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oioioi

10-01-2010, 12:05 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982345.ece

dreamweaver

10-01-2010, 12:14 PM

I think The Times is wrong to see it as a "crisis" for the BNP.

Jailing Nick Griffin at the time of an election would be a massive publicity coup for him. I bet it would gain him more votes.

neutrino

10-01-2010, 12:27 PM

Jailing him would be going OVERBOARD. :rolleyes:

the nine

10-01-2010, 01:26 PM

Jailing him would be going OVERBOARD. :rolleyes:

if they jail him, would this mean he really is against the NWO and not really a tool being use by them as has been stated on this forum, over and over again.?

gremlin

10-01-2010, 01:33 PM

what a bunch if fascist's. you can work out who i am talking about.

seanx

10-01-2010, 01:41 PM

Nine wrote:

if they jail him, would this mean he really is against the NWO and not really a tool being use by them as has been stated on this forum, over and over again.?

it has only been stated over and over again by you BNP mouthpieces who
operate on this forum.

The rest of us see a sick racist party who want freedom and liberty for
everyone once they are not black, asian, or any colour that is not
white and British.

That's their version of the new world order. Not much difference from the
elite's version of their new world order

the nine

10-01-2010, 01:51 PM

Nine wrote:

it has only been stated over and over again by you BNP mouthpieces who
operate on this forum.

The rest of us see a sick racist party who want freedom and liberty for
everyone once they are not black, asian, or any colour that is not
white and British.

That's their version of the new world order. Not much difference from the
elite's version of their new world order

I have never said they are part of the NWO!!

also,I am not a BNP mouthpeice..
but I do think they oppose the NWO and secret societies..
if you read all my past posts on the issue you will see this..

the lib/lab/con bullshit will only take us further into their plans.

you just jump on the race issue as a means to fight for the PTB..
he has a lot of other issues which are entirely valid..but no other parties address..

why are you being so aggressive?

meksar

10-01-2010, 03:17 PM

Nick Griffin is likely a Crypto Jew and comes from a family with masonic ties, the same people who exploited the 3rd world nations and then ushered in mass immigration, now want a race war/riot as the Islamic fundamentalists are funded by the same group.

drhemp

10-01-2010, 04:45 PM

Why would any black or Asian person want to join the vile racists that are the BNP?

dreamweaver

10-01-2010, 04:46 PM

Why would any black or Asian person want to join the vile racists that are the BNP?

Divide and rule. The BNP have made a lot of overtures to the Sikh community in particular, in order to exploit their tensions with Muslims.

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 04:47 PM

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 04:54 PM

so they want to jail him because of the 'white only' membership policy, but we have a black police assosiation, MOBO's (music of black origin), indian focused BBC radio etc etc etc
reverse racism gone mad.
image the outcry from the handwringing leftie pinko liberals if we had a white police assosiation, music of white origin awards etc yet the PC brigade are happy to have black versions......

who cares what colour you are??

the black police assosiation should be just as illegal and abhorrant as the KKK.

this keeps being brought up, the organizations you mention are not political party's trying to gaining power and control of local and national government.

This just the type of racist dis-info that is the problem, the main reason you didn't have white police association, music of white origin awards etc is because the mainstream was white so well represented.

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 05:01 PM

This just the type of racist dis-info that is the problem

i think you'll find yours is the problem racist dis-info.
fact. there is a black police assosiation, but not a white one, (or brown, yellow or even grey!).
there are MOBO's but no MOWO's.
yey this isn't seen as racism. if it was the other way round it would be.
colour should be irrelevant. pro black should be just as frowned on as anti black. pro black societies are just as wrong as anti black ones. it just perpetuates racism.

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 05:06 PM

i think you'll find yours is the problem racist dis-info.
fact. there is a black police assosiation, but not a white one, (or brown, yellow or even grey!).
there are MOBO's but no MOWO's.
yey this isn't seen as racism. if it was the other way round it would be.
colour should be irrelevant. pro black should be just as frowned on as anti black. pro black societies are just as wrong as anti black ones. it just perpetuates racism.

they are not political party's trying to get voted into government so its irrelevant to topic of the BNP that are a political party trying to get voted into government!

yes its relevant to the race issue, but according to many of you here the BNP are not a racially motivated party are they?

Don't worry just keep ignoring what I'm saying because it doesn't fit with you racist bullshit.

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 05:10 PM

they are not political party's trying to get voted into government so its irrelevant to topic of the BNP that are a political party trying to get voted into government!

yes its relevant to the race issue, but according to many of you here the BNP are not a racially motivated party are they?

Don't worry just keep ignoring what I'm saying because it doesn't fit with you racist bullshit.

so don't vote for them if you don't agree with them!!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
oppressing political parties because you don't agree with them is a very slippery slope....

racist bullshit?? i'm saying colour is irrelevant but you're supporting pro-black, (by definition anti white).... remind me again who's spouting racist bullshit??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 05:17 PM

so don't vote for them if you don't agree with them!!!!!:rolleyes::rolleyes:
oppressing political parties because you don't agree with them is a very slippery slope....

racist bullshit?? i'm saying colour is irrelevant but you're supporting pro-black, (by definition anti white).... remind me again who's spouting racist bullshit??:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I am not supporting them, please show me where? I am stating that it isn't the same as they are not seeking to run local and national government or form policy,

so the types of organization are not connected expect by the racial issue, but then many who support the BNP as you seem to try to say the BNP are not racially motivated.

northernmonkey

10-01-2010, 05:21 PM

I thought the BNP allow anyone to join now, I'm sure I read that some sikh guy become recently became the first ethnic minority member, so why would Griffin face jail?:confused:

cpfc12

10-01-2010, 05:26 PM

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 05:30 PM

I am not supporting them, please show me where? I am stating that it isn't the same as they are not seeking to run local and national government or form policy,

so the types of organization are not connected expect by the racial issue, but then many who support the BNP as you seem to try to say the BNP are not racially motivated.

same answer. if you don't agree with their policies, don't vote for them in local or national gvmt. where do i "seem to try to say" that the bnp are not racially motivated? have you read the bnp manifesto? i have.
micheal portillo, the well know gay jewish tory whet said on radio 4 that "there is no longer any racism in the bnp manifesto". hardly a bnp supporter, is he. i know he said it because i was listening to the programme he said it on.

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 05:37 PM

same answer. if you don't agree with their policies, don't vote for them in local or national gvmt. where do i "seem to try to say" that the bnp are not racially motivated? have you read the bnp manifesto? i have.
micheal portillo, the well know gay jewish tory whet said on radio 4 that "there is no longer any racism in the bnp manifesto". hardly a bnp supporter, is he. i know he said it because i was listening to the programme he said it on.

this is what i said "but then many who support the BNP as you seem to try to say the BNP are not racially motivated."

just because they have taken color out of there manifesto doesn't mean they are not a racially motivated by race, in my estimation they have been forced to do this to gain power and get are around race laws.

You still haven't refuted my main points.

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 05:44 PM

"but then many who support the BNP as you
where did i say i was a bnp supporter? i said i'd read the manifesto, that's all.
i've also read the bible, but i'm not a christian.

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 05:50 PM

where did i say i was a bnp supporter? i said i'd read the manifesto, that's all.
i've also read the bible, but i'm not a christian.

I think you need to read my post again and comprehend the words properly, I never said you were, just that you seem to be, that's not definitive is it now? so a simple rebuttal would have done.

All you have done is start an argument instead of refuting my main points that your examples are not the same as the BNP as they are not political party's seeking governmental power.

oioioi

10-01-2010, 05:52 PM

i said i'd read the manifesto, that's all.

What did you make of it?

oioioi

10-01-2010, 05:53 PM

See if you can reply without using the phrase "valid points"

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 05:55 PM

What did you make of it?
not what i was expecting, or had been lead to believe, by the mainstream leftie media.

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 05:55 PM

See if you can reply without using the phrase "valid points"
how was that?;):p:D

oioioi

10-01-2010, 05:57 PM

not what i was expecting, or had been lead to believe, by the mainstream leftie media.

You mean they didn't say "send 'em back"?

Funny that, all the other political parties are good to their word

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 06:27 PM

You mean they didn't say "send 'em back"?
does actually, but with a golden handshake. you obviously haven't read it....

oioioi

10-01-2010, 06:46 PM

does actually, but with a golden handshake. you obviously haven't read it....

I thought they'd spun it to 'repatriate'. See, I have seen it

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 06:48 PM

;)

oioioi

10-01-2010, 06:53 PM

Do you expect them to keep their manifesto 'promises' if elected?

richardlism

10-01-2010, 06:56 PM

The BNP are being handled terribly by the 'powers that be'. Did they not learn from Question Time that if you make a martyr out of someone and flog them publically it only serves their purposes.

History lessons would also suggest that putting a 'facist' leader behind bars does not make it go away. This is wrong, and I'm not even considering the BNP's political ideology.

Public support will grow for the BNP.

cpfc12

10-01-2010, 06:59 PM

nofuture

10-01-2010, 07:01 PM

Just like Adolf!

richardlism

10-01-2010, 07:01 PM

:rolleyes:

Predictable answer 2010 : The Icke Forum,

oioioi

10-01-2010, 07:02 PM

Unless thats what the powers at be want

I assumed that was a given.

cstewart1987

10-01-2010, 07:02 PM

if they jail him, would this mean he really is against the NWO and not really a tool being use by them as has been stated on this forum, over and over again.?

Dont mean to racist here, but ive been scared about this so called influx of non whites into white countries.

It seems the blacks or whatever have some predesigned mental problems deeming all whites to be evil and capable of doing reall bad things, which they are, arent we all capable of it.

But ive a feeling there is going to be some sort of reason for the breakng of boarders, the non-whites i believe are going to try and put the whites as the slaves, and probably destroy half to most of them.

this is a scared rambling but, its not racism.

I hate all people equally.

themime

10-01-2010, 07:03 PM

Just like Adolf!

Exactly, it hardly killed off his career.

oioioi

10-01-2010, 07:04 PM

Dont mean to racist here, but ive been scared about this so called influx of non whites into white countries.

It seems the blacks or whatever have some predesigned mental problems deeming all whites to be evil and capable of doing reall bad things, which they are, arent we all capable of it.

But ive a feeling there is going to be some sort of reason for the breakng of boarders, the non-whites i believe are going to try and put the whites as the slaves, and probably destroy half to most of them.

this is a scared rambling but, its not racism.

I hate all people equally.

Yes it is.

john white

10-01-2010, 07:06 PM

if they jail him, would this mean he really is against the NWO and not really a tool being use by them as has been stated on this forum, over and over again.?

Absolutely. If the MSM didnt want to raise Griffen's profile they simply wouldnt cover this story. He is "one of them" and he is there to control those ruled by passion and prejudices, to use them as pawns to further the control

clachan

10-01-2010, 07:11 PM

oioioi

10-01-2010, 07:12 PM

100% right.

Which political party is pro-black?

clachan

10-01-2010, 07:14 PM

Which political party is pro-black?

All of the main 3.

eternal_spirit

10-01-2010, 07:22 PM

All of the main 3.
And anti white (indigenous)

clachan

10-01-2010, 07:26 PM

And anti white (indigenous)

I dont know if i would go that far,but sometimes i wonder.

tb303

10-01-2010, 07:29 PM

Griffin is controlled oppostion, whether he knows it or not. I've not researched his background, but he's probably under mind control.

If TPTB didn't want him where he is, he simply wouldn't be there.

Any prison sentence will inflame those caught in the right-wing paradigm and start conflict with the left and ethnic minorites.

All part of the plan.

And besides, we're in The United States of Europe now in case anyone hadn't noticed, so Griffin, Brown's leadership challenge and Super Cameron coming to the rescue are all an irrelevant puppet show.

seanx

10-01-2010, 08:35 PM

Nine wrote:

I have never said they are part of the NWO!!

also,I am not a BNP mouthpeice..
but I do think they oppose the NWO and secret societies..

Well, let's celebrate! What great news.

Well, its great news if you are white anglo-saxon- but then what
will happen when they start to implement their white anglo-sazon
only new World order in your Britain.

Do you think your fellow Black-Britions, or Asian Britions
will be celebrating?

Read the threads on this BNP on this forum where their 'consitution;
and actions plans have been revealed ..i.e their REAL PLANS

the lib/lab/con bullshit will only take us further into their plans.

And the BNP is part of their controlled opposition.

Why do you think they have a secret homosexual - mr Griffins as leader
( though recently one of his boyfriends exposed him)

So maybe the powers that be will dump him now..now that their
inside hold on him has been exposed .

you just jump on the race issue as a means to fight for the PTB..
he has a lot of other issues which are entirely valid..but no other parties address..

But if a party HAS NO RESPECT OR VALUE for EVERY ONE OF its citizen
- how that hell can you trust them?

Or do you believe you have more valve and importaNCE than your
fellow black citizens, for example ??

why are you being so aggressive?

Read the posts on the BNP hERE.

As an irish person living in London, I have had direct EXPERIENCE of
your bnp?

A bottle across the face when your bnp mob decided to attack an
Irish pub in london who were watching a world cup match on the
Holloway Rd.

I know the REAL face of the BNP. It is stitched across against the
side of my face - as a reminder.

Wake up to these facists before they fool you and gain a foothold
in your cities and countries.

seanx

10-01-2010, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by eternal wheel
i think you'll find yours is the problem racist dis-info.
fact. there is a black police assosiation, but not a white one, (or brown, yellow or even grey!).
there are MOBO's but no MOWO's.
yey this isn't seen as racism. if it was the other way round it would be.
colour should be irrelevant. pro black should be just as frowned on as anti black. pro black societies are just as wrong as anti black ones. it just perpetuates racism.

What a load of bollocks!

I couldn't care less if there are all -black police assosiations

I couldn't care less if there are all -white police assosiations. I
couldn't care less if there are all -lesbain chinese assosiations.

Everyone should be able to set up any private group or
or assosiation they want.

But as Dantesinferno has been trying to point out I would have an objection
if these groups decided to gain political power and IMPOSE their
views on others.

That why I think these extreme Muslims nutters who want to
impose Muslim rule on others in UK are as sick and as evil their
BNP brothers.

ps3andhdtv

10-01-2010, 08:47 PM

zarah

10-01-2010, 08:49 PM

Dont mean to racist here, but ive been scared about this so called influx of non whites into white countries.

It seems the blacks or whatever have some predesigned mental problems deeming all whites to be evil and capable of doing reall bad things, which they are, arent we all capable of it.
But ive a feeling there is going to be some sort of reason for the breakng of boarders, the non-whites i believe are going to try and put the whites as the slaves, and probably destroy half to most of them.

this is a scared rambling but, its not racism.

I hate all people equally.

Aren't you guilty of the very thing you projected about non-white people's mentality?

richardlism

10-01-2010, 09:01 PM

Half of the time this place feels like a battleground for those who deem themselves the most enlightened.

cstewart1987

10-01-2010, 09:02 PM

Nine wrote:

Well, let's celebrate! What great news.

Well, its great news if you are white anglo-saxon- but then what
will happen when they start to implement their white anglo-sazon
only new World order in your Britain.

Do you think your fellow Black-Britions, or Asian Britions
will be celebrating?

Read the threads on this BNP on this forum where their 'consitution;
and actions plans have been revealed ..i.e their REAL PLANS

And the BNP is part of their controlled opposition.

Why do you think they have a secret homosexual - mr Griffins as leader
( though recently one of his boyfriends exposed him)

So maybe the powers that be will dump him now..now that their
inside hold on him has been exposed .

But if a party HAS NO RESPECT OR VALUE for EVERY ONE OF its citizen
- how that hell can you trust them?

Or do you believe you have more valve and importaNCE than your
fellow black citizens, for example ??

Read the posts on the BNP hERE.

As an irish person living in London, I have had direct EXPERIENCE of
your bnp?

A bottle across the face when your bnp mob decided to attack an
Irish pub in london who were watching a world cup match on the
Holloway Rd.

I know the REAL face of the BNP. It is stitched across against the
side of my face - as a reminder.

Wake up to these facists before they fool you and gain a foothold
in your cities and countries.

Great post SeanX/..

If only half of the people where as intelligent as you whed not be arguing about ' The Script' or 'The Circus'

cstewart1987

10-01-2010, 09:05 PM

Half of the time this place feels like a battleground for those who deem themselves the most enlightened.

Hmmm, have YOU noticed.

Notice:
Ever wonder why people type a lot of nonsense into their Bebo,FB, DI Forum?
Ever notice it's all lies, crap and spam?
Ever wonder what people will do with the information you provide on Bebo,FB, Here?
Ever sit back and see that nearly everyone online boast about themselves and have ego-manic battles with eachother?

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 09:25 PM

It seems the blacks or whatever have some predesigned mental problems deeming all whites to be evil and capable of doing reall bad things, which they are, arent we all capable of it.

How can you statement not be deemed racist?

Your basically saying anyone not white has a mental problem and is anti-white, now before you go on another rant these are your words I'm para-phrasing.

cstewart1987

10-01-2010, 09:38 PM

How can you statement not be deemed racist?

Your basically saying anyone not white has a mental problem and is anti-white, now before you go on another rant these are your words I'm para-phrasing.

As it appears in the history books, of which are pushed down people's throats.

the white race subjugated and deprived all other races through the course of history.

i am referring to this mental disposition that a person may percieve, as in "them basterding english" considering there has not been any strife among the irish and the english from the 18th century, other than the usual subversion and cointell operations, this is racism too. But you may not believe it is.

The original point i was making is that, minds are being used and fought against minds, you are not capable of understanding anything as relevant as this, not doubt you haven't even read this thread.
Ive a feel the total sweep of other races into this country is for one thing, the furtherance of the nwo..

I think the non-whites will be pitted against the whites and will be coerced into more hatred toward them/ each other. Turning them into a type of NWO enforcer thats already well established in every part of the west, again i dont see where my comment was racist, all i am doing is talking about life.

