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dynamicwiseman
12-12-2009, 09:57 PM
I know sometimes this people can suck you into an argument just for the fun of it. I had a few of them in the last two years. Where by work colleagues (minion demons) would make small talk about me. Then proceed to make that an issue, thus making me the old one out...so then it becomes a self fofilling prophecy.

This is one of things that has taken me a long time to understand and overcome. I use to believe people were rational beings that could understand the difference between right & wrong, but clearly they do not. But today i have master several techniques to deal with this, and stop it making me feel depressed.

If there is a creator (God, Buddha, Allah..ect) out there i hope he deals with these minions.

I have more to say, so i will be back later.

sofa king
12-12-2009, 10:04 PM
I know sometimes this people can suck you into an argument just for the fun of it. I had a few of them in the last two years. Where by work colleagues (minion demons) would make small talk about me. Then proceed to make that an issue, thus making me the old one out...so then it becomes a self fofilling prophecy.

This is one of things that has taken me a long time to understand and overcome. I use to believe people were rational beings that could understand the difference between right & wrong, but clearly they do not. But today i have master several techniques to deal with this, and stop it making me feel depressed.

If there is a creator (God, Buddha, Allah..ect) out there i hope he deals with these minions.

I have more to say, so i will be back later.



there are small people in thw world.

maybe they need hobbies. maybe they just need a swift kick in the arse.

don't let it get you down.

archemis
12-12-2009, 10:49 PM
We are all facets of the same source. There is no good or bad, just alternate expressions. Differences exist between personas to enable us to interact and have relationships with a diverse array of ego / ID's, which facilitates our 3D experience and spiritual growth. We are all one. The maya have a beautiful expression for greeting others, which exemplifies this .. 'In Lak'ech', which means "I am another you".

A x

zero1
12-12-2009, 11:16 PM
Arguing with the 9/10ths idiots on here will fuck with your mind..! Learn, as I did, to intensely dislike being disagreed with; then you won't brook anyone playing you. If, at the same time, you can be open to constructive arguments and suggestions, all the better.

3 142
13-12-2009, 04:15 AM
I know sometimes this people can suck you into an argument just for the fun of it. I had a few of them in the last two years. Where by work colleagues (minion demons) would make small talk about me. Then proceed to make that an issue, thus making me the old one out...so then it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

I use to believe people were rational beings that could understand the difference between right & wrong, but clearly they do not.

This is how I see it:

I can relate to what you mean about the self fulfilling prophecy. What you have got to see is that there is no problem with yourself, the root of the whole problem that arises is from the person who is giving you this hassle. He/She maybe has issues/past issues which make them feel bad and insecure, a drug they use to cure themselves with is the temporary fix of putting other people down.

In regards to the part I highlighted in blue my opinion is no, not all people are rational. I believe women to be more tuned in to the frequency of sociality on this earth we live, but they do not work with logic. My opinion, is women, in general, respond more to what their emotions are telling them about a situation. In comparison to a man, he might say we have got to do this, to get this, to achieve this - which would make a degree of logical sense. But a woman, may say we need to do XYZ to achieve this, the XYZ could be anything, but it is what her emotions are telling her and what feels right. Same with people, the world is so diverse, not everyone will relate to one another.

arty2000
13-12-2009, 04:25 AM
We are all facets of the same source. There is no good or bad, just alternate expressions. Differences exist between personas to enable us to interact and have relationships with a diverse array of ego / ID's, which facilitates our 3D experience and spiritual growth. We are all one. The maya have a beautiful expression for greeting others, which exemplifies this .. 'In Lak'ech', which means "I am another you".

A x

well said:)

trappedinameatsuit
13-12-2009, 05:31 AM
Confront them. In a calm, assertive manner. If they get defensive then layeth the smacketh down.

shellygurrrl
15-12-2009, 03:57 AM
We are all facets of the same source. There is no good or bad, just alternate expressions. Differences exist between personas to enable us to interact and have relationships with a diverse array of ego / ID's, which facilitates our 3D experience and spiritual growth. We are all one. The maya have a beautiful expression for greeting others, which exemplifies this .. 'In Lak'ech', which means "I am another you".

