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Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 09:33 AM
Breatharians claim that they can live only on breathing without eating or drinking. That sounds totally outrageous to me, but it could be possible! Jericho Sunfire, a breatharian and former rugby player said that it took him 2-3 weeks for his organs to adjust to the breatharian mode. And after that his body felt lighter he said. He also said that it's possible to increase muscle mass through only breathing.
Jericho Sunfire: A Breatharian Personal Fitness Guru - P4/4 - YouTube
Other people, such as Jasmuheen, say that they can live on prana, the life force.
Bridging Heaven & Earth Show # 104 with Jasmuheen & Kailash - YouTube
It should be easy to test the validity of this. I will try to not eat or drink for two weeks (don't try this at home kids, it could be very dangerous). If I feel good and healthy after two weeks, then that's enough proof for me. :D
jammasterj13
08-01-2010, 12:09 PM
It's probably a dormant ability we all have and quite possible all the living creatures on this planet lived on prana/chi/manna in some moment in time.
Autobiography of a Yogi has many accounts of holy bods living on breath alone.
Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 12:35 PM
It's probably a dormant ability we all have and quite possible all the living creatures on this planet lived on prana/chi/manna in some moment in time.
Autobiography of a Yogi has many accounts of holy bods living on breath alone.
It sounds unbelievable, but the easiest way is to try it. I will do a test to see if it works. :cool::)
gaias child
08-01-2010, 02:12 PM
Jericho Sunfire is Richard Blackman, he has been 100%raw food vegan and fruitarian for many years, and has detoxified on a very deep level, that takes years to do and changed the funtioning of his body, I also have been raw food vegan for many years, and I am not at the point where I could do this, or even fruitarianism heck most people don't even believe that you can live on a vegan or raw food diet and think fruitariansim is rubbish, let alone breatharianism. so just because it doesn't work for most people does not mean it doesn't work. YOu have to understand detoxification on a deep level, a 2 week juice fast does not do it. It can take several months or years, and you have to have faith, detoxification on a deep level can make you illl and detox on deep level can be dangerous for people with high level of toxins ie amalgam fillings, pharmaceutical drugs, vaccines etc. as well as chemcials and pesticides from food
most people who are eating conventional diets will not be able to transition to breatharianism even with the faith, he has transitioned over many years from raw vegan food to fruitarianism Whether he can do this long term at this point is also debateable, interesting to see though.
gaias child
08-01-2010, 02:17 PM
Here is another article by Richard aka jericho sunfire from a couple of years ago on fruitarianism.
http://www.naturalnews.com/023209_food_fruitarian_health.html
Raw Summit Excerpt with Richard Blackman, former Rugby player, fitness expert and fruitarian.
Kevin: I'm excited to talk about this very interesting topic. So let's start by telling everyone a little bit about yourself and were you always into fitness?
Richard: Yes, I was always into fitness. Even in my family, my mother was a school sprinting champion. My uncle was a British welterweight champion and a boxing champion. So yes, sports always ran in the family and when I was in my cooked food days, I was actually a rugby league player.
Kevin: Okay.
Richard: I went on to turning pro at the age of 19 after playing for Great Britain as an amateur and in about 1997, I had a bad neck injury and I had to quit. So when I stopped actually exercising, I could really feel it and it was then I started to think about my body changes, and how my stomach was digesting food. It was around about that time, I started to go into raw foods and fruitarianism.
Kevin: What were some of the things that you were feeling then? I mean, it's common that athletes get off their exercise plans and their shape just deteriorates. Did that happen to you?
Richard: Yes, pretty much. While I was playing it, all we did was train. We ran long distance stuff, we did sprints, we're always training, there was skill work and as soon as we stopped, I kind of made a vow to never run again. So my digestion slowed right down and in looking back, I could actually see that the only reason why I maintained my health was due to intense speed of exercise, because I ate garbage. There is a whole thing. When you play a sport like rugby, which is like American football over here, the whole thing is to eat big, to get big, so you have a situation where you're just chugging down food relentlessly. You can manipulate all that water, in fact, to make it look like you've got some mass about you.
Kevin: Yes.
Richard: So pretty much that's what was happening to me, I was still eating the same junk, I wasn't working out, I wasn't manipulating it anywhere and basically I wasn't cleaning out my glands through exercise, I wasn't getting anything circulated. I wasn't helping myself out and I was paying the price for it.
Kevin: So how do you go from one of the toughest sports around, rugby, into being a fruitarian? What was the motivation and then we'll just get into the whole fruitarian thing.
Richard: Okay well, this is one of those things I really can't explain because up until then, it wasn't even on rare occasions I ate fruit. I just never ate fruits.
Kevin: Yes.
Richard: Like I said, I just ate garbage. Eating healthy was like having a cheese sandwich for me.
Kevin: Wow.
Richard: With maybe some lettuce in it, that for me was the extent of eating healthy. I came from a relatively old inner city British West Indian Family. We weren't rich. My mother brought me up by herself, so we ate cheap fruits, we had overcooked foods. We didn't know any better. We just
ate what we knew. So basically, what got me from that, onto fruitarianism, I really don't know. I just know that when I stopped, it was like my body or my instincts took over. All of a sudden eating cooked foods didn't feel right.
