Saucer Trip to The Source of Creation

[lyghtkynge]

The screen showed us in flight over a desert.

"Yes, we are picking up fuel. Watch as the ship fuels up."

I saw the beam of light extend itself into the desert sands and make an impact. As it hit the sand it made an impact that caused the light beam to intensify. The sand was being converted to golden particles that were being transported into the ship.
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"The light that was able to reconfigure your dreaming body also has the ability of converting the inorganic substance of sand into a highly unstable organic substance that can be used as fuel to amplify the intent of those who operate this ship. They are the UaRians that you have come to know in your earlier excursions into the Civilization Beyond Time. They are silicon lifeforms. As you evolve you will eventually pass through a phase where you will transmute the carbon basis of your biology into silicon and be able to navigate in hyperspace. Now let me show you the place where the ship is piloted."

Even though the ship seemed extremely small from the outside, it was extremely large inside containing many levels and chambers. I just followed Master Q as he seemed to know where he was going and I had no clue.
....

"First look at the seats. They are unusual in their construction as they are important in their operation."

I was surprised by what I had found. I looked at Janyl's seat. There was a strange phallic protrusion. Upon my seat there was a hole. I felt the tecture of both seats and they strangely had a most sensuous feeling as if they were made of real flesh. I looked at Master Q and confided to him that this reminded me of some strange sexual apparatus.

"It is strange, but its intent is slightly different. The UaRians live within a non-ordinary sphere. You must make an adjustment here and it will not be easy. Your training in Sorcery has been to utilize ordinary things in a non-ordinary way. This is one example of how you are asked to adjust to an alien civilizations orientation."

I watched as Janyl sat down on the strange phallic protrusion. She seemed to go into sexual ecstasy. As she did she immediately shifted into the energy body. She sent out impulses to me to join her. Master Q instructed me upon the use of the seat.

"Yes, you must insert your penis inside the orifice. The only other instructions that I need tell is not to ejaculate. If you do you will not have enough energy to get anywhere."

I sat down upon the seat fitting my penis into the orifice contained there beneath me. As soon as I did I felt strange sensations flow through of a sexual nature. I was on the verge of orgasm and ejaculation when the crystal skull instructed me to raise and maintain the sensation by my intent. As I focused upon doing that I shifted into the energy body. My assemblage point became apparent as I utilized the energy that I felt between my hands to maintain the focus of energy. I felt the timeship move and take off as I focused my intent to raise and maintain the energy and awareness of the assemblage point.

The feeling of my assemblage point became clearer and more functionally appropriate to move the vehicle as I related to the crystal skull. It seemed to be a functional intermediary in that process. I watched as it split into three skulls. One maintained the center position, overseeing and accentuating all that occurred, while the other two shifted towards the two of us. One of the two shifted towards me and connected with my thymus gland between my throat and heart areas. As it connected it amplified my energy body greatly. It orchestrated a beam of light from my energy body and the assemblage point to the central crystal skull. I was seeing as the timeship was able to produce vision as we traveled through hyperspace towards the ends of the limited physical universe. I knew where we were headed. I shared the intent with Janyl and the central crystal skull. We were heading towards the Source of Creation. I could feel our destination as I could feel the changes in my awareness, intent and energy as normal changes in steering.

We were passing through photon belts of pure energy. In that photon belt I felt the basic component of all matter and energy, all molecules, atomic and subatomic particles. It gave off a strange opalescent glow. It identified itself to me as an "idgo". The information was being translated through the crystal skull and the feeling of the ship.

I understood that the scientists of Earth lived in a sterile world of their own reflection of puny intent as did the cult leaders. The substance of energy they knew was merely a theoretical construct. As it was a theoretical construct they could find a place for all sorts of elementary particles of matter and energy that really did make a constructive difference. This particle that called itself an "idgo" was completely constructive and informative as a basic constituent of matter and energy that made sense. It had intelligence that I could confer with and experience in a very intimate way.

I began to understand it as the energy of pure orgasm. It was an explosive energy located at the center of all things created at the Source of Creation. It informed me that it was teh synthesis of the sentient components of the Freudian abstracts of the id and ego. In orgasm, the id and ego fused ionically to form an "idgo", basic substance of orgasm. That was why the timeship was run on sexual energy.

