Hollow Earth? how can it not be?

[norton]

ok, first of all haven't been on this forum, ever. some may remember me from the unofficial icke forum. well, i'm back! hooray.

first question is:

Is it widly accepted amogst theorists and readers of theories that the Earth is hollow? i truely believe it to be, and just wondered if anyone else agrees or disagrees

[december]

ok, first of all haven't been on this forum, ever.

Hello, Norton.
And Welcome. :)

This subject was discussed here number of times. I think you can begin with this thread -
There is no hole in the North Pole....

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2661

:)

[brotherapostate]

I first heard John Rhodes speak of Hollow Earth a few years back. I must say that I wouldn't be surprised by anything anymore, and I am in agreement with the theory that there are underground cave networks that go down miles perhaps -

but Hollow earth I must dismiss. The whole theory that you enter hollow earth via the north or south poles must be supported by the alleged lack of clear photo's above the Poles just does not hold water. Amature explorers have crossed the Poles and discovered nothing.

[horus21]

Id certainly like it to be, regardless of consequence as it would fill many gaps in my hypothesies of exsistance and meaning of. I have not and can not dismiss the theorey nor can I confirm placing me in the same boat as most of you.

I do however see it possible and it would fit in fine with me in comparision to all of the special and wonderful things our earth alone is offering, it would just make sense.

There is a charted expedition to where its believed the opening starts, in 2008, the one which was to set off this year was cancelled as the person in charge 'died' before he could explore this amazing possibility.

Now if it is, it is needless to say that we the public are not to know about this, for many reason so dont be suprised if the next man turns up deceased, the ship sinks or disapears or they buy him out and he claims to find nothing, along with the other hundreds of people onboard the gigantic nuclear ice breaker which they have booked in to cruise through the harsh conditions they will face getting to and during their quest to the nth pole region, departing from russia.

[norton]

thanks very much. personally i don't think there are holes in north and south pole (but i've never been there so who am i to judge!!) but i do believe that there are caves and such things that can lead to the inside. The whole 'other race living inside' is another theory that i'm not to sure about. But life does turn up in the most extraordinary places. I guess i'd better pack my rucksack and head on up!:)

[horus21]

thanks very much. personally i don't think there are holes in north and south pole (but i've never been there so who am i to judge!!) but i do believe that there are caves and such things that can lead to the inside. The whole 'other race living inside' is another theory that i'm not to sure about. But life does turn up in the most extraordinary places. I guess i'd better pack my rucksack and head on up!:)

Good luck

[december]

This is a MUST READ thread on this subject -
There is no hole in the North Pole....
http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2661



This animation shows the plate tectonic evolution of the North Atlantic as viewed from the North Pole.
http://www.scotese.com/npoleanim.htm



Russia plants flag under N Pole
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6927395.stm#map

http://www.vesti.ru/p/b_195885.jpg

http://image.newsru.com/pict/id/large/978738_20070802103818.gif

http://image.newsru.com/pict/id/large/978740_20070802103818.gif

http://img.rian.ru/images/7029/73/70297319.jpg

[brotherapostate]

The movie 'The land that time forgot' is based on the Hollow Earth theory. A ship gets lost and heads to the Pole where they navigate their way through tight tunnels to end up in a land full of prehistoric wonder.

[horus21]

The movie 'The land that time forgot' is based on the Hollow Earth theory. A ship gets lost and heads to the Pole where they navigate their way through tight tunnels to end up in a land full of prehistoric wonder.

I just searched around google for that movie, I am confused into which one is the file. Could you direct me to a url which will show me this please?

If you know of a download please include that link too. Thanks

[horus21]

found it, now looking for a download link

[brotherapostate]

I remember having the Land that Time forgot on a really ancient video tape for years. One of my favourite movies as a child.

Still is actually.

Just tried to find a torrent site with it on but I cannot.

[adimon]

ok, first of all haven't been on this forum, ever. some may remember me from the unofficial icke forum. well, i'm back! hooray.

first question is:

Is it widly accepted amogst theorists and readers of theories that the Earth is hollow? i truely believe it to be, and just wondered if anyone else agrees or disagrees

Why do you believe that the earth is hollow, norton?

[norton]

i believe it to be hollow, because, if you go back millions of years when the earth was forming it was a molton mass of lava, it got sucked into our suns electro magnetic field and started spinning. Now, when things start to spin the mass of the object gets pushed outwards, personally i don't believe the earth expanded into a solid mass. how could it? not saying i'm right, just what i think.

