New world order = reptilians

[phfaty]

They might be Reptilians. Anyone ever bothered to check up on this possibility? They knowingly put poisons into the food supply, the medicines, vaccines, tootpastes, etc. Why would they knowingly poison the world they live in? They eat from the same food supply, and take the same medicines and vaccines we do. Could it be that because of their genetical makeup (reptilian dna), they cannot be harmed from these poisons?

[dngrs]

w/e they eat I think they have the best treatment available for any problem so that wouldn't worry them. + I think they have special areas for them to harvest food.. and the top level ones ( probably aliens) if they are really aliens I think they have some technology to clone their food or to create it instantly somehow.. They wouldn't do all they do if it hurt them too

[richardlism]

If this were the case it's not particularly hard to be self-sustaining. It becomes easier the more power/ "money" you have.

[chris_com283]

Because they have the technology to remove the toxins? Not sure about things like chemtrails and antiandrogens in the water supply.

[metacomet]

Threads like this kind of astound me...

because it makes it obvious that maybe 2% of us on this forum have actually read David Icke's books...

Yes, they are reptilians.

[christ4life]

The missing people are the food.

[camreeno]

You're asking if the NWO is reptilian? As in it's chiefly run by them or just has some? Kind of a shallow question if you've read any of Icke's books. The NWO is inextricable tied with reptilians. The reason the reptilians (ahh I'm getting tired of saying reptilians, reptilians, ...) are doing all this is because they genetically can't feel empathy. The reason they're so driven to take over the world and are obsessed with ritual and whatnot is because they neurologically have needs that are different to us. It's like a gambling problem but a genetic gambling problem, only in this case a thirst for power.

The reason they're putting all this crap into our foods is because they want to degrade our though processes to dumb down society, that's right, but not the only reason. Another reason if they're attacking our faculties that govern interdimensional connection and perception in an effort to impede the coming consciousness shift. The more people wake up, the more the domino effect progresses and this is one of the main propellers of this "shift" and it's not strictly limited to this 2012 thing or cosmic cycles.

I don't think their reptilian dna has much to do with their ability to fend off diseases and such any different than us. I think the way they're so healthy is the fact that they have the knowledge they withhold from us allowing them to tap into energy fields and know about how to patch up wounds by treating the cause in the consciousness and not the physical disease or would itself. (if that makes sense)

They don't just want to take over the world just for fun or for some gratification out of sadisticly killing people and taking over the land and resources... It has to do with their untimate goal or recolonizing the earth. I think it has to do with fulfilling this ancient goal of retaking the planet after they tried to take Atlantis but their agenda was scrapped after the deluge about 13,000 years ago... Plus it might have to do with their obsession with their species, as reptilian genetics in their case don't change, and they feel this is indicative of being genetically superior, or being "God mind". It has much to do with their ritualistic mind due to their genetics...

[merlincove]

i think the OP is asking, why they are poisoning the planet with chemicals and chemtrails etc given that they share the world with us, at least that's the way i read the OP.

i think we're all aware of the puppet masters, and the question is a worthy one, in the respect of why do they choose to poison the planet and its people.

Well firstly, they may choose to poison its population in order to keep them under control, because in doing so they keep the human race locked into the DNA consciousness, not allowing us to connect with nature through the absorption of natural foodstuffs, and instead feed out synthetic, genetically altered foods that dumb us down on a spiritual level and a physical level. By eating health and natural foods we are able to better connect to ourselves and our environment, removing such foodstuffs from our diet we invariably suffer through ill health and disconnect on multiple levels.

Ill health also introduces the concepts of fear, worry and stresses into our lives, again bringing the focus of our consciousness into a purely 3d DNA level and keeping the spirit in lockdown. Fear is what keeps the soul in this matrix prison, I have said before that fear is the prison guard who we nurture, and take care of, and he keeps us in the matrix prison. So anything that can further fear in people is to be welcomed by the NWO – because why we remain fearful, we remain within the Matrix.

Fear of course apposes Infinite Love.

Embracing Infinite Love is the only way we can escape the matrix prison that we find our selves in. And so the Nwo have an agenda to keep us from reaching that understanding.

Chen trails, fluoride in our water, poison in our foods, dumbing down the masses, giving over to them the care of the Jailer, that is why.

