How do people deal with self destruct alters?

[deathcultreject]

I absorbed one today, and it was totaly insane.

It keeps taking me back to a bloody (literaly) incident which was mind control related, and trying to make jump down the stairs in a tower block . . . in a memory eleven years ago.

It likes telling me that I've allready killed myself in loads of parallel universes, and it gets angry over any kind of love unless it's just memories of sex in relationships that failed.

It trys to rewrite all my memories in a really sick way, and drive me towards false confessions and believing that I've allready killed myself.

It might come from 2 or 3 alters absorbing each other like Sylar, one of them is definately 'programmed.'

[jolinemaria]

Understand the nature of an alter. He/she has come into being for reasons of protection. However strange and far fetched it may seem he probably thinks jumping down the stairs is the best solution to avoid more pain. You are not in the same situation as 11 years ago (at least I hope you are not) but aparantly the alter doesn't know this. Take him seriously in it role of protector and see if you can find out what it wants to protect you from (now today,) something must have triggered him into action. Education, respect and understanding will help him evolve to a more relaxed and peaceful nature.

[drael]

Ignore them. Listen to music, do something else, think about something else, or dont think at all for awhile. In time, the personality will give up, despite its apparent persistance.

The voice of fear, doubt and control is in nearly every person (99.999 percent) on the globe.

Centre yourself, be calm. Centre your window of perception into the moment.

You control your perception, You are the master of yourself.

[tusme]

Meditate, focus your Mind's energy on the (your) breath and be still...good luck!! :)

[deathcultreject]

Meditate, focus your Mind's energy on the (your) breath and be still...good luck!! :)

Well that's the main thing, invoke your higher self, watch your thoughts all the time, and meditate regularly.

Then the alters are surrounded in consciousness and it calms them down.

Thank you.

[deathcultreject]

Understand the nature of an alter. He/she has come into being for reasons of protection. However strange and far fetched it may seem he probably thinks jumping down the stairs is the best solution to avoid more pain. You are not in the same situation as 11 years ago (at least I hope you are not) but aparantly the alter doesn't know this. Take him seriously in it role of protector and see if you can find out what it wants to protect you from (now today,) something must have triggered him into action. Education, respect and understanding will help him evolve to a more relaxed and peaceful nature.

Interesting thought.

I should try not to look down on it for being so twisted.

Thanks.

[deathcultreject]

Ignore them. Listen to music, do something else, think about something else, or dont think at all for awhile. In time, the personality will give up, despite its apparent persistance.

The voice of fear, doubt and control is in nearly every person (99.999 percent) on the globe.

Centre yourself, be calm. Centre your window of perception into the moment.

You control your perception, You are the master of yourself.

Well control of my perception was a bit shaky for a while, but I know what you mean, don't feed it attention.

Thanks.

[tusme]

Well that's the main thing, invoke your higher self, watch your thoughts all the time, and meditate regularly.

Then the alters are surrounded in consciousness and it calms them down.
Well, the Higher Self is always "invoked" (It is Infinite), it's only us, our Physical being (it is finite or can only exist/vibrate between the periods of birth and death), who has yet to awaken to this Truth...

As long as we're still breathing, there can be no seperation...in other words, the Higher Self cannot and will not seperate itself from the Physical being...

However, on the other hand, if as a Physical being who, intentionally or not, ignores of their Higher Self, could and most probably would, easily be tricked by a negative energy or "alter" (energy) into thinking either, that that is who they are or deny that that is who they are...if you know what I mean...!?

Again, we ARE the Higher Self, Infinite Truth beings we are...and if we all would simply awaken to this Truth, then this fucked-up reality would instantly be a thing of the past...co's by doing so, we'd all be banishing the "alter" energy or negative energy back to their entrapped state within the negative energy frequency/s...which others refer to as "hell"...where it belongs...!!

Hope that made sense...otherwise, yes, I agree with everything your saying...absolutely!! :)

[ufochick]

I absorbed one today, and it was totaly insane.

It keeps taking me back to a bloody (literaly) incident which was mind control related, and trying to make jump down the stairs in a tower block . . . in a memory eleven years ago.

It likes telling me that I've allready killed myself in loads of parallel universes, and it gets angry over any kind of love unless it's just memories of sex in relationships that failed.

It trys to rewrite all my memories in a really sick way, and drive me towards false confessions and believing that I've allready killed myself.

