added]

A collective psychosis is a closed system, which is to say that it is insular and not open to feedback from the ‘real’ world. Reflection from others, instead of being looked at and integrated, is perversely mis-interpreted to support the agreed-upon delusion that binds the collective psychosis together. Anyone who challenges this shared reality is seen as a threat and demonized. An impenetrable field gets conjured up around the collective psychosis that literally resists consciousness. There is no point in talking rationally with a Bush supporter, for example, as their ability to reason has been dis-armed.

Because of our inherent suggestibility, we can easily reinforce the unconscious parts of each other, as if we are mutually hypnotizing each other in a self-perpetuating feedback loop.

To be of genuine benefit, we need to understand the dynamics that are at the root of this psychic epidemic. If we don’t understand the psychic roots of our current world situation, we are doomed to unconsciously repeat it and endlessly re-create destruction. Recognizing the psychic origin of what is playing out on the world stage is, in-and-of-itself, the very realization that the deeper, underlying psychic process is revealing to us.

THE UNCONSCIOUS IS COMING!
To quote Jung, “The great problem of our time is that we don’t understand what is happening to the world. We are confronted with the darkness of our soul, the unconscious.” [Emphasis added] It is as if our shadow, both personal and archetypal, has gripped us and is revealing itself to us as it plays itself out through our unconscious. This is particularly dangerous because this process is happening unconsciously. When we act out and give shape and form to our unconscious without being consciously aware of what we are doing, it is always destructive.
Jung goes on to say, “This is an exceedingly dangerous time and we are confronted with a problem which has never been known in the conscious history of man. You cannot compare it with the early times of Christianity, because that movement did not come from the blood, but came from above, a light that shone forth. This is not a light but a darkness, the powers of darkness are coming up.” Instead of God incarnating in his light aspect, it is as if the powers of darkness are coming out of hiding in the shadows and are showing themselves. It is as if the dark side of our nature, or we could even say the shadow of God, is revealing itself and incarnating itself through the unconscious of humanity.

Our species has been seized by a more powerful energy that has taken us over and is acting itself out through our unconscious. It is as if we are a species possessed. The Unconscious itself is incarnating and becoming visible as it drafts people into its service so as to give shape and form to itself. We then become the unwitting agents through which the Unconscious is literally materializing itself into full-bodied form.

What is getting acted out in the body politic is a reflection and expression of what is happening deep within the collective unconscious of all of humanity. In other words, as if in a dream, the boundary has dissolved between the inner and outer. The inner process of the Unconscious has spilled outside of ourselves, so to speak, and is expressing itself through the medium of the outside world. The Unconscious is non-local, which means it is not bound by time or space. This is to say that the Unconscious is multi-channeled and can express itself both inwardly and/or outwardly. The Unconscious is revealing itself by synchronistically configuring events in the outer world so as to give shape and form to itself. What is happening in our world IS the Unconscious expressing and manifesting itself in, as and through the forms of our world.

We are living in a truly historic moment of time in which the inner is revealing itself to be the outer and visa versa, as the Unconscious births itself through us. The Unconscious is simultaneously revealing itself to us as it acts itself out through us. As long as this deeper process continues to go unrecognized, however, it will continue to get acted out destructively.

The good news is that a deeper realization becomes potentially available to us at such unique moments of time. These times we are living in are truly initiatory. When the Unconscious appears in full-bodied form, it activates a deeper, unconscious process in all of us. Recognizing and metabolizing what is being revealed and activated in us is itself the very act which redeems and transforms our situation. This realization happens through the agency of our consciousness, which is what is being revealed. Recognizing what is being revealed to us is the greatest service we can do not only for ourselves and all of humanity, but for God as well, so to speak.

LIKE GERMANY IN THE 1930s
The fundamental psychic process that underlies what is playing out in our world today has certain striking similarities to what played out in Germany in the 1930s. Speaking back then, Jung could just as well be talking about the modern world when he says, “The struggle between light and darkness has broken out everywhere. The rift runs through the whole globe, and the fire that set Germany ablaze is smouldering and glowing wherever we look. The conflagration that broke out in Germany was the outcome of psychic conditions that are universal.” [Emphasis added]
The eternal mythic struggle between light and darkness, whose source is the psyche and whose arena is the world stage, not only underlies what happened in Germany, but is at the bottom of what is being collectively acted out in the world today. What played out with the rise of fascism in Germany was the manifestation of an unrecognized deeper psychic process that, fractal-like, has been endlessly recreating itself in a destructive way all throughout history. If we fail to recognize this underlying, universal, psychic process--be it in Germany in the 1930s, or current day--the result is a destructive collective psychosis.

The future of humankind depends upon enough of us recognizing the shadow that is being revealed to us through the figure of George W. Bush.