All of a sudden, I started to sense being sick a whole lot more. I was more sensitive to feeling indigested food. I was more sensitive to feeling how it was getting harder to breath. I was getting more sensitive to feeling all the mucous in my nose or the mucous in the back of my throat or the mucous in my chest, you know. And even when I tried to get more active, like I used to cycle, it was getting harder to move myself. It was getting harder to motivate myself to even get up on a bike. And then one day, it suddenly dawned on me that, and don't ask me how because I don't know, I just knew I had to go out and get some food. I didn't want to eat cooked food. I knew cooked food was a problem.
Kevin: Yes.
Richard: Okay and I just could not take another bite of cooked food. I couldn't do it. I felt that if I did, then I will just break down because it just felt like I was ageing actively and that my body was giving me the message that if I carried on this way, I was going to break down and I would end up in the hospital and follow the same cycle as everybody else does.
Kevin: Right.
Richard: So it took about two to three days for it to sink in and for me to say to myself, "Well, you know what, something's happening here, I'm getting the message, I'm going to act on it." Okay, so I got on my bike, I went down to the... back in England where I was living, there was plenty of old Indian stores. They sell fruits from different countries like India, Jamaica, West India because there is a big West Indian population over there and you can get a lot of exotic fruits. And I went and I got some beautiful fruits. I got some mangoes. I got a couple of honeydew melons. I got some grapes and I remember this so well because this was a real turning point for me and I even got some non-dried natural dates.
Kevin: Wow, okay.
Richard: And I've never tasted those before. The only dates I've seen is dried.
Kevin: Yes.
Richard: So I packed them in my little satchel and I put some in my basket on my bike and I got home. It was amazing because I was so excited. I just gave into these mangoes and it was like heaven. It was such a relief. It was like my whole system just sighed with relief and just said, "Thank God for that."
Kevin: Wow!
Richard: You know, I didn't know anything about fruitarianism. I didn't know anything about raw foods. I just went with my instincts. It really paid off and it was like all clean and good and so I carried on. And the next day, I did exactly the same thing.
Kevin: Okay.
Richard: Anything I looked at that appealed to me, I went out and bought and I tried it. And if I didn't like it, I didn't like it. If I liked it, I bought it again.
Kevin: Right.
Richard: So I went totally off my instincts, and that lasted for about a couple of weeks. And I was in heaven, for those two weeks and then, my detox set in and then everything just went haywire --the completeness.
Kevin: Yes. So let's talk about being a fruitarian.
Richard: Okay.
Kevin: It's a segment of the raw food world that we haven't covered in this Summit. So I want to really get into it and talk about what it means to be a fruitarian.
Richard: Well actually it's a very personal thing. One of my things is that we must all do what we feel in our hearts that we should do. Each person will have to go through his own experience, and I try and get people to encompass that instead of asking other people, perfect strangers, a million and one questions about what to eat, what they should eat, what they shouldn't eat and get a million and one different answers back, and they get even more confused. So being a fruitarian really is your own experience, doing what works for you. For me personally, being a fruitarian is all about going back to nature.
Kevin: Okay.
Richard: Okay. I don't eat anything that I can't pick from a tree or pick from a bush and eat as it is, okay? That's what being a fruitarian is. I'm passionately against the raw gourmet stuff and how the raw community is going right now. They're not transitioning the whole way through. They're getting caught up in all these raw gourmet recipes -- the oily, fatty, nutty, chocolaty, raw - gourmet recipes are just replicas of the very foods that they're trying to stop eating. The raw pizzas, the raw ice creams, the raw lasagnas... when I talk to people, I try and find out what their goals are, whether they want to go 100% fruitarian, whether they want to go strict because essentially, going strict fruitarian regardless of your experience is really going A to B, okay; because you will not get the benefits otherwise.
Kevin: What are some of the benefits of fruitarianism?
Richard: Top benefits basically is the clearance of debris of cooked food waste, if you do it the right way, okay? If you don't overeat, if you don't get caught on the raw gourmet stuff, you will clean out and clean out enough for your body to work as it's supposed to work. The benefits I have seen are much clearer skin, fresher insides and healthier mouth. Basically, the whole works because the whole body goes for a total overhaul, so from your head down to your toes, your hair, your nails, your smell, everything.
I'm not going to tell you that you turn sheepish because you won't. You'll still be the same person as you were before but you'll be cleaner. Your thinking will be more positive. You'll be more motivated for getting active and then some people will say, "They're more spiritual." Some people say, "They're more psychic." Some people say, "They're more euphoric." That's all personal stuff to each individual. But for me, those were what I found among many things because I can do stuff now that I couldn't do on cooked food... If I was on cooked food, then I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing, I wouldn't be exercising anywhere near the extent I am. And I know that for a fact because my motivation -- even when I was playing rugby, it was hard to motivate myself to get out there and do what I was supposed to be doing to the extent I was supposed to be doing. I can definitely say to other fruitarians, I can do so much more and plus I'm a lot older now. I'm 37 years old. So I'm at that age where on a cooked food diet, I should be slowing down. So, yes, that's one of the huge benefits for me. It's being more active and having the mindset -- being able to fulfill your mindset if you think something, now I could go out and do it; whereas, with cooked food, I'd be like, "Well I wish I could go hiking. I wish I could go out somewhere." Now, I go out and do it.
