Aspartame is safe

[fantana]

Aspartame: a safety evaluation based on current use levels, regulations, and toxicology. Magnuson BA, et al. Crit Rev Toxicol. 37(8):629-727. September 2007.

Aspartame is a methyl ester of a dipeptide used as a synthetic nonnutritive sweetener in over 90 countries worldwide in over 6000 products. The purpose of this investigation was to review the scientific literature on the absorption and metabolism, the current consumption levels worldwide, the toxicology, and recent epidemiological studies on aspartame. Current use levels of aspartame, even by high users in special subgroups, remains well below the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and European Food Safety Authority established acceptable daily intake levels of 50 and 40 mg/kg bw/day, respectively. Consumption of large doses of aspartame in a single bolus dose will have an effect on some biochemical parameters, including plasma amino acid levels and brain neurotransmitter levels. The rise in plasma levels of phenylalanine and aspartic acid following administration of aspartame at doses less than or equal to 50 mg/kg bw do not exceed those observed postprandially. Acute, subacute and chronic toxicity studies with aspartame, and its decomposition products, conducted in mice, rats, hamsters and dogs have consistently found no adverse effect of aspartame with doses up to at least 4000 mg/kg bw/day. Critical review of all carcinogenicity studies conducted on aspartame found no credible evidence that aspartame is carcinogenic. The data from the extensive investigations into the possibility of neurotoxic effects of aspartame, in general, do not support the hypothesis that aspartame in the human diet will affect nervous system function, learning or behavior. Epidemiological studies on aspartame include several case-control studies and one well-conducted prospective epidemiological study with a large cohort, in which the consumption of aspartame was measured. The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and cancer in any tissue. The weight of existing evidence is that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption as a nonnutritive sweetener.

There are lots of people who don't like aspartame or artificial sweeteners, for various reasons, and some people do seem to have some reactions like headaches, etc. However, the scientific data keeps coming out saying it is safe.

This is a review paper of over 500 studies and reports, including toxicologial, clinical and epidemiological studies dating from the 1970's pre-clinical work to the very latest studies on the sweetener aspartame. This report was published in the September 2007 issue of Critical Reviews in Toxicology. This report said that there are unsafe levels of aspartame consumption but the paper says that aspartame is safe at current levels of consumption, even among high user sub-populations. The report also said that no credible evidence was found that aspartame is carcinogenic or neurotoxic.

Specifically, the report included the following conclusions:

* Based on results of several long term studies, aspartame does not have carcinogenic or cancer-promoting activity.

* Results of extensive investigation in studies that mimic human exposure do not show any evidence of neurological effects, such as memory and learning problems, of aspartame consumption.

* Overall the weight of the evidence indicates that aspartame has no effect on behaviour, cognitive function, neural function or seizures in any of the groups studied.

* Aspartame has not been shown to have adverse effects on reproductive activity or lactation.

* Studies conclude that aspartame is safe for use by diabetics and may aid diabetics in adhering to a sugar-free diet.

* There is no evidence to support an association between aspartame consumption and obesity. On the contrary, when used in multidisciplinary weight control programs, aspartame may actually aid in long-term weight control.

* The studies provide no evidence to support an association between aspartame and brain or hematopoietic tumour development.



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Links and surveys with references proving otherwise?

Stick them in here, in a Non Gay Way

[auron]

Yeah, just like flouride is safe too!

Edit: Written by a true shill.

[strider]

Bollocks.. It´s absolute poison..

[whitenight639]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4363121115391597175&q=aspartame&total=237&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

Its a man made chemical, that is simalar to a natural on but not the same, there are over 80,000 totally new manmade chemicals in the environment now that wernt 50yrs ago, are bodies have never delt with these substances before and we wonder why there is a cancer epidemic.

[i_am]

THE BITTER TRUTH ABOUT
ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS

Aspartame sugar substitutes cause worrying symptoms from memory loss to brain tumours. But despite US FDA approval as a 'safe' food additive, aspartame is one of the most dangerous substances ever to be foisted upon an unsuspecting public.

http://nexusmagazine.com//articles/aspartame.html


Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World 1 of 10

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[megafish33]

Who cares... tastes like shit anyway. I'd rather have Stevia or sucrose or honey; aspartame tastes "fake."

