South Africa's White Farmers Under Siege

[december]

Orange Free State, South Africa --

The African dawn cried out with a radiant blaze of red and orange pastel strokes along the horizon. The Coeztee farmstead basked in the light of the emerging morning like a gleaming pearl and golden mielie fields swayed in the soft Orange State breeze.

"It's paradise, isn't it?" South African farmer Kobus Coeztee asked WorldNetDaily, marveling at the peaceful sunrise. "I am the fourth generation to farm this land, and Lord willing, there will be another five generations after me."

WorldNetDaily observed a full day of back breaking labor on Coetzee's farm and was treated to a proper braii of lamb, an Afrikaner staple. Many Afrikaners also make a strong drink called "mampoer" from fermented peaches and other ingredients.

However, Coezteeís hopes for the future are threatened by the low intensity warfare being waged against the Afrikaner people by radical blacks of the "Azania People's Organization" or AZAPO.

There are 40,000 white farmers in South Africa. Over 1200 have been brutally murdered since 1994 - the year the Marxist African National Congress, backed by the United Nations, European Union, Russia, China and the U.S. State Department, took power.

Add to this another 6,000 attacks and the white Boer Afrikaner farmer is easily the highest at-risk murder group on Earth. The ANC has responded to this crisis by blaming whites and putting a ban on crime statistics because they scare off foreign investment.

"I won't hold my breath waiting for Oprah to call, or Jesse Jackson, Jimmy Carter or Al Sharpton," Coetzee told WorldNetDaily.

"It's politically correct to kill whites these days. What is so strange is the fact that we white farmers feed the black population. But look at Zimbabwe. The black leaders have engineered a famine against their own black citizens. It's as if it's all part of some horrible 'master plan.' Apparently getting blacks to starve blacks to death doesn't really bother anyone in the Western world."

To the north, Zimbabweís Marxist dictator Robert Mugabe has liquidated the nation's white farmers with illegal land siezures and torture, rape and murder.

"The world community has stood by and done nothing," says Aletta Kloppers, Coetzee's closest neighbor. "So we have no choice but to defend ourselves."

Kloppers explained how rogue blacks broke into her farmhouse and tried to rape and rob her family, which includes four teenaged daughters. Many of the killings of white farmers include the torture, rape and mutilation of women, including small children, toddlers and even babies.

"Fortunately my husband and I were able to use our firearms to drive them off of our land. But they will be back," she told WorldNetDaily.

Kloppers said that she hired a martial arts teacher to work with her family on hand to hand combat and knife fighting.

"Our daughters are beautiful yes, but they are tough too," Kloppers said. "You won't see the Afrikaner children in tattoos, gang clothes, riddled with diseases and their bodies filled with holes. We are Christians and we will fight for Christian civilization. We know who are enemies are in the mass media, those who would destroy the minds and bodies of our children. When the war finally comes in this country and through the Western world, the cultural elites will be the first to be confronted."

"We Afrikaners are a fair and decent people. We are glad Apartheid is over and we are ready to embrace change," farmer Kalfi Van der Wat told WorldNetDaily. Van der Wat collects antique automobiles and stores them on his farm west of Johannesburg.

One of the latest problems facing South Africaís farmers is that some of the farm killings appear to be drug related. South African Police told WorldNetDaily that Pakistani's have bought up several farmers after the white owners were killed and began planting poppies of Central Asian origin.

"South Africa's dirty little secret, well, there are many dirty secrets here, is that we are the transit point for 25 percent of the world's drugs," South African policewoman Debbie Botha told WorldNetDaily.

South Africaís farmers, frustrated with an apathetic government that actually seems to "cheer on the killings of whites" says Van der Wat, have turned to a variety of options in dealing with the crime wave.

One option is the creation of private security companies, staffed by former elite special forces operators of the now defunct South African Defense Force. The SADF drove out Cuba and the Soviets from Angola in the 1980's and is known to have produced some of the world's finest soldiers.

Several groups of farmers have sought the help of Executive Outcomes, led by former Apartheid-era SADF Special Forces members. EO is the world's largest, private mercenary army and has fought in Angola, Sierra Leone, Papua New Guinea and in other nations as well.

Yet despite their best efforts, the killings continue.

"The radical blacks hate us, because we are strong, blonde, hard working and productive. We came to South Africa and turned it into the richest country in the world, while before we came, the locals had been here for many centuries and did nothing with the land," Coetzee told WorldNetDaily.

Added Kloppers, "The farm invasion problem is not only confined to South Africa. Look at Zimbabwe. Look at the call for white Australians to give their land back to the Aborigines. Look at the problems on the border with Mexico and the United States, and as massive Third World immigration in Europe. European, Western Civilization is totally under siege by the New World Order elite. But we are strong and smart and we will survive as we always have."

"We are strong and rugged and we will survive. We have fought the communists and the United Nations globalists for decades. We know their tactics. I can assure you there is indeed a plan for a Third Boer War, down to the last detail. It wonít take much to cripple South Africaís cities and water supply I can assure you. People are angry and ready for war. We have seen our women and children raped and killed. Sometimes a war is the only answer to your problems. Remember, the great Boer prophet Seer van Rensburg has prophecized that the whites will again come to rule in Southern Africa."

Meanwhile in South Africa, last week Cape Talk radio interviewed a interviewed a Zimbabwean Reuters reporter and broadcaster who has been granted ex-white farm land. His name is Reuben Babwe. In defending himself, he told the Cape Talk interviewer that the same thing is being done in South Africa and that he knows what is really going on with farm repossession in South Africa. The interviewer asked him whether he meant the farm murders here are part of the repossession drive and he said yes. Babwe said that South Africans are "sitting on a powder keg."

http://www.rense.com/general25/wfrm.htm

[brotherapostate]

Also look out on youtube for the sky news report.

It's only racist when white people do it, dont you know

[december]

And it's not only in South Africa...

White farmers under siege in Zimbabwe
15 August, 2002

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38195000/jpg/_38195857_mugabe150afp.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38197000/jpg/_38197732_staying300ap.jpg

Tension is mounting in Zimbabwe as pro-government militants attempt to force defiant farmers to leave their land.

An estimated 2,900 white farmers should have left their houses by midnight last Thursday, according to a recently passed law.

A white farmer became the first to be evicted from his property after a group of militants seized his farm north of the capital, Harare.

In a separate incident, Hazel Thornhill returned to her farm in the eastern district of Marondera after spending a few days away and found her property occupied.

READ MORE -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2192947.stm

Zimbabwe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[eat_a_grey]

I have some extremely graphic photos of some of these murders..