A x

No offense, and this is simply my view, but I fully reject that line of thought. I am tired of (some) people saying "there is no good or bad." While I agree, it is vital to shed many learned morals (simply because established religions taught it to you, etc.), you cannot tell me rape, molestation, and murder is "simply another experience." I don't buy it, my intuition says that is 100% wrong. Those brutal actions I mentioned go far beyond morals, and any advanced higher self would shun those actions.

godgoo
15-12-2009, 04:15 AM
I know sometimes this people can suck you into an argument just for the fun of it. I had a few of them in the last two years. Where by work colleagues (minion demons) would make small talk about me. Then proceed to make that an issue, thus making me the old one out...so then it becomes a self fofilling prophecy.

This is one of things that has taken me a long time to understand and overcome. I use to believe people were rational beings that could understand the difference between right & wrong, but clearly they do not. But today i have master several techniques to deal with this, and stop it making me feel depressed.

If there is a creator (God, Buddha, Allah..ect) out there i hope he deals with these minions.

I have more to say, so i will be back later.

I doubt that the creator would have time or even mercy to process this claim. It is up to you, to sort this life out before you leave. Or atleast sort it out whilst your in it, this would be the best, scenario.

princessofwands
15-12-2009, 09:34 AM
Arguments are all about stealing energy from the other person to feed your elementals.

Your mind is full of thoughts that are 'enlivened' by mind-elementals who shape themselves into those thoughts. They need feeding, or they shrink and die. They aim to survive! So they try to express themselves as often as possible. They try to get other people to agree with them, so a similar elemental is formed in the other person's mind, and then a shared-elemental can leap across the gap and be bigger and more powerful and live longer!

When elementals clash, both are diminished and try to re-assert themselves as strongly as possible, because they fear their own death.

the cosmos
15-12-2009, 10:04 AM
I know sometimes this people can suck you into an argument just for the fun of it. I had a few of them in the last two years. Where by work colleagues (minion demons) would make small talk about me. Then proceed to make that an issue, thus making me the old one out...so then it becomes a self fofilling prophecy.

This is one of things that has taken me a long time to understand and overcome. I use to believe people were rational beings that could understand the difference between right & wrong, but clearly they do not. But today i have master several techniques to deal with this, and stop it making me feel depressed.

If there is a creator (God, Buddha, Allah..ect) out there i hope he deals with these minions.

I have more to say, so i will be back later.

You must certainly let us know regarding your techniques, since i have also been able to defend myself better now than say a few years down the line, but i still come across people who irritate the living shit out of me, because of their complete stupidity.

curtaincat
15-12-2009, 02:30 PM
Arguments are all about stealing energy from the other person to feed your elementals.

Your mind is full of thoughts that are 'enlivened' by mind-elementals who shape themselves into those thoughts. They need feeding, or they shrink and die. They aim to survive! So they try to express themselves as often as possible. They try to get other people to agree with them, so a similar elemental is formed in the other person's mind, and then a shared-elemental can leap across the gap and be bigger and more powerful and live longer!

When elementals clash, both are diminished and try to re-assert themselves as strongly as possible, because they fear their own death.

This is very interesting, and more interesting than the "minion" stuff.

I will have to find out more about these mind-elementals. I don't wanna feed them. Not if they are trying to survive off one.
( is that cruel or not? )

princessofwands
15-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Your body is made up of 3 main elementals: physical (mostly etheric), emotional and mental. They are like 3 entities that share much the same space in your aura but on different frequencies. They have squabbles between themselves and probably energy passes between them too. For example P will say 'let's go for a long walk!', E will say, 'let's go and see the Hugh Grant film - yum yum' and M will say, 'wanna read that new David Icke book'.

Then there are communities of smaller and group-elementals within each of those entities. They also fight and squabble. In the mind for example, there will be complexes of elementals dealing with conspiracy facts. Searching for more info, feeding themselves, calling up 'outraged' emotional elementals to join their vibration and strengthen them further. Then there might be an astro community that likes to explore charts and transits and consider what Pluto is doing in Capricorn. If you don't go on an astrology forum for a while, these elementals will shrink and go and hide somewhere in the back of your mind.

So, these 'complexes' of elementals grow and shrink like balloons can do, according to where you place your attention and according to what they hear from other people that feeds them or challenges them, causing them to get puffed up in response, as they fight for their life. You see, if you change your mind about something, your elementals have to change too, and they won't want to do that!

They are semi-autonomous 'beings' that live in and as part of us.

