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moonflower
10-01-2010, 05:00 PM
Well as if we didn't know already:

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242049/Michael-Jackson-WAS-murdered-Death-certificate-amended-coroner-police-investigation.html)

So will there be an investigation into the background of Conrad Murray and who really pulled his strings in order to pop MJ off?

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Ian2day
10-01-2010, 05:12 PM
Well as if we didn't know already:

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242049/Michael-Jackson-WAS-murdered-Death-certificate-amended-coroner-police-investigation.html)

So will there be an investigation into the background of Conrad Murray and who really pulled his strings in order to pop MJ off?

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I'd like to know what documents, if any, he vanished with, immediately after Jackos death.

meksar
10-01-2010, 06:58 PM
Well as if we didn't know already:

Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1242049/Michael-Jackson-WAS-murdered-Death-certificate-amended-coroner-police-investigation.html)

So will there be an investigation into the background of Conrad Murray and who really pulled his strings in order to pop MJ off?

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Lethal Injection, why was he murdered?, because he had something very important to share with his fans and had outlived his usefulness to the agenda. He was a global icon and i do hope he is in a better place now. His family were aware of it and played along as to his soulless father "he is worth more dead than alive". I think it was done by the dark forces who control the music industry by murder, exploitation and blackmail.

ennui
10-01-2010, 07:19 PM
Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray a 1989 graduate of Meharry Medical College in Nashville who practices medicine in California, Nevada and Texas.

Murray's Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments: $228,000 to Citicorp Vendor Finance Inc. in November 2007, $71,000 to an education loan company in June 2008 and $135,000 to a leasing company last September. He faces at least two other pending cases.

Clark County, Nev., court records show Murray was hit last December with a nearly $3,700 judgment for failure to pay child support in a San Diego case, and had his wages garnished the same month for almost $1,500 in a court judgment won by a credit card company. Another credit card claim for more than $1,100 filed in April remains open.

He owes $940 in fines and penalties for driving with an expired license plate and no proof of insurance in 2000.

zmanforever
10-01-2010, 08:04 PM
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2010/01/10/michael-jackson-death-certificate-homicide-online/

Good link says murder probably by “acute propofol intoxication” and “intravenous injection by another."

d9d9d9
10-01-2010, 08:29 PM
Lethal Injection, why was he murdered?, because he had something very important to share with his fans and had outlived his usefulness to the agenda. He was a global icon and i do hope he is in a better place now. His family were aware of it and played along as to his soulless father "he is worth more dead than alive". I think it was done by the dark forces who control the music industry by murder, exploitation and blackmail.

Better place? Like...surrounded by little naked boys and stuff?

:confused:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01541/angels_1541195i.jpg

burial
10-01-2010, 08:47 PM
That pic is so gross...its beyond words...


Homicide means it wasnt intentional....

theoneandonly
10-01-2010, 08:55 PM
Better place? Like...surrounded by little naked boys and stuff?

:confused:

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01541/angels_1541195i.jpg

they are called cherubs... and how the hell do you figure that they are all boys? because some definitly look like girls...?

Just stop it with your sick unfounded posts... and stop derailing the thread

ennui
10-01-2010, 09:01 PM
That pic is so gross...its beyond words...


Homicide means it wasnt intentional....

Since when? I think you're getting it confused with manslaughter?

burial
10-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Since when? I think you're getting it confused with manslaughter?

Ah, yes I did. :o

onourwayto2012
10-01-2010, 09:58 PM
Records reveal years of financial troubles for Murray a 1989 graduate of Meharry Medical College in Nashville who practices medicine in California, Nevada and Texas.

Murray's Nevada medical practice, Global Cardiovascular Associates, was slapped with more than $400,000 in court judgments: $228,000 to Citicorp Vendor Finance Inc. in November 2007, $71,000 to an education loan company in June 2008 and $135,000 to a leasing company last September. He faces at least two other pending cases.

Clark County, Nev., court records show Murray was hit last December with a nearly $3,700 judgment for failure to pay child support in a San Diego case, and had his wages garnished the same month for almost $1,500 in a court judgment won by a credit card company. Another credit card claim for more than $1,100 filed in April remains open.