I wont share them though,they are just too brutal.Im not even sure why I still have them.:confused:

[december]

I have some extremely graphic photos of some of these murders..

I wont share them though,they are just too brutal.Im not even sure why I still have them.:confused:


Well, you can post a link...

And by the way, here's what people post here in OFFICIAL Icke forum:


Guess what..


Whites are just going to be bred out. Deal with it.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9885


A member of the official David Icke forum tells us that there is a plan for white people - they will be bred out.

[spiraltrance]

I think it will be a grave mistake to for SA to attack or take land from the white farmers. That's what they did in zimbabwe and now that country is paying the price.

[tiswas]

white people actually outnumber black people december.
what will happen, if god forbid, one of those white kiddies are born with a disabilty december, will you kill them like hitler did.

[brotherapostate]

what will happen, if god forbid, one of those white kiddies are born with a disabilty december, will you kill them like hitler did.

I hope I am misinterpreting your post, but are you equating December on par with Hitler simply for pointing out black crime rates?

[trumansho]

And it's not only in South Africa...

White farmers under siege in Zimbabwe
15 August, 2002

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38195000/jpg/_38195857_mugabe150afp.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38197000/jpg/_38197732_staying300ap.jpg

Tension is mounting in Zimbabwe as pro-government militants attempt to force defiant farmers to leave their land.

An estimated 2,900 white farmers should have left their houses by midnight last Thursday, according to a recently passed law.

A white farmer became the first to be evicted from his property after a group of militants seized his farm north of the capital, Harare.

In a separate incident, Hazel Thornhill returned to her farm in the eastern district of Marondera after spending a few days away and found her property occupied.

READ MORE -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2192947.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimbabwe
Why can't blacks live without any influence of western civilization?

[trumansho]

white people actually outnumber black people december.
what will happen, if god forbid, one of those white kiddies are born with a disabilty december, will you kill them like hitler did.
on what planet?

[trumansho]

whites, shouldn't be coming into other people countries and trying to rule and take over everything. They have been doing it from day one.

[archangel]

I have a college buddy who is from South Africa.

He said it was a great place to live back in the day. Very clean city, low crime rates. and lots of tourism.

He said once the government lifted the segragation rule and the Tribal Africans started moving in everything went down hill.

He spoke of the White farmers and their families who were brutally murdered By African tribes.

He said the savages reasoning for this is that they thought this land used to be theirs and now saw how nice it had become and wanted it back so they would raid the farms, steal what they could, and murder the white farmers for being on "their land" which was legally purchased by the white settlers.

[archangel]

whites, shouldn't be coming into other people countries and trying to rule and take over everything. They have been doing it from day one.

Then Blacks,Mexicans,and Orientals shouldn't be coming into white countries either then?!!

If you agree on that than I respect your opinion. If not then you definetly have racial hatred for white people.

These South Africans were on this land Legally!!! they didn't come there to dominate and enslave people. :mad:

[ninja17]

whites, shouldn't be coming into other people countries and trying to rule and take over everything. They have been doing it from day one.

i am 50/50 on that.as long as people no matter which race they are have the opportunity to settle down there and open factories or whutever to help the people around them and NOT steel their land`s treasures and ruin their lives,it is ok...

[synergy777]

truman, rule 1 of plantation earth.

whatever they do is mandated by god, what type of god, test them by their fruits, lol

[trumansho]

Then Blacks,Mexicans,and Orientals shouldn't be coming into white countries either then?!!

If you agree on that than I respect your opinion. If not then you definetly have racial hatred for white people.

These South Africans were on this land Legally!!! they didn't come there to dominate and enslave people. :mad:Whites, just about invaded every country including this one they took from the natives. So I don't care what you think of me. Whites, over her are always tellign blacks in America to go back to Africa when they over trying to take it from Africans. Whites, shouldn't want to be in all that sun anyway,because it destroys their recessive skin.

[synergy777]

true don't let one cracker ruin your opinion on all otehr whites. there are good ones. just ignore the fool. ask yourself, if he really thinks this, is he sane, lucid, compassionate, spiritual ?

he can't take the changes, its stockholm syndrome, and denial. don't waste your energy on him. bro, get that dust off your shoulder, lol

real recognise real, remember that.

[lumukanda]

here's the thing that most people don't know about south africa, at around the time that the dutch settlers arrived in the south west (cape town), the nguni tribes were moving down into eastern south africa and zimbabwe, both of them displacing the original inhabitants of southern africa, the bushmen and khoi-khoi people (collectively know as the khoi-san). these guys lived in the entire region, as far north as botswana, and will into namibia. often times they were killed, or in the case of the xhosa, they married into their families (which is where the xhosa language gets it's distinctive clicking sounds).
so while nguni (xhosa, zulu, sotho etc etc, most of the black tribes of south africa) and the whites (predominantely of dutch and english heritage) fight about who owns the land, no one gives a shit about the original inhabitants of south africa.
yes white people took away a lot of nguni tribal land, land that white farmers acquired 'legaly' (through such wonderful laws as the native land act of 1910, whereby 'natives', ie. black people, were not allowed to own land, and the group areas act, whereby the government allocated which parts of any given town or city would be inhabited by which racial group) and still live on today, but often times that very nguni tribal land was actually originally khoi-san land, so a bit of perspective is called for, someone has almost always kicked someone else off a piece of land.
do africans have a claim to large pieces of white south african farmer's land? yes. should it be taken away from them? personally i feel no, what should happen, like what has been done in the region that i live in, the prospective farmers are trained, the farms are subdivided and everyone is happy, there's a certain degree of water under the bridge, and to kick white farmers off their land now would only have south africa end up where zimbabwe is now, plan it properly, then by all means, but the government has been guilty of buying white farms and giving them to black farmers with little or no skills in modern farming, and then let's not mention all the supplies they need. this is not fair on the new farmers, they are labelled failures, where without money, they didn't stand a chance anyway.

and as for the so-called genocide of whites in south africa, maybe it's just because despite south africa being wonderful country of where race doesn't matter, you still find the murder of a white person on the front page of the newspapers, whereas the thousands of black people who die too, rarely get that much. i am a white south african, i have never been robbed, shot at, assaulted by a black person (i was mugged in london though), neither has any member of my family, or my girlfriend, or her family, i do not live in the fear that expat south africans are so fond of talking about, yes we have crime, yes it can be dangerous, but it can be so anywhere.