[adimon]

i believe it to be hollow, because, if you go back millions of years when the earth was forming it was a molton mass of lava, it got sucked into our suns electro magnetic field and started spinning. Now, when things start to spin the mass of the object gets pushed outwards, personally i don't believe the earth expanded into a solid mass. how could it? not saying i'm right, just what i think.

Was there a source which presented this argument to you? I ask because I think I know what you're saying, but I'm not sure. :)

[eternal_spirit]

Biggest Secret book by Icke he suggests the hollow earth theory but can't remember where his sources came from.

It's described as a washing machine, notice how the clothes stick to the outside of the drum whilst spin drying leaving a large rounded space in the centre.

[thirdwave]

I think the idea of it and sceince behind it is very belivable, but I would like to get more info on this A Bird guy.... and find out more about the caves that we are not aloud to enter and more detail on that....

I just feel these subjects have not been explored enough...

but there defo does seem somthing fishy about it

it could be that there is infact an inside to the earth that has life there... but maybe not what the conspiracy makes out hollow earth to be... or it might be spot on!

who knows... more research needed by someone I think...

[bigus_dickus]

the hollow earth theory, is just a theory, which of course means fiction. some people believe this fiction, some others don't, but whatever the case neither of them really know and of course i don't know either. what we know though, is that the inside is very different from the outside, that there are large chasms and that most of the inside of earth is filled with materials as shown with evidence by seismic waves that propagate all the way through the inside of the globe.

[lookfar]

ok, first of all haven't been on this forum, ever. some may remember me from the unofficial icke forum. well, i'm back! hooray.

first question is:

Is it widly accepted amogst theorists and readers of theories that the Earth is hollow? i truely believe it to be, and just wondered if anyone else agrees or disagrees

Hi norton & welcome to the forum :)

I am very open to the possibility that the earth could be hollow (despite the piss being taken out of me when I mention it to other people, lol!).

I would like to do more thorough research, but from what I've learned so far, it seems very plausable to me. Plus with all the mythology from around the world, it just adds up that this could be the case. Certain caves & underground bases are meant to go down for miles, they surely must've found other proof along the way which they're covering up.

I also enjoyed the film, "Journey to the Centre of the Earth", which I watched again recently, have you seen it?

[bigus_dickus]

Certain caves & underground bases are meant to go down for miles, they surely must've found other proof along the way which they're covering up.

these are on land (miles above the sea bottoms). they are merely scratches on the surface!

[holydiver55]

What do you think the "Northern Lights" are? Rays from the inner earth.

[adimon]

I was just wondering though - apart from just having the idea that the earth is hollow, whether any of those that believe have any sort of evidence we could look at. Icke did not quote his sources.

Also, sound waves sent into the earth is the reason for the mantle and the core.

[grackle]

I kinda believe in Hollow Earth. Not exactly sure.

[damagedbrainn]

The hollow earth theory is just flat-out impossible. I may have some of the exact details wrong, but this is the gist of it:

1) First of all, I have a hard time understanding how the earth could manage to stay in one piece over the course of millions of years if it was just a hollow shell.

2) The composition of the earth has been thorougly studied and still is. Much of what the earth's structure has been determined by the study of seismic waves, and if there were a giant gap of hollow space beneath the earth's surface, it would have been easily detected.

3) The earth's crust is only about 20-30 miles thick on land (the crust at the bottom of the ocean is thinner). Beneath that is the earth's mantle whose temperature is about 900 to over a 1,000 F at its topmost layer. Despite the high temperature, the mantle is kept solid due to the large amount of pressure it is under. Without this pressure, it would turn into molten rock. Therefore, any claims about caves extending downward for hundreds or thousands of miles is complete nonsense. (The deepest known cave is only about 2 miles in depth. However, the longest known cave system stretches for 579 km, which would be over 600 miles.)

4) A hollow earth would mean a significantly lower amount of mass, which would mean less gravity. In other words, if the earth were hollow, its gravitational field would be weaker than it is.

5) There's no explanation of how exactly a hollow earth could even have a core, let alone a second surface for living creatures to walk around on.

[horus21]

The hollow earth theory is just flat-out impossible. I may have some of the exact details wrong, but this is the gist of it:

1) First of all, I have a hard time understanding how the earth could manage to stay in one piece over the course of millions of years if it was just a hollow shell.

