Madeleine and the Masons

[prophe c]

Hi all, great to be here.

I lived in the village of Rothley (the McCanns home village) most of my life and I (know for sure) that there is a (hidden) Knights Templar (freemasons) Lodge in the said Village, hidden deep inside the very exclusive Hotel called (the Royal Court Hotel Rothley) (the "Royal" description having been dropped some years ago)

The pope of Rome outlawed the Order of the Knights Templar back in the 13th century for Heresy, some escaped to Scotland in their "pirate ships flying the black and white skull and Bones flag" (renamed themselves) The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry as a cover organisation twined with the York Rite of freemasonry and are simply known as the (freemasons) today.

However the lodge in question (SHOULD NOT BE THERE) as the Catholics still to this day outlaw the Order of the Knights Templar?

I was privileged enough a couple of years ago (I'm not a freemason) but a freelance Cameraman, (and aquatinted with a 16th degree Mason) in "Filming" (not for public viewing) the freemasons Annual AGM in the provincial freemasons Lodge on London Rd Leicester. In the 3 hour ceremony that followed the "Knights Templar Order" and lodge in Rothley was refereed to as (the good works) and cited their Grand Provincial Master (33rd degree freemason)

Now Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann are both Scottish, is there a link between the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"(the hidden outlawed) Order of the Knights Templar in Rothley?

Are Gerry and Brown in the same (highly secret Order) "within the General secret freemasons" of which consist of 100's or so different Orders/lodges, around the country.

The "Skull and Bones" of Yale University USA who we know are the "Elite" Bush, Ragan, Nixon etc.

Is there an equivalent "Skull and Bones" in England that share the same symbology of the Original Order of the Knights Templar?

And could Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann be a part of this highly secret "Elite" Order?

In the grounds of the Court Hotel is built the "very first preceptory" (chapel or Temple) built by the Templar in England in AD 1122.

The Templars planned their first crusade from this Temple.

Later in the 17th century the "Magnicarter" was signed by William Wilberforce in the same Temple "The abolition of slavery"

King Richard the 3rd Requested he be Buried in the same grounds! but was never buried there after his death?

At the same time in the 17th century ‘Thomas McCauley’ (another Scotsman) was born in these grounds and was to become the ‘Chair of Cambridge University’ the same seat ‘Newton’ frequented.

The Templars are known for inventing Modern Medicine and the Banking system.

Gordon is head of the Government (ex chancellor) banking.

And Gerry McCann is a senior Consultant for cardiology in the (world-renowned) Glenfield Teaching hospital Leicester, medicine.

I can see that the Maddie case is a can of worms and it's ironic to me "that she is surrounded by "the illuminati".

I surmise that this whole case hinges on one Future Fact.

The Microchip.

The necessity to maintain the "Abduction Theory" is paramount in this saga and the Government will uphold that Theory to the utmost.

Microchips and medicine go hand in hand as it will be doctors that implant the chips in the children arms one would imagine.
Also it has come to light that Gerry and Kate used IVF so they could have Maddie and that Gerry wasn’t the donor, I’m getting visions of seedy scientists looking for an Aryan Mother who wants IVF to bare the offspring to a secret elite overlord so to continue the blue bloodline, I’ve heard Kate refer to Maddie as ‘the perfect child’ but behind the scenes, their is talk of a very different story, that maddie was a sleepwalker and was regularly sedated by Kate as she couldn’t cope with the twins, and that she was ‘semi autistic’. Her split retina might be due the scientists ‘tweaking the embryo’ and getting it wrong?

Maybe Maddie was abducted by the ‘men in black’ and done away with, I have read that Beltain is may 5th and that she may have been used in ritual, personally I don’t want to go there, but you never know?

Apparently Gerry is supposed to be good friends with Robert Murat and that they met when Gerry was campaigning for the Labour party in Leicester.

Also Clarence Michel has been working behind the scenes well before the McCanns went to Portugal arranging holidays to Malta, With the Tapas 7 minus the McCanns.?


Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)

Hidden in plain View as always.

Your thoughts on my article are most welcome.

PS I am Anti Mason.

[pedsi]

Hi prophe c great 1st post and welcome to the forum.
Ive had my suspitions about Gerry McCann being well connected right from the start but because of all the association with the catholic church I immagined he was maybe a member of the knights of st columba.
Whatever the case he certainly aint no random joe!!

[illuminotti]

Holidays to malta???? there's just too many coincidences in this story!!

[magicmerlin]

Hi...again welcome to the forum.

Have you read the medeline sacrafice thread - your info certainly supports some views. If you read it you'll also see some people think we are crazy having such views - maybe your information will make them consider what may be really be going on.

[ssyx]

Good post friend.
Maybe you should repost this on the other thread concerning Maddies possible sacrifice.
Maybe it will recieve a little more attention.

[julieray]

Yes very interesting indeed.

There is a link please see;

http://illuminati-news.com/knights-templar-ask-pope-for-apology.htm

This is regarding the Knights Templar seeking an apology from the Pope and he has until the 13th October 2007 (700th anniversary). It did make me wonder if this had any relation to Madeleine's disappearance, possibly a kidnap or a bargaining tool. Mind you they are all working to the same agenda anyway, so perhaps it is all about smokescreens and veils.

[julieray]

Oh, I also forgot to mention too that there has been talk of Madeleine being a clone too. I think this may well be relevant since Clonaid.com already admit to cloning 13 children from around 2002 and 2003, that does fit in well with her. It could also be plausible then that she may have certain problems i.e. autism, because it is still relatively new, all this technology and not supposed to even be happening due to moral and ethical reasons, but that still hasn't stopped them.

I too also heard that Gerry was not the biological father, which also points to the fact that she may well indeed be important to the Illuminati through her lineage. Doing some research on satanic bloodlines, made me aware that the Scottish names of Mac and Mc were all interlinked here too - may be of some relevance.?:)

[greenleaf]

For all you journalists out there, please clarify and confirm if the following relationships are true. We need some serious investigative journalism.

GORDON BROWN & GERRY McCANN
-have had nice telephone chats together.

GORDON, GERRY, & CLARENCE MITCHELL
-Clarence Mitchell is the Head of Media Monitoring for the govt.
-He is also personal friend of Gerry, and has been representing Gerry
(on behalf of govt or himself? ) from the very beginning.

GORDON BROWN, ANDREW BROWN
-Andrew is P.M.s brother and is involved with EDF Energy which is
Europe's largest nuclear energy producer. Andrew Brown is the media director for EDF energy, who are lobbying to build nuclear power stations in Britain.

Gordon Brown wants to restart the nuclear power plant building programme in Britain.


COMARE, ANDREW BROWN, COMARE DIRECTOR, GERRY McCANN
-Gerry McCann is a member of a government quango called COMARE (Committee on Medical Aspects of Radiation in the Environment) which has repeatedly come out in opposition to campaigners who claim that childhood cancers are more prevalent around nuclear power stations

COMARE's director happens to be a cardiologist based at the very hospital where Gerry and Kate first met, the Glasgow Western Infirmary. If COMARE's contacts incorporate individuals in the broader nuclear industry, these might include Andrew Brown: Head of Media for Europe's largest producer of nuclear electricity... and brother of Prime Minister Gordon.

Question: since when is a cardiologist have the experience to
comment on radiation?
Possible Answer: Training of Cardiologists in Radiation Protection (http://rpop.iaea.org/RPoP/RPoP/Content/Documents/Whitepapers/Nsnews.pdf)

BELL POTTINGER, GERRY, GORDON BROWN, NUCLEAR POWER INDUSTRY
"Bell Pottinger represent both the McCanns and the Portuguese holiday village they were staying in. Bell Pottinger also provide PR for the nuclear power industry, have close connections with New Labour (Tony Blair gave Tim bell his peerage), have helped sell New labours unique vision of democracy in Iraq and and have been heavily involved with several of New labours disastrous IT schemes "


SARAH BROWN, JULIA HOBSBAWN, SKY NEWS, GENERAL MEDICAL COUNCIL
-Julia Hobsbawm was a partner in Hobsbawm Macaulay Communications with Sarah Macaulay, now known as Sarah Brown, the wife of British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown.

Julia Hobsbawm (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Julia_Hobsbawm) is now the founder and chief executive of media analysis and networking company Editorial Intelligence
http://editorialintelligence.com

And this is where it gets very interesting.

Julia Hobsbawm's new company 'Editorial Intelligence' specialises in analysing and exploiting comment and opinion in both print and online media. In simple terms, 'Editorial Intelligence' helps realise the potential of controlling the shape and fabric of public opinion and (d)ebate by controlling what is published in comment areas, forum areas, letters pages and message boards. They have even coined a new word for the online/published briTish public; they call it the 'Commentariat' (a play upon the word 'Proletariat' - orginally coined to describe the lower or working classes).

Julia Hobsbawm's 'Editorial Intelligence' describes itself on its website:

"Editorial Intelligence opens a door to a vital and growing world of print and online comment and opinion. What the 'Commentariat' says affects and influences the direction of public opinion and policy alike and with it, corporate reputation ...


SKY NEWS and the GMC (General Medical Council) are clients of Editorial
Analysis. Please clarify and confirm?

JULIA HOBSBAWN, GERRY, JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTRE, PHILIP GREEN
(Julia Hobsbawm is also a trustee of the Jewish Community Centre for London - supported by none other than Sir Philip Green - loaner of jet and reward provider to the McCanns)



T APAS 7 , UNNAMED PERSON
-When the 'abduction theory" first spun its webs, there was mention of the Tapas 7, and one party who could not be named.

UNAMED PERSON, PETER McCann, MALTA, GOZO
-Could the unamed person be Peter McCann who is supposed to
be an Uncle and who has a house in Gozo, Malta.
-There was also mention of sighting in Malta, in amongst Morocco, Spain etc.

P ETER McCANN, CASTLE CRAIG
-Castle Craig is an exclusive private hospital (but gets NHS funding) in
Scotland and all the directors are as follows:


http://www.castlecraig.co.uk/

See about Us then Key Staff
>
Castle Craig Hospital
Directors
Peter McCann MA, ICADC Chairman
Dr Margaret Ann McCann, MB Bch BAO Medical Director
Dr. Michael G. McCann , MD , MA , DIH, MFOM Director
John L McCann BA ACIS Financial Director/Administrator

Castle Craig Hospital is located in 50 acres of grounds in the Scottish Borders. It is a residential hospital for the inpatient treatment of alcoholism and drug addiction. The hospital is registered with the relevant statutory body, namely the Scottish Care Commission. It is a major contractor to the National Health Service and is recognised by the major medical insurers in the U.K. Many insurance companies from other countries fund the treatment at Castle Craig. The hospital is a Preferred Provider to the U.S. Government under the Tricare programme and it is also recognised by the Dutch insurance companies.


There is mention of a holiday home in Gozo, Malta. Is this the same
uncle?
Peter and Dr. Margaret Ann McCann says"

We have worked together in the field of alcoholism and drug addiction since the early 80s. We founded, in the first instance, Clouds House in 1983 and ran it for five years before moving to Scotland and opening up Castle Craig which we have been running ever since.

Both myself and Margaret Ann have presented at many conferences, written papers and belong to a number of professional organisations. In particular Margaret Ann served on the Executive of the Medical Council on Alcohol and I have just been elected a Board Member of the International Council of Alcohol and Addictions. I was also the Founder of the European Association for Treatment of Addiction (EATA).

In our personal life we have been blessed with four delightful children, now aged from 18 to 24. Victoria is a graduate of Newcastle and Stirling Universities and has obtained an MSc in P.R. from the latter. Dominic is final year History at Edinburgh University. Felicity is in her second year at Bristol University Medical School and Peter is awaiting a place in Medical School. We all share an interest in sailing and are fortunate in having a lovely house in Gozo which was paid for many years ago with a small inheritance. We continue to have family holidays together. We also allow staff at Castle Craig and close friends to use the house and it has been a charitable auction prize on several occasions.

Castle Craig has an extended contracts with the US Defence Department treating military personnel for addictions.

Des Browne (our own Defence Sectretary - and another Scot) has been under increasing pressure to deal with our own force's drink and drug problems (in light of the scandal brought about by the HMS Cornwall affair in April).

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsm.....=753452006/

It is entirely likely that given Castle Craig's experience in treating US military personnel they have sough Peter McCann's advice on treating our own military personnel.

Perhaps Caslte Craig even treated servicemen on board the HMS Cornwall, who knows.

That would certainly explain why they slipped into Iranian territory.

Here is something that Peter McCann wrote last year. It might lend weight to rumours about cabinet members and family members having used Castle Craig. See what you think:

"We also read today, about the inappropriate way that Liberal Democrats covered up on their former leader’s alcoholism. This is a typical response we see throughout industry and institutions when members of organisations try to cover up for their sick colleagues. It is quite disgraceful that politicians weld so much power while addicted and when their judgment must be warped. This applies to all political parties. Addiction must be confronted at all times and “tough love” applies to politicians just as much as to doctors, lawyers and family members. "

http://blogg.castlecraig.co.uk.....89228.html/


PETER McCANN, CASTLE CRAIG, HOLLAND, GERRY
-Castle Craig has a branch in Holland. Gerry worked in Holland.


GERRY, JILL RENWICK, JOHN BROWN, GORDON BROWN
-Jill Renwick is a friend of Gerry, and she lives down the road or same
strees as John Brown, who is Gordon Brown's brother.
-maybe nothing here, and just poor John Brown caught in it all.

SO WE HAVE MEDIA, POLITICS, DRUG REHAB, NUCLEAR...anyone join the dots and clarify all of this which is a combination of internet sleuthing?

[julieray]

Very well researched Greenleaf, you must go into detective work!!;)

I always read Matthew James' daily insights into Madeleine his site is;
http://mara-gamiel.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann
he is a very gifted and talented psychic/medium etc.

He made mention quite some time ago that Madeleine was born in a hospital in Holland and prior to her birth there were arguments, contracts to be signed, contracts ripped up etc. etc. as if there was something significant with regards to her conception and subsequent birth - all different goings on within that hospital. It would be interesting to find out who else has links to this hospital and whether or not it is one specifically for the Elite, as I have heard that there are quite a few that are purely for this type of secret society/Illuminati.

Furthermore, with the nuclear link, I have recently watched the David Icke DVD to do with the Antichrist and all these scientists that are involved in nuclear power at the top most level are Illuminati/satanist. I know it is going back some time but the Hiroshima attrocity was apparently implimented in order for the antichrist to be borne from this. I cannot remember the man's name, I will have to watch it again, but apparently the seed of the antichrist apparently lived and was a girl and was infused with nuclear power, or words to that effect from this bomb. It may all sound completely far fetched and laughable, but whose to say that some of these fanatics are not trying to manufacture this too. It has certainly been mentioned that the Illuminati are manufacturing the events of the book of Revelations, so this then would not be too far out for these sort of people. Especially with the link to the Nuclear Energy, it most certainly all links in with what I watched some time back.

Very interesting too with regards to the Intelligence link on the forums and comments. What a very good idea to assess public opinion but also supress those who are onto the right path. There have been comments I have made on various news blogs and although it pops up with confirmation of your view, it also says that it will be read and discretion made as to whether they choose to show it. Some of mine have never been placed on the link, it certainly make you wonder.

I hope you get some more feedback from your post and well done!!:D

[crowhawk]

Hi...again welcome to the forum.

Have you read the medeline sacrafice thread - your info certainly supports some views. If you read it you'll also see some people think we are crazy having such views - maybe your information will make them consider what may be really be going on.

Or make them even more certain you are "crazy"! "Because Their home town has a Masonic Lodge"? Almost every town in Britain has one. "Gerry McCann & Gordon Brown are both Scottish" & your point is?? "Scot-Free-Mason"? "Gerry McCann is a doctor"! So therefore he must be part of a sixteenth century conspiracy with Pirates? "Beltain" This is the biggest collection of idiotic conjecture without the slightest regard for truth, evidence, or even plausibility! It's completely delusional.

For your information micro-chipping doesn't need a doctor or even a vet, anyone with a little training in where to insert the applicator can do it. They are not proven to cause cancer that I'm aware of but may have the potential to "migrate" to other areas of the body which may have the potential to cause problems.

[julieray]

Or make them even more certain you are "crazy"! "Because Their home town has a Masonic Lodge"? Almost every town in Britain has one. "Gerry McCann & Gordon Brown are both Scottish" & your point is?? "Scot-Free-Mason"? "Gerry McCann is a doctor"! So therefore he must be part of a sixteenth century conspiracy with Pirates? "Beltain" This is the biggest collection of idiotic conjecture without the slightest regard for truth, evidence, or even plausibility! It's completely delusional.

For your information micro-chipping doesn't need a doctor or even a vet, anyone with a little training in where to insert the applicator can do it. They are not proven to cause cancer that I'm aware of but may have the potential to "migrate" to other areas of the body which may have the potential to cause problems.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion Crowhawk and whilst you seem to be damning those unique enough to have a mind of their own without, as you say, truth, evidence, or even plausibility, take a look at the other side of the coin. Are you seriously considering that this is your straight forward run of the mill child abduction??? We think not, call it intuition if you like but this whole story stinks because that is exactly what it is a story in order to suck us all in - don't fall for it!! By the way, you come across as a bit of an expert in the field of microchipping, from what I have read it is something that is injected under the skin, therefore medical training would be required. If it is incorrect, where did you get your information from??

[crowhawk]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion Crowhawk and whilst you seem to be damning those unique enough to have a mind of their own without, as you say, truth, evidence, or even plausibility, take a look at the other side of the coin. Are you seriously considering that this is your straight forward run of the mill child abduction??? We think not, call it intuition if you like but this whole story stinks because that is exactly what it is a story in order to suck us all in - don't fall for it!! By the way, you come across as a bit of an expert in the field of microchipping, from what I have read it is something that is injected under the skin, therefore medical training would be required. If it is incorrect, where did you get your information from??

I'm not damning anyone & certainly not " unique enough to have a mind of their own"! Greenleaf's post in this thread raises some interesting points. I have to at least consider that this is, as you put it," a straight forward, run of the mill child abduction". Is there such a thing? A couple of years ago a child vanished in similar circumstances seven miles from where Madeleine was "allegedly abducted". The child's father claims the police beat a confession from his wife,(photographic evidence supports this claim) who is now serving life for murder. This child's body hasn't been recovered. Strange they can get her to confess to murder but not where she put the body? I think if there is a conspiracy, it lies firmly with the Portuguese Police, under pressure from their government desperate to avoid losing £ millions in tourist revenue. Who's going to take their kids on holiday somewhere there might be a child serial killer on the loose? You must have some form of evidence or at least logic to make a case, intuition is neither. I've got to be honest whenever I hear words like Satanic Ritual Abuse, Antichrist, etc, I get the same feeling I get when I see the Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on my door.

Microchip ID tags are about the size of a grain of rice & are injected into the muscle, not under the skin (this can cause migration). They come pre-loaded in a hyperdermic needle attached to a syringe. The tag has a special coating which encourages tissue growth around it thus keeping it in place. My only experience of their use is in birds as I'm involved in a falcon breeding project. I no longer use them as legally each bird must carry a numbered closed ID ring on it's leg. Also at the time there were a number of tags from different manufacturers on the market, scanners from one company were unable to read tags from another, there was no standardisation & predictably the British gov dept DEFRA acquired the cheapest & least efficient of them all.

Julieray Your avatar is very Freudian or is it just me?

[adimon]

Hi all, great to be here.

I lived in the village of Rothley (the McCanns home village) most of my life and I (know for sure) that there is a (hidden) Knights Templar (freemasons) Lodge in the said Village, hidden deep inside the very exclusive Hotel called (the Royal Court Hotel Rothley) (the "Royal" description having been dropped some years ago)

The pope of Rome outlawed the Order of the Knights Templar back in the 13th century for Heresy, some escaped to Scotland in their "pirate ships flying the black and white skull and Bones flag" (renamed themselves) The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry as a cover organisation twined with the York Rite of freemasonry and are simply known as the (freemasons) today.

However the lodge in question (SHOULD NOT BE THERE) as the Catholics still to this day outlaw the Order of the Knights Templar?

I was privileged enough a couple of years ago (I'm not a freemason) but a freelance Cameraman, (and aquatinted with a 16th degree Mason) in "Filming" (not for public viewing) the freemasons Annual AGM in the provincial freemasons Lodge on London Rd Leicester. In the 3 hour ceremony that followed the "Knights Templar Order" and lodge in Rothley was refereed to as (the good works) and cited their Grand Provincial Master (33rd degree freemason)

Now Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann are both Scottish, is there a link between the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"(the hidden outlawed) Order of the Knights Templar in Rothley?

Are Gerry and Brown in the same (highly secret Order) "within the General secret freemasons" of which consist of 100's or so different Orders/lodges, around the country.

The "Skull and Bones" of Yale University USA who we know are the "Elite" Bush, Ragan, Nixon etc.

Is there an equivalent "Skull and Bones" in England that share the same symbology of the Original Order of the Knights Templar?

And could Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann be a part of this highly secret "Elite" Order?

In the grounds of the Court Hotel is built the "very first preceptory" (chapel or Temple) built by the Templar in England in AD 1122.

The Templars planned their first crusade from this Temple.

Later in the 17th century the "Magnicarter" was signed by William Wilberforce in the same Temple "The abolition of slavery"

King Richard the 3rd Requested he be Buried in the same grounds! but was never buried there after his death?

At the same time in the 17th century ‘Thomas McCauley’ (another Scotsman) was born in these grounds and was to become the ‘Chair of Cambridge University’ the same seat ‘Newton’ frequented.

The Templars are known for inventing Modern Medicine and the Banking system.

Gordon is head of the Government (ex chancellor) banking.

And Gerry McCann is a senior Consultant for cardiology in the (world-renowned) Glenfield Teaching hospital Leicester, medicine.

I can see that the Maddie case is a can of worms and it's ironic to me "that she is surrounded by "the illuminati".

I surmise that this whole case hinges on one Future Fact.

The Microchip.

The necessity to maintain the "Abduction Theory" is paramount in this saga and the Government will uphold that Theory to the utmost.

Microchips and medicine go hand in hand as it will be doctors that implant the chips in the children arms one would imagine.
Also it has come to light that Gerry and Kate used IVF so they could have Maddie and that Gerry wasn’t the donor, I’m getting visions of seedy scientists looking for an Aryan Mother who wants IVF to bare the offspring to a secret elite overlord so to continue the blue bloodline, I’ve heard Kate refer to Maddie as ‘the perfect child’ but behind the scenes, their is talk of a very different story, that maddie was a sleepwalker and was regularly sedated by Kate as she couldn’t cope with the twins, and that she was ‘semi autistic’. Her split retina might be due the scientists ‘tweaking the embryo’ and getting it wrong?

Maybe Maddie was abducted by the ‘men in black’ and done away with, I have read that Beltain is may 5th and that she may have been used in ritual, personally I don’t want to go there, but you never know?

Apparently Gerry is supposed to be good friends with Robert Murat and that they met when Gerry was campaigning for the Labour party in Leicester.

Also Clarence Michel has been working behind the scenes well before the McCanns went to Portugal arranging holidays to Malta, With the Tapas 7 minus the McCanns.?


Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)

Hidden in plain View as always.

Your thoughts on my article are most welcome.

PS I am Anti Mason.

Please quote your sources for this information.

[trumansho]

It's sad that this little girl was killed by her parents,but black kids are killed everyday by racist cops and I'm always posting topics about it and ya'll never respond,but ya'll preach that unity bs on here.

[tinmenace]

Excellent thread!

[julieray]

I'm not damning anyone & certainly not " unique enough to have a mind of their own"! Greenleaf's post in this thread raises some interesting points. I have to at least consider that this is, as you put it," a straight forward, run of the mill child abduction". Is there such a thing? A couple of years ago a child vanished in similar circumstances seven miles from where Madeleine was "allegedly abducted". The child's father claims the police beat a confession from his wife,(photographic evidence supports this claim) who is now serving life for murder. This child's body hasn't been recovered. Strange they can get her to confess to murder but not where she put the body? I think if there is a conspiracy, it lies firmly with the Portuguese Police, under pressure from their government desperate to avoid losing £ millions in tourist revenue. Who's going to take their kids on holiday somewhere there might be a child serial killer on the loose? You must have some form of evidence or at least logic to make a case, intuition is neither. I've got to be honest whenever I hear words like Satanic Ritual Abuse, Antichrist, etc, I get the same feeling I get when I see the Jehovah's Witnesses knocking on my door.