Kevin: Yes.
Richard: No messing around and it's great. It's so liberating.
Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 03:03 PM
Jericho Sunfire is Richard Blackman, he has been 100%raw food vegan and fruitarian for many years, and has detoxified on a very deep level, that takes years to do and changed the funtioning of his body, I also have been raw food vegan for many years, and I am not at the point where I could do this, or even fruitarianism heck most people don't even believe that you can live on a vegan or raw food diet and think fruitariansim is rubbish, let alone breatharianism. so just because it doesn't work for most people does not mean it doesn't work. YOu have to understand detoxification on a deep level, a 2 week juice fast does not do it. It can take several months or years, and you have to have faith, detoxification on a deep level can make you illl and detox on deep level can be dangerous for people with high level of toxins ie amalgam fillings, pharmaceutical drugs, vaccines etc. as well as chemcials and pesticides from food
most people who are eating conventional diets will not be able to transition to breatharianism even with the faith, he has transitioned over many years from raw vegan food to fruitarianism Whether he can do this long term at this point is also debateable, interesting to see though.
I agree that if breatharianism is possible, it probably requires a solid preparation. Otherwise it could be dangerous to try it.
My idea is that if I don't need to eat or drink for 2 weeks, then that is a very strong evidence for that it works. According to mainstream science, the human body can only handle 3 days without water or something like that. Two weeks without water should be impossible according to traditional understanding.
I have ZERO preparation in the form of diet, healthy nutrition, detox and things like that, but I have practiced Eckhart Tolle's inner body awareness and mindfulness for several years. So I use that as my preparation. Plus, and this is crucial I think, to start with the belief that it could work. If my mind is holding a firm belief that it's impossible, then it will hardly work I think.
fuggles
08-01-2010, 03:11 PM
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I wish you all the best of dumb luck with your retarded "Lightarian" rubbish. I hope you realise you have a serious disorder and should seek real help. You are nothing more than a member of another Starvation Cult that will only lead you to your ultimate demise. 2012? Aliens? Bollocks. None of that *** is real, and no, you aren't an alien either, dip-stick.
Lightarian is really code for "Deatharian", which is the path you're really on, but you are truly too ignorant, blind and arrogant to ever see that about yourself. So long, douche-bag.
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Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 04:03 PM
breatharians
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I wish you all the best of dumb luck with your retarded "Lightarian" rubbish. I hope you realise you have a serious disorder and should seek real help. You are nothing more than a member of another Starvation Cult that will only lead you to your ultimate demise. 2012? Aliens? Bollocks. None of that *** is real, and no, you aren't an alien either, dip-stick.
Lightarian is really code for "Deatharian", which is the path you're really on, but you are truly too ignorant, blind and arrogant to ever see that about yourself. So long, douche-bag.
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I'm skeptical about breatharianism myself. But I'm willing to give it a try. I think what they call prana is simply a connection to the zero point field which is the fabric of space and contains huge amounts of energy. Physical matter is like patterns in/of this field.
Ordinary physical sensations are also prana, and to live on prana would then be merely an extension of that.
Mainstream science still mostly deals with separate things. The new frontier in science is about interconnected fields, mind and information, such as described in this video called The Living Matrix:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=3A43149102A097DC&search_query=The+Living+Matrix+Part
fuggles
08-01-2010, 05:19 PM
lol
Have any of these people ever done this under 24/7 observation to back their claims that they are not eating or drinking? If not, file under "braggard" or "make-belief jack-ass", and move on move on move on.
measle_weasel
08-01-2010, 09:01 PM
This is just about as valid and confirmed as "sun gazing" for food, and "earthing". The fact that there is no one willing to prove their claims of being a breatharian under controlled conditions that would leave effectively zero possibility for any other conclusion other than you can live off air and air alone, should make it clear to anyone with a modicum of reason that the claimants are full of shit.
It would be very, very easy to test "breatharianism". Simply take some gurus who claim they can live off air and air alone, lock them into boxes at a secure location with nothing inside, in which fresh and dry air of a comfortable temperature is circulated. Wait one year. Come back, and open the boxes.
Its quite simple to prove, yet no one is willing to prove it; they just insist that you take their word for it. Go figure.
This is an interesting experiment Anders...look forward to the result if you're still with us in 2 weeks:eek: Stay well!
Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 10:30 PM
Have any of these people ever done this under 24/7 observation to back their claims that they are not eating or drinking? If not, file under "braggard" or "make-belief jack-ass", and move on move on move on.
In this video they test a guru for 10 days without water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewoDVPCLnt0
From the thread: http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=90644
I don't know how accurate or scientific the test was though.
armoured_amazon
08-01-2010, 10:31 PM
breatharians
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deatharians
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I wish you all the best of dumb luck with your retarded "Lightarian" rubbish. I hope you realise you have a serious disorder and should seek real help. You are nothing more than a member of another Starvation Cult that will only lead you to your ultimate demise. 2012? Aliens? Bollocks. None of that *** is real, and no, you aren't an alien either, dip-stick.