Some of you need to reflect on whats going wrong in your own lives, then worry about calling people names like racist,

I agree with slander and in my previous posts i always thought slagging people was funny, but seeing that its disrespectful, i'm going to stop it.

Your all missing the pioint, AS USUAL, you are all missing the point, last one ever i swwear, Your all a bunch of insolent swine's.

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 09:56 PM

As it appears in the history books, of which are pushed down people's throats.

the white race subjugated and deprived all other races through the course of history.

i am referring to this mental disposition that a person may percieve, as in "them basterding english" considering there has not been any strife among the irish and the english from the 18th century, other than the usual subversion and cointell operations, this is racism too. But you may not believe it is.

The original point i was making is that, minds are being used and fought against minds, you are not capable of understanding anything as relevant as this, not doubt you haven't even read this thread.
Ive a feel the total sweep of other races into this country is for one thing, the furtherance of the nwo..

I think the non-whites will be pitted against the whites and will be coerced into more hatred toward them/ each other. Turning them into a type of NWO enforcer thats already well established in every part of the west, again i dont see where my comment was racist, all i am doing is talking about life.

Some of you need to reflect on whats going wrong in your own lives, then worry about calling people names like racist,

I agree with slander and in my previous posts i always thought slagging people was funny, but seeing that its disrespectful, i'm going to stop it.

Your all missing the pioint, AS USUAL, you are all missing the point, last one ever i swwear, Your all a bunch of insolent swine's.

Yes of course, you must be the only one capable of understanding anything this relevant.

I bow before your majestic understanding!

analog

10-01-2010, 10:03 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982345.ece

hmm, I am not a BNP supporter but I dont think the Government should be able to jail someone just becuese they only wants "Whites" in their Organisation.

Does the new Law mean that the "Black Police Federation" has to allow Whites in?.

cstewart1987

10-01-2010, 10:04 PM

Yes of course, you must be the only one capable of understanding anything this relevant.

I bow before your majestic understanding!

Sarcasm proves im right and you havent the pious ability to question it, my understanding is jsut that, mine.

People here behave like gestapo, SS, be ashamed of yourselves for a second, you do know that were all on the same proletariat team here, well most of us.

dantesinferno

10-01-2010, 10:11 PM

Sarcasm proves im right and you havent the pious ability to question it, my understanding is jsut that, mine.

People here behave like gestapo, SS, be ashamed of yourselves for a second, you do know that were all on the same proletariat team here, well most of us.

you make a blatantly racist statement then agree with and praise a poster that is vehemently anti-racist, your all over the place,

pious ability? whats that then? you do know what the word pious generally means? trying to be clever with your post construction doesn't make you right.

cstewart1987

10-01-2010, 10:20 PM

you make a blatantly racist statement then agree with and praise a poster that is vehemently anti-racist, your all over the place,

pious ability? whats that then? you do know what the word pious generally means? trying to be clever with your post construction doesn't make you right.

You haven't the ability to set your pontifical dogmatic untrue grievance aside and listen to waht i am saying, it is all religious, as in its all mind games, how i construct my post is irellevant to what i say, just like the gestapo, you can tear my post to sheds make from it what you want, but i am not racist, and EVEN QUOTED that YES THIS COMENT MAY SEEM RACIST BUT IT IS NOT.

Again i must state that words restrict people, i do apologise for not having the great articulation and vocabulary that you so wholeheartedly claim to posses, but one thing is true i can make my summary of what i see going on around me, read the signs of the times mate.

eternal wheel

10-01-2010, 11:16 PM

What a load of bollocks!
says you......
your opinion more valid than any other then?

I couldn't care less if there are all -black police assosiations

I couldn't care less if there are all -white police assosiations. I
couldn't care less if there are all -lesbain chinese assosiations.

Everyone should be able to set up any private group or
or assosiation they want.
my point exactly. lets try setting up an all-white police assosiation and see how far we get....:rolleyes:

But as Dantesinferno has been trying to point out I would have an objection
if these groups decided to gain political power and IMPOSE their
views on others.
they can only gain political power if they are voted in. don't vote for them, if they still get into power then you're in a minority and have to accept the will of the majority, that's democracy....
so 'new labour' allowing a black police assosiation, but not a white one is not them imposing their views on others??

tb303

11-01-2010, 12:03 AM

they can only gain political power if they are voted in. don't vote for them

http://rlv.zcache.com/if_voting_changed_anything_it_would_be_illegal_tsh irt-p235264724887206716q6wh_400.jpg

seanx

11-01-2010, 12:52 AM

eternal wheel wrote:

they can only gain political power if they are voted in. don't vote for them, if they still get into power then you're in a minority and have to accept the will of the majority, that's democracy....

I'll have to write this s...l..o..w....l...y becuase you don't seem to
get it.

The BNP is A POLITICAL PARTY TRYING TO GAIN POWER
IN ORDER TO CREATE THE LAWS OF YOUR COUNTRY.

Who gives a fuck about these black police assosiations ?

Everybody should have the right in a free society to form their
own assosiations ONCE they are not trying to IMPOSE their BELIFS
on us ?

Come on. Is that the best argument you can put forword for your
racist BNP. The existence of some black police assosiation!!

I notice you DELETED where I said that if Muslims tried to do the
same thing as the bnp - impose their SICK views on us- they would
be just as bad.

In fact the BNP and these extreme Muslims are one AND THE SAME.

They both operate from a racist elitist perspective.

bornfree

11-01-2010, 01:49 AM

This is why UKIP is our best alternative really, they are anti NWO and aren't extreme like the BNP. They don't want to kick anyone out, their policy is just "No more new arrivals from overseas for the time being"

Makes sense to me.

I agree with this. Having laughed my ass off at all the other parties manifesto's for either their lack of content or outright lies, I keep finding myself drawn to UKIP.

You dont have to tell people to get out, just shut the door. Ive worked extensivley with 50-65 year old moderate sikh & muslim men and women & even they saw the ways that people can get into the UK & settle their family on just a student visa is absolutely ridiculous.

The fact that there are 25,000 associations which promote seperation based on racial lines is plain stupid if you want communities to integrate. That most of these groups recieve taxpayer funding through one source or another is insulting.

alien77

11-01-2010, 02:22 AM

We saw how the Establishment treated Nick Griffin , about Question time on BBC....
...that they dont believe in democracy.....
First they tried to prevent him appearing....
...then they changed the format of the programme, and tried to stitch him up....and failed ....

Almost every week we have that asian lawyer on the programme...
no one fucking voted for her...

The 3 main parties are running scared....
Becos thet have to work harder to rig the result this year 2010, than what they normally do......

So hence alll 3 parties have agreed to give themselves , lots of AIR TIME, by agreeing to the leaders debates.....
its never happened before, until this election....

How nice of them to give themselves an advantage over everyone else....

The whole system is one big FIX...

bradstone

11-01-2010, 02:52 AM

eternal wheel wrote:

I'll have to write this s...l..o..w....l...y becuase you don't seem to
get it.

The BNP is A POLITICAL PARTY TRYING TO GAIN POWER
IN ORDER TO CREATE THE LAWS OF YOUR COUNTRY.

Who gives a fuck about these black police assosiations ?

Everybody should have the right in a free society to form their
own assosiations ONCE they are not trying to IMPOSE their BELIFS
on us ?

Come on. Is that the best argument you can put forword for your
racist BNP. The existence of some black police assosiation!!

I notice you DELETED where I said that if Muslims tried to do the
same thing as the bnp - impose their SICK views on us- they would
be just as bad.

In fact the BNP and these extreme Muslims are one AND THE SAME.

They both operate from a racist elitist perspective.

Sean, the problem with your idealistic view of the world, is that when you put lots of people from different ethnicities and religions together in a confined area, it is predictable that the crime and murder rate will go up. It happens every time.

So you end up sacrificing innocent lives, whether those lives happen to belong to black, Asian, or white people, to cling to an egalitarian ideal that doesn't work out in practice. For what? To feel good about yourself? Because you respect 'human rights'?

cstewart1987

11-01-2010, 02:54 AM

Sean, the problem with your idealistic view of the world, is that when you put lots of people from different ethnicities and religions together in a confined area, it is predictable that the crime and murder rate will go up. It happens every time.

So you end up sacrificing innocent lives, whether those lives happen to belong to black, Asian, or white people, to cling to an egalitarian ideal that doesn't work out in practice. For what? To feel good about yourself? Because you respect 'human rights'?

are you saying we need more segregation?

eternal wheel

11-01-2010, 08:26 AM

eternal wheel wrote:

I'll have to write this s...l..o..w....l...y becuase you don't seem to
get it.

The BNP is A POLITICAL PARTY TRYING TO GAIN POWER
IN ORDER TO CREATE THE LAWS OF YOUR COUNTRY.

Who gives a fuck about these black police assosiations ?

Everybody should have the right in a free society to form their
own assosiations ONCE they are not trying to IMPOSE their BELIFS
on us ?

Come on. Is that the best argument you can put forword for your
racist BNP. The existence of some black police assosiation!!

I notice you DELETED where I said that if Muslims tried to do the
same thing as the bnp - impose their SICK views on us- they would
be just as bad.

In fact the BNP and these extreme Muslims are one AND THE SAME.

They both operate from a racist elitist perspective.

i'll write this s....l....o....w....l....y... for you, the bnp is a legal political party. it is irrelevant whether you or i agree with their policies.
many, many people in england do agree with them, and it looks like they may get at least 1 seat at the up-coming election.
by your arguement, we don't have a free society now, because you cannot have a 'white-only' anything, but you can have a black, chinese, indian, pakistani, polish etc etc only. in fact anything but white.

it's not 'my' bnp.
to misquote someone famous, i may not agree with their policies, but i'll defend to the death their right to have them.
the lefties who want to ban the bnp are the radical fascists here, the bnp dont want to ban the lefties who oppose them......

sick views....? you mean ones you don't agree with? so you want everyone to hold the same views as you, and repress those who differ??
fascist.

the nine

11-01-2010, 11:10 AM

This is why UKIP is our best alternative really, they are anti NWO and aren't extreme like the BNP. They don't want to kick anyone out, their policy is just "No more new arrivals from overseas for the time being"

Makes sense to me.

I didnt know that UKIP is anti NWO
can you post some links please, I am very excited now..:)

do they see through the global carbon tax scam?

seanx

11-01-2010, 12:34 PM

Bradstone wrote:
Sean, the problem with your idealistic view of the world, is that when you put lots of people from different ethnicities and religions together in a confined area, it is predictable that the crime and murder rate will go up. It happens every time.

What BNP standard nonsense.

I know you racist guys thinks everything happens because of race....
but if you look a bit deeper, you'll always find the real cause is poverty.

Go to the well off part of any city where you have professional
people of all ethnic origins living togther and you will not
find horrible muder rates or CRIME rates.

Why?

Because the fear and stench of poverty is not there. There
are no lack of businss or career opportunities to prosper.

And so people are not separating, dividing and blaming each other.....and using
colour to label each other

But of course to you race guys.............everything bolis down
to race.

There can be no other cases!

You guys and the extreme muslims who want us all to live under
their mad koran are all the same.

Eliteists at heart.

seanx

11-01-2010, 12:47 PM

Eternal wheel:

i'll write this s....l....o....w....l....y... for you, the bnp is a legal political party. it is irrelevant whether you or i agree with their policies.
many, many people in england do agree with them, and it looks like they may get at least 1 seat at the up-coming election.
by your arguement, we don't have a free society now, because you cannot have a 'white-only' anything, but you can have a black, chinese, indian, pakistani, polish etc etc only. in fact anything but white.

Please tell me what is stopping you from forming a WHITE-ONLY group
of your own right now.

Absolutely nothing.

You can get a group of your WHITE only friends (do you not have
any other type -and if not,why would that be?) and meet to night -
and every night to discuss whatever your white-only friends would
like to discuss.

You can even give your group a name - maybe the Whities!

So please tell me what is stopping you from forming this
white-only group - right now?

What law stops you from doing it?????

teardropexplodes

11-01-2010, 12:53 PM

shadowmoon

11-01-2010, 03:04 PM

Eternal wheel:

Please tell me what is stopping you from forming a WHITE-ONLY group
of your own right now.

Absolutely nothing.

You can get a group of your WHITE only friends (do you not have
any other type -and if not,why would that be?) and meet to night -
and every night to discuss whatever your white-only friends would
like to discuss.

You can even give your group a name - maybe the Whities!

So please tell me what is stopping you from forming this
white-only group - right now?

What law stops you from doing it?????

Perhaps the same law that has seen the BNP prosecuted for being white members only is stopping many people from beginning white only groups.?

oioioi

11-01-2010, 03:24 PM

Perhaps the same law that has seen the BNP prosecuted for being white members only is stopping many people from beginning white only groups.?

:eek:

djsmallz

11-01-2010, 03:46 PM

if they jail him, would this mean he really is against the NWO and not really a tool being use by them as has been stated on this forum, over and over again.?

not necessarily..

seanx

11-01-2010, 07:24 PM

Shadowmoon wrote:

Perhaps the same law that has seen the BNP prosecuted for being
white members only is stopping many people from beginning white only groups.?

Please tell me what is stopping you NOW from forming your
WHITE-ONLY group ?

Absolutely nothing.

You can get a group of your WHITE only friends and meet to night -
and every night to discuss whatever your white-only friends
would like to discuss.

So please tell me what is stopping you from forming this
white-only group - right now?

What law stops you from doing it?????

Then you mention the BNP........ ?

But as has been said a 100 times so far on this thread .....

The BNP is A POLITICAL PARTY TRYING TO GAIN POWER
IN ORDER TO CREATE THE LAWS OF YOUR COUNTRY.

They are trying to gain power to impose their RACIST LAWS
ON ALL the POPULATION?

So they are subject to the laws of discrimination .

As is your black police assosiation as a public body.

In fact, you are perfectly FREE UNDER THE LAW to take a legal action
against this group if you believe and can prove they are discriminating
on the grounds of colour.

The LAW applies to them too.

There is nothing stopping you from doing that?

So where is all this terrible victimhood that we poor whites are
been subjected to?

Though I do notice all your BNP mouthpieces are obsessed with this
black police assosiation!

You guys always bring it up. In every BNP thread .

Are you sure that, like mr Griffins, it isn't big blackmen in uniform
that is the real freudian reason for your obession.

jesuitsdidit

11-01-2010, 07:34 PM

op

From The Sunday Times
January 10, 2010

BNP crisis as Nick Griffin faces jail over whites-only policy
David Leppard

* 47 Comments

BNP leader Nick Griffin joins mourners at the repatriation of six dead soldiers in Wootton Bassett, England

picIf found guilty, Griffin could face a jail sentence

The British National party is facing a crisis in the run-up to the general election after it emerged that Nick Griffin, its leader, could be jailed over its illegal “whites only” membership policy. ...

eternal wheel

11-01-2010, 07:39 PM

You can get a group of your WHITE only friends (do you not have
any other type -and if not,why would that be?)

yes thanks, i have friends who happen to be from all ethnic groups, tho their ethnicity is irrelevant to me....

edelweiss pirate

11-01-2010, 07:39 PM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6982345.ece

That's pretty disrgaceful!

Although I've no doubt whatsoever that Griffin works for establishment.

It's just another tentacle of the same fishy Illuminati monster.

He's prolly a mason for starters... can anyone confirm or deny?

I agree with Griffin, London IS no longer a British city. The level of immigration is absurd. There are whole swathes of London completely devoid of white people... What's that all about.....?

Sometimes I walk around London and I wonder what happened to the English..... It's like Jerusalem in 66 AD, the British people are becoming more and more forced into a wandering worldwide diaspora while our capital city is occupied by foreigners.....

And why are view like this considered racist?

They are only the facts.

Seems there's nothing we can do about it. We're only slaves afterall. The governement doesn't listen to us, and their nationalist parties are only Illuminati fronts for something much worse... Best not to give a shit because otherwise it starts to get to you and you start hating the foreigners rather than the Illuminati scum who are orchestrating it all......

Fuck Britain! Fuck national pride! Fuck the countries, their Kings Queens, their laws, their history their traditions. It's all SHITE! They never cared about us anyway, they take our finer feelings and use them to enrol us in wars and all bullshit....

I'm a citizen of the Universe......

My country has abandoned me so I will abandon my country.

the nine

11-01-2010, 07:43 PM

To all you idiots/shills out there who think the zionist BNP and Griffon are against the "new world order".
Why is it they constantly pedal the divisive zionist propaganda used to fracture and weaken us for centuries?
All we hear from them is anti-muslim bile. Yet who controls our banks? who controls our media? Big pharma? Military/industrial complex? How many muslims are in the cabinet? Who fronts the most powerful lobby groups here and in the States?
Muslims??? No.
Why do they still push the ludicrous fairytale that a few muslims brought down those three towers, hit the pentagon and bombed the London underground killing 56 innocents?
BNP and English Defence League are doing a fine job in BLINDING the British and sowing LIES, HATE and DISINFO. They are just as bad as all the rest.
STOP APOLOGISING AND MAKING EXCUSES FOR THESE FILTHY SCUMBAGS.
WAKE UP.
I suspect a lot of the posters here who refuse to denounce BNP are aware of all of this but have been sent here to do a job.

the control groups are not one single race, but most if not all races..they are the secret societies..the hidden hand..
regarding 911, the flight of the bin ladens and their ties to the bush regime and the contracts issued for the rebuilding of Iraq on the back of the requests to overthrow saddam hussain, who openly voiced anger at the middle east shieks for their flouting of the laws of the koran and living contradictory lifestyles..were all muslims..RIGHT?
they own merchant banks who invest in big pharma and god know what else..even manchester city lol.
but I am NOT saying it is the muslims fault, merely pointing out that they all play their part..zionist and muslim elites included!

my points still stand, why would they jail their own stooge?
he was the only person to stand up in the european parliment and oppose and highlight the global warming scam..maybe this is why they wany him jailed.....he might have become a loose cannon..this is what they did to fritz springmeier, they must have learned their mistakes with milton 'bill' cooper and the power of martyrism..

maybe all we hear is anti muslim bile because the editors who work in MSM only want you to hear that..just a thought?

but because I havent opposed the only party to speak out on issues which I feel strongly about, then I am an idiot or a shill..
they (BNP and griffen) were egged by the UAF whilst the police stood by and watched..WTF!
you go and throw eggs at somebody(politician) on the front lawn of the houses of parliment in front of the police because you dont agree with their politics, and see what happens to you!!

the bbc set them up with a staged question time..the bbc who peddle the most 911 propaganda, even knew about the collapse of building 7 20 mins before it happened!

my stance is this, read my posts and you will see I have said this all along..
THE BNP WILL NEVER GET THE SEAT OF POWER IN THIS COUNTRY, but they can force issues on the big three if they start getting seats in parliment..we NEED this..
only then will a real change be openly discussed.imho.

eternal wheel

11-01-2010, 07:49 PM

They are trying to gain power to impose their RACIST LAWS
ON ALL the POPULATION?
ok, s...l...o...w...l..y... again.... if they gain power, they will not be imposing any laws, racist or otherwise, because they'll have been elected. do you understand the concept of democracy??

dantesinferno

11-01-2010, 07:54 PM

ok, s...l...o...w...l..y... again.... if they gain power, they will not be imposing any laws, racist or otherwise, because they'll have been elected. do you understand the concept of democracy??