Microchip ID tags are about the size of a grain of rice & are injected into the muscle, not under the skin (this can cause migration). They come pre-loaded in a hyperdermic needle attached to a syringe. The tag has a special coating which encourages tissue growth around it thus keeping it in place. My only experience of their use is in birds as I'm involved in a falcon breeding project. I no longer use them as legally each bird must carry a numbered closed ID ring on it's leg. Also at the time there were a number of tags from different manufacturers on the market, scanners from one company were unable to read tags from another, there was no standardisation & predictably the British gov dept DEFRA acquired the cheapest & least efficient of them all.

Julieray Your avatar is very Freudian or is it just me?

I appreciate your wariness and caution and perhaps you think that some people have jumped on the bandwagon and assumed that Maddy has been sacrificed, etc. etc. which is not what the normal person would have thought. In fact I was devastated when she first went missing, like many thousands of others, I couldn't concentrate on anything I was doing in my own personal life because I was thinking of Maddy 24 hours per day. But then when you take into account all the inconsistencies, the media frenzy, the sightings, the claims that she has been killed, the so called dna evidence, alarm bells must surely be ringing, even if it is to think that the police in the investigation are completely inadequate and are grasping at straws. Furthermore, when you look at what happened right at the outset here, for instance, the seemingly controlled emotions of the McCanns (either they had killed her or they knew she was alive!) The McCann's Uncle giving up his job the very next day to set up the "Fund" - I personally think that is suspicious in itself because how did they know she wasn't going to be found for a long time, she could have been found the very next day - a bit presumptious don't you think to suddenly give up a job?? Leaving no stone unturned!!! They have left every stone unturned. I know of a few psychic people who have offered their help and assistance to help find Madeleine - these offers have not been taken up. Had it been my child, I would appeal and be grateful for any assistance no matter how small of a chance of finding them. I would be knocking on doors and searching everywhere myself and I would never give up. My friend was on the Find Madeleine Fund too and this also does not add up because all they were interested in was getting in as much money as possible. For example when she asked what she should ask an MP she knew as a favour, say for some political pull to get matters going on sending out intelligence/police force/sniffer dogs/any input in actually finding Madeleine, she was told to ask for everyone to put in a fiver!!! There is simply so much that does not make sense here, that you must come to the conclusion that perhaps those in a position of power are deceiving us, for whatever reason, because they obviously know something and are not telling us. So as far fetched as some people's views have been on this subject, it is only because we have been left to ponder and wonder. Also, when you have read David Icke's books and are aware of the system the Illuminati play by, you can also see the patterns emerging, so of course you are cynical of what you hear on the TV as you are naturally suspicious anyway.

I have tried to see a reasonable explanation emerging, but there just isn't one, although I am sure a good old yarn will be spun for our entertainment when she is eventually brought back from the dead!! What a miracle that will be, but she had never been killed anyway.

My avatar is from Wingmakers. Some people find it full of disinformation but I actually find it very thought provoking and full of more truth than not. I am not sure where the pictures have actually come from because the story Wingmakers tell is of these pictures being found in New Mexico under the ground, but that was always portrayed to be a story and not a factual piece of information. I personally like the scientific explanation of the whole human instrument being explained.

[strawberry]

Can anyone help me here I am new so lots of questions.

Are Jahovahs witnesses connected to the Masons and does anyone know if richard branson, brian kennedy and gerry mccann are masons.

There is someone on the mirror forum who says he knows that gerry is a mason and even knows which lodge he is in.

Brian Kennedy is a jahovahs witness

and richard branson is an atheist

[tinmenace]

Can anyone help me here I am new so lots of questions.

Are Jahovahs witnesses connected to the Masons and does anyone know if richard branson, brian kennedy and gerry mccann are masons.

There is someone on the mirror forum who says he knows that gerry is a mason and even knows which lodge he is in.

Brian Kennedy is a jahovahs witness

and richard branson is an atheist

Not sure, but I'm certain that there are JW's, Masons and Atheists involved in Satanism, amongst others.

[crowhawk]

Jehovah's Witnesses have nothing to do with the masons. Atheist & Satanist would be a contradiction in terms. Atheist by definition do not believe in gods, therefore they don't believe in Satan!

[tinmenace]

Jehovah's Witnesses have nothing to do with the masons. Atheist & Satanist would be a contradiction in terms. Atheist by definition do not believe in gods, therefore they don't believe in Satan!

Ok...

Edit: "Atheists".

;)

[crowhawk]

The Jehovah's Witlesses are very sectarian in their outlook. They try to avoid being "Contaminated"? by outside influences. I had a friend who married a Jonah. Before they would allow him to marry her they got him to convert to their religion. They then provided them with a house & him with a job (Thus maintaining a dependence upon their church) When he couldn't take any more of it & stopped going to the church, his wife was persuaded to leave him, he lost his job & they threw him out of the house. So they could be said to run their organisation in the same nepotistic way as the masons!

[phildee3]

The Jehovah's Witlesses are very sectarian in their outlook. They try to avoid being "Contaminated"? by outside influences. I had a friend who married a Jonah. Before they would allow him to marry her they got him to convert to their religion. They then provided them with a house & him with a job (Thus maintaining a dependence upon their church) When he couldn't take any more of it & stopped going to the church, his wife was persuaded to leave him, he lost his job & they threw him out of the house. So they could be said to run their organisation in the same nepotistic way as the masons!

They're all fuckin' wackos.
That puts them in the same club as far as I'm concerned!

[strider]

Yup the whole thing was a ritual sacrifice from start to finish, maybe not physically as we don't know for certain (but I'm sure we know the score here), but mentally and spiritually it was. Especially for parents.

It spawned the most hideous poster I've seen here in Europe. The title was, and I'm not shitting here, 'look into my eyes'. The prelude announcement on the news was always 'Missing Madeline Mcann'. Hmm, no symbolism there then. Also, they used the pic where her pupil seems to have leaked, and looking to it, it was bang on the 7 stroke of a clock.

And as someone said before on the thread, this is happening everyday, all day. 100's of thousands of kids go missing every year. 100's of thousands!!! So the fact they saturated the news rung the alarm bells instantly.

Of course, I was the bad guy, when everyone was grieving I was saying it was a set up and that it was a fucking disgrace.

This is the next big step forward for microchipping. You'll be a Madeline denier if you don't accept it..

[clint web]

She was sacrificed by the Illuminati in order to introduce the microchip?

Well, I've heard everything now. That beats the lot, alien abduction, Elvis still alive, etc.

I knew this forum would be good, but it's even better than I thought :)

[strider]

She was sacrificed by the Illuminati in order to introduce the microchip?

Well, I've heard everything now. That beats the lot, alien abduction, Elvis still alive, etc.

I knew this forum would be good, but it's even better than I thought :)

Mate, I hate to sound patronizing in any way, but when you look into the satanic symbolism etc. you would be amazed.

To me, and many others, it was a blatant inside job, but you need to know how the illuminati work. They thrive on symbolism, pain and hopelessness. That is their hall mark.

[clint web]

They're evil, that's for sure. Would there be a reason to take her to Portugal to kill her? Why not do it at the Masonic lodge in her home town?

I feel really sorry for this kid. I hope they get the killer or abductor.

[strider]

They're evil, that's for sure. Would there be a reason to take her to Portugal to kill her? Why not do it at the Masonic lodge in her home town?

I feel really sorry for this kid. I hope they get the killer or abductor.

I don't know about the significance in the whole portugal thing, but it was a 'family site'..

To be honest, I haven't got the capabilities to imagine what it would've been like for her. Only through childhood memories can I imagine.

What I was getting at, was it was a different sort of sacrifice, it was one of the soul and mind, in my opinion, of the nation at large.

I have no real idea, it's all speculation..

Sorry I couldn't add more...

[greenleaf]

They're evil, that's for sure. Would there be a reason to take her to Portugal to kill her? Why not do it at the Masonic lodge in her home town?

I feel really sorry for this kid. I hope they get the killer or abductor.

maybe something to do with the nearest church being the Church of our lady of the light.. only about 5 mile away and there was missing time were they claim to be on the beach, yet no-one except friends can back that claim.

[julieray]

My limited knowledge on Freemasons is that you have to believe in a God in order to join. I wonder if that means that as you climb the scaly heights of the Craft then you can be manipulated to believe that the one true God is their God. It makes you wonder why normally intelligent and sensible people can be so easily manipulated into the kind of things we see and hear about especially with the theories of the 33 degree masons and above. As a fellow human being, I cannot possibly comprehend condoning that sort of activity and working towards an agenda that is not for the benefit of mankind as a whole. Call it brainwashing, possession or body snatching, something very significant must happen to them to want to be part of that.

From reading other threads, I think Gerry McCann has got links to a secret society, be it Freemasonry, Knights Templar, Knights of Malta or Priory of Sion. At the end of the day will we ever really know?

[crowhawk]

My limited knowledge on Freemasons is that you have to believe in a God in order to join. I wonder if that means that as you climb the scaly heights of the Craft then you can be manipulated to believe that the one true God is their God.

They believe in or envisage god, or purport to, as the great architect. They manipulate children in schools to believe their god is the one true god! Masons are mostly middle aged men. It's probably a bit too late to manipulate them in to believing in god or otherwise.

[magicmerlin]

Clint web - it's exactly your views of the world which explains how something like this could happen......ignorance. Remember that once upon a time people got ridiculed for thinking the world was round.....'yes mate the world is round'....'blah the world is round I've heard it all now mate, next you'll be saying people will be able to wizz through the sky'. Think my friend, otherwise in a hundred years time they will say 'I can't believe people used to think the microchip was a joke'.

I'm not saying the maddy case is definately about chipping, but you should not be so narrow minded.

[phildee3]

She was sacrificed by the Illuminati in order to introduce the microchip?

No. That was a convenient bonus.
Like 9/11 as an excuse to invade Iraq.
The main reason is offerings to their "god."

[phildee3]

I hope they get the killer or abductor.

"They" are the abductors (plural - according to Kate McCann).

Why Portugal?
Easy getaway on a flight to DC, - with police cooperation.

[clint web]

Magicmerlin,

Ok, from this point on, my intention is just to agree with whatever the original starter of a thread says.

Is that ok with you? I don't intend to have a voice anymore. Jesus, you're just like the politicians when it comes down to it - follow the party line.

I intend to AGREE, don't worry.

[magicmerlin]

Well your first post Clint was basically taking the piss, ''I knew this forum would be good, but it's even better than I thought''. That statement implies you think this is some kind of joke, and you joined the forum to laugh at conspiracy theories. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing, you 'may' be correct, but then again you 'might' not be. You think micro-chipping is a myth?

[tinmenace]

Well your first post Clint was basically taking the piss, ''I knew this forum would be good, but it's even better than I thought''. That statement implies you think this is some kind of joke, and you joined the forum to laugh at conspiracy theories. There's nothing wrong with disagreeing, you 'may' be correct, but then again you 'might' not be. You think micro-chipping is a myth?

Well, he did call us "Ickeys"... :rolleyes::D;)

[clint web]

Do i think micro chipping is a myth - no i don't. It's what the Rothschilds have in store for us according to Arron Russo.

[gullick]

Do i think micro chipping is a myth - no i don't. It's what the Rothschilds have in store for us according to Arron Russo.

You must be one of those "Russo-ies"

[clint web]

I am Gullick.

[whitelightrabbit]

The Jehovah's Witlesses are very sectarian in their outlook. They try to avoid being "Contaminated"? by outside influences. I had a friend who married a Jonah. Before they would allow him to marry her they got him to convert to their religion. They then provided them with a house & him with a job (Thus maintaining a dependence upon their church) When he couldn't take any more of it & stopped going to the church, his wife was persuaded to leave him, he lost his job & they threw him out of the house. So they could be said to run their organisation in the same nepotistic way as the masons!

he's still better off i'd say. very typical of JW's though.

[researcher99]

Hello all,

My first post here. :)

I can shed a little light on a couple of questions and points raised....

First, Richard Branson is a high-ranking Freemason. You can Google it.

Second, The only "spiritual or religious" requirement for becoming a Mason is that you "believe in a supreme being," which, of course, means that you could worship Satan or darboards and you would qualfy.

This is a great thread... Looking forward to reading more informative posts.

[mariag]

Jehovah's Witnesses have nothing to do with the masons. Atheist & Satanist would be a contradiction in terms. Atheist by definition do not believe in gods, therefore they don't believe in Satan!

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Jehovah%20Witnesses/jw.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Jehovah%20Witnesses/early_watch_tower_cover.jpg

[ravenswing]

The Russel bloodline is a well known illuminati bloodline, with them starting the JW's and creating the MK Ultra scene. The article above shows the symbolism and you are free to reject it but I think that it shows a connection. I also believe that all religion was created as a means of keeping the masses in line, so any founder of a "new" religion will be found to have bloodline ties to the illuminati and one of the secret societies. Just my opinion though :)

[paganus]

Hello all,

My first post here. :)

I can shed a little light on a couple of questions and points raised....

First, Richard Branson is a high-ranking Freemason. You can Google it.

Second, The only "spiritual or religious" requirement for becoming a Mason is that you "believe in a supreme being," which, of course, means that you could worship Satan or darboards and you would qualfy.

This is a great thread... Looking forward to reading more informative posts.spot on there! you can worship anything as long as its monotheistic.

[phildee3]

spot on there! you can worship anything as long as its monotheistic.

Huh??
Monotheistic = One God.

[titan]

Now, I can’t remember all your posts but drawing to my own conclusions, reading forums and doing some investigating I can now see and read that you were totally specific about what was happening all along.

Your post and my information:

An old house, a stately home, you were hearing the word pebbles or peebles.

Castlecraig in Scotland is a clinic to get over addictions. I’ve read on the net that they also help soldiers in Iraq. The nearest town to Castlecraig is Peebles.

The owner is a Peter McCann. He is part of the Order of Malta. He used to be the covenor of companions. He owns a boat and has a home on Gozo.

In the last week I’ve learned a lot about secret societies on the net. The SMOM is part of it too, in fact they are very powerful as you know. Blackwater is of the order of Malta which I discovered. Going back to your posts I see you have a link to this too. In fact I didn’t pay any attention to your knights of malta section until today.

Rupert Murdoch is in the SMOM as are various members of the White House past and present. Sadly, Nazi war criminals are there too, but hey, the bad guys have to be honoured in some way for parting with their details on mind control.

In the UK we have an organisation called the Common Purpose. It’s in schools, councils, colleges, police forces up and down the country. It has been described as a ‘Trojan Horse’ by another truth seeking individual, all I did was google Common Purpose and the SMOM. I hope you find it, but I’m sure you don’t need any evidence.

It was reported that the tapas met up for secret talks in Rothley Hotel. Well, this house has a freemasons lodge in the grounds. Google grand prior , Rothley please, you’ll find a link to the templars.

So this is why there is a pact of silence from the tapas. Mabye one of them had a child though pioneering well connected methods too.

Madeleines coloboma, her eye, is the perfect physical logo for their agenda. It would also be a very important symbol as the Vatican has a keyhole layout, it’s Masonic symbol, I could go on.

Two factions have been disagreeing, or there may have been 1 faction which was more sinister than the other. MM was taken on the 3rd aged 3. =33 33 is an important no. Still haven’t found anything of relevance re. 357 mabye it was just the date and that’s all.

After MM was taken she was put on a boat and was taken on a pilgrimage.

Gerry went to Washington. Why. Well it’s the freemason heartland that’s why. Mabye the Vatican is too. Washingtons layout is based on Masonic symbols.

Gerry had to go, he had no choice, he would do anything to get his daughter back, he’s a puppet as you say and he is being punished through the press. Maddy has ‘died’ but she will be ‘resurrected’ miracle maddy, peoples prayers will be answered, Catholicism may gain in popularity and folk will agre too a solution. From chaos comes order.

Finally I ask you to google Masonichip. Note the bee and the talk of the worker bees .

So, I’m left feeling frightened for my daughter and her childrens future. But I must remain happy as this is total evidence to me that there is life after death, which I’ve always known but never had hard evidence as you have given me.

The human spirit is indomitable.

[magicmerlin]

why does your research make you think there is life after death? thanks.....

[titan]

Many sightings of Madeleine on Malta.

The SMOM, the Vaticans military mafia

Malta = Atlam = Atlantis imo

Plato's Atlantis.

[phildee3]

After MM was taken she was put on a boat and was taken on a pilgrimage.


Fanciful fiction!
She was actually taken to the airport and on to DC.

[kweli]

Fanciful fiction!
She was actually taken to the airport and on to DC.

Can you give a source for this actual information?

[paganus]

Huh??
Monotheistic = One God.yeah,the masons insist on it,apparently.

[phildee3]

yeah,the masons insist on it,apparently.

So how come you say they allow candidates to "worship anything"?
Make up my mind for me, will you? :o

[phildee3]

Can you give a source for this actual information?

Yes.
i) Common sense.
ii) The grounded, logical processing of all the information available to date (objective and unemotional).
iii) The Akashic records.

[blah]

Interesting website worth a look and support!
http://www.antislavery.org/

[phildee3]

Interesting website worth a look and support!
http://www.antislavery.org/

Definately!
But you're on the wrong thread.

[blah]

I am not really on the wrong thread if you looked through the site I just gave you.. Supposing Medeline was captured as a sexual slave or sacrificed for illuminati reasons - and I do believe that this was the case. Looking at the evidence. Plus if if we are to learn from this .. this is a lesson to wake up and take notice of the millions of missing children ( not only medeline ) .. and question .. I think mostly the answer is obvious.
http://www.anti-slaverysociety.addr.com/sacrifice.htm

There has been a revival in talismanic child sacrifice, that is, the mutilation and murder of young children in the belief that this will achieve material gains either in the form of power or wealth, according to a report by the Anti-Slavery Society. It involves, according to the report, the severing of limbs and other parts while the child is alive, the pain experienced by the child augments or intensifies the potency of the sacrifice as the child's cries awakens dark supernatural powers.

Human sacrifice of children was formerly restricted to Africa and eastern India. It now extends to the United Kingdom and Western Europe.

The material in this report is based on Missions to West Africa and India by the Society's Secretary-General.

THE SOCIETY IN ACTION.

The Society completed a Mission to Africa to investigate talismanic child sacrifice involving the organized ritual mutilation and ritual murder of young children by powerful politicians and wealthy businessmen.

[paganus]

So how come you say they allow candidates to "worship anything"?
Make up my mind for me, will you? :oanything provided candidate claims it is their only god.in other words you cant be a pantheist (such as myself) and a mason.

[sir nob jerkoff]

Excellent thread! I think just about everything i set out to post here has been covered - (Peter McCann (though i haven't seen any proof he is related), Castle Craig, Knights of Malta, COMARE, Common Purpose, Rothley Chapel, potential cloning etc). Now all that's left is to post my masonic picture collection. ;) Click the thumbnails for a larger version.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/9744/pei2fw8.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pei2fw8.jpg)

Diagonally across from the apartment where Madeleine McCann disappeared is a small pyramid monument with an eagle on top (the head of the eagle apparently looks in the direction of the apartment). It is described as a mausoleum in the garden of a private villa called 'Casa Niobe' (Niobe is the Greek goddess of mourning) owned by a German couple (the Kunz), and is at the opposite end of the street to 'Casa Liliana' (where Robert Murat lives with his mother).

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/6172/pi1oz8.th.jpg (http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pi1oz8.jpg) http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7413/praiadaluzslx468x626kz3.th.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=praiadaluzslx468x626kz3.jpg)

Close ups:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6648/jardimnaluz1vg1.th.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jardimnaluz1vg1.jpg)http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9724/jardimnaluz2xu0.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jardimnaluz2xu0.jpg)http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6292/jardimnaluz3sh9.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jardimnaluz3sh9.jpg)
The inscription on the pyramid reads 'AMOR VINCIT OMNIA' (Love Conquers All). It is surrounded by Greek mythological figures.

Here are the creepy McCanns making a press statement in front of it:

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8855/pii1mx9.th.jpg (http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pii1mx9.jpg)

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5417/pi2pf6.th.jpg (http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pi2pf6.jpg)

And 'bowing' to it (forced by the police tape)

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8074/pi5qh6.th.jpg (http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pi5qh6.jpg)

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=pt%7Cen&u=http://paramimtantofaz.blogspot.com/2007_05_01_archive.html

[sir nob jerkoff]

And now a picture of Gerry giving a business style lecture complete with flash charts on his latest..err...project:

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1884/gerrymccannwx9.th.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gerrymccannwx9.jpg) http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6357/logisticsqb8.th.jpg (http://img174.imageshack.us/my.php?image=logisticsqb8.jpg)

Notice anything?

http://www.cuttingedge.org/MasonicCompass.jpg



"Kate is a keen runner and in the last few days has tried to include a run in the daily routine. Yesterday (Sat) at 7am we ran to the monument at the top of the steep cliff overlooking Praia de Luz. We reached it in 19 minutes."

Guess what the monument at the top of the hill overlooking Praia Da Luz - or 'Beach of Light' - that Gerry once wrote about Kate 'beating her personal best' by running to is?

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3635/npraiadaluzobeliskxs5.th.jpg (http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=npraiadaluzobeliskxs5.jpg)

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4338/klipluz6yu3.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=klipluz6yu3.jpg)

Original link (http://www.traveluzion.com/photos/displayimage.php?album=11&pos=13)

[sir nob jerkoff]

And just for fun...who is this Gerry's sister is practically bowing to as he sweeps self-importantly out of the McCann's Rothley home?

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8601/sep10ym9.jpg

I wonder if he has 'Grand Master Flash and Melle Mell' on his car stereo. And walks about with one creased trouser leg. :-/

[phildee3]

anything provided candidate claims it is their only god.in other words you cant be a pantheist (such as myself) and a mason.

These two statements seem contradictory to me.
If you worship a demi god you are a pantheist (imo).
Isn't a pantheist someone who simply acknowledges that there are many gods, or do you have to worship them all to be a pantheist?

[titan]

Sir Knob

Castlecraig has a hospital in the netherlands aswell. This is where GM was doing research.

research?

MM IVF was in the netherlands I heard (i think, might be dreaming)

IVF? Clone?

Very well connected people here. Secret Societies? I think it's a given really.

It's interesting to look at the donations from the money men too, sport, richard branson, the guy from Stobo Castle which has NHS connections.

Investment by proxy?

She'll be home I'm sure.

[titan]

Although no actual link has been made to Peter McCann being related he is definatley of the Order of Malta.

[titan]

Lots of micro chipping going on in sport at the moment.

That's a good way to get the kids;) peados to get the parents;)

although it's just one of the main reasons, these people are very clever

[julieray]

This may be going off on a bit of a tangent, but I think it will highlight the sort of people we are dealing with right across the board.

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/dm_report.html

I have just read this page and from my limited knowledge, it rings true to me and I am inclined to believe what is said. If it is indeed true, we won't have that much longer to wait now since all the destruction and devastation etc. the Illuminati/Secret Societies are working towards, will be very much in vain and I think that they are already believing this themselves.

[titan]

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:GUkzy6h0dpEJ:newspaceman.blogspot.c om/2008/01/hell-of-dentist.html+the+newspaceman+hell+of+the+dentist&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1

I think this is importnat too regarding her ongoing kidnapping.

[titan]

On another hyperlink there is a photo showing the lisbon treaty logo

isboa? egyptian serpents


aye aye

credit to that blogger

edit:

if you click the 'this' hyperlink it takes to another page, this is where you will see the Lisbon Treaty setup/logo. They way it has been designed is the highlight the IS = Isis and BOA = serpent

[chicken]

A serpent cult could be related to the NHS. I have been doing a lot of research about this concept of the single and double snake wrapped around poles.

Anyhow this relates to other secret societies and that is including the freemasons. The source of freemasonry is the Theosophical Society. I think in 1912 the BMA bought the TS headoffice in Russell Square right next door to the Tavistock Institute.

I also have read that if you train as a Doctor - you are then linked to your training institution via a lodge. I will try and find that link. Doctors are freemasons by default....

The St Johns Ambulance is directly linked to the Knights Templar and then to the Order of Malta

You discuss chipping - its the only way to get chipped - visit a doctor or dentist from what I read

[drakul]

The source of freemasonry is the Theosophical Society. I think in 1912 the BMA bought the TS headoffice in Russell Square right next door to the Tavistock Institute.


Interesting. Please elaborate and provide a source for this.

