lextorite
24-12-2009, 11:38 AM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2009/dec/21/climate-scepticism-jesse-ventura
Great job Guardian for showing just how biased you are.
hold_that_thought
24-12-2009, 12:00 PM
It's easy to get upset, but don't be. Yes, the Gruniad does a set piece attempt at destruction job on ventura 'because he's an ex wrestler'...That is their weakness.. They're clutching at straws because they have nothing else... as one of the comments points out far more succinctly than I could..
You would think that any reporter who explicitly attacks someone for not presenting documentation would go out of his way to present at least one certifiable fact himself. But no.
This "article" is just a lame hitpiece, trying to discredit Ventura because he is a "wrestler", when you could just as easily have labeled him a "former governor" or "navy SEAL". It doesn`t stop there however, as I realized after browsing the Guardians potpurri of "information" about the climate issue.
It is presented as incontrovertible fact that climate change is real, man made and that taxation is the only way to save us. This is done without a single, solitary critical view of the people who might benefit from such a solution, it simply states flatly that the consumption of ordinary people are to blame and that we must pay, through taxation and deindustrialization, whilst vilifying anyone who might disagree with this perspective for whatever reason, be it scientific, political or ethical.
In the Guardians strange world the Climategate e-mails are insignificant, even though they showed clearly how Phil Jones and other climatologists have fabricated the "science" upon which the presumption of anthropogenic global warming was based, and therefore all the "journalism" about the subject on this site. All you are doing imo is forging a consensus about the issue which is no longer based on facts, but faith. In this regard what you are writing at the moment is nothing more than the crudest propaganda.
I realize that it`s hard to admit you`ve been duped, not least because of the ramifications this fraudulent scientific practise should have for our confidence in those practising science in the future. After all, if they lied about this, what else have we been lied to about.
Of course, rather than adressing the real issues we could go the way the Guardian has apparently chosen and fanatically deny the reality presented to us by the scientific fraud that is Climategate. There is no corruption in the world and there never has been, nobody is ever dishonest or greedy, nothing is science unless finance oligarchs say it is, at which point it turns into undebatable gospel even as the same people make billions off the policy changes and democracy dies.
Now you might believe in your folly that all that is written by the Guardian must be true, God knows we have sacred cows in the Norwegian propaganda establishment as well. But I know full well who I trust more if forced to choose between Ventura and Leo Hickman. I will accuse Hickman, and the Guardian in general, of being paid off by the political and financial establishment to spew this now fraudulent science as gospel, never letting the opposing views be presented in a meaningful way.
I don`t beleive this to be true of Ventura, which is all I need to determine that I`m more likely to get the truth out of him, however many blows to the head he`s taken.
The choice is yours.
This TV programme is dangerous. Like Hickman states the people in that programme, including Ventura, all say they believe in Climate Change. This is top tier ultra high level mind control. They're painting the denier as a kook. A weird Conspiracy 'Theorist' who believes that this secret cabal of two individuals planned the whole thing to get rich.
And Jude Sarpong. Jesus.
(Seeing her involvement was about where I lost interest)
Hickman says that her TV production company 'Lipgloss Productions' is airing a programme dedicted to climate change in the near future, yet she's got her weird IQ level all up in this down-dumbing. Meeting in shadowy car-parks to get pithy info about which criminals to track down.
They're portraying real tangible important life threatening issues like a childrens programme. While the actual children are being shown 'An Inconvenient Truth' as part of the carriculum.
It's like the fuckin Twighlight Zone. This programme of Ventura's (Whoever the hell he is) and no doubt his others, is designed to demonise the freethinker, to make the man-made climate change denier appear to be a childish crack-pot.