Lightarian is really code for "Deatharian", which is the path you're really on, but you are truly too ignorant, blind and arrogant to ever see that about yourself. So long, douche-bag.
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*chuckles quietly*
Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 10:35 PM
This is an interesting experiment Anders...look forward to the result if you're still with us in 2 weeks:eek: Stay well!
Yeah, that's what I thought too. If there really is any validity to the claim that breatharianism could work, then it would be very interesting (and easy) to test that for oneself. I will stop the test if I start to feel ill. These kinds of things should not be messed with lightly. :eek:
armoured_amazon
08-01-2010, 10:45 PM
Yeah, that's what I thought too. If there really is any validity to the claim that breatharianism could work, then it would be very interesting (and easy) to test that for oneself. I will stop the test if I start to feel ill. These kinds of things should not be messed with lightly. :eek:
Yes, make sure you do. :)
martg
08-01-2010, 10:47 PM
breatharians
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deatharians
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I wish you all the best of dumb luck with your retarded "Lightarian" rubbish. I hope you realise you have a serious disorder and should seek real help. You are nothing more than a member of another Starvation Cult that will only lead you to your ultimate demise. 2012? Aliens? Bollocks. None of that *** is real, and no, you aren't an alien either, dip-stick.
Lightarian is really code for "Deatharian", which is the path you're really on, but you are truly too ignorant, blind and arrogant to ever see that about yourself. So long, douche-bag.
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nice to see you keep an open mind :rolleyes:
Have any of these people ever done this under 24/7 observation to back their claims that they are not eating or drinking? If not, file under "braggard" or "make-belief jack-ass", and move on move on move on.
take a look at the case of Therese Neumann
from wikipedia:
In July 1927 a medical doctor and four Franciscan nurses kept a watch on her 24 hours a day for a two-week period. They confirmed that she had consumed nothing except for one consecrated sacred Host a day, and had suffered no ill effects, loss of weight, or dehydration.
(before you start on at me about wiki, you can check these facts in many places, this is a well known case)
Anders, i don't think you should carry out your experiment, it could have serious health risks, as gaias child mentioned breatharianism requires total preparation and a complete belief in it's validity.
Anders Lindman
08-01-2010, 10:54 PM
Anders, i don't think you should carry out your experiment, it could have serious health risks, as gaias child mentioned breatharianism requires total preparation and a complete belief in it's validity.
I wouldn't recommend people trying the experiment. My approach is to take one day at a time, and stop if I start to feel ill. I have practiced a lot with changing beliefs and inner body awareness so I hope I can sense fairly quickly if there is any danger. In that sense I have a lot of preparation.
martg
08-01-2010, 11:49 PM
I wouldn't recommend people trying the experiment. My approach is to take one day at a time, and stop if I start to feel ill. I have practiced a lot with changing beliefs and inner body awareness so I hope I can sense fairly quickly if there is any danger. In that sense I have a lot of preparation.
ok, look after yourself, all the best :)
Anders Lindman
09-01-2010, 06:38 AM
Now almost one day without food and water. I feel a little bit of hunger and thirst, but not very much. Also kind of fresh energy in the chest area. That's good. If this breatharian stuff will make one feel bad, then that's a warning signal.
Anders Lindman
09-01-2010, 12:18 PM
From a scientific perspective, when it comes to water I guess the body can absorb it from the air, just like the device that's promoted on the Alex Jones show that can extract several gallons of water per day from the air.
But what about minerals? Take calcium for example. Calcium is needed in teeth, bones, nerves, muscles etc. I doubt that there is much calcium in the air. Can the body really produce calcium out of thin air? Sounds miraculous. One scientific explanation could be that the body can create atoms directly out of the zero point field. That would require something similar to a sub-nanotech device interacting directly with the zero point field and being able to shape it into atoms.
eustacekidd
09-01-2010, 08:32 PM
Why isn't this seen anywhere else in the animal kingdom?
delamo1999
09-01-2010, 08:57 PM
breatharians
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deatharians
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I wish you all the best of dumb luck with your retarded "Lightarian" rubbish. I hope you realise you have a serious disorder and should seek real help. You are nothing more than a member of another Starvation Cult that will only lead you to your ultimate demise. 2012? Aliens? Bollocks. None of that *** is real, and no, you aren't an alien either, dip-stick.
Lightarian is really code for "Deatharian", which is the path you're really on, but you are truly too ignorant, blind and arrogant to ever see that about yourself. So long, douche-bag.
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If you don't believe in the Breathanian lifestyle, then don't do it. However, don't knock down those who want to do it. After all everyone has free agency, just like those who choose to eat at mcdonalds.
To each as own.