Tell that to The Labour Party that have created laws out of their arshole's that no one ever imagined, once they are in power the democracy bit ends.

You do understand how government works don't you?

Well this is my estimation on how it works anyway,

Lie about policy, get elected, then follow the agenda that was set all along.

eternal wheel

11-01-2010, 07:58 PM

Tell that to The Labour Party that have created laws out of their arshole's that no one ever imagined, once they are in power the democracy bit ends.

You do understand how government works don't you?

Well this is my estimation on how it works anyway,

Lie about policy, get elected, then follow the agenda that was set all along.
good point.

seanx

11-01-2010, 08:57 PM

Eternal wheel wrote:
ok, s...l...o...w...l..y... again.... if they gain power, they will not be imposing any laws, racist or otherwise, because they'll have been elected. do you understand the concept of democracy??

You can't seem to grasp the difference between private groups i.e.
your own sad all-white group meeting every night to compare how
victimized you are...and moan all night.....to A POLITICAL PARTY
that wants to change the laws of the land.

There is nothing stopping you from having your own whites-only group.

But the bnp as a public body is subject to the laws of the land. Because
they want to change the laws of the lands to kick all the blacks and
Asians,or as they say, those not of the anglo-sazon tribe out of the
country.

And by the same law, the black police assocaition is also subject
to this law.

Anyway, you BNP mouthpieces always try to tell us that the BNP ain't
a racist party ......so why do you want only white members in it??

shadowmoon

11-01-2010, 10:14 PM

A Lot of white people are hung up in white fear. A lot of white people are in fear to allow other white people their own their own ethnic identity in a way that they would never deny it to other races

Nobody wants to help white people, everybody just wants to use them, or just get to fuck themselves some white pussy.

seanx

11-01-2010, 11:58 PM

shadowmoon wrote:
A Lot of white people are hung up in white fear. A lot of white people are in fear to allow other white people their own their own ethnic identity in a way that they would never deny it to other races

Nobody wants to help white people, everybody just wants to use them, or just get to fuck themselves some white pussy.

What a load of whining nonsense .

Most people on this forum identify themselves as human beings.....and
not on the colour of their space-suit.

BTW, tell me one single RIGHT that has been taken away from you as
a white man in your 92% of Britain which is still white.

Then, try to do some growing up.

stelios

12-01-2010, 12:12 AM

I think this should been seen 4 what it is.
The Labour party are running scared of the BNP and know that many Labour voters will switch to the BNP.
The Labour tactic is therefore to nobble the BNP before the election.

mikey mikey

12-01-2010, 01:52 AM

BNP = cunts

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 08:34 AM

your own sad all-white group........ you BNP mouthpieces......... you want only white members

you are becoming tedious now.
you are not even bothering to read what i post, just ranting on about your fixation with the bnp. ok, lets try and find another way into your obviously empty head, again.... s....l....o....w....l....y.... and this time with CAPITAL LETTERS. I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE BNP, I AM NOT A MOUTHPIECE FOR THE BNP, I AM NOT RACIST IN ANY WAY, I DO NOT SUPPORT THE BNP.
i do, however, support their right to exist as a political party, on an equal footing with the other political parties, including the abhorrant extreme left so called "anti-nazi" parties. because i believe in freedom. unlike you who opposes anything they disagree with, and who seems to want a one-party state run along your beliefs, i.e. a dictatorship with you as the dictator.

kick all the blacks and
Asians,or as they say, those not of the anglo-sazon tribe out of the
country.
please put up a direct link to the part of the bnp manifesto where it says there policy is to kick out all non anglo-saxons?? i can't find it, neither can michael portillo. (gay jewish tory whet, not a bnp supporter. google him if you're unsure who he is).

always try to tell us that the BNP ain't
a racist party

us? who is 'us'? your fellow fascists? again, you will not find any rascism in the bnp manifesto.

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 08:36 AM

Most people on this forum identify themselves as human beings.....and
not on the colour of their space-suit.

but not you, obviously, otherwise you wouldn't keep banging on about colour, and ignoring the parts where i say colour is irrelevant....

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 08:40 AM

BNP = cunts

thanks for your constructive and adult input into this debate, i'm sure mr mcinnons supporters (including me) are very pleased to be assosiated with such an obviously talented (mass)debater such as yourself.

the crayons are over there, off you go.

twat.

childofthetao

12-01-2010, 08:46 AM

mikey mikey

12-01-2010, 08:49 AM

When asked if the BNP was racist, Edmonds said, "We are 100 per cent racist, yes". Richard Edmonds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/programmes/2001/bnp_special/roots/1984.stm

So there.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 08:52 AM

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 08:55 AM

mikey mikey

12-01-2010, 08:57 AM

a quick look shows that was said sometime between october 1990 and october 1991. i.e. nearly 10 years ago. hardly current, relevant or useful, eh. i'm sure i could find embarassing quotes by some random unknown leftie from 10 years ago if i really wanted to, but i can't be bothered, as it's a pointless exersize.
if you want to join in an adult conversation, at least try and keep up....

Seriously. ExersiZe.

Go back to school.

BTW

"There is no such thing as a black Welshman - you can have a black Briton but you cannot have a black Welshman...Our party acts for the indigenous people of these islands. We will act for others but they are not allowed into the party."

Nick Griffin 2009

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/griffin+aposit+is+not+about+colourapos/3227657

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 09:01 AM

nice to see you agree with the rest of it tho.

mikey mikey

12-01-2010, 09:03 AM

nice to see you agree with the rest of it tho.

eh? Talk sense man.:mad:

mikey mikey

12-01-2010, 09:22 AM

BNP = Cunts

purple rain

12-01-2010, 09:35 AM

Although I've no doubt whatsoever that Griffin works for establishment.

I agree with Griffin, London IS no longer a British city. The level of immigration is absurd. There are whole swathes of London completely devoid of white people... What's that all about.....?

Sometimes I walk around London and I wonder what happened to the English..... It's like Jerusalem in 66 AD, the British people are becoming more and more forced into a wandering worldwide diaspora while our capital city is occupied by foreigners.....

And why are view like this considered racist?

They are only the facts.

Any nternational city has many 'foreigners.' Have you thought maybe some of them are just visiting or there temporarily? Tourists, students etc?

The reason Brits are so threatened by others is because they have always been isolated and cut off, culturally and certainly spiritually. Cut off except when invading other countries. Cultural mixing is natural, only the imbalanced and insecure are threatened by it.

teardropexplodes

12-01-2010, 09:36 AM

I don't like racists and fascists as much as the next guy but BNP are NOT tools of the illuminati, they are against them.

I have seen gameshow host pick up there cards and be surprised at the question or statement they must read as it clearly is unethical and shouldn't really be part of the "game". It was this "What secret has been released on the internet that people wouldn't want to get out? Answer: BNP members names." That's paraphrasing but you can see that those who run the TV stations (illuminati) are trying to make it very difficult for BNP.

By doing this they probably put people (BNP members) in danger of attack, and thus some members may have left BNP.

No matter what ANYONE says, BNP are not run by the Illuminati.

Peace
Child of the Tao

BNP push the "illuminati" fairytale that a few muslims did 9/11 and 7/7. They invoke these zioinist terror operations and twist them in just the same way as the enemies of free humanity in order to demonise islam.
They are now in bed with Israel. Look at their rank and file's sickening response to the Zionist Entity's holocaust in Gaza last year.
All they ever do is divert attention away from the real controllers of our society via the use of scapegoats.
If you are too blind to see this then why are you reading David Icke's website?
He has devoted his life to identifying the real criminals.

the moral man

12-01-2010, 09:52 AM

Dear Friends
kind regards
Here is my take on the situation.
You have Nick Griffin that says non-Whites don't belong in Britain and then you have George Galloway says that non-Whites born in Britain are living in their own country.
Well I think that BOTH conclusions are true based on various things.
Basically non-Whites who are born here who pledge loyalty to the Nation are British in my view.
Non-Whites who are born here who pledge loyalty to Al-Queda are not British in my view.
The Al-Queda supporting British Muslims are hypocrits, they should leave Britain if they are loyal to this nation's enemy.
You can say what you want about William Joyce (Lord Haw Haw), but when he was at odds with this country and supported the Nazis, he went to join them.
There is such a thing known as a 'Spiritual home' that can go beyond race, if you hate this country and support Muslim regimes, then you should go and live in one.
Also on the issue of multi-cultural cities.
They are mostly filthy dysgenic hellholes due to the class issue of the races that live there.
The different races can co-exist as long as they are intelligent and of the right class.
When Nick Griffin talks of 'race clashes' what is he talking about in the majority of cases is the dreg classes of both sides (Whites and Muslims) clashing for supremacy.
It is always best to do your research on all sides rather than take sides because you can take snippets of truth from every side to get to the complete truth.
yours thankfully
John

shinobi

12-01-2010, 11:00 AM

Why would anyone who wasn't white want to join the BNP?

This is probably not about race anyway. The BNP are standing up for Britain and British rights, and are gaining popularity.

If they gained enough popularity, we would be out of the EU:D

childofthetao

12-01-2010, 11:23 AM

BNP push the "illuminati" fairytale that a few muslims did 9/11 and 7/7. They invoke these zioinist terror operations and twist them in just the same way as the enemies of free humanity in order to demonise islam.
They are now in bed with Israel. Look at their rank and file's sickening response to the Zionist Entity's holocaust in Gaza last year.
All they ever do is divert attention away from the real controllers of our society via the use of scapegoats.
If you are too blind to see this then why are you reading David Icke's website?
He has devoted his life to identifying the real criminals.

That's irrelevant, they should NOT be voted in just as much as the others shouldn't but they (BNP and illuminati) are not working together. I see them fighting each other, not working together.

Peace
Child of the Tao

john white

12-01-2010, 11:29 AM

That's irrelevant, they should NOT be voted in just as much as the others shouldn't but they (BNP and illuminati) are not working together. I see them fighting each other, not working together.

Then you see what "THEY" want to see

The BNP, and other organisations like Islam4uk, are the final resting place of the divided and the ruled

The BNP (and its many copycats through history across the world) is ESSENTIAL to continued illuminati control

ESSENTIAL

john white

12-01-2010, 11:31 AM

If you want the truth go to their site, check out their manifesto. Read the comments to the articles posted. There's alot of truth on there including what the Labour party etc have done and are doing to destroy this country.

Irrelevant

Totally irrelevant

The same truth is everywhere on the net, does not belong to the BNP in anyway what-so-ever, and is just cover for its purpose: keeping people like you contained by your own limitations and prejudices

Cheer your own slavery like a good little boy!

oioioi

12-01-2010, 11:48 AM

If you want the truth go to their site, check out their manifesto. Read the comments to the articles posted. There's alot of truth on there including what the Labour party etc have done and are doing to destroy this country.

Hitler spoke a lot of 'truth' too. It's what you do with regards to finding a 'final solution' that dictates if you are racist or not. The BNP are!

If I wear a swastika it doesn't make me racist, if a racist takes off their swastika they are still a racist and should 'fuck off back to the Caucasus'.

the nine

12-01-2010, 12:02 PM

BNP push the "illuminati" fairytale that a few muslims did 9/11 and 7/7. They invoke these zioinist terror operations and twist them in just the same way as the enemies of free humanity in order to demonise islam.
They are now in bed with Israel. Look at their rank and file's sickening response to the Zionist Entity's holocaust in Gaza last year.
All they ever do is divert attention away from the real controllers of our society via the use of scapegoats.
If you are too blind to see this then why are you reading David Icke's website?
He has devoted his life to identifying the real criminals.

so why is he ALWAYS brought to call upon the "holocaust denying" remarks if he is so PRO zionist?

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 12:05 PM

It's nothing like Germany and world war2.

rodin

12-01-2010, 12:07 PM

so why is he ALWAYS brought to call upon the "holocaust denying" remarks if he is so PRO zionist?

Staged like on the old Surf ads

Its about meme propagation

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 12:07 PM

so why is he ALWAYS brought to call upon the "holocaust denying" remarks if he is so PRO zionist?
Take no notice of him he has a one track mind it goes like this Zionists Israel add infinitum.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 12:13 PM

Irrelevant

Totally irrelevant

The same truth is everywhere on the net, does not belong to the BNP in anyway what-so-ever, and is just cover for its purpose: keeping people like you contained by your own limitations and prejudices

Cheer your own slavery like a good little boy!
Originally Posted by eternal_spirit http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058546370#post1058546370)
If you want the truth go to their site, check out their manifesto. Read the comments to the articles posted. There's alot of truth on there including what the Labour party etc have done and are doing to destroy this country.

Fuck off you popmous judgemental twat. It is totally relevant. Your own prejudices are showing JW.

the nine

12-01-2010, 12:14 PM

Staged like on the old Surf ads

Its about meme propagation

sorry dont know what meme propagation is?

but, it was really really ackward for griffen on question time when this subject was brought up and they had families of holocaust victims in the audience shouting at him..
a real stitch up job!
he was on the back foot..
never seen any families of the dead afghans families or Iraqi families on there when jack straw was on their or any of the others who openly supported the illegal invasion..

oioioi

12-01-2010, 12:15 PM

Do you have as much faith in other political parties being true to their manifesto?

Just because they don't say they are racist on their site isn't proof they are not racist.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 12:21 PM

Straw man arguments Nazi this Nazi that you lot are incapable of debate.
Do you want to talk about British politics or world war fuicking 2. If the latter go to another thread.

oioioi

12-01-2010, 12:26 PM

Straw man arguments Nazi this Nazi that you lot are incapable of debate.
Do you want to talk about British politics or world war fuicking 2. If the latter go to another thread.

http://loggerhead.org/blogblog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Aug09_VE_Nazi-Nick.gif

That's why we keep referring to National Socialism

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 12:34 PM

Fuck the lot of you. I'm out of this thread. It's all been debated hundreds of times before. I gave you some sound advice a few posts ago but you will ignore it.

I won't hang around for one of JW's patronising lectures heard it all before.
Ps Labour and the previous Conservative government has the same VOLUNTARY repatriation policies as BNP (some of you know may know this already because we've been round in circles before)

oioioi

12-01-2010, 12:35 PM

Fuck the lot of you. I'm out of this thread.

Now you know how a muslim feels

:D:p:D

Not nice being singled out for your beliefs is it?

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 12:56 PM

Now you know how a muslim feels

:D:p:D

Not nice being singled out for your beliefs is it?
Not my beliefs. I was telling you to go look at the Bnp site. Go to the source.

oioioi

12-01-2010, 01:05 PM

Not my beliefs. I was telling you to go look at the Bnp site. Go to the source.

And you were also telling us that this proves they are not racist, it does no such thing.

seanx

12-01-2010, 02:03 PM

Eternal wheel

please put up a direct link to the part of the bnp manifesto where it says there policy is to kick out all non anglo-saxons?? i can't find it, neither can michael portillo. (gay jewish tory whet, not a bnp supporter. google him if you're unsure who he is).

I can do better that.

Go to the exhaustive thread here on your BNP here on this forum
- where we provide direct Quotes from their Consitution, their 'Plan of action',
videos of their leaders sniggering how they will fool people by manipulating spin language
( like new Labour)- by hiding the race 'thing' until we gain 'power'.

And look how SUCCESSFUL it is with people like you!!

They now say that bRITAIN should now belong to the 'anglo-sazon'.

And that anybody who is non-anglo-sazon has no rights to be a real
'Brition'?

Now - how many original black, ASian, or Chineses Anglo-sazons
do you know????

That's how you bnp mouthpieces now try and pretend that you
are not racists .

A sick joke!

Mr. Blair, Mandelson and Campell would be proud of your manipulation
of language and spin!!

us? who is 'us'? your fellow fascists? again, you will not find any rascism in the bnp manifesto.
You tell me you are not BNP?

Yet everyone of your posts here is to support and defend them???

Ain't got the courage to declare your support openingly?

You say they are not racist? Well then, why would they ONLY ALLOW
White members only?

Don't you think there was a hint there???

Surely that should get your brain twitching!!

Why do these guys not want blacks or Asians in THEIR party?

I won't keep you now....you have a lot of reading to do here.

seanx

12-01-2010, 02:12 PM

John White wrote:

Then you see what "THEY" want to see

The BNP, and other organisations like Islam4uk, are the final resting place of the divided and the ruled

The BNP (and its many copycats through history across the world) is ESSENTIAL to continued illuminati control

ESSENTIAL
__________________

Dead on as usual.

BNP, and the Islam4uk - you could call them sister parties!!

On the outside they may APPEAR total opposites, yet they are
fronts for the exact same type of mentality.

They deserve each other. And mere playthings to the guys
pulling the main strings.