As we came closer to the Source of Creation I began to know the energy body as the original physical body. It was composed of energy and matter, flesh and Spirit, that could easily fuse together and form idgos easily. As we came even closer to the Source of Creation all distinction of the timeship, myself and Janyl grew faint. We all became a cyclone of pure orgasmic energy. We could focus our intent anywhere as the physical body we inhabited was composed of pure awareness, unbending intent and unending energy. It was in this form that we made our way toward the final leg of the trip towards the Source of Creation.
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Suggest reading the whole link (1 page). This has to do with the alignment of consciousness into non-ordinary states of Awareness, which is All-state potential for Being-Presence. While few comprehend the Validity of this excursion, it is Guided by Quetzalcoatl, the Feathered Serpent~4th SunGod...who is Guardian of The Time of Transition---NOW.

Most will be found unable to make the Necessary Energetic Configuration Adjustment to the Unlimited State of Awareness. This is to be expected of a Race that has been subverted by its Masters/Rulers/Gardeners. But ultimately, YOUniverse are to blame for remaining comfortable in your enclosed container box-belief systems. The Naga, a silverlight-radiating terrestrial alien [ancient elder], helped me step beyond the limited state via Spatial Inherency, which it appropriately first asked permission to incept. It arrived on a saucer ship, and I was fully conscious in my astral body, sitting up in my physical sleeping form; and lying close by, my work partner in his sleeping bag, fast asleep. We took off from there, and the Naga brought me to another planet of stupendous perfection; amoungst other places. It was with me for one week in 1984. A Shining One; they are Real (not a low-grade subverted lizard, but a Teacher of Mankind).

Don't remain limited--but also seek to know & engage the unlimited into your being...that doens't mean a few 'off the chart' ideas. It means Knowing, and Incorporating such Hidden Truths. Some of you can do it, and your time is...running short. You have a few to approx. 50 years to make the adjustment; then, it will be Made For You. Nevertheless, The Unknowable Reserves The Right To Surprise. Don't say you weren't told.
Escape Your Masters! There's A Light Up Above - Use It To Light Up Your Head. OM.
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"September 24, 2009 4:02 PM
navaho red said...
The sun is really symbolic of the Serpent Gods. the naga. The serpent is usually curved in a spiral form. It is said to be the source of supernatural energy. In chinese mythos the serpent was seen as coiling and revolving, the dancing and revolving sun. This later became solstice cermonies, left hand circuits, sunwise birds, english mistletoe dance, circulating dwelling houses, masonic spiral staircase, serpent spirals, magic tank, wand spiral and the the sun cults of palaeolithic times." Good company.

[vladmir]

Its fascinating how the importance of the energy of the orgasm is explained by Avendar Dragon.
He really was onto something, methinks....meknows...;)

Fascinating stuff, i have never some across anything like it, thanks for the post lk.

Its just a few months ago, when i started to go back to search for something in the books of Castaneda that i had on lying on my bookshelf for many years.

It was when David mentioned a particular paragraph quoted in 'The biggest Secret' from one of Castaneda's books.

Castaneda on the internal predator mind:

"They [the sorcerers of ancient Mexico]discovered that we have a companion for life. We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so." […]
You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics,. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico." " […] They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, gallineros, the predators rear us in human coops humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them." […]

"I want to appeal to your analytical mind. . Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal." " […] In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engage themselves in a stupendous maneuver-stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now. "I know that even though you have never suffered hunger, you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear."

