Poll: Apple Microsoft Linux Other

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Poll:What Operating System do you use?

1. APPLE

2. MICROSOFT

3. LINUX

4. OTHER

Demographically, this Board is comprised of a majority of Open-Minded, Free-Thinking and Enlightened Posters.

Apple OS enjoys patronage of about 5% of the General Population, I am curious if this percentage would be greater amongst this population.

Thank You & Kind Regards: Snoopsuffleopagus

[adimon]

...and havent looked back.

Thanks snoop for the opportunity to plug Linux, I think far more people should try it.

When I first switched, some hardware was problematic with Linux and you had to fuck around with it. Nowadays it's much easier.

For newbies I'd suggest Ubuntu by far over other Linux distributions. If you buy from Dell, you can get a PC with Ubuntu already installed.

Here's a clip comparing Vista with Ubuntu. Some of what is shown is gimmicky and some of it requires a bit of playing around with, but here are the main advantages as I see it.

1. It's safer. Against the hardcore hackers you'll never be 100% safe, but it's certainly 1000s of times safer than Microsoft will ever be. What's more, with Windows, the License Agreement permits them to access your PC at any time and make changes without your knowledge. Not so with Linux.

2. It updates faster. 6 years between XP and Vista is a loooong time. OK, they release Service Packs and Hotfixes, but it's still essentially the same OS. Most mainstream Linux distributions update every few months at the most, and the progress of new applications and new functionality, is a lot faster. It's also way ahead of Windows. Vista is only starting to catch up on stuff you could do 3 years ago with Linux.

3. It's free. Forever. So are any programs you install. Forever.

4. You can run Windows programs on Linux, and open Microsoft Office files. Can you open Linux files in Windows. Microsoft won't even acknowledge they are there.

5. It has great support, with dedicated forums of expert users, rather than call-centre idiots (I've worked in call-centres so I can say this).

6. I know I posted this link on another thread earlier, so apologies to those who saw it then, but do you really want to keep this guy (video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1274983729713522403) in a job?

Anyone who has any issues with Linux is welcome to contact me. I hope some of you give it a try. You'll love it. :cool:

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!, Adimon:

Thank you for your insights and input. I admire abilities I myself do not possess. As the Board has probably noticed, I am clueless as to posting Cut & Paste, even using Photoshop, I could not produce an avatar.

I purchased my first computer at 50 years of age, never 'thought' I 'needed' one. Now I am Hooked on digital photography. I am able to take good pictures and print them(epson 2200). And have decent skills with photoshop elements.

My reason to go with Apple was the fact I was a total novice, they have a Store nearby, so if problems arose they were closeby. The stores also offer PRO-Care for 100$ a year which provides one on one private tutorials in the store with their experts. No limits(within reason). Also felt I would not be able to defend against virii and spyware etc. Its been 3+ years no problems.

Also OSX may be utilised at all levels of skill, from novice, to creating applescripts to entering commands directly into 'Terminal'.

I have been favorably impressed.

Thanks Again Adimon, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[adimon]

Also OSX may be utilised at all levels of skill, from novice, to creating applescripts to entering commands directly into 'Terminal'.

Yeah OSX isn't bad, but not as configurable or customisable for my liking. Glad to hear you're not shying away from computers in your OLD age! :D

[armoured saint]

I've been wanting to put Linux on my spare PC for some time now but I need to get some components. I've got Gentoo Linux, but what concerns me is hackers.

Does anyone have information on protecting yourself against hackers and more importantly what it is that hackers can actually do? Can they look into your documents such as resumes, can they get Microsoft registration information and what about message boards and sites that run off servers that require logins and passwords. Are lengthy passwords (non dictionary words, alphanumeric with some capital) enough to stop hackers getting into these servers as well?

Information appreciated. I've got one person on another message board who has informed me and threatened me with libel and that he has my name and address.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!, Armoured Saint:

I am utterly clueless as to your technical queries, but I would say: Don't let that Crumb bug your mind. Most threats are baseless bluffs. To be safe, I am sure you must back-up important information.

I have external harddrives where I store my important information and leave very little on my computer.

Perhaps Adimon will see this, as he seems very knowledgeable about Linux and may be able to answer your queries.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[rhodiola]

I use a MacBook and it's far better than Windows, (Mac OS X is) and when I finally get a desktop I'll use an 'alternative' OS like a linux distribution or BeOS, I'll check them all out and see which one I prefer. Mac OS X is good for making music, and photography (Logic and Aperture.)