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 02:59 PM

Any nternational city has many 'foreigners.' Have you thought maybe some of them are just visiting or there temporarily? Tourists, students etc?

The reason Brits are so threatened by others is because they have always been isolated and cut off, culturally and certainly spiritually. Cut off except when invading other countries. Cultural mixing is natural, only the imbalanced and insecure are threatened by it.

I live in London mate. Check it out one day.... and you'll see what I mean.

Why the whitewash?

The UK has a seeming problem controlling immigration. Even politicians admit to it, yet they seem unable to do anything about it.

It doesn't help when we have french politicians sneeking in Veitnamese illegal immigrants by the van load.

I don't think any of this is open to debate, it is an open fact.

To say I am scared of foreigners is laughable. I have lived fully abroad for around 7 of my 33 years of life on earth.

But then it all depends which planet YOU live on I suppose.

purple rain

12-01-2010, 03:13 PM

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 03:19 PM

I've been to London, it's a cosmopolitan city and naturally will have "outsiders." It's a nice thing to see in my view.

'I've been to London' isn't the same as me 'living in London'....

So please admit you just don't know what you're talking about.

They've basically replaced London's population with foreigners, some of whom are living there long term as illegal Somalian refugees, or Nigerian gangsters on the run, or the host of people from all over the world whose own failed economies mean they come to England to steal jobs from us and lower the standard of living.

You walk around London and except in placed like Hampstead, Camden you see no white brits at all. I am a school teacher and most schools I work in have about one or two white kids in the class. The rest are asians or blacks exclusively.

Tower Hamlets, Waltham forest, Redbridge, all these areas have virtually NO WHITE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I find that slightly odd in my own so called country....

But of course someone sold my country out a long time ago.

The Poles recently came and bankrupted our economy by looting our jobs and sending all the money they made home, rather than putting it back into the economy....

The Poles suddenly virtually all dissappear and suddenly we have a financial crisis! BINGO!

Or course we do, they've cleaned us out!

Is that the agenda? The UK is open for looters to try to make the rest of the world richer by robbing what assets our economy has?

Seems to be.....

Anyway I hope my facts are good enough for you....

I doubt it though..... People like you are bored and just want to argue for the hell of it.

seanx

12-01-2010, 04:05 PM

edelweiss pirate wrote:
Tower Hamlets, Waltham forest, Redbridge, all these areas have virtually NO WHITE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I find that slightly odd in my own so called country....

So, in your little world, white= British.

How revealing.

So all those kids you teach who are black, maybe 2 or 3 generations
aren't still 'British' in your eyes!

You want to see more 'white' kids.

Fuck me. Annd you say you are a teacher. You're actually teaching in
schools in Britain!

Now.....that is worrying!

The Poles recently came and bankrupted our economy by looting our jobs and sending all the money they made home, rather than putting it back into the economy....

The Poles suddenly virtually all dissappear and suddenly we have a financial crisis! BINGO!

Well, clearly.....you don't teach ecomonics! - if that's what you think
caused the financial crash!!

It wasn't greed, lack of regulation, or the Elite purposly manipulating
the system ( Watch who all the new owners of the smaller number of consolidatd Banks will be)

No....it was all due to the poor Polish workers!

You couldn't make it up.

I'm leaving this thread for the sake of my own mental health

decim

12-01-2010, 04:20 PM

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 04:20 PM

edelweiss pirate wrote:

So, in your little world, white= British.

How revealing.

So all those kids you teach who are black, maybe 2 or 3 generations
aren't still 'British' in your eyes!

You want to see more 'white' kids.

Fuck me. Annd you say you are a teacher. You're actually teaching in
schools in Britain!

Now.....that is worrying!

Well, clearly.....you don't teach ecomonics! - if that's what you think
caused the financial crash!!

It wasn't greed, lack of regulation, or the Elite purposly manipulating
the system ( Watch who all the new owners of the smaller number of consolidatd Banks will be)

No....it was all due to the poor Polish workers!

You couldn't make it up.

I'm leaving this thread for the sake of my own mental health

AD HOMINEM

I'm giving facts here and you're just attacking me and going into your usual screaming fit.

I think most people know what you're about, that you're clearly more than a little mentally unhinged, you just don't get challenged on it because you go completely hysterical every five minutes screaming and shouting at people. Maybe people just ignore you. Might be a good idea.

Just let you keep the madness in your own head rather than infect the forum.

Benivenu a mon 'ignore list.'

Au revoir!

decim

12-01-2010, 04:22 PM

A couple of 'choice' quotes from seanx

Is English your first language? or are you a bit slow?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=781271#post781271

seanx
Noting your choice of language, 'Eire' and phrases such as
'security of the Realm' ?? I doubt if you are actually Irish,
merely just living here.

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 04:25 PM

The huge increases in migrants over the last decade were due to a politically motivated attempt by ministers to radically change the country and "rub the Right's nose in diversity", according to Andrew Neather, a former adviser to Tony Blair, Jack Straw and David Blunkett.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Clearly. Thank goodness for rational sane, intellectually motivated posters.

BTW Sean, I hope you run into those Nigerian gangsters some day, oh the joys of multiculturalism!

What about that Baby's torso found in the Thames?

Is this what it is to be a 'tolerant country'?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1899609.stm

Last September a boy's torso was found in the Thames. Police now believe it could have been a "muti" killing, a human sacrifice practiced in southern Africa. Here, as seen in a BBC Two documentary, a mother reflects how she was forced to help kill her own child.

Helen Madide, of the Thohoyandou area in South Africa, was 18-years-old when she became a social pariah.

She was the mother of a toddler named Fulufhuwani and was separated from his father, Naledzani Mabuda, a traditional healer known as a sangoma.

Helen Madide
Helen Madide: Acquitted but guilt-ridden
While the couple tried to sort out their differences, Helen returned to her parents' village. Baby Fulufhuwani regularly went to stay with his father and grandmother.

While most of the 70,000 sangomas in South Africa provide herbal remedies for minor ailments, some crave more potent ingredients to practice muti, the Zulu word for medicine.

"He began to tell me stories. His ancestors said that he must kill me and the child so that he can be rich," Helen told Nobody's Child, a BBC documentary on the investigation into the London boy's death.

"He showed me the path and forced me to go along that path. He was pushing me and demanding me to go whether I like it or not. He said he was going to kill the baby first while I see the baby, then secondly he will kill me."

Although Helen tried to escape, Mabuda caught her and forced her to hold Fulufhuwani's legs while he cut the child's throat.

"When the child was dead, he started to cut all those pieces, the hands, the legs and even the sex organs," Helen says.

Limbs from children, primarily the sexual organs, are said to be the most potent. These are sometimes taken from live victims because their screams are thought to enhance the power of the medicines.

A police graphic of Adam's remains
A police graphic of the child's remains found in the Thames
Mabuda then locked Helen up with the child's body. But his relatives, fearing for his wife and child, called the police.

Although her husband was sentenced to life in prison, Helen was acquitted. Six years after her child's death, Helen is trying to get into university to study human sciences.

She has been accepted at a number of universities but the offer is always withdrawn when they realise she is that Helen Madide. One university refused to provide her with accommodation because they feared she might be a danger to local children.

Butchered innocence

Conservative estimates are that at least 300 people have been murdered for their body parts in the past decade in South Africa.

And Dr Anthony Minnar, of the Institute for Human Rights and Criminal Justice in South Africa, fears the toll could be much higher.

Jeffery Mkhonto from Sottondale village in South Africa
Jeffery Mkhonto had his genitals cut off at age 12
"We have children going missing every week from our townships," he says. "The assumption is that those missing children are being put into prostitution and also that they are being used for muti murder."

One of the few who lived to tell the tales was Jeffery Mkhonto, who four years ago when he was 12 was mutilated by an organised gang sent to harvest body parts.

Jeffery was called over to the house of a neighbour for some food. Instead the man cut off his genitals with a butcher's knife.

"They took me home and left me in front of my father's house. As they left I heard them say they are going to sell my parts so that they can get money."

I heard them say they are going to sell my parts so that they can get money

Jeffery Mkhonto
But the police have found it difficult to investigate because in such cases, no-one is prepared to come forward.

Similarly in London, little progress has been made on identifying the torso of the boy which was found in the Thames last September - or his killers. Whether or not he was indeed the UK's first recorded victim of a muti killing, the Metropolitan Police are convinced it was ritualistic.

Among the South African experts advising them is Colonel Jonker, who has retired from that country's Occult Crime Unit.

He says: "If there's a guy operating in London, he's going to need body parts again."

Black Britain: Nobody's Child will be broadcast in the UK on BBC Two on Tuesday 2 April at 2320 GMT.

This needs to be said loud and clear:

SOME PEOPLE NEED TO BE SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

purple rain

12-01-2010, 04:48 PM

'I've been to London' isn't the same as me 'living in London'....

So please admit you just don't know what you're talking about.

They've basically replaced London's population with foreigners, some of whom are living there long term as illegal Somalian refugees, or Nigerian gangsters on the run, or the host of people from all over the world whose own failed economies mean they come to England to steal jobs from us and lower the standard of living.

You walk around London and except in placed like Hampstead, Camden you see no white brits at all. I am a school teacher and most schools I work in have about one or two white kids in the class. The rest are asians or blacks exclusively.

Tower Hamlets, Waltham forest, Redbridge, all these areas have virtually NO WHITE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I find that slightly odd in my own so called country....

But of course someone sold my country out a long time ago.

The Poles recently came and bankrupted our economy by looting our jobs and sending all the money they made home, rather than putting it back into the economy....

The Poles suddenly virtually all dissappear and suddenly we have a financial crisis! BINGO!

Or course we do, they've cleaned us out!

Is that the agenda? The UK is open for looters to try to make the rest of the world richer by robbing what assets our economy has?

Seems to be.....

Anyway I hope my facts are good enough for you....

I doubt it though..... People like you are bored and just want to argue for the hell of it.

I'm sorry but I've heard these arguements from racist just too many times to take it seriously for a moment. So rather than me saying I don't know what I'm talking about, please admit that you're just another racist scumbag. 'Replaced', interesting choice of word. So British blacks are not your own people, in your words.

I don't care if you live there, you're a propagandist, and a clear racist. I've walked and driven around London a good deal, and I'm sorry but the majority I saw were easily white. Don't tell me what I saw. Blaming the Polish for that crisis is also retarded. And the world isn't getting richer at your expense you uneducated so called teacher. The only thing you're worthy of teaching is nazi/bnp campaign literature. Emphasis on nazi rather than literature.

purple rain

12-01-2010, 04:50 PM

This needs to be said loud and clear:

SOME PEOPLE NEED TO BE SENT BACK TO WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

And you don't belong in any civilized society. You should be euthanised. I'm with Kissinger on this one all the way.

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 05:33 PM

And you don't belong in any civilized society. You should be euthanised. I'm with Kissinger on this one all the way.

Nurse! More Risperdal for the PC nut, she's losing it.

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Hidden in plain sight.... please take a stroll you little Spook...

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 05:43 PM

Hey Purple,

Most schools in London have maybe 1 or two white kids in the classes.

This isn't a racist argument, it's a fact. One I find strange....

But as someone who neither lives in London or knows what they're talking about BUT WHO IS A SELF CONFESSED DISINFO AGENT, I find it odd that you allow yourself the luxury of shouting racist at people like me who have lived abroad for many many years and nearly got married to a black girl from Southern Africa..... I called it off when I found she worked for MI5 though.

So me racist? Nope, not a hope.....

Typical smear tactics of those who attack those who question the NWO/EU plans to destroy British society and culture by infiltrating Nigerian gangster and African child murdering witch doctors....

Niiiice.... I personally think African child killers and gangsters fresh off the boat have no place in British society.... I wonder where you live.... I hope you get them as neighbours. A dose of normal reality might burst your goof bubble.

cpfc12

12-01-2010, 05:46 PM

the nine

12-01-2010, 05:54 PM

purple rain

12-01-2010, 05:59 PM

WHO IS A SELF CONFESSED DISINFO AGENT

Poor fruitloop.

, I find it odd that you allow yourself the luxury of shouting racist at people like me who have lived abroad for many many years and nearly got married to a black girl from Southern Africa..... I called it off when I found she worked for MI5 though.So me racist? Nope, not a hope.....

Trust me, I have heard it all from people like yourself.

'I was married to a black person, but my experience with one person has changed my attitude towards their whole kind and now I think they should all be sent back.'

Those are the types of comments I have come across over the years, including the ever popular, I have black friends.

Typical smear tactics of those who attack those who question the NWO/EU plans to destroy British society and culture by infiltrating Nigerian gangster and African child murdering witch doctors....

And you don't think child murdering exists within powerful people in your own society, even though you post on an Icke forum. Racist shill.

Niiiice.... I personally think African child killers and gangsters fresh off the boat have no place in British society.... I wonder where you live.... I hope you get them as neighbours. A dose of normal reality might burst your goof bubble.

Last thing I need is a lecture on realitfrom a delusional, brain damaged racist who claims to be a teacher and hogs threads shoving down propaganda of various kinds down others throats. I've seen your spamming of spirtuality topics too, spamracist.

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 06:02 PM

I'm sorry but this is becoming blatant now
right you have a white working class who have been ignored by the liberal middle classes for years now, even decades !
Now the musilims get scapegoated and already racial tensions are being ignited by the press, who then get to report of the consequences of the media reporting "igniting" such incidents.
SO one minute the media is telling everyone to hate musilims with the wotton basset march, and headlines such as "islam is dividing britain". where it should say "media is dividing britain". And then the next minute they say how nick griffin is bad, yet they casuse most of the islamophobia, i am sorry but this is being engineered.
Remember Hitler was nicked before he came into power.

You're not addressing the deliberate social engineering of UK society so as to criminalise and exclude native whites as much as possible.

Did you know that a senior French politician was exposed as helping illegal immigrants into the UK?

There is an agenda here..... It is the destruction of the UK as we know it, and indeed, the notion of soveriegn states with ethnic identities, the replacement is literally, a new world order where every group in put together in close quarters and SET AT EACH OTHERS' THROATS.

That way, we leave the government alone and point the finger at people with different colour skin or different religious views.

The beauty of it is THEY get to nick BOTH GROUPS, one for racist views, the other for plotting terrorism.

THAT is the FULL story.

oioioi

12-01-2010, 06:02 PM

Some of my friends are racist bigots.

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 06:04 PM

Some of my friends are racist bigots.

Anything interesting to say?

Come on, it's getting spicy round here, don't kill the thread please with provocative words but nothing to back it up....

cpfc12

12-01-2010, 06:06 PM

You're not addressing the deliberate social engineering of UK society so as to criminalise and exclude native whites as much as possible.

Did you know that a senior French politician was exposed as helping illegal immigrants into the UK?

There is an agenda here..... It is the destruction of the UK as we know it, and indeed, the notion of soveriegn states with ethnic identities, the replacement is literally, a new world order where every group in put together in close quarters and SET AT EACH OTHERS' THROATS.

That way, we leave the government alone and point the finger at people with different colour skin or different religious views.

The beauty of it is THEY get to nick BOTH GROUPS, one for racist views, the other for plotting terrorism.

THAT is the FULL story.

I wanted to cut it down to a short sentence, the failure of middle class liberals on the white working class

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 06:11 PM

I wanted to cut it down to a short sentence, the failure of middle class liberals on the white working class

I have very limited sympathy for the so called 'working class', most of them are sun reading X factor watching anti-intellectuals...

I have spent most of my life cheek by jowl with the working classes and I see their ignorance, apathy and pointless directionless anger as being as much a cause of all our problems as their solution.

I have no time for their stupid racism and their aimless, senseless and uninformed national pride. FUCK BRITAIN! IT'S A SHITHOLE, ruled by cunts, we're treat like cunts. Usually because most of us act like cunts....

All I'm saying is, immigration is a poltical tool of the Illuminati.

It goes BEYOND our government and strays into the territory of New World Order, PAN government, INTERNATIONAL MARXISM.

It is part of the agenda. To be called a 'racist' by Purple Rain 'the spook' for pointing this out just isn't on.

WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON ISSUES RELATING TO IMMIGRATION.

WITHOUT BEING CALLED RACIST.

THAT IS ALL!

purple rain

12-01-2010, 06:14 PM

ignorance, ... and pointless directionless anger as being as much a cause of all our problems as their solution.

Sounds like you're talking about yourself.

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 06:16 PM

oh dear, mr tediocity is back,
here we go again, same 'ol same 'ol....

your BNP
not my bnp.

with people like you!!
you know me?

you bnp mouthpieces
not...

You tell me you are not BNP?
yep.

Yet everyone of your posts here is to support and defend them???
not support, but yes, defend. i defend their right to exist because i'm not a fascist who wants to oppress political parties i don't agree with. like you.

Ain't got the courage to declare your support openingly?
see above.

purple rain

12-01-2010, 06:16 PM

WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON ISSUES RELATING TO IMMIGRATION.

WITHOUT BEING CALLED RACIST.

THAT IS ALL!

Immigration? Your problem seems to be the lack of white faces in your neighbourhoods, that's what all your posts have detailed. Not illegal immigration per se.

oioioi

12-01-2010, 06:20 PM

Some of my friends are racist bigots.Anything interesting to say?

Come on, it's getting spicy round here, don't kill the thread please with provocative words but nothing to back it up....

I use this to counter racists who use the "some of my best friends are black" line.

rydeon

12-01-2010, 06:23 PM

I wanted to cut it down to a short sentence, the failure of middle class liberals on the white working class

Yep, that's been going on since the 1960s I'd say, and now the middle-class are going to be let down by the government if the current rot gets any worse :)

cpfc12

12-01-2010, 06:24 PM

I have very limited sympathy for the so called 'working class', most of them are sun reading X factor watching anti-intellectuals...

I have spent most of my life cheek by jowl with the working classes and I see their ignorance, apathy and pointless directionless anger as being as much a cause of all our problems as their solution.