[chicken]

Anna Kingsford - one of the first female doctors in the UK
She was made President of the Theosophical Society. She promoted a Western, Christian and Hermetic esotericism that diverged with the Oriental esotericism of H.P. Blavatsky. She moved on I think to the Order of the Golden Dawn

By the way - where did this woman live? My village I now live in...

The ancient and universal symbol of the Cadeuceus is the perennial emblem of the medical profession - of course it has other meanings as well, such as a potent symbol used in the Hermetic Arts.

The C is related to how the energies in our human bodies function - the connections of raising of the Kundalini.

The snake swallowing its own tail?.........

[chicken]

Drakul - here is your link on the NHS BMA site

http://www.bma.org.uk/ap.nsf/Content/BMAHouseHistoryAndArchitecture

Lutyens was a theosopholist.....

[chicken]

it seems to me that medicine and theosophy go together really well. Actually so do a few other people if you research it. It has huge connections with psychiatry and psychology and was an early form of life coaching......

Having worked all that out the caudecus is known for thievery and trickery within the medical profession. Do you want a link to that as well.....

Chicken

[titan]

Very interesting Chicken, thankyou

[chicken]

glad to help....

masons have a lot to answer for..... if that is the truth of it. In reality - doctors kill more people than any other cause in America. What that means to the UK - not sure. Does this apply?

[chicken]

Psychologists+Theosophist....
William James , philosopher and psychologist
Carl Gustav Jung , founder of analytical psychology (1875 –1961)
Ian Stevenson , Professor of Psychiatry, University of Virginia and leading investigator of reported cases of reincarnation

Groups
These groups started by theosophists or had as their most active members theosophists in their early days.
Co-freemasonry (See Annie Besant)
Amnesty International (source: theosophical grapevine)
Buddhist Society in England (was the Buddhist lodge of the Theosophical Society), was founded by the most famous and influential of Western Buddhists, Christmas Humphreys (see Christmas Humphreys), who was a member of the Theosophical Society early in his life and who wrote appreciatively about H.P. Blavatsky to the end of his life.
Sufi movement started by Hazrat Inayat Khan

[phildee3]

The source of freemasonry is the Theosophical Society.

Interesting. Please elaborate and provide a source for this.

Impossible because it's not true.
Freemasonry is way older!

I can't believe that so many of you are still not hip to the fallacy:
Many evil, NWO elitists are freemasons; therefore freemasonry is evil.

Not so, and neither is theosophy.

Theosophy is the study of the roots of the esoteric sciences, some of which lie behind original freemasonry. Hermeticism is another, somewhat related, and is the origin of the caduceus.
The snake eating it's own tail is the orobudos and is unrelated. It has it's origins in western mysticism, not eastern. You'll find it in La Tene (Celtic) art and cosmology.

[kweli]

A serpent cult could be related to the NHS. I have been doing a lot of research about this concept of the single and double snake wrapped around poles.

Anyhow this relates to other secret societies and that is including the freemasons. The source of freemasonry is the Theosophical Society. I think in 1912 the BMA bought the TS headoffice in Russell Square right next door to the Tavistock Institute.

I also have read that if you train as a Doctor - you are then linked to your training institution via a lodge. I will try and find that link. Doctors are freemasons by default....

The St Johns Ambulance is directly linked to the Knights Templar and then to the Order of Malta

You discuss chipping - its the only way to get chipped - visit a doctor or dentist from what I read

I've recently read 'The Brotherhood - The secret World of the Freemasons' by Stephen Knight.

Here's a piece about the medical profession and Freemasonary:

Hospital Lodges prove useful meeting places for medical staff and administrators. Most main hospitals, including all the London teaching hospitals, have their own Lodges... Many of the most senior members of the profession are Freemasons, especially those actively involved with the Royal College of Physicians and the Royal College of Surgeons.

There's much more but I can't be arsed typing it out. There's a whole section about Freemasonary and the Police force and a chapter about Birmingham City Police and the corruption there. :eek: Not so sure about this author though, (Stephen Knight) some of his sources are a bit shadowy.

[paganus]

I've recently read 'The Brotherhood - The secret World of the Freemasons' by Stephen Knight.

Here's a piece about the medical profession and Freemasonary:

Hospital Lodges prove useful meeting places for medical staff and administrators. Most main hospitals, including all the London teaching hospitals, have their own Lodges... Many of the most senior members of the profession are Freemasons, especially those actively involved with the Royal College of Physicians and the Royal College of Surgeons.

There's much more but I can't be arsed typing it out. There's a whole section about Freemasonary and the Police force and a chapter about Birmingham City Police and the corruption there. :eek: Not so sure about this author though, (Stephen Knight) some of his sources are a bit shadowy.stephen knight was told in several anonymous letters,that he would be killed for writing that book.he died of a brain tumor soon afterwards.im reading the sequel 'inside the brotherhood' by martin short.

[chicken]

I have to point out a few things Plato was the father of Theosophy - why because I have read about its roots.

I will explain:

The Theosophical Society profess to be a brotherhood of all faiths. They acknowledge all religious, philosophical, and scientific and environmental groups for being contributing agents to the world’s goodness and progress. However, they require loyal members to learn and progress beyond their limited and earthly primitive knowledge and reasoning which they say is accomplished only after receiving extensive Theosophical enlightenment and multiple reincarnated lives of training and practice.

Theosophical Society - Origin of Theosophy
As innocent as they make it sound, the Theosophist’s ulterior motive is to mimic eastern religion in origin and theology, Gnostic in thought, and Christian only in key terminology.

Theosophy is imaginatively complex with unsubstantiated and improvable theory causing a never ending dependence upon followers to cling to a select group of devout TS teachers, but to the point of intellectual mind control and spiritual bondage.

Their foundational beliefs are also based upon a close similarity of a 2000-year-old heresy called Gnosticism of which TS members are great admires. It is important to remember that the third century Gnostics were false teachers and Christ’s apostle fought them continually to keep them from damaging and separating the Church. The biblical book of 1 John and Paul’s letter to the Colossians extents a crucial warning to avoid such teaching.


Theosophy teaches the unity of all life, the fundamental order of the universe, and the purposefulness of existence. It teaches that human beings have an unlimited potential within themselves, that we have the ability to realize our potential, and that the way to that realization is available to all of us. The basic ideas of Theosophy can be summarized in several ways, one of which is called “The Three Truths of the White Lotus”:

The human soul is immortal, and its future is the future of a thing whose growth and splendor has no limit.

The principle which gives life dwells in us and around us, is undying and eternally beneficent, is not heard or seen or smelt, but is perceived by the one who desires perception.

We are each our own absolute lawgiver, the dispenser of glory or gloom to ourselves, the decreer of our life, our reward, our punishment

Theosophy is about "life" and these guys who push this cult as it is known in current circles - really do push it. It is an early life coaching group, obviously operating now and they enjoy hypothesising in an abstract way, now as well as in the past - they are the prime exponents of metaphysical philosophy.

Right through its history - many books have been written and can still be accessed and read. Socrates thought about this concept of relativism and truth and pondered on things like right and wrong and opposite notions that related to the basics of life. He didn't seem to committ anything to parchment though.

Plato, a philosopher, thinker and teacher started to think about the role of the Greek Gods, who were by nature jealous and restrictive and were in persuit and purpose of wisdom for its own sake, which was infact the complete opposite. Plato was a prolific writer and whenever he could he sat and put down his ideas about God and Truth. Theos is Greek for God and Sophia is Greek for wisdom and as thought about both of these things he became the father of theosophy.

Missing a lot out in the middle E Tolle is the pusher of pure Theosophy. All he has done is revisit what was written down as it was complex to unravel. Most of it was beyond the averages human comprehension. So its about God and the soul of man and how to be detached.... that is simplistic that

Remember Theosophy is not about TRUTH its about hidden secrets aka gnosticism. E Tolles books are not the TRUTH, as most of the population would like it - its reversed, the books are not what they seem. Look at the history of its begining - this is central to its practice.

By the way - I have Namaste - the publisher of E Tolle in my town and he is a practising CO$ so I am told by others close to him. I don't know one way or another?

Theosophy is a cult - google it.

[kweli]

stephen knight was told in several anonymous letters,that he would be killed for writing that book.he died of a brain tumor soon afterwards.im reading the sequel 'inside the brotherhood' by martin short.

Man, that's not good. I didn't know that (obviously).

Has anyone read his first book? - Jack the Ripper: The Final Solution. I Haven't read it yet, but he links the Whitechapel murders to Freemasonary.

[chicken]

Impossible because it's not true. Freemasonry is way older!

So earlier than Plato - umm I don't think so ;). This is fact.... its on paper and precise. Theosophy was well into itself by then with many books written. E Tolle bases himself on Meister Eckhart (1530+)

Freemasonry is a fraternal organisation that arose from obscure origins (theorised to be anywhere from the time of the building of King Solomon's Temple to the mid-1600s)

this is a theory - not exact dates

[chicken]

I've recently read 'The Brotherhood - The secret World of the Freemasons' by Stephen Knight.

Actually most authors of freemasonry have met an early demise. Shame he did not do his research on life expectancy as a result of writing a book on freemasonry

these guys work in the nhs - they know how to kill - a muscle relaxant is given to you just before you go into theatre - just a bit too much will stop your heart working - no evidence will be left behind. The heart is a giant pump - large muscle.

Anything can be used for good and evil.

Look up www.murderingmasons.co.uk. Let me know what you think

Stan Cumans - google him......

[titan]

It makes me think it's just another freemasonry offshoot. Gets the medical establishment in it's grip maybe.

So far I think the serpent is the olde babylonian reptilian bloodline.

Isn't the twist representative of the DNA double helix?

And the snake around the single pole is the origin of the dollar sign?

[titan]

Actually most authors of freemasonry have met an early demise. Shame he did not do his research on life expectancy as a result of writing a book on freemasonry

these guys work in the nhs - they know how to kill - a muscle relaxant is given to you just before you go into theatre - just a bit too much will stop your heart working - no evidence will be left behind. The heart is a giant pump - large muscle.

Anything can be used for good and evil.

Look up www.murderingmasons.co.uk. Let me know what you think

Stan Cumans - google him......


mabye that's what happened to robin cook?

[chicken]

There's a whole section about Freemasonary and the Police force and a chapter about Birmingham City Police and the corruption there.

There are 11 police freemasons lodges in the UK. I am five miles from one.

Dorset is known as one of the most corrupt police forces in the UK. Birmingham is second. Interestingly, they both have CO$ in their areas. AND wasn't CO$ linked to the Metropolition Police a few years back, when the churches/cult new london church was opened.

Interesting links

[chicken]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/free17.htm

Go here - links between freemasonry and theosophy

[phildee3]

I have to point out a few things Plato was the father of Theosophy - why because I have read about its roots.



Mme. Blavatsky was the founder of theosophy.

[chicken]

Quote:
I have to point out a few things Plato was the father of Theosophy - why because I have read about its roots...........
Mme. Blavatsky was the founder of theosophy.

I knooooow!!!!!!! :D note I said roots - its beginnings - its basis - its ideas. Blavatsky just nicked em and reshaped it. Adding electricity, channeling, Kundalini Awakening publications etc etc.......

yes but theosophy had to come from somewhere didn't it. It had a past as I pointed it out. Theosophy is fraudulant as the masters were made up by her. She sent herself notes from the masters making out they came from them......

I can point out the other philosophers it passed before Madam Blavatsky shaped it into something more formal. Brahmanism and Bhuddism is central to its thinking also. Weird mix as I said....

Chicken

[chicken]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/57463.stm - Freemasonry corruption...?

http://www.charlton.demon.co.uk/masonic/report.html - report about freemasonry in the police and the judiciary

[chicken]

I found this....

Blavatsky soon had a great host of admirers. The Theosophical Society had freemasons Henry Steel Olcott, George H. Felt appointed president and vice-president respectfully. Among the early members were high ranking masons Charles Sothern and Albert Pike.

In 1907 Annie Besant became president of the Theosophical Society. The beginnings of the modern New Age Movement began with search for their "own" messiah, as it were. Along with 33rd degree mason C.W. Leadbeater, Annie Besant promoted a young adept as the messiah: Jiddu Krishnamurti.

Alice Bailey and husband Foster (32° degree mason) continued to interlock the workings of Theosophy with the aims of Freemasonry. Bailey, as founder of Lucis (Lucifer) Trust, worked laboriously to fulfill the plan toward a New World Religion, which her master Djwhal Khul had said was the ultimate aim of Freemasonry. The Hierarchy had blessed both their beginnings, her master said.

O.T.O.: Ordo Templi Orientis
The O.T.O. founded at the beginning of the 20th century represents a reunification attempt to incorporate the traditions of the Freemasonic, Rosicrucian and Illuminist movements of the 18th and 19th centuries, the crusading Knights Templars of the middle ages and early Christian Gnosticism and the Pagan Mystery Schools.

[titan]

mabye that's what happened to robin cook?


Em, no duh .........


interesting links, thanks

[chicken]

Anyway back to MM and the Masons. I still think the NHS has lots to answer for - and I am not talking conventional therapy here....

She may have been pinched for experimentation - like a MKULTRA kid was used in the 50's?

Its an idea - probably a daft one

chicken

[titan]

Well we agree on who took her anyway...mabye lol

Myself, I think it's one big fat PSYOP with the er 'conception' of the plan being MM's conception method,birth and her logo/eye defect. Gerry being a mason, this has somehow passed up the higher corridors of secret societies.

Maddie is an ideal commodity to implement 'child surveillance', she's corporate due to her 'advertising' so she's a good investment, she's a miracle too, Catholicism will be reported as on the up because of Maddy and her second coming.


These guys though, as clever as they are, they have a type of OCD with their numbers and their symbols that's easy to spot once you know what they're up to. They also arrogantly underestimate the sheeple.

It will be their undoing and downfall imo.

It's covert because they are scared of us.

[armoured_amazon]

Anyway back to MM and the Masons. I still think the NHS has lots to answer for - and I am not talking conventional therapy here....

She may have been pinched for experimentation - like a MKULTRA kid was used in the 50's?

Its an idea - probably a daft one

chicken

There are no daft ideas. :)

[phildee3]

I knooooow!!!!!!! :D note I said roots - its beginnings - its basis - its ideas.


I did note this.




theosophy had to come from somewhere didn't it.


Everything comes from somewhere.
Theosophy comes from many roots, as you say.




I can point out the other philosophers it passed before Madam Blavatsky shaped it into something more formal. Brahmanism and Bhuddism is central to its thinking also.


So why not say that Buddah is "the father of theosophy" then?

I wouldn't say that Buddhism is "central" because, as you say, theosophy combines many philosophies.
I would say that it is more central than Platonism, though.

Even more "central" is Hermes and Rozencreutz.




Theosophy is fraudulant as the masters were made up by her. She sent herself notes from the masters making out they came from them......


How can you be so sure that they didn't come from them through her hand?

You can't.




Weird mix as I said....


Weird? That's just your opinion.
A complex mix, certainly, but that's what's needed today. imo.
All religious philosophies have a common basis (ie. man's search for meaning/truth). Including them all in one body of work is a good way to stop 'em fighting with each other and bring in an epoch of peace.
And not through a one world government or religion! That's not what theosophy is about. It's about the inclusion of other religions by recognising the validity of each one of them.
We can have "peace between nations" (ie. cultures) without dissolving them into some melting pot.
One who has only superficiallly investigated theosophy might be forgiven for thinking that this was Blavatsky's intent, but a deeper study of it reveals an essential, mutual respect between the various traditions.

[chicken]

As I said.... I know me stuff as you point out - having read a broad range of sites, books info etc and talked to some theospholists. A few members just would not discuss the basis of it. One person just would not engage in a discussion. I phoned them three times - I got as far as I would like to ask a few questions about the TS and the phone was hung up. I tried this over a couple of weeks and same response? Interesting response...?

The Theosophical Society profess to be a brotherhood of all faiths. They acknowledge all religious, philosophical, and scientific and environmental groups for being contributing agents to the world’s goodness and progress. However, they require loyal members to learn and progress beyond their limited and earthly primitive knowledge and reasoning which they say is accomplished only after receiving extensive Theosophical enlightenment and multiple reincarnated lives of training and practice.


As innocent as they make it sound, the Theosophist’s ulterior motive is to mimic eastern religion in origin and theology, Gnostic in thought, and Christian only in key terminology.

Theosophy is imaginatively complex with unsubstantiated and improvable theory causing a never ending dependence upon followers to cling to a select group of devout TS teachers, but to the point of intellectual mind control and spiritual bondage.

Their foundational beliefs are also based upon a close similarity of a 2000-year-old heresy called Gnosticism of which TS members are great admires. It is important to remember that the third century Gnostics were false teachers and Christ’s apostle fought them continually to keep them from damaging and separating the Church. The biblical book of 1 John and Paul’s letter to the Colossians extents a crucial warning to avoid such teaching.

mimicry - that is deception, mindcontrol and the rest.... Another cult basically which is part of the Occult bag

Plato is the father of philosophy, bhuddism is the current theme that underlies it at present. Its a bit like shifting sands this cult.

As I said its a form of life coaching. Metaphysical hypothesising about life being greener on the other side. If we get the poncy language down - ie a bit or reductionism.

This is what we are looking at:

Most people have these things in their lives, food, shelter, food and sex. Then people decided they would like a bit more then they were getting in their life. They thought about what they would like and then most returned to what they were doing. There were a few who thought about the grass being greener on the other side. As a result some moved and some were moved because they were run out of town. Those people who survived to talk, to write and even teach are now considered the prime exponents of metaphysical philosophy.

E Tolle is the current philosopher central to theosopholists. How do I know? I asked this question a few times and EVERY answer was yes! he is. He is a reworking of Meister Eckhardt. What happened before E Tolle became a millionaire many times over? Do you know his history? and are you aware of the incomprehensible hypothesising that was undertaken by all book writers of this cult

Look up Phillipus Aurelous Theophrastus Bombastus von Hahanhiem ( a rosecrucian ) Jacob Boehne ( man with visions - wrote Aurore )

Both past main men of the complex hypothesising undertaken by Theosopholists

[phildee3]

And the snake around the single pole is the origin of the dollar sign?



If the caduceus is the origin of the dollar sign (and that's a big if),
then one of the two snakes has been omitted - creating an imbalace.

The essence of the complete symbol is balance and harmony; - health.

[chicken]

Many councellors use this method of counselling buried in their practice

Theophostic Counselling A method of (supposedly) Christian counselling developed by Dr Ed Smith of Kentucky, USA. From the Greek theo "God" and phos "light or illumination." Used in the Beyond Tolerable Recovery training course. The emphasis is on genuine recovery rather than just "tolerable" recovery, which might be gradual, involve relapses, etc, and is based on the idea that many of our problems are (supposedly) caused by lie-based thinking, that episodes in our past that have led to present problems - not unlike the engrams of Scientology. (For example being told "you're fat" as a young child leading to bulimia much later in life. As soon as the person recalls the possibly deeply repressed memory of being told the lie and recognises they were not fat and they don't need to believe that lie any more, they can allegedly be instantly freed from bulimia).

Theophostic Counselling is far from controversy-free - for example, there are claims that when misused the Theophostic techiques can lead to recovered memory syndrome and other serious problems. The techniques themselves appear very easy to misuse and this seems to have been recognised by Ed Smith, who significantly revised his course material to specifically try to avoid some of the biggest problem areas, such as guided imagery and directed visualisation. Sadly, this rewrite does not prevent practitioners from ignoring Dr Smith's directions and continuing to misuse the techniques, and has not addressed theological problems inherent in the teachings.

Also, the Theophostic Counselling techniques do not appear to be biblically sound. For example, looking at things at a simple level, Jesus told us to pray to the Father (not to himself, Jesus), and also that the Holy Spirit would be our Counsellor (again, not himself, Jesus). The Lying Spirits web site raises the question Where does scripture say the work of the Holy Spirit is to produce, on demand, an encounter with a spirit Jesus for the purpose of illuminating past memories? Meanwhile, Anton Hein of Apologetics Index calls it Inner Healing repackaged: Not surprisingly, inner healing is a New Age concept used in one way or another in many different New Age and Eastern religions.

Theophostic Counselling is rated dangerous as it is a cult based practise for its non-biblical, extra-biblical, and strongly New Age teachings. Theophostic theology leads to a distortion of the Christian doctrine of the Trinity.

Theosophy holds the motto "There is no religion higher than truth" but doesn't teach the truth. Watchman Fellowship lists Theosophy as teaching "pantheism, reincarnation, striving for Christ-consciousness, and occult and paranormal phenomena."

[chicken]

Quite a few people, apparently including marketing consultants for the US military, think of the caudeceus as the symbol of medicine. The caudeceus is the staff with two serpents wrapped around it, which now adorns most medical alert bracelets worldwide and covers the doors of many a medical establishment.

The caudeceus is actually the staff of Hermes: it is a symbol of commerce at best, and at worst, the sign of petty theives and trickery, whose dishonesty and clever deceipt Hermes is considered to inspire.

Asklepios, the son of Apollo (god of light and enthusiasm,) is the mortal-turned-diety to whom Asklepian temples were consecrated and where medical "divination" was originally performed. Hippocrates, the father of Western medicine and author of the original Hippocratic Oath, was raised in an Asklepian temple as the son of an Asklepian priest. His observation of common symptoms led him to describe "syndromes" (or "common roads", in greek) through which a priest could decide whether a sick individual was headed for health or for death.

THIS IS THE REAL MESSAGE......

[phildee3]

As I said.... I know me stuff as you point out - having read a broad range of sites, books info etc and talked to some theospholists. A few members just would not discuss the basis of it. One person just would not engage in a discussion. I phoned them three times - I got as far as I would like to ask a few questions about the TS and the phone was hung up. I tried this over a couple of weeks and same response? Interesting response...?



Quite a reasonable response, when your inquiry is only in order to "debunk" them.
If your inquiry was a genuine one you would be welcomed.
I, too, am hanging up on this one.
It is pointless discussing this with you. Your mind is made up.

Anyone else interested in the TS (that's Theosophical Society), with an open and inquiring mind, give them a ring or stop into one of their centres/bookshops.
Make up your own minds, folks, and don't let this dark, paranoid, fantasy idea of a "cult" have you dismiss theosophy out of hand.

Check it out, unless you're "chicken."

[kweli]

Actually most authors of freemasonry have met an early demise. Shame he did not do his research on life expectancy as a result of writing a book on freemasonry

these guys work in the nhs - they know how to kill - a muscle relaxant is given to you just before you go into theatre - just a bit too much will stop your heart working - no evidence will be left behind. The heart is a giant pump - large muscle.

Anything can be used for good and evil.

Look up www.murderingmasons.co.uk. Let me know what you think

Stan Cumans - google him......

Cheers chicken, I will indeed check the link out and get back to you. :)

[chicken]

Quite a reasonable response, when your inquiry is only in order to "debunk" them. If your inquiry was a genuine one you would be welcomed.
I, too, am hanging up on this one.


Absolutely not - I wanted to ask them genuine questions. This one person was very concerned at being asked this - may I take the time if I may to ask you some simple questions regarding the ideas behind theosophical thought. I WAS NOT looking at this question of debunking as you put it....

you are backing out because you know that I am right. Your arguements are weak and have little basis to go on.

Have I an open mind - yes - still have. I am waiting for someone to show me the truth of the so called truth of this group.

chicken

[paganus]

Quite a few people, apparently including marketing consultants for the US military, think of the caudeceus as the symbol of medicine. The caudeceus is the staff with two serpents wrapped around it, which now adorns most medical alert bracelets worldwide and covers the doors of many a medical establishment.

The caudeceus is actually the staff of Hermes: it is a symbol of commerce at best, and at worst, the sign of petty theives and trickery, whose dishonesty and clever deceipt Hermes is considered to inspire.

Asklepios, the son of Apollo (god of light and enthusiasm,) is the mortal-turned-diety to whom Asklepian temples were consecrated and where medical "divination" was originally performed. Hippocrates, the father of Western medicine and author of the original Hippocratic Oath, was raised in an Asklepian temple as the son of an Asklepian priest. His observation of common symptoms led him to describe "syndromes" (or "common roads", in greek) through which a priest could decide whether a sick individual was headed for health or for death.

THIS IS THE REAL MESSAGE......Hermes is the God of healing and communication.the messenger of the Gods.Apollo is a Sun God.Roman equivilant of Hermes is Mercury,not Apollo.

[titan]

I found this recently take a look at this. I thoght this was very intersesting.

Whar do you think?

http://www.the3arguidos.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4467

[carlperkins]

What happened to prophe c? Are you still there? Your post was amazing. Any further progess?