Sometimes I endure sugarfree Redbulls because I don't want all those sucrose and glucose calories. It's quite medicinal tasting... lol

[limelady]

Ha! I wonder who funded THAT study!!!

Its funny how people's health miseries start to turn around the same
day they give up consuming this poison. :p

[fantana]

I took this from a website for private members on a HEALTH forum

The admin who runs it who is a competitve bodybuilder posted the above...I want a productive amount of counter evidence (I have provided some time ago, but not recently)

[whitenight639]

I took this from a website for private members on a HEALTH forum

The admin who runs it who is a competitve bodybuilder posted the above...I want a productive amount of counter evidence (I have provided some time ago, but not recently)

Just got to look into monsanto and donnald rumsfeld. he invented it or was affiliated with its creation then got onto the FDA and made it legal then sold it to monsanto for 12 million?

[fantana]

Just got to look into monsanto and donnald rumsfeld. he invented it or was affiliated with its creation then got onto the FDA and made it legal then sold it to monsanto for 12 million?

Monsanto??

It was Rumsefield who put it through, but I need the references etc from all of this otherwise it gets blantantly ignored.

What was the italian scientific survey from 2006?

[whitenight639]

Monsanto??

It was Rumsefield who put it through, but I need the references etc from all of this otherwise it gets blantantly ignored.

What was the italian scientific survey from 2006?

its all in the video link i posted, although its an hour and a half long!
if you wikipedia monsanto or aspartame you'll get proper sources.
think your right bout some itallian survey, think its in the film my mind is like a siv!

[i_am]

Monsanto??

It was Rumsefield who put it through, but I need the references etc from all of this otherwise it gets blantantly ignored.

What was the italian scientific survey from 2006?


Here ya go :)

http://todayyesterdayandtomorrow.wordpress.com/2007/08/10/donald-rumsfeld-in-bed-with-aspartame/

http://todayyesterdayandtomorrow.wordpress.com/2007/06/04/aspartame-is-manufactured-by-monsanto-using-genetically-modified-bacteria/

[fantana]

Thanking you, posted all the links

Lets see what the response is

I might get banned

[auron]

* http://www.rense.com/general47/story.htm The Ephedra Story & Aspartame
* http://www.aspartametruth.com/ Aspartame Truth Site
* http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/ Aspartame (Nutrasweet) Toxicity Information Center
* http://www.wnho.net/aspartame_brain_damage.htm Brain Cell Damage From Aspartame
* http://www.aspartame.com/ features a link to the Fox TV expose http://aspartame.com/fox5.rm (1.8MB RealAudio file).
* http://www.dorway.com/ ASPARTAME??? NO! NEIN! NON! NIX! NJET! OXI! Including, http://www.dorway.com/pboi.txt “Smoking Gun” FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION (Docket No. 75P-0355) ASPARTAME - DECISION OF THE PUBLIC BOARD OF INQUIRY http://www.dorway.com/enclosur.htmlTimeline history of Aspartame
* http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/abuse/ Abuse of the Scientific Method Seen in Monsanto Aspartame Research
* http://www.nexusmagazine.com//Aspartame.html Nexus Magazine Article: THE BITTER TRUTH ABOUT ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS
* http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/02/27/stinwenws03032.html?999 Top sweetener condemned by secret report
* http://www.lineone.net/express/00/01/16/news/n1320diet-d.html My two years of hell on low calorie drinks
* http://www.presidiotex.com/nutrapoison.html Aspartame makers and ties to the Nazis- "Nutrapoison"
* http://nancymarkle.com/ Nancy Markle Homepage
* http://www.imagin.net/~abredon/links_aspartame.htm Aspartame is Poison! Don't use it!
* http://www.rense.com/general36/asap.htm Hidden Sources Of MSG And Aspartame In Foods

Some may not work. A blatant copy and past job mate! :D

[thirdwave]

I got a can of Tango today ... "no artificial colorings or flavorings" did not want to get the diet one as it would have aspartame in it.... only to find even the normal one does! ...they put the shit in everything now, which means its not just a sugar replacement.