He owes $940 in fines and penalties for driving with an expired license plate and no proof of insurance in 2000.

Wow....sounds like the perfect patsy!

darryl84
10-01-2010, 10:03 PM
As soon as i heard michael jackson had died, something didn't feel right, michael gave out a lot of love, and certain beings want to keep people in fear as much as possible. Add one and one, and get two.

cleopatraxxx
10-01-2010, 11:02 PM
As soon as i heard michael jackson had died, something didn't feel right, michael gave out a lot of love, and certain beings want to keep people in fear as much as possible. Add one and one, and get two.

+1.........:-(

thellght
10-01-2010, 11:52 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

strengthofknowledge
11-01-2010, 02:08 AM
he was possessed to do evil things but deep down was a good person. he was revealing secrets soon "biggest secret ever".... thats why he was offed.... just like many before him... " how long shall they kill our profets- while we stand aside and look?" Bob Marley. rip heros ill do all i can to avenge those deaths

leviathanstaar
11-01-2010, 04:24 AM
I wonder if he suspected this might happen so deeply, he took steps to ensure what he had to say would be heard at some point.

icecoldmeltz
11-01-2010, 06:04 AM
Death Certificate' looks nothing like ares in the uk. They sure look like Bonds Dont You Think.. Anyone care to post birth & death certificates, US & UK

gaias child
11-01-2010, 01:20 PM
Michael was definitely murdered, when you research in depth it is very obvious but homicide does not mean murder and the doctor is being charged with involuntary manslaughter, which is what I predicted would happen at the begining, he will walk and he will be rewarded big time financially. Interesting this doctor was hugely in debt a little like Evan Chandler ,these people are pawns/puppets of tptb who sought to destroy MJ and his career.

Michael sang songs about the importance of love and unity he also did many speeches before the final allegations on the ending of war and on how the problems in our world started with children and could be healed through healing our children, he was completely right and must have been a nighmare to tptb which is why they had to destroy him first his career and finally when they realised that him coming back and doing these concerts the character assassination would no longer work they killed him.

The first agenda against him was in 92/93 when he ws doing songs like heal the world and set up charity, and drew attention to the wars in bosnia and he personally organised airlifted supplies. The second agenda against him was after he spoke out on Sony and also was writing songs like we have had enough against war and doing speeches on that we needed to unite and love eachother and doing speeches on how the system lies to us.

The will is forged, as MJ was not in LA the date it was signed but in NY protesting against sony, and Tommy Mottola and corruption in the music industry. The will also has the incorrect names of his children. The people that have profited from MJ death are sony, and exector of will John Branca who Michael fired in 2006 after discovering he was working for sony's interests, and was corrupt, funny though 8 days before he died he wrote to John Branca reinstating him to take care of his affairs. How convenient for John Branca Highly unlikely imo. Being an Executor of MJ estate is like being CEO of a global corporate company. He will make millions.

Also there is the sony/atv publishingcatelogue worth at least 4.5 billion as it was valued during the trial by Thomas Mesereax, Michael felt the agenda against him was to create a situation to force him to sell the catelogue, but he refused,

gwynned
11-01-2010, 07:49 PM
Michael was definitely murdered, when you research in depth it is very obvious but homicide does not mean murder and the doctor is being charged with involuntary manslaughter, which is what I predicted would happen at the begining, he will walk and he will be rewarded big time financially. Interesting this doctor was hugely in debt a little like Evan Chandler ,these people are pawns/puppets of tptb who sought to destroy MJ and his career.



Dr. Murray is not his real name. He changed it in February of last year.
Michael Jackson in alive. I am certain of that. Check out Michael Jackson Death Hoax on Youtube. Start with JonnelStarTV. PM me if you want more links.

gaias child
12-01-2010, 08:37 AM
Dr. Murray is not his real name. He changed it in February of last year.
Michael Jackson in alive. I am certain of that. Check out Michael Jackson Death Hoax on Youtube. Start with JonnelStarTV. PM me if you want more links.

