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eternal_spirit
18-09-2007, 06:31 PM
http://judicial-inc.biz/NZ_snuff_films.htm

banjaxo
18-09-2007, 11:13 PM
is the link an article, i dont want to click it without knowing what it is ?

eternal_spirit
18-09-2007, 11:18 PM
is the link an article, i dont want to click it without knowing what it is ?
.............

Yes it's a safe site ( no videos ) not a big article, worth a look.
It explains how they get the victims to appear in the vids and who controls how it happens etc.

eat_a_grey
19-09-2007, 04:58 AM
Leonard Lake and Charles Ng (both ex military) also filmed their victims.

I have been following this case for many many years (I lived in the area when these killings took place) and I also read 'rumors' that some of these films were sold at a very high price to people willing to pay.

I have to wonder if Lake and Ng were MK-Ultra projects for some ghoulish reason?:confused:

dude111
07-12-2009, 02:46 PM
A very interesting page!

The music is creepy :D

cathar
10-12-2009, 02:37 AM
Lake,as in Leonerd LAKE means "Dweller on a dried=up watercourse in the moors...many of most twisted murderers have these type of last names...see my post [curious case of criminal last names] in this section.

godgoo
10-12-2009, 03:10 AM
F*kin disgusting.

thedefender
11-12-2009, 02:06 AM
"Kids torn apart by dogs"


What sick SOB watches these things!

velma
14-12-2009, 01:18 PM
"Kids torn apart by dogs"


What sick SOB watches these things!


The kind of sick SOB's that can afford it.


It costs 75,000 euros to rape, torture and kill a child, in any sadistic manner you choose and 45,000 if you only wanted to watch.

And the clientele?

ROYALTY!



"....a Belgian newspaper claimed yesterday that a former European commissioner was among a group of judges, senior politicians, lawyers and policemen who attended orgies held in a Belgian chateau..."

This is part of the same necro-paedo "elite" who operate from the White House and ordered movies from Abu Ghraib.

"There is good reason for the embarrassment of the Pentagon in the affair. The orders to take the sexually-oriented photos and videos, some of which involve teenage Iraqi boys and girls and sodomization by their guards, came directly from a pedophile and closeted male homosexual ring operating in the White House, according to the intelligence sources. Copies of the tapes and photos were sent directly to the White House for the entertainment of senior members of the Bush White House, including officials in the Vice President's office and the Executive Office of the President."

jp13
14-12-2009, 02:12 PM
Has anyone here ever actually seen a 'snuff' movie?
In all my years I have never come across one, not that I was looking for any. I did hear 2nd hand about someone I used to know had seen one.
I'm sure they must exist, nearly every other form of evil that can be thought off is out there somewhere (or in someone's sick mind).

velma
14-12-2009, 02:21 PM
Has anyone here ever actually seen a 'snuff' movie?

No thanks!

Eli Roth's 'Hostel' was bad enough for me.

Not my idea of entertainment.... :eek:

eternal_spirit
14-12-2009, 02:40 PM
Has anyone here ever actually seen a 'snuff' movie?
In all my years I have never come across one, not that I was looking for any. I did hear 2nd hand about someone I used to know had seen one.
I'm sure they must exist, nearly every other form of evil that can be thought off is out there somewhere (or in someone's sick mind).
I have about 10 years ago. One scene was ritualistic type murder (supposedly real and Chinese/oriental) but it's hard to distinguish with special effects being so good.

There where many scenes from around the world including people having hands cut off which was very nasty.

PS it's not something I've googled (snuff videos) who want's to try?

octopusrex
14-12-2009, 04:57 PM
Saw one only once, in Paris, back in the 80s.
Made me vomit.

rodin
14-12-2009, 08:31 PM
While we're on the subject this was quite a famous case recently. The media presenters who broke the story were fired

Italian, Russian Police Break Up Child Snuff Porn Ring

Jewish Gangsters Raped, Killed Children As Young As Two On Film

Rome, Italy -- Italian and Russian police, working together, broke up a
ring of Jewish gangsters who had been involved in the manufacture of
child rape and snuff pornography.

Three Russian Jews and eight Italian Jews were arrested after police
discovered they had been kidnapping non-Jewish children between the
ages of two and five years from Russian orphanages, raping the
children, and then murdering them on film. Mostly non-Jewish customers,
including 1,700 nationwide, 600 in Italy, and an unknown number in the
United States, paid as much as $20,000 per film to watch little
children being raped and murdered.