The only reason to use Windows imho is for games (they generally require windows) and other Windows-only software, so I'd probably get a copy of windows as well, just for playing games.

[rhodiola]

I've been wanting to put Linux on my spare PC for some time now but I need to get some components. I've got Gentoo Linux, but what concerns me is hackers.

Does anyone have information on protecting yourself against hackers and more importantly what it is that hackers can actually do? Can they look into your documents such as resumes, can they get Microsoft registration information and what about message boards and sites that run off servers that require logins and passwords. Are lengthy passwords (non dictionary words, alphanumeric with some capital) enough to stop hackers getting into these servers as well?

Information appreciated. I've got one person on another message board who has informed me and threatened me with libel and that he has my name and address.

Linux is generally much more secure than Windows, and how could someone know your real name and address?

Edit: and the best passwords are ones with a mix of special characters, numbers, letters in both cases, eg. 4£2rfF567jH£$.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!, Rhodiola:

My understanding is the latest Macs will operate OSX, Vista and Linux, all on one platform.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[pumma]

Poll:What Operating System do you use?

1. APPLE

2. MICROSOFT

3. LINUX

4. OTHER

Demographically, this Board is comprised of a majority of Open-Minded, Free-Thinking and Enlightened Posters.

Apple OS enjoys patronage of about 5% of the General Population, I am curious if this percentage would be greater amongst this population.

Thank You & Kind Regards: Snoopsuffleopagus
Non of the above are operating systems...

Micro$oft = corporation that manipulates ignorant people to buy their non-working, expsensive products...
Apple = corporation (same as above but their produtcs work longer and faster)
Linux = is just a OS Kernel (central component > a.k.a. the heart of a Operating System).

It should be like this:

Windoze: (currently fully supported 5 versions of Vista)
The only 2 older Win versions that have Extended Support is Win2000 (till 2010) and WinXP (till 2014). Thats 7 versions to choose from...

Mac OS X: Only one (latest stable) OS to choose.

But The Penguin comes with over 500+ flavours (distros) to choose from...

I stay with the 3rd option, because I can modify everything, see every bit of code changed in my system, nothing is hidden, total control of the OS, stable, reliable, up-time over 100 days, etc...

Beeing #root since 2003 :p;) (Freedom!)

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!, Pumma:

Shiver me Timbers! Not operating Systems? :eek:

Whaddaiknow? i'm a Novice.

I do know Apple used the Technology developed by Bell Laboratories, UNIX.

Is UNIX an Operating System? I have very little understanding of Codes and Kernels, most of my life I have been a Non-Violent Luddite.

Thank You for your insights and input, I do admire your facility with this Technology.

What is Penguin? Never heard of it, is it a form of Linux?

As a Novice, may I inquire of you why they are commonly referred to as Operating Systems?

Again, thank you & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[pumma]

Cordial Felicitations!, Pumma:

Shiver me Timbers! Not operating Systems? :eek:

Whaddaiknow? i'm a Novice.

I do know Apple used the Technology developed by Bell Laboratories, UNIX.

Is UNIX an Operating System? I have very little understanding of Codes and Kernels, most of my life I have been a Non-Violent Luddite.

Thank You for your insights and input, I do admire your facility with this Technology.

What is Penguin? Never heard of it, is it a form of Linux?

As a Novice, may I inquire of you why they are commonly referred to as Operating Systems?

Again, thank you & Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

(Blue = Linux)

Depending on the context, the word "Linux" describes a couple of things. Most accurately, the word "Linux" describes an operating system kernel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computer_science)) -- that is, the low-level part of an operating system that does all the hard work of talking to the computer's hardware, managing memory and devices, and generally doing the grunt work. Unless you are an advanced user, or you run into some sort of hardware or software problem, you'll almost never interact or even need to think about the kernel itself.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/Kernel.png

While it's a very important part of the system, it's not something that users interact with directly. Instead, you'll be working with what are referred to as "user-space" programs -- so called because users actually work with the programs directly. When a vendor or project bundles the Linux kernel and a bunch of user-space programs together in a way that's useful to end users, that's called a Linux distribution, often just "Linux" for short -- because Linux is at the heart of the whole thing to begin with, and saying "Linux distribution" every time is a bit long winded. Generally speaking, when people say something like "I use Linux," or "have you tried Linux?" they're not just talking about the kernel, they're talking about a Linux distribution.

Speaking of Linux distributions, you might be wondering what the heck a distribution actually is. It's pretty simple, really. As we've already discussed, the Linux kernel itself isn't terribly useful for end users on its own. You can't play Tetris, write a document, serve Web pages, or send an email with the Linux kernel itself -- and what use is a computer if you can't do those things?