[astraltraveller]

this is like mad syncronicity or maybe not but i was just about to make a post about my favourite refreshing drink and now im so pissed off . i have sinusitis and just cannot get rid of my thurst because everything i have has artificial sweetners in , well my cordials do but my fruit juice is ok but its too sweet so i thought yeah thats it you need robinsons barley water , i used to drink it by the pint with ice cuibes . well ive just been to get some and now the best well known cold drink people have allways drank when ill or in hospital apart from lucozade wich is another fave of mine but just dont taste the same anymore , sorry i just had to fit the lucozade bit it , so anyway now robinsons has bloody saccharin in it aarrggghhh , i simply cannot buy anything withought sweetners , these damned sweetners just dry out my gob even worse than it is so you end up drinking more and more and cannot quench the thirst , im going mad , the only thing that does the trick is chilled water and i even think that seems dry but maybe thats me but thiers some science i know nothing about that says some water is not as hydrating as other water thats been specialy treated but who the heck can keep buying that off the net , as soon as youve got it youve drank it and would need more . then thiers that japanese scientist who says water molecules change shape according to possitive or negative vibration wich you allready know about , but im thinking now that we are deliberatly poisoned with these sweetners so we cant remember crap all and become ill and this rubbish will also poison the body,s water supply and alter the vibration of our internal water supply ths altering the way we thing by making think on a low vibratory level and not that of love and a higher concious level . just my thoughts anyway but im just so aaarrrhhhh about robinsons barley water .

[i_am]

this is like mad syncronicity or maybe not but i was just about to make a post about my favourite refreshing drink and now im so pissed off . i have sinusitis and just cannot get rid of my thurst because everything i have has artificial sweetners in , well my cordials do but my fruit juice is ok but its too sweet so i thought yeah thats it you need robinsons barley water , i used to drink it by the pint with ice cuibes . well ive just been to get some and now the best well known cold drink people have allways drank when ill or in hospital apart from lucozade wich is another fave of mine but just dont taste the same anymore , sorry i just had to fit the lucozade bit it , so anyway now robinsons has bloody saccharin in it aarrggghhh , i simply cannot buy anything withought sweetners , these damned sweetners just dry out my gob even worse than it is so you end up drinking more and more and cannot quench the thirst , im going mad , the only thing that does the trick is chilled water and i even think that seems dry but maybe thats me but thiers some science i know nothing about that says some water is not as hydrating as other water thats been specialy treated but who the heck can keep buying that off the net , as soon as youve got it youve drank it and would need more . then thiers that japanese scientist who says water molecules change shape according to possitive or negative vibration wich you allready know about , but im thinking now that we are deliberatly poisoned with these sweetners so we cant remember crap all and become ill and this rubbish will also poison the body,s water supply and alter the vibration of our internal water supply ths altering the way we thing by making think on a low vibratory level and not that of love and a higher concious level . just my thoughts anyway but im just so aaarrrhhhh about robinsons barley water .


Get a filter and drink water. It is better for you, and in the long run, will work out cheaper than barley water. Just add ice (made from filtered water of course) and a slice of lemon or lime if you don't like water.

[limelady]

Get a filter and drink water. It is better for you, and in the long run, will work out cheaper than barley water. Just add ice (made from filtered water of course) and a slice of lemon or lime if you don't like water.

Best advice!

Oh and make sure the lemon and limes you slice are organic......there's a
powerful amount of pesticide residue in the rind of commercially produced citrus fruit. :cool:

[astraltraveller]

hello i_am


thanks for that , i didnt think of doing that in my frustration but i have been thinking of getting a new water filter , i had one but it disapeard . i knew them not so subliminal messages over at prisonplanet.com was telling me i need a berky . i will try this lemon and water latter , wish i had some stevia to sweeten it a bit though . thanks again his is a life saver .:)

[astraltraveller]

thank you too lime_lady


i just have to have any lemons and limes i can get though so ile have to give em a scrub , just as long as they havnt been injected with sweetners things should be ok :D

[i_am]

hello i_am


thanks for that , i didnt think of doing that in my frustration but i have been thinking of getting a new water filter , i had one but it disapeard . i knew them not so subliminal messages over at prisonplanet.com was telling me i need a berky . i will try this lemon and water latter , wish i had some stevia to sweeten it a bit though . thanks again his is a life saver .:)

Is stevia hard to get in the UK? I have heard (seen) others say that it was. No problems here. I don't use any sweetener at all except in a smoothie on the odd occassion and I then use stevia.