[carlperkins]

I saw a TV show the other night, 2 hours long about the case leading up to "Amber Alert" systems in th EU and then again on news at ten. The show started with a comment about a theory involving the Secret Sevices, the British Government and how Madeleine was in Belgium etc., but was not followed up. The show also included footage of entering Rothley by car and you could clearly see a Templar logo on the sign "Rothley", I nearly fell off my sofa. Anyone else see that?

[phildee3]

may I take the time if I may to ask you some simple questions regarding the ideas behind theosophical thought. I WAS NOT looking at this question of debunking as you put it....

Have I an open mind - yes - still have. I am waiting for someone to show me the truth of the so called truth of this group.



Why wait?
Why not read up on Theosophy?
There is alot of literature available.
Why not get it from "the horses mouth" instead of second hand?
Forget about "the group."
They only represent thosophical thought.
By reading the thosophical texts you can get it first hand.

[illuminotti]

I saw a TV show the other night, 2 hours long about the case leading up to "Amber Alert" systems in th EU and then again on news at ten. The show started with a comment about a theory involving the Secret Sevices, the British Government and how Madeleine was in Belgium etc., but was not followed up. The show also included footage of entering Rothley by car and you could clearly see a Templar logo on the sign "Rothley", I nearly fell off my sofa. Anyone else see that?


it's freely available on the net, i will try and find it, someone on the pro maddie boards must still have it, quite an interesting and long read!!

[intruder]

is it a mistake to think that accidents are coincidental?

[illuminotti]

this is the response from michael shrimpton, sorry i have no link, most of the madeleine forums info has been deleted, i got this of a bit i saved, still digging for the actual letter though!!


I can confirm that the document was written by Michael Shrimton. Here is his statement confirming that he is the author of a similiar document, albeit not the garbled version on the net.


"A purported Intelligence Assessment on the Kidnap of Madeleine McCann, attributed to me, was placed on the Daily Mirror website without my knowledge or consent, nor that of Gerrad Group International, of Massachusetts USA, on whose Advisory Board I sit. So far as I can tell the Assessment was obtained unlawfully, either by theft, cybercrime or unlawful interception of communications, although I make no suggestion that the Daily Mirror was aware of that.

No attempt was made by whoever posted it, or by the Daily Mirror, to seek my consent or that of Gerard Group, to whom any such request would have been referred. It is right to say that in June I was contacted at home by a Daily Mirror journalist, acting on a tip-off, which appeared to me to have come from a member of the Cabinet or some one close to the Cabinet Office. This journalist was aware that a restricted intelligence assessment on the McCann kidnap had been prepared, he asked me for a copy and was politely refused.

It is right that after intelligence on Madeleine McCann's then whereabouts was received in England, Gerard Group were asked, informally, to prepare an Intelligence Assessment. This request was made by a retired, senior, intelligence officer who had formerly sat on the Joint Intelligence Committee, the senior co-ordinating body for British Intelligence. This followed the failure by the then Prime Minister to convene COBRA or refer the matter to JIC. The UK investigation into the kidnap has not been intelligence led and has been left throughout in the hands of a provincial police force. There are grounds for supposing that critical intelligence on the kidnap, including IMINT (Imagery Intelligence) has been withheld from that force and further grounds for supposing that this intelligence failure has compromised the search for Madeleine McCann.

The Intelligence Assessment was submitted on a non-recourse basis, in the strictest confidence, at Director level, to British and American intelligence agencies, to senior military officers in a position to task military assets for a rescue effort and to senior members of the British Government. It was also supplied to the White House and the Pentagon. It was prepared as a matter of extreme urgency at a time when there was a recovery window and human life was at stake. That window has now closed and was closed before any part of the Assessment was released into the public domain.

Possibly reflecting the clandestine or unlawful means by which it was acquired the version which has appeared on the Internet is not I say again not in the form in which it was submitted, indeed it has been altered significantly. Authentication codes within the original Assessment have been deleted and the garbled copy in the public domain is not I say again not an authentic copy.

I am dismayed that even part of a highly confidential document such as this should be leaked in this way, however the original Assessment was santised to protect sources against the possibility of a hostile intelligence agency acquiring it and no source has been compromised. The Assessment was also designed to be read in conjunction with COMINT and IMINT, including satellite imagery, and is of limited value without the supporting intelligence, none of which appears to have been leaked.

Thankfully no military operations were compromised by this leak. For reasons which are unclear no British operation was mounted to rescue Madeleine, although that is not repeat not a criticism of the Chief of Defence Staff, who constitutionally could not act without a request from the civil power, whcih never came. Limited naval operations to interdict associated narcotics traffickers concluded some weeks before the leak and police action to arrest collateral child traffickers involved in bringing kindapped children from southern Brazil to the Iberian Pensinsular was not affected, to my knowledge. Those actions did not involve the UK.

I will not depart this distressing subject without emphasising that

(1) I have seen no evidence to sugegst that either of Madeleine's parents or for that matter any British Citizen was involved

(2) the kidnappers appear to have been armed with silenced weapons and

(3) any suggestion that the child's parents or an unarmed babysitter could have prevented the kidnap is misconceived.

It is right that the assistance of the United States military and intelligence communities in the seach for Madeleine McCann should be acknowledged. They behaved as an ally should. They cannot and will not claim credit, indeed I would expect denials for reasons of state, but I am aware that good people have risked their lives in this search and powerful reconnaissance assets, including satellites, were tasked. I am also aware that a courageous American intelligence officer, who cannot be named, who was involved in the search, was subsequently murdered, but I am unclear as to whether this was connected to the McCann case. S/he will no doubt be honoured within the intelligence community in their usual, quiet, way.

I trust and hope that Madeleine McCann will soon be restored to the loving arms of her family"[/quote]''


Best

[illuminotti]

I tend to think it sounds crazy, but after been on here, i don't know what to think.....sorry for no link, as michael shrimpton says it just appeared on the net, he did say he wrote it on the request of someone, but i cant find that bit......
anyway, thats what gerry was talking about at the beginning of the programme, and after knowing evrything thats circulating around the net, forged photos and things, that 2hr show was a response to bloggers and forums, try to get them on there side!!

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Here it is in full!!

RESTRICTED DISCLOSURE MAY HARM THE NATIONAL SECURITY INTEREST OF THE UNITED KINGDOM OR HER ALLIES AND INTERFERE WITH ONGOING INTELLIGENCE AND/OR MILITARY OPERATIONS COPY NUMBER ___ THE ABDUCTION OF MISTRESS MADELEINE McCANN AGED 3 FROM THE MARK WARNER ORGANISATION OCEAN CLUB HOLIDAY COMPLEX PRAIA DA LUZ, REPUBLIC OF PORTUGAL THURSDAY 3RD MAY 2007 INFORMAL INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT PREPARED AT THE REQUEST OF A FORMER MEMBER OF THE JOINT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE MICHAEL SHRIMPTON, LLB (Hons) Esq., of Gray’s Inn, Barrister, National Security Lawyer, Member Advisory Board, Gerard Group International, Adjunct Professor of Intelligence Studies, American Military University.

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Page 5 DISCLAIMER
6 NOTE ON SECURITY
7 NOTE ON SOURCES
8 AUTHOR’S INVOLVEMENT
10 LISBON AND BRUSSELS PAEDOPHILE RINGS
10 DVD 11
RUN-UP TO THE KIDNAP
13 THE KIDNAP
16 EXFILTRATION
20 RV NAOMI CORLETT
23 JARIC/GCHQ
25 MOROCCO
27
LIEGE
28 SSKs
31 ROBERT MURAT
31 CONCLUSION AND RECOMMENDATIONS
32 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

(1) The UK knew for 14 days the location of Madeleine McCann to a high degree of confidence and nothing was done to effect a rescue;
(2) The failure to refer the matter to JIC or convene COBRA contributed to the poor co-ordination of intelligence;
(3) Madeleine McCann was kidnapped by a paedophile ring linked to the covert German DVD intelligence agency;
(4) The Portuguese Authorities at a senior level have frustrated the Portuguese police investigation, which has degenerated into a farce;
(5) Madeleine was taken out by sea, the original destination was adjacent to the port of Antwerp, she was held for 14 days on a specially equipped vessel in Moroccan territorial waters without the consent of Morocco and she is probably now on Belgian territory;
(6) Madeleine is alive but in mortal danger, COBRA and JIC should be brought in without delay and every available intelligence resource of the United Kingdom should be committed to finding and saving her;
(7) The involvement of Portuguese, Belgian and German intelligence indicates that the political situation in Europe will deteriorate if this crisis is not resolved quickly; ( The murder of Madeleine McCann, effectively at the instigation of the German State would lead to a major Anglo-European crisis and rightly so.

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No liability for the contents attaches to any recipient. It has been prepared under conditions of tight security by civilian standards and no part of it has been circulated in draft beforehand to any of them.
The views expressed herein are solely those of the author. Individuals not named publicly as suspects have been identified by letters only.
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The author and Gerard Group have been assisted considerably by professionals within and without the intelligence community who have given freely of their time and expertise, compartmentalised and kept off phone lines, even encrypted lines, wherever possible. Deniable assistance has also been given by Allied intelligence agencies, but for security and deniability reasons no agency saw this document in draft prior to its limited, non-electronic circulation. NOTE ON SECURITY

2. Coms security on the McCann case has been appalling. Most aspects of it were blown weeks ago down open phone lines, whilst Leicestershire Police have made a practice of passing intelligence to the Portuguese police inquiry, despite requests not to do so. This inquiry, a fair summary of the 15 basic defects in which was summarised in the Daily Telegraph on 1st June (p 9), is controlled not by the Portuguese Judicial Police Faro Region, as alleged in the media, but by the DCCB, Direccao Central de Combate ao Banditismo, part of the Judicial Police, in Lisbon. The DCCB in turn has officers reporting to the Servico de Informacoes de Seguranca, the Security Intelligence Service.
The Seguranca in turn is heavily penetrated by a black agency in Lisbon which dates back to the Salazar fascist dictatorship and was not dismantled in 1974, ie although the political structures of the Portuguese Republic are democratic in form, and the overt intelligence services give the semblance of accountability to those structures, the intelligence structures of the Portuguese State are fundamentally unaltered from the fascist era.

3. Since the paedophile ring operating in Lisbon is controlled by this covert agency, which appears to be blackmailing senior members of the Portuguese Government, it follows that all intelligence passed to Portugal from Leicester has most probably been blown, including the probable location of Madeleine on board the RV Naomi Corlett. Combined with the activities of the COMINT operation in Dachau there has been virtually no security on this operation since it began. Since intelligence on Madeleine’s whereabouts has sometimes taken days to reach England the author makes no apology for having acted throughout as though time were of the essence. It is.
A new low point was reached on Sunday 3rd June, when Madeleine’s probable location in Morocco and the involvement of GCHQ was splashed across the People (for the benefit of US readers this is a low-rent Sunday tabloid), citing sources ‘close to the investigation,’ although whether their sources are British or Portuguese is unclear. The author has been liaising, unofficially, with the DA-Notice Committee, tipping them off if it appeared a British newspaper was likely to mention exfiltration by sea.

NOTE ON SOURCES 4. These have not been identified, partly to protect them (Leicestershire Police, whose inquiry with respect has not been intelligence-led, have applied pressure to force their identification, but that has been resisted) and partly because some are acting through cut-outs. It has been apparent to the author for some time that we have been receiving a stream of high-grade intelligence out of Portugal, and that one or more of these sources is in the Seguranca, or the Servico de Informacoes Estrategicas de Defesa e Militares (Strategic Defence and Military Intelligence Service, SIEDM). Since representing General Pinochet Ugarte in Washington in 1999/2000 the author has been tapped into the European Royal House network (ie he has chateaux as well as home numbers) and there would be nothing particularly surprising in his receiving intelligence on a matter affecting the British interest from a well-placed aristocratic source in Europe. It would not be the first time.

5. The difficult relationship between the covert GO2 (General Operations 2) in London and the DVD, and the penetration of the Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) by GO2, would be understood by the better-informed members of the Portuguese Royal House (the House of Braganza), ie those with the strongest connections to the Seguranca and the SIEDM. The alliance with Portugal, which goes back to 1376, is still in force, and the present Duke, Duarte II, is a collateral descendant of King Edward III, via John of Gaunt and his accomplished daughter Philippa. The brutal assassinations by the Imperial German Secret Service of King Carlos 1 and his son and heir, Luis Filipe, 23rd Duke of Braganza, on 1st February 1908, would hardly endear a DVD-backed paedophile operation directed against a British child to the House of Braganza. The heir apparent, His Highness Alfonso, Prince of Beira, is aged just 11, and his views on the organised kidnap of young children for sexual abuse may well be imagined.

6. In addition we appear to be receiving high-grade HUMINT, which is being confirmed in part by satellite observation. Of course the author does not have a collection of plastic rocks and is not set up to control a HUMINT source, but he is an intelligence specialist, not an intelligence officer, and the HUMINT is coming securely via multiple cut-outs, ie from the agency concerned, rather than from the source. THE AUTHOR’S INVOLVEMENT 7. Purely unofficially the author has been involved since Sunday 6th May, when he quietly asked the National Security Agency at Fort Meade whether anything was coming up on their radar. It was clear by then that the Portuguese police inquiry was compromised, that the 12-hour delay in notifying border guards implied that some one had been allowed to get across the frontier, that Madeleine was no longer in Portugal, that she had probably been taken out by air or sea, that the British police inquiry was stalled and that the intelligence co-ordination function normally performed by JIC was not being done.

He has liaised with the police inquiry (spending a day with the inquiry team at Leicester on Thursday 24th May), various intelligence contacts, and inter alia an aide to the PM in waiting, the White House, the Pentagon, EUCOM, US National Security Council, and relevant friendly governments. THE LISBON & BRUSSELS PAEDOPHILE RINGS 8. The paedophile scandal in Lisbon barely scratched the surface. There are a number of high-ranking paedophiles in Lisbon, and abductions of young children in Portugal, followed by their eventual murder after unspeakable horrors, is sadly a feature of Portuguese political life, ditto Belgium, where at least two rings, one tied closely to the European Commission, continue to operate. Prosecutions and resignations in both capitals were largely a public relations exercise. From the national security standpoint paedophile politicians and senior officials are a menace - they are invariably weak, hopelessly compromised and vulnerable to blackmail by the covert intelligence agencies, all reporting to the German DVD, which control the rings. It is rare for a missing children’s case to be prosecuted diligently in either country - if one of the rings is involved political interference, as in this case, becomes almost inevitable.

THE DEUTSCHES VERTEIDIGUNGS DIENST (DVD) 9. This agency could be the topic of a book rather than a paper, which might then cause a number of post-war history books to be re-written. The DVD was set up in 1943 after Germany’s defeat in the Battle of the Kursk Salient, the failure of the U-Boat campaign to sever the vital transatlantic link and the collapse of covert negotiations, via the Dulles brothers, to make a separate peace with the United States. GeneralLeutnant Erwin von Lahousen, one of Canaris’s Section Chiefs, who dropped off our intelligence radar in the autumn of 1943, was the first operational director. The DVD was Germany’s insurance against defeat.
Admiral Wilhelm Canaris, who faked his own death after a deal with SS Reichsfuhrer Himmler, whereby the Admiral offered to use his Western contacts to secure favourable treatment for Himmler in exchange for his life (the Admiral reneged and Himmler’s cyanide pill was politely returned to him by a British military intelligence officer, who in turn reported to a very quiet section of military intelligence, MI18, which was eventually wound up, officially at any rate) ensured that critical Abwehr files and control of the German high-level overseas networks were transferred to Dachau, DVD HQ, from the autumn of 1943.
Those networks were not rolled up after 1945 and in each country occupied by Germany a stay-behind intelligence organisation was set up, as well as in Madrid and Lisbon. The DVD specialises in talent-spotting future leaders (they have long had recruiters at Oxford and Cambridge, eg, taking over the Abwehr’s efficient operations in each town, which recruited a number of major political leaders) and in exploiting the weaknesses of some politicians. It has made effective use of paedophile rings, but aside from the ethical and legal objections to this entirely criminal and amoral policy, which entails the murder, very often in snuff movies, of the desperately unfortunate children seized by the rings, it is dangerous, because of the wash-back on Germany should it be exposed.

10. Since Germany has used covert control of international organisations to exercise influence since German Intelligence, which was not broken up in 1918, got its men Jean Monnet and Arthur Salter into the League of Nations HQ in 1919 (the real reason the US Senate rejected the Versailles Treaty, ie key Republican Senators with intelligence connections were tipped off)(Kurt Waldheim was not selected as UN Secretary-General in ignorance of his wartime role as an intelligence officer working for the Abwehr inside the SD, but because of it), the wash-back following exposure would affect not only Germany, but also organisations such as the EU, which are the political beneficiaries of favourable policy decisions from paedophile national leaders ‘rewarded’ by access to kidnapped children.
It should be possible to track ring activity against say EU inter-governmental conferences, just as Provisional IRA activity (the DVD took over the Abwehr’s extensive Irish Free State network in 1944, the IRA was false-flagged via KGB until 1969) can be measured against German or EU strategic objectives (attacks on the City, eg, in the run-up to the choice of HQ for the ECB). Thus May saw an upsurge in abductions of children across Europe. No one warned parents taking young children to holiday destinations inside the EU that they should take extra precautions to protect their offspring or that if a DVD-backed paedophile ring were involved official assistance might be tardy, compromised or inefficient. RUN-UP TO THE KIDNAP

11. The McCann family (Drs Gerry and Kate McCann, Madeleine, aged 3, and twins Sean and Amelie, aged 2) left Rothley, Leicestershire, England for a much-anticipated holiday at Praia da Luz on the Algarve on Saturday 28th April 2007, flying to Faro, Portugal. There was an area of high pressure over the Bay of Lagos and weather conditions were fine, with little or no wind. Madeleine’s Cuddle Cat toy was tucked safely into a bag and nothing could have been further from the family’s mind than being at the centre of an international incident, leading to discreetly heightened military states of alert, (and possible re-targeting of Russian Federation Strategic Rocket Forces ICBMs and IRBMs on Germany), triggering a crisis of confidence in the Portuguese Republic and accelerating a collapse in the price of holidays in the EU, to the point where they are now on sale for under £10, including flights, but not Air Passenger Duty (it is doubtful if the Treasury thought this would be the most expensive component of a package holiday).
Praia da Luz and the Mark Warner Ocean Club complex in particular were held out as a safe family destination. The Portuguese authorities must have been aware of organised paedophile activity in the Faro region in the run-up to 3rd May. Several children had either been abducted, or had survived abduction attempts, in the six months prior to the McCanns’ arrival. No one alerted the Mark Warner Organisation to the dangers posed to young children, security at resorts was not heightened and there was no extra police presence on the streets to act as a deterrent.

12. On either the 29th or 30th April Madeleine was photographed using a digital camera, very possibly a mobile (cell) phone camera, on an Algarve beach, probably Sagres, near Cape St.Vincent, scene of Sir John Jervis’ great victory. This photograph, together with possibly two others (the reporting is unclear) were sent on or about 1st May, as e-mail attachments, from a computer in Praia da Luz used by an intelligence gatherer for the Lisbon ring, who has been interviewed by Portuguese police, to an e-mail address in Brussels linked to the Belgian ring closest to the EU. This e-mail was intercepted at a switching centre, but its significance was not appreciated until after Madeleine’s abduction.

The paedophile being serviced in Brussels seems to have specified blonde-haired girls, aged about 5, preferably British. Reporting suggests that, tragically for her, Madeleine was selected by this morally worthless individual, who must have appreciated that she could not be released alive after he had finished abusing her. 13. Also on 1st May the motor yacht Stentor, length 11.7 metres, beam 3.7 metres, standard displacement approximately 4 tons, approximate maritime endurance 28 days, 36 BHP diesel engine, flying the Dutch flag, pennant number 6571ZG1999, home port Sneek, owner J, a subject of Her Netherlands Majesty, operating from Amsterdam, whose full details have been communicated to the Netherlands General Intelligence and Security Service (AIVD), sortied from Portimao, about 15 nautical miles from Praia da Luz, positioning itself at the Lagos Marina, about 5 statute miles from the Mark Warner Complex. J seems to have made contact between 1st and 3rd May with Sergey Malinka, a Russian Federation Citizen, interviewed by Portuguese Police (but only after media inquiries had linked him to the only formal suspect, a British Citizen named Robert Murat, and he was tipped off, allowing him to wipe his hard drive) who is understood to have come under SVR investigation and may have been linked by them to a DVD-controlled narcotics trafficking ring, trafficking Northern Valley cartel cocaine to the Iberian Peninsular via the Gulf of Guinea, using a transhipment point on an island in the Sao Tome and Principe group known to the DVD, as indeed it was known to German Naval Intelligence in World War Two (the DVD are ruthless, but not Nazis, they are not that stupid).

14. The McCann family was placed under surveillance from 1st May. The routine followed on 3rd May had already been followed on previous nights, although not every night. A group of British families left their apartment doors unlocked, so that adults could check on the children. Drs Gerry and Kate McCann were not far from their apartment on Thursday 3rd May.
Whilst they were not able to keep it under continuous observation they were no more than 40 yards away, the children were fast asleep, none of them was unwell, and responsible adults, including themselves, were making regular checks throughout the evening. The adults could not eat in the self-catering apartment without disturbing the childrens’ sleep and if they were to dine together realistically that needed to be outside. The tapas bar where Madeleine’s parents dined is part of the Ocean Club complex. It is less than a minute away from the apartment where the family was staying. Neither parent was armed, indeed they would not have been permitted to board a commercial aircraft with firearms even if they possessed any (which they do not). Not having received a warning of predatory criminal activity in the area, none of the Mark Warner staff possessed so much as a side-arm.

15. The parents have been criticised for these arrangements, indeed Portuguese officials briefed the media that they might be prosecuted for neglect, but there are no grounds for supposing that there was a breach of Portuguese law, nor would these arrangements be grounds for any proceedings in an English court. The key points to remember, it is submitted, are that there were regular checks by trusted adults known to the McCanns, as well as the McCanns themselves, ie the British families at the Ocean Club complex were looking out for each other, they were not warned about organised paedophile activity, indeed they were assured in terms that this was a safe environment for their children, and the parents never left the Ocean Club complex where their children were asleep. The last check on the children was at about 2010Z.


THE KIDNAP OF MADELEINE McCANN 16. In the afternoon of 3rd May the motor yacht Panic II, Dutch registry, owned by A (whose full details again have been communicated to AIVD in The Hague), pennant number P2006/39060, home port Hellevoetsluis Netherlands, built 1983, single-masted, single aluminium hull, length 10.2 metres, beam 3.3 metres, approximate standard displacement 3.5 tons, fitted it is believed with a 2-stroke diesel engine, positioned from Portimao, where she had arrived on the 1st, to Lagos. She waited there until about 1945Z, just before the marina was shut at 2000Z by lowering a lifting bridge, then moved out beyond the lifting bridge, where she was moored to a pontoon on the port side of the small canal leading to the open sea, where she waited.

Sergey Malinka left his home in Praia da Luz some time between the Panic II’s arrival and Madeleine’s kidnap. It is believed he was in communication with A and his wife on board the Panic II. There is name recognition of A from intelligence sources. Drs Gerry and Kate McCann seem to have been under continuous surveillance by a male, name unknown, possibly of Spanish or Moroccan nationality. 17. At around 2035Z heavy shutters to a ground floor window to the McCanns’ ground floor apartment were forced open and entry was gained through the window, which was not particularly secure once the shutters had been opened.
There was a team of two, a man and a woman, who spoke English. Entry having been gained they would doubtless have appreciated an intelligence failure, as the families had left the front doors unlocked, so that the group could look in on the children. No alarm system was fitted and very frankly with such locks as were fitted it would have made no difference whether the door was locked or not.
There may have been a chain but it was too high for the children to reach, ie its use was not practicable. In any event the security mechanisms would not have delayed entry by more than seconds. Madeleine (I am told her parents are most insistent she be referred to as Madeleine) seems to have been asleep, clutching her favourite Cuddle Cat toy. All the children, excited no doubt by their seaside holiday, were very tired and almost certainly sound asleep, as they were when checked at 2010Z. Media commentary suggests it would have made a difference had an adult been baby-sitting, but it is submitted this is unreal.