2) The composition of the earth has been thorougly studied and still is. Much of what the earth's structure has been determined by the study of seismic waves, and if there were a giant gap of hollow space beneath the earth's surface, it would have been easily detected.

3) The earth's crust is only about 20-30 miles thick on land (the crust at the bottom of the ocean is thinner). Beneath that is the earth's mantle whose temperature is about 900 to over a 1,000 F at its topmost layer. Despite the high temperature, the mantle is kept solid due to the large amount of pressure it is under. Without this pressure, it would turn into molten rock. Therefore, any claims about caves extending downward for hundreds or thousands of miles is complete nonsense. (The deepest known cave is only about 2 miles in depth. However, the longest known cave system stretches for 579 km, which would be over 600 miles.)

4) A hollow earth would mean a significantly lower amount of mass, which would mean less gravity. In other words, if the earth were hollow, its gravitational field would be weaker than it is.

5) There's no explanation of how exactly a hollow earth could even have a core, let alone a second surface for living creatures to walk around on.


Mate, INCORRECT

[damagedbrainn]

i believe it to be hollow, because, if you go back millions of years when the earth was forming it was a molton mass of lava, it got sucked into our suns electro magnetic field and started spinning. Now, when things start to spin the mass of the object gets pushed outwards, personally i don't believe the earth expanded into a solid mass. how could it? not saying i'm right, just what i think.

Then how did a surface manage to form at all? If the spin of the earth caused its mass to push outward, then what force was present which stopped this mass at the level of its surface? Why didn't it just keep going? Why don't we just spin off the surface of the earth if the spin is powerful enough to push mass outward?

[damagedbrainn]

Mate, INCORRECT

You'll have to give a little more than that.

[astraltraveller]

if mars is hollow then why cant earth be .

http://www.ourhollowearth.com/MarsIsHollow.htm mars is hollow link <

i like to think of earth and all planets that could support life as being an egg and life possibly begining inside the planets so the life has a protective shell from the harsh outside elements and if thier is a central sun this would be just like a little chick in an incubator with the small sun acting like a warm lamp to hatch life iside the planet that is also in an egg but what made that first egg , fuked if i know lol . reppies come from eggs and ive read plenty about them being the first beings on the ploanet and are suposed to have originated in the earth and from other planets but anyway this is all just some thoughts and not anything i solidly believe but i think earth could well be hollow and especialy if mars realy is hollow . ive also heard someone on redicecreations say its withought a doubt hollow and gave good convincing info . ive just rememberd that and what the guy said was very convincing unless he just made shit up lol .

[joss classey]

how deep do you think the rabbit hole really goes?

[majicdragon]

I was just wondering though - apart from just having the idea that the earth is hollow, whether any of those that believe have any sort of evidence we could look at. Icke did not quote his sources.

Also, sound waves sent into the earth is the reason for the mantle and the core.

This isn't exactly something I think about for any extended periods, But I believe that I have looked through some very compelling evidence on this subject withought paying it much ado. I'd overlooked it because my focus of interest was elsewhere.

I found at least two references in Native American stories. I remember in one, that the indian people, in times since fogotten, had encountered some people who came out of a cave. The ones from the cave were unaware of the times and inquired for reference sake to their new friends. The people who came from the cave were quite timid, and seemed that they knew of the future to come. They inquired about what was the world situation and when they learned where was their placement in time... back into the cave they went. And neither were seen again.

That was from a story that relayed information on what the tellers of it came to believe was Atlantis. And the time in the story when the encounter with the cave dwellers occured, was after Atlantis and after the mound dwellings when from the Great Spirit through prophets had warned them to leave and go into all of the different directions and stop when a specific star would appear. They would know that they'd reached the land that was chosen for them and their families by God at that time.

And in other stories... I think more than one, that told of the beginning where life was sent down from a heavenly craft... It told that a woman, had landed alone here with husband to follow, and that she had found... that it wasnt so spacious as what she was used to, so huge turtles were sent to go under the sea. The turtles scooped up what was solid and firm for the woman and brought more land to the surface for her.

There are so many Native American stories, But I will find them, And I'll post them here just as soon as I do.

They make you wonder and with all of these stories that seem definately older than biblical lore, It makes you wonder just where we came from, and when we came, was there already sombody here....