[astraltraveller]

i_am

ive never heard of stevia being over here in the uk , ive only seen it on the net but never got around to buying any . i saw on tv though last week some ladies in a supermarket saying you can buy a product made of the sugars from fruit so im going to see if i can get some , its only a small box though but its twice as sweet as sugar .

[davidbarstis]

LOL, what is everyone afraid of a little sugar? If its raw sugar and you don't eat too much, there's nothing wrong with it. People don't realize they get more sugars in food they eat than putting a teaspoon in your coffee. Nothing wrong with organic sugar as long as you use it sparingly so you don't spike your insulin.

[fantana]

Im not here to defend artificial sweeteners, only to present the scientific data as I come across it, as it pertains both to health and to weight management (on the latter point because some people claim that artificial sweeteners contribute to obesity, which so far I have seen no proof). I am wide open to the possibility that aspartame or even splenda may be harmful. All I want to see is the scientific data that proves it.

Every link you posted points to the same type of alarmist information I spoke of in my article (link above), and I dont see any scientific data on those websites. The nexus website article has a list of 25 references. In that list, only one or two of the references cited comes from a peer reviewed journal. On the nexus home page, it says, "NEXUS is an international bi-monthly alternative news magazine, covering the fields of: Health Alternatives; Suppressed Science; Earth's Ancient Past; UFOs & the Unexplained; and Government Cover-Ups."


These findings are open for discussion, debate and criticism.They are open to be disproven. But to disprove them, disprove them with science,not with links to a to a UFO, conspiracy theory and unexplained mysteries website, because that's called PSEUDO-science

___


Paraphrased the response.


You guys are not winning this one. Where is the science and the references?

[astraltraveller]

sugar lowers the immune system and im trying to heal stuff but i didnt say i was affraid of sugar but i am dibetic and just whant to switch to stevia .nits a bastard when a person cant eat n drink what they please .

[i_am]

LOL, what is everyone afraid of a little sugar? If its raw sugar and you don't eat too much, there's nothing wrong with it. People don't realize they get more sugars in food they eat than putting a teaspoon in your coffee. Nothing wrong with organic sugar as long as you use it sparingly so you don't spike your insulin.

:) this thread is about aspartame, which is bad :p

Yes, sugar is fine, used in moderation. Unfortunately, most people who use sugar use the white stuff and lots of it.

I personally don't like sugar and rarely use any sweetener at all.

[fantana]

:) this thread is about aspartame, which is bad :p

Yes, sugar is fine, used in moderation. Unfortunately, most people who use sugar use the white stuff and lots of it.

I personally don't like sugar and rarely use any sweetener at all.

Thats because you're sweet enough.


If thats you in the avatar anyway. Although on saying that it probably isn't, at the Glastonbury meet up it turns out

Lookfar isn't a dolhpin
Cheeb isn't a metalic robot, he looks quiet real and
dondaz doesnt have a wire mesh stuck to his face

[i_am]

Paraphrased the response.


You guys are not winning this one. Where is the science and the references?

bugger!! I didn't realise it was a competition.

I think you know as well as I do that you will not get any mainstream science or surveys that will tell you it is not good. That would be counterproductive for them wouldn't it?

But you can bet your shirt that if Monsanto is involved, it ain't for the good of us.

Thank you, I may not be as cute as my little puppy but I am just as sweet. Trust me! :D


PS: Maybe you may find something you can use here:
http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=aspartame

[fantana]

bugger!! I didn't realise it was a competition.

I think you know as well as I do that you will not get any mainstream science or surveys that will tell you it is not good. That would be counterproductive for them wouldn't it?