And of course do you think the elite eat the same foods as we do, do they drink the same water as we do? They may breathe the same air, admittedly, but they by no means share the food and drink of those they see as cattle.

[tinyint]

Terraformaing the reptilian way :confused:

[eyeballkid88]

Threads like this kind of astound me...

because it makes it obvious that maybe 2% of us on this forum have actually read David Icke's books...

Yes, they are reptilians.


that made me laugh .....:)

[energi]

...Wait, what?

Phfaty, you've created LOTS of threads where everyone and everything was connected to reptilians somehow, and now this? o_O

[merlincove]

...Wait, what?

Phfaty, you've created LOTS of threads where everyone and everything was connected to reptilians somehow, and now this? o_O

i sense a conspiracy, phfaty has been nobled :eek:

:rolleyes:

[cinder_darkskys]

Threads like this kind of astound me...

because it makes it obvious that maybe 2% of us on this forum have actually read David Icke's books...

Yes, they are reptilians.

from what I know David early works, up to with in the last few years I watched his videos, I found him to be in evolution, changing and growing as he learn new things, base on the fields of study he is, intressed in, at the time. Reptilians are his baby so to speak.

His new works I do not study, at this time, other then on site matterial

We all have our own point of view, on subjects, His point of view, is importate. He aloud to get the word out, based on his curent studdies. It's Big deal, he gets, it out to a masive amount of peaple, who tell there 2 friends

Informationial exchance.

you bet he reads most the sites new posts, and he probly have 5 or 10 peaple working for him on this site alone, in admin, reading every post. pointing out stuff, he may have missed, or may want to archive. I know, I would.

Then you inclue David family members, helping out.
He most likely has up to 4 to10 personal accounts, to move freely throw the site unseen. these accounts you could classify as charater accounts, to invoke, and prevoke responce. very much like a Et move throw out the world.

I'm intressed in TIME, At this point and time he believe, at that point of time he believe this. then there archiving this information. for mass consumption, in the market place. I dont think the man could find time to agree or disagree with any one

My self I dont not want to disagree or agree, I want to understand, the truth. If can provide something if I can, to that understanding, I am humbled, if I provied, any thing at all, to the information, in my limited way.

What intress me is what you the site users have to say, in the topics. be fore and after, I post my point of view.

I display image and get to make posts in this my very limit information, most likely for a very limited time, in a freely well run site, where peaple can log on freely, or pay for more,

but most likely seeing the way the site is run, there probly not that much difference in free and a payed account other then, you are paying to help out david gather a masive amount information, hell the amount of information could take life time's to put together, let alone understand.

I know this software and board system he's useing here basicly, I could build and admin, this site and I have in the passed, many of you have. because information is so freely transfured here, this site has archived a massive amount of information. Your just not going to find any were else.

I would rather, provide my point of view, in a said or unsaid topic. and let you and him, every one dicide what they think.

New world order = reptilians in this case.

reptilians, were talking about and old speice here, some them live a long long time 100,000s of years I believe. There not alien, they came from here, the only thing that makes them Et is there in space and live on a different planet, or planets, big deal so will we one day.

New world order = reptilians I just can't by it. Any thing that comes from space, would have zero intress in goverments, other then to help out. < added other wise you all be dead or salves, which we are not )

Any thing that can travel here, would no need for anything on this planet, because they passed 100's along the way, greed out, food out. So whats left, home, wanting to help home.

Why would they be intressed in any NWO created by something as imprefect as man you need a dam good reason.

reptilians could fix a solor flare, or cause one, or even defend the earth from one, or give every famialy a 15 mile ship to live on, why would they be intressed in world government, Why not World porn, more fun, and if thats the way we treat our female, and peaples, like shit, why would not them, when they get you, after all that how it works on Earth right.

Monkey see, monkey do. Human think along a simple lines, if we cant fuck it, eat it, watch it, or drive it, We just are not intressed till the trouble biting our ass, and we can see this happening in the mid east.

reptilians dont think like humans, they think like reptilians.