I have no time for their stupid racism and their aimless, senseless and uninformed national pride. FUCK BRITAIN! IT'S A SHITHOLE, ruled by cunts, we're treat like cunts. Usually because most of us act like cunts....

All I'm saying is, immigration is a poltical tool of the Illuminati.

It goes BEYOND our government and strays into the territory of New World Order, PAN government, INTERNATIONAL MARXISM.

It is part of the agenda. To be called a 'racist' by Purple Rain 'the spook' for pointing this out just isn't on.

WE NEED TO TAKE BACK OUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON ISSUES RELATING TO IMMIGRATION.

WITHOUT BEING CALLED RACIST.

THAT IS ALL!

Bruv its blatant some black man has fucked your ex girlfriend/ wife

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 06:25 PM

Some of my friends are racist bigots.
What they hate whites?

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 06:28 PM

Bruv its blatant some black man has fucked your ex girlfriend/ wife

Idiot.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 06:32 PM

BNP are the only party willing to stop mass immigration and the wars abroad, pull the troops out. And want to get out of the EU.

BNP have the same VOLUNTARY repatriation policies as the Labour and former conservative party. (no different, means they won't be forcefully deporting anyone who isn't white, just because of skin tone they may deport illegal immigrants and evil criminals like any other sane country with a government that doesn't betray it's own people.

OMG they are so evil! :rolleyes:
Is that simple and clear enough

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 06:32 PM

So stop your bloomin fear mongering for God's sake!

edelweiss pirate

12-01-2010, 06:33 PM

I use this to counter racists who use the "some of my best friends are black" line.

And what?

It's you PC drones who see racists everywhere....

So we can't even debate illegal immigration now without being called racist?

You're a mind controlled turkey. Welcome to the shit farm.

Facts don't even matter to you do they? Just as long as you can cluck the word racist and lay a big fat shit egg whenever you want.

The PC zombie army are in force on the DI forum aren't they?

Blah fucking blah!

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 06:41 PM

I live in London mate. Check it out one day.... and you'll see what I mean.

Why the whitewash?

The UK has a seeming problem controlling immigration. Even politicians admit to it, yet they seem unable to do anything about it.

It doesn't help when we have french politicians sneeking in Veitnamese illegal immigrants by the van load.

I don't think any of this is open to debate, it is an open fact.

'
They've basically replaced London's population with foreigners, some of whom are living there long term as illegal Somalian refugees, or Nigerian gangsters on the run, or the host of people from all over the world whose own failed economies mean they come to England to steal jobs from us and lower the standard of living.

You walk around London and except in placed like Hampstead, Camden you see no white brits at all. I am a school teacher and most schools I work in have about one or two white kids in the class. The rest are asians or blacks exclusively.

Tower Hamlets, Waltham forest, Redbridge, all these areas have virtually NO WHITE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS.

The Poles recently came and bankrupted our economy by looting our jobs and sending all the money they made home, rather than putting it back into the economy....

Is that the agenda? The UK is open for looters to try to make the rest of the world richer by robbing what assets our economy has?

My friend had his own business builder he couldn't get no work before this he worked with the Polish and said they where okay guys, but said wish they'd go home to Poland, eventually the Poles took all the work
so it went bust
Hey Purple,

Most schools in London have maybe 1 or two white kids in the classes.

This isn't a racist argument, it's a fact. One I find strange....

But as someone who neither lives in London or knows what they're talking about BUT WHO IS A SELF CONFESSED DISINFO AGENT, I find it odd that you allow yourself the luxury of shouting racist at people like me who have lived abroad for many many years and nearly got married to a black girl from Southern Africa..... I called it off when I found she worked for MI5 though.

So me racist? Nope, not a hope.....

Typical smear tactics of those who attack those who question the NWO/EU plans to destroy British society and culture by infiltrating Nigerian gangster and African child murdering witch doctors....

Niiiice.... I personally think African child killers and gangsters fresh off the boat have no place in British society.... I wonder where you live.... I hope you get them as neighbours. A dose of normal reality might burst your goof bubble.
The voice of reason well said for telling it like it is EP, it's like I've been saying all along.
Purple is an uber troll and I reckon a racist cos he used the race card all the time. Maybe a Muslim fundy. This place is overun with them

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 06:51 PM

The True Face Of Immigration - YouTubeThe True Face Of Immigration

You wouldn't believe this is Wembley London capital of England.
Watch it yourself. Spot the white people there aren't any they have been ethnically cleansed.

London has more mosques than any other city in the world except Istanbul London has more than Mecca. And I believe they have got the planning permission to build the mega Mosque near Wembley (which is totally Islamised already)

It will be the biggest religious building in Europe.

ANd

Please watch the video before commenting. This is just one example of how mass immigration forces out the white indigenous people from places that not so long ago (10 years or so) where majority white and other places all white areas that have now become what looks like a foreign country.

Multiculturalism in London Peckham - YouTubeMulticulturalism in London Peckham )mono culturalism foreign

The British people have been ethnically cleansed from Peckham
Mile end road, Brixton, New Cross, Clapham,Wandsworth, Hackney(the murder mile),Ealing to name a few London areas are the same or even worse than this. Slough, Southall, Bradford.

hadabusa

12-01-2010, 06:54 PM

'I've been to London' isn't the same as me 'living in London'....

So please admit you just don't know what you're talking about.

They've basically replaced London's population with foreigners, some of whom are living there long term as illegal Somalian refugees, or Nigerian gangsters on the run, or the host of people from all over the world whose own failed economies mean they come to England to steal jobs from us and lower the standard of living.

You walk around London and except in placed like Hampstead, Camden you see no white brits at all. I am a school teacher and most schools I work in have about one or two white kids in the class. The rest are asians or blacks exclusively.

Tower Hamlets, Waltham forest, Redbridge, all these areas have virtually NO WHITE KIDS IN THE SCHOOLS.

I find that slightly odd in my own so called country....

But of course someone sold my country out a long time ago.

The Poles recently came and bankrupted our economy by looting our jobs and sending all the money they made home, rather than putting it back into the economy....

The Poles suddenly virtually all dissappear and suddenly we have a financial crisis! BINGO!

Or course we do, they've cleaned us out!

Is that the agenda? The UK is open for looters to try to make the rest of the world richer by robbing what assets our economy has?

Seems to be.....

Anyway I hope my facts are good enough for you....

I doubt it though..... People like you are bored and just want to argue for the hell of it.
ive lived in london , its true,you dont see much white english ppl,no doubt.
but part of the immigration "problem" is "feeling sorry4former colonies"(many get passports or work/stay permission).
so, the uk citizens in london are becoming more coloured.
its what goes around(brit colony ships conquering innocent nations)goes around(slavery abolished/modernized, colony citizens allowed living in uk).

colonys come ata price, its just that the bill is due much later in time.

hadabusa

12-01-2010, 06:57 PM

I use this to counter racists who use the "some of my best friends are black" line.

lolol

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 07:06 PM

ive lived in london , its true,you dont see much white english ppl,no doubt.
but part of the immigration "problem" is "feeling sorry4former colonies"(many get passports or work/stay permission).
so, the uk citizens in london are becoming more coloured.
its what goes around(brit colony ships conquering innocent nations)goes around(slavery abolished/modernized, colony citizens allowed living in uk).

colonys come ata price, its just that the bill is due much later in time.
Brits where not the only ones, the Ottomans, Chinese Japanese don't foegt to wash your knees. Yet they have alsmost one indigenous race in their own land and would not allow the racial make up to change drastically via mass immigration.

(but no one calls them racist add infinitum) But many are.

Islam is an Judaism are not indigenous in Afghanistan, iran, iraq, Inida (most of the indigenous people are Aryans ovarious tones from light to brown)

Ask the Indians and mnay will tell you this is true

oink

12-01-2010, 07:08 PM

Nick Griffin is a sexually confused fantasist who spent much of his childhood attending a girls school. At fifteen he joined the National Front, whose heriarchy were impressed with him at a young age (ie openly gay organiser Martin Webster had him stay at his home many times). A few years later this badly educated NFer is accepted into Cambridge. He is invited to Libya in the 80s, and is given an undisclosed amount of money from Colonel Gadaffi.

Nick Griffin is also involved with movements designed to link European far right groups with ones in the US. What an anti centralist.
His belief in racial division shows him to being a fan of the Eugenics movement.

But, the fact is that he is an idiot. He is a mumbling ranter who believes his own hype. He is not running the BNP. He's a face that some can love and some can hurl venom at, but he's not the real leader. He jumps when his sponsors tell him, just like in other partys. And he's heading for a very big fall, to make way for a more charismatic "leader".

It is disgraceful that anyone should go to prison just on the basis of their club's membership, and the reason behind the law is to divide, rather than allow people to rationalise. But don't be fooled by martyrdom. Yes, support freedom of speech. Shout against his loss of liberty, but don't think that he is a leader of freedom.

Remember: I disagree with your opinion but I would fight to the death for your right to make it.

hadabusa

12-01-2010, 07:09 PM

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 07:09 PM

Well my bro in law is half Indian and his kids are darker tone than their English MUM. His family had to do a runner from India because the Muslims where killing all none Muslims, his Dad fought against Germany (like both my Grandads Irish and English) in the war then went home and got chased out of India by Muslims.

I had German family who fought against the English (guess that makes me Nazi:rolleyes:) huh
I've told this story (truth) a hundred times on this forum yet I still get called Nazi racist.

dantesinferno

12-01-2010, 07:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1b9J8D3tOg&feature=player_embedded
The True Face Of Immigration

You wouldn't believe this is Wembley London capital of England.
Watch it yourself. Spot the white people there aren't any they have been ethnically cleansed.

London has more mosques than any other city in the world except Istanbul London has more than Mecca. And I believe they have got the planning permission to build the mega Mosque near Wembley (which is totally Islamised already)

It will be the biggest religious building in Europe.

ANd

Please watch the video before commenting. This is just one example of how mass immigration forces out the white indigenous people from places that not so long ago (10 years or so) where majority white and other places all white areas that have now become what looks like a foreign country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJGVWf-OhkA&feature=player_embedded
Multiculturalism in London Peckham )mon culturalism foreign

The British people have been ethnically cleansed from Peckham
Mile end road, Brixton, New Cross, Clapham,Wandsworth, Hackney(the murder mile),Ealing to name a few London areas are the same or even worse than this. Slough, Southall, Bradford.

thos videos don't prove shit, there are parts of London where you will see more white people than non-white, the richer parts.

To cite a few of your examples, Hackney, Wandsworth and Mile End is full of white people, its just they are driving around in there cars and shopping in big supermarkets.

Yes the big city's in the UK are full of immigrants and non-whites but also very poor British people, many that are not white

Just listen to the Welsh BNP guy, they way he talks about the people he is filming and your trying to say that the BNP are not a race based party?

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 07:11 PM

wouldnt ukip be the same,but without whitesonly policy?:confused:
Not sure about their manifesto and doubt they'd get enough votes we never hear of them in the media (although I rarely follow the news ) they are anti EU, that's all I know.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 07:14 PM

thos videos don't prove shit, there are parts of London where you will see more white people than non-white, the richer parts.

To cite a few of your examples, Hackney, Wandsworth and Mile End is full of white people, its just they are driving around in there cars and shopping in big supermarkets.

Yes the big city's in the UK are full of immigrants and non-whites but also very poor British people, many that are not white

Just listen to the Welsh BNP guy, they way he talks about the people he is filming and your trying to say that the BNP are not a race based party?
Utter bollox you must be a troll or white hater, Muslim fundy. To try deny reality.

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 07:15 PM

He is invited to Libya in the 80s, and is given an undisclosed amount of money from Colonel Gadaffi.
link?

hadabusa

12-01-2010, 07:16 PM

Brits where not the only ones, the Ottomans, Chinese Japanese don't foegt to wash your knees. Yet they have alsmost one indigenous race in their own land and would not allow the racial make up to change drastically via mass immigration.

(but no one calls them racist add infinitum) But many are.

Islam is an Judaism are not indigenous in Afghanistan, iran, iraq, Inida (most of the indigenous people are Aryans ovarious tones from light to brown)

Ask the Indians and mnay will tell you this is true

no doubt chinese,japanese are pretty racist.
tough no1 really wants2immigrate2china.
but they do have racist/religious tensions(uyghurs).

yes, its a policy thing and deliberatelly done, probably uk needed workforces once, but now,during crisis + liberal immigration policy+eu result in what london looks today.

its similiar in most cities worldwide, imo, also has to do with industrialization process.

dantesinferno

12-01-2010, 07:16 PM

Utter bollox you must be a troll or white hater, Muslim fundy. To try deny reality.

I live in London and have for most of my long life, if all you can resort to is to call me names then your the troll.

Place where I live has a London post code, 80% white, borough next to me 70% non-white, so London is very mixed and not how your trying to say.

purple rain

12-01-2010, 07:18 PM

ES is in an advanced state of meltdown today. Accusing everyone who disagrees of being Muslim, going into overdrive with his videos that he's already spam posted allover the board, and he's changed his avatar thrice in 24 hours.

hadabusa

12-01-2010, 07:19 PM

Not sure about their manifesto and doubt they'd get enough votes we never hear of them in the media (although I rarely follow the news ) they are anti EU, that's all I know.

they trumped labour in elections last year, but i guess too insignificant in parliament:confused:

oioioi

12-01-2010, 07:20 PM

I've told this story (truth) a hundred times on this forum yet I still get called Nazi racist.

Wonder why!

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 07:20 PM

link?Reads like a crock too me, and who cares if some of it is true, like everyones a saint with no past, people change
You could dig up allsorts of crap about the members of the Labour and conservative parties, real bad stuff. Same goes for most politicians in any country so it's no brainer what he posted.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 07:23 PM

I live in London and have for most of my long life, if all you can resort to is to call me names then your the troll.

Place where I live has a London post code, 80% white, borough next to me 70% non-white, so London is very mixed and not how your trying to say.
Okay fair enough just been attacked by trolls all day again, I was bit tetchy sorry.

dantesinferno

12-01-2010, 07:27 PM

Okay fair enough just been attacked by trolls all day again, I was bit tetchy sorry.

OK

seanx

12-01-2010, 07:43 PM

Edwise pirate wrote:
I'm giving facts here and you're just attacking me and going into your usual screaming fit.

I think most people know what you're about, that you're clearly more than a little mentally unhinged, you just don't get challenged on it because you go completely hysterical every five minutes screaming and shouting at people. Maybe people just ignore you. Might be a good idea.

Just let you keep the madness in your own head rather than infect the forum.

Benivenu a mon 'ignore list.'

Au revoir!

I notice you couldn't respond to a single point i made.

Because your points were totally ignorant.

What makes people like you worse is that on other threads you are
trying to stuff your sick christain fundamntalism on the rest of
us.

BTW Have you ever heard of the biblical phrase.......'We are all the
children of God........and that includes BLAck children as well.

AND you are a fucking teacher??

You are actually allowed to teach in school.......a man who
think Polish Workers were the cause of the financial crash!!!!

I think most people know what you're about, that you're clearly more than a little mentally unhinged

Well, I'm in good company then. You believe icke and his ideas are
mentally unhinged - as you never tire of telling us.

but then as a christain fundi you would, wouldn't you.

Btw, you may like to check up the latest census figures for the UK?
And how, despite your ignorant fear mongering, ethnic minorties
make up just 7.2 % of the population.

Which means 90% and more is snow white.

bUT, hey why deal in facts - when you can pick on innocent
little immigrant kids in the poorest parts of london.

Next time you are in 'Bucks..hamshire'........count the no. of
'coloured' faces you'll have to teach.

BTW, you are fucking disgace to teaching - if you are a teacher.
I doubt it.

And, my friend keep me on your ignore button.

By now, I must be on the ignore button of all the BNP race nuts
who troll this forum!

So every cloud has a silver lining!

Though it is a pity we haven't got a ignore button to banish all you
ignorant biogts from this froum!

We live in hope.

eternal wheel

12-01-2010, 08:06 PM

ignorant bigot

that'll be you then.

notice how i corrected your spelling.

cpfc12

12-01-2010, 08:18 PM

Edwise pirate wrote:

I notice you couldn't respond to a single point i made.

Because your points were totally ignorant.

What makes people like you worse is that on other threads you are
trying to stuff your sick christain fundamntalism on the rest of
us.

BTW Have you ever heard of the biblical phrase.......'We are all the
children of God........and that includes BLAck children as well.

AND you are a fucking teacher??

You are actually allowed to teach in school.......a man who
think Polish Workers were the cause of the financial crash!!!!

Well, I'm in good company then. You believe icke and his ideas are
mentally unhinged - as you never tire of telling us.

but then as a christain fundi you would, wouldn't you.

Btw, you may like to check up the latest census figures for the UK?
And how, despite your ignorant fear mongering, ethnic minorties
make up just 7.2 % of the population.

Which means 90% and more is snow white.

bUT, hey why deal in facts - when you can pick on innocent
little immigrant kids in the poorest parts of london.

Next time you are in 'Bucks..hamshire'........count the no. of
'coloured' faces you'll have to teach.

BTW, you are fucking disgace to teaching - if you are a teacher.
I doubt it.

And, my friend keep me on your ignore button.

By now, I must be on the ignore button of all the BNP race nuts
who troll this forum!

So every cloud has a silver lining!

Though it is a pity we haven't got a ignore button to banish all you
ignorant biogts from this froum!

We live in hope.

With all comments aside i posted at Edlweiss (?) it can be tough being a minority in your own country, if you grow up in inner london and are white, there is a strong chance that you will be picked out, mugged, bullied because of your skin colour. And whats worse in all of this is there is no one speaking about this form of racism.
I grew up in south london, although in the suburbs and not as bad as say elephant and castle, peckham etc, you still had trouble, and would experience incidents like that. When i was 12 years old i was picked out and robbed by two black men, due to the factors at the time (can't remember them all now) it was racially motivated. Of course this got me angry, and soon after, my black friend was let off from being mugged, by a black bloke, because of his skin colour, and this was what the mugger told him.

