2012 is a load of boll@*ks

[snakehips33]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.

[sofa king]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.



I think what needs to be confirmed on what exactly the end of this calendar means.

Most psychics, spiritualists etc do not see it as the end of the world. But it will be the end of what we are doing now.

A number of people are forecasting that the change will be in our thinking and spirituality.

[norton]

i thought it just stopped on dec 21 2012. no predictions.

[mr_kiz]

2012 is the next age...

although surely because of the mayans being on a 13 month calender and us being on a 12 month it wouldn't actually happen in 2012 anyway. It'd be like a year or two out.

[merlincove]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.

The calendar did't 'predict' the end of the world, it just stops counting in December 2012 is all.

No one is sure why - maybe it is the epoch of realisation, when we realise time doesn't exist and is metaphorical in that sense?

2012, or at least the awakening foreseen as the 2012 promise has been happening for some time now, at least for the past 40 years or so, and has picked up momentum over the last five years. 2012 has already happened

If you're waiting for 2012 then yr too late, that train has already left the station, but the awakening waits for all to catch up, when they are ready, because remember time doesn't really exist :D

[sofa king]

i thought it just stopped on dec 21 2012. no predictions.


my understanding of it is that there are shamanic predictions on what happens the day after the calendar ends.

[snakehips33]

I'm actually curious as to why it would end in 2012 and not earlier as the Mayans dissapeared a long time ago. There are many different callanders. Pol Pot's year 0 was in 1974. The Chinese callender is in the 9th millenia and the old Angkor callander is in the 26th century. Why are people paying so much attention to the Mayan version?

[sofa king]

Why are people paying so much attention to the Mayan version?

because it has an "end date" where others do not

[368jrn]

These people had many calendars, they knew about the natural cycle of time

their calendars are still accurate today with regards to lunar and solar eclipses.

Why start a calendar 2000 years before they were around? Unless they knew that it must start on a specific day, and then must end on a specific day. Their calendar doesn't say" 21 dec 2012", that's our gregorian equivalent date.

However, some say that 28th oct 2011 is the most important date regarding the long count calenda, all todo with 13's. Google it.

Interesting times ahead I feel!!

[snakehips33]

No one is sure why - maybe it is the epoch of realisation, when we realise time doesn't exist and is metaphorical in that sense?

Whether time exists or not is basically down to if we live in a finite universe or an infinite universe. I don't think we'll reach an understanding to this question within the next few years, this is something that is beyond the capabilities of humans, i think we are quite a long way from this stage of evolution. I don't think its something that humans are capable of understanding.

[dude111]

All 2012 is IS THE CALENDAR ENDING ON 12-21!!

Big deal,nothing will probably occur.........

[measle_weasel]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.

Maybe.

All but I think four of their books were destroyed, or possibly exist but are either hidden, or as of yet unfound.

[coco]

Maybe.

All but I think four of their books were destroyed, or possibly exist but are either hidden, or as of yet unfound.

As I understand (may not be necessarily correct), the Spanish soldiers destroyed the writings of the Mayans as they felt their cultural and religious practices were backward and evil and wanted to erase that knowledge, yet some priests secretly saved the books that were not destroyed and those numbered only four. How fascinating it would be if entire collection were available.

[measle_weasel]

As I understand (may not be necessarily correct), the Spanish soldiers destroyed the writings of the Mayans as they felt their cultural and religious practices were backward and evil and wanted to erase that knowledge, yet some priests secretly saved the books that were not destroyed and those numbered only four. How fascinating it would be if entire collection were available.

Ive heard the same. It sounds plausible; that IS something christian fanatics would do, ie, try to completely obliterate a culture who didnt conform to their way of thinking. Though I think its possible more than four books were saved. Maybe not though. Its a toss up.

[ferret]

whoever started this thread. have u read 'defending sacred ground' by alex collier, and another book called 'coevolution? ' it shed light on 2012 for me anyway!