[trumansho]

here's the thing that most people don't know about south africa, at around the time that the dutch settlers arrived in the south west (cape town), the nguni tribes were moving down into eastern south africa and zimbabwe, both of them displacing the original inhabitants of southern africa, the bushmen and khoi-khoi people (collectively know as the khoi-san). these guys lived in the entire region, as far north as botswana, and will into namibia. often times they were killed, or in the case of the xhosa, they married into their families (which is where the xhosa language gets it's distinctive clicking sounds).
so while nguni (xhosa, zulu, sotho etc etc, most of the black tribes of south africa) and the whites (predominantely of dutch and english heritage) fight about who owns the land, no one gives a shit about the original inhabitants of south africa.
yes white people took away a lot of nguni tribal land, land that white farmers acquired 'legaly' (through such wonderful laws as the native land act of 1910, whereby 'natives', ie. black people, were not allowed to own land, and the group areas act, whereby the government allocated which parts of any given town or city would be inhabited by which racial group) and still live on today, but often times that very nguni tribal land was actually originally khoi-san land, so a bit of perspective is called for, someone has almost always kicked someone else off a piece of land.
do africans have a claim to large pieces of white south african farmer's land? yes. should it be taken away from them? personally i feel no, what should happen, like what has been done in the region that i live in, the prospective farmers are trained, the farms are subdivided and everyone is happy, there's a certain degree of water under the bridge, and to kick white farmers off their land now would only have south africa end up where zimbabwe is now, plan it properly, then by all means, but the government has been guilty of buying white farms and giving them to black farmers with little or no skills in modern farming, and then let's not mention all the supplies they need. this is not fair on the new farmers, they are labelled failures, where without money, they didn't stand a chance anyway.

and as for the so-called genocide of whites in south africa, maybe it's just because despite south africa being wonderful country of where race doesn't matter, you still find the murder of a white person on the front page of the newspapers, whereas the thousands of black people who die too, rarely get that much. i am a white south african, i have never been robbed, shot at, assaulted by a black person (i was mugged in london though), neither has any member of my family, or my girlfriend, or her family, i do not live in the fear that expat south africans are so fond of talking about, yes we have crime, yes it can be dangerous, but it can be so anywhere.That's what I'm saying. They always taking something that's not theirs and expect people to treat them with respect and want to always use the "White Card" when things don't go their way or they don't like what you say. How many people of Hue you see going around and invading people countries and stealing their culture and accomplishments?

[11indigo11]

I live in South Africa and its not the best place in the world to live...actually far from it.:(

Ten years after Apartheid (1994-2004): The Raw Facts

Here are the things you will never see in the major news media regarding post-apartheid South Africa:


# In 10 years 1+ million South Africans, mostly blacks, lost their jobs due to the ANC's creeping socialism.

# Unemployment is at a staggering 45%+ - much worse than under white rule & worse than the 30% unemployment in the USA during the Great Depression.

# 1 million whites stand to lose their jobs in the coming years to Affirmative Action programs.

# 1,450+ White commercial farmers have been murdered by black thugs and our food production is being threatened by "Land Reform".

# They say that by 2014, 30% of commercial farmland now owned by Whites will be owned by Blacks (though I think it will happen much sooner & on a much bigger scale).

# 115,000 land claims by Blacks have been processed so far - and millions of hectares of land have been handed over to them.

# There are farms in South Africa, which were prosperous when run by Whites, that were handed over to Blacks. These farms then collapsed after 2 years of black management and are now derelict.

# South Africa is the rape capital of the world... it is conservatively estimated that we have 50,000 rapes per year.

# 21,500 children were raped in 2000.

# 40% of rape survivors are under 18.

# 1,231 children under 5 were raped in 13 months by blacks believing in AIDS myths. Many babies who are raped die.

# South Africa is now an international drug-smuggling route, comparable to Colombia.

# We export cannabis grown overwhelmingly by Blacks.

# 150-200 policemen are shot dead annually by violent criminals.

# Our police have the highest suicide rate in the world.

# Our society is 7 times more violent (per capita) than the USA

# Crime is so high the government put a moratorium on the release of crime statistics for a year and fudged them ever since.

# The Democratic Alliance (conservatively) estimates there are 300,000 robberies per year

# South African prisons are often filled to capacity (170,000+) and then thousands are let go, sometimes without being charged.

# In January 2004, it was reported that some of the prisons are 300% over capacity.

# In March 2004, it was reported that the prison population was 180,000.

# Mandela's "Birthday Present" to the country (yes they used those words), was to release 9,000 criminals.

# Murderers have been "forgiven" by our Presidents, only to murder again.

# On 3rd March 2004, on SABC TV3 News it was announced that to "Celebrate Ten Years of Democracy" they might let thousands of prisoners go free.

# More prisons have been built after apartheid but even that is not enough to cope with the crime wave.

# More blacks are in our prisons after apartheid than before. (They no longer fear the Police).

# The ANC LOVES criminals. They gave them the vote! It was announced that over 100,000 prisoners would be registered & allowed to vote

# We had 10 years of peace, with no international sanctions and yet, the much-awaited boom never came along.

# Our socialist economy dribbles along. GDP growth is estimated at 1.3% per annum which compares weakly with (sometimes) double digit growth rates under white rule.

# In the Johannesburg (Gauteng) area, 80% of self-help schemes for Blacks have failed since 1994.

# Let there be no illusions where the ANC wants to take us. They support & give money to: Zimbabwe, Haiti & DRC (Zaire) who are ruled by socialist dictators who suppress even the Blacks!

# In the April 2004 election the ANC finally attained its goal of getting 66% vote. This means they can change the constitution at will and no other political party can stop them.

# This is what Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe was able to do before he took 95% of the land from 4,500 white farmers.

# Now that we are officially, and legally the latest One Party State in Africa, we will walk the path of others like Zimbabwe where eventually nobody, not even the Blacks, have any freedom any more...

# South Africa's economy, employment & crime rates were better when the world hated us.

Source:

http://www.africancrisis.org/Ph_TenYears.asp

[archangel]

Whites, just about invaded every country including this one they took from the natives. So I don't care what you think of me. Whites, over her are always tellign blacks in America to go back to Africa when they over trying to take it from Africans. Whites, shouldn't want to be in all that sun anyway,because it destroys their recessive skin.

Anyone who is white deserves to be Killed in South Africa?!!

That is a Racist statement if I have ever heard one :(

[trumansho]

Anyone who is white deserves to be Killed in South Africa?!!

That is a Racist statement if I have ever heard one :(Where do I say whites deserved to be killed? So you are putting words in my post now? I said whites don't have the right to invade other people land. Learn how to comprehend. Whites, have been spreading their influence,culture and supremecy all through out the world that's why so many people have a problem with blacks and we have self hating blacks.

