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anyuser
19-12-2009, 04:59 AM
Chicago Advice Columnist Tells Nervous Virgin to Hire a Prostitute

It sounds like a Judd Apatow flick, but a real advice columnist for a Chicago newspaper has advised a man nearing 40 who has yet to have sex that he should just stop worrying about finding a woman he cares for and call in a professional.

First the New York Post gives an advice column to a prostitute (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/spitzer_babe_answers_4duaVqTCJHA38suGawuaiM), now we've got the Chicago Sun-Times advice columnist promoting prostitution? What a week for womankind in the newspaper biz.

Chicago Sun-Times columnist Cheryl Lavin prefaced her column this Monday (http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/lavin/1937729,CST-FTR-lavin14.article) with a disclaimer, "Reader Alert! This is my most politically incorrect column ever, and I know I'm going to make a lot of people angry. Having said that ..."

That didn't stop her from telling "Get This Monkey Off My Back" that the answer to his fear of intimacy is to get sexually intimate with a woman with whom he didn't have to be emotionally intimate. "Sexual experience equals confidence equals attraction," Lavin says.

Or it equals a guy with experience who still can't commit to a real relationship and now has a taste for paying for sex. He's paying a woman in a "career" accepted by the psychological and medical community (http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mhvhealt.htm) as highly toxic to women. Lavin's disclaimer doesn't make her decision much more comforting when she notes that even where prostitution is illegal, it's still widespread. Is that aiding and abetting in a big-city newspaper?

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.lemondrop.com/media/2009/12/amazon-40-year-old-virgin.jpg
Whether hiring a hooker will even help "Get this Monkey..." is highly debatable. What a good therapist could do in a few sessions is get to the root of those intimacy issues, maybe even find out if he's gay--hey, you never know--or a total creep.

But why let somebody else take the credit for getting him laid, huh?

source: http://www.lemondrop.com/2009/12/16/chicago-advice-columnist-tells-aging-virgin-to-hire-a-prostitute/

He nears 40 years old, still a virgin
Unconventional idea may help his love life

Reader Alert! This is my most politically incorrect column ever, and I know I'm going to make a lot of people angry. Having said that ...

DEAR CHERYL: I'm a male in my mid-30s, and still a virgin. It's a monkey I would love to have off my back. This has nothing to do with religious and moral beliefs. I didn't start dating until after college, and I haven't had any relationships with girls that have lasted long enough to have sex.

I'm usually told after a few dates that I'm a nice guy but there's no connection. I don't know what this means and have no idea how to generate a connection. Is there some secret to chemistry? I find it hard to believe that after all these years it hasn't happened to me even once, whereas others have sex on first dates.

There's another problem. I'm terrified of the prospect of being in an intimate situation with someone and not knowing what to do. Is this something I should even bring up? My friends who are girls tell me that they would not date someone my age who has no experience in bed because they would think there's something wrong with him.

GET THIS MONKEY

OFF MY BACK

DEAR GTMOMB!, You've been assuming that if you felt a connection with a woman and she felt one with you, then you'd have sex with her and be rid of your monkey. So, you want to be intimate with a woman, but at the same time, you're afraid to be. You're running in two directions at the same time. That's a recipe for failure right there.

I think your fear of being intimate -- because it means exposing your inexperience -- is what women are picking up on, and that's what's causing the lack of connection on their part. I have a feeling your unhappiness over your virginity is inhibiting you with woman.

What if you went at it the other way? What if you lost your virginity first, then tried to have a connection with a woman? Your whole personality on a date might blossom. Sexual experience equals confidence equals attraction.

So, how do you get rid of your virginity?
http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/lavin.jpg_20081208_09_55_37_9-282-400.imageContent

Prostitution is legal in some counties in Nevada. And even where it's illegal, it's widespread. Conservative columnist George Will recently said on "This Week With George Stephanopoulos," "We legalized prostitution, as anyone who opens a telephone book and looks under 'escort' can tell."

I'm not recommending that you do anything that makes you uncomfortable, I'm just presenting an option.