It might come from 2 or 3 alters absorbing each other like Sylar, one of them is definately 'programmed.'

I am not sure I been through exactly what you have but I have had a time in my life where I was programmed. It was right after I started going public with what I knew about ET's and interdimensional Beings. One could call it an alter I suppose. I have been dealing with Gov. BS for quite awhile.

I woke and all of a sudden the thoughts in my mind were NOT mine. MY mind began like a recital of phrases and thoughts that were not mine. That none of this happened... delete the bog...if I continued I would go insane.. and on and on to suicidal thoughts.... NOT in any way shape or form my thoughts or outlook on life.

The thoughts were VERY VERY powerful... For 16 hours I fought with it. I almost lost. When I thought of anything ET related I would go into a very bad place. When I thought oh that's all just dumb there is no such thing as Et's etc and just went about my day I was fine. But I KNEW this was not me. I knew I had a purpse and I was not going to be detoured from that purpose no matter what. But the thoughts continued.... either change the thoughts or self destruct.

Finally a friend get back with me, I had called the 2 who knew what had been going on and confirmed this was not right and not me. Between that and realizing it may be my kids next I became steel inside.
It's hard to explain this part but I will try. Now I am a person who has very controled thoughts, I can empty my mind for long periods of time with no chatter and simply be "in the moment" or empty my mind on purpose when I chose.

I saw it as a blanket that had been thrown over me against my will. A literal blanket. So I sat down and I got very very angry at those wo had done this to me.. and I mentally picked up the blanket of thoughts that had been laid on me... and I threw it against the wall... and the thoughts were gone. It happened all at once. It took a major amount of emotion and pure will and stubborness.

I don't know if this will work for you.. but it did for me. You can PM me if you like. Just realize this is programming... and it's NOT YOU.... and throw it. Refuse to accept any of it into your reality. We have that choice. No one can control us unless we allow it.

Realize these are not your thoughts, put them in a basket or see them as a blanket laid over your etheric body then heave them, throw them away....all together as a package.

Hope this helps. WE don't have to intigrate this shit into us.. we can delete it. IT's a program that has been placed in our minds and its' running like one... hit delete. At least I was able to...by knowing I was creature of light and strength and could not be destroyed or bent in any way from my purpose.

This shit isn't yours... the thoughts were placed there, get rid of them... BE WHO YOU ARE AT YOUR CORE!!

Dana

[deathcultreject]

Cheers ufochic :)

Sorry to hear about your black ops programming, it does seem to go together with alien / extradimensional contact.

I'm glad to hear that you won that round.

I think the men in black have been recorded as far back as the old testament as people who snoop around after paranormal experiences, so I don't presume that they come from the govenrment.

Personaly I have a deep need to understand how systems work and interconnect with other systems, so I tend not to obliterate things in my psyche, because I like to learn wheat they do and then hopefuly rehabilitate them.

Besides, it's better to turn hostile alters against programmers than to run the risk of thinking that they've gone when they haven't.

[deathcultreject]

Just writing to say I've got through it now and I'm feeling a wonderful loving sense of 'communion' with the universe.

It now feels like it was a healing crisis which got complicated.

[drael]

:) :) Thats great news. Well done, btw!

[jolinemaria]

Just writing to say I've got through it now and I'm feeling a wonderful loving sense of 'communion' with the universe.

It now feels like it was a healing crisis which got complicated.

These healing crisusses can be pretty tough if you identify with it, even if in the back of your mind you know what is going on.....
But all is well that ends well :)
Bless you!

[deca]

probably these bastards with RADAR (pulsed microwave) based mind weapons
Microwave auditory effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

this is very advanced these days mind reading,thought pushing , synthetic telepathy (I think chat all day) ....but people just don`t believe this or if it was possible that they would do it to me .

just try to stay calm don`t be panicked into doing things against your will or better judgment

also understand how the mental health system works "self harm or harm to others" is a big part of it

they will drug you if you deemed a threat to yourself or others, the drugs will limited your thinking making you more unable to defend yourself

also nip or touch yourself ,reconnect to your own nerve impulse from your body , curling your toes is good. also change your environment/thinking play music (but be careful of the lyrical content )

remember this tech can make you feel bad or amazingly wonderful

[deca]

I am not sure I been through exactly what you have but I have had a time in my life where I was programmed. It was right after I started going public with what I knew about ET's and interdimensional Beings. One could call it an alter I suppose. I have been dealing with Gov. BS for quite awhile.