If you meditate, you can rise up out of your elementals and their complexes entirely and gain an entirely new perspective. Though once you come back down to earth, you have to 'clothe' your realisations with elemental matter simply to shape a thought and express what you've understood.

As I type, I'm activating the elementals that explain this. Later I will go and watch TV and activate the elementals of my emotional entity.

The NWO fears our mind elementals. We are becoming strong, powerful and very knowledgeable as we turn into a sort of group-library full of little beings sorting out what we've discovered, and putting it into neat little shelves to bring out and place on newspaper comments, or to inform a particular thread on some aspect of conspiracy-land.

The NWO wants to hold us in our emotional bodies. These elementals are lower-vibrating overall than the mind-elementals and can easily be aroused and 'grown' by drama, music, reality-TV, talent shows, etc. Stuff where we don't have to think, just feel.

Of course in all our bodies we do have some elementals that are pure, loving and wise and which resonate strongly to our higher selves. We don't energise these enough, if we get too bogged down in emotional or intellectual game-playing, or information swapping, or attacking people because their elementals are not the same as ours and so we feel diminished when we encounter them.

Arguments with other people are just elementals antagonising each other and trying to get more energy out of the encounter.

:)

filinfinland
17-02-2010, 07:07 AM
No offense, and this is simply my view, but I fully reject that line of thought. I am tired of (some) people saying "there is no good or bad." While I agree, it is vital to shed many learned morals (simply because established religions taught it to you, etc.), you cannot tell me rape, molestation, and murder is "simply another experience." I don't buy it, my intuition says that is 100% wrong. Those brutal actions I mentioned go far beyond morals, and any advanced higher self would shun those actions.

Since we know that even within this physical 3 dimensional body, all our experiences are the result of electromagnetic waves. These can be generated by our senses, touch taste etc but are processed in the brain as signals, simple as that.

Since we also know that there is no limit to the possible frequency spectrum. Think of a frequency and double it, or half it. You can do this for infinity you won't find an end.

Given these two easily provable facts coupled with the fact that we know that we are only receiving a very narrow spectrum of the frequencies that we know exist.

Where do you put the balance point. What is the frequency below which all is evil and above which all is good.

I would be very interested to discover this information since i am too dumb myself to find the middle of infinity.

In light and love, for all expressions of consciousness, not just the ones that i can understand.

hepcatdsm
24-02-2010, 06:14 PM
No offense, and this is simply my view, but I fully reject that line of thought. I am tired of (some) people saying "there is no good or bad." While I agree, it is vital to shed many learned morals (simply because established religions taught it to you, etc.), you cannot tell me rape, molestation, and murder is "simply another experience." I don't buy it, my intuition says that is 100% wrong. Those brutal actions I mentioned go far beyond morals, and any advanced higher self would shun those actions.

Well what you are saying is true...IF! we are all INDIVIDUAL beings...but she clearly said that WE ARE ALL ONE 'being'! so if we are all the same(but experiencing at the same time in different 'bodies')...the only person you would be doing bad things too by kiling, etc....is yourself...if in that 'higher plane of existence' life/death is important for that being.

My personal view:
INFINITE possibilities of universes
INFINITE possibilities inside 1 universe
...infinite dimensions, infinite viewpoints...infinite ways to judge your surroundings

So in the 'big picture' nothing matters...because nothing happens...and no-one can judge relative to a 'Standard' for all possibilities

consciousness
25-02-2010, 08:15 AM
I know sometimes this people can suck you into an argument just for the fun of it. I had a few of them in the last two years. Where by work colleagues (minion demons) would make small talk about me. Then proceed to make that an issue, thus making me the old one out...so then it becomes a self fofilling prophecy.

This is one of things that has taken me a long time to understand and overcome. I use to believe people were rational beings that could understand the difference between right & wrong, but clearly they do not. But today i have master several techniques to deal with this, and stop it making me feel depressed.

If there is a creator (God, Buddha, Allah..ect) out there i hope he deals with these minions.

I have more to say, so i will be back later.

Revenge makes one feel good at times. Although it is far from oneness. I've come to appreciate that they are living their experiences out which they have pre-determined before their current incarnation. When getting into an argument, it's easy to forget that. I sometimes want to pick a fight just for the sake of it.

We are all better than that, and we need to realise that we need to take care of ourselves instead of focussing on others, and other's focus on us.