But you can bet your shirt that if Monsanto is involved, it ain't for the good of us.

Thank you, I may not be as cute as my little puppy but I am just as sweet. Trust me! :D


PS: Maybe you may find something you can use here:
http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?q=aspartame


Everything is competition. I always thought you were sweet. And highly intelligent, in a Non Gay Way. Completely right on the main stream science survey, spot on. I have no hidden agenda when I say you are one of my favourite posters.




























P.S Vote for me http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9818

[fantana]

I am getting called a fear mongerer


Need a science referenced document

[horus21]

It is poison, there is much evidence to explain it. Why the need to try and confuse the confused by putting titles such as your completley misleading one. I think you should delete your thead as it is disinfo

[fantana]

It is poison, there is much evidence to explain it. Why the need to try and confuse the confused by putting titles such as your completley misleading one. I think you should delete your thead as it is disinfo

hey whoreass

Why don't you give up this information then, with scientific references, that you claim you have?

Troll

[bumble]

The only people that say it is good, are the one's that make it. There are a lot of scientists who have done their own studies, and they all come to the same conclusion that is it is nothing but F***ing pure poison. Anyone that has not watched 'Sweet Misery- A poisoned World' Watch it and then you will see what it is made of and what it can do to people.

[lookfar]

i_am

ive never heard of stevia being over here in the uk , ive only seen it on the net but never got around to buying any . i saw on tv though last week some ladies in a supermarket saying you can buy a product made of the sugars from fruit so im going to see if i can get some , its only a small box though but its twice as sweet as sugar .

Hi astraltraveller

I have just bought 1kg of stevia from ebay (got the details from a thread on here the other day). I've given half to someone in the family with diabetes, but if you PM me your address I will send you some in the post so you can try it :)

[fantana]

The only people that say it is good, are the one's that make it. There are a lot of scientists who have done their own studies, and they all come to the same conclusion that is it is nothing but F***ing pure poison. Anyone that has not watched 'Sweet Misery- A poisoned World' Watch it and then you will see what it is made of and what it can do to people.


Links

References

Evidence

????

[horus21]

hey whoreass

Why don't you give up this information then, with scientific references, that you claim you have?

Troll

I made a mistake, it IS safe, you can continue to indulge in these products with a care free feeling.

Enjoy my 'friend!'

[fantana]

I made a mistake, it IS safe, you can continue to indulge in these products with a care free feeling.

Enjoy my 'friend!'

You still have not come up with references of SCIENCE

You are the fear mongerer.

[horus21]

You still have not come up with references of SCIENCE

You are the fear mongerer.

You are correct I told you, you should get back to your high dosages as it is indeed beneficial to your body's immune system and enhances the chemical mathematics potentials being devised in your brain from 1 billion to 1 million per Mayan second.

Enjoy

(This post is bullshit for anybody whom is genuinely seeking truth here - obvious the OP is NOT)

[nickatnoon61]

I got a can of Tango today ... "no artificial colorings or flavorings" did not want to get the diet one as it would have aspartame in it.... only to find even the normal one does! ...they put the shit in everything now, which means its not just a sugar replacement.

Apparently it is in over 5,000 processed foods!!!

[nickatnoon61]

Im not here to defend artificial sweeteners, only to present the scientific data as I come across it, as it pertains both to health and to weight management (on the latter point because some people claim that artificial sweeteners contribute to obesity, which so far I have seen no proof). I am wide open to the possibility that aspartame or even splenda may be harmful. All I want to see is the scientific data that proves it.

Every link you posted points to the same type of alarmist information I spoke of in my article (link above), and I dont see any scientific data on those websites. The nexus website article has a list of 25 references. In that list, only one or two of the references cited comes from a peer reviewed journal. On the nexus home page, it says, "NEXUS is an international bi-monthly alternative news magazine, covering the fields of: Health Alternatives; Suppressed Science; Earth's Ancient Past; UFOs & the Unexplained; and Government Cover-Ups."


These findings are open for discussion, debate and criticism.They are open to be disproven. But to disprove them, disprove them with science,not with links to a to a UFO, conspiracy theory and unexplained mysteries website, because that's called PSEUDO-science

___


Paraphrased the response.