If you don't like that option, let's think of another one. The Internet has Web sites for people who want to get together for sex without strings. You might want to check them out. If you do, be careful to protect yourself.

Think about my suggestions, and let me know what you're going to do.
source: http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/lavin/1937729,CST-FTR-lavin14.article

kappy0405
19-12-2009, 05:34 AM
whether prostitution is immoral or not is entirely subjective.. I personally don't support it & wouldn't recommend it, but that said.. this man may be so intimidated about his first time that he'll never break through without a more casual first encounter. I say looking for a random one-nighter was sound advice from the columnist, and prostitution seems like a viable last resort for him.. done legally of course. :rolleyes:

madamlasher
19-12-2009, 06:26 AM
I actually think if he wants to see a prostitute that his choice.

prostitution is one of the oldest occupations and I don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as it's performed in a safe and discreet manner.

and the advice columnist states:

I'm not recommending that you do anything that makes you uncomfortable, I'm just presenting an option.

no need to prudish about it lol.

wildhorse
19-12-2009, 10:05 AM
sometimes its the only way for many virgin guys....and one day he may just find someone special....

he may not....and whilst i think prostitution and porn are for the main part negative exchanges, i dont think it can be blamed on him not finding a 'normal' relationship laters... he may just be purely and simply a complete dick

but all the best to the guy anyway

soleil
19-12-2009, 10:53 AM
This reminds me of the Channel 4 documentary 'Virgin school' that described how a virgin in his mid-20s went to Amsterdam to be taught the arts of Venus by mature women.

I'm too arrogant to pay a woman for something that nature has given both genders freely so I don't condone prostitution but I think the advice here is practical and useful. Remember that prostitution is legal in some US states which is probably a hang over from when men out numbered women in settler communities.

edelweiss pirate
19-12-2009, 12:25 PM
sometimes its the only way for many virgin guys....and one day he may just find someone special....

he may not....and whilst i think prostitution and porn are for the main part negative exchanges, i dont think it can be blamed on him not finding a 'normal' relationship laters... he may just be purely and simply a complete dick

but all the best to the guy anyway

People I've talked to (usually squadies) who lost their virginity to a prostitute feel pretty bad about it in later life....

Check out this guy:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

cpfc12
19-12-2009, 12:32 PM
I lost my virginity to a nice looking blonde bird, soon after she turned into a beast though (coincidence?), but thankfully it was a one off, as it would prove trying to find her cliterus an even harder task than it was in the first play

meksar
19-12-2009, 09:20 PM
Prostitution is the oldest profession and if truth be told it is no hassle/strings attached sex. We live in a society where if you want to get a whore they will fucking lock you up but they will allow 12 year old kids to have a sex change. I mean either way you end up paying for sex anyway, the dates and gifts cost money and most importantly it costs time which is money.

The only thing that is bad about it is the human trafficking and trauma based mind control they put these unfortunate women through to have sex with any guy who comes calling. The pimps usually get them hooked on drugs to make them dependant on whoring to feed their habit. High class escorts are for the city slicker boys who have plenty of money to burn.

les_paul_robot
19-12-2009, 10:04 PM
These guys are feeling the pressure from what exactly? Society? Fuck that. The real world is not Hollyoaks, 90210, Friends or whatever.

soleil
20-12-2009, 01:33 PM
I mean either way you end up paying for sex anyway, the dates and gifts cost money and most importantly it costs time which is money.

Sebastian Horsley: "The difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money always costs a lot less."

The socially acceptable means for men to acquire sex is through the fixed term contract (Marriage/ committment) while 'pay-as-you-go' is unacceptable.

Here is an academic journal describing that sex always sees a certain transfer of material resources to the female.