So, lots of vendors and projects have decided to put the Linux kernel together with useful software so that folks like you can get things done. They also provide installation routines, so you can install Linux on a computer, and management utilities so you can do things like add and manage devices, or manage users, without having to know low-level commands or do the grunt work with a text editor and the command line. When you put the Linux kernel together with useful software, an installer, and management utilities, you have a Linux distribution.

More info >>> Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Penguin >>> Tux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!, Pumma:

I believe I see my error, you are correct. I will study this as it is very interesting.

I will be purchasing my second computer soon, an iMac 24", I am considering having Vista and a Linux thingy added to the 'puter.

I would like to sample all three technologies. I have found UNIX to be quite impressive for what I do, primarily photography and a little music.

It has been a pleasant experience so far.

Many Thanks for your reply!, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[adimon]

The only reason to use Windows imho is for games (they generally require windows) and other Windows-only software, so I'd probably get a copy of windows as well, just for playing games.

Actually, you can play Windows games in Linux.

Watch these

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPPcwKmFp3E&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVwQLM4jgd8&mode=related&search=

[megafish33]

Windows... probably a cause of the majority of my stress, anger and acid indigestion lol For personal use I think I'll take another look at Linux again.

Want to buy a Mac really bad...

[majicdragon]

been using a MacBookPro for the last year. Very happy with the os X. Major upgrade coming next month. Doubles the speed of many (most) applications.:D

[armoured saint]

Cordial Felicitations!, Armoured Saint:

I am utterly clueless as to your technical queries, but I would say: Don't let that Crumb bug your mind. Most threats are baseless bluffs. To be safe, I am sure you must back-up important information.

I have external harddrives where I store my important information and leave very little on my computer.

Perhaps Adimon will see this, as he seems very knowledgeable about Linux and may be able to answer your queries.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

Thanks for the heads up.

[armoured saint]

Linux is generally much more secure than Windows, and how could someone know your real name and address?

Edit: and the best passwords are ones with a mix of special characters, numbers, letters in both cases, eg. 4£2rfF567jH£$.

Well, that's why I'd like to know more about the capabilities of hackers. He may have got my full name from my system properties or registration or some Microsoft server. From there, perhaps a phone book or some other database perhaps.

[deca]

I am using windows XP at the moment, just because its easy and most things
are tailored to work on it, being lazy.

Used to dual boot xp/ linux but lack of hard disk space is stopping me, plus had problems because I bought a sata drive, never had problems with an IDE installing linux don`t know if things have changed .

Also had problems getting games to work, was a big fan of cs source, I know its possible to get it to run on linux but had problems.Also installing software can be a nightmare !!!

Think linux is the way to go thou,but it is a bit of a shock moving from windows point and click, as you have to, learn a bit about how you pc works(not a bad thing),But you do end up knowing more and feel in control:)

[serpentoffire]

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/061121/174954__happyfeet_rep_l.jpg

[auron]

http://coreyclaytonlnp.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/commodore64setup.jpeg

[father ted]

Auron, you must have been the coolest kid on the block in the 80's, I had an atari. I've played a commodore many times, there's some cool games on it, but that tape deck you've got next to it is just space age.

[auron]

Auron, you must have been the coolest kid on the block in the 80's, I had an atari. I've played a commodore many times, there's some cool games on it, but that tape deck you've got next to it is just space age.
Well maybe a little later than that! I got one in 1990. I was 6. :D

[thirdwave]

I think the whole Microsoft are spying ...so on .. thing is a little bit off track...

Yes they are an elite company.... yes they want control.... and yes they will be doing stuff to invade our privacy...

but if anyone thinks they need to get control of all the updates and security stuff to do that I think they are wrong....

what ever system you are using I think they can tap into it and look at every single thing you have done.... its a computer at the end of the day and they can control any computer I think....

I think you don't even have to be online to have your PC hacked into.... at the end of the day you can physically hook things up to a PC to get it on line... so im sure you can wireless do it as well.... especially using advanced stuff...

I think all Microsoft want is they want to have as much control as possible so that more people want to use Microsoft as its most suited to other companies software and the most compatible.... so its more a power thing..

[auron]

Hehe! They should see my e-book list. :D

[i am all i am]

I LOVE YOU.

G'day All.

Hah, when I was growing up, my sister talked my mum into purchasing the Vic20, which is a totally crappier version of the Commodore 64. I think it only had about 1.2MB of memory and used a tape deck to load games or programs. I basically never used it because it was so crap.