To quote Jung, “The phenomenon we have witnessed in Germany was nothing less than the first outbreak of epidemic insanity, an irruption of the unconscious into what seemed to be a tolerably well-ordered world. A whole nation, as well as countless millions belonging to other nations, were swept into the blood-drenched madness of a war of extermination. No one knew what was happening to him, least of all the Germans, who allowed themselves to be driven to the slaughterhouse by their leading psychopaths like hypnotized sheep.” [Emphasis added] Like Germany, we are in the midst of a collective psychosis. Volcano-like, the Unconscious has erupted into our world, and, unrecognized, is wreaking havoc as it gets unwittingly acted out through us. We don’t want to unthinkingly follow our commander-in-chief and mimic the Germans, who, to quote Jung, “.....follow a mediumistic Fuhrer [which means leader] over the housetops with a sleep-walker’s assurance, only to land in the street with a broken back.”

WE ALL HAVE A GEORGE W. BUSH INSIDE OF US
We could say that George W. Bush, because he has literally become taken over by the Unconscious, is a living embodiment or incarnation of the Unconscious in human form. In other words, Bush is a living, breathing symbol, in full-bodied form, of the state of being unconscious. To recognize that George W. Bush is a symbol reflecting back to us our own unconsciousness is to begin to get insight into and integrate this unconscious part of ourselves.
George W. Bush is a mirrored reflection of the part of ourselves that is unconscious. The inner meaning of the word ‘mirror’ is ‘shadow holder.’ Bush is the embodied reflection, or incarnation, of our own unconscious shadow in living, breathing color.

To quote Jung, “The future of mankind very much depends upon the recognition of the shadow.” This is to say that the future of humankind depends upon enough of us recognizing the shadow that is being revealed to us through the figure of George W. Bush. Recognizing our shadow as it is reflected through Bush is the very act that inoculates us from the negative effects of the collective psychosis. To quote Jung, “If we could see our shadow, we would be immune to any moral and mental infection.” [Emphasis added]

Recognizing that George W. Bush is a mirrored reflection of our own unconscious shadow is to realize that the evil that we see George W. Bush acting out and being an instrument for is something that we too are capable of. To quote Jung, “Nobody is immune to a nationwide evil unless he is unshakably convinced of the danger of his own character being tainted by the same evil.” [Emphasis added] Recognizing our potential, at any moment, to fall asleep and unwittingly become an agent of darkness is to become psychically immunized from falling prey to this malevolent bug.

Jung continues, “But the immunity of the nation depends entirely upon the existence of a leading minority immune to the evil and capable of combating the powerful suggestive effect.” In recognizing the shadow that is being revealed as our own, we are able to connect with each other and collaboratively put our collective lucidity together so as to creatively embrace, express and transmute these shadow energies, benefiting the entire field.

Ultimately, we are not separate from George W. Bush. Compassion spontaneously arises from this realization.

To quote Jung, “So-called leaders are the inevitable symptoms of a mass movement.” [Emphasis added] Both Hitler and Bush have gotten ‘dreamed up’ to express the unconscious shadow of their time. Speaking of the German people, Jung says, “Like the rest of the world, they did not understand wherein Hitler’s significance lay, that he symbolized something in every individual.... He represented the shadow, the inferior part of everybody’s personality, in an overwhelming degree, and this was another reason why they fell for him.” [Emphasis added] To make his point even further, Jung says of Hitler, “The German people would never have been taken in and carried away so completely if this figure had not been a reflected image of the collective German hysteria.” [Emphasis added]

To quote Jung, “So-called leaders are the inevitable symptoms of a mass movement.”

Just like Hitler was in Germany, Bush is an embodied reflection of the madness deep within the collective American psyche. Bush has literally gotten dreamed up into incarnation to embody and reflect back to us the state of our unconscious collective madness. To quote Jung, “A political situation is the manifestation of a parallel psychological problem in millions of individuals. This problem is largely unconscious (which makes it a particularly dangerous one!)” [Emphasis in original]

Anything we are not in conscious relationship with possesses us from behind, beneath our conscious awareness, and acts itself out through us in a way that is destructive. To quote Jung, when the Unconscious is activated and “...not consciously understood, one is possessed by it and hence forced to its fatal goal [which is always destructive].” It is because of Bush’s position of power that our situation is so dangerous, for he is able to act out and give shape and form to the Unconscious on the world stage in a way that creates endless suffering and devastation for the entire planet.