Jewish officials in a major Italian news agency tried to cover the
story up, but were circumvented by Italian news reporters, who
broadcast scenes from the films live at prime time on Italian
television to more than 11 million Italian viewers. Jewish officials
then fired the executives responsible, claiming they were spreading
"blood libel."

Throughout history, various groups have accused sects of Jews of
ritually murdering small children. One such account, that of Hugh of
Lincoln, led to the expulsion of all Jews from Britain in the 13th
Century. Such accounts have generally been discounted, but are so
widespread that Jewish organizations have developed a name for them --
"blood libel."

Though AP and Reuters both ran stories on the episode, US media
conglomerates refused to carry the story on television news, again
saying the story would prejudice Americans against Jews.

Jewish gangsters in Russia have become increasingly linked to traffic
in "white slaves" and prostitutes through Israel, according to a recent
report in the Jerusalem Post. Israel turns an official blind eye to
forced prostitution, and does not punish Israeli citizens who choose to
own "sex slaves" as long as the slaves are foreign and non-Jews.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Alt/alt.religion.islam/2005-11/msg01495.html

funkyjesus
15-12-2009, 12:05 AM
I think most people seen a snuff video but it depends on your use of the term.

Most people have watched one of the rising numbers of death videos such as kidnapped soldiers or Islamic stoning, etc.

Snuff movie as in real death in fictional movie type deal - no. Seems a long winded way if your main thrill is a real death.

A human and natural fascination but the idea of people PAYING for it is just odd.

ninny
15-12-2009, 11:31 AM
i guess the case is the same as shown in the movie 8MM or in some terms like in the hostel movies. (the hostel guys made fun of that topic, thats why i hate those movies.)
dealing with snuff movies must be very safe for the networks.
i dont think only surfing by that you wont find anything real.
they maybe give it hand to hand... filmer to customer in real life not over the internet. its not seccure enough.

i think they also make snuff movies in wars. africa, afghanistan etc.
we never will find out how the networks are working in that but i think they work like that we would not expect.
i guess there are also lots of staged videos on the net. i saw once a girl shot in the head and before she was crying lots of minutes. it was real to me but can be staged also. the most famous snuff movies i guess are the ones where girls are running away from guys with heavy machine pistols... then they shoot like hunting an animal. but this is staged. i found that on the net years ago while i was interested in that topic. these were shortcuts from long movies. that was napster time where people played along with lots of sicko stuff and sending it to friends to frighten them and laugh their asses off.

i guess to go through the door between watching staged stuff and wanting to have someone to die real is not hard to go through for those perversos with money. i mean, how much people disappear from earth and never were seen again? men, women and kids. in wars... if soldiers are able to rape people in wars its not hard to take a camera with you and sell it to the next perverso.

cathar
16-12-2009, 01:15 AM
The first time i heard the term "snuff film" was in a book written by Ed Saunders called
THE FAMILY..{about charles manson,etc.} he wrote of rumors about satanic groups in california who had made them...this was circa 1973/4...
i think the term came along about the same time video cameras showed up in the market place.

cathar
16-12-2009, 01:28 AM
Video cameras opened up a Pandoras Box of weirdness as well as creativity...much like ROCK AND ROLL music only came about with the inventions of electric guitars and amplifiers...Leo Fender made the first electric base guitar and that completed the set of instruments for early rock music.

godgoo
16-12-2009, 01:28 AM
I have seen a beheading, which was pretty grusome. The Russian beheading, google it. You will learn something, horrible.

nihil
16-12-2009, 01:54 AM
I have seen some frames taken from an alleged '80s footage of that kind.
These kind of satanic footages always happen in void rooms with the
perpetrator dressed in black and with the face covered. The article reported
that this footage was online on a peer to peer site under the title 'extreme sex'.

I followed the case of the monster of florence (mostro di firenze) in the past and I read many books related to that satanic murders and a journalist - which I don't mention here - reported he saw some footages of the actual murders that were alleged to that psychopat. I know that this sort of assertion as: I state that he saw... are not the best proofs, BUT please see my previous posts in here, and particularly the ones in the Illuminati section, to understand my points of view. Well, back to the topic. That journalist - not famous at all, but trustworthy to me - stated that ALL those murders were filmed and those footages were sold into some not-well-known circles. In shorts, those circles are high grades of Rose-Cross and Golden Dawn.