Have you got a link to Murray name change?

linda28
12-01-2010, 08:51 PM
Michael is alive :)

There are so many clues to look at in all this.

For instance, look at Kenny Ortega's (director of THIS IS IT) twitter account, twitter.com/kennyortegablog , from some days ago he leaves another clue - a woman asks him if he doesn't feel it's gross to say "long live the king" (MJ) when he is dead.

Kenny's reply is " No Gina, I don't agree with you. The meaning behind Long Live the King has a different meaning for me obviously"

WHY did he reply to her? He didn't have to. Because he knows 20.000 people and hoax believers are following him.

The FBI file contained 333 pages. Odd number.

andiliz
13-01-2010, 03:15 AM
Michael is alive :)

There are so many clues to look at in all this.

For instance, look at Kenny Ortega's (director of THIS IS IT) twitter account, twitter.com/kennyortegablog , from some days ago he leaves another clue - a woman asks him if he doesn't feel it's gross to say "long live the king" (MJ) when he is dead.

Kenny's reply is " No Gina, I don't agree with you. The meaning behind Long Live the King has a different meaning for me obviously"

WHY did he reply to her? He didn't have to. Because he knows 20.000 people and hoax believers are following him.

The FBI file contained 333 pages. Odd number.
I don't trust Kenny Ortega I think he is part of the illuminati he 'mind controlled' Michael Jackson!!
Bonnie Vent and many others prove Michael Jackson did die:
Michael Jackson channeled session - Warning to fans - YouTube

gaias child
14-01-2010, 08:14 AM
Michael is alive :)

There are so many clues to look at in all this.

For instance, look at Kenny Ortega's (director of THIS IS IT) twitter account, twitter.com/kennyortegablog , from some days ago he leaves another clue - a woman asks him if he doesn't feel it's gross to say "long live the king" (MJ) when he is dead.

Kenny's reply is " No Gina, I don't agree with you. The meaning behind Long Live the King has a different meaning for me obviously"

WHY did he reply to her? He didn't have to. Because he knows 20.000 people and hoax believers are following him.

The FBI file contained 333 pages. Odd number.

Kenny says long live the king to mean long live Michael spirit, only he means in music as in "King of Pop" and of course he would say that, they want to keep Michael memory alive in music so the money comes rolling in, all these people have made more money imaginable out of Michael's death than if he had been alive, if Michael had been alive, he would have made it instead. and no it doesn't go to the trust, the trust only gets the titbits the vultures Branca Sony etc, choose to throw them.

I understand that people may not want to accept Michael is dead, but some of the earlier hoax sites and videos were done by media and Sony, they wanted to cause division distraction so that Michael murder can not be solved. It is good to look at all the info and I do look at the hoax videos too some of them are good with good factual info too ie lunajoy.

Michael cannot be alive when you see the will is forged it was signed in LA on 7/7/2002 but MJ was in NY on 7/7/2002 campaigning against Mottola and Sony, the kids names are wrong on the will and many other inconsistencies, and he fired Branca in 2006. Branca and Sony AEG CC and Thome have all profited from Michael and he did not trust them. CC got neverland, owner of neverland tom barrack metup with Phillip Answutz oil/media mogul who owns AEG. Listen to MJ speech against sony, he hated what they stood for, he fired Branca in 2006 for working against MJ interests with sony, this came out in court. Thome stole money, and was also fired, shortly before MJ died, Michael says in a leaked tape to June Gaitlin that he is fearful of Thome and he has no control over his finances as Thome controls it.

The fact that Sony are going after MJJC and the fans proves they are scared of what information is on that forum

theoneandonly
15-01-2010, 12:16 AM
The fact that Sony are going after MJJC and the fans proves they are scared of what information is on that forum

Are you a member there? :)

gwynned
15-01-2010, 06:46 AM
I don't trust Kenny Ortega I think he is part of the illuminati he 'mind controlled' Michael Jackson!!
Bonnie Vent and many others prove Michael Jackson did die:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i14zMzM4hBQ

Well I give up. Someone channeling Michael says he is dead. He must be, despite all the crazy circumstances around his death. Well, we may soon find out one way or another. Here's the latest from the Thisisalsoit.com website. As you will see, this is well constructed and thought out.

http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=3391

It's time consuming to go through. The 'channeler' mentions that MJ would not leave his kids. If you've followed the hoax, it's obvious most if not all of his family is 'in' on it, including the kids. Also, if you've followed the hoax, you will realize that MJ went to considerable lengths to leave a trail of clues for his fans.