;);)
delamo1999
09-01-2010, 09:12 PM
Jericho Sunfire is Richard Blackman, he has been 100%raw food vegan and fruitarian for many years, and has detoxified on a very deep level, that takes years to do and changed the funtioning of his body, I also have been raw food vegan for many years, and I am not at the point where I could do this, or even fruitarianism heck most people don't even believe that you can live on a vegan or raw food diet and think fruitariansim is rubbish, let alone breatharianism. so just because it doesn't work for most people does not mean it doesn't work. YOu have to understand detoxification on a deep level, a 2 week juice fast does not do it. It can take several months or years, and you have to have faith, detoxification on a deep level can make you illl and detox on deep level can be dangerous for people with high level of toxins ie amalgam fillings, pharmaceutical drugs, vaccines etc. as well as chemcials and pesticides from food
most people who are eating conventional diets will not be able to transition to breatharianism even with the faith, he has transitioned over many years from raw vegan food to fruitarianism Whether he can do this long term at this point is also debateable, interesting to see though.
Gaias, I want to thank you and Anders for posting this information regarding breathenians. I have known about this lifestyle for 15 years and have always wondered about it. I see myself one day trying it (currently I have been vegan for many years and have tried the raw diet). It's great to see that others are doing very well with it. This to me is promising.
:)
girlgye
09-01-2010, 11:45 PM
Actually judging by her body mass index one doesn't have to be a nutritionist to see she's a phoney.
She made headlines in Austrailia about 15 years ago because someone as dim as the topic starter launched full scale into starvation and prahna energy exercise and died based on her premise.
I know one of the leading skeptics who exposed her at the time and he tells me she refused to be subject to the rigours of science and they could not watch her constantly and thus she was classified as a fake and her and all the self obsessed attention she wrought died with her. As with most narcisscists though it looks like she has resurfaced again.
This stuff is very real for the very rare Indian Yogi who attains it but we are talking preparation since birth for that type of lifestyle.
I see this type of stuff from time to time and sure enough it is just glossed up anorexia.
Anders Lindman
10-01-2010, 01:36 AM
Why isn't this seen anywhere else in the animal kingdom?
Imagine a lion being a breatharian. :D Some people, I don't remember if it's some Christians or some other religion, talk about that there will be a time on Earth when the lion will not eat the lamb.
Evolution has been driven by animals eating other animals or plants. We humans generally still follow that same pattern. Some breatharians talk about not having to eat being the next step in human evolution. According to mainstream science, the idea is utterly ludicrous, and I totally agree from a conventional point of view.
There is a very high chance that breatharianism is a total fraud. Yet, I like the idea, so I remain open to it (with the disclaimer that I still am highly skeptical about it).
Anders Lindman
10-01-2010, 03:56 AM
Actually judging by her body mass index one doesn't have to be a nutritionist to see she's a phoney.
She made headlines in Austrailia about 15 years ago because someone as dim as the topic starter launched full scale into starvation and prahna energy exercise and died based on her premise.
I know one of the leading skeptics who exposed her at the time and he tells me she refused to be subject to the rigours of science and they could not watch her constantly and thus she was classified as a fake and her and all the self obsessed attention she wrought died with her. As with most narcisscists though it looks like she has resurfaced again.
This stuff is very real for the very rare Indian Yogi who attains it but we are talking preparation since birth for that type of lifestyle.
I see this type of stuff from time to time and sure enough it is just glossed up anorexia.
This video exposes Jasmuheen to be a fraud and even accuses her of being a cult leader:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8060648983626971848
My guess is that she is not a fraud or cult leader, but somewhat deluded. I will still try this breatharian thing though. Because I'm not absolutely sure that all of it is a fraud or delusion. I don't trust gurus nor media.
Anders Lindman
10-01-2010, 06:40 AM
I have now stopped my experiment. I was still not very hungry or thirsty, but started to feel emotionally not very well. I still believe breatharianism could be possible though.
whiterain
10-01-2010, 04:48 PM
if it is possible, i dont think its the kindd of thing you can practice and learn. more like when you reach a certain level of advancement, you will also realise you no longer have the same needs from food. ive felt at stages of an acid trip that i was just absorbing energy from all around me, however im not sure if this was just feeding my soul energetically or actually helping power my body too
ps well done for trying though anders ;) ive been experimenting with sleep deprivation this weekend and its definately helping me push on. crazy dreams and a big help with meditation
Anders Lindman
11-01-2010, 02:33 AM
if it is possible, i dont think its the kindd of thing you can practice and learn. more like when you reach a certain level of advancement, you will also realise you no longer have the same needs from food. ive felt at stages of an acid trip that i was just absorbing energy from all around me, however im not sure if this was just feeding my soul energetically or actually helping power my body too
ps well done for trying though anders ;) ive been experimenting with sleep deprivation this weekend and its definately helping me push on. crazy dreams and a big help with meditation
Yes, maybe something the body/consciousness can evolve into. Or through very advanced technology such as intelligent matter enhancing the cells in the body.
muddyleopard
11-01-2010, 02:44 AM
I have now stopped my experiment. I was still not very hungry or thirsty, but started to feel emotionally not very well. I still believe breatharianism could be possible though.
From the time between your posts, it looks like you survived simply on prana for over 2 hours. The words 'Lucy' and 'Wardrobe' come to mind.
muddyleopard
11-01-2010, 02:45 AM
Why isn't this seen anywhere else in the animal kingdom?
I believe the dodo tried.
Anders Lindman
11-01-2010, 03:51 AM
From the time between your posts, it looks like you survived simply on prana for over 2 hours. The words 'Lucy' and 'Wardrobe' come to mind.