[lumukanda]

I live in South Africa and its not the best place in the world to live...actually far from it.:(

Ten years after Apartheid (1994-2004): The Raw Facts

Here are the things you will never see in the major news media regarding post-apartheid South Africa:


# In 10 years 1+ million South Africans, mostly blacks, lost their jobs due to the ANC's creeping socialism.

# Unemployment is at a staggering 45%+ - much worse than under white rule & worse than the 30% unemployment in the USA during the Great Depression.

# 1 million whites stand to lose their jobs in the coming years to Affirmative Action programs.

# 1,450+ White commercial farmers have been murdered by black thugs and our food production is being threatened by "Land Reform".

# They say that by 2014, 30% of commercial farmland now owned by Whites will be owned by Blacks (though I think it will happen much sooner & on a much bigger scale).

# 115,000 land claims by Blacks have been processed so far - and millions of hectares of land have been handed over to them.

# There are farms in South Africa, which were prosperous when run by Whites, that were handed over to Blacks. These farms then collapsed after 2 years of black management and are now derelict.

# South Africa is the rape capital of the world... it is conservatively estimated that we have 50,000 rapes per year.

# 21,500 children were raped in 2000.

# 40% of rape survivors are under 18.

# 1,231 children under 5 were raped in 13 months by blacks believing in AIDS myths. Many babies who are raped die.

# South Africa is now an international drug-smuggling route, comparable to Colombia.

# We export cannabis grown overwhelmingly by Blacks.

# 150-200 policemen are shot dead annually by violent criminals.

# Our police have the highest suicide rate in the world.

# Our society is 7 times more violent (per capita) than the USA

# Crime is so high the government put a moratorium on the release of crime statistics for a year and fudged them ever since.

# The Democratic Alliance (conservatively) estimates there are 300,000 robberies per year

# South African prisons are often filled to capacity (170,000+) and then thousands are let go, sometimes without being charged.

# In January 2004, it was reported that some of the prisons are 300% over capacity.

# In March 2004, it was reported that the prison population was 180,000.

# Mandela's "Birthday Present" to the country (yes they used those words), was to release 9,000 criminals.

# Murderers have been "forgiven" by our Presidents, only to murder again.

# On 3rd March 2004, on SABC TV3 News it was announced that to "Celebrate Ten Years of Democracy" they might let thousands of prisoners go free.

# More prisons have been built after apartheid but even that is not enough to cope with the crime wave.

# More blacks are in our prisons after apartheid than before. (They no longer fear the Police).

# The ANC LOVES criminals. They gave them the vote! It was announced that over 100,000 prisoners would be registered & allowed to vote

# We had 10 years of peace, with no international sanctions and yet, the much-awaited boom never came along.

# Our socialist economy dribbles along. GDP growth is estimated at 1.3% per annum which compares weakly with (sometimes) double digit growth rates under white rule.

# In the Johannesburg (Gauteng) area, 80% of self-help schemes for Blacks have failed since 1994.

# Let there be no illusions where the ANC wants to take us. They support & give money to: Zimbabwe, Haiti & DRC (Zaire) who are ruled by socialist dictators who suppress even the Blacks!

# In the April 2004 election the ANC finally attained its goal of getting 66% vote. This means they can change the constitution at will and no other political party can stop them.

# This is what Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe was able to do before he took 95% of the land from 4,500 white farmers.

# Now that we are officially, and legally the latest One Party State in Africa, we will walk the path of others like Zimbabwe where eventually nobody, not even the Blacks, have any freedom any more...

# South Africa's economy, employment & crime rates were better when the world hated us.

Source:

http://www.africancrisis.org/Ph_TenYears.asp
all of those things are facts, but firstly, those muppets at africancrisis.org don't even for two seconds think that white people did anything wrong by treating blacks like animals for 300 years, so there's all my respect for them gone, and secondly, it's not black against white, it's the illusion given to us by illuminati rigged papers, and illuminati filled political parties, the crime thing in sa is classic P-R-S, how many times have you heard people say on tv or radio in south africa "they should bring in the army!", perfect, it's just what they want. i'm not saying you are, but people must start seeing through this shit, we get along a hell of a lot better here in sa than most of us think we do.

[synergy777]

luma, what you think about biko.

[lumukanda]

luma, what you think about biko.
i remember a few years back seeing an interview with him, and thinking to myself, if this guy had lived, how different would sa have been, the way he spoke, his obvious intelligence, man he could have changed this country, i for one thing am sure the armed struggle (where the anc decided to start using bombs to make their points) wouldn't have happened.
i also recently found out that he had no political affiliations (despite the fact the anc carries on like he was a member), and i think thats why he was killed, mandela, zuma, mbeki, all those guys are stooges imo, i don't biko was, and they knew that, and they had to shut him up.
i know it's hard to say sometimes, but i really think he was one of the good guys.

[eternal_spirit]

Anyone who is white deserves to be Killed in South Africa?!!

That is a Racist statement if I have ever heard one :(
.........

Theres no reasoning with this guy. I told him I'd been victim of black racists. And know and seen other whites with my own eyes that had also been subject to violent racist attacks ( like I was attacked more than once) for being white.

He said I hope they kick you're pinky white ass again and much more but you get the drift archangel. I doubt he's experienced any white on black racism against himself. He believes all the anti white pro black propaganda he reads off the Internet.

[foreverspirit]

I think it will be a grave mistake to for SA to attack or take land from the white farmers. That's what they did in zimbabwe and now that country is paying the price.

Its unbelievable that you know all these things are orchestrated from right on top and yet you still make the above statement? Is this not the way the story was created to unfold?

Lets digresss for a moment. Wasnt this the same act played out years ago? In another mans country to boot?!!

Is there any other logical way? Maybe for the whites to avoid the inevitible outcome of hate and save themselves by going elsewhere.

It takes someone to see the truth of the matter and stop the flow of the energy of hate, evil, illuminati, whatever. Especially when you realize that it may have started in your own yard!!:cool:

[archangel]

Whites, just about invaded every country including this one they took from the natives. So I don't care what you think of me. Whites, over her are always tellign blacks in America to go back to Africa when they over trying to take it from Africans. Whites, shouldn't want to be in all that sun anyway,because it destroys their recessive skin.


I asked you a series of questions and you didn't answer them. Instead you posted the above comment.

Your were implying...who cares about your concerns/questions. Whites have bullied the world through out history so who cares what happens to them now. White shouldn't be in Africa anyway because they have white skin and the sun is too hot

I guess your comment more so implies..."Who cares about white people. What ever harsh things come there way is deserved"

Just answer the the questions nextime and don't beat around the bush!! The above is what I take your comment to mean. If its not learn to be more direct with what you say and answer the questions you are asked instead of dancing around the topic.