THANK YOU.



http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S34.gif With LOVE http://www.lifeshore.com/smiley/data/media/3/3D_emoticon_S36.gif

[thirdwave]

we had an Sinclare Spectrum

it actually had some pretty good games!

then I remember when the SEGA master system came out and I was in Aww or the color!

[deca]

I had a beeb ,
http://blog.jobsite.co.uk/tris/archives/bbc.jpg 8bit days

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations!. 2 All:

Thank You for your responses. The information provided by the Linux users
definitely indicate Open Minds, Free Thinking and Pro-Activeness. Wonderful qualities in this common era.

2 Auron: Another post you mentioned you use a windows server, I am down in the woods on a dark and cloudy day as to this technology, but I have been informed that is a superior way to utilize windows.

I love the photos of the 'Antique' 'puters. How far we have come!

2 Thirdwave: I agree as to the security issue. Having experience with ONI(youknowwho), we should be 'wise' how we utilize our 'puters, online or off.

Thank You all again for your responses, very informative!

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Linux...

A few reasons for this aswell.


1: For the first time when I read about Linux and what exactly the open-source community and FSF was, I fell in-love with it. I am in huge support of open source software. I think it's better not just for the fact of knowledge, but also to teach people to share and such.

2: Anti-Microsoft. From the day I had heard about how Bill Gates came up with Windows (stolen from Apple, and Apple stole it from a small Seattle based company) it just killed me.

3: Anti -Apple.. One word when I think of Apple: Fascist!


I do ofter use Windows for playing games and such, but I also enjoy using Linux for little things here and there aswell.

And BTW thirdwave.

No, Microsoft can not just brake in to any computer. I'll find the story for you,
http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-admin-monitored-by-us-government-forced-to-dump-linux/

This guy was caught up-loading a movie onto the internet, and when they told him they would track him, he said cool. However, the government only has trackers for Windows, not Ubuntu Linux. So, now he has to change his OS. And why? Because Linux has VERY STRICT policies about 3rd party connections. And no back doors.

[adimon]

Hah, when I was growing up, my sister talked my mum into purchasing the Vic20, which is a totally crappier version of the Commodore 64. I think it only had about 1.2MB of memory and used a tape deck to load games or programs. I basically never used it because it was so crap.


Hey, I'm obviously not quite as old as you IAAIA, since this beauty was the first that I had. It was fun! :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sinclair_ZX81.jpg

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Cordial Felicitations! His Lorship:

You are right about Jobs: "You can put your WHOLE LIFE on the iPhone".

The Hubris

Agape, Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

[dude111]

I voted "Microsoft" (OLDER MS STUFF (WIN98se to be exact))

Newer MS stuff sucks,is too intrusive and cuts your privacy down to just about 0!

I havent tried Linux or Apple

[authority]

...and havent looked back.

Thanks snoop for the opportunity to plug Linux, I think far more people should try it.

When I first switched, some hardware was problematic with Linux and you had to fuck around with it. Nowadays it's much easier.

For newbies I'd suggest Ubuntu by far over other Linux distributions. If you buy from Dell, you can get a PC with Ubuntu already installed.

Here's a clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ) comparing Vista with Ubuntu. Some of what is shown is gimmicky and some of it requires a bit of playing around with, but here are the main advantages as I see it.

1. It's safer. Against the hardcore hackers you'll never be 100% safe, but it's certainly 1000s of times safer than Microsoft will ever be. What's more, with Windows, the License Agreement permits them to access your PC at any time and make changes without your knowledge. Not so with Linux.

2. It updates faster. 6 years between XP and Vista is a loooong time. OK, they release Service Packs and Hotfixes, but it's still essentially the same OS. Most mainstream Linux distributions update every few months at the most, and the progress of new applications and new functionality, is a lot faster. It's also way ahead of Windows. Vista is only starting to catch up on stuff you could do 3 years ago with Linux.

3. It's free. Forever. So are any programs you install. Forever.

4. You can run Windows programs on Linux, and open Microsoft Office files. Can you open Linux files in Windows. Microsoft won't even acknowledge they are there.

5. It has great support, with dedicated forums of expert users, rather than call-centre idiots (I've worked in call-centres so I can say this).

6. I know I posted this link on another thread earlier, so apologies to those who saw it then, but do you really want to keep this guy (video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1274983729713522403) in a job?

Anyone who has any issues with Linux is welcome to contact me. I hope some of you give it a try. You'll love it. :cool:

Ballmer is an idiot

Steve ballmer egged in hungary
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1274983729713522403#docid=-295724029758861433