I woke and all of a sudden the thoughts in my mind were NOT mine. MY mind began like a recital of phrases and thoughts that were not mine. That none of this happened... delete the bog...if I continued I would go insane.. and on and on to suicidal thoughts.... NOT in any way shape or form my thoughts or outlook on life.

The thoughts were VERY VERY powerful... For 16 hours I fought with it. I almost lost. When I thought of anything ET related I would go into a very bad place. When I thought oh that's all just dumb there is no such thing as Et's etc and just went about my day I was fine. But I KNEW this was not me. I knew I had a purpse and I was not going to be detoured from that purpose no matter what. But the thoughts continued.... either change the thoughts or self destruct.

Finally a friend get back with me, I had called the 2 who knew what had been going on and confirmed this was not right and not me. Between that and realizing it may be my kids next I became steel inside.
It's hard to explain this part but I will try. Now I am a person who has very controled thoughts, I can empty my mind for long periods of time with no chatter and simply be "in the moment" or empty my mind on purpose when I chose.

I saw it as a blanket that had been thrown over me against my will. A literal blanket. So I sat down and I got very very angry at those wo had done this to me.. and I mentally picked up the blanket of thoughts that had been laid on me... and I threw it against the wall... and the thoughts were gone. It happened all at once. It took a major amount of emotion and pure will and stubborness.

I don't know if this will work for you.. but it did for me. You can PM me if you like. Just realize this is programming... and it's NOT YOU.... and throw it. Refuse to accept any of it into your reality. We have that choice. No one can control us unless we allow it.

Realize these are not your thoughts, put them in a basket or see them as a blanket laid over your etheric body then heave them, throw them away....all together as a package.

Hope this helps. WE don't have to intigrate this shit into us.. we can delete it. IT's a program that has been placed in our minds and its' running like one... hit delete. At least I was able to...by knowing I was creature of light and strength and could not be destroyed or bent in any way from my purpose.

This shit isn't yours... the thoughts were placed there, get rid of them... BE WHO YOU ARE AT YOUR CORE!!

Dana

you really need to get in touch with other mind control & electronic harassment victims

this tech is so advanced that you would believe it was an alien .....

I don`t tend to talk a lot about the higher capability's of this , just wanted to expose microwave hearing that's proved ......

[orage]

I absorbed one today, and it was totaly insane.

It keeps taking me back to a bloody (literaly) incident which was mind control related, and trying to make jump down the stairs in a tower block . . . in a memory eleven years ago.

It likes telling me that I've allready killed myself in loads of parallel universes, and it gets angry over any kind of love unless it's just memories of sex in relationships that failed.

It trys to rewrite all my memories in a really sick way, and drive me towards false confessions and believing that I've allready killed myself.

It might come from 2 or 3 alters absorbing each other like Sylar, one of them is definately 'programmed.'

What came to my mind while reading this was working with acceptance of all that you are. We all have over 2,000 traits, many of which are not considered positive. Acceptance and loving yourself can bring the healing you seek and give power over current and even past events that seem to have a hold on you.

Meditation, visualizations, love and acceptance. See if any of this resonates with you; a book that helped me was The Breakthrough Experience by Dr. DeMartini http://www.drdemartini.com/pages/breakthrough.html

[deathcultreject]

:) :) Thats great news. Well done, btw!

Thank you :)

[deathcultreject]

These healing crisusses can be pretty tough if you identify with it, even if in the back of your mind you know what is going on.....
But all is well that ends well :)
Bless you!

Thank you.

When you know at the back of your mind (or the front, I suppose), then you're probably OK, but it can still be hard to endure.

[deathcultreject]

remember this tech can make you feel bad or amazingly wonderful

Cheers deca :)

You might be interested to hear that it got better when snow froze the roads over.

That sealed car / van devices out from all kinds of areas.

[deathcultreject]

What came to my mind while reading this was working with acceptance of all that you are. We all have over 2,000 traits, many of which are not considered positive. Acceptance and loving yourself can bring the healing you seek and give power over current and even past events that seem to have a hold on you.

Meditation, visualizations, love and acceptance. See if any of this resonates with you; a book that helped me was The Breakthrough Experience by Dr. DeMartini http://www.drdemartini.com/pages/breakthrough.html

Thank you orage :)

I've been meaning to do more study to understand 'archetypes' etc.

I'll look it up.