For 2 days. My plan was 14 days. :D
After two days I started to feel bitter (and other negative emotions). Not good, so I stopped the exercise. The almost scary thing is that I can still feel the bitterness. So the experiment probably didn't cause me to feel that, it only uncovered the bitterness!
accuracy
11-01-2010, 04:50 AM
Breatharians claim that they can live only on breathing without eating or drinking. That sounds totally outrageous to me, but it could be possible! Jericho Sunfire, a breatharian and former rugby player said that it took him 2-3 weeks for his organs to adjust to the breatharian mode. And after that his body felt lighter he said. He also said that it's possible to increase muscle mass through only breathing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvviIS-y0W0
Other people, such as Jasmuheen, say that they can live on prana, the life force.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ub0wyqYo0o
It should be easy to test the validity of this. I will try to not eat or drink for two weeks (don't try this at home kids, it could be very dangerous). If I feel good and healthy after two weeks, then that's enough proof for me. :D
Waaaay too boring of a lifestyle for me (if its true)
:D
Anders Lindman
11-01-2010, 06:19 AM
Waaaay too boring of a lifestyle for me (if its true)
:D
The thing that interested me is that breatharians can eat if the want to but they don't have to. Usually we don't have a choice. It's either eat and drink or die. That's a very limited way of living. I like to stuff myself with lots of food and drink sometimes, and to not be able to eat or drink at all would be tremendously boring.
I also believe it's possible for the body to eat a lot and still be healthy and fit. But that we need some form of upgrade for that, and perhaps the same with breatharianism.
Mainstream science is moving faster and faster into improvement of the biology of the body. For example, Ray Kurzweil talked about nanosites that could improve the red blood cells so that we can sit at the bottom of a pool for 4 hours or run a marathon in 15 minutes. And that's a simple example of the new technologies that already are appearing, at least in laboratories.
What I want is to have a body that can eat whatever I want and also not needing to eat at all if I don't want to. And that the body remains super healthy. Maybe we need advanced nanotechnology for that, or a more evolved consciousness, or both because they are related.
gaias child
11-01-2010, 02:08 PM
Why isn't this seen anywhere else in the animal kingdom?
Actually it is, lots of animals hibernate for half the year, so basically they are breatharian for half of their lives, they live without food and water during the period they are hibernating. Does that prove to you that it is possible to live for periods with food and water if a creature is adapted to it.
I can remember watching some documentary where these crocodiles had lost their water and had gone underground and they were suriviving on vegetarian plant and insect food and over years had adapted to different life style and became smaller, noone even knew of their existence and they were believed to have died out and were discovered by accident when someone was investigating something else.
There are so many things that we do understand or even know about.
gaias child
11-01-2010, 02:12 PM
Gaias, I want to thank you and Anders for posting this information regarding breathenians. I have known about this lifestyle for 15 years and have always wondered about it. I see myself one day trying it (currently I have been vegan for many years and have tried the raw diet). It's great to see that others are doing very well with it. This to me is promising.
:)
You are welcome, I'm glad it helped, I find it quite inspiring actually, the belief that these latent powers are within us we just don't really know how to tap into it.
I remember reading Hilton Hotemas book in depth on this subject, years back. Man's higher consciousness, He was not breatharian but fruitarian but believed breathariann was originally our natural state, maybe it is not true I do not know, but I certainly don't rule it out either
jolinemaria
11-01-2010, 04:06 PM
I have now stopped my experiment. I was still not very hungry or thirsty, but started to feel emotionally not very well. I still believe breatharianism could be possible though.
You really have to believe it is possible on every level of your being.
If you have some doubts, like where must the calcium come from, then it won't work. Trying can bring alot of doubts and emotional issues to the surface. A great way to find out what is still bothering you.
I tried it 5 years ago. Didn't eat for 3 weeks. I felt great and resolved some deep hidden issues. But there was a lot more lurking in the dark and it wasn't my time to adress it all, so I lost too much weight and had to start eating again.
I have no desire to try again, but I do the sungazing (whenever there is sun in this country). The sungazing feels like a more natural, gradual flow into the idea that cosmic energy can heal and sustain me.
Are you happy you tried?
measle_weasel
11-01-2010, 05:18 PM
Actually it is, lots of animals hibernate for half the year, so basically they are breatharian for half of their lives, they live without food and water during the period they are hibernating. Does that prove to you that it is possible to live for periods with food and water if a creature is adapted to it.
No, they are not basicly breatharian. Breatharian is when you are extracting energy from nothing but air, in which hibernating creatures most certainly are not doing. They are extracting energy from their fat reserves, and would die if they did not start to eat again from starvation.
Hibernation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
lordzoma
11-01-2010, 05:42 PM
Here's the thing.
In case anyone didn't notice the body is made up of matter.
Unless you take matter in you can't put matter out.
Your body cycles through cells ALL the time. Especially the skin.
So energy directly into matter conversion in the human body?
I don't think so.
eat less yes. Drink less, sure. Eat nothing drink nothing - get real.
Anders Lindman
11-01-2010, 07:24 PM
Here's the thing.