So when you have that happen to you, but then when you go to school or you hear about in citizenship lessons, is of how whites have been the king racists for years etc, its disheartening. Well anyway, i was going down the wrong path, of blaming my problems on black people, and it set the president, that fear was converted into anger, and i felt safe, aiming that anger towards blacks and musilms. But it came to a point, when i was out around some high street, cut long story short and a black boy i knew stopped me from being robbed by two white guys ! this hit the nail in the coffin, and also a policeman in my family ironically enough (despite the stereotype of cops being racist) helped me get out of that negative frame of thinking.

So yeh morale of the story, i emphaphise with those who want to join the BNP, because i know how easy it is, and how little it takes for you to get into that frame of thinking. Is it a coincidence, that those who are the most anti bnp, and join the UAF protests, tend to be middle class students from backgrounds in surrey etc ? how can they judge those people, when they have never grown up in an environment, where there is racial tensions. At the same point despite popular belief, alot of immigrants hate it, they come here to work to bring money back home, and they leave once they have enough ! hell why would you want to grow up in a country, where your kids are going to stand a higher chance of joining gangs and getting involved in drug dealing ??

Also what i find funny lately, is that those who complain about immigration the most (this is going against the stereotypes the bbc put foward) are 3rd generation west indies/south asian immigrants.

seanx

12-01-2010, 08:34 PM

Eternal wheel wrote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanx
ignorant bigot

that'll be you then.

notice how i corrected your spelling.

At least you are good for something on this forum !

Usually you are just moaning telling us how much of a victim you
are as a poor White Briton in your 92% white Britain.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 08:37 PM

Also what i find funny lately, is that those who complain about immigration the most (this is going against the stereotypes the bbc put foward) are 3rd generation west indies/south asian immigrants.
Yeah I have heard the same.
Maybe because some of them do prefer living here and don't want the religious nut jobs fundies, or just plain trouble makers/criminals/illegals due to their culture/way of life arriving to cause trouble

(some may like you say want to earn some money and go back to their own lands)

Asians and blacks also have a history of hatred for eachother.

Some of those you mentioned may have fled from Africa away from persecution from Idi Amin the Muslim black African dictator, thousands came to the UK. Or some other trouble spot.

cpfc12

12-01-2010, 08:45 PM

Yeah I have heard the same.
Maybe because some of them do prefer living here and don't want the religious nut jobs fundies, or just plain trouble makers/criminals/illegals due to their culture/way of life arriving to cause trouble

(some may like you say want to earn some money and go back to their own lands)

Asians and blacks also have a history of hatred for eachother.

Some of those you mentioned may have fled from Africa away from persecution from Idi Amin the Muslim black African dictator, thousands came to the UK. Or some other trouble spot.

True but most of these immigrants are moving to heavily populated areas full of 3rd generation immigrants. places such as peckham, tower hamlets, hackney etc

oink

12-01-2010, 09:34 PM

link?

Just google Griffin and Gaddafi

Here's one.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/Profile-of-Nick-Griffin.php

The meeting was well documented, and has appeared on many documentaries about both Griffen and Gaddafi. It was a funny time to do it as Gaddafi's name was pretty much mud with the patriots in this Country.

By the way, the meeting with Louis Farrakahn is not true, although he did praise the black seperatist in one of his articles.

oink

12-01-2010, 09:54 PM

Reads like a crock too me, and who cares if some of it is true, like everyones a saint with no past, people change
You could dig up allsorts of crap about the members of the Labour and conservative parties, real bad stuff. Same goes for most politicians in any country so it's no brainer what he posted.

It's not about having a past, or people changing. It's about how much power Nick Griffin has in his own Party.
I see him as an ex errand boy who is now unwittingly helping to create his own downfall, to make way for someone far more dangerous. And, that does happen in all parties. These guys, we'll call them "leaders" for arguments sake, believe that they are in control. They have their egos massaged by hidden advisors, and they take the rap when it all goes tits up.

As the BNP was growing in popularity, and throwing off it's racist views to some, what did Mr Griffin do? He makes a statement about capsizing Immigrant's boats. And how does he get out of it? He sits in an interview with Andrew Marr and says that he would throw them life jackets afterwards.
This is a man who is leading a club with a growing membership.

And whether you like it or not, a club that only accepts white people is racist. I don't believe that they should be prosecuted, but that doesn't mean that these guys are open minded.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 09:59 PM

Does it matter? Honestly? I dont know what you're tring to say, I'm not having a go at you oink, just don't see what you're getting at.

BNP will not get enough votes imo, who could defeat Labour, I can see them or the torys maybe getting in. If BNP ever got in, then all I can say is what I said before.

NP are the only party willing to stop mass immigration and the wars abroad, pull the troops out. And want to get out of the EU.

BNP have the same VOLUNTARY repatriation policies as the Labour and former conservative party. (no different, means they won't be forcefully deporting anyone who isn't white, just because of skin tone they may deport illegal immigrants and evil criminals like any other sane country with a government that doesn't betray it's own people.

OMG they are so evil! :rolleyes:
Is that simple and clear enough

So stop your bloomin fear mongering for God's sake!

oioioi

12-01-2010, 10:16 PM

BNP have the same VOLUNTARY repatriation policies as the Labour and former conservative party.

The Labour party also have a 'voluntary' ID card scheme.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 10:17 PM

And what?

It's you PC drones who see racists everywhere....

So we can't even debate illegal immigration now without being called racist?

You're a mind controlled turkey. Welcome to the shit farm.

Facts don't even matter to you do they? Just as long as you can cluck the word racist and lay a big fat shit egg whenever you want.

The PC zombie army are in force on the DI forum aren't they?

Blah fucking blah!
It's not just this thread/topic.

I keep posting absolute truth (facts/reality) on some of my threads/posts on other topics including stuff that have nothing to do with race - and people try deny it's real.

The only answer is we have too many trolls about.

eternal_spirit

12-01-2010, 10:19 PM

The Labour party also have a 'voluntary' ID card scheme.
Right so who the hell do we vote for, UKIP?

oioioi

12-01-2010, 10:23 PM

My point is just because something starts off as voluntary doesn't necessarily mean it won't become compulsory.

I'm an anarchist, I don't vote for anyone.

oink

12-01-2010, 10:24 PM

Does it matter? Honestly?

BNP are the only party willing to stop mass immigration and the wars abroad, pull the troops out. And want to get out of the EU.

BNP have the same VOLUNTARY repatriation policies as the Labour and former conservative party. (no different, means they won't be forcefully deporting anyone who isn't white, just because of skin tone they may deport illegal immigrants and evil criminals like any other sane country with a government that doesn't betray it's own people.

OMG they are so evil! :rolleyes:
Is that simple and clear enough

So stop your bloomin fear mongering for God's sake!First of all, you say that the BNP are the only Party willing to stop mass immigration, then you say that their repatriation policies are exactly the same as Labour and Conservative.
As for the foreign wars? I can't disagree on that front. However, Nick Griffin has said that Islam breeds mass murderers, of which is the same mentality behind those who support the war in Afghanistan. And what Politicians say outside of power is not usually acted upon once they're in power.

I am not fear mongering. Nor am I stating that the BNP are more evil than any other party. The Labour Party for example are an extremelly evil and racist Party. They spread fear and hatred, plus they are turning this Country into a Police State.

In the Panorama interview, Nick Griffin lets slip that he would rather that non whites were "not here at all". He has since tamed his language to that of "black people are not ethnically English". That sounds like a man obsessed with race in my opinion, and that philosophy points in the direction of Eugenics. The BNP is also still a whites only Party, the support of which can only be given by those who have an obsession with race. Funnily enough, I call those kinds of people Racists.

the nine

13-01-2010, 10:40 AM

Just google Griffin and Gaddafi

Here's one.

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/the-real-bnp/Profile-of-Nick-Griffin.php

The meeting was well documented, and has appeared on many documentaries about both Griffen and Gaddafi. It was a funny time to do it as Gaddafi's name was pretty much mud with the patriots in this Country.

By the way, the meeting with Louis Farrakahn is not true, although he did praise the black seperatist in one of his articles.

so he met gadaffi and praised a black sepratist....is he racist?
I thought racists hated people who are different race to themselves ??:confused:

shinobi

13-01-2010, 11:54 AM

Can anyone find an equivalent to this on the website of any other political party?? Please post a link.

These people are talking about genuine threats to our future security, and what to do about it. Who else is?

http://bnp.org.uk/category/peak-oil/

seanx

13-01-2010, 01:13 PM

Nine wrote:
so he met gadaffi and praised a black sepratist....is he racist?
I thought racists hated people who are different race to themselves

Why then did the the BNP ONLY ALLOW WHITE PEOPLE to join it's party
until it was forced by law to allow all people in.

I know you BNP people are a bit slow - but surely even that is a
good hint.

A bit of a give away -No!

Also -one day - try meeting and talking to few of them when they
are off guard i.e. in the pub and find out their true motivation for
power: it ALL centers around race and creating a whites-only Britain.

Or watch a recent documntary that was made entitled BNP WIVES,
a docu about the wives of ordinary BNP rgional leaders.

These women clearly hadn't been trained in spin language - and
the utter HATE and contempt they have for the non-whites in their
community is extraordinary and sad.

And Like all the bnp - they are obsessed with one thing, not the
illuminati - they wouldn't know what that was - but with race.

Go on and watch.

it might help you wake up from your naiveity and innoncence.

the nine

13-01-2010, 01:49 PM

Nine wrote:

Why then did the the BNP ONLY ALLOW WHITE PEOPLE to join it's party
until it was forced by law to allow all people in.

I know you BNP people are a bit slow - but surely even that is a
good hint.

A bit of a give away -No!

Also -one day - try meeting and talking to few of them when they
are off guard i.e. in the pub and find out their true motivation for
power: it ALL centers around race and creating a whites-only Britain.

Or watch a recent documntary that was made entitled BNP WIVES,
a docu about the wives of ordinary BNP rgional leaders.

These women clearly hadn't been trained in spin language - and
the utter HATE and contempt they have for the non-whites in their
community is extraordinary and sad.

And Like all the bnp - they are obsessed with one thing, not the
illuminati - they wouldn't know what that was - but with race.

Go on and watch.

it might help you wake up from your naiveity and innoncence.

you posted previously that your hatred for the bnp stems from being 'chubbed' by a member, whilst in london..that is fate..if you had been 'chubbed' by a non-white person then you would probably be an avid member of the bnp by your reasoning..

anyway, I digress,
I AM NOT A BNP MEMBER NOR A SUPPORTER!

I have not even read their manifesto, but i have watched some news clips of him where he stated that, people had lost their jobs beacsue they were BNP members..
the party had been set up as an ethnic minority party, an idiginous people party, to protect people from the law which allowed this to happen.
he said if they allowed anyone into their party, they would not be afforded the protection, given unde the ethnic minority clause.
he stated many times, when they change the law, he will change the party policy to allow all british born people into their party.

I am not saying there are no racists in the bnp, there are probably stealth racists in every party and organisation in all races.

I think they are the ONLY party to PUBLICALLY OPPOSE the CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM and CARBON TAX SWINDLE..

why dont you speak of these issue, as this is what attracts me to the BNP, I think they could be a vehicle to bring the real issue into the MSM..
but people like you, who maybe scared, just want to obfuscate these issues by banging on and on about the race issue..
RELAX they will NEVER get the seat of power in this country..lets use them for our messages..they are the ONLY mouthpeice we have on the MSM..

konik

13-01-2010, 01:57 PM

. . . . mass immigration forces out the white indigenous people from places that not so long ago (10 years or so) where majority white and other places all white areas that have now become what looks like a foreign country. . . . .

the British people have been ethnically cleansed from Peckham
Mile end road, Brixton, New Cross, Clapham,Wandsworth, Hackney(the murder mile),Ealing to name a few London areas are the same or even worse than this. Slough, Southall, Bradford.

aside from the main debate it is relevant to point out this is a massive oversimplification. the word 'force' suggests that the white populations had no choice in the matter whereas in actual fact they chose to abandon swathes of the territories you mention for what they thought was a better life in outlying suburbs and boroughs . . . this is a simple matter of economics
as can be witnessed from the current situation where newer arrivals are leaving central london boroughs as the white middle class moves back in because they are the only ones who can pay the artificially inflated housing costs
resulting from the glut of money paid in wages and bonuses to capitalisms high fliers

oioioi

13-01-2010, 02:03 PM

I think they are the ONLY party to PUBLICALLY OPPOSE the CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM and CARBON TAX SWINDLE..

why dont you speak of these issue, as this is what attracts me to the BNP, I think they could be a vehicle to bring the real issue into the MSM..
but people like you, who maybe scared, just want to obfuscate these issues by banging on and on about the race issue..
RELAX they will NEVER get the seat of power in this country..lets use them for our messages..they are the ONLY mouthpeice we have on the MSM..

You're being ironic right?

shinobi

13-01-2010, 02:22 PM

I would like to ask all those banging on about racism to read the BNP's policies below and do one of these two things:

1) Copy and paste the section you consider racist into a reply on this thread, explaining your reasoning.

OR:

2) Shut up about racism and focus on the real issues.

BNP policies from http://bnp.org.uk/policies/

IMMIGRATION – time to say ENOUGH!

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years.

To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question.

We will abolish the ‘positive discrimination’ schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of ‘asylum seekers’, all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

EUROPE – back to British independence!

We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket – political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain’s family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.

LAW AND ORDER – crack down on crime!

The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the ‘rights’ of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

ECONOMY – British workers first!

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour’s statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes

EDUCATION – discipline, standards, achievement!

We are against the ‘trendy’ teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.

AGRICULTURE – quality before quantity!

We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain’s farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation’s need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain’s once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.

HEALTH – first-class healthcare for all!

We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention – low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.

TRANSPORT – time to invest!

Increased investment is needed in Britain’s public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.

ENVIRONMENT – a cleaner, greener future!

Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. “The polluter pays to clean up the mess” must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.

FOREIGN AID – time to spend our money on our own people!

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.

PENSIONERS – pensioners before asylum seekers!

The conditions in which many of Britain’s old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.

NORTHERN IRELAND – an end to sectarianism!

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism – from whatever side – once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

DEFENCE – no more cuts!

Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain’s armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain’s armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling ‘peace-keeping’ missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake – a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS – Britain’s interests first!

Britain’s foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations’ internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the ‘international community’, or any other country.

DEMOCRACY – letting the people decide!

The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct ‘elite’ which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level.

Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.

oioioi

13-01-2010, 02:33 PM

drakul

13-01-2010, 02:44 PM

It does seem strange that ethnic `minorities' are allowed to have their own exclusive political groups but NOT white people. Isn't this a way of dis-enfranchising whites into 2nd class citizen status?

the nine

13-01-2010, 03:18 PM

You're being ironic right?

no
would you care to elaborate for me?

oioioi

13-01-2010, 03:22 PM

no
would you care to elaborate for me?

See my last post.

the nine

13-01-2010, 03:44 PM

We'll shut up about racism (what happened to the BNP and their stance on free speech?) when they stop being a political party set up by racists who try to project an image of serious political types, by attaching themselves to any issue the mainstream parties won't touch just in order to get a few more votes, thus allowing them to forge ahead with their real agenda.
see here..
Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.

See my last post.

well I have just read the entire post by shenobi (post 194), if this is the full BNP manifesto, with no hidden extra's, then I dont know what all the fuss is about?

there will probably be racists within the BNP,but like i said before , there are probably stealth racists in ALL political parties and in ALL races.

you say you will stop banging on about racism when they stop being a party set up by racists..
how can they NOT be set upas a party when they already are an established party?

what if they genuinely want to change?
should they be allowed to?
would you EVER believe them?
do actions speak louder than words?
how can a real change happen if its never given a chance?

oioioi

13-01-2010, 03:57 PM

you say you will stop banging on about racism when they stop being a party set up by racists..
how can they NOT be set upas a party when they already are an established party?

Damn, I hadn't thought of that :p ;) :D

the nine

13-01-2010, 04:04 PM

Damn, I hadn't thought of that :p ;) :D

you say you will stop banging on about racism when they stop being a party set up by racists..
how can they NOT be set upas a party when they already are an established party?
what if they genuinely want to change?
should they be allowed to?
would you EVER believe them?
do actions speak louder than words?
how can a real change happen if its never given a chance?

nice splice

:D

mikey mikey

13-01-2010, 04:05 PM

I think what may be getting overlooked here is that BNP= Cunts.

oioioi

13-01-2010, 04:11 PM

Mister nine, I refer you to mikey's eloquent point.

the nine

13-01-2010, 04:20 PM

I think what may be getting overlooked here is that BNP= Cunts.

I will go one better, and also show you the true versatility of the posting options..

ALL POLITICIANS = CUNTS

now, you have more options for colouring in etc..you can play for hours..
hope this helps

the nine

13-01-2010, 04:21 PM

Mister nine, I refer you to mikey's eloquent point.

reffer to my last post ;)

mikey mikey

13-01-2010, 04:36 PM

I will go one better, and also show you the true versatility of the posting options..

ALL POLITICIANS = CUNTS

now, you have more options for colouring in etc..you can play for hours..
hope this helps

I heartily concur. I only feel the need to add the word "fucking" in the penultimate position.

eternal_spirit

13-01-2010, 04:41 PM

see here..

well I have just read the entire post by shenobi (post 194), if this is the full BNP manifesto, with no hidden extra's, then I dont know what all the fuss is about?

Yes thanks for that shenobi (It's like I have been saying for months, yet some don't believe I was being honest, I don't lie with my posts) They'd rather think I am a liar and call me racist etc etc etc 1000's of times. They are OFTEN just showing their own prejudices and racism towards whites.

seanx

13-01-2010, 04:50 PM

Nine wrote:
you posted previously that your hatred for the bnp stems from being 'chubbed' by a member, whilst in london..that is fate..if you had been 'chubbed' by a non-white person then you would probably be an avid member of the bnp by your reasoning..

