View Full Version : John Lennon is an evil Communist!
chris_com283
16-12-2009, 07:20 AM
Excuse the title, I'm in a weird mood. Well we already know that Lennon was a devout Satanist and had countless sexual affairs with Pokemon, but I wonder if anyone else has actually listened to the lyrics of his song 'Imagine'.
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
Imagine - John Lennon - YouTube
I'm not too familiar with the life and beliefs of Lennon so this came as quite a small shock to me. This was the first time I ever paid close attention to the words.
pound
16-12-2009, 07:22 AM
Sexual affairs with "pokemon" you say....Could you please explain?
And Im being sincere, I honestly dont know much about this subject of Mr. Lennon and the occult!
dreamweaver
16-12-2009, 07:26 AM
Lennon did actually say in interviews that Imagine was "virtually the Communist Manifesto".
chris_com283
16-12-2009, 07:35 AM
Thank you dreamweaver, I really didn't know that. I think Richard Dawkins is also fond of the song. He apparently plays it at his Athiest camps. I wonder how they went. Never went too indepth into that story.
purple rain
16-12-2009, 07:51 AM
Lennon at 30 exchanged one limiting idealogy for another. Look at one interview where he's discussing how to bring out a worker's revolution in the UK. I hope he grew out of it when he got older.
purple rain
16-12-2009, 07:55 AM
Imagine no posessions sounds very nice in a light headed hippie meditative consciosness mode but any other time get someone to give up his posessions they'll rally against it all they can. Because posessions and money can in many ways allow you to live a more happy positive and even spritual life. It's a rare breed that needs just that one hill and a hut. What if money allowed you to move to a hut in a hill in a whole different location, you know see more of nature elsewhere too?
chris_com283
16-12-2009, 09:51 AM
I understand the greed aspect though I don't believe living without possessions is living in balance. I think getting wrapped up in the maya (sanskrit for "illusion of reality") can be very damaging spiritually, but so can the opposite of cutting of your ties completely with the material world. We're here for a reason and that reason is much more (in my opinion) than to merely dismiss Christmas as a materialistic sham.
merde
16-12-2009, 01:02 PM
possession is an interesting word with more than one meaning...
purple rain
16-12-2009, 01:27 PM
That's very deep.
grachtengordel
16-12-2009, 01:34 PM
lennon was a communist and a satanist, he was always throwing up the 'horns', cover of yellow submarine,
he also used secret nsa time travel device to go forward in time and steal the insipid, dreary piano sound off wobbie rilliams's 'angels' (itself a steal from oirishman ray heffernan) for his communist hymn 'imagine'
decode reality
17-12-2009, 11:54 AM
Based on what I've read about John Lennon and my own gut feelings, I'd have thought that a one world authoritarian state would be the last thing he'd have wanted.
I also believe that it's possible to read bad intentions in those lyrics where another person may see quite the opposite.
Do we now hold under suspicion every artist who has ever sung a song about global unity (or any kind of unity) of being 'shills'? Sting sang 'One World is enough', I'm sure he wasn't in cahoots with the military industrial complex. Bob Marley sang 'Africa Unite' but I suspect that the idea of an 'African Union' a la the EU wasn't what he had in mind.
Just putting this out there, looking forward to responses.
michael_mac
17-12-2009, 12:30 PM
lennon was a communist and a satanist, he was always throwing up the 'horns', cover of yellow submarine,
he also used secret nsa time travel device to go forward in time and steal the insipid, dreary piano sound off wobbie rilliams's 'angels' (itself a steal from oirishman ray heffernan) for his communist hymn 'imagine'
Your wrong! :cool: He flew forward in time to steal the Oasis sound off this...:eek:
Don't Look Back In Anger - YouTube
Siriusly!:confused:
who elsie
17-12-2009, 06:45 PM
Excuse the title, I'm in a weird mood. Well we already know that Lennon was a devout Satanist and had countless sexual affairs with Pokemon, but I wonder if anyone else has actually listened to the lyrics of his song 'Imagine'.
Yes! That must be it! Your extensively researched and sourced theory has certainly convinced me that Lennon was indeed a satanist and obviously had sexual affairs with Pokemon. What else could 'Imagine' possibly be about?!
You're also right that most of the millions of Lennon fans have never listened to his lyrics - otherwise they would have obviously come to this conclusion also!
:D
michael_mac
17-12-2009, 08:44 PM
Yes! That must be it! Your extensively researched and sourced theory has certainly convinced me that Lennon was indeed a satanist and obviously had sexual affairs with Pokemon. What else could 'Imagine' possibly be about?!
You're also right that most of the millions of Lennon fans have never listened to his lyrics - otherwise they would have obviously come to this conclusion also!
:D
I'm the second person to ask this who, apart from some kids card game, is Pokemon?
I can't help being reminded of his song - Instant Karma's gonna get you!
pound
17-12-2009, 08:53 PM
I was wondering the same thing..haha. Is Yoko ono, Pokemon?
michael_mac
17-12-2009, 10:36 PM
Could be Yoko Ono and the other oriental woman he had a relationship with. Perhaps Pokemon is slang for Japanese or something?