18. There is no reason whatsoever to suppose this team were unarmed, indeed there is reason to believe each of the males (one on the ****** team and one keeping guard) was equipped with a Makarov 9 mm semi-automatic pistol, fitted with a silencer. The woman was also probably armed, possibly with a smaller calibre Beretta, again fitted with a silencer. Since the reporting of COMINT traffic suggests that Madeleine was to be abused by a high-ranking Brussels-based official in the EU the operation clearly involved her eventual murder. The team of three may have murdered many children in the making of ’snuff’ movies and all the evidence suggests that they are experienced and brutal child-killers, who would have killed an adult getting in their way without compunction.

19. A further explanation re the German DVD might assist, if only to deal with the quaint notion that this highly organised, albeit insane, operation might have been stopped by an unarmed babysitter. The DVD are the world’s most ruthless, as well as most secretive, intelligence organisation - they conceived, eg, the operational plans for the Brighton Bombing (ingenious but flawed), the destruction of PanAm Flight 103 (conceived in haste and it showed) and 9-11 (ludicrous, 47,000 deaths short of the kill target, which thankfully was never going to be reached, given the genius of the design of the Twin Towers, not that 3,000 dead wasn’t bad enough, and well short of the economic goal of sabotaging the US airline & aviation industries) - and took in the ‘cream’ of the Abwehr, SD and Gestapo (Heinrich Mueller, for example, who also faked his own death, indeed there were the remains of two people in his coffin, neither of them him) in 1944-6. Martin Bormann, Dr. Josef Mengele and Adolf Eichmann were all DVD, which is why the Mossad, on whom the DVD have waged war since 1948, lifted him, and why Rafi Eitan, God Bless him, was able to persuade Isser Harel to persuade El Al to fork out for a 300-series Bristol Britannia, a not inexpensive bit of kit, for the operation.

The DVD lurk behind most Islamic terror groups and their paedophile ring operations, whilst hugely successful in terms of political blackmail, have seen the murder of hundreds of children. Possibly as a spin-off from this investigation (the arrests happened over the weekend of 2nd and 3rd June after a tip-off to the Spanish CNI), a racket smuggling children from Brazil to Portugal and Spain has been blown, ie it looks as though some of the homeless children being abducted in cities such as Sao Paolo ended up being abused by politicians and senior officials in the EU. Intel re the DVD is STRATINT (Strategic Intelligence), ie intelligence which might alter the course of history, influence events or affect policy-making at the strategic level.

20. The Panic II waited whilst Madeleine was seized from the apartment. Seemingly reliable eyewitnesses report seeing a child answering Madeleine’s description being taken in a white Renault (it was a Clio) from Praia da Luz towards Lagos and being taken, struggling, towards the marina in Lagos itself. It does not appear that she was drugged. One possible explanation for that is dosage, ie it is easier than it sounds to assess the right dosage to render a small child unconscious without killing him or her. We will probably find that members of this ring have killed small children before they could be abused through unintentional overdoses.

EXFILTRATION 21. The Panic II sortied at about 2115Z, having filed a destination report of Albufeira, about 3-4 hours sailing time away, an odd time to set sail on a holiday cruise. She seems to have rendezvoused, using GPS, at sea, doubling back on her original easterly course once over the horizon, with the Stentor, which arrived in Albufeira on 5th May, having given an original destination of Sines, on the west coast. She left again on the 6th, ostensibly headed for Lisbon. The Panic II never arrived at Albufeira, ie we have two yachts giving seemingly false destinations, indeed the author has seen no reporting of the Panic II after 3rd May. Neither owner of these yachts has come forward, which calls for comment in itself since they were first two boats out of Lagos after the kidnap and it has been reported widely that an eyewitness saw a young girl looking like Madeleine being dragged towards the marina.

Reporting suggests that at least part of these transfers was caught by Low Light Level (LLL) electro-optical imagery from a US (NRO) KH-13 recon satellite in non-geostationary earth orbit. In the author’s estimation the original intention was to take Madeleine to a small harbour or inlet on the north Belgian coast, with say a 10 nautical mile radius of Antwerp, using up to 4 yachts, with at-sea transfer co-ordinated using GPS, which would attract little suspicion at this time of year, especially if their starting point was well away from Portugal (the last yacht for example could have sortied from Cowes). An average line of advance of 7.5 knots is realistic.

Detailed analysis by small-boat specialists, based on up to date charts, meteorological data (there was heavy weather in the Bay of Biscay after the 3rd), tides and currents, suggests a journey-time of 10-11 days, with an original ETA of the night of 13th/14th May. 22. There is no reporting of any suspicious air movement in the Faro Region on 3rd May, no reliable reporting of Madeleine in Spain and no sign of her on the CCTV tape taken at a petrol station on the A22 expressway, which appears to catch the ****** team of two men and a woman in the Renault Clio. OSINT (Open Sourced Intelligence) suggests that this unnamed group (if innocent, why not come forward and speak to the police?) could not possibly be involved as they would not take such a risk as to obtain petrol at a garage with CCTV, assuming they knew about the cameras. There is no reason to suppose however that Madeleine was with them - she could only have been ‘concealed’ in the hatchback area.
Even with a proper boot, concealing a kidnap victim in it is more difficult than it sounds, unless the victim is drugged, and drugging, especially of children, by non-medical personnel, brings its own problems. The author knows intelligence officers who have concealed people in boots of cars and it is usually done with willing adults for short hops across frontiers. It is not clear how much petrol was purchased, but it does not appear to have been a full tank (which in most versions of the Clio is 55 litres, just over 12 Imperial gallons), ie this may just have been a top-up, bearing in mind the ****** team had a long, night-time journey ahead of them, not all on Autopistas, nor could they know for sure that the request for a 12 hour getaway window would be honoured (it seems as though they asked for 15 hours including a 3-hour reserve, and DCCB in Lisbon cut it back to 12 as the magnitude of the blunder in selecting Madeleine became apparent). 23. Reporting suggests that the Renault Clio ends up at a safe house near National Route IV, within a 25-mile radius of Valdepenas, in the Toledo Region of Spain, south of Madrid.

Reporting also suggests this facility includes a converted barn, where ’snuff’ movies have been shot, and is surrounded by the shallow graves of dozens of children, whom reporting suggests are mostly French, kidnapped from the streets of Paris. Satellite observation appears to confirm the shallow graves. The CNI were tipped off, through a cut-out, backed up by direct contact with Spanish Intelligence in London. A number of intelligence officers may have reconnoitred this site, as the reporting is coming in from multiple sources. The People story on 4th June suggests, recklessly in the author’s opinion (efforts, including liaison with the DA-Notice Committee, have been made for two weeks to keep mention of Morocco out of the public domain) that Madeleine may have been taken via the fast ferry from Tarifa in Spain to Tangiers. That is hardly likely (Moroccan Customs are efficient), but there is reporting of a team of two men and woman in Morocco, and it may be the same team.

Given the pressure now being applied on the safe house it is not unreasonable to suppose that the ****** team may have been ordered south to Morocco. The People report, which quotes sources “close to the investigation” suggests that GCHQ have been monitoring relevant mobile phone calls from Morocco, with references, unsurprisingly, to a German. German intelligence activity in Morocco of course goes back over a century (it was a German strategic ambition to control both sides of the approaches to the Straits of Gibraltar, and the brutal, failed 1971 coup was masterminded by GeneralLeutnant Otto Ernst Remmer of the DVD, a courageous but ruthless intelligence officer) (the DVD is an intelligence agency, not part of the German military, indeed it is not officially an organ of the German state at all, but when engaging DVD officers of general rank in conversation, eg the late GeneralOberst Markus Wolf, it has been the author’s experience that punctilious observance of rank is advised) .

24. In the author’s assessment the DVD-controlled rings (essentially any ring operating inside the EU and supplying bio-leverage material to the DVD) are sending children to this facility (and no doubt others) to be murdered in the course of snuff movies, after they have been abused to the point where they are no longer of interest to the politicians, officials and others being serviced. Their tragic and violent ends are then filmed for profit.

THE RV NAOMI CORLETT 25. Reporting placed Madeleine on the RV Naomi Corlett as long ago as 18th May. This intelligence was passed immediately to the Operation Task incident room at Leicester, but it was accorded a low priority, even after the one-day conference on Thursday 24th May. With respect it does not seem to have been fully appreciated that positional intelligence of this type is time limited, ie it has to be verified and acted upon quickly. Contrary to the author’s suggestion no application was made for military assistance to the civil power. The Chief of the Defence Staff (CDS) cannot be criticised for the decision to wait for such a request before acting - in the UK this has been a police-led, not intelligence-led inquiry, and the constitutional position is that military assets are not committed until requested. Operation Task in turn deferred to the DCCB, the reasoning being that it was up to the Portuguese to request a board and search. Such thinking would have been sound had there been any intelligence placing the Naomi Corlett in the territorial sea of Portugal. This vessel was last reported alongside in Lagos as long as 29th September 2003 however and there is no reporting of her in Portuguese waters.
The author makes no apology for pushing hard for this vessel to be tracked, boarded and searched.

26. The Naomi Corlett is operated by the Corlett Line, an ostensibly reputable company running tours to Sao Tome and Principe in the Gulf of Guinea, one of the world’s less visited holiday destinations. Photographs of her appear at http://www.corlettline.info, under the ‘research’ tab. Further details, including her involvement in a search for gold lost on HMS Sussex in 1694, appear at http://www.corlettmaritima.com, a site which links Sergey Malinka to the Corlett Line and thence the Naomi Corlett. She is a former trawler, built in New Orleans LA, originally named the MV Seahawk. She was sold to the Corlett Line in Gibraltar in 2001 (Royal Gibraltar Police have been extremely helpful and efficient). Her call-sign is ZITW2, displacement 149 tons and registry, apparently, Portuguese. There is an infra-red and sound proofed compartment, where it is believed Madeleine was being held. The boat is fitted with a high-capacity A-Frame and appears to have had some interesting modifications below the waterline. She may be fitted with a hull-mounted sonar, possibly something like an Atlas Elektronik DBQS-21D.

It is not possible wholly to exclude two underwater 533mm torpedo tubes - the DVD have deep connections inside the German defence industry (and banks, especially those operating before 1945) and are involved in covert supplies of weapons, including torpedoes, to rogue states such as Iran.

27. Reporting places her 100 miles north or south of Casablanca, which should have been firmed up on or after 18th May by satellite or UAV recon. She is said to be alongside in a small port and reporting suggests that a team of two men and a woman (this might be the ****** team) come ashore in the evening and go to a bar, presumably for orders. Some of this reporting is probably based on covert ground observation, coming to the author through a cut-out. What is unclear is whether there was a direct transfer from the Stentor or whether there was a fourth vessel involved. JARIC/GCHQ 28. The NSA were asked, informally, to assist as early as 6th May.

They cannot confirm that directly of course, since any assistance was rendered on a deniable basis, but there is no reason to doubt that relevant IMINT and COMINT was being passed to GCHQ as early as 7th May, which was not passed to those who needed to know (ie Operation Task). Satellite coverage of the Moroccan coast, inevitably, is intermittent, giving windows of opportunity to the ring to move Madeleine onshore or to another vessel, perhaps briefly going to sea for that purpose. Courtesy of the deniable assistance of MCC an informal conference was convened in secure surroundings at Lords on the 4th day of the First Test (Sunday 20th May)(the author will not lengthen this assessment by explaining to the US recipients how a ball game can go five days without a result), which so far as the author knows saw MOD and police for the first time in the same room at the same time discussing this case (reporting lines went back to CDS and the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, who chanced to be at Lords that day).
The author’s recommendation was that with the consent of His Moroccan Majesty’s Government Special Forces, with appropriate medical backing, be tasked to board and search the RV Naomi Corlett, preferably under hours of darkness, without delay. At that time it seemed she was anchored offshore, and one obvious method of covert approach would be to use an SSN, whilst allowing for the possibility of hull-mounted active and passive sonar arrays. Nothing was done however, that is to say everything was left to Leicestershire Constabulary, who left it to the Portuguese authorities, who made no request about which the author can be told to the Moroccan Government.

29. After dialling in on the morning of 30th May, the author received a call several hours later (no doubt after background checks and clearance) from a nice lady Flight Lieutenant at JARIC (Joint Air Reconnaissance Intelligence Centre), the intention being to hook JARIC up directly with NSA on a STU-3 encrypted line. This system is compromised, but as always encryption provides delay and a degree of additional security. As the author well knew JARIC has been tasked to assist in searches for civilian detainees (eg the Johnson kidnap in Gaza Strip) and there are arrangements for sanitising (it has the facility to sanitise IMINT and pass to civilian police). Interference was run from Whitehall however and JARIC were pulled off the search on the 31st.
If the highly competent Flight Lieutenant has been re-assigned, the respectful suggestion to CDI is that she be restored to duty forthwith and promoted immediately to Squadron Leader. So far as the author is aware she is the only British intelligence officer to have grasped the implications of this case, the need to act without delay and the importance of having our intelligence community act in accordance with core British values, which do not, as the author conceives them to be, extend to leaving a helpless British infant to a grisly fate at the hands of a foreign power, however disguised those hands may be.

These core values are shared with our American allies and if the NSA can act in accordance with them there is no reason, it is submitted, why DIS, GCHQ and JARIC could not follow their splendid, but deniable, example.


MOROCCAN CAPABILITIES 30. With official paralysis in Whitehall, partly due, surely, to the dual premiership, which in practice has proved unworkable to the point of exposing British Citizens to mortal danger, two discreet channels were opened up to His Moroccan Majesty’s Government. With respect His Majesty King Mohammed VI is a good king, and His Consort, Princess Salma, would undoubtedly have a deep understanding of the anguish of Madeleine’s parents. It was reasonable to suppose the Moroccans would act with humanity and efficiency, but Madeleine is a British Citizen and there was no official request either from London, or her parents, who in practice are dependent for intelligence upon the DCCB (resources are being put into campaigning and rightly so, but no resources are available for intelligence-gathering). Moroccan capabilities should not be underestimated.

They have a very usable UAV platform, the R4E-50, with a pre-programmable, GPS linked, navigation facility and an effective sensor suite including LLL TV with live downlink and Forward Looking Infra Red (FLIR). With an endurance of 12 hours 3 R4E-50s could give sustainable 24-hour recon of the vessel of interest. The Royal Guard are loyal and well-trained, and despite the best efforts of the DVD’s Karim al-Majati do not appear to have been penetrated by Al Qaeda. The Light Security Brigade would be available for back-up. The Royal Moroccan Air Force is well equipped and trained and at least two of their C-130H Hercules aircraft have been fitted with the Motorola APS-94 side-scan radar, ideal for the task. The Moroccans should still be asked to board and search the Naomi Corlett, since it is the best lead to Madeleine. The efficient Moroccan DST have capable interrogation experts, who would of course show an appropriate level of regard for the suspects’ human rights. LIEGE 31.

It was unreasonable to suppose that with over two weeks of official inactivity and lack of co-ordination in London and Leicester the ring would continue to hold Madeleine on the Naomi Corlett. It is reasonable to suppose efforts to move her were started soon after the Portuguese were tipped off from Leicester.

There is recent (3rd June) OSINT reporting, prompting a 24 hour delay in completing this assessment, of a sighting of Madeleine in Liege, Belgium. Given known paedophile ring activity there and apparent tacit support, sadly, of the Belgian Government for the activities of the two DVD-backed rings on Belgian soil (which if true would be unsurprising given Belgium’s support for the EU and the reported presence of paedophiles in the government), and the detail of the sighting report (noting the distinguishing feature in Madeleine’s right eye), the author is inclined to treat it as prima facie credible (the sighting report by a Norwegian Subject, variously described as British or Nigerian, Marie Olli, in Marrakesh on 9th May, may be of Madeleine, but is much more likely to have been of a similar young girl - this would make sense as the ring is catering to a specific, depraved, paedophile taste). 32. This report needs verifying without delay. She may still be on board the Naomi Corlett, but that would require a remarkable degree of arrogance or complacency on the part of the ring and the DVD. If Madeleine is traced to Belgium, the assistance of the Belgian authorities may not be forthcoming and a Special Forces rescue mission is simply out.

Tactical surprise could not be achieved. It would need to be a Special Forces led commando raid with air support (the British people would expect nothing less if told the Belgians had refused to help). Our forces would most likely have to fight their way out, protecting Madeleine to their utmost, runways would have to be disabled with JP233s and Coningsby’s new Typhoon F1s would be needed for a CAP.
The risks are obvious. Realistically, rather than mounting a rescue, the UK would need to ask the Belgians to rescue Madeleine and if such a request were refused, break off diplomatic relations with the King of the Belgians (in reality Anglo-Belgian relations collapsed in the Gulf War) and issue an ultimatum, which would lead to (1) compliance and Madeleine’s safe recovery (2) refusal, followed by the rapid collapse of the Belgian Government and compliance or (3) refusal and all that follows in public international law and relations between states when one state involves itself in the capture, sexual abuse and murder of infant children from another state for political purposes. 33. The Russians must be watching this fiasco with growing interest.

They too have satellites, and their capable intelligence (which by the way had nothing whatsoever to do with the death of Lt-Colonel Litvinenko, as a close analysis of the autopsy report and the Polonium signature (Iranian, delivered via an airfield outside Hamburg) ought to reveal) will undoubtedly have determined the DVD to be involved. I am aware from conversations at a senior intelligence adviser to the President level in Moscow that the SVR are aware of the DVD, and know that ‘commercial’ German IMINT was supplied to the terrorists at Beslan by the DVD. I am led to believe that the Madeleine crisis featured in conversation between Presidents Putin and Clinton in a quiet meeting in Austria. The Russians are not angry at the moment with their war-time allies, but with their wartime enemies.

The degree of German political influence in London and Washington is understood in Moscow, and the current diplomatic crisis is in reality a Russo-German crisis. Russian forces seem to have been put on a higher state of alert. No doubt JARIC are keeping an eye out for major Russian troop movements westwards and GCHQ are keeping an ear out for an increase in Russian military radio traffic and traffic between Moscow, Minsk and Warsaw. Polish Intelligence are well aware, at a senior level, of the DVD’s role in the attempted assassination of Poland’s courageous former Prime Minister Laszek Miller, in order to stop Poland vetoing a previous constitutional treaty, and Polish-German relations have cooled in consequence. SSKs 34. There is reporting of unusual sonar traces, possibly picked up on the SOSUS network, of SSK activity in the Gulf of Cadiz/Lagos Bay sea areas, although how unusual may not have been clear at first. One or more transfers may have been executed by an SSK, including possibly a transfer to Belgium, but if so it will have been a very old, albeit refitted SSK, normally used for cocaine shipments to the US East Coast and the Iberian Peninsular.
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These will almost certainly be part of the small fleet of Type XXI long-range transport U-Boats ordered by German Naval Intelligence in 1943 from the F Schichau yard in Danzig, built under cover (these are the ‘missing’ Type XXIs U-2532, U-2547, U-2549, U-2550, U-3042 and U-3043, with a reduced torpedo load and large cargo hold forward, they were also adapted for carrying special passengers). One or more of these boats, and the Naomi Corlett, appear to be using an old covert U-Boat base in Sao Tome and Principe as a trans-shipment point. This base was used by boats such as Leutnant Jost Metzler’s U-69 in 1941 (U-69 had two logs, like the KMS Graf Spee, one to show where she had been and one to show where she had really been.) Typical cocaine load is about 50 metric tons.

The DEA and National Drug Intelligence Center in the USA have been made aware. They are interested.

ROBERT MURAT 35. Put very simply, he is not involved. He is a slightly odd character (not so odd that he pops out his glass eye as solemnly reported by the media, he is unsighted in one eye, but it is not glass) with a complicated private life, but there is not a shred of evidence linking him to this very grave crime. He does however have a British connection through his mother and was, it may be thought, a most convenient patsy.

CONCLUSION 36. Abandoning Madeleine to her fate is not, repeat not, an option. Aside from the dubious morality of such a course, the blow to British prestige would be immense and no government could survive the political fall-out. The younger and more vulnerable a British Citizen in mortal danger the greater the responsibility of government to protect her becomes. Any one disagreeing is welcome to watch what happens were a minister to try and hold such a position in the House of Commons. In reality the politically insane strategy of abandoning Madeleine is a deception strategy, ie it is based on the assumption that the truth that we know or knew where Madeleine was being held to a high degree of confidence could be with-held from the public. As they might say in CISEN (Mexican Intelligence): ‘no way, Jose.’

RECOMMENDATION FOR ACTION 37. With great respect the double-hatting of the Permanent Secretary in the Cabinet Office is not working as well as it should, without criticising Sir Richard (it was not in any event his idea). The JIC should be brought in without delay, all available IMINT, COMINT and SIGINT should be made available to it, even if classified under the present equivalent of Spoke, COBRA should be convened, and the Prime Minister in Waiting, with respect, should take the chair. Madeleine should be located without delay, the boarding of the RV Naomi Corlett should contribute to that, and Madeleine should be rescued. An urgent search should also be undertaken for linked SSKs. This operation will probably also lead to a minimum 50% reduction (say 175 metric tons) in DVD (in effect German) sponsored cocaine trafficking into the UK, saving perhaps 15,000 lives a year, and major interdictions of cocaine shipments into the US Eastern Seaboard. It should also lead to a major increase in understanding in the UKUSA Intelligence Community of the links between organised crime and hostile intelligence agencies. These are positive strategic outcomes.

MICHAEL SHRIMPTON ADVISORY BOARD GERARD GROUP INTERNATIONAL LLC 1230Z05JUN07


http://www.topix.com/forum/news/jonbene ... 2CE783/p47

[weston white]

In the grounds of the Court Hotel is built the "very first preceptory" (chapel or Temple) built by the Templar in England in AD 1122.

11+22=33

...wow, always something with those wacky Simplars!

[carlperkins]

Thanks for that Illuminotti, fascinating read, although at times it makes me feel a bit sick to contemplate the scale of the abuse.

[lightgiver]

the pit is indeed dark and deep:eek::(

[signalnorth]

One piece of info that was reported early on and never to my knowledge repeated was that two of the women in the holiday party gave birth within minutes of Kate having Madeline and at the same hospital! Struck me as a bit strange, and strange in being reported. Maybe be nothing in it of course.

[carlperkins]

It is indeed dark and deep at times. Does anyone know what happened to prophe c? Is it a similar tale to Rik Clay?

[kweli]

It is indeed dark and deep at times. Does anyone know what happened to prophe c? Is it a similar tale to Rik Clay?

Aha! you broke the curse! No one's posted on this thread since 6/6/6pm :eek:

[carlperkins]

(Bump!) I'm not scared of curses like that!

[kweli]

(Bump!) I'm not scared of curses like that!

Glad to hear it. It was meant as a joke.;)

[carlperkins]

Bump

[ms hope]

How many child are being trafficked as we speak and what is being done to stop it

thousands if not millions are being taken forced adoption in the Uk

www.whatdotheyknow.com look at just(Tory) Kent's figures alone , disgusting corruption,with a social worker/chief executive officer in charge highest paid in the country

And social workers lining up to be MP,s with the Tory party , obviously know what side their bread is buttered on

[runciter]

• MADELEINE MCCANN AND THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION PEADOPHILE SCANDAL:
It was reported on 7th August that the Metropolitan Police (London) have confirmed in an email that Madeleine McCann, aged 5, who was snatched on 3rd May 2007 in Praia de Luz, Portugal, as widely rehearsed in the media, was abducted to the order of a paedophile organisation based in Belgium. We have been informed that the way this depraved activity operates is that the ‘client’ is sent three photographs of children, and chooses one of them, who is then provided, to meet his depraved requirements. The individual who selected little Madeleine McCann is a very senior official of the European Commission in Brussels. His name has been reported to this service [see below].

• LATE INSERTION: The Editor had intended to WITHHOLD the identity of the senior EC official concerned. However, in the light of the 'triple gunshot threat voicemail' referenced above, and given that in these cricumstances, the lapse of time between the threat and the exposure must be minimised, we have been forced to reveal the top European Commission official concerned.

His hereby shamed name is Jose Manuel Barroso, the President of the European Commission.

The paedophile and abduction ring is. moreover, actually run out of the European Commission itself. The current position is that the DVD are refusing to release the child, although our British sources have reason to believe that she remains alive. It has been conveyed to DVD that if this child is harmed (beyond the abominable degree to which the child has already been harmed), the consequences will be extreme. This posting will serve as an immediate wake-up call and warning that this child must be released into the care of her parents forthwith and that the use of this child as hostage in any negotiations with British authorities is considered an abomination well beyond the normal range of abominations for which the Nazi pervert DVD are notorious.