A heterosexual community can be analyzed as a marketplace in which men seek to acquire sex from women by offering other resources in exchange. Societies will therefore define gender roles as if women are sellers and men buyers of sex. Societies will endow female sexuality, but not male sexuality, with value (as in virginity, fidelity, chastity). The sexual activities of different couples are loosely interrelated by a marketplace, instead of being fully separate or private, and each couple’s decisions may be influenced by market conditions. Economic principles suggest that the price of sex will depend on supply and demand, competition among sellers, variations in product, collusion among sellers, and other factors. Research findings show gender asymmetries (reflecting the complementary economic roles) in prostitution, courtship, infidelity and divorce, female competition, the sexual revolution and changing norms, unequal status between partners, cultural suppression of female sexuality, abusive relationships, rape, and sexual attitudes.


http://www.csom.umn.edu/Assets/71503.pdf

flickflack
20-12-2009, 01:38 PM
A prostitute can definitely help him break his virginity if that is what's most important to him... If he searches for love, however-- a dating site would be much more helpful for him.

Prostitutes are hired for sex, not for love.

somethinganonymous
20-12-2009, 02:15 PM
I mean, come on, the guy is obviously a 'nice guy' and well, nice guys don't get laid. If the columnist really cared for the bloke, she'd hook him up with a dating guru, such as David DeAngelo or Mystery or Thundercat or any of the other guys who know how to convert a 'nice guy' into a man. I was once a 'nice guy' and I know all about it. David DeAngelo saved my sex-life as he has with heaps of other guys. Creds to the falla. Anyway, prostitution is awful, and I can't believe that the newspaper columnist would recommend such a horrible act. It is rape! (most of the time anyway, I'm sure some prostitutes are nymphos who love to have sex with many guys, but come on, they are the minority) I'd say the columnist is incompetent and gives awful advice to men seeking a solution to an obvious problem. His problem isn't lack of intimacy, it is simply lack of manhood. If his girlfriends say he's a nice guy, then he is a wussy. He needs to grow up, take responsibility for himself, change his attitude and voila, he'll attract beautiful, intelligent women. If you want to aattract a woman, you need to be a man. Simple enough.

sacredrealm
25-05-2012, 02:59 PM
But isn't being a "man" abit vague?

I usualy conlude I can only try to be the closest to what I want to be and not what people "want". If what I am isn't considered "man" enough then oh well.

I'm not buying into the "PUA" manuals as they are called. Because I'd rather be myself.

Sometimes being known to enough females to have a chance of actually having sex seems out of reach.

Including on "dating" websites.

The men on there outnumber the women and "attractive" women I imagine get many more messages (generally).

Weather its natural or not, it often seems an unbalanced situation. And it means that men often seek validation from weather they get girls. But girls often seem to have a long list of what they need in a guy to give him a chance!

And many times Ive consididered hiring a woman. I havn't done, but its always there as a last resort.

NO its not "ideal", but the options seem "limited" in this society. I mean I know I don't absolutley NEEED sex instantly to live, and will be able to go abit longer I'm sure, while focuing on my passion. However if at the point of really feeling the need, it seems alot of the time like I'd be "stuck" if I was going to rule out the option of "hiring" a girl.

No one who argues against it has ever given a better option that is free. Of course there is continuing to wait. But I'm talking about times when I don't want to anymore haha.

mmac900
25-05-2012, 05:49 PM
I feel bad for people on here who think that you have to spend loads of money on women to have sex. Me and my gf dont have much money and we have sex all the time, and i got no money to buy her things.

skyver
25-05-2012, 06:04 PM
The thing is even if he went with a prostitute, doesn't mean he will perform the deed. For him to get too that age means he must get nervous & put up barriers way before he's even remotely near the sexual stage. Anyway, was the reporter saying it 'tongue in cheek'. Either way, I dont think the advice given was wrong.

emerald
25-05-2012, 11:02 PM
I lost my virginity to a nice looking blonde bird, soon after she turned into a beast though (coincidence?), but thankfully it was a one off, as it would prove trying to find her cliterus an even harder task than it was in the first play

:DCliterus? Is that a new mutant organ, clitoris and uterus mixed up?

sparkplug
25-05-2012, 11:17 PM
If the guy in question is worried about not having sex by 40 then he has deeper issues I would say.

If it was me I would get a prostitute and get it out of the way.