You guys are not winning this one. Where is the science and the references?
Fantana, science is for suckers.When we become detoxified and in tune with ourselves and bodies, we will intuitively know which are the poisons.
Has science ever created or improved on natural organic foods????

[fantana]

Fantana, science is for suckers.When we become detoxified and in tune with ourselves and bodies, we will intuitively know which are the poisons.
Has science ever created or improved on natural organic foods????

Science has helped to improve the conditions the crops grow in, so yes, I would say so.

I asked for some links with references as a counter argument to studies saying that aspartame was safe, nothing was provided. All the talk of lab rats getting brain cancer, the italian survey, where is the references and the evidence? There was none.

That speaks volumes. It's science.

[fantana]

You are correct I told you, you should get back to your high dosages as it is indeed beneficial to your body's immune system and enhances the chemical mathematics potentials being devised in your brain from 1 billion to 1 million per Mayan second.

Enjoy

(This post is bullshit for anybody whom is genuinely seeking truth here - obvious the OP is NOT)

Hey whoreass


If man made it, don't eat it.

That's how the HMHTs, such as myself, roll.

Hope this helps.

[neutron flux]

Instead of doing a little research yourself, you ask everyone to do the work for you - this puts you into the category of Galien Man-Child.

http://www.marlborofitness.com/Articles/Diet%20Soda/Aspartame.pdf

http://64.233.179.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=cache:530VJ3ZH40MJ:www.livingnow.com.au/handh/aspartame.pdf+scientific+studies+into+harmful+aspa rtame

http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0717-95022006000500027&script=sci_arttext

That's just five minutes of research to get you started.

*somethings wrong with posting on the forum so you'll have to cut and paste links and do the whole url for the second one*


edit: they had an underscore at the start therefore the program did not recognise the link. They work fine now :) i_am

[bumble]

Links

References

Evidence

????

Do your own research, look at google. You can drink the shit for all I care.
But if you get anything wrong with your health, and you find out that Aspartame was to blame, dont moan about it. Monsanto lover.:D

[fantana]

Instead of doing a little research yourself, you ask everyone to do the work for you - this puts you into the category of Galien Man-Child.

http://www.marlborofitness.com/Articles/Diet%20Soda/Aspartame.pdf

http://64.233.179.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=cache:530VJ3ZH40MJ:www.livingnow.com.au/handh/aspartame.pdf+scientific+studies+into+harmful+aspa rtame

http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0717-95022006000500027&script=sci_arttext

That's just five minutes of research to get you started.

*somethings wrong with posting on the forum so you'll have to cut and paste links and do the whole url for the second one*


edit: they had an underscore at the start therefore the program did not recognise the link. They work fine now :) i_am

Excellent posts


Of course everyone should do the work for me, why the fuck not? Don't act like you have anything better to do than comply with my every need and demand. A HMHT, such as myself, is always provided for by those of a lesser standing in the gene pool (yourself and other genetic inferiors). It's science.


Yours in manliness,

Fantana

[megafish33]

Dude, what are you worried about, any artificial sweeteners will just go through any HMHTs w/o any ill effects. ;)

[nickatnoon61]

Science has helped to improve the conditions the crops grow in, so yes, I would say so.

I asked for some links with references as a counter argument to studies saying that aspartame was safe, nothing was provided. All the talk of lab rats getting brain cancer, the italian survey, where is the references and the evidence? There was none.

That speaks volumes. It's science.

Oh yeah,are you talking about the genetically engineered crops??? So ever since technology and science has blossomed, cancer rates have risen exponentially! THANK GOD FOR SCIENCE EH?!?! show me any proof that science has improved anything dietary and is healthier than natural/organic!!!!

[nickatnoon61]

Excellent posts


Of course everyone should do the work for me, why the fuck not? Don't act like you have anything better to do than comply with my every need and demand. A HMHT, such as myself, is always provided for by those of a lesser standing in the gene pool (yourself and other genetic inferiors). It's science.


Yours in manliness,

Fantana

GOOD ANSWER !!!!!!HA HA :D