PeaceLovesAll

[metacomet]

You're asking if the NWO is reptilian? As in it's chiefly run by them or just has some? Kind of a shallow question if you've read any of Icke's books. The NWO is inextricable tied with reptilians. The reason the reptilians (ahh I'm getting tired of saying reptilians, reptilians, ...) are doing all this is because they genetically can't feel empathy. The reason they're so driven to take over the world and are obsessed with ritual and whatnot is because they neurologically have needs that are different to us. It's like a gambling problem but a genetic gambling problem, only in this case a thirst for power.

The reason they're putting all this crap into our foods is because they want to degrade our though processes to dumb down society, that's right, but not the only reason. Another reason if they're attacking our faculties that govern interdimensional connection and perception in an effort to impede the coming consciousness shift. The more people wake up, the more the domino effect progresses and this is one of the main propellers of this "shift" and it's not strictly limited to this 2012 thing or cosmic cycles.

I don't think their reptilian dna has much to do with their ability to fend off diseases and such any different than us. I think the way they're so healthy is the fact that they have the knowledge they withhold from us allowing them to tap into energy fields and know about how to patch up wounds by treating the cause in the consciousness and not the physical disease or would itself. (if that makes sense)

They don't just want to take over the world just for fun or for some gratification out of sadisticly killing people and taking over the land and resources... It has to do with their untimate goal or recolonizing the earth. I think it has to do with fulfilling this ancient goal of retaking the planet after they tried to take Atlantis but their agenda was scrapped after the deluge about 13,000 years ago... Plus it might have to do with their obsession with their species, as reptilian genetics in their case don't change, and they feel this is indicative of being genetically superior, or being "God mind". It has much to do with their ritualistic mind due to their genetics...

Fantastic post.

[sativa]

if there is any connection between "reptillians" & the reptillian brain that we are also endowed with, it would seem that they themselves are stuck in a struggle for survival!? if they don't feel in control of it all, they don't feel secure as a species. speaking of feelings though, the reptillian brain itself has nothing to do with feelings at all, just programmed reactions & physiological survival :rolleyes:
perhaps if we learn how to heal our own sense of seperation from the source, and reconnect our own reptillian brain with our cerebral cortex and limbic system, we can mirror that back to them, so they can heal. just a thought.;)

despite all the ancient nwo agenda (funny, nwo = now heh heh) i feel it is still up to us to reclaim our own place of power and conscious contribution on this planet & the Cosmos. :D its almost like they are begging us to wake up, because some of their actions are just so blatantly obvious. :eek:

[elo_zorn]

Phfaty is the David Icke forum's Reptilian superstar as of lately...don't let him catch you licking your lips! This guy could attach the Reptilian theory to kitties being soft and fluffy if he wanted to.

Before I get chewed for my comments as per usual...please understand my intent. This guy just attaches reptilians to every subject imaginable, and when he is questioned or critiqued he starts throwing out accusations of being a reptilian agent. So many of the worthwhile topics being discussed on the DI forums lack the substance required to have an intelligent discussion or debate, and on the flip side of the coin this only further discredits the subject matter.

Proving that a group entitled "NWO" exists is hard enough (considering it's strongest basis is that few political folk have used the catch phrase), let alone attaching reptilian aliens to it. I'm not denying either, I'm just looking for some real proof or evidence instead unsubstantiated bs piled on top of other unsubstantiated bs.

[cinder_darkskys]

They eats souls, they like to eat souls, that have sined, they like there job.
in other words they Eat Nazi They eat murder's. Soldiors that fight for the wrong causes. < that why I said, know why your going to hell. )

Can this be display in real time happening.
Yes it can.

What dose it look like, Abunch of Angels humans throwing Lost soul to its mouth. cool uh.

To move a Mt with the power of your mind, is to see heaven and hell unfold.

With the serpent is alway about Illusion, with in and useing reality.

This why there only 2 side many factions, right and wrong, or light and dark. every thing between and around that is disorder, this here it lives. With it always about progression, by any means, this why I say Monkey see Monkey do.

And the test seem to be will you distroy yours self, with what you have learn.

there is set way in which things seem to work, which is not very hard to understand, this why I say the SeEm to have stagnated in development them self's, there most likely could be a genetic, works going on, < Which I say study keep as open a mind as possable).

Humans lack of control over there own govenments is why you think space aliens are attacking.

look at them, who make mans laws, whyis laws your governments use's so complacated, do these thing.

Thats the 1st illusion, space aliens do these things,
governments do these things be cause we let them. in some case's we want them to.

