adimon
16-09-2007, 10:33 PM
Snoopsnuffleopagus - you gave me the following 5 options:-
I am, 'curious as to your position' on September 11, 2001.
1. 9/11 commission report is accurate
2. 9/11 commission report is deficient yet applicable
3. Governmental, Military, and Business concerns: 'Let it happen on purpose.
4. Governmental, Military, and Business concerns: 'Made it happen on purpose'
5. Other(please expound)
I hope you don't mind me saying so, but 1-4 are kinda quite narrow, so I'll go for 5, and if you don't mind I will split this into two sections:-
1. What I think happened - which is relatively easy to form conclusions, on I think.
2. Why? I'm still in the early stages of making my mind up on this. I think the next term of Government will be critical for the discovery of key information on this.
Throughout, where appropriate, I will quantify my level of belief (in quarters, for simplicity).
1. What happened?
Item. I'm fairly sure WTC 1,2,7 were blown with controlled demolition. 3/4
Item. I'm not sure if the charges were placed upon construction, or in the period leading up to 9/11. 2/4
Item. A jet plane flew into each of the twin towers. FACT
Item. I believe a plane did NOT fly into the Pentagon. 4/4
Item. I believe a missile hit the pentagon. 3/4
Item. I believe Larry Silverstein was NOT involved and no prior knowledge. 4/4
Item. I believe that George W. Bush was NOT involved and had no prior knowledge. 3/4
Item. I believe some persons, within the framework of the US Government, representing commercial interests and secret societies, were involved, and/or had prior knowledge 3/4 (by and/or I mean simply that some knew but did nothing, and some were instrumental in the plot)
Item. I believe that Islamist terrorists were involved, though not on their own. 3/4
Item. I believe that there were warnings, leaks, and calculations that all of the above would happen. 4/4
Item. I believe that some of these warnings were ignored through incompetence, and some of them were covered up and funnelled. 4/4
Item. Someone stopped NORAD from intercepting. 3/4
Item. I believe that the Islamist organisation involved is not DIRECTLY linked to the London attacks. 3/4
Item. For the record, I don't believe that either 9/11 or 7/7 can simply described as inside jobs. That's not to do with stretching my imagination, but a very considered decision, which I will happily expand on.
2. Why?
As I said before, I'm still looking into this all the time, so this is a brief list, and therefore a bit vague. Until I've made up my mind, though, it's brevity can serve as a summary for me, and a discussion point for others.
Greed.
Defense Corporations.
Promotion of War.
Prevention of peace (not the same as Promotion of War).
Oil.
Hegemony (Chomsky's word, but it's a universal one term everyone will know)
Territorial domination.
= MONEY
I'm not so sure on chipping, and all the rest of it. I'm sure my standpoint will definitely change as time goes on.
So there ya go - quite 'mainstream' as far as most of the views here are concerned, I know, and not complete. But at least I don't think a plane hit the Pentagon.
Hope this answers your questions. :)
I am, 'curious as to your position' on September 11, 2001.
1. 9/11 commission report is accurate
2. 9/11 commission report is deficient yet applicable
3. Governmental, Military, and Business concerns: 'Let it happen on purpose.
4. Governmental, Military, and Business concerns: 'Made it happen on purpose'
5. Other(please expound)
I hope you don't mind me saying so, but 1-4 are kinda quite narrow, so I'll go for 5, and if you don't mind I will split this into two sections:-
1. What I think happened - which is relatively easy to form conclusions, on I think.
2. Why? I'm still in the early stages of making my mind up on this. I think the next term of Government will be critical for the discovery of key information on this.
Throughout, where appropriate, I will quantify my level of belief (in quarters, for simplicity).
1. What happened?
Item. I'm fairly sure WTC 1,2,7 were blown with controlled demolition. 3/4
Item. I'm not sure if the charges were placed upon construction, or in the period leading up to 9/11. 2/4
Item. A jet plane flew into each of the twin towers. FACT
Item. I believe a plane did NOT fly into the Pentagon. 4/4
Item. I believe a missile hit the pentagon. 3/4
Item. I believe Larry Silverstein was NOT involved and no prior knowledge. 4/4
Item. I believe that George W. Bush was NOT involved and had no prior knowledge. 3/4
Item. I believe some persons, within the framework of the US Government, representing commercial interests and secret societies, were involved, and/or had prior knowledge 3/4 (by and/or I mean simply that some knew but did nothing, and some were instrumental in the plot)
Item. I believe that Islamist terrorists were involved, though not on their own. 3/4
Item. I believe that there were warnings, leaks, and calculations that all of the above would happen. 4/4
Item. I believe that some of these warnings were ignored through incompetence, and some of them were covered up and funnelled. 4/4
Item. Someone stopped NORAD from intercepting. 3/4
Item. I believe that the Islamist organisation involved is not DIRECTLY linked to the London attacks. 3/4
Item. For the record, I don't believe that either 9/11 or 7/7 can simply described as inside jobs. That's not to do with stretching my imagination, but a very considered decision, which I will happily expand on.
2. Why?
As I said before, I'm still looking into this all the time, so this is a brief list, and therefore a bit vague. Until I've made up my mind, though, it's brevity can serve as a summary for me, and a discussion point for others.
Greed.
Defense Corporations.
Promotion of War.
Prevention of peace (not the same as Promotion of War).
Oil.
Hegemony (Chomsky's word, but it's a universal one term everyone will know)
Territorial domination.
= MONEY
I'm not so sure on chipping, and all the rest of it. I'm sure my standpoint will definitely change as time goes on.
So there ya go - quite 'mainstream' as far as most of the views here are concerned, I know, and not complete. But at least I don't think a plane hit the Pentagon.
Hope this answers your questions. :)