WE ARE A SPECIES GONE MAD
In the figure of George W. Bush we are collaboratively dreaming up someone to incarnate, embody and reflect this unconscious part of ourselves so that we can objectively see it. Our projecting out and dreaming up into full-bodied materialization this asleep part of ourselves is simultaneously the very way we are integrating this unconscious aspect and becoming conscious of it. From this point of view, George W. Bush is really a great Bodhisattva, as someone had to play this incredibly challenging and unpopular role.
Jung, in saying that Hitler, “...gripped the unconscious of normal people,” could have been talking about Bush in our current day. Bush himself has been seized by the Unconscious, as if a deeper, more powerful energy is acting itself out through him. When we become seized, we momentarily forfeit our humanity and develop a certain charm or charisma which has a gripping or enchanting effect on others. Interestingly, to be seized is related to the word ‘rapture.’ When a group like Bush and his supporters are collectively taken over by more powerful unconscious forces, to quote Jung, “...delusions were abroad everywhere, and people began to believe the most absurd things (see rapture), just as the possessed do.”

While getting dreamed up to embody the state of being unconscious, George W. Bush simultaneously activates the Unconscious in the field in a reciprocally co-arising feedback loop. Seeing the Unconscious as it expresses itself through Bush triggers a corresponding, unconscious resonant frequency in ourselves, as we are all interdependent and interconnected in this non-local universe of ours. This is to say that it is impossible to see the Unconscious, such as it is emanating from George W. Bush, and not have our own unconscious activated.

Like Hitler did in Germany, Bush is ‘hooking’ something in the American unconscious that he himself is an expression of. Because Bush himself is so asleep and under a spell, he has an unconscious ability to trigger other people’s unconscious and attract their projections. In a dark sort of way, his lack of awareness is the very source of his hypnotic power over the collective psyche of his followers. He is a conduit through which the Unconscious transmits, propagates and incarnates itself.

We cannot remove ourselves from the equation and become separate from what is happening in the world, for we are the source of what is going on in the world.

Speaking of the danger of having the leader of a country be so asleep, Jung says, “The impressive thing about the German phenomenon is that one man, who is obviously ‘possessed,’ has infected a whole nation to such an extent that everything is set in motion and has started rolling on its course towards perdition.” It is as if the leader who is acting out his unconscious is a megaphone that catalyzes the Unconscious in the field to such a degree that it can potentially precipitate a mass catastrophe. Speaking of this danger of psychic contagion, Jung says, “Perhaps in a more enlightened era a candidate for governmental office will have to have it certified by a psychiatric commission that he is not a bearer of psychic bacilli.”

If we try and relate to Bush and his supporters before we metabolize what has gotten triggered in our unconscious, we will only strengthen the unconscious part of them (and ourselves) in a never-ending cycle that just endlessly perpetuates the polarization in the field. If we become polarized against Bush and his supporters, we are then unwittingly feeding into and supporting their polarized position. If we polarize against Bush and his supporters, we are just as much in our unconscious as they are. We are then just unconsciously reacting to the unconscious part of ourselves which they embody. We are doing the very same thing to them that they are doing to us in a self-generating feedback loop that has no resolution, as if we are mirrors reflecting each other.

By unconsciously reacting in this way, we are complicit in enacting on the world stage the repetition compulsion of the traumatized soul of humanity. We are a species in trauma. By not recognizing that we are reacting to our mirrored reflection, we are dreaming up the very situation which we are fighting against. We are a species gone mad.

We don’t recognize our collective madness because not only is it so pervasive, but because it is so overwhelmingly obvious. All we have to do to see the madness of our species is to open our eyes and look at what we are doing to each other, to the environment which we depend on for our survival, and to ourselves. What more evidence of a collective psychosis do we possibly need? We have become habituated to our collective madness, thinking of it as ‘normal,’ which is in and of itself an expression of our madness.

What is happening in the outside world is related to, and a reflection of, what is going on inside of us. Do we really think that the state of the world has nothing to do with us, that what is happening on the world stage is not expressing something in ourselves? To believe that what is going on in the world today is not related to us is the dissociated fantasy of a person gone mad. We cannot remove ourselves from the equation and become separate from what is happening in the world, for we are the source of what is going on in the world. To experience ourselves as separate from the psychic epidemic that is happening ‘out there’ is itself an expression of our madness.

What is going on in the world is an externalization of our own madness, which is being revealed to us through a world gone mad. We have collaboratively dreamed up our madness into full-blown incarnation, collectively acting it out on the world stage so as to (potentially) become aware of, ultimately heal and thereby integrate this mad part of ourselves.

Until we realize that there is a collective psychosis going on, we are its unwitting instrument. We are then feeding into the collective madness through the denial of our own madness, which is a simply mad thing to do. The denial of our denial is truly maddening, which is to say that our self-deception is a crazy-making activity, both for ourselves and for others.