Don't be so silly.

BTW, I wouldn't regard getting 10 stitches from a bottle in the the face from
one of your supporters simply because I was irish as a mere clubbing.

You don't seem to get the point.

The bnp was established for racist reasons.

Their goal is to create an all-white Britian.

Even they don't deny it.

It is in their constitution.

Go on - ask any Bnp worker why they are in politics.

But from my point of view, it is quite scary how easy they are
able to fool you.

No wonder Hilter was able to fool the Germans so easily!

I AM NOT A BNP MEMBER NOR A SUPPORTER!

Everyone of your posts here is a pathetic excuse to defend them.

Have you read the thread on the BNP here?

And the the videos of THEIR LEADERS admitting that they will
'keep quiet' on the race issue until they establish themselves and they
will 'focus' on OTHER ISSUES to gain support.

And look how well this 'stratergy' is working on you!

the party had been set up as an ethnic minority party, an idiginous people party, to protect people from the law which allowed this to happen. he said if they allowed anyone into their party, they would not be afforded the protection, given unde the ethnic minority clause.
he stated many times, when they change the law, he will change the party policy to allow all british born people into their party.

Another defence of the bnp?

Could you explain what you mean by ethnic minority party and the term,
idiginous people party??

In other words = white.

If YOU read the thread here on BNP, there is a quote from their secret
action plan to their workers where they are no longer to use the word
white - but to substitute it with ethnic minority or 'idiginous people ' -as these phrases are more
voter friendly!!

Tell me: how many black britions would qulaify under these terms!

The answer: ZERO!

I think they are the ONLY party to PUBLICALLY OPPOSE the CLIMATE CHANGE SCAM and CARBON TAX SWINDLE..

why dont you speak of these issue, as this is what attracts me to the BNP, I think they could be a vehicle to bring the real issue into the MSM..
but people like you, who maybe scared, just want to obfuscate these issues by banging on and on about the race issue..
RELAX they will NEVER get the seat of power in this country..lets use them for our messages..they are the ONLY mouthpeice we have on the MSM..

Why?

DON'T BE SO NAIVE.

Where do they say this?

In their manifesto - to GAIN votes?

Well, it must be true then?

You must be one of the few people to believe a political party's
manifesto!

I suppose if you had been born in Germany, you would have supported
the nazi party because they say 'they love the environment.'
Anyway WHO says the nazis are racists - and anyway they will never
get into power!!

That.............seems to be your logic.

I'll end with one last point, but it is probably a waste of time.

If a Political party does not have respect for some human beings simply
because, in their opinion they are the WRONG colour or ethnic origin,
do you really believe they have the empathy to have respect
for the environment.

I am out of here . it is a waste of time and energy.

hadabusa

13-01-2010, 04:58 PM

corporal punishment?:eek::eek::eek:

the nine

13-01-2010, 05:50 PM

Nine wrote:

Don't be so silly.

BTW, I wouldn't regard getting 10 stitches from a bottle in the the face from
one of your supporters simply because I was irish as a mere clubbing.

not one on MY supporters..I ahve no fans or supporters

You don't seem to get the point.

The bnp was established for racist reasons.

Their goal is to create an all-white Britian.

Even they don't deny it.

It is in their constitution.

I have personally not seen this sean..
it would be nice if you could occasionally back up your sentances with proof..
links would be quite nice.

Go on - ask any Bnp worker why they are in politics.

i dont know any BNP workers..sorry

But from my point of view, it is quite scary how easy they are
able to fool you.

they dont fool me, (I think) I ahev said ALL along they will never get the seat of power in THIS country.
but we could use THEM as a tool.

No wonder Hilter was able to fool the Germans so easily!

dont understand the relevence..sorry

Everyone of your posts here is a pathetic excuse to defend them.

again, I think we could use them..they are a MSM voice, they could force issues which have been taboo into the masses psyche..but it would take courage and faith in the people of this country..which clearly so many poster who shout 'racist' havent got.

Have you read the thread on the BNP here?

no

And the the videos of THEIR LEADERS admitting that they will
'keep quiet' on the race issue until they establish themselves and they
will 'focus' on OTHER ISSUES to gain support.

but dont you see..there more support they get, the more watered down the hard line issues become..voters perogative!

And look how well this 'stratergy' is working on you!

why, because I am not shouting 'racists' and throwing eggs?

Another defence of the bnp?

Could you explain what you mean by ethnic minority party and the term,
idiginous people party??

In other words = white.

I was quoting what nick griffen said on a news clip as to why he had a whites only policy regarding membership..
but your cut and pasting of my post is misleading..
a tip..why not quote the whole post and highlight the section you are referring to..that way, the context will remain valid :)

If YOU read the thread here on BNP, there is a quote from their secret
action plan to their workers where they are no longer to use the word
white - but to substitute it with ethnic minority or 'idiginous people ' -as these phrases are more
voter friendly!!

that may well be the case..but it could also have been a way of removing the racism from the minds of the voters/members, in order to change the hardline policys of the party in a positive way..perhaps?
there are always two ways of looking at things..its about the choices you make.

Tell me: how many black britions would qulaify under these terms!

The answer: ZERO!

sounds like you want me to answer the same as you..
but they have dopped their 'whites' only membership..so the answer is NOT zero now..it could be a considerable amount, if they only trusted the voting masses and the typical british psyche, and used them as a tool for exposing the corruption!!

Why?

DON'T BE SO NAIVE.

Where do they say this?

In their manifesto - to GAIN votes?

here is an example of proving a link for people to see for themselves..
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
try clicking it..you may be supprised at the content..nick griffen openly exposing the CON what is going on to the european parliment..
this is what draws me to listen to them..they could be a very useful tool, if we worked together to use them to force issues on the MSM.
Well, it must be true then?

You must be one of the few people to believe a political party's
manifesto!
why do you suppose that??

I suppose if you had been born in Germany, you would have supported
the nazi party because they say 'they love the environment.'
Anyway WHO says the nazis are racists - and anyway they will never
get into power!!

That.............seems to be your logic.

if I had been born in germany and spoke english, I would still probably be here posting on the davi icke forums..
the 'nazi' party in germany are now usually just, disenfranchised adolescents rebelling againsts their parents..why would I want to support them?

I'll end with one last point, but it is probably a waste of time.

no problem..go on..

If a Political party does not have respect for some human beings simply
because, in their opinion they are the WRONG colour or ethnic origin,
do you really believe they have the empathy to have respect
for the environment.

well first, I am NOT a mind reader, but I will give you my opinion.
I would assume by 'WRONG' you mean..dislike or hate?
if so, people who hate other people, I would assume that they 'are' capable of respecting their environment, but they maybe have some personal issues with fear..

I am out of here . it is a waste of time and energy.
ok bye,
I hope I helped clear up some of your opinions of me and the reasons I have posted in threads such as this..
because in short..I am sick of all the shouts of racist..and bickering between people here in the DI forum

I agree people are entitled to their views..but please people..change the record..its like some have an agenda to tar any thread RACIST which use the letters B N and P together..
we all knwo they started out with racist roots..but encourage change..use your intellect in a positive way..lets see where it can lead us..

peace and love to all :)

the nine

13-01-2010, 05:52 PM

corporal punishment?:eek::eek::eek:

ok.. that bit is wrong..slipped past:o

the nine

13-01-2010, 05:54 PM

I heartily concur. I only feel the need to add the word "fucking" in the penultimate position.

I agree..this would be more apt..point taken :)

hadabusa

13-01-2010, 05:55 PM

ok.. that bit is wrong..slipped past:o

hm, actually,its in the manifesto:confused:

do ppl realize what it is?:confused:

eternal_spirit

13-01-2010, 06:01 PM

hm, actually,its in the manifesto:confused:

do ppl realize what it is?:confused:
Death for certain criminals..what kind of crimes would cover this? capital punishment was only banned during the 1950s or even later?

eternal_spirit

13-01-2010, 06:04 PM

I think some hate the BNP so much because if they got voted in they know their free hand outs and preferential treatment of their ethnicity and religions over the indigenous people would be over.

They'd have problems bringing their 4 wives and 20 kids from other countries here. Which would dash their plans for more Islamisation.

The illegals and foreign run criminal gangs on the make would be deported and banned from re-entry.

Bogus asylum seekers would not be allowed here after passing through a dozen or so countries (would have to beg asylum in the first safe country they arrived at, which is the law) and would have to put up with less benefits and freebies that they can con out of hard working British citizens.

cpfc12

13-01-2010, 06:06 PM

If anything we need more immigrants in this country, it makes it more exciting and diverse"

eternal_spirit

13-01-2010, 06:13 PM

If anything we need more immigrants in this country, it makes it more exciting and diverse"
Is that sarcasm? It makes it more dangerous for those allready here what ever race they are chances of employment and a drain on the economy, National health service, education, housing, lower wages, basically a lower standard of living (how much lower can we go, many struggle as it is)

I think your point would apply better to China, Japan, Malaysia, some African countries, Saudi, Indonesia, Korea, Turkey, and others which are entirely or mostly made up of one racial groups/religion and culture.

seanx

13-01-2010, 06:18 PM

To nine..

A sad response.

Eevry line of your post a defense of this racist party.

I have personally not seen this sean..
it would be nice if you could occasionally back up your sentances with proof..
links would be quite nice.

Since you have come on to this forum - GO to the threads
where this is discussed.

That's why there is a search engine here.

You have been told this on numerous occassions - but it is clear
you don't want to do this - as your ignorance on this issue would be exposed.

What is your excuse for not researching the truth?

but they have dopped their 'whites' only membership..so the answer is NOT zero now..it could be a considerable amount, if they only trusted the voting masses and the typical british psyche, and used them as a tool for exposing the corruption!!

So the answer is not zero now!!!!!!!

So black people or Asian people will now be classify as part of the
original anglo-sazon tribe!

You clearly can't disguish between the fact that they have been forced
to let non-whites .....and their political OBJECTIVES ....!!

Again read THEIR documents!

The answer is ZERO. ie. NOT A SINGLE BLACK OR Asian person
would qualify to be regared as a true 'Brition'. And thus have
any automatic rights to remain in their OWN country!

if I had been born in germany and spoke english, I would still probably be here posting on the davi icke forums..
the 'nazi' party in germany are now usually just, disenfranchised adolescents rebelling againsts their parents..why would I want to support them?

I'm talking about the Nazi party and A certain Mr. Hilter. It was
a political anology.

Sorry, can I be honest .....what age are you?......or what is your level
of education?

On final question.

We have lots of black members on this forum who are also
passionate on climate change?

Could you tell them why just because
of the COLOUR of the skin, they were not able to join the bnp?

the nine

13-01-2010, 06:20 PM

hm, actually,its in the manifesto:confused:

do ppl realize what it is?:confused:

dont trust DNA certainties..anything can be planted..there will always be corruption in law and order..

whats wrong with life in jail..and good behaviour will bring priveleges not reduced sentances..?

hadabusa

13-01-2010, 06:39 PM

Death for certain criminals..what kind of crimes would cover this? capital punishment was only banned during the 1950s or even later?

i mean its no better then sharia punishment "if you become like them"etc:confused:

and as nine said, horrible if innocent ppl get punishment this way:eek:

the nine

13-01-2010, 06:47 PM

To nine..
[QUOTE]
A sad response.

Eevry line of your post a defense of this racist party.

Since you have come on to this forum - GO to the threads
where this is discussed.

That's why there is a search engine here.

You have been told this on numerous occassions - but it is clear
you don't want to do this - as your ignorance on this issue would be exposed.

What is your excuse for not researching the truth?

you want me to go looking, doing your leg work to prove YOUR case?

seriously????

So the answer is not zero now!!!!!!!

yes..thats what I said..not anymore..they have allegedly changed!

So black people or Asian people will now be classify as part of the
original anglo-sazon tribe!

why are you so obssessed about blacks and asians?
ther are a great many more ethnicities in these isles..

You clearly can't disguish between the fact that they have been forced
to let non-whites .....and their political OBJECTIVES ....!!
change is change..it can be either good or bad, it is down to how the individual is afected and their own interpretation as to how the chose to view it.

Again read THEIR documents!
why should I?
I am neither a supporter or a member..

The answer is ZERO. ie. NOT A SINGLE BLACK OR Asian person
would qualify to be regared as a true 'Brition'. And thus have
any automatic rights to remain in their OWN country!

again..here you go again..only blacks and asian people are important to you, clearly..you have never once mentioned the chinease or japanease or any orientals..what about arabs or eastern europeans? what about russians?
what about south americans? or even eskimoes..they all reside here but ther voice to you is irrelevent..you could be called a racist for omitting their rights in this thread..!!!

I'm talking about the Nazi party and A certain Mr. Hilter. It was
a political anology.
so you mean going back in time?
to the days when there was NO internet and your political views could get you arrested or even killed..do you think you would have stood upto the brown coats..who incidentally could realistically be compared to the actions of the UAF.

Sorry, can I be honest .....what age are you?......or what is your level
of education?

I hope you can..
so, what is the relevence of these two questions?

On final question.

ok fire away

We have lots of black members on this forum who are also
passionate on climate change?

Could you tell them why just because
of the COLOUR of the skin, they were not able to join the bnp?

what the colour of your skin has to do with anything I dont know..but here goes..

READ POST 191 IN THIS THREAD..

is that ok?

but the fact that they CAN now join the BNP if they so choose seems to be moot to you..?

why dont YOU join them, then you can let us all on the forum here know what is happening within the party..?

hope this helps :)

eternal wheel

13-01-2010, 07:22 PM

Usually you are just moaning telling us how much of a victim you
are as a poor White Briton in your 92% white Britain.
me? a victim? no mate!!
as an aside, are you aware of the colour of my skin?
by the tone of your posts you are assuming i'm 'white' just because i support the bnp's right to exist?
doesn't that expose your underlying racism?

"your bnp", "bnp mouthpiece" etc, etc.....:rolleyes:

eternal wheel

13-01-2010, 07:25 PM

I think what may be getting overlooked here is that BNP= Cunts.
are you still here?
isn't it time for your bath?
off you go, up the wooden hill.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

dantesinferno

13-01-2010, 07:29 PM

are you still here?
isn't it time for your bath?
off you go, up the wooden hill.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

lol funny fucker :D

the nine

13-01-2010, 07:40 PM

are you still here?
isn't it time for your bath?
off you go, up the wooden hill.....:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
lol that took me back..

lol funny fucker :D
+1

oioioi

13-01-2010, 08:16 PM

the nine

13-01-2010, 08:23 PM

It would seem there are two schools of thought:
1)those that believe the BNP was set up by racists for racist purposes
2)those that believe the BNP was set up by racists for other purposes

Spot the common denominator?

As for aligning the truth movement with them....my enemies enemy is still a bunch of racists!

or set up by racists, but could be used as tool for getting taboo subjects into the MSM....so 3 schools of thought then..still a common denominator to spot..

if one has no weapons with which to fight the enemy..then using a weapon which was created for use on youself is better then empty hands, even if the smell is unpleasent! imho.

oioioi

13-01-2010, 08:25 PM

or set up by racists, but could be used as tool for getting taboo subjects into the MSM....so 3 schools of thought then..still a common denominator to spot..

if one has no weapons with which to fight the enemy..then using a weapon which was created for use on youself is better then empty hands, even if the smell is unpleasent! imho.

So you are comparing the BNP to a shitty stick, couldn't put it better myself.

edelweiss pirate

13-01-2010, 08:26 PM

With all comments aside i posted at Edlweiss (?) it can be tough being a minority in your own country, if you grow up in inner london and are white, there is a strong chance that you will be picked out, mugged, bullied because of your skin colour. And whats worse in all of this is there is no one speaking about this form of racism.
I grew up in south london, although in the suburbs and not as bad as say elephant and castle, peckham etc, you still had trouble, and would experience incidents like that. When i was 12 years old i was picked out and robbed by two black men, due to the factors at the time (can't remember them all now) it was racially motivated. Of course this got me angry, and soon after, my black friend was let off from being mugged, by a black bloke, because of his skin colour, and this was what the mugger told him.

So when you have that happen to you, but then when you go to school or you hear about in citizenship lessons, is of how whites have been the king racists for years etc, its disheartening. Well anyway, i was going down the wrong path, of blaming my problems on black people, and it set the president, that fear was converted into anger, and i felt safe, aiming that anger towards blacks and musilms. But it came to a point, when i was out around some high street, cut long story short and a black boy i knew stopped me from being robbed by two white guys ! this hit the nail in the coffin, and also a policeman in my family ironically enough (despite the stereotype of cops being racist) helped me get out of that negative frame of thinking.

So yeh morale of the story, i emphaphise with those who want to join the BNP, because i know how easy it is, and how little it takes for you to get into that frame of thinking. Is it a coincidence, that those who are the most anti bnp, and join the UAF protests, tend to be middle class students from backgrounds in surrey etc ? how can they judge those people, when they have never grown up in an environment, where there is racial tensions. At the same point despite popular belief, alot of immigrants hate it, they come here to work to bring money back home, and they leave once they have enough ! hell why would you want to grow up in a country, where your kids are going to stand a higher chance of joining gangs and getting involved in drug dealing ??
.

I've never been robbed or done over by any black person or anyone from a different ethnic background.

It's not about that. DUDE! I've nothing against anyone whatever their colour race or whatevers...

I just finished dating a lovely big black momma, she was cool, I buy my weed from a cool bunch of Pakistanis, I'm totally muticultural, I have also lived in various middle eastern countries, totally without getting involved in race related incidents...

The point is why does the UK need endless immigration? What purpose does it really serve?

It serves no purpose to those of us (black, white, pink and green) who already live here. It just puts all our wages down....

I honestly think that there is no need for any fruther immigration.

Why are the western countries being systematically stripped of any core ethnic identity?

It's obvious.... It allows the Illuminati to play on racial tensions to create new 'anti free speech' laws, it allows them to move their pawns into countries and hide them in the patchwork of society.