[synergy777]

luma, the real die, the sell outs survive and become what they fought against. the liberator soon corrupted by power becomes the oppressor.

[foreverspirit]

and murder the white farmers for being on "their land" which was legally purchased by the white settlers.


Come on now. Wakey, wakey. Do you really think, now that we have been exposed to so many hidden facts and truths about history. That their ever was land, that was legally purchased by white settlers. They were always given acres of "their land"? No, stolen land. Illuminati stolen land. To fulfill illuminatis boring purposes.:cool:

[trumansho]

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Theres no reasoning with this guy. I told him I'd been victim of black racists. And know and seen other whites with my own eyes that had also been subject to violent racist attacks ( like I was attacked more than once) for being white.

He said I hope they kick you're pinky white ass again and much more but you get the drift archangel. I doubt he's experienced any white on black racism against himself. He believes all the anti white pro black propaganda he reads off the Internet.
Too bad you got beat up for being a racist cracker.

[trumansho]

I asked you a series of questions and you didn't answer them. Instead you posted the above comment.

Your were implying...who cares about your concerns/questions. Whites have bullied the world through out history so who cares what happens to them now. White shouldn't be in Africa anyway because they have white skin and the sun is too hot

I guess your comment more so implies..."Who cares about white people. What ever harsh things come there way is deserved"

Just answer the the questions nextime and don't beat around the bush!! The above is what I take your comment to mean. If its not learn to be more direct with what you say and answer the questions you are asked instead of dancing around the topic.
I did answer your question and you need to learn how to comprehend. Whites have a ego thinking that this whole world belong to them when they don't belong on this planet to begin with. And that's a fact the sun is here for people,plants and animals with hue.

[foreverspirit]

Then Blacks,Mexicans,and Orientals shouldn't be coming into white countries either then?!! If you agree on that than I respect your opinion. If not then you definetly have racial hatred for white people.

These South Africans were on this land Legally!!! they didn't come there to dominate and enslave people. :mad:

Im sure if we check it out. We will see. Blacks, Mexican and Orientals generally only left their countries for trade and to return home. Before destruction of the culture (foreign invasion) they were living in nature and opulence. Now they generally go to white countries due to economic slaveship. Of course when you check out history, as soon as white people entered these countries, there was nothing but destruction and boredom. The majority of foreigner want to get the hell out of these so called advanced civilisations ASAP and return home.

So before you start feeling yourself up too much. Remember it would seem to be, the story of opposites. Dont dig. Someone has to play the white mans role.

And, no. You have too much love for your skin color even at the expense of truth and justice. But hey, only you, are missing out from seeing many truths. :cool:

[eternal_spirit]

Too bad you got beat up for being a racist cracker.
.........

Do you have trouble reading a simple post?

It was black racists who picked on me for being white.
I could of gotten revenge. But why should I stoop to the level of a racist which I'm not.

[archangel]

Then Blacks,Mexicans,and Orientals shouldn't be coming into white countries either then?!!


YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

THE ABOVE QUOTE WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU AFTER YOU SAID WHITES SHOULD STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRY WHEN REFERRING TO THE SOUTH AFRICANS.

SO NOW YOU ARE SAYING WHITES DON'T BELONG OR HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET?!!:mad:

[foreverspirit]

YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

THE ABOVE QUOTE WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU AFTER YOU SAID WHITES SHOULD STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRY WHEN REFERRING TO THE SOUTH AFRICANS.

SO NOW YOU ARE SAYING WHITES DON'T BELONG OR HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET?!!:mad:


When referring to the South African whites. They, for safety of their physical well being, should realize they are somewhat pawns in the illuminati game, they are paying for the sins of their forefathers (as some would say) and should leave.

Would you rather be white and so called right and dead? Or white and alive somewhere on the planet where a great majority of other whites exist, alive and in secular privilege.?!!!

Relax take it easy. The illuminati Im sure are white. Their main focus is to keep the follow the light. Bright and White. They got your back man. Relax everythings going according to plan:cool:

[trumansho]

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Do you have trouble reading a simple post?

It was black racists who picked on me for being white.
I could of gotten revenge. But why should I stoop to the level of a racist which I'm not.I find it hard to believe,because all the shit you've been saying about black people. Remember blacks don't have the history of creating genocide against whites and slavery and dropping bombs on other countries and putting white people in oppression. Now your dumb ass going to argue with me and say something more stupid and redundant,because you can't handle the truth. YOu probably aggrievated those guys and that's why the whooped your ass. You got smart ass racist mouth and somebody probably need to hit you in it.

[trumansho]

YOU DIDN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION.

THE ABOVE QUOTE WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED YOU AFTER YOU SAID WHITES SHOULD STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES COUNTRY WHEN REFERRING TO THE SOUTH AFRICANS.

SO NOW YOU ARE SAYING WHITES DON'T BELONG OR HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST ANYWHERE ON THE PLANET?!!:mad:
techinally white people don't belong on this planet. When the sun gets really hot and wipe ya'll asses out. You'll know what I mean by the planet gets rid of all negative energy that corrupts the earth. And this is not to the white people who are good people and don't have the white supremecy attitude that the whole world belongs to them. When y'all only been on this planet for only 6000 yrs.

[eternal_spirit]

Relax take it easy. The illuminati Im sure are white. Their main focus is to keep the follow the light. Bright and White. They got your back man. Relax everythings going according to plan:cool:

...............

Who or what controls the Elite or illuminati as you call them....Icke wrote about something and I seen the same on the forum somewhere. The true power, those with the plan who control the Elite..... lies in China, Asia and Northern India. Some say they may not even be human.

Anyone clear this up? or heard/read anything like this......

[trumansho]

...............

Who or what controls the Elite or illuminati as you call them....Icke wrote about something and I seen the same on the forum somewhere. The true power, those with the plan who control the Elite..... lies in China, Asia and Northern India. Some say they may not even be human.

Anyone clear this up? or heard/read anything like this......
another excuse and denial about the things white people do. Most of the Elite is white they may have a few colored puppets,but the whole show/operation is ran by white jews.

[archangel]

you still didn't answer my question

and the actions taking place in the world contradict your claim.

[eternal_spirit]

I find it hard to believe,because all the shit you've been saying about black people. Remember blacks don't have the history of creating genocide against whites and slavery and dropping bombs on other countries and putting white people in oppression. Now your dumb ass going to argue with me and say something more stupid and redundant,because you can't handle the truth. YOu probably aggrievated those guys and that's why the whooped your ass. You got smart ass racist mouth and somebody probably need to hit you in it.

..................