If that's not enough, check out the title on the Sony release of the DVD:

Staging the Return: The adventure begins.
Staging The Return: The Adventure Begins - "Something to Think About" - YouTube

And before you start dissing Sony, MJ owns half of it. Something to think about.

gaias child
15-01-2010, 08:35 AM
Are you a member there? :)

Yes I joined in the hope I would find more info on what happened to MJ, some people have inside info, there are loads of inflitrators for Sony too spreading disinfo and derailing every single thread on the investigation into MJ death to throw people off and confuse fans.

They closed the two biggest fan clubs and forums during the trials and one of them, the owner had her life threatened.

linda28
15-01-2010, 12:21 PM
Yes I joined in the hope I would find more info on what happened to MJ, some people have inside info, there are loads of inflitrators for Sony too spreading disinfo and derailing every single thread on the investigation into MJ death to throw people off and confuse fans.

They closed the two biggest fan clubs and forums during the trials and one of them, the owner had her life threatened.


You are talking about the hoax sites right? I have been a member there since beginning of July. And I have witnessed everything that has happened. So now we know, that Sony most likely never was a part of the forums. But some people there thought so. And these people are not so good at doing research etc. They jump to conclusions because they are under stress and worry in the whole MJ investigation. It was a matter of someone believing the IP addresses were the same. But they had no clue that it was the IP of a web host, and not the owner. But it was enough that someone panicked and created their own forum and spread around that "Sony owns MJHD.COM"

There have been attempts to hack and destroy the websites, but this is not of Sony, but most likely, jealous retards that wanna make their own MJ website the biggest and so on. And this person you are talking about that got threatened recently, she is a nutcase, trust me. She wants to hurt MJ's name and creates so many lies. She loves drama, and a lot of people hate her. She was banned from the original michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.com site, and now she owns it - it redirects to her own site. It's probably she that hacked into the original mjhd site as well.

She is playing with the fans's emotions with all her insane theories. And no, Sony has not threatened any forums. It was a way for her to get attention regarding her recent publishing her own "illuminati and MJ theory".

The forums are for the fans to share their thoughts and clues. No one can manipulate that or deceive. We mostly look at videos of members of the Jackson family, the photographer with last shot, hospital staff (lack of), statements "slip-ups" from them in public.

It's important to remember that there are so many hoaxers around that try and get attention in the whole MJ case now. Especially the thisisalsoit.com website. They want to make themselves look like they have inside info - they do not. Their "reveal" was a let down. Nothing new we didn't already know, and they were wrong in predicting the MJ return. (duh) Yet they compare themselves to the one and only.

So, for all the new people that go to the forums or youtube, you need to be aware that no one has yet come up with any clues. It's all BS

andiliz
16-01-2010, 12:16 AM
Yes I joined in the hope I would find more info on what happened to MJ, some people have inside info, there are loads of inflitrators for Sony too spreading disinfo and derailing every single thread on the investigation into MJ death to throw people off and confuse fans.

They closed the two biggest fan clubs and forums during the trials and one of them, the owner had her life threatened.
What were the two biggest MJ fan clubs and forums called??
Was one of them called "MJSource"??
I used to belong to "MJ News International" which doesn't exist anymore.

Kenny Ortega gets rewarded by the elite for his work and MJ is murdered life isn't fair. MJ cared so much about the world.

gaias child
16-01-2010, 08:18 AM
MJJF was supoened by Tom Sneddon and threatened with closure and the owner had life threatened, I'm not sure which the other one was it might have been MJNO, but I'm not certain which one it was

The two you mention I've heard of too, but I don't know maybe they closed for some reason too