In case anyone didn't notice the body is made up of matter.
Unless you take matter in you can't put matter out.
Your body cycles through cells ALL the time. Especially the skin.
So energy directly into matter conversion in the human body?
I don't think so.
eat less yes. Drink less, sure. Eat nothing drink nothing - get real.
Of course, but what is matter? My guess is that matter is 'simply' vibrations in the zero point field. That physical matter is only solid in the sense in how it behaves. If I for example drop a rock on my foot it will behave as being solid.
To create physical matter out of 'empty' space should therefore be possible, at least in theory.
lordzoma
12-01-2010, 04:24 AM
Possible, yes. Within the capability of a physical human body? Mayyyyybe.
Anders Lindman
12-01-2010, 07:24 PM
Possible, yes. Within the capability of a physical human body? Mayyyyybe.
Yeah, it would likely require a very advanced level of consciousness, if possible at all. Or technology. Today mainstream science is as far as I know a long way from doing things like creating matter. The interesting thing is that the progress is not linear, which means that 100 years of development thousands of years ago, is not the same as 100 years of development in recent years. The process is accelerating all the time. Actually not only technology but also evolution as a whole. It's just that biological evolution has moved slowly even though it actually follows the same kind of curve.
http://www.mindfully.org/Technology/2003/Singularity-Bell1may03.GIF
gaias child
17-01-2010, 01:24 PM
No, they are not basicly breatharian. Breatharian is when you are extracting energy from nothing but air, in which hibernating creatures most certainly are not doing. They are extracting energy from their fat reserves, and would die if they did not start to eat again from starvation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation
I agree what you say is true to some degree. Remember the hibernating animals are also living without water for at least 6 months, yet apparently it is impossible to live without water for more than a few days?
eustacekidd
17-01-2010, 03:06 PM
I agree what you say is true to some degree. Remember the hibernating animals are also living without water for at least 6 months, yet apparently it is impossible to live without water for more than a few days?
The slow down of their metabolism and sustenance on a food water supply stored up in their bodies before hand makes them very fragile while hibernating. If you disturb a hibernating animal the shock could easily kill it. As far as I know no primates hibernate so it is different for us.
fuggles
20-01-2010, 01:47 AM
bumping so more people can read my first message on the first page
eustacekidd
20-01-2010, 07:32 PM
bumping so more people can read my first message on the first page
You shouldn't bump a thread if there is no further discussion and you have nothing to add, it makes you look stupid and attention seeking.
fuggles
21-01-2010, 02:10 AM
Yes, I want attention, get over it , its a human need
pessi_optimist
22-01-2010, 10:53 PM
Lol^^^
The reason it isn't seen in the animal kingdom is perhaps because they are less conscious than us. Their lives are strictly about mating and eating. And hibernation isn't proof of anything.
We are clearly meant to eat food. I have no idea what the goal of breatharianism is, perhaps to attain higher consciousness, or to attain a level of purity...but then again, what is the frigging point. One may aswell not exist as a human being if this is your mind-set. We'll be spirit when we die, and this is essentially what you are yearning for if you follow this path, in my VERY humble opinion. It's possible to be not attached to food and still eat
Anyway, it's a personal choice what anyone wants to do, i think it's absurd and pointless, but that's just me. I do however recommend fasting. 2 days is nothing, i think you may just be overly attached to food and thus the negative thoughts came flowin in.
In summary, food is fan-fucking-tastic. I am privileged in this life to be able to taste really good food occasionally, and eat very well. One can attain a level of spirituality, or whatever you call it, and enjoy the sensing pleasure of the world. I hate all this divisive and categorised bullshit...
Anders Lindman
23-01-2010, 08:06 AM
Survivors in Haiti after 10 days without food or water! :eek: They probably were not in very good condition after that but still. I find that amazing.
Maybe I should try the breatharian experiment again. :D
Anders Lindman
23-01-2010, 08:33 AM
When you eat you will get thirsty. And when you drink you will get hungry. So the trick for easy breatharianism is to stay away from both drinking and eating. I guess. :confused: And to remain firm in acceptance of providence. ;)
eustacekidd
23-01-2010, 03:41 PM
Survivors in Haiti after 10 days without food or water! :eek: They probably were not in very good condition after that but still. I find that amazing.
Maybe I should try the breatharian experiment again. :D
I don't think so, the fact that they survived means they were able to secure small portions of food and water, most likely by any means necessary.
Anders Lindman
23-01-2010, 04:16 PM
I don't think so, the fact that they survived means they were able to secure small portions of food and water, most likely by any means necessary.
They said that they survived for 10 days on the news (I heard it on the Fox radio news). Here is another example of a similar story:
"PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — An Israeli search team pulled a severely dehydrated 21-year-old man from the rubble of his bedroom a staggering 10 days after an earthquake leveled much of the Haitian capital."
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world-latinamerica/20100123/CB.Haiti.Rescues/
Severely dehydrated. Doesn't sound too pleasant. Still quite amazing I think.
measle_weasel
23-01-2010, 06:33 PM
They said that they survived for 10 days on the news (I heard it on the Fox radio news). Here is another example of a similar story:
"PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — An Israeli search team pulled a severely dehydrated 21-year-old man from the rubble of his bedroom a staggering 10 days after an earthquake leveled much of the Haitian capital."