Where have I posted anything bad about blacks do you have any evidence? I was walking along minding my own and was attacked and called racist names, it was two of them onto me.... one had a knife. I took a beating.
They tried to take my money but luckily I escaped, God knows what would of happened otherwise.

You are the racist not me and you keep proving this time and time again.

[trumansho]

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Where have I posted anything bad about blacks do you have any evidence? I was walking along minding my own and was attacked and called racist names, it was two of them onto me.... one had a knife. I took a beating.
They tried to take my money but luckily I escaped, God knows what would of happened otherwise.

You are the racist not me and you keep proving this time and time again.You said black didn't invent anything of worth and blacks came from caves and swinging in the jungle and whites created just about everything on this planet. Including the pyramids. When we were the ones who build the pyramids here and on Mars.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7JiVhKsW2nE



http://youtube.com/watch?v=d8w98J3mi54

[trumansho]

you still didn't answer my question

and the actions taking place in the world contradict your claim.And you didn't answer any of mines.

[archangel]

And you didn't answer any of mines.

What didn't I answer that you asked me?

[eternal_spirit]

You said black didn't invent anything of worth and blacks came from caves and swinging in the jungle and whites created just about everything on this planet. Including the pyramids. When we were the ones who build the pyramids here and on Mars.




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Stop trying to take my posts out of context. it wen't something like this as far as I can remember.

You said blackman taught the white man to walk on 2 legs after he's crawled out the caves. And that whites would kill blacks as often as they could when given the chance and we deserve to burn in the sun and called me all sorts to start with. Heres some examples....faggot, racist, small dicked, and that white women prefer blacks the usual crap.

I said....Whitemans modern day inventions and scientific knowledge is superior to that of the blacks which is true right?

I said the Egyptians where alleged to have sacraficed white people to their demon God Set, which means they wasn't as enlightened as they are made out to be in the History books. Not that they were not technically advanced of course they where.

Some say some Egyptians where white
also the pyramids serve no known purpose and they are no use to man nor beast.

Then we argued and called each other names and the thread got deleted. But you started with the racist name calling.

So before whiteman wen't to Africa, there where many dynasties and Empires, tribes who used to fight against each other. so get over the colour thing.

Know the history of Britain.....was invaded by many different peoples.

The Elite maybe traceable back to Babylon Sumer Egypt etc, that's where much of the dark magick rituals originate from.

So I could say they took over Britain long ago.

[trumansho]

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Stop trying to take my posts out of context. it wen't something like this as far as I can remember.

You said blackman taught the white man to walk on 2 legs after he's crawled out the caves. And that whites would kill blacks as often as they could when given the chance and we deserve to burn in the sun and called me all sorts to start with. Heres some examples....faggot, racist, small dicked, and that white women prefer blacks the usual crap.

I said....Whitemans modern day inventions and scientific knowledge is superior to that of the blacks which is true right?

I said the Egyptians where alleged to have sacraficed white people to their demon God Set, which means they wasn't as enlightened as they are made out to be in the History books. Not that they were not technically advanced of course they where.

Some say some Egyptians where white
also the pyramids serve no known purpose and they are no use to man nor beast.

Then we argued and called each other names and the thread got deleted. But you started with the racist name calling.

So before whiteman wen't to Africa, there where many dynasties and Empires, tribes who used to fight against each other. so get over the colour thing.

Know the history of Britain.....was invaded by many different peoples.

The Elite maybe traceable back to Babylon Sumer Egypt etc, that's where much of the dark magick rituals originate from.

So I could say they took over Britain long ago.
Aint nobody taking your post out of context. Those were your exact quotes. The black man did trained and civilize ya'll where do you think they got evolution from? It certainly wasn't for us. Why do you always see white men depicted as cave men? Please answer my question and this is not to insult you. Why do you think you always see whites as cave men in commercials,cartoons,tv shows ect? Dark magic,voodun,kabbalah was all apart of African science, until the white man stole it and used it for corruption.

[eternal_spirit]

Good luck to the white farmers. And I hope and wish for a peacful Africa one with equality for all colours.

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I'm out of here....

[trumansho]

Good luck to the white farmers. And I hope and wish for a peacful Africa one with equality for all colours.

.........
I'm out of here....

Aint nobody taking your post out of context. Those were your exact quotes. The black man did trained and civilize ya'll where do you think they got evolution from? It certainly wasn't for us. Why do you always see white men depicted as cave men? Please answer my question and this is not to insult you. Why do you think you always see whites as cave men in commercials,cartoons,tv shows ect? Dark magic,voodun,kabbalah was all apart of African science, until the white man stole it and used it for corruption.

[archangel]

those videos you posted are laughable.

That is the sole evidence that Black people created Egypt??? A couple pictures???

Well Based off of all the available information, Your theory doesn't hold much water.

So according to your video and your statements. Blacks were this super advanced race and civilization and then white men came out of their caves, they knew nothing, and then some stole all of the black mans science and knowledge and then suppressed the black people??

That doesn't make much sense and doesn't seem possible. I mean lets think about it. Can the Africans take the bones out of the nose, come over to America or Europe and steal all of the knowledge if they want to and supress all of the whites if they chose to? No its not possible. So if the Blacks were so advanced back then, how could some stupid white cave men over throw a super advanced negro society.

you video refers to white people as "CRACKERS" several times. Not to mention a plathora of spelling and gramatical errors. Great source of info there. It is clearly biased info.

Since you feel so comfortable calling white people "crackers" and "cancer" I think I am atleast entitled to refer to you video as "nigger bull shit"

[trumansho]

those videos you posted are laughable.

That is the sole evidence that Black people created Egypt??? A couple pictures???

Well Based off of all the available information, Your theory doesn't hold much water.

So according to your video and your statements. Blacks were this super advanced race and civilization and then white men came out of their caves, they knew nothing, and then some stole all of the black mans science and knowledge and then suppressed the black people??

That doesn't make much sense and doesn't seem possible. I mean lets think about it. Can the Africans take the bones out of the nose, come over to America and steal all of their knowledge if they want to? No its not possible. So if the Blacks were so advanced back then, how could some stupid white cave men over throw a super advanced negro society.

you video refers to white people as "CRACKERS" several times. Not to mention a plathora of spelling and gramatical errors. Great source of info there. It is clearly biased info.

Since you feel so comfortable calling white people "crackers" and "cancer" I think I am atleast entitled to refer to you video as "nigger bull shit"That's right come out for the real white trash that you are cave dweller. You are your nazi friend eternal don't have any proof that Egypt was a recessive white civilization. And when I asked him to answer me about why you always see the white man depicted as a cave man I had his ass backed into a corner which I'm about to do to your stupid ass as well. And I rather be a nigger than a recessive,mutant parasite cave beast.