To realize that we have unwittingly been playing a part in the creation of the collective psychosis is to realize that part of us IS mad. Paradoxically, the very realization of our madness is what re-connects us to our basic sanity. Realizing our complicity in the prevailing madness instantaneously snaps us out of the collective trance and enables us to be of benefit to others, who are recognized to be parts of ourselves which have fallen asleep.

A DEEPER, UNIFIED FIELD
The Unconscious pervades the entire field of human consciousness and it is expressing itself throughout the field in the interdependent and co-related figures of Bush, his supporters, those who react against Bush and those who recognize that we’re all suffering from a form of collective madness. We are all interconnected parts of a whole system or field, and we are picking up roles in this deeper, unified process or field. We are not separate. This deeper, unified field which is in-forming and giving shape to events in our world is the very thing that these events are reflecting back to us to recognize. To recognize this is to instantaneously step out of unwittingly being an instrument for feeding, supporting and creating destruction, and to become an agent of compassion who can be of genuine benefit to others.
The collective psychosis that pervades our planet is a field phenomenon and needs to be contemplated as such. This means that the collective psychosis needs to NOT be viewed through the lens of the separate self, which by its nature pathologizes individual people, who are seen to exist separately from the field. Instead of relating to any part of the field as an isolated entity, it’s important to contemplate the entire interdependent field as the ‘medium’ through which the collective psychosis is articulating itself. Yes, George W. Bush is mad, AND he is a reflection of the part of all of us that is mad (see my article “The Madness of George W. Bush: A Reflection of our Collective Psychosis”). The reason why it is so hard for our culture to recognize Bush’s madness is because our culture itself is mad. Bush’s madness is our own.

The fact that the mental health community, which should be concerned with psychic hygiene (both personal and collective), is not even addressing the issue of a collective psychosis is an expression that the mental health community is itself embedded in and hence, infected with the very psychic epidemic that it should be studying. The fact that the underlying psychic roots of our current world crisis are not even part of our planetary dialogue is itself an expression of the pervasive unconsciousness inherent in the psychic epidemic. Our unawareness of there being a psychic epidemic is itself a symptom of the psychic epidemic.

To recognize that the collective psychosis that is running rampant on our planet is a field phenomenon is to develop a more expansive, holistic vision in which we step out of the illusory identity which imagines that we are discrete entities who are separate from one another. This realization of our interconnectedness expresses itself as compassion. Together we are all collaboratively dreaming up what is happening. This is a mass shared dream in which we are all complicit.

As Jung writes, when we realize our complicity, “Such a man knows that whatever is wrong in the world is also in himself, and if he only learns to deal with his own shadow, he has done something real for the world. He has succeeded in shouldering at least an infinitesimal part of the gigantic, unsolved problems of our day."

The way to change our world is through the individual, one person at a time. Any one of us metabolizing the unconscious shadow as it gets triggered in our daily life instantaneously affects the entire universe, as we are not separate. As Jung points out, if the Unconscious is “...properly dealt with in one place only, it is influenced as a whole, i.e., simultaneously and everywhere.” Because of our interconnectedness, any one of us recognizing the underlying psychic roots of the collective madness that is playing out on the world stage affects the entire field and paves the way for collective realization.

The Unconscious, in its manifestation as a collective psychosis, is revealing to us that the key to resolving our world crisis lies in consciousness itself. Any one of us realizing this might be the very grain of sand that tips the scales for all of humanity and precipitates a collective awakening of consciousness that has been unable to manifest until right now. Imagine that!:cool:

[peachped]

"You should give thanks youve been exposed to good hearts, rich and diverse beauty and thinking. Imagine how great these people must be, to have been so abused for so long and still manage to constantly dig deep and strive to carry themselves with dignity, class and the divine within. You have a lot to learn from them. Wow, astouding to see how such stupidity can survive so long. Then again, evil is a force that has had its way for far too long."


All one way evil eh? :rolleyes:

http://www.florida-cracker.org/archives/denny.JPG

[foreverspirit]

"You should give thanks youve been exposed to good hearts, rich and diverse beauty and thinking. Imagine how great these people must be, to have been so abused for so long and still manage to constantly dig deep and strive to carry themselves with dignity, class and the divine within. You have a lot to learn from them. Wow, astouding to see how such stupidity can survive so long. Then again, evil is a force that has had its way for far too long."


All one way evil eh? :rolleyes:

http://www.florida-cracker.org/archives/denny.JPG

I didnt see anywhere my saying one way. Did you? Or is it simply an unconscious sumpin sumpin surfacing for you to see? Can ya really lie to yourself?


As for the picture, you only reiterate the following:

Beat and humiliate your dog and or pet and see if he doesnt turn around and bite you on your bum one day!! Try it with your friend, wife or child. You mean its learned behavior:eek: Now way pawww!! Simple Truths.:rolleyes::cool:


Like I said, educate yourself.