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-world-latinamerica/20100123/CB.Haiti.Rescues/
Severely dehydrated. Doesn't sound too pleasant. Still quite amazing I think.
The world record for going without water is something like 18 days. The "3 days and your dead without water, no exceptions" urban myth is just that.
Ten days without water does not suggest people are gaining sustenance from the air. It simply suggests that they are dying more slowly than others.
I know a woman who did this for 21 days.
First 10 days she thought she'd die and that her organs are going to explode.
Than everything stopped. Unbearable pain and the weight loss.
She started to feel great.
I don't know why she started again to eat 'normal' food and drink water, but she proved that living on prana is possible.
measle_weasel
23-01-2010, 06:48 PM
I know a woman who did this for 21 days.
First 10 days she thought she'd die and that her organs are going to explode.
Than everything stopped. Unbearable pain and the weight loss.
She started to feel great.
I don't know why she started again to eat 'normal' food and drink water, but she proved that living on prana is possible.
She didnt prove anything other than that she has an incredibly efficient body. And she probably started eating again because, *gasp*, *shock*, she actually felt her body truly DYING. Proving that you can live off "prana" would take something more like going an entire YEAR without any food, or any water. I suggested an experiment that could be very easily set up and done in this thread, but you will never see anyone volunteer for it, because they know that in a controlled setting, they would die without being able to sneak in little bits of moisture here and there.
eustacekidd
23-01-2010, 07:01 PM
I know a woman who did this for 21 days.
First 10 days she thought she'd die and that her organs are going to explode.
Than everything stopped. Unbearable pain and the weight loss.
She started to feel great.
I don't know why she started again to eat 'normal' food and drink water, but she proved that living on prana is possible.
Unprovable, I know a guy who knows a guy who can spin webs and walk on walls, he dresses funny and makes funny quips, his family are very worried about him. As for the guy in Haiti, turns out he got by drinking his own urine, as I said, you'll do what you have to to survive!
gaias child
29-03-2010, 01:32 PM
Some more new videos by Jericho on the process of his fruitarian journey which was many years, then to liquid and then breatharian and how he got there. He had no plan , he was actually against it originally but it just evolved that way.
BTW he says he is not advising anyone to do it and it won't be for most people. I find it very interesting and inspiring.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
totalrecall
29-03-2010, 02:39 PM
This stuff is very real for the very rare Indian Yogi who attains it but we are talking preparation since birth for that type of lifestyle.
Indeed.
I think this may be the "running before you can walk" or those people who hop about in a yogic position trying to fly. If I tried to fly by jumping out of a window, I wouldn't. If I tried to live without food, I would die.
If I had attained such a mental/emotional and physical state then yes I could do it. But it would probably take many many years of practice and dedication.
I think, maybe one small process or development would lead to another and intuition would lead me naturally to do it, if that was my path.
But NO cold turkey, that is for sure.
lovely2510
13-04-2011, 06:14 AM
Breatharians claim that they can live only on breathing without eating or drinking. That sounds totally outrageous to me, but it could be possible! Jericho Sunfire, a breatharian and former rugby player said that it took him 2-3 weeks for his organs to adjust to the breatharian mode. And after that his body felt lighter he said. He also said that it's possible to increase muscle mass through only breathing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvviIS-y0W0
Other people, such as Jasmuheen, say that they can live on prana, the life force.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ub0wyqYo0o
It should be easy to test the validity of this. I will try to not eat or drink for two weeks (don't try this at home kids, it could be very dangerous). If I feel good and healthy after two weeks, then that's enough proof for me. :D
Check this site also http://www.whatifthemovie.tv, a man name Hira Ratan Manek, was interviewed and says he live through light and air, no food in takes for 411 days.
jconnar
13-04-2011, 06:33 AM
Why isn't this seen anywhere else in the animal kingdom?
Hibernation is a state of inactivity and metabolic depression in animals, characterized by lower body temperature, slower breathing, and lower metabolic rate. Hibernating animals conserve food, especially during winter when food supplies are limited, tapping energy reserves, body fat, at a slow rate. It is the animal's slowed metabolic rate which leads to a reduction in body temperature and not the other way around.
Hibernation may last several days or weeks depending on species, ambient temperature, and time of year, and fur on the animal's body. The typical winter season for a hibernator is characterized by periods of hibernation interrupted by sporadic euthermic arousals wherein body temperature is restored to typical levels. There is a hypothesis that hibernators build a need for sleep during hibernation more slowly than normally, and must occasionally warm up in order to eat. This has been supported by some evidence in the arctic ground squirrel.
Put yourself into a coma with meditation. lol
spondres
13-04-2011, 10:44 AM
BBC News from 2000 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/674934.stm)
lovely2510
12-05-2011, 10:55 AM
I have now stopped my experiment. I was still not very hungry or thirsty, but started to feel emotionally not very well. I still believe breatharianism could be possible though.
I also believe that breatharianism (http://www.whatifthemovie.tv) can be possible, we just need patience and practice until we can perfect it.