All those concerned must be aware of the consequences of further exposure of this matter. Such exposure would compromise perverted politicians in the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Belgium and Italy, as well as the corrupt European Union structures.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/169_operations_of_dvd_dachau_against_the_main_enem y

[light_shiner]

the pit is indeed dark and deep:eek::(
As the days pass the depths of this pit gets murkier. I wish that I knew the answers to this case but I can only speculate like most observers from the sidelines. The direction that our individual speculation takes us depends, in my opinion, on elements such as the following:

(a) the amount of research into the case that we have done on an individual level over the past 27 months, including the absorbing of a large amount of disinformation and false leads

(b) the extent to which our own past experiences of situations involving murky political and commercial dealings and cover-ups can be related to similar happenings in the McCann case, including media and forum manipulation

(iii) personal observations of how people behave in such situations.

Consequently, I feel that the Shrimpton Report, even allowing for the fact that part of it may be mere padding which does not originate from Michael Shrimpton himself, provides sufficient substance for a suspicion that the McCanns may not be the people who are in command of the situation and are possibly complying to the wishes and dictates of others (unknown but powerful and influential) for reasons unknown to us mere mortals.

It is assumed by some that the McCanns are the principal players in a major production supported by the powerful and influential persons and organisations. Alternatively, a view could be taken that perhaps they are only publicly appearing in a scaled down version of the main production, ie the are merely support performers to the big event which is being staged behind closed doors because of political and/or security considerations.

I suspect that the main production would have finished its run within a few weeks of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and then be forgotten by the population in the normal course of news events. But this has certainly not happened and the debate and speculation continues. Perhaps the main characters initially - the McCanns and the Tapas Group - were compliant and co-operative participants. But a sequence of events has subsequently caused confusion and has extended the number of scenes in the production. Such incidents could have involved minor characters (eg relatives) who may have strayed from the script plus others (individuals, organisations and forum/blog owners) who have jumped on stage uninvited to promote their own agenda. The result of such actions has served to create confusion and frustration among those people who are genuinely interested in finding out the truth relating to this case. Also, it is possible that they may have disrupted a carefully planned and co-ordinated cover-up - intentionally or accidentally.

[runciter]

Tuesday, August 11, 2009

Madeleine McCann and the Shrimpton Report


Both Aangirfan and the excellent whistler.blogspot/ (http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.com/) have taken an interest in the Madeleine McCann case.

Some time ago we noticed a strange document, called the Shrimpton Report, appearing on certain internet sites.

The so called Shrimpton Report is supposed to have been written by someone with connections to the world of intelligence.

The report suggests that a powerful European political figure wanted Madeleine kidnapped; and the German secret service was part of the plot.

Here is an excerpt from the so-called Michael Shrimpton Report (The First Boat Out of Port on the Morning of the 4th May 2007 (http://rosaleen-thewhistler.blogspot.com/2009/08/first-boats-out-of-port-on-morning-of.html)):

THE KIDNAP OF MADELEINE McCANN

16. In the afternoon of 3rd May the motor yacht Panic II, Dutch registry, owned by A (whose full details again have been communicated to AIVD in The Hague), pennant number P2006/39060, home port Hellevoetsluis Netherlands, built 1983, single-masted, single aluminium hull, length 10.2 metres, beam 3.3 metres, approximate standard displacement 3.5 tons, fitted it is believed with a 2-stroke diesel engine, positioned from Portimao, where she had arrived on the 1st, to Lagos. She waited there until about 1945Z, just before the marina was shut at 2000Z by lowering a lifting bridge, then moved out beyond the lifting bridge, where she was moored to a pontoon on the port side of the small canal leading to the open sea, where she waited.

Sergey Malinka left his home in Praia da Luz some time between the Panic II’s arrival and Madeleine’s kidnap. It is believed he was in communication with A and his wife on board the Panic II. There is name recognition of A from intelligence sources. Drs Gerry and Kate McCann seem to have been under continuous surveillance by a male, name unknown, possibly of Spanish or Moroccan nationality......


According to this so called Michael Shrimpton Report:

"The DVD (German secret service) are the world’s most ruthless, as well as most secretive, intelligence organisation - they conceived, eg, the operational plans for the Brighton Bombing (ingenious but flawed), the destruction of PanAm Flight 103 (conceived in haste and it showed) and 9-11."

This appears to be disinformation produced by someone with a high degree of knowledge of the subject matter.

The disinformation agent appears to favour the Anglo-Americans rather than the Germans.

Parts of the Shrimpton document may be accurate, but certainly not all of it.

Reportedly, a certain Michael Shrimpton is supposed to have stated that "A purported Intelligence Assessment on the Kidnap of Madeleine McCann, attributed to me, was placed on the Daily Mirror website without my knowledge or consent...

"The version which has appeared on the Internet is not I say again not in the form in which it was submitted, indeed it has been altered significantly."

(Source of quotes: Madeleine and the Masons [Archive] - David Icke's Official Forums (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-9716.html))

There, reportedly, is strong evidence that PanAm 103 and 9 11 were the work of American spooks.

We conclude that the disappearance of Madeleine McCann may well have something to do with powerful people in Europe, but the so called Shrimpton Report contains material intended to mislead.

~~

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2009/08/madeleine-mccann-and-shrimpton-report.html

[citrine]

http://www.samuelcraven.com/work/sarah-paynes-painting/

found this link interesting

scroll down for Gerry mccann's wider agenda

you can google the Sara Payne murder,
also ... Criminologist Mark Williams-Thomas said ... the case (Madeleine) bears striking similarities to the murder of Sarah Payne, ...

[moon monkey]

Or make them even more certain you are "crazy"! "Because Their home town has a Masonic Lodge"? Almost every town in Britain has one. "Gerry McCann & Gordon Brown are both Scottish" & your point is?? "Scot-Free-Mason"? "Gerry McCann is a doctor"! So therefore he must be part of a sixteenth century conspiracy with Pirates? "Beltain" This is the biggest collection of idiotic conjecture without the slightest regard for truth, evidence, or even plausibility! It's completely delusional.

For your information micro-chipping doesn't need a doctor or even a vet, anyone with a little training in where to insert the applicator can do it. They are not proven to cause cancer that I'm aware of but may have the potential to "migrate" to other areas of the body which may have the potential to cause problems.

Absolutely spot on !

What a load of childish and in my opinion evil nonsense Prophe C. I would love to know how people like you would react if it were your child that had been taken from you and taken God knows where would react? On top of that, to have imbeciles whose minds are totally clouded by what amounts to very weak and fantastic theories would be totally devastating.
I'm only glad that people such as yourself don't have a more prominent platform on which to spue your frankly selfish and ill thought out theories.

Grow up.

[carlperkins]

I think Prophe C was really just thinking out loud with his questions, I find them interesting as he seems to be trying to follow his intuition and instinct. He does say: Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)
"Just a play on words" get it? A play on words?

The Lodge in question I think is a Templar Lodge, different to a regular Masonic Lodge but due to the lack of transparency with this organisation we are left to wonder, marvel and guess what the hell goes on there. Prophe C's one and only post. I'd like to see more.

[carlperkins]

bump

[kimone]

i think madeleine is the image of her dad.

[carlperkins]

i think madeleine is the image of her dad.

I would hope so. I did hear somewhere he got her name wrong in one of his speeches.

[carlperkins]

bump

[light_shiner]

Thanks for digging this one out. I am a comparative newcomer to this forum (only joined in August 2009) but this was one thread that I retrospectively read from the beginning as I appreciated some excellent and informative contributions from most of the posters. In view of recent developments in the affair, I will probably be revisiting several postings as a memory jogging exercise.

[carlperkins]

Thanks for digging this one out. I am a comparative newcomer to this forum (only joined in August 2009) but this was one thread that I retrospectively read from the beginning as I appreciated some excellent and informative contributions from most of the posters. In view of recent developments in the affair, I will probably be revisiting several postings as a memory jogging exercise.

and here:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9412

[phildee3]

i think madeleine is the image of her dad.



I thought her dad was a test tube.

[rodin]

• MADELEINE MCCANN AND THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION PEADOPHILE SCANDAL:
It was reported on 7th August

http://www.worldreports.org/news/169_operations_of_dvd_dachau_against_the_main_enem y

I have found World Reports to be rather fanciful...

[rodin]

FWIW and I know not so much about sacrifices and the rest but...

There was an Old Testament tradition of sacrificing the first born...

Looks like Maddie was the first born in her family

The British girl went missing from an apartment, in the central area of the resort of Praia da Luz, a few days before her fourth birthday

Her parents reported to the police that they had taken Madeleine to their holiday apartment at 18:00 Western European Summer Time, to prepare Madeleine and her two-year-old twin siblings for bed

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[hadabusa]

does anyone know how masons cry/pray for a sacrified(own)kid?

the mccans cried very similiar to how muslims pray.


this cant be coincidence.


anyone?

[phildee3]

There was an Old Testament tradition of sacrificing the first born...



The first born son.
Daughters were exempt.

[hadabusa]

The first born son.
Daughters were exempt.

okok.

but any idea on why they "cried" the way they did after maddie was gone?

[rodin]

The first born son.
Daughters were exempt.

Yes but now that would be considered sexist...

Still think it's a runner...

Like U have to do something dreadful to get into a power group to prove allegiance

[hadabusa]

Yes but now that would be considered sexist...

Still think it's a runner...

Like U have to do something dreadful to get into a power group to prove allegiance

or in order to become a permanent blackmailthreat victim:)


have you seen them bowing after "she went missing"?

its HIGHLY suspicious.

[phildee3]

any idea on why they "cried" the way they did after maddie was gone?



i) to convince others of their innocence.
ii) to make lots of money.

[hadabusa]

i) to convince others of their innocence.
ii) to make lots of money.

no,i mean the very first reaction in the room,only witnessed by cops.

they both aligned paralel on the bed and made movements like muslims do during pray.

that is not normal.

want a vid to see what i mean?
i cant explain it well in words

[velma]

does anyone know how masons cry/pray for a sacrified(own)kid?

the mccans cried very similiar to how muslims pray.


this cant be coincidence.


anyone?

It is the Masonic 'Grand Hailing Sign of Distress' This is used in extreme circumstances in which a Mason finds himself in a crisis or in a bind. In such an emergency he gives the 'Grand Hailing Sign of Distress' sometimes called the 'High Sign' so that brethren who recognise the secret sign of distress will come to the rescue. Gerry did it when the police arrived, believing they too would be Masons. The officers who turned up were baffled, but other Elitists in the Brotherhood clearly recognised this sign and duly came to the rescue.

FYI - Gordon Brown lost his first-born son before being elevated to Prime Minister and David Cameron, our next PM, also lost his firstborn son.

Maddy was not a male child, but after her death, Gerry posed the 'Due-Guard' sign on the front pages, which signals fitness for elevation to the next level.

He earned it!

[hadabusa]

It is the Masonic 'Grand Hailing Sign of Distress' This is used in extreme circumstances in which a Mason finds himself in a crisis or in a bind. In such an emergency he gives the 'Grand Hailing Sign of Distress' sometimes called the 'High Sign' so that brethren who recognise the secret sign of distress will come to the rescue. Gerry did it when the police arrived, believing they too would be Masons. The officers who turned up were baffled, but other Elitists in the Brotherhood clearly recognised this sign and duly came to the rescue.

FYI - Gordon Brown lost his first-born son before being elevated to Prime Minister and David Cameron, our next PM, also lost his firstborn son.

Maddy was not a male child, but after her death, Gerry posed the 'Due-Guard' sign on the front pages, which signals fitness for elevation to the next level.

He earned it!

im glad you didnt let this slip past the radar.

i remember when i saw it the first time, the alarm bells rang immediatelly.

however, does it implify they sacrified her?

the sign has nothing to do with sacrifice?:confused:

[phildee3]

no,i mean the very first reaction in the room,only witnessed by cops.

they both aligned paralel on the bed and made movements like muslims do during pray.

that is not normal.

want a vid to see what i mean?
i cant explain it well in words



so why the f don't you just link to the vid.?
Why the need to ask?

[hadabusa]

so why the f don't you just link to the vid.?
Why the need to ask?

bc its in the fn middle of a 90minute docu.

it looks exactly like when muslims pray.but the mccanns added plenty of "whine" to it.

[phildee3]

FYI - Gordon Brown lost his first-born son before being elevated to Prime Minister and David Cameron, our next PM, also lost his firstborn son.



Now that is interesting!
Sacrifice to the demiurge...



Maddy was not a male child, but after her death, Gerry posed the 'Due-Guard' sign on the front pages, which signals fitness for elevation to the next level.

He earned it!



Indeed, - but I don't think this is specifically related to the firstborn son sacrifice of Judaism.
More like she was bred to be a representative of a goddess (like Diana - only in this case, the Magdelene) to be ritually sacrificed to get rid of her influence on the world.

[phildee3]

want a vid to see what i mean?



Yes please.

[hadabusa]

Yes please.

fk, cant find it:mad:

ill search again

[velma]

im glad you didnt let this slip past the radar.

i remember when i saw it the first time, the alarm bells rang immediatelly.

however, does it implify they sacrified her?

the sign has nothing to do with sacrifice?:confused:

Not neccessarily sacrifice... but it implies they were in DEEP shit and needed the Brethren of the Craft to come to their aid. Why would they signal for assistance from fellow Masons if the child had simply been abducted?

Gerry did the 'Grand Hailing' sign in front of the police outside the flat and then they both did it on the bed indoors. Weirdos.

[marpat]

Not neccessarily sacrifice... but it implies they were in DEEP shit and needed the Brethren of the Craft to come to their aid. Why would they signal for assistance from fellow Masons if the child had simply been abducted?

Gerry did the 'Grand Hailing' sign in front of the police outside the flat and then they both did it on the bed indoors. Weirdos.

Can you provide some evidence from a masonic source about this sign and when the McCanns supposedly used this gesture? I would be interested in seeing this.

If they were in such deep trouble and had links to people who could get them out of it then why would they need to do such a thing on the TV? why dont they just phone a friend and use a simple code word rather than needing to get TV coverage before using a hand sign to summon help? sound slike a load of rubbish to me. It would be a complete waste of time and effort and would risk exposure, if it were true.

[hadabusa]

Can you provide some evidence from a masonic source about this sign and when the McCanns supposedly used this gesture? I would be interested in seeing this.

If they were in such deep trouble and had links to people who could get them out of it then why would they need to do such a thing on the TV? why dont they just phone a friend and use a simple code word rather than needing to get TV coverage before using a hand sign to summon help? sound slike a load of rubbish to me. It would be a complete waste of time and effort and would risk exposure, if it were true.

they didnt do it on tv.

its eyewitness testimonies.

[howie]

A portly provincial CID chief who was plainly out of his depth and had a penchant for long, wine-fuelled lunches and leaking favourable stories about himself to the Press, he was removed as head of the investigation after six months.

And when he was later revealed to have perjured himself to cover up a brutal interrogation by members of his team, detractors scoffed that his name ought to have been spelt with an 'o', as in 'amoral'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1243596/Shes-terrifyingly-hes-boiling-rage-So-HAVE-McCanns-trial.html#ixzz0cnkGI1Rw



Start with a detailed character assassination to turn the readers opinion against him before presenting his evidence.

DM Shills...

[rodin]

It is the Masonic 'Grand Hailing Sign of Distress' This is used in extreme circumstances in which a Mason finds himself in a crisis or in a bind. In such an emergency he gives the 'Grand Hailing Sign of Distress' sometimes called the 'High Sign' so that brethren who recognise the secret sign of distress will come to the rescue. Gerry did it when the police arrived, believing they too would be Masons. The officers who turned up were baffled, but other Elitists in the Brotherhood clearly recognised this sign and duly came to the rescue.

FYI - Gordon Brown lost his first-born son before being elevated to Prime Minister and David Cameron, our next PM, also lost his firstborn son.

Maddy was not a male child, but after her death, Gerry posed the 'Due-Guard' sign on the front pages, which signals fitness for elevation to the next level.

He earned it!

I forgot about this and so did everyone else...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98505

Thus is a great post by a banned poster. A sad loss I am thinking... And I think we know why s/he was banned now...

GORDON BROWN & GERRY McCANN
-have had nice telephone chats together.

GORDON, GERRY, & CLARENCE MITCHELL
-Clarence Mitchell is the Head of Media Monitoring for the govt.
-He is also personal friend of Gerry, and has been representing Gerry
(on behalf of govt or himself? ) from the very beginning.


SARAH BROWN, JULIA HOBSBAWN, SKY NEWS, GENERAL MEDICAL COUNCIL
-Julia Hobsbawm was a partner in Hobsbawm Macaulay Communications with Sarah Macaulay, now known as Sarah Brown, the wife of British Prime Minister, Gordon Brown.

Julia Hobsbawm is now the founder and chief executive of media analysis and networking company Editorial Intelligence
http://editorialintelligence.com

And this is where it gets very interesting.

Julia Hobsbawm's new company 'Editorial Intelligence' specialises in analysing and exploiting comment and opinion in both print and online media. In simple terms, 'Editorial Intelligence' helps realise the potential of controlling the shape and fabric of public opinion and (d)ebate by controlling what is published in comment areas, forum areas, letters pages and message boards. They have even coined a new word for the online/published briTish public; they call it the 'Commentariat' (a play upon the word 'Proletariat' - orginally coined to describe the lower or working classes).

JULIA HOBSBAWN, GERRY, JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTRE, PHILIP GREEN
(Julia Hobsbawm is also a trustee of the Jewish Community Centre for London - supported by none other than Sir Philip Green - loaner of jet and reward provider to the McCanns)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=128705&postcount=8

Sarah Brown is in league with JK Rowling of the Harry Potter franchise

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1135399&postcount=22

[phildee3]

they didnt do it on tv.

its eyewitness testimonies.



Perhaps that's why you can't find it. :rolleyes:

[hadabusa]

Perhaps that's why you can't find it. :rolleyes:

duh, reconstruction by portuguese investigators.


ill trust them over the uk investigators any day.

[phildee3]

portuguese investigators.

ill trust them over the uk investigators any day.



Good for you -
if you want to be that foolish.

People are people.
There are corrupt illuminazis everywhere!

and so are decent people!

[velma]

Can you provide some evidence from a masonic source about this sign and when the McCanns supposedly used this gesture? I would be interested in seeing this.

If they were in such deep trouble and had links to people who could get them out of it then why would they need to do such a thing on the TV? why dont they just phone a friend and use a simple code word rather than needing to get TV coverage before using a hand sign to summon help? sound slike a load of rubbish to me. It would be a complete waste of time and effort and would risk exposure, if it were true.


Who says they did it on TV?

It was for the benefit of the police officers who were first to arrive at 5A, they mentioned Gerry's behaviour because they found it very strange (obviously not Masons) and Amaral included the bedroom 'Hailing' scene in his documentary, it was not televised.

The signs are in 'Codex Magica' by Texe Marrs, who includes illustrations from the official Masonic handbook.

[phildee3]

Who says they did it on TV?

It was for the benefit of the police officers who were first to arrive at 5A, they mentioned Gerry's behaviour because they found it very strange (obviously not Masons) and Amaral included the bedroom 'Hailing' scene in his documentary, it was not televised.



Talk is cheap.

Show me!!

If someone doesn't provide a link to their source,
you can be pretty sure that their source is their own asshole.

[david numen]

I don't know for certain but I think the video of Amaral's documentary is on mccannfiles.com and the scene referred to is a reconstruction of an incident he mentions in his book.

[marpat]

they didnt do it on tv.

its eyewitness testimonies.

So no real proof then except for believing 'eyewitness' testimonies? it is hardly credible evidence of anything. How can people really know what was done or seen, or whether something was seen and remembered badly?

[marpat]

Who says they did it on TV?

It was for the benefit of the police officers who were first to arrive at 5A, they mentioned Gerry's behaviour because they found it very strange (obviously not Masons) and Amaral included the bedroom 'Hailing' scene in his documentary, it was not televised.

The signs are in 'Codex Magica' by Texe Marrs, who includes illustrations from the official Masonic handbook.

So you have a reference txt but no real proof that they made the sign. No pictures of anything. Awesome, I am completely sold :rolleyes:. Of course his behaviour was going to be very strange under the circumstances. Perhaps it would have been nicer if he calmly invited people in for some tea, ffs

[carlperkins]

Hi all, great to be here.

I lived in the village of Rothley (the McCanns home village) most of my life and I (know for sure) that there is a (hidden) Knights Templar (freemasons) Lodge in the said Village, hidden deep inside the very exclusive Hotel called (the Royal Court Hotel Rothley) (the "Royal" description having been dropped some years ago)

The pope of Rome outlawed the Order of the Knights Templar back in the 13th century for Heresy, some escaped to Scotland in their "pirate ships flying the black and white skull and Bones flag" (renamed themselves) The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry as a cover organisation twined with the York Rite of freemasonry and are simply known as the (freemasons) today.

However the lodge in question (SHOULD NOT BE THERE) as the Catholics still to this day outlaw the Order of the Knights Templar?

I was privileged enough a couple of years ago (I'm not a freemason) but a freelance Cameraman, (and aquatinted with a 16th degree Mason) in "Filming" (not for public viewing) the freemasons Annual AGM in the provincial freemasons Lodge on London Rd Leicester. In the 3 hour ceremony that followed the "Knights Templar Order" and lodge in Rothley was refereed to as (the good works) and cited their Grand Provincial Master (33rd degree freemason)

Now Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann are both Scottish, is there a link between the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"(the hidden outlawed) Order of the Knights Templar in Rothley?

Are Gerry and Brown in the same (highly secret Order) "within the General secret freemasons" of which consist of 100's or so different Orders/lodges, around the country.

The "Skull and Bones" of Yale University USA who we know are the "Elite" Bush, Ragan, Nixon etc.

Is there an equivalent "Skull and Bones" in England that share the same symbology of the Original Order of the Knights Templar?

And could Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann be a part of this highly secret "Elite" Order?

In the grounds of the Court Hotel is built the "very first preceptory" (chapel or Temple) built by the Templar in England in AD 1122.

The Templars planned their first crusade from this Temple.

Later in the 17th century the "Magnicarter" was signed by William Wilberforce in the same Temple "The abolition of slavery"

King Richard the 3rd Requested he be Buried in the same grounds! but was never buried there after his death?

At the same time in the 17th century ‘Thomas McCauley’ (another Scotsman) was born in these grounds and was to become the ‘Chair of Cambridge University’ the same seat ‘Newton’ frequented.

The Templars are known for inventing Modern Medicine and the Banking system.

Gordon is head of the Government (ex chancellor) banking.

And Gerry McCann is a senior Consultant for cardiology in the (world-renowned) Glenfield Teaching hospital Leicester, medicine.

I can see that the Maddie case is a can of worms and it's ironic to me "that she is surrounded by "the illuminati".

I surmise that this whole case hinges on one Future Fact.

The Microchip.

The necessity to maintain the "Abduction Theory" is paramount in this saga and the Government will uphold that Theory to the utmost.

Microchips and medicine go hand in hand as it will be doctors that implant the chips in the children arms one would imagine.
Also it has come to light that Gerry and Kate used IVF so they could have Maddie and that Gerry wasn’t the donor, I’m getting visions of seedy scientists looking for an Aryan Mother who wants IVF to bare the offspring to a secret elite overlord so to continue the blue bloodline, I’ve heard Kate refer to Maddie as ‘the perfect child’ but behind the scenes, their is talk of a very different story, that maddie was a sleepwalker and was regularly sedated by Kate as she couldn’t cope with the twins, and that she was ‘semi autistic’. Her split retina might be due the scientists ‘tweaking the embryo’ and getting it wrong?

Maybe Maddie was abducted by the ‘men in black’ and done away with, I have read that Beltain is may 5th and that she may have been used in ritual, personally I don’t want to go there, but you never know?

Apparently Gerry is supposed to be good friends with Robert Murat and that they met when Gerry was campaigning for the Labour party in Leicester.

Also Clarence Michel has been working behind the scenes well before the McCanns went to Portugal arranging holidays to Malta, With the Tapas 7 minus the McCanns.?


Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)

Hidden in plain View as always.

Your thoughts on my article are most welcome.

PS I am Anti Mason.

This has always been one of my favourite posts I've ever read.

[reed between the lines]

Hi all, great to be here.