The 2nd Illusion the of god within one's own self. The true reality is we all 1 with in God it self< not the stars). One.

The 3rd Illusion is we not bound to this force, we can do as we please. The truth is we are all bound to these thing, we can't escape, and we realy dont want to, be cause if we did escape We die for real, and would be distroy all the illusions, you be nothing at all< this is unexceptable to these things). As you can see from my imagery, if you are up to day on this site, you might even be playing a game called chance or choise. We dont just die, puff and gone.

Any one who seen anything of Hell of it at all, no matter how dark they think are. They soon find out there not that dark, hell, there is no joy in hell, no party, no sex. and well you realy are food.

on the other hand there heaven which always has a party somewhere and sex to boot. seem good to me, let not for get peaple that are there, alot humans in heaven, so thats cool by me to.

---------------- I cot that -< metacomet )-------------------
Originally Posted by camreeno
world order = reptilians.

It works like this. you have many factions around this 1 place that every one want, why because it religious. And the game starts with, God picked me to have this, look its writen here. And so they say we are the right ones the big guy picked us, not you.

Sad fact is there beening service up just like a cow in macdonalds restaurants
Look at the mid east, they hit the sprayier, and puff its dinner for 2 for real. but like I say we dont die, and so it a cycle, in death this cycle has liitle or no time running. that we as humans have been playing game for these things, every where on earth there is life, and death.

Rebel souls use this as dose religious peaples of the world, but like all things it can be pushed to far. and this is the sad reality of life, why peaple suffer in reality.
Goverments who think there use'ing these things, are not in control of there goverments. they drop out on the Illusions.

This Why I say, in this subject inreguards to these reptilians, there little or no understanding, after all, I still see the turm racism, we are all 1 speice. separation and division are constucts of mans minds alone. in order to wrap there heads around something they cant have, cant touch to make what they call real.

This why I look at the over all big image, I will use David, HE believe it works this way, in his minds eye, dose not make him right or wrong, he make his points he him self knows over years of study, over 100's if not 1,000s of subjects.

he believe these things to day because that what he studied, took the time to learn. but it after he can't that important, what will peaple say when Davids passed on, who pass on his knowage, will be pass on or trashed.

And so the question becames Time vs the Illusion of reptilians control. what is the truth.

PeaceLovesAll

[old major]

Reptilian is a code word for the...


Bourgeoisie


you guys did not actually take the lizard thing literally,


or did you? :confused:

[camreeno]

Threads like this kind of astound me...

because it makes it obvious that maybe 2% of us on this forum have actually read David Icke's books...

Yes, they are reptilians.Yeah, I get that feeling all the time...

[camreeno]

Fantastic post.It's great to see people read what I write!

[elo_zorn]

Threads like this kind of astound me...

because it makes it obvious that maybe 2% of us on this forum have actually read David Icke's books...

Yes, they are reptilians.


What if you've read his books and realize that David is just a human being like the rest of us, therefore isn't infallible? The core of his work is what draws so many to him, but the details of his Reptilian Theory were only expanded upon late in his career as a researcher after meeting Arizona Wilder and Credu Mutwa (his alleged uncorroborated witnesses). A stronger truth that many seem to miss within his books is that blind faith/belief are very dangerous things that only block out anything outside of your accepted reality tunnel.

*Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.
-Robert Anton Wilson

*Wisdom is knowing how little you know.
-Socrates

[camreeno]

What if you've read his books and realize that David is just a human being like the rest of us, therefore isn't infallible? The core of his work is what draws so many to him, but the details of his Reptilian Theory were only expanded upon late in his career as a researcher after meeting Arizona Wilder and Credu Mutwa (his alleged uncorroborated witnesses). A stronger truth that many seem to miss within his books is that blind faith/belief are very dangerous things that only block out anything outside of your accepted reality tunnel.

*Belief is the death of intelligence. As soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence.
-Robert Anton Wilson

*Wisdom is knowing how little you know.
-SocratesWell first of all, you're a bit wrong with the dates Icke started studying this reptilian thing. In The Biggest Secret he says he conducted the interview with Arizona Wilder just a couple weeks before the book went "to the printer". Given with the way he write, it isn't indicated whether or not he conducted the interview with Credo Mutwa before the book was released, though I've seen the interview and he talks about the book so I'll assume not... So that leaves us the fact that he must have done the bulk of his research before encountering either one of them, negating that claim.