[creepingdave]

As I understand (may not be necessarily correct), the Spanish soldiers destroyed the writings of the Mayans as they felt their cultural and religious practices were backward and evil and wanted to erase that knowledge, yet some priests secretly saved the books that were not destroyed and those numbered only four. How fascinating it would be if entire collection were available.

Im starting to think that maybe the works wern't destroyed because they thought they were backwards, but perhaps because they knew they were too advanced. I think perhaps the knowledge posed a threat to the Catholics, regarding spirituality and could not have this information spreading out as it may weaken their power and credence.

[cinder_darkskys]

2012 Mayan Calendar talk about about a white man who will come to gather severial cluters on the planet. The main Cluter to be gather by this man god.
Or son of god are the 1st nations peaples or the Red man. do note the skin tone of the peaples of afghanistan. severial 1000's miles north, is the story of the White buffalo also 1st nations, this a story about a white man who will come and basicly save the world, in something called the last stand. Whos makeing this last stand. it dose not say.

When dealing with these storys, when they created it, there always this exterordenairy bening who appear 1st, always there 2 paths. symbolised at the bottem of the stone

In the case of this topic, I decrypted the dream stone, on severial different levels, On one level you have whats was called gods center around the man god. NOT god or what they called the great spirit or god- VIP. also there is no death symbol in the stone at all. major point, there is the symbol of the devil at the bottem

let take 1 level say the ring around the Man god, or son of god. Im not sure what specialist say this is about, in my humble oppinion, this is about the levels of learn of man.

In it self seems like a bunch of boxs with little pickagrams images around the man,but this talks about mans progression, like a clock. With in these boxs even the flower of life is there.

but looking at it like it is you get nothing but the math, which the way man thinks linor, they see it, but can't read it. because its a dream stone, specialist, studing the phycial world, can only get so far, there fore they speculate, this what the stones is about based on these linor fact of the phycial world, and we really want these specialist taking the time to go throw the math.

There problum is the stone is not phycial only in the stone, and the dream that its based on, is not phycial, there fore curent understanding, could never read it in the way its ment to be read

Because with out the 1500 years of studdies on this stone. we would of lost a very special key to what its all about. The FACTS as they can be pressented by specials, will be one the confurm, this man.

As we all know very few peaple give out all the facts on there studdies.

2012 Mayan Calendar, see the reason why they call it a calender, is because of the art in the stone it self, I discribe the innor ring around the man god. but thats not why they come up with it beening a calender. why they say it is because of the ticks around the outter edge.

and because it is a dream stone < right word )

>> it should be note, the revalation tell a much different story but is baicly it seems to the untrained eye, to spell out massive Death << Well we all die, some time))

What dont they want you know. They know it speaks of, the same one that you hear almost every religion talk about. we are waiting for the one that will come and make the changes, that no one eles can.

What eles dose it talk about, that specialist know. in other posts I talk about the figger of god < or pins in the earth ) often I will talk about pillers in the same topic.

How do I know, the codex has been shattered, I know how to access, read an use it. I know its sorces, and the powers that be, who could gave such a dream.

one the reasons I say its not about mass death of a whole clutter. is the storys of the Mayan, severial aspects of there religus storys talk of Golden city. in different times history in there storys speak of the same type of event. like something has come down an just removed them from the planet, this long before there 1st contacted with the white man. WHICH PROVED VERY DESTRUCTIVE. but again you go just a few 1000 miles north. you get a story that the red man had a choise, to live as there fore father, or go with the white man ways Techno wizardery comes up.

Lastly these things can be miss under stood, in a different time, do to this techno magic.

In the story of them joining this new clutter, they meet with the forest peaples. < bigfoot)

who choose not to come out the forest.

I hope this help in the understanding of this dream stone, I seek the 1st dream stone, that I might read the true story of creation....................

I posted on this subject twice I think.

Im sorry for my typeo's

PeaceLovesAll

[the cosmos]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.