I lived in the village of Rothley (the McCanns home village) most of my life and I (know for sure) that there is a (hidden) Knights Templar (freemasons) Lodge in the said Village, hidden deep inside the very exclusive Hotel called (the Royal Court Hotel Rothley) (the "Royal" description having been dropped some years ago)

The pope of Rome outlawed the Order of the Knights Templar back in the 13th century for Heresy, some escaped to Scotland in their "pirate ships flying the black and white skull and Bones flag" (renamed themselves) The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry as a cover organisation twined with the York Rite of freemasonry and are simply known as the (freemasons) today.

However the lodge in question (SHOULD NOT BE THERE) as the Catholics still to this day outlaw the Order of the Knights Templar?

I was privileged enough a couple of years ago (I'm not a freemason) but a freelance Cameraman, (and aquatinted with a 16th degree Mason) in "Filming" (not for public viewing) the freemasons Annual AGM in the provincial freemasons Lodge on London Rd Leicester. In the 3 hour ceremony that followed the "Knights Templar Order" and lodge in Rothley was refereed to as (the good works) and cited their Grand Provincial Master (33rd degree freemason)

Now Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann are both Scottish, is there a link between the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"(the hidden outlawed) Order of the Knights Templar in Rothley?

Are Gerry and Brown in the same (highly secret Order) "within the General secret freemasons" of which consist of 100's or so different Orders/lodges, around the country.

The "Skull and Bones" of Yale University USA who we know are the "Elite" Bush, Ragan, Nixon etc.

Is there an equivalent "Skull and Bones" in England that share the same symbology of the Original Order of the Knights Templar?

And could Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann be a part of this highly secret "Elite" Order?

In the grounds of the Court Hotel is built the "very first preceptory" (chapel or Temple) built by the Templar in England in AD 1122.

The Templars planned their first crusade from this Temple.

Later in the 17th century the "Magnicarter" was signed by William Wilberforce in the same Temple "The abolition of slavery"

King Richard the 3rd Requested he be Buried in the same grounds! but was never buried there after his death?

At the same time in the 17th century ‘Thomas McCauley’ (another Scotsman) was born in these grounds and was to become the ‘Chair of Cambridge University’ the same seat ‘Newton’ frequented.

The Templars are known for inventing Modern Medicine and the Banking system.

Gordon is head of the Government (ex chancellor) banking.

And Gerry McCann is a senior Consultant for cardiology in the (world-renowned) Glenfield Teaching hospital Leicester, medicine.

I can see that the Maddie case is a can of worms and it's ironic to me "that she is surrounded by "the illuminati".

I surmise that this whole case hinges on one Future Fact.

The Microchip.

The necessity to maintain the "Abduction Theory" is paramount in this saga and the Government will uphold that Theory to the utmost.

Microchips and medicine go hand in hand as it will be doctors that implant the chips in the children arms one would imagine.
Also it has come to light that Gerry and Kate used IVF so they could have Maddie and that Gerry wasn’t the donor, I’m getting visions of seedy scientists looking for an Aryan Mother who wants IVF to bare the offspring to a secret elite overlord so to continue the blue bloodline, I’ve heard Kate refer to Maddie as ‘the perfect child’ but behind the scenes, their is talk of a very different story, that maddie was a sleepwalker and was regularly sedated by Kate as she couldn’t cope with the twins, and that she was ‘semi autistic’. Her split retina might be due the scientists ‘tweaking the embryo’ and getting it wrong?

Maybe Maddie was abducted by the ‘men in black’ and done away with, I have read that Beltain is may 5th and that she may have been used in ritual, personally I don’t want to go there, but you never know?

Apparently Gerry is supposed to be good friends with Robert Murat and that they met when Gerry was campaigning for the Labour party in Leicester.

Also Clarence Michel has been working behind the scenes well before the McCanns went to Portugal arranging holidays to Malta, With the Tapas 7 minus the McCanns.?


Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)

Hidden in plain View as always.

Your thoughts on my article are most welcome.

PS I am Anti Mason.

yes free masons have been on my back from a small child ,they are abusers and they probubly do sacrefice children then blame other kids for the death . the police in wales cover up for paedophile freemason farmers and shopkeepers ,as many police are free masons . its a sad world we are living in ,and we need a revolution in this country to get rid of the free masons for good. they remind me of the sith lord in star wars episode 1 2 and 3 . in power pretending to be good and caring .

[elcribbo]

Now Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann are both Scottish, is there a link between the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"(the hidden outlawed) Order of the Knights Templar in Rothley?

Both Scottish you say? Well, that clinches it. They managed to keep that quiet, didn't they? Guilty. String 'em up. And while we're about it let's see if we can't get an angry mob round to the Krankies' house. I have it on good authority that they're Scottish, so they were more than likely involved as well.

Later in the 17th century the "Magnicarter" was signed by William Wilberforce in the same Temple "The abolition of slavery"

That statement is 100% accurate. Except that the Magna Carter was signed in the 13th Century by King John in Runnymede (and he didn't even sign it, he put his seal on it). And it had nothing to do with William Wilberforce, who wasn't born for about another 500 years. But apart from that you're spot on.

King Richard the 3rd Requested he be Buried in the same grounds! but was never buried there after his death?

At the same time in the 17th century ‘Thomas McCauley’ (another Scotsman) was born in these grounds and was to become the ‘Chair of Cambridge University’ the same seat ‘Newton’ frequented.

The Templars are known for inventing Modern Medicine and the Banking system.

Gordon is head of the Government (ex chancellor) banking.

And Gerry McCann is a senior Consultant for cardiology in the (world-renowned) Glenfield Teaching hospital Leicester, medicine.

I can see that the Maddie case is a can of worms and it's ironic to me "that she is surrounded by "the illuminati".

I surmise that this whole case hinges on one Future Fact.

The Microchip.

The necessity to maintain the "Abduction Theory" is paramount in this saga and the Government will uphold that Theory to the utmost.

Microchips and medicine go hand in hand as it will be doctors that implant the chips in the children arms one would imagine.
Also it has come to light that Gerry and Kate used IVF so they could have Maddie and that Gerry wasn’t the donor, I’m getting visions of seedy scientists looking for an Aryan Mother who wants IVF to bare the offspring to a secret elite overlord so to continue the blue bloodline, I’ve heard Kate refer to Maddie as ‘the perfect child’ but behind the scenes, their is talk of a very different story, that maddie was a sleepwalker and was regularly sedated by Kate as she couldn’t cope with the twins, and that she was ‘semi autistic’. Her split retina might be due the scientists ‘tweaking the embryo’ and getting it wrong?

Maybe Maddie was abducted by the ‘men in black’ and done away with, I have read that Beltain is may 5th and that she may have been used in ritual, personally I don’t want to go there, but you never know?

Apparently Gerry is supposed to be good friends with Robert Murat and that they met when Gerry was campaigning for the Labour party in Leicester.

Also Clarence Michel has been working behind the scenes well before the McCanns went to Portugal arranging holidays to Malta, With the Tapas 7 minus the McCanns.?


Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)

Hidden in plain View as always.

Your thoughts on my article are most welcome.

PS I am Anti Mason.

So by starting with the information that Gerry McCann is Scottish you've woven an entire theory based on nothing but fantasy and a poor knowledge of history? Thanks for your contribution.

[magic7]

Hi all, great to be here.

I lived in the village of Rothley (the McCanns home village) most of my life and I (know for sure) that there is a (hidden) Knights Templar (freemasons) Lodge in the said Village, hidden deep inside the very exclusive Hotel called (the Royal Court Hotel Rothley) (the "Royal" description having been dropped some years ago)

The pope of Rome outlawed the Order of the Knights Templar back in the 13th century for Heresy, some escaped to Scotland in their "pirate ships flying the black and white skull and Bones flag" (renamed themselves) The Scottish Rite of Freemasonry as a cover organisation twined with the York Rite of freemasonry and are simply known as the (freemasons) today.

However the lodge in question (SHOULD NOT BE THERE) as the Catholics still to this day outlaw the Order of the Knights Templar?

I was privileged enough a couple of years ago (I'm not a freemason) but a freelance Cameraman, (and aquatinted with a 16th degree Mason) in "Filming" (not for public viewing) the freemasons Annual AGM in the provincial freemasons Lodge on London Rd Leicester. In the 3 hour ceremony that followed the "Knights Templar Order" and lodge in Rothley was refereed to as (the good works) and cited their Grand Provincial Master (33rd degree freemason)

Now Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann are both Scottish, is there a link between the "Scottish Rite of Freemasonry"(the hidden outlawed) Order of the Knights Templar in Rothley?

Are Gerry and Brown in the same (highly secret Order) "within the General secret freemasons" of which consist of 100's or so different Orders/lodges, around the country.

The "Skull and Bones" of Yale University USA who we know are the "Elite" Bush, Ragan, Nixon etc.

Is there an equivalent "Skull and Bones" in England that share the same symbology of the Original Order of the Knights Templar?

And could Gordon Brown and Gerry McCann be a part of this highly secret "Elite" Order?

In the grounds of the Court Hotel is built the "very first preceptory" (chapel or Temple) built by the Templar in England in AD 1122.

The Templars planned their first crusade from this Temple.

Later in the 17th century the "Magnicarter" was signed by William Wilberforce in the same Temple "The abolition of slavery"

King Richard the 3rd Requested he be Buried in the same grounds! but was never buried there after his death?

At the same time in the 17th century ‘Thomas McCauley’ (another Scotsman) was born in these grounds and was to become the ‘Chair of Cambridge University’ the same seat ‘Newton’ frequented.

The Templars are known for inventing Modern Medicine and the Banking system.

Gordon is head of the Government (ex chancellor) banking.

And Gerry McCann is a senior Consultant for cardiology in the (world-renowned) Glenfield Teaching hospital Leicester, medicine.

I can see that the Maddie case is a can of worms and it's ironic to me "that she is surrounded by "the illuminati".

I surmise that this whole case hinges on one Future Fact.

The Microchip.

The necessity to maintain the "Abduction Theory" is paramount in this saga and the Government will uphold that Theory to the utmost.

Microchips and medicine go hand in hand as it will be doctors that implant the chips in the children arms one would imagine.
Also it has come to light that Gerry and Kate used IVF so they could have Maddie and that Gerry wasn’t the donor, I’m getting visions of seedy scientists looking for an Aryan Mother who wants IVF to bare the offspring to a secret elite overlord so to continue the blue bloodline, I’ve heard Kate refer to Maddie as ‘the perfect child’ but behind the scenes, their is talk of a very different story, that maddie was a sleepwalker and was regularly sedated by Kate as she couldn’t cope with the twins, and that she was ‘semi autistic’. Her split retina might be due the scientists ‘tweaking the embryo’ and getting it wrong?

Maybe Maddie was abducted by the ‘men in black’ and done away with, I have read that Beltain is may 5th and that she may have been used in ritual, personally I don’t want to go there, but you never know?

Apparently Gerry is supposed to be good friends with Robert Murat and that they met when Gerry was campaigning for the Labour party in Leicester.

Also Clarence Michel has been working behind the scenes well before the McCanns went to Portugal arranging holidays to Malta, With the Tapas 7 minus the McCanns.?


Just a play on words to finish?

"Scott free" is a well known saying... getting off Scott free.

How about (Scott - free - masons)

Hidden in plain View as always.

Your thoughts on my article are most welcome.

PS I am Anti Mason.

haha, this is great stuff. I hope the OP has a sense of humour. Couldn't make it up!

[carlperkins]

Okay, so it may be easy to find mistakes and faults in the OP but the accuracy of it is not the whole point. it is clearly a mixture of fact and meandering thoughts. The factual parts are really interesting and the meandering thoughts are imaginative and may be just linking vague patterns together that may or may not exist. The research I did at the time about the knights templar as a result of this proved useful. It is the OP's only contribution to this site ever.

[magic7]

Okay, so it may be easy to find mistakes and faults in the OP but the accuracy of it is not the whole point. it is clearly a mixture of fact and meandering thoughts. The factual parts are really interesting and the meandering thoughts are imaginative and may be just linking vague patterns together that may or may not exist. The research I did at the time about the knights templar as a result of this proved useful. It is the OP's only contribution to this site ever.

At least it was a meaningful one, haha. Seriously, the OP is clearly a child, so let's not get too carried away with the criticism:D

[col kilgore]

I hope you're not taking Shrimptons intel fantasies seriously......

The DVD are supposed to be ruthless and efficient, seems like it was bloody amateur week. I've seen better planned kidnap Ops done by Noddy.

CK

[carlperkins]

bump

[bird]

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Among other things you’ll find in this leaflet:

· The major contradictions in the statements of the McCanns and friends
· The highly trained British police dogs who detected the scent of a corpse
· Strange things the McCanns have said and done
· How the McCanns wasted public money on useless private detectives

Can we be sure that Madeleine McCann really was abducted by a stranger?

Please take a careful look at these facts about the case, which you won’t find in any of our mainstream media. And if you are concerned about the contents of this leaflet, please copy and pass on to your friends and contacts.

SECTION A. What happened before and after Madeleine was reported missing?

1. The McCanns originally claimed they found the shutters and window of the children’s room open. They ’phoned relatives that night saying: ‘An abductor broke in and took Madeleine’. But when police and the managers of the complex declared there was no sign of forced entry, they changed their story, saying they must have left the patio doors open. The window had been cleaned the day before. Only Kate McCann’s fingerprints were found on the window.

2. The McCanns gave different accounts of whether they were both with Madeleine at tea-time on the day Madeleine was reported missing - and gave three different versions of who read the children bedtime stories the night Madeleine was reported missing: (a) Kate (b) Gerry or (c) they both did.

3. Kate McCann said that their friend Dr David Payne knocked on the front door of their apartment at about 6.30pm on 3 May, but was immediately sent away without ever entering. Dr Payne, however, said he came in, saw all three children dressed ready for bed, and stayed for at least several minutes.

4. The McCanns said the children were in their pyjamas by 6.30pm the night Madeleine disappeared, were bathed at 7.00pm and asleep by 7.30pm. But just a few weeks later, in his blog, Gerry McCann wrote: “The twins must like their new cots as they were asleep by 7.30pm which was most unusual”.

5. Dr Matthew Oldfield claimed he and his wife arrived at the Tapas bar at 8.55pm, but then went back to the Paynes’ apartment to chase them up as they were late. Dr Russell O’Brien confirmed that: “Matt, around 9pm, got up and said ‘I’ll go and drag them out’.” The Paynes flatly contradicted this.

6. Dr Matthew Oldfield changed his story several times. He said he did one ‘check’ on the children, then said he’d done two. He changed his story about the 2nd check, first saying that he walked by the McCanns’ apartment, later saying he’d entered it. Dr Kate McCann claimed Dr Oldfield said, at 9.30pm: “I’ll check on Maddie for you”. Why didn’t he say: “I’ll check on the children?”

7. The McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner insisted she’d seen someone carrying a child close to the McCanns’ apartment at 9.15pm the evening she was reported missing. But she changed her description of this person several times. Later, one of the McCanns’ detectives said she might have seen a woman, not a man. She claimed that when she saw this man, she walked past Gerry McCann and a friend, Jez Wilkins. But neither of them could remember seeing her.

8. Instead of looking for Madeleine, two friends of the McCanns tore off the cover of Madeleine’s Activity Sticker Book, writing down what they claimed was a record of the night’s events. They then wrote out a second timeline of what they said happened. In both versions, they said Jane Tanner had seen an abductor around 9.15pm. But she did not tell the McCanns what she had seen for 24 hours.

9. The McCanns claimed they were dining yards from their children, said they could see their room, and said it was ‘just like being in your back garden’. In truth, the children’s room was 120 yards away and the children’s room was on the far side of the apartment block and they couldn’t see their room.
10. Gerry McCann on 4 May (the day after Madeleine went missing) said: “Yesterday, Madeleine and and the twins were put to bed in their respective beds at 7.30pm”. Yet when the police arrived at about 11.00pm, they found a bed where Madeleine was supposed to have slept and two cots. Moreover, in a magazine interview in January 2008, Gerry McCann said: “On one bed the twins lay sleeping.

11. The McCanns said Madeleine and younger brother Sean were crying on their own the night before she was reported missing. Yet they left all three children on their own again the very next night.

12. Gerry McCann claimed that a senior Social Services official had told him: “Your child care was well within the bounds of responsible parenting”. He has never said who that was.

13. The McCanns, when asked a simple question as to whether they had given the children Calpol or other sedatives the night Madeleine was reported missing, denied on TV ever giving their children Calpol or other sedatives. But Kate McCann’s father confirmed that they did give the children Calpol.

14. The McCanns said: “Madeleine does not like to be called Maddie and does not answer to Maddie”. But Gerry McCann called her ‘Maddie’ on Friends Reunited, the twins called her ‘Maddie’, and their relatives and friends called her ‘Maddie’. A long list of examples is at www.mcannfiles.com

15. Kate McCann said that when she went to their apartment at 10.00pm on 3 May, she was 100% sure that Madeleine had been ‘taken’. But the McCanns allowed their 7 friends, several staff from the Ocean Club, and others, to traipse all round their apartment, thus contaminating a crime scene where vital forensic evidence could have been found. The police found no forensic trace of any abductor.

16. On the night Madeleine was reported missing, two sets of police arrived, the local GNR, and then the national force, the PJ. On the first occasion, Gerry McCann fell down on his knees, spreading out his arms on the ground, rather like a Muslim at prayer. On the second occasion, both Gerry and Kate McCann repeated that same strange gesture, on the double bed in their apartment, in front of the PJ.

17. On 4 May, the day after Madeleine went missing, the McCanns were returning to Praia da Luz. The police seized CCTV film at a petrol station, showing a girl similar to Madeleine with two adults. The police asked the McCanns to return to Portimão, but Kate McCann became irritated at being asked to visit the police station again. The police said she showed no hope Madeleine could be found.

18. In a BBC TV interview, Kate McCann admitted that she had never spent any time at all physically looking for Madeleine.

19. The Portuguese police were told by British police: “The McCanns have no credit or ATM cards”. But their flights to Portugal and hire of a Renault Scenic in Portugal were paid with credit cards. Then Gerry McCann admitted having credit cards, saying they went missing after his wallet was stolen. He gave two different places where his wallet was stolen: Waterloo Station - or ‘near Downing Street’.

20. After she was taken in for questioning on 7 September, Kate McCann was asked 48 questions by the Portuguese police. She refused to answer any of them. She was asked if she realised that she was hindering the investigation by refusing to answer questions. She said: “Yes, if that’s what the investigation thinks”. Their official spokesman, former head of Labour’s Media Unit, Clarence Mitchell, stated: “The McCanns were fully within their rights not to co-operate”.

21. Mitchell was appointed the McCanns’ spokesman by former Prime Minister Tony Blair. Mitchell once boasted that as the £75,000-a-year Head of Unit, his job was ‘to control what comes out in the media’. When Mitchell’s post with the McCanns became part-time, he immediately landed a job with Freud Communications, owned and managed by Rupert Murdoch’s son-in-law, Matthew Freud.

22. The McCanns said publicly in August 2007: “We will take a lie detector test at any time”. Then a newspaper offered to pay for one. They then changed their mind and said they wouldn’t.

23. Some months after they returned to England, the McCanns and their friends were asked by Portuguese police to take part in a reconstruction of the events of 3 May 2007. They all refused.

24. When asked by a Portuguese journalist from Sol to give some details about Madeleine’s abduction, the McCanns’ friend Dr David Payne said: “This is our matter only. We have a pact of silence. All comments must go through Gerry McCann”.
25. The McCanns’ friends gave three different versions of how often they were supposedly checking the children - hourly, half-hourly and ‘every 15 minutes’.

26. The Portuguese police did not believe that the McCanns’ friend Jane Tanner was telling the truth about the abductor she claimed to have seen. Following a series of mobile ’phone conversations between Gerry McCann and former Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Brown pressurised the Portuguese authorities to allow Gerry McCann himself to release a description based on Tanner’s dubious claims.

27. The Home Office refused the Portuguese police permission to examine the McCanns’ credit card and bank statements, mobile ’phone records and Madeleine’s medical records.

28. Gordon Brown was told that Portuguese detective Mr Amaral, who took the McCanns in for questioning, would be removed from his post before he himself was informed.

SECTION B. The evidence of the cadaver dogs

29. On British police advice, the Portuguese asked top dog handler Martin Grime to bring his springer spaniels, Eddie and Keela, to Praia da Luz. Eddie is trained to detect the scent of human corpses; Keela is a bloodhound. Eddie had never given a false alert in over 200 previous outings. He alerted to the odour of a human corpse in these locations: four different places in the McCanns’ apartment, two of Dr Kate McCann’s clothes, one of the children’s T-shirts, on the pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’, and in two places in the car the McCanns hired. Eddie did not alert to a corpse scent anywhere else in Praia da Luz. Keela detected blood, which may have been Madeleine’s blood, at some of these places.

30. When they heard about the dogs’ findings, the McCanns reacted strangely, claiming that…
· The ‘smell of death’ may have been found on Kate’s clothes because she was said to have been close to six corpses in her last two weeks at work, on the pink soft toy ‘Cuddle Cat’ because she ‘sometimes took Cuddle Cat to work’, or that the ‘smell of death’ could have come from rotting meat that Gerry McCann was taking to the local rubbish dump from time to time
· If Madeleine’s DNA, were to be found in the boot of their car, it may have come from the children’s dirty nappies they claimed they were carrying in the boot
· Any blood found in the flat might have come from Madeleine ‘grazing her leg’ or suffering a nosebleed. In fact, with the help of Martin Grime’s bloodhound, the police found blood underneath the tiles below a window in the living room of the McCanns’ apartment.

31. The McCanns also claimed that sniffer dogs were ‘notoriously unreliable’. They quoted a U.S. case where a cadaver dog’s alert was said to be wrong. Months later, the dog’s alert was proved right.

32. In 2008, a Portuguese TV interviewer asked: “How can you explain the scent of cadaver found by the British dogs?” Kate McCann replied: “Maybe you should ask the judiciary. They have examined all evidence”. When the interviewer pressed Kate McCann for an explanation, Gerry McCann intervened, smirking, and replied: “Ask the dogs, Sandra”.

33. When the McCanns moved from their apartment to a villa in Praia da Luz, a neighbour saw their car boot left open all night long. A relative of the McCanns, Michael Wright, admitted to police that this was because of a horrible smell in the car. This was the same car where Eddie, the cadaver dog, alerted to the smell of a corpse.

34. Kate McCann clutched ‘Cuddle Cat’ in front of TV cameras, claiming it reminded her of Madeleine, and was ‘comforting’. Yet shortly before the sniffer dogs arrived, she washed Cuddle Cat, claiming it ‘smelled of sun tan lotion’. This would make forensic analysis of it much harder.

SECTION C. Strange things the McCanns have said and done

35. The McCanns ignored police advice not to publicise Madeleine’s distinctive mark in her right eye, a ‘coloboma’. They said that if she was with an abductor, it could place her life in danger. On 15 July 2009, Gerry McCann said: “We thought it was possible that publicising her coloboma could harm Madeleine. Her abductor might do something to her eye. But in marketing terms it was a good ploy”.

36. Kate McCann, in 2007, said: “I know that what happened is not due to the fact of us leaving the children asleep. I know it happened under other circumstances”.
37. On 3 June 2007, Gerry McCann said: “We want a big event to raise awareness she is still missing…It won’t be a one-year anniversary, it will be sooner than that”. On 28 June, he said: “I have no doubt we will be able to sustain a high profile for Madeleine’s disappearance in the long-term”.

38. On 11 December 2009, Gerry McCann said: “There is no evidence that we were involved in Madeleine’s death”. The previous year, the McCanns’ spokesman said: “Can I suggest you actually quote me accurately. I said: ‘I believe Kate and Gerry are not responsible for Madeleine’s death’.”

39. On 24 August 2007, Gerry McCann, in a Scottish TV interview, said: “In fact, one of the slight positives in all of this is that there is so much rumour about what did and didn't happen, it's actually very difficult, if you're reading the newspapers, watching TV, to know what is true and what's not”.

40. Asked to comment on his reaction at learning that Madeleine had been abducted, Dr Gerald McCann said: ‘It was like being told you were overdrawn on your student loan”.

41. Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns’ spokesman, said in September 2007: “There is a wholly innocent explanation for any material the police may or may not have found”.

42. Unlike most couples who lose a dear child, they did not cling to their other two children. Others cared for them while they flew round the world to meet the Pope, visit the U.S. and do TV interviews.