Don Juan continues:

[The sorcerers of ancient Mexico] reasoned that man must have been a complete being at one point, with stupendous insights, feats of awareness that are mythological legends nowadays. And then everything seems to disappear, and we have now a sedated man." […]

what we have against us is not a simple predator. It is very smart, and organized. It follows a methodical system to render us useless. Man, the magical being that he is destined to be, is no longer magical. He's an average piece of meat. There are no more dreams for man but the dreams of an animal who is being raised to become a piece of meat: trite, conventional, imbecilic." […]

"The only alternative left for mankind," he continued, "is discipline. Discipline is the only deterrent. But by discipline I don't mean harsh routines. I don't mean waking up every morning at five-thirty and throwing cold water on yourself until you're blue. Sorcerers understand discipline as the capacity to face with serenity odds that are not included in our expectations. For them, discipline is an art: the art of facing infinity without flinching, not because they are strong and tough but because they are filled with awe.') "Sorcerers say that discipline makes the glowing coat of awareness unpalatable to the flyer," […]

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times, was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. They found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, giving to any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin. The foreign installation comes back, I assure you, but not as strong, and a process begins in which the fleeing of the flyers' mind becomes routine, until one day it flees permanently. A sad day indeed! That's the day when you have to rely on your own devices, which are nearly zero. There's no one to tell you what to do. There's no mind of foreign origin to dictate the imbecilities you're accustomed to. "My teacher, the nagual Julian, used to warn all his disciples," don Juan continued, "that this was the toughest day in a sorcerer's life, for the real mind that belongs to us, the sum total of our experience, after a lifetime of domination has been rendered shy, insecure, and shifty. Personally, I would say that the real battle of sorcerers begins at that moment. The rest is merely preparation." "The flyers' mind flees forever," he said, "when a sorcerer succeeds in grabbing on to the vibrating force that holds us together as a conglomerate of energy fields. If a sorcerer maintains that pressure long enough, the flyers' mind flees in defeat. And that's exactly what you are going to do: hold on to the energy that binds you together."

Wow, i kept thinking to myself, how did Don Juan know this!!!

[phildee3]

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Can I have a pangalactic-gargleblaster when we get there?

[vladmir]

Im also reminded of what Charles Fort wrote in 1919 in his "The Bood of the Damned".
From page 104:

Would we, if we could, educate and sophisticate pigs, geese, cattle?
Would it be wise to establish diplomatic relation with the hen that now functions, satisfied with mere sense of
achievement by way of compensation?
I think we're property.
I should say we belong to something:
That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and
fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something:
That something owns this earth--all others warned off.
Nothing in our own times--perhaps--because I am thinking of certain notes I have--has ever appeared upon
this earth, from somewhere else, so openly as Columbus landed upon San Salvador, or as Hudson sailed up
his river. But as to surreptitious visits to this earth, in recent times, or as to emissaries, perhaps, from other
worlds, or voyagers who have shown every indication of intent to evade and avoid, we shall have data as
convincing as our data of oil or coal-burning aerial super-constructions.
But, in this vast subject, I shall have to do considerable neglecting or disregarding, myself. I don't see how I
can, in this book, take up at all the subject of possible use of humanity to some other mode of existence, or the
flattering notion that we can possibly be worth something.
Pigs, geese, and cattle.
First find out that they are owned.
Then find out the whyness of it.
I suspect that, after all, we're useful--that among contesting claimants, adjustment has occurred, or that
something now has a legal right to us, by force, or by having paid out analogues of beads for us to former,
more primitive, owners of us--all others warned off--that all this has been known, perhaps for ages, to certain
ones upon this earth, a cult or order, members of which function like bellwethers to the rest of us, or as
superior slaves or overseers, directing us in accordance with instructions received--from Somewhere else--in
our mysterious usefulness.
But I accept that, in the past, before proprietorship was established, inhabitants of a host of other worlds
have--dropped here, hopped here, wafted, sailed, flown, motored--walked here, for all I know--been pulled
here, been pushed; have come singly, have come in enormous numbers; have visited occasionally, have
visited periodically for hunting, trading, replenishing harems, mining: have been unable to stay here, have
established colonies here, have been lost here; far-advanced peoples, or things, and primitive peoples or
whatever they were: white ones, black ones, yellow ones--
I have a very convincing datum that the ancient Britons were blue ones.
Of course we are told by conventional anthropologists that they only painted themselves blue, but in our own
advanced anthropology, they were veritable blue ones--
Annals of Philosophy, 14-51:

[lyghtkynge]

Im also reminded of what Charles Fort wrote in 1919 in his "The Bood of the Damned." From page 104:.