I personally think John was assasinated for giving away too much.
dreamweaver
18-12-2009, 12:42 AM
Do we now hold under suspicion every artist who has ever sung a song about global unity (or any kind of unity) of being 'shills'? Sting sang 'One World is enough', I'm sure he wasn't in cahoots with the military industrial complex. Bob Marley sang 'Africa Unite' but I suspect that the idea of an 'African Union' a la the EU wasn't what he had in mind.
Just putting this out there, looking forward to responses.
Unfortunately I think it's in the very nature of those who see everything as an interlinked conspiracy to seek hidden meanings where there are none.
Some people need to fine-tune their bullshit filter IMO.
I remember hearing elderly people calling Lennon a communist almost 40 years ago for that song.
kappy0405
18-12-2009, 12:52 AM
oh yes.. a system where no single person can control anyone else... where the current ptb have no power whatsoever.. Where they can't own a single thing for the purpose of exploiting it.. no bankers, no lobbyists, no hierarchy, no war..
What a horrible, evil concept.
chris_com283
18-12-2009, 03:25 AM
oh yes.. a system where no single person can control anyone else... where the current ptb have no power whatsoever.. Where they can't own a single thing for the purpose of exploiting it.. no bankers, no lobbyists, no hierarchy, no war..
What a horrible, evil concept.
You can`spin any political system to to make it look good.
Based on what I've read about John Lennon and my own gut feelings, I'd have thought that a one world authoritarian state would be the last thing he'd have wanted.
I'm not sure if he was pushing an agenda or part of the Elite as commonly believed among conspiracy theorists, but my point that he's a communist seems fairly well established. My post style was merely to inject some humor into this discussion.
You're also right that most of the millions of Lennon fans have never listened to his lyrics - otherwise they would have obviously come to this conclusion also!
The powers that be had such a grip on them that they were unable to critically examine his lyrical hypnosis. If only they had played his song backwards then they would have been convinced!
Perhaps Pokemon is slang for Japanese or something?
Basically means poket monster.
Unfortunately I think it's in the very nature of those who see everything as an interlinked conspiracy to seek hidden meanings where there are none.
Reminds me of the videos with creepy music examining adverts for Satanic/Masonic images. Though sometimes I believe it to be quite intentional, I don't believe it to be the great evil many CTs believe it to be. Sort of like a media Easter egg that goes over many peoples heads.
chris_com283
18-12-2009, 03:26 AM
possession is an interesting word with more than one meaning...
Yes, but not in this context.:rolleyes:
merde
18-12-2009, 12:31 PM
Yes, but not in this context.:rolleyes:
i disagree. do we possess possessions or do the possessions possess us?
imagine no possessions i wonder if you can... obviously many can't such is the indocrination via parents, education and the media, thus possessions become unconscious totemistic idols and worshipped as such. for many god is an eye pod.
decode reality
18-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Unfortunately I think it's in the very nature of those who see everything as an interlinked conspiracy to seek hidden meanings where there are none.
Some people need to fine-tune their bullshit filter IMO .
Very much so.
decode reality
18-12-2009, 03:29 PM
There's two things that come to mind:
I'm sure that what most people take from 'Imagine' is the message of peace.
I accept that not everyone will see it that way - but let's put this into a context: Switch on the radio right now, go through 99% of commercial stations and listen to the mind numbing stuff that's played. If anything, there aren't enough songs like 'Imagine' out there to stimulate thought.
I love the song but I'm informed enough to see through the elite's one world 'stepping stones' techniques. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, in other words.
On the Communism thing: Back in the late 60s and early 70s, many 'radical' and revolutionary groups espoused Left/communist politics. Years down the line, that may now appear naive to us who see that 'left' and 'right' are two nwo management teams. It was a reflection of the times and the only vehicle that a lot of people had for putting forward an anti establishment viewpoint was the left. Even Bob Marley had sympathies with the Leftist Jamaican president Manley but he didn't see himself as a 'socialist'.
michael_mac
18-12-2009, 04:06 PM
oh yes.. a system where no single person can control anyone else... where the current ptb have no power whatsoever.. Where they can't own a single thing for the purpose of exploiting it.. no bankers, no lobbyists, no hierarchy, no war..
What a horrible, evil concept.
It would work if we didn't have bodies and just floated about like clouds then we wouldn't need this world, but we have bodies, we have needs, we want things - so it's pie in the sky philosophy!
lightgiver
20-12-2009, 12:49 AM
Remember everything is just label ,go beyond the Label;)
John Lennon - Power To The People - YouTube
I reckon John Lennon was Killed by the CIA or some other sinister group.
I have always thought it.
Mind Games - John Lennon - YouTube
Some kinda druid dudes lifting the veil.
Doing the mind guerilla,
Some call it the search for the grail,
Love is the answer and you know that for sure,
Love is flower you got to let it, you got to let it grow,
Doing the ritual dance in the sun,
Millions of mind guerrillas,
Putting their soul power to the karmic wheel,