43. As with all of us, the McCanns’ body language may yield valuable clues. During TV interviews, the following conduct has been observed: avoiding eye contact, nervous twitching, tense facial expressions, shaking their heads while making various assertions, and touching or scratching their faces at difficult moments. They were seen smiling and laughing on what would have been Madeleine’s 4th birthday, just 10 days after she went missing. Many people say they have not seen evidence of the grief that couples would normally express if they had lost a much-loved daughter.

SECTION D. The Fund and the McCanns’ private detectives

44. Only 13% of the McCanns’ Find Madeleine Fund has been spent on searching for Madeleine. The Fund is a private company, not a charity. Much of it has been used on the McCanns’ legal expenses.

45. The first detectives the McCanns employed were the highly controversial Spanish group Metodo 3. Just before Christmas 2007, their boss, Francisco Marco, boasted his men were ‘closing in on Madeleine’s kidnappers’, promising ‘Madeleine will be home by Christmas’. These were lies.

46. Next, the McCanns turned to a private investigator called Kevin Halligen, who has various aliases. He set up a one-man company called Oakley International, formed after Madeleine disappeared. Yet the McCanns’ spokesman claimed Oakley were ‘the big boys’ in international private detection. The McCanns are said to have paid Halligen £500,000, which he squandered on high living and hard drinking, achieving nothing. At present (January 2011), he has been in Belmarsh High Security Prison over a year, awaiting extradition to the U.S., where he is required to answer $2 million fraud charges.

47. All the main ‘private investigation’ agencies used by the McCanns had expertise in such areas as money-laundering, fraud, state security and intelligence - not in finding missing children.

48. The McCanns have produced 16 different artists’ impressions of suspects, ‘persons of interest’ and ‘persons we wish to eliminate from our enquiries’. Yet despite their spending millions of pounds, we, the public, know nothing whatsoever about who is supposed to have abducted Madeleine.

49. The McCanns took legal action to ban Mr Amaral’s book on the case: ‘The Truth About A Lie’. They succeeded in September 2009. But in October 2010 the Portuguese Appeal Court lifted that ban. The McCanns are carrying on with their libel action against Mr Amaral, using their Fund to do so.

50. The McCanns said late last year that their Fund was ‘running low’, and that the Fund ‘might run out of money soon’. Yet at the same moment, they were negotiating a multi-million pound book deal.

Published by ‘The Madeleine McCann Research Group’
24 February 2011

Further reading:

www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk
http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/
www.mccannfiles.com
http://jillhavern.**********.net/
www.madeleinefoundation.org.uk

And watch the Portuguese detective’s documentary: www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxGhlYTNisw

[carlperkins]

Good post Bird. This is one of the fundamental problems with Freemasons in our society, ie we, the public, are not allowed to see their membership lists or minutes, it's all a big fat secret for secret pervs. So we are left with research, conspiracy theories and wild speculation. I say let those lists be public, what are they hiding.

[razorbill]

SECTION B. The evidence of the cadaver dogs

29. On British police advice, the Portuguese asked top dog handler Martin Grime to bring his springer spaniels, Eddie and Keela, to Praia da Luz. Eddie is trained to detect the scent of human corpses; Keela is a bloodhound. Eddie had never given a false alert in over 200 previous outings. He alerted to the odour of a human corpse in these locations: four different places in the McCanns’ apartment, two of Dr Kate McCann’s clothes, one of the children’s T-shirts, on the pink soft toy, ‘Cuddle Cat’, and in two places in the car the McCanns hired. Eddie did not alert to a corpse scent anywhere else in Praia da Luz. Keela detected blood, which may have been Madeleine’s blood, at some of these places.

30. When they heard about the dogs’ findings, the McCanns reacted strangely, claiming that…
· The ‘smell of death’ may have been found on Kate’s clothes because she was said to have been close to six corpses in her last two weeks at work, on the pink soft toy ‘Cuddle Cat’ because she ‘sometimes took Cuddle Cat to work’, or that the ‘smell of death’ could have come from rotting meat that Gerry McCann was taking to the local rubbish dump from time to time
· If Madeleine’s DNA, were to be found in the boot of their car, it may have come from the children’s dirty nappies they claimed they were carrying in the boot
· Any blood found in the flat might have come from Madeleine ‘grazing her leg’ or suffering a nosebleed. In fact, with the help of Martin Grime’s bloodhound, the police found blood underneath the tiles below a window in the living room of the McCanns’ apartment.

31. The McCanns also claimed that sniffer dogs were ‘notoriously unreliable’. They quoted a U.S. case where a cadaver dog’s alert was said to be wrong. Months later, the dog’s alert was proved right.

I must say that the chapter about the sniffer dogs has convinced me that this is a big cover-up. Having worked with dogs for years I very much appreciate their abilities, and most of all: dogs don't lie.

[thentherewere4]

Well I suppose someone somewhere had to pick up this thread at some time or another. So rather than let this thread hang in perp with no particular place to go here goes.....................

......in order to proceed this thread must define the threat Freemasonry presents to democracy. Without definition there is no clarity of purpose or thought. The first question one might ask is what is this a cult that requires 'regulation' and can anybody put forward a series of rational explanations as to why the 'Craft' without regulation has not come about?

Here are my suggestions as to why Freemasonry has a very real need of 'regulation'. Freemasonry is regulated as it must be regulated. Regulation of the 'Craft' ensures 3 objectives:

1. Regulation ensures the survival of Freemasonry.

2. Regulation guarantees the secrets of Freemasons remain secret - a different proposition to No1.

3. Regulation prevents Freemasonry from falling into chaos.

Although the Freemasons achieve chaos this must not be thought of as a reason for its own existence.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6316/johnhill040507withfreem.jpg
John Hill manager of the Ocean Club at Praia Da Luz standing in the carpark whilst behind his hand the police forensics specialists can be glimpsed removing Kate McCanns fingerprints from the exterior of the 'smashed shutters' to the childrens bedroom. Date: May the 4th 2007 - the morning after Madeleine McCann was 'disappeared'.

The Freemasons sole purpose in existence is straightforward in the extreme. It is an organisation founded on the accumulation and retention of enormous personal wealth. In short its primary purpose is to extract money and financial gain by whatever means necessary, solely for themselves and their Brothers at the expense of all others. This primary purpose is the rational that underpins all the actions and deeds of Freemasons everywhere.

Freemasons long ago realised the fearful potency their devious works could achieve in a democracy. It is this combination of primary purpose when combined with the tactics of democratic exclusion and brotherly commitment when ruthlessly employed is so powerful a tool.

This is just one series of reasons democracy and true democrats shun Freemasonry and the presence of Freemasons in the debating chamber.

On a more cautious note it is perhaps also worth considering we all as individuals and not as members of some collective or political amalgam might well also find reason so to do.



PS: To the OP - are we to believe you witnessed over 3hrs of masonic ceremony at London Road - a PGL - and you are not a freemason?

[carlperkins]

How strange, I just did a search on google for "Freemason Gerald Patrick McCann". I must have missed this in the news, it seems as if he was a mason after all. Is there a provable link for this accusation yet?

[lightgiver]

Richard Nixon. According to Avro Manhattan's book The Vatican Billions (Chino, CA: Chick Publications, 1983): 227, "One of Nixon's main speech writers during three whole years was a Jesuit father, the Rev. John McLaughlin, who wrote the Nixon speeches at a salary of $32,000 a year."

It is common practice for Popes to be paedophiles (The current Pope is not a paedophile. He is ex-Hitler Youth which happened to be led by a paedophile. This is an important distinction and the Spymaster wants it made). One has to be manipulated into a top position, and to do that there has to be a huge amount of dirt on that person, known only by a select group of power brokers. Paedophilia is the preferred dirt as it is easily photographed, easily presented in a range of media, immensely shameful, the public demands your resignation, and it is easily arranged amongst Catholics, making them power brokers in some very influential, financial, and dubious deals, unlimited in scope.

The Second Coming - Part 2/16 - YouTube
http://youtu.be/lIgaKd_gdjk

......"Pope John Paul I [26 August-29 September 1978] had nothing to hide [no paedophilia] and ordered the Vatican Books to be opened. When the chief of the IRA heard this, he jumped up like he'd been stung, saying, 'Oh my God, the Pope's just committed suicide'. He rang the Vatican straight away and demanded passports for his men go to the top of the pile. "The IRA routinely travel on Vatican passports which are diplomatic documents describing the priest's urgent mission. They are written on vellum [calfskin or goatskin pelts] and say, 'Whoever impedes or obstructs this priest in his urgent mission work shall be consigned to the fires of hell and burn there for ever and ever'." This holds a lot of power in Catholic countries like France, Belgium and Italy. Authorities will turn a blind eye to a stack of heat-seeking missiles if you are travelling under Papal Bulls - after all, many of those who carry them are killers on a mission for the Catholic Church.

"The IRA got their paperwork back and the following day I went down to the dairy to get the paper and the headline read, 'The Pope Dies, Great Shock'. He was in office only 33 days. p.178 How To Take Over the World. A Right Royal Con by Greg Hallett & Spymaster.

One of the most delicate questions surrounding the wicked child abuse by Irish Catholic clergy, brothers and nuns is this: how much of the abuse was Irish and how much of it was Catholic?

The 139 Missing Children In Ireland ...

There Are Currently 139 Missing Children In Ireland.(Some Of Which Are Adults Now But Went Missing When They Were Under The Age Of 18) . Although these children appear to not be Irish, they all went missing from Ireland where they all were living.

The 139 Missing Children In Ireland - YouTube
http://youtu.be/R_ItEncJm4A

http://www.whale.to/b/jesuits_q.html

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/9918669/The_latest_child_abuse_scandal_is_as_Irish_as_it_i s_Catholic/

http://ie.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PublicHomeServlet

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=157122

[rodin]

Jews have an 'Old Testament' (faked) tradition of sacrificing their first-born. Freemasonry is Jewish,.

When three-year-old Madeleine McCann disappeared she was alone with her younger siblings in a ground floor holiday apartment rented by her parents.

http://www.vernoncoleman.com/mccann.htm

[lightgiver]

Jews have an 'Old Testament' (faked) tradition of sacrificing their first-born.



What a load of BS...

[thentherewere4]

BS

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3223/maddieslepttakenbs.jpg

If you want BS you can do no better than TeamMcCann*.



*TeamMcCann - Because truth doesn't always need to mean a thing.

[marpat]

If you want BS, you can do no better than threads like this, the creations of sick minds

[thentherewere4]

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8895/gerrysick.jpg

Yeah, they just can't seem to understand what any of this is all about.

[whale]

Jehovah's Witnesses have nothing to do with the masons. Atheist & Satanist would be a contradiction in terms. Atheist by definition do not believe in gods, therefore they don't believe in Satan!

same bunch of satanists, Masons and JWs both use the Cross and Crown symbol, and winged Sun-Disk symbols http://www.whale.to/c/jehovahs_witnesses.html

[marpat]

same bunch of satanists, Masons and JWs both use the Cross and Crown symbol, and winged Sun-Disk symbols http://www.whale.to/c/jehovahs_witnesses.html

What a vague attack on a wide group of people. Not all masonic orders use the cross, crown or winged disk symbols. Only christian based masonic order use such symbols as the cross, etc. such as the AASR and Templars.

[lightgiver]

Yeah, they just can't seem to understand what any of this is all about.

Do you understand Mr Judge...How sad and pathetic...do you understand how many children go missing each year..why don't you harp on about that ,why single these people out...

I am challenging the forum members to this issue. How many children go missing each year? And what happens to them? How come there is not one single universal figure that everyone can agree on? Do you not find that strange? Are the kids charities and law enforcement conspiring to hide the true horrifying numbers?


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=157122

[marpat]

Do you understand Mr Judge...How sad and pathetic...do you understand how many children go missing each year..why don't you harp on about that ,why single these people out...

I am challenging the forum members to this issue. How many children go missing each year? And what happens to them? How come there is not one single universal figure that everyone can agree on? Do you not find that strange? Are the kids charities and law enforcement conspiring to hide the true horrifying numbers?


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=157122

If you look at the statistics for missing children, many do go missing but nearly all are accounted for within a short period of time.

Dont you think that if so many children were going missing each year and not reutrning home that it would become very apparent that something was going on? also, Icke writes about secret breeding programs where babies are born purely to be killed, so if such is true then why risk exposure through child abduction?

[thentherewere4]

Whilst the McCanns were in Portugal awaiting suspect status and being interrogated it seems the Brotherhood had a real problem making contact with them. The McCanns let it be known they were convinced, as well they might, their phone and electronic communications were being monitored by some members of the PJ. It later transpired that on this topic of police intelligence the McCanns were as usual 100% correct.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2055/gerrymeetsthemasons.jpg
On the 7th of September Gerry McCann drove his wife to the police station at Portimao for an interrogation session that was to last over 11hours. with Trish McCann, Gerrys sister was chaperone for Kate that day at the police station and according to Trish a woman who later was caught out lying for the McCanns, there were no breaks during the interview and Kate wasn't allowed any refreshments.

Just before this interview the McCanns let it be known to the press they were about to be made suspects. It seems the McCanns, as ever, had advance knowledge the PJ were about to be make them suspects in their daughters manslaughter. This they said was about to happen at some future time, possibly during or shortly after Kate's interview.

As always the McCanns intelligence machine was proven to be 100% right, as barely 24hrs after this crucial interview the PJ made their move and elevated the McCanns status to official supsects in the case.

So how was it the McCanns gained access to such sensitive police information and how could anyone having gained such knowledge and then have made the McCanns aware of the dire change in direction the police investigation was about to make.

For a Freemason to obtain such knowledge or information in order to help his Brother is more easy that childs play. For a Fremason it is only ever a question of asking, but as to how that information was to be transmitted to the McCanns posed some real problems as the McCanns could not be directly contacted by any of the normal means.

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6314/gerrysfanclub7.jpg
The McCanns received their coded messages of support in what is for Freemasons one of their universal and most easily understood means of communication - through simple signs. Gerry McCann dropped off Kate and Trish and then turned to stare at the group of seven men gathered on the pavement. Gerry looked on for some few seconds at the group of middle aged men before getting back into the car and driving away.

The seven men appeared anxious to be seen by Gerry and to that end the man at the front, the leader of their group, wore the high contrast Freemason regalia of black and white. This straighforward colour scheme is not one that is all that unfamiliar to the McCanns themselves.

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/985/23june07gerrycommunicat.jpg
In this picture taken on the 23rd of June Gerry McCann is seen reinforcing his own personal message of communication with a vivid image of a more traditional type of passing information - a mobile phone. Considering the technique employed by Gerry and the group of masons it can only be that for those who can see the sign the message itself is plain enough.

The sign made the signal understood and Gerry McCann returned to wait for the return of his wife fully confident all would eventually, if somewhat a little belatedly, turn out well both for him and his wife if not for his daughter Madeleine.

[lightgiver]

If you look at the statistics for missing children, many do go missing but nearly all are accounted for within a short period of time.



Do you have the statistics ...I don't hear of them being accounted for...

India's missing children...Hundreds of thousands of destitute children disappear every year. Here is the story of ONE.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/india/090323/indias-missing-children

[thentherewere4]

:)Statistics have never been quite so interesting.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5812/bingoh.jpg

This is what a 100% probability looks like.

[lightgiver]

:)Statistics have never been quite so interesting.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5812/bingoh.jpg

This is what a 100% probability looks like.

Yeah right...

Vicars wear black and white as well...


The seven men appeared anxious to be seen by Gerry and to that end the man at the front, the leader of their group, wore the high contrast Freemason regalia of black and white. This straighforward colour scheme is not one that is all that unfamiliar to the McCanns themselves.


http://www.joke.co.uk/black-and-white-costumes/

[thentherewere4]

How can anyone be sure the message would get through? That day Gerry drove the lefthand drive car and the masons had all gathered on the left hand side pavement. So far so good but it was a message of support for Kates upcoming interview and Gerry had to be certain his wife, from her position in the car, had seen exactly what he had seen.

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No problem. In the moments before Kate set off on her long walk to the police station the McCanns gathered together around the back of the car. Gerry eased a little closer to Kate and gently put his arm about her but not on her. A kiss was now in the wings but before the all important kiss there was a micro moment of street theatre of another sort.

In a trice Gerry stood shock still. He didn't move a muscle and he didn't remove his gaze from the middle distance. Holding this position he spoke just one or two words to Kate. This he did without moving his head and without looking directly at her or even looking in her general direction. A few words no more and no response were all it took for the message of comfort to be received and understood by all.

If Kate hadn't seen the men it now didn't matter. All that mattered was that Gerry had and he had made sure Kate knew the state of play with the PJ that day.



PS: Yeah now you mention it the monotone uniform is quite popular with many - the police, the clergy, barristers, undertakers to name but a few and last but by no means least - the Freemasons.

[thentherewere4]

The McCanns phones were bugged by the PJ and the McCanns knew it. For the McCanns getting a secure line of communication out to those who might be able to assist them was a real issue from the earliest of days.

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On the 9th of May 2007 6 days after the "disappearence" Gerry McCann rather theatricaly ventured out onto the rocks located in front of the church at PDL in order to call 'home'. The word theatricaly is used as the mast which collects Gerrys phone signal and voice data cares not a jot where the call originates from. The beach, the chaplaincy, the Tapas Bar or even from one of the McCanns friends houses in Luz, regardless of location the same collection of data occurs and at all times.

The call is logged in terms of its geographic position by means of simple triangulation of the signal with other masts in the vicinity. From day one the PJ either knew or had access to all there is to know about Gerrys or any other suspects electronic communications.

The PJ knew where the call originated and the contents of the call - from both sides, and the number called and details of any SMS texts. So what you may wonder was Gerry McCann hoping to achieve in terms of privacy advertising his call in front of the worlds press. To you or I the actions of Gerry McCann appear to serve no obvious purpose at all.

The press were encamped in PDL and either at the McCanns beckoning or sensing a development in the story followed the pair down to the rocky foreshore. Gerry's was immediately videoed and photographed and transmitted to all four corners of the globe, instantaenously and without interference of any kind.

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Maybe it is only now the actions of Gerry McCann can now be fully understood. The communication Gerry McCann used that day was not audible to anyone unless you happened to be Michael Wright. Kates cousin Wright had escorted Gerry to the rocks and returned with him. On the rocks during the "phone call" Wright remained just out of shot of Gerry whilst this series of pictures was taken.

Gerys actions provoked immediate talk in the press, on the internet and elsewhwere. The questions asked were had Maddie been kidnapped or carried away by boat or had the McCanns dumped her body off the foreshore or even buried it in the nearby beach. The PJ despatched a marine flotilla of small boats to inspect the nearby coastline. Oceanographers were consulted, curents were plotted and from nearby plastic dolls were pulled from the sea wrapped in black bags.

It now seems Gerrys actions that day not only served to fuel speculation and rumour concerning the whereabouts of Maddies body but also ensured the successful transmission of his own personal message. So profound an impact had Gerrys actions been, some six weeks later the PJ under the leadership of Goncalo Amaral returned to this seaward theme. This time they did so with the help of a 'McCann' specialist of most uncertain scientific pedigree.

TV commentators, journalists and media professionals, those who make their living by the media, were always anxious to remind us the McCanns "are very media savvy" persons. Perhaps it is only now we the viewing public have become aware just what was meant by "media savvy" in terms of the McCanns and just how "very media savvy" the McCanns really were all along.

[lightgiver]

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U.S. and French investigators say Nayef bin Sultan bin Fawwaz al-Shalaan, a member of the Saudi royal family, used his private 727 jet to smuggle drugs from South America to Le Borget airport outside of Paris. Under the rules of diplomatic immunity, when the prince landed at the airport in his private jet, his entourage received little or no inspection, a French official said.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9__MFrAhzQI&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/9__MFrAhzQI

The prince is now under indictment in the United States and France, but he remains in Saudi Arabia, a royal fugitive, protected by his powerful family, according to U.S. drug agents.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Kpm-yHCzw&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/G4Kpm-yHCzw

Doris Mangeri Salazar, a real estate agent from Coral Gables, Fla., who is described as the prince's former girlfriend, and her friend Ivan Lopez Vanegas, 49, are on trial in Miami. A Swiss banker alleged to have been the money launderer in the drug trafficking scheme has been indicted but is in Spain, which refuses to extradite him.

'No Doubt Whatsoever'

There is an outstanding international arrest warrant for the prince, but there is little law enforcement can do because neither the United States nor France has an extradition treaty with Saudi Arabia.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJj5wet-E1g&feature=player_detailpage
http://youtu.be/zJj5wet-E1g

According to a Drug Enforcement Administration agent in Miami, Joe Kilmer, the investigation yielded plenty of evidence of the prince's participation in the crime ring. "We feel there's no doubt whatsoever that the prince had every bit of knowledge as to what he was involved with," he said.

The Saudi government has not made the prince available for questioning, according to U.S. agents, and has done little to cooperate with the investigation. The Saudi government has not made any official comment on the case.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1524968/Saudi-prince-on-trial-over-plot-to-smuggle-drugs-in-his-airliner.html

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[thentherewere4]

At the Levenson enquiry into the dealings of the totally free press and the Freemasons of the UK literarti there was a woman all dressed in grey who just loves to talk dirty. In Kates recent book - coauthored by the childrens author Rowling - there is talk of childrens pierced labia and other such total nonsense.

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Talking dirty Kate McCann? Not on your life. Not when she's got a multi millionaire woman like Rowling to call upon. Why bark when you have a dog.

[thentherewere4]

I have now started to compare the different Maddies we've been presented with over the years. One of my personal favorites is Jewish Maddie. She gets a total of eight out of ten on the Freemason scale.

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[soloman]

With regard to Peter Mcann, I was interested to learn that he set up Clouds House in Dorset with his wife, as an addiction treatment centre, because Clouds House used to be owned by Aleister Crowley. I have been in there twice and I saw a man turn into a snake in there, long before I had ever heard of the reptillians. If Peter Mcann is a freemason then it is not surprising he chose Clouds House to be his treatment centre.

[thentherewere4]

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Hi and Welcome to Mr.first post - snakes in Dorset? What a bizzare suggestion. Sounds much more like a case of Freemasons in Wiltshire to me.

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Is this the silliest picture you ever saw or maybe you really do prefer the one of the cartoon dragon..This picture of 'Uncle' Peter McCann with his wife appeared on their Castle Craig website in 2007. The peculiar hand gesture Peter McCann is using is explained by the red crayoning, courtesy of the Freemasons and is not as has been said by some the handiwork of semi literate snakes, lizards or fire breathing dragons.

'Uncle' Peter McCann had a brother who was a miscreant and an alcoholic. He had a very sad lonely life and died in a drunken stupor in Manchester his adopted home town but not before he had pissed away all his benefit money for just one last time.

The reformed 'Uncle' Peter with Freemason money from Seattle did rather better. He managed to kick the habit in the US and came back to the UK where with his Freemason money connections and some serious string pulling managed to get his hands on the everso run down 'Clouds' building. Naturally enough with this amount of serious financial muscle Peter went on to make some serious splosh dosh.

Going back several generations the McCanns as a family have a tradition and association both with alcohol and Freemasonry. In Ireland the family were landlords and publicans for a number of years.The pub is still there ...well sortof.
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In her later years Gerry's mother almost singlehandedly ran the pub before giving it up to Joe People. Beneath the smoke blackened paintwork, itself a testament to the years of upheaval and dispute enveloping some of those living in the area, it is possible to still make out the original owners sign:
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As a footnote to the McCanns unhealthy and some would say very Irish association with the bottle booze and the imbibing or serving thereof it is to be noted when Gerry McCann's father John, who (we have been told) was actually born in this same pub, died at a young age Gerry McCann refused to attend the funeral.

John McCann - Gerry's father, left or perhaps was required to or felt the desperate need to uproot himself and his entire family and to leave Ireland and go to live in Glasgow. Some short time later a pregnant Eileen MCcann left the Emerald Isle with her eldest child, also named John, to join him. On arrival in Glasgow it is probable John McCann coming as he did from a region with turbulent Protestant sympathies, joined one or other of the Freemason Orange Order 'City' Lodges which were then proving to be very popular with Irish expats living in their adopted home.

This picture was taken in the mid 70's and shows lodge or chapter members proudly sporting their loyalties and alliegences:
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and somemore...
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...and just in case you lost the plot with the Freemasons and all that inter racial quasi religous Irish strife which we have been plagued with throughout the entire last century, here's something that might help explain who really had a hand (or several it seems) in all that...
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/483/masonicorangeorderlodge.jpg

So Irish pubs, Irish Freemasonry and alcoholism and the McCanns - it seems to me to be less a case of snakes and dragons but more a case of you just can't ever have one without the other.