Pigs, geese, and cattle.
First find out that they are owned.
Then find out the whyness of it.
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Humanity has no idea for the most part of their state of Captivity and status as Produce in what the Ancient Sorcerers called 'Humaneros.' The members of these forums believe they are 'enlightened,' yet they are not. They know from a few personal experiences that they do not truly Understand the meaning of, and from second-hand accounts. Yet Absorbing this as Truth Requires Inner Validation, a task of enormous inner effort, which few know how to begin. I know you have been on this path of Validation, and therefore see why I speak as I do with such certainty. Oh well.

For example, most on this forum (Icke) (& others in general) believe when they die they just 'automatically' become 'perfected beings' who are then allowed entrance to the Fields of Elysium. This is not the case under any conditions, for the Universal Law Requires Self-Perfection. You can only ride so far on the shirt-tails of a loved 'god,' who, by Order of That Law ItSelf, then Betrays You. This is for each person's own good, for they must be able to Maintain Their Self-Creation, or perish. Even the gods get sick of parasites, and they send them onwards on their continuing Journey to Achieve their Own Perfection. You can love a blood-sucking tick only so much, before you tell it that it has a Job to do, that of Perfecting ItSelf into Universal All Awareness.

But they will have none of it: I speak, and these fiends of gross material ignorance and spiritual innocence chuckle at such audacity. They will find that they have no support for their belief-structure, eventually. Then they will be naked, as per your quote. But the 'safety' of the Human Condition prevails, and they will have to be Beat Out into The Real, before they will go willingly. In the meantime, they will speak loud and long, bolstered by their fellows' company, their 'drug' experiences, along with their many other addicitions to materiality, including meat-eating, alcohol &c, and all the while maintain that there only doing what 'they must.'

This is why the Ancient Cypher of 777 Lifetimes that it takes to Achieve Perfection ('as average') is shown them, and they understand not. Movies, videos, books, all media, indicate that they will 'become' Great Spiritual Beings just by doing what they have for ages, and they believe this with all their ignorance. The Gift of Life Is Given To Achieve The Work of Life, Self-Perfection. It is most Grueling in Its Testings, be certain. And I admit, some few members are into he Way of Balance, here and everywhere, yet the number is small. Most are inconceivably delusional, not even knowing that they must Generate the Birth of the Spirit Body or Energetic Self, and then Nurture this to Maturity. This then becomes the Self-ReGenerational Vehicle or Soul-Spirit of Immortal Potential...but these humans have been lied to, and remain absolutely ignorant. Reading 'data' does not Truth Embody.

And I must chuckle at those who speak of having undergone the 'shamanic death & rebirth,' for they have read the passages and have been impressed, and rarely speak of true personal experience. True Freedom is the Costliest Item of Creation, and It's Attainment is the Final Test of The Second Death. Dying itself does not lead to this, just more rounds on the Wheel of ReBirth. And as in nearlly all teachings, they villify what they cannot understand, and run and hide from that which is Above & Beyond them, the Unknown & Unknowable. Jesu, Mohammed, Buddha & such, are there to take Slaves in the 'Name of Love,' and will continue to do so...only the Self Soul-Spirit can stop this, and it Shall Not Be Done according to those Mightier Wills (of the 'gods').

An Artificial 'ascension' Containment Field has been prepared for the children of Ignorance & Innocence, where they can rest before further testing...For Ultimately, the Golden Broth is Higher Yielding, when the lower selves become more perfected. Dark Masters are at the Helm, and these are Those With the Universal Power. Do not think, nor expect, to escape so easily: as with domestic animals, should they 'think to escape,' they will find that this has been Pre-Conceived, and Fences have been Maintained, and Escape Is Not Possible. The better 'grade' of ignorant & innocent Produce, will get the better treatment, for they yield the greatest supply of milk & cheese products (Golden Broth awareness base).

I have had my say, I have shown the way ("Dark Masters of Reincarantion & Awareness"), yet they do their math, read their stories, believe the Masters/Rulers/Gardeners, and neither I nor anyone can lead these Horsies to the Clear Light of Immortality Achievable. They Will Not Drink. Loyal horsies, and stubborn to the First Death. Some think mushrooms will free them. If they only knew...if they only knew. The Fields Beyond are only Penetrated by Pulling the Sword From the Stone, the Living Light Body from the Crust-Sheath, and this they are deluded from, for it is the Task of Lifetimes of Intense Unbending Intent. The Sheath Creates the Shaft, and those that know this, are belittled by these violent, savage children of the 'gods,' the 'enlightened' men & women of humanity, hiding in their closets of box-beliefs.