FTR (For the record),

The world is not going to end. It's going to be an elevation of consciousness. And an amplification of your manifestations. That's it.

It's a spiritual event! That's for certain! ;)

[anahata]

FTR (For the record),

The world is not going to end. It's going to be an elevation of consciousness. And an amplification of your manifestations. That's it.

It's a spiritual event! That's for certain! ;)

:D

[fromthatshow]

i thought it just stopped on dec 21 2012. no predictions.

No predictions from the Mayans you mean?

They definitely had predictions.
Also, all it takes is a little research to see that there's scientific evidence backing this up, as well as psychic predictions.

But I generally just take a look around me and see that we can't possibly last too much longer. I'm surprised we've made it this far. 2010! I didn't think it would come. At least not with a civilization that we've known. I feel like our type of civilization is hanging on by a very thin thread.

[coco]

Im starting to think that maybe the works wern't destroyed because they thought they were backwards, but perhaps because they knew they were too advanced. I think perhaps the knowledge posed a threat to the Catholics, regarding spirituality and could not have this information spreading out as it may weaken their power and credence.

Possibility, possibility. Granted the good Catholic soldiers and priests were repulsed by the Mayan human sacrifice (though not witch burnings or the inquisition or slaughtering protestants), but I wonder if they were able to recognize the advanced technology of the Mayan (in certain fields; it is said the Mayan did not have the wheel but as necessity is the mother of invention maybe the Mayan didn't require the wheel) or just quickly wrote it all off as evil b/c they didn't understand it and certainly wasn't going to take the time to research the scribblings of a savage, primitive people that sorely required the gentle, loving and extensive torturings necessary to convert their minds, save their souls and expand their sovereign's empire.

Sorry, I kinda waxed on a bit.

It's not implausible to think that some of the priests were learned enough to recognize the writings for the rich addition to the world's library that they were and felt threatened by the different ideas (as they about heliocentrism) thus promoting their destruction. Likewise, it's apparent that some priest(s) also recognized the books for the cultural and historical value they blatantly offered and saved what they could.

Like I said before, wouldn't it be great if more writing were saved and could be found in a dark, dusty backroom of a library somewhere? What wonders could modern man learn?

[gaias child]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.

The Mayan Calendar does not predict the end of the world it is just the end of the calendar, it means something but not the end of the world.

[dngrs]

I think it might be something like the end of the world as we know it

[the cosmos]

The 2012 movie is another fear weapon of the elite! :rolleyes:

[tothestars]

No predictions from the Mayans you mean?

They definitely had predictions.
Also, all it takes is a little research to see that there's scientific evidence backing this up, as well as psychic predictions.

But I generally just take a look around me and see that we can't possibly last too much longer. I'm surprised we've made it this far. 2010! I didn't think it would come. At least not with a civilization that we've known. I feel like our type of civilization is hanging on by a very thin thread.

2012/21/12 is not a fixed date for ascension which some of the trolls in here constantly keep saying. They know the dissapointment will be huge for those they can convince to rely on this date. And probably nothing will happen on that day.

It is meant as "target date"! (some time between 2011-2016 the Shift will hit the fan for real i believe)

[lightgiver]

The Mayan callander alledgedly predicts the end of the world in 2012. Did they also predict that their civilisation would be destroyed centuries ago? Their world ended a long time ago just like many others have died. Something might happen but civilisations are always dying and being born, its just part of the circle of life.

2012 is a load of balls,

Yep

but it makes people plenty money;)

[ultrafrigid]

FTR (For the record),

The world is not going to end. It's going to be an elevation of consciousness. And an amplification of your manifestations. That's it.

It's a spiritual event! That's for certain! ;)

Who's going to make it? Because somehow, I don't feel I will.

[lightgiver]

Who's going to make it? Because somehow, I don't feel I will.

The elites will make it ,as usual,
that's what this is all about.