We have to ask a few questions here. What is your definition of "corroborated"? It's a word that means things to different people and the slightest difference in definition or conduct of calling something "evidence" can mean the difference of something being "corroborated" or "uncorroborated". People who say these interviewees are not corroborated themselves I wouldn't be surprised are habitual skeptics. Secondly we have to ask what "beliefs" are. It seems that new ideas brought to the table are treated with skepticism while the current belief is treated with this veneer of protection, when we have to remember that both sides in any case should be looked at equally.

We "believe" the earth is solid all the way through, when in fact when you look at the argument to it, you realize it's almost completely dominated by observations of the magnetic field and the assumption that there must be a spinning iron core to create the magnetism.... But wait a minute, what if there is a source of electricity at the center creating the field, such as a suspended sphere of light (or the inner sun as they call it) to produce it? I won't go into this but that's just one point to this.

People aren't agreeing with Icke for the sake that Icke said it, but because he provides evidence to test with psychological, socio-political, economic, and other areas of knowledge. And people are concluding that he has enough evidence to pass the threshold of belief. No they can't believe him about reptilians definitively unless they've seen one with their own eyes, but we believe in so many things we haven't seen with our own eyes yet believe as well, so it's not like this case is exlusively fallacious or something.

He's written numerous phone book-sized books that detail all of this and I suggest reading them yourself and making a virdict on the stuff he wrote. It's as simple as that. If you conclude that he's write, then that's that, someone's conclusion is a product of whatever their mind churned out and you can't exactly criticize that.

[elo_zorn]

Sorry Camreeno, I was a little vague there (purposefully)...I'll try to clarify briefly, as I know the subject matter I'm about to address is generally tossed into the conspiratainment forum...

From what I've read about the Biggest Secret/Arizona Wilder interview time line, the book was basically finished and did not contain the same grand Reptilian theory that Arizona only "added" to. After the interview Icke allegedly changed the whole book based on Arizona's testimony. This is purported by David's old friend/editor Ivan Fraser. While Credu didn't come into the picture until after the book's release, David has claimed multiple times that the "uncorroborated" testimonies of both Arizona and Credu makes for hard, leading evidence of his theory and he uses them as a foundation for it frequently. Since Arizona seems to have been introduced through a government/military contact and Credu has been labeled as a fraud even before speaking to Icke, I smell something fishy...not to mention Arizona seemed like an extremely horrible actor, which could be the reason why many find her incredibly uncomfortable to listen to (or perhaps not only is she lying/acting and doing a bad job of it, but whatever manipulation techniques she was using rub people the wrong way). In my opinion, Icke was either on to something and got side swiped by these two or has been in collaboration with intelligence agencies the whole time. I'm leaning on the former hypothesis...

As for what I meant by belief, I meant the acceptance of something as a complete and whole truth which therefore cuts us off from anything outside the reality tunnel that we all create for ourselves-with our beliefs. The fact that Phfaty continues to ignore my critiques and questions of logic shows that he either has ulterior motives or is completely blinded by his belief. The less belief we have, the wider our reality "tunnels" become.

My opinions are not uninformed like you insinuate-I've read around half of of Icke's books in completion and have picked through almost all of them. They all seem like reguritations of each preceeding book with slight additions of updated research, but a definite change of paths is obvious at the point of "The Biggest Secret". Considering the Arizona factor in re-editing and Credu following soon thereafter, Icke's expansion on his theory still stems from the general timeframe that he met these two...with their character's in question, his whole reptilian theory becomes very questionable to say the least.

I'd like to also add that this is in no way a personal attack against David or his work; please keep in mind which of my hypotheses I'm siding with currently...

Hope I cleared that up my friend!

[camreeno]

I wasn't trying to sound negative so sorry if I sounded like I was.

Sorry Camreeno, I was a little vague there (purposefully)...I'll try to clarify briefly, as I know the subject matter I'm about to address is generally tossed into the conspiratainment forum...