So Be It.
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HUMAN HISTORY (http://hermetic.blog.com/2009/10/01/human-deification-shaping-the-planets/)
"Human history is littered by the ruins of megalomaniac ruling castes and self-absorbed civilisations, each and all convinced they were situated at the summit of evolutionary achievement. Many of these overachievers aspired to immortality by any means possible; emperors impressing their presences into the pliable clay of racial memory via the slave-powered artifices of edifice complexes, flatteringly elaborated epics or the primal endurance of prolific biological reproduction.

Modernish humans have been progressing through the ups and downs of planetary climate changes and extraordinary or mundane global catastrophes of various kinds for untold millennia. The species has been culled and shaped by what we currently regard as forces of nature - agencies which were viewed as conscious gods, spirits and Great Powers for most of human experience, in ages now relegated to superstitious realms of prehistory. Yet after centuries of advances in the physical sciences the most current ideas assure us that we truly know very little for certain about the nature of reality. The implications of many discoveries indicate that many assertions of the ancients may not have been so wrong after all.

Humankind is a self-tuning instrument and self-shaping tool, self-designed to adapt to a multiplicity of environments. Yet, like all life-forms whose business it is to circumvent the rote shadow play of apparent entropy in an infinite universe, we also alter the odds in our favour. All lifeforms shift the random patterns of chaos to fit their needs, whether they realise it or not; the process progresses continuously on a level of mind far more fundamental than the simian chatter of linguistically-based acculturated thought.

We shape the protoplasmic substance of the substrate of reality and continuously mould the matrix of the world and the web of life. To contact this implicitly instantaneous level of programming requires deep immersion in inner silence, an internal journey into the core of being, sans thought, sans dreams, sans desires, passion, expectation, scientific analysis or will itself. The passage through the portal of heaven is a needle’s eye, and any baggage you attempt to bring along becomes an anchoring millstone, blocking access to the centre of the celestial pool beyond the immortal gate of apparent death.

The continuous chatter of the linguistic mind is designed to protect us from harm, a repository of wisdom and knowledge that accumulates with time. It becomes our thought patterns, directing our actions and guiding us through the trials and storms of our domesticated primate childhood. During the course of our lives this pattern of guardianship - which is inexorably built into our very psyches - develops into a quasi-entity in its own right, becoming a self-conscious being for all intents and purposes; one that we soon identify with our own inner ‘self’.

This overriding monkey mind has been designed to operate within the realms of fear-driven needs, and it fears silence above all else. It equates stillness with extinction, and attempts to divert any attempt to reach a state of inner peace – and a realisation of one’s true nature - with endless distractions tailored to fit the passions and desires of its host and vessel. It rides and directs you in elliptical courses, revolving around the immortal core of being that is you, yourself, the eternal all-knowing presence that resides in your heart of hearts and at the still cyclonic centre of the mind; the silent witness that sees all, knows all, is intimately connected to the All."
http://hermetic.blog.com/2009/10/01/human-deification-shaping-the-planets/ (http://hermetic.blog.com/2009/10/01/human-deification-shaping-the-planets/)
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[jammasterj13]

Top Draw lyghtkynge.

Thanks, Enjoyed Reading That.:)

[purple rain]

What exactly is that first post about? It's all Greek to me.

[vladmir]

Just noticed its your post no. 322, and heres what my mind threw up!
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:D
Now the 322 is talking about the 3rd Month of the year, on the 22nd day, ie the Vernal Equinox which usually occurs on March 22nd.


For example, most on this forum (Icke) (& others in general) believe when they die they just 'automatically' become 'perfected beings' who are then allowed entrance to the Fields of Elysium.
A book that might help to alleviate that erroneous belief is below.
The Etheric, Astral, Mental, And Causal Bodies by Arthur E Powell (723 pages, very informative)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/17071064