[eternal_spirit]

That's right come out for the real white trash that you are cave dweller. You are your nazi friend eternal don't have any proof that Egypt was a recessive white civilization. And when I asked him to answer me about why you always see the white man depicted as a cave man I had his ass backed into a corner which I'm about to do to your stupid ass as well. And I rather be a nigger than a recessive,mutant parasite cave beast.
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Lmfao not worth replying too.

[archangel]

That's right come out for the real white trash that you are cave dweller. You are your nazi friend eternal don't have any proof that Egypt was a recessive white civilization. And when I asked him to answer me about why you always see the white man depicted as a cave man I had his ass backed into a corner which I'm about to do to your stupid ass as well. And I rather be a nigger than a recessive,mutant parasite cave beast.

i posted this on the other thread

Yes Egypt was one of the cradles of civilizaton but that doesn't mean it was created by blacks. Alot of the research shows that Egypt was created my the Phonecians (Nordic WHites). This is also what the Mystery schools teach. You speak of the Illuminati Jews are the evil ones who rule the world right? Where do you think the history of the Jews comes from? Egypt!! The original Zionist Jews were from Egypt. and thats where to story of moses and all that took places. All of the pharoahs back then attached MOSE to then end of their name.IE TUTMOSES. The symbol for the star of david dates back to Egypt. this is where the Royal European Bloodlines come from.

The sumerian tablets say that the Anunaki came here and created modern humans to be slaves to mine precious minerals. It says their first creation were the "black heads" in africa to be the first slave man.

If you have other evidence I'd be happy to look at it.

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[trumansho]

i posted this on the other thread

Yes Egypt was one of the cradles of civilizaton but that doesn't mean it was created by blacks. Alot of the research shows that Egypt was created my the Phonecians (Nordic WHites). This is also what the Mystery schools teach. You speak of the Illuminati Jews are the evil ones who rule the world right? Where do you think the history of the Jews comes from? Egypt!! The original Zionist Jews were from Egypt. and thats where to story of moses and all that took places. All of the pharoahs back then attached MOSE to then end of their name.IE TUTMOSES. The symbol for the star of david dates back to Egypt. this is where the Royal European Bloodlines come from.

The sumerian tablets say that the Anunaki came here and created modern humans to be slaves to mine precious minerals. It says their first creation were the "black heads" in africa to be the first slave man.

If you have other evidence I'd be happy to look at it.

-------------That shit is so funny it's ridiculous and you and eternal actually believe that utter garbage. If the white race belong on this planet ya'll wouldn't been the minority in the world to begin with,but keep on think that whites started everything and are superior if that makes you happy about having pale,recessive skin.

[archangel]

That shit is so funny it's ridiculous and you and eternal actually believe that utter garbage. If the white race belong on this planet ya'll wouldn't been the minority in the world to begin with,but keep on think that whites started everything and are superior if that makes you happy about having pale,recessive skin.

:confused::confused::confused:

what is funny?
I thought we were talking about history here?
where Jews originate from, etc??

I'm not talking about racial supremicy I'm just talking about history.

You are basing an entire theory on a couple wall painting where the people appear to look black and developing a whole theory off of that? I think that is funny. and neglect all other evidence that contradicts your theory.

[trumansho]

:confused::confused::confused:

what is funny?
I thought we were talking about history here?
where Jews originate from, etc??

I'm not talking about racial supremicy I'm just talking about history.

You are basing an entire theory on a couple wall painting where the people appear to look black and developing a whole theory off of that? I think that is funny. and neglect all other evidence that contradicts your theory.No, this is funny cracker.


http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/125/whitemanoo2.jpg

[archangel]

thats a funny picture. I guess that cartoon pic proves everything:D

is this what the original egyptians looked like? :)

http://www.nukeisrael.com/New%20images/EBONY_GODDESS.jpg

[eternal_spirit]

Why do you always see white men depicted as cave men? Please answer my question and this is not to insult you. Why do you think you always see whites as cave men in commercials,cartoons,tv shows ect? Dark magic,voodun,kabbalah was all apart of African science, until the white man stole it and used it for corruption.

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Because if they portrayed blacks as cavemen you'd have blacks complaining and shouting racism. Besides who makes the cartoons, commercials etc probably whites
who can laugh at themselves.

Voodon, voodoo what ever you wan't to call it... is a creation of European and African magic combined by the peoples of the Carribean islands like Tahiti. And how do you know whites didn't have their own system of magic long before blacks. kabbalah sucks ass, that's one of the origins of Satanism and black magick.

[synergy777]

on the race thread i explained everything political. on the nubia thread again i showed the origins. waste of time, phillistines.

carry on.

[trumansho]

thats a funny picture. I guess that cartoon pic proves everything:D

is this what the original egyptians looked like? :)

http://www.nukeisrael.com/New%20images/EBONY_GODDESS.jpg

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/9250/sweehear1ob3.jpg




http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/697/caveman3yg1.jpg





http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/7332/caveman4ei8.jpg




http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/4953/cavepeoplejl8.jpg





is that better white trash?

[pigpot]

There needs to be a lot of growing up out there. There is no black and white because it's a matrix.

You've got the whites on one side with an out stretched arm and open hand yelling supremacy and the blacks on the the other with clenched fist shouting black power.

Give it up and and grow up, for whatever you believe there'll be someone who believes otherwise.

Answer don't believe!!!!!!!

[megafish33]

Jesus H. Christ. How enlightened are you guys? "nigger" "cracker" "recessive skin" "mars" etc. lol

Let it go guys, it's just skin color. Whites do not have to "pay for" anything their ancestors did 300 years ago... it's just a consequence of life. There are different "whites" too, not all enslaved blacks. There were blacks that enslaved their own people and sold them. White or black, they all lived in caves and couldn't distinguish "white" from "black" because they had extra fur.

Some of you guys are such racists, please get some help, it won't do you any good down the road.

[trumansho]

Jesus H. Christ. How enlightened are you guys? "nigger" "cracker" "recessive skin" "mars" etc. lol

Let it go guys, it's just skin color. Whites do not have to "pay for" anything their ancestors did 300 years ago... it's just a consequence of life. There are different "whites" too, not all enslaved blacks. There were blacks that enslaved their own people and sold them. White or black, they all lived in caves and couldn't distinguish "white" from "black" because they had extra fur.

Some of you guys are such racists, please get some help, it won't do you any good down the road.
Please--->

[eternal_spirit]

There you again megafish jumping to conclusions. Show me any racist comments I've made on this thread?