From what I've read about the Biggest Secret/Arizona Wilder interview time line, the book was basically finished and did not contain the same grand Reptilian theory that Arizona only "added" to. After the interview Icke allegedly changed the whole book based on Arizona's testimony. This is purported by David's old friend/editor Ivan Fraser. While Credu didn't come into the picture until after the book's release, David has claimed multiple times that the "uncorroborated" testimonies of both Arizona and Credu makes for hard, leading evidence of his theory and he uses them as a foundation for it frequently. Since Arizona seems to have been introduced through a government/military contact and Credu has been labeled as a fraud even before speaking to Icke, I smell something fishy...not to mention Arizona seemed like an extremely horrible actor, which could be the reason why many find her incredibly uncomfortable to listen to (or perhaps not only is she lying/acting and doing a bad job of it, but whatever manipulation techniques she was using rub people the wrong way). In my opinion, Icke was either on to something and got side swiped by these two or has been in collaboration with intelligence agencies the whole time. I'm leaning on the former hypothesis...

As for what I meant by belief, I meant the acceptance of something as a complete and whole truth which therefore cuts us off from anything outside the reality tunnel that we all create for ourselves-with our beliefs. The fact that Phfaty continues to ignore my critiques and questions of logic shows that he either has ulterior motives or is completely blinded by his belief. The less belief we have, the wider our reality "tunnels" become.

My opinions are not uninformed like you insinuate-I've read around half of of Icke's books in completion and have picked through almost all of them. They all seem like reguritations of each preceeding book with slight additions of updated research, but a definite change of paths is obvious at the point of "The Biggest Secret". Considering the Arizona factor in re-editing and Credu following soon thereafter, Icke's expansion on his theory still stems from the general timeframe that he met these two...with their character's in question, his whole reptilian theory becomes very questionable to say the least.

I'd like to also add that this is in no way a personal attack against David or his work; please keep in mind which of my hypotheses I'm siding with currently...

Hope I cleared that up my friend!

I wasn't saying your point of view is wrong, I just thought your methodology to evaluating information and drawing conclusions could use a boost. The way I look at it is the reptilian theory is validated in that many different sources are describing the same phenomena with so many of the same characteristics, and to me it's extremely unlikely that all of them are lying, misconcieving things, having hallucinations, or are collaboratively creating a false story for some benefit. So I have my money on human psychology. Not everything is in need of physical evidence to be corroborated in my view. For instance we can all agree that we dream, yet we have no physical evidence or residue left behind after dreaming. The same idea can apply to phenomena such as sighting of UFOs, various creatures from cryptozoology (bigfoot, etc. ), and reptilians.

So yeah I think you are just looking at this with a strict physical evidence point of view and I'm just saying you don't nessessarily need it to draw a firm conclusion.

I mean don't get me wrong you definitely have a lot more knowledge in this stuff than the average user than what I can see so I'm not saying you're uninformed.

Getting to what I put in bold... Arizona Wilder definitely has this peculiar tone to her voice throughout the interview but I just don't find it indicative of any lying or anything. I got the impression she was just talking that way because of her experiences which psychologically scarred her, therefore giving her that habitual sounding insecure voice.

I agree with that on belief. You can't really stick to anything and we have to accept the possibility that things we take for granted as "knowing" can be false, I agree. Creating biases can make us subconsciously edit information for the worse, like Icke said numerous times.

I wasn't suggesting you were uninformed, like I said. Personally I've read The David Icke Guide to the Global Conspiracy, Children of the Matrix, and The Biggest Secret, in that order.

Yeah, his books do see derivitive off each other, but it has a purpose. If he didn't do that, then that would mean any reader approaching his material would have to read all his books chronologically to grasp what he was talking about in each book. It's a way of introducing newcomers to his material to give them a foundation for the rest of the book that deals with a specific area. For instance he talks about how the banking system really works in all three books I read, and he seemed to say the same thing in each one.

Yeah hope that cleared things up. Peace!

[morethanatheory]

They will pull off every stunt in the book to slowly kill us off, logically, why do you think cancer cures are held back, and where do you think Swine Flu came from? The more pain and suffering is the world the less HARD work they have to do.

It's alot easier to gradually poison a population and avoid arousing suspicion, than it is to just slaughter them in masses :)

They are in no hurry from what I can gather. That's what the bloodlines are for.

Please correct me if I have made any misinterpretations.