It also fragments the voice of the country into a carcophony of different opinions, all like legs of a pantomime horse unable to pull in the same direction and face the governement. So we will be fucked every which way but loose again and again because we even as a mutlicultutal society we more and more get to the point where we have nothing in common with our neighbours. Many of them don't even speak English and never mix with white poeple?

What's it all about?

International marxism! Feed the poor of the world at the expense of the rich.

IE We educate and feed and house the poor of the world who flock to our door at the expense of traditional British society and the welfare of those whose families have lived in these Isles for centuries.....

That's all it is. It's closet international communism and they're very clever that very few people so far seem to have noticed.

the nine

13-01-2010, 08:26 PM

So you are comparing the BNP to a shitty stick, couldn't put it better myself.

excellent point..i just couldnt put my finger on it..;)

cpfc12

13-01-2010, 09:08 PM

I've never been robbed or done over by any black person or anyone from a different ethnic background.

It's not about that. DUDE! I've nothing against anyone whatever their colour race or whatevers...

I just finished dating a lovely big black momma, she was cool, I buy my weed from a cool bunch of Pakistanis, I'm totally muticultural, I have also lived in various middle eastern countries, totally without getting involved in race related incidents...

The point is why does the UK need endless immigration? What purpose does it really serve?

It serves no purpose to those of us (black, white, pink and green) who already live here. It just puts all our wages down....

I honestly think that there is no need for any fruther immigration.

Why are the western countries being systematically stripped of any core ethnic identity?

It's obvious.... It allows the Illuminati to play on racial tensions to create new 'anti free speech' laws, it allows them to move their pawns into countries and hide them in the patchwork of society.

It also fragments the voice of the country into a carcophony of different opinions, all like legs of a pantomime horse unable to pull in the same direction and face the governement. So we will be fucked every which way but loose again and again because we even as a mutlicultutal society we more and more get to the point where we have nothing in common with our neighbours. Many of them don't even speak English and never mix with white poeple?

What's it all about?

International marxism! Feed the poor of the world at the expense of the rich.

IE We educate and feed and house the poor of the world who flock to our door at the expense of traditional British society and the welfare of those whose families have lived in these Isles for centuries.....

That's all it is. It's closet international communism and they're very clever that very few people so far seem to have noticed.

fair enough
pakistani weed dealers ??
You come from east london/essex way right ?
Rough guess, chingford ?

edelweiss pirate

13-01-2010, 09:11 PM

fair enough
pakistani weed dealers ??
You come from east london/essex way right ?
Rough guess, chingford ?

East London..... right on the doorstep of the city of London.

seanx

13-01-2010, 09:13 PM

Nine wrote:

Quote:
So the answer is not zero now!!!!!!!

yes..thats what I said..not anymore..they have allegedly changed!

Sorry how have they changed

Their goals or consitution have not changed.

So, how have they changed?

Quote:
So black people or Asian people will now be classify as part of the
original anglo-sazon tribe!

why are you so obssessed about blacks and asians?
ther are a great many more ethnicities in these isles..

Don't be so silly or juvenile.

I'm using them as an example only. As they are the people that the
bnp usually beat the shit out of most weekend nights .

However could you answer the question?

again..here you go again..only blacks and asian people are important to you, clearly..you have never once mentioned the chinease or japanease or any orientals..what about arabs or eastern europeans? what about russians?
what about south americans? or even eskimoes..they all reside here but ther voice to you is irrelevent..you could be called a racist for omitting their rights in this thread..!!!

Maybe you could help me answer the question?

Chinese, Japanease people would NOT have been able to join the BNP -
BECAUSE they are not WHITE.

Could you tell me why this is?

It is a simple question.

Why do the BNP use COLOUR as the deciding factor
on who can and can't join????

Eastern Europeans who were WHITE were perfectly free to join.
They were many East Germans who were and are members

However black Europeans were FORBIDDEN from joining.

So once again, since you claim bnp are not racist, could you
explain why this is.

I mean you don't have to be Einstein to see a pattern here.

Then I asked you:

We have lots of black members on this forum who are also
passionate on climate change?Could you tell them why
just because of the COLOUR of the skin, they were not able to join the bnp?

You gave me no answer.

Instead you quoted the BNP's standard press release when they
are asked this question.

This answer you gave is available on their website.

You tell us you're not a member - so why not answer in your own words.

it is a simple question?

I'm sure all the non-whites members of the dave icke site would
love to know!

Also, can you tell me of any other genuine climate change party -
ANYWHERE in the world who uses COLOUR as the basis of who can and
can't join them and campaign to save the environment?

And if you did, would you consider thm racist?

but the fact that they CAN now join the BNP if they so choose seems to be moot to you..?

Again, utter nonsense.

They were FORCED, screaming and shouting by law and PUBLIC
OPINION to change this rule.

BTW, can you tell me how many non-white members this 'party'
has???

Are you seeing a 'pattern' here?

seanx

13-01-2010, 09:27 PM

edelweiss pirate wrote:

Why are the western countries being systematically stripped of any core ethnic identity?

More hysterical dribble from this guy.

Well, if this is the case, they are not doing a very good job of it.

Britain is still 92% ethnic white!!!

Despite what you read from all the fanatics on this site, who see
disaster everywhere, ethnic minorities make up just 7.2% of
UK population.

Even all the millions of Poles have gone back to their own country!

Could it be that all this immigration is just economically -driven,
and not some sinister plan to swamp Britain.

paolo

13-01-2010, 10:00 PM

Could it be that all this immigration is just economically -driven,
and not some sinister plan to swamp Britain.

I wonder because I wrote the landmark speech given by then immigration minister Barbara Roche in September 2000, calling for a loosening of controls. It marked a major shift from the policy of previous governments: from 1971 onwards, only foreigners joining relatives already in the UK had been permitted to settle here.

That speech was based largely on a report by the Performance and Innovation Unit, Tony Blair's Cabinet Office think-tank.

The PIU's reports were legendarily tedious within Whitehall but their big immigration report was surrounded by an unusual air of both anticipation and secrecy.

Drafts were handed out in summer 2000 only with extreme reluctance: there was a paranoia about it reaching the media.

Eventually published in January 2001, the innocuously labelled "RDS Occasional Paper no. 67", "Migration: an economic and social analysis" focused heavily on the labour market case.

But the earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.

I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn't its main purpose - to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far.

Ministers were very nervous about the whole thing. For despite Roche's keenness to make her big speech and to be upfront, there was a reluctance elsewhere in government to discuss what increased immigration would mean, above all for Labour's core white working-class vote.

This shone through even in the published report: the "social outcomes" it talks about are solely those for immigrants.

And this first-term immigration policy got no mention among the platitudes on the subject in Labour's 1997 manifesto, headed Faster, Firmer, Fairer.

The results were dramatic. In 1995, 55,000 foreigners were granted the right to settle in the UK. By 2005 that had risen to 179,000; last year, with immigration falling thanks to the recession, it was 148,000.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23760073-dont-listen-to-the-whingers---london-needs-immigrants.do

seanx

13-01-2010, 10:17 PM

But the earlier drafts I saw also included a driving political purpose: that mass immigration was the way that the Government was going to make the UK truly multicultural.

I remember coming away from some discussions with the clear sense that the policy was intended - even if this wasn't its main purpose - to rub the Right's nose in diversity and render their arguments out of date. That seemed to me to be a manoeuvre too far

But that doEs not seem to be a fact, it's a 'feeling' she came away with.

But if what she's say is correct - then the right, by which no doubt
she means the Tories - then that policy is going to end with the
tory party in May

But come on - if this is a real policy - haven't they failed miserably?

Ethnic minorities 7.2% White ethnic Britain 92%

And the 'right' soon to be back in power in UK.

Isn't it just more scare -mongering along with all the nonsense about
swine flu.

paolo

13-01-2010, 10:35 PM

Well, it's a he - Andrew Neather, former Blair speech writer, and latterly writer for the scurrilous Standard.
I don't support the BNP, I think the hierarchy contains some nasty pieces of work, and almost certainly some intelligence agents
However I do think that in the guise of diversity and multiculturalism, the aim is to create a monochrome monocultural cheap labour pool, and the abused white male is and has been centrally demonised and oppressed, culturally, in order to achieve this
This resentment feeds into the BNP's agenda quite nicely

oink

13-01-2010, 11:04 PM

so he met gadaffi and praised a black sepratist....is he racist?
I thought racists hated people who are different race to themselves ??:confused:

The story about his hunt for funding from Gadaffi was never meant to show him as a racist. It was just a story showing him as an errand boy for whoever controls the far right groups. My point about him praising farrakhan was to go against the Daily Mirror's story of which they claim that he met him, of which is not in any way true. Although, his point about Farrakhan was very similar to many black and white seperatists who believe that the two can't live together. Of which is bollocks.

However, Nick Griffin has stated openly in an interview with BBC's Panorama that he wished that there wasn't any non whites here at all. He has also very recently claimed that black people could never claim that they were ethnically English. His Party also still hold a Whites only door policy on their party. I guess you could put him down as being a racist. However, even though I have a dislike to those sentiments, they are his right to express them, just like it is our right to disagree with them.

entrangermercenary

13-01-2010, 11:23 PM

blah fucking blah

Now the story I wd be interested in was how some1 got a bottle across the grid and thinks it was the BNP.??

Did they have big BNP badges on ?? Or shout BNP as they were bottling said person?? OR may be it was the Yid army who thought you were the herd or the herd thinking you were yid youth.

Now thats a story im looking forward to ;)

seanx

13-01-2010, 11:23 PM

paolo wrote:

Well, it's a he - Andrew Neather, former Blair speech writer, and latterly writer for the scurrilous Standard.

Sorry about that
I don't support the BNP, I think the hierarchy contains some nasty pieces of work, and almost certainly some intelligence agents

I agree.

However I do think that in the guise of diversity and multiculturalism, the aim is to create a monochrome monocultural cheap labour pool, and the abused white male is and has been centrally demonised and oppressed, culturally, in order to achieve this

I used to believe this .

But when you look at the statictics - and this at the end of 12 or so
of Labour rule ( where you would assume it would be easier to
achieve this ) 92% of Britain is ethnic white.

Either there is no such policy or the Eilte are hopelessly inadequate
and total failures.

So how can we say the white male is 'been centrally demonised
and oppressed' .

Maybe you can take a few pinpoints of areas like a few London
suburbs - but in the rest of the UK the white male still clearly
dominates.

How is he been oppressed?

oink

13-01-2010, 11:33 PM

blah fucking blah

And that is directed at whom exactly?

entrangermercenary

13-01-2010, 11:35 PM

And that is directed at whom exactly?

YOU :rolleyes: BLAH FUCKING BLAH lets have the story about the bottling in the pub now that wd be interesting ;)

oink

13-01-2010, 11:37 PM

YOU :rolleyes: BLAH FUCKING BLAH lets have the story about the bottling in the pub now that wd be interesting ;)So you are more interested in aggresion versus fact, are you not?

entrangermercenary

13-01-2010, 11:43 PM

So you are more interested in aggresion versus fact, are you not?

Well some1 is claiming aggression/wounding by the BNP. Im trying to get to the facts. Court case, or criminal damages for injury, which you dont need a court case for. Now these facts would be interesting would they not ?? :)

seanx

14-01-2010, 12:04 AM

entrangermercenary wrote:

Well some1 is claiming aggression/wounding by the BNP. Im trying to get to the facts. Court case, or criminal damages for injury, which you dont need a court case for. Now these facts would be interesting would they not ??

Are you addressing that at me sunshine?

Court case?? Damages??

I'll tell you the only damages were the damages your bnp buddies
got back in return when they decided to attack an Irish pub on the
Holloway rd, N. London during the 1994 world cup.

They were answered back in the ONLY language they understand.

The Irish aren't like the decent Asian people. The Irish answer fire
with fire - and then add some interest.

Why the interest? Were you part of the NF scum of the time?

the nine

14-01-2010, 12:06 AM

Nine wrote:

Sorry how have they changed

Their goals or consitution have not changed.

So, how have they changed?

Don't be so silly or juvenile.

I'm using them as an example only. As they are the people that the
bnp usually beat the shit out of most weekend nights .

However could you answer the question?

Maybe you could help me answer the question?

Chinese, Japanease people would NOT have been able to join the BNP -
BECAUSE they are not WHITE.

Could you tell me why this is?

It is a simple question.

Why do the BNP use COLOUR as the deciding factor
on who can and can't join????

Eastern Europeans who were WHITE were perfectly free to join.
They were many East Germans who were and are members

However black Europeans were FORBIDDEN from joining.

So once again, since you claim bnp are not racist, could you
explain why this is.

I mean you don't have to be Einstein to see a pattern here.

Then I asked you:

We have lots of black members on this forum who are also
passionate on climate change?Could you tell them why
just because of the COLOUR of the skin, they were not able to join the bnp?

You gave me no answer.

Instead you quoted the BNP's standard press release when they
are asked this question.

This answer you gave is available on their website.

You tell us you're not a member - so why not answer in your own words.

it is a simple question?

I'm sure all the non-whites members of the dave icke site would
love to know!

Also, can you tell me of any other genuine climate change party -
ANYWHERE in the world who uses COLOUR as the basis of who can and
can't join them and campaign to save the environment?

And if you did, would you consider thm racist?

Again, utter nonsense.

They were FORCED, screaming and shouting by law and PUBLIC
OPINION to change this rule.

BTW, can you tell me how many non-white members this 'party'
has???

Are you seeing a 'pattern' here?

well, yes I am seeing a pattern here..
lets take every point I have made, and jus fucking ignore it!!
then lets take all the questions you have asked me, which I have answered, but NOT to your liking, then reitterate the point you are trying to make..which is quite moot, as you CLEARLY are incapable of comprehending the context of the whole fucking thread...

shall we both agree to meet on a merry-go-round..that way I can physically show you the flaws in your posts which you cannot seed to grasp intellectually...!!!

it was a white only membership because this was the only way to afford protection to their members from being sacked from work once people found out they were BNP members..
maybe employers didnt want crazy MO'FO's arguing the toss about BNP with them..'coz to be totally honest..ITS A RIGHT FUCKING DRAG GOING ROUND AND ROUND AND ROUND!!

but thats clearly how you roll..wearing people down with moot points..RIGHT??

oink

14-01-2010, 12:09 AM

Well some1 is claiming aggression/wounding by the BNP. Im trying to get to the facts. Court case, or criminal damages for injury, which you dont need a court case for. Now these facts would be interesting would they not ?? :)I see what you mean. If you are referring to the attack on Nick Griffin, then I agree with you. Violence is abbhorent in all circumstances. But that has nothing to do with my points about the guy, or the Party he pretends to lead, and the fact that it is a far right organisation with links with other more violent organisations.

And just typing blah fucking blah to dismiss someone elses point does not do you any favours, especially on a site full of open minded people. Try it on Stormfront or Urban 75 and you may have people rushing to your offence. Here i would hope that people would have a few more brain cells to acknowledge such a crude cheap shot.

entrangermercenary

14-01-2010, 12:17 AM

entrangermercenary wrote:

Are you addressing that at me sunshine?

Court case?? Damages??

I'll tell you the only damages were the damages your bnp buddies
got back in return when they decided to attack an Irish pub on the
Holloway rd, N. London during the 1994 world cup.

They were answered back in the ONLY language they understand.

The Irish aren't like the decent Asian people. The Irish answer fire
with fire - and then add some interest.

Why the interest? Were you part of the NF scum of the time?

1ST of all sunshine(lol) you come on here claiming you were bottled by the BNP.How did you know they were BNP and not some footy lads thinking you were Arsenal, as you were drinking in an Arsenal area.?? They may have been Totenham for all you know :rolleyes:

Secondly you could of put a claim in for criminal damages or is that news to you ??

Obviously you put money in the tin when it comes around or do you bring the tin around?? ;)

No I wasnt part of the NF scum at the time. I was relaxing after coming back from abroad :) Well actually probably ;in Belmarsh at the time :D

How do you know im not Irish or of Irish parents ?? Decent Asian people :eek: of course there are decent Asian people .... you thick or what ??:rolleyes:

Are you BNP yourself then and dont know any decent Asians ??

Why if some1 questions you are they suddenly a BNP buddie ?? Your posts are strange tarring everybody like that. If that's the case you are fucked because everybody that disagrees with you is BNP :confused:

entrangermercenary

14-01-2010, 12:21 AM

I see what you mean. If you are referring to the attack on Nick Griffin, then I agree with you. Violence is abbhorent in all circumstances. But that has nothing to do with my points about the guy, or the Party he pretends to lead, and the fact that it is a far right organisation with links with other more violent organisations.

And just typing blah fucking blah to dismiss someone elses point does not do you any favours, especially on a site full of open minded people. Try it on Stormfront or Urban 75 and you may have people rushing to your offence. Here i would hope that people would have a few more brain cells to acknowledge such a crude cheap shot.

Have you not read this thread at all ?? Mr seanx claims to have been attacked by the BNP :eek: Now im asking him for some more info on this attack because there is more to this than he is letting on ;)

Not really having a dig at you m8 :) but the thread is going around in circles and it is blah blah blah.

Stormfront is that the one with over a million members :eek: which use the term sheeple a lot :)

oink

14-01-2010, 12:32 AM

Have you not read this thread at all ?? Mr seanx claims to have been attacked by the BNP :eek: Now im asking him for some more info on this attack because there is more to this than he is letting on ;)

I was replying to an ealier post of which had nothing to do with the attack of which you mentioned. You butted in with "blah fucking blah".

The OP is about Griffin potentially getting time for making "his" party a whites only one. I disagree with the charge, but would like to make clear what kind of Party the BNP is. You might disagree with me, but to start a bunfight with me (an "blah blah fucking blah" is quite a provocative start of a bunfight) just because of a derailment in the thread is ridiculous. If you disagree then give a reasoned argument. "Blah blah fucking blah" is not a basis for reasoned debate.