[eternal_spirit]

Please--->
..............:confused:

[megafish33]

Please--->

Please... get some help?

[archangel]

Please... get some help?

I think what Eternal SPirit is trying to say is that Trumansho was the one who started this argument with his Anti-White, White hatred messages. He considers whites the scum,cancer, and plague of the earth.

No one was every expressing Racial Supremicy in this thread. Not even Truman.

He just appears to really have a hatred for white people in general.

Eternal Spirit probably just found in strange that the person who was causes all the uproar is now trying to be a diplomat of peace when getting called on his shananagins.

[megafish33]

I think what Eternal SPirit is trying to say is that Trumansho was the one who started this argument with his Anti-White, White hatred messages. He considers whites the scum,cancer, and plague of the earth.

No one was every expressing Racial Supremicy in this thread. Not even Truman.

He just appears to really have a hatred for white people in general.

Eternal Spirit probably just found in strange that the person who was causes all the uproar is now trying to be a diplomat of peace when getting called on his shananagins.

Yeah, I read the whole thread. Sorry my definitions of racism maybe different. Expressing hatred for a peoples in general is racist to me. To me it's a question of why hating? Supremacy ideals or not. The idea, the meme, of racism, is the cancer of the planet, not white people.

[eternal_spirit]

This is the irony I get called a racist which I'm not..... and I don't think Archangel is either.
Anyone with a little intelligence can see this as the truth.


Anyway..... :) what a crazy thread in places, but I'd say much truth has also been revealed.

[eternal_spirit]

Yeah, I read the whole thread. Sorry my definitions of racism maybe different. Expressing hatred for a peoples in general is racist to me. To me it's a question of why hating? Supremacy ideals or not. The idea, the meme, of racism, is the cancer of the planet, not white people.
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Fair enough. Just hope you can stick by what you say if you become a victim of violent racists out there in the real word that's the true test.

[megafish33]

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Fair enough. Just hope you can stick by what you say if you become a victim of violent racists out there in the real word that's the true test.

I can. I've been a victim of violent acts too, though probably nothing unheard of in this day and age. It was hard at times but I kept telling myself, if I start to think in that direction I'll infect myself with what I'm trying to prevent. Growing up, a had a chance to go to a really nice private school (but mostly crappy public ones) where the majority of students were WASP kids. The amount of racism toward the black students was so shocking to me. The same thing happened when they found out I was a Jew. This wasn't the first time I've seen racism, nor was it the worst I've seen, but I bring it up because this is when I started to feel hatred toward my white classmates. I finally woke up, thankfully. Hatred toward others, racist or not, is totally opposite of love, and it eats up your soul from the inside out. Just wish others didn't have to suffer, on both ends...

[pigpot]

What the hell's trumansho on about with his childish, please.......... I'm new to the thread and the forum in general but having looked at tumansho's posts I find no contribution of any note that is worth reading.

It's obviously apparent that trumansho hasn't read any of the books written by Icke and like minded authors and if he has then I would say that he has not understood the meanings behind them.

If it wasn't for the fact of free speech I'd close trumansho off and not reply to his posts until he grows up a little.

Now maybe here's a thought, maybe trumansho's really a white supremacist himself and makes out he's a black guy over the net and tries in his own special way to wind up the white guys even more.

What a great little white guy you are trumansho. You ain't black, you're a white guy trying to stir up the crap.

What an idiot, I'm now trying to picture little truman with a small black moustache and a swastika waving behind him.

pigpot

[eternal_spirit]

Pigpot a thread was deleting because of the racist crap he was spouting about whites the other night and I got involved in an argument with him, because I wasn't having a bag of shite like him blaming everything on the white man.

BTW he called Icke a white supremracist.

If this trumansho character was a white racist pretending to be black on the forum he's failed miserably..his comments don't make me wan't to go out into the real world and mistreat blacks. :) I have come across blacks like him before online and in real life.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=7662&dateline=1190088340&type=profile

this is his pic or so he claims....

[megafish33]

BTW he called Icke a white supremracist.


Jeez... Icke can change of course, he's human, but currently... it seems like he's the most non racist person to hold the spot light in a long time.

How can he even be a white supremacist when he said the aliens/reptiles used mostly the white race to take over the world? lol Even then(!), he points out and says not to let our anger dwell with those entities in general, as it's only a small minority of those who are, theoretically, "running the show."

[eternal_spirit]

Jeez... Icke can change of course, he's human, but currently... it seems like he's the most non racist person to hold the spot light in a long time.

How can he even be a white supremacist when he said the aliens/reptiles used mostly the white race to take over the world? lol Even then(!), he points out and says not to let our anger dwell with those entities in general, as it's only a small minority of those who are, theoretically, "running the show."
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I agree that's Exactly right about Icke . He and others say not all the reps are bad. Like you said in you're other post we need to let the anger go or risk turning into one of the bad guys ourselves.

[pigpot]

Hi guys,

I understand entirely eternal spirit how you feel about trumansho having a go at "whites" in general but remember the best way to stop the fire is to take away its fuel.

Same way with trumansho, ignore the childish rants, nobody replies to his infantile "Black supremacist" crap and he will go away and even if he doesn't nobody reads his crap or replies to his posts.

We are his fuel, let's leave Trumansho the little White Supremacist dressed up as a black guy alone and start treating one another with respect.

Cheers,

pigpot

[megafish33]

...and start treating one another with respect.

Cheers,

pigpot

Amen!

[foreverspirit]

...............

Who or what controls the Elite or illuminati as you call them....Icke wrote about something and I seen the same on the forum somewhere. The true power, those with the plan who control the Elite..... lies in China, Asia and Northern India. Some say they may not even be human.

Anyone clear this up? or heard/read anything like this......


No one knows at this moment. But they exist. The closest Ive come so far has been the house of Germany.:cool:

[archangel]

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m214/AndreConan/mypic90107012.jpg

[december]

Archangel, take a look what's going on these days...
A guy on the stage is singing - KILL ALL THE WHITE MEN...

NoFx-kill all the white man - YouTube

:eek:

White farmers under siege in Zimbabwe
15 August, 2002

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38195000/jpg/_38195857_mugabe150afp.jpg

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38197000/jpg/_38197732_staying300ap.jpg

Tension is mounting in Zimbabwe as pro-government militants attempt to force defiant farmers to leave their land.

An estimated 2,900 white farmers should have left their houses by midnight last Thursday, according to a recently passed law.

READ MORE -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2192947.stm

[foreverspirit]

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Is it really necessary to perpetuate this sort of sadness, when this forum I think may have started, from the premise of it being a meeting place, for one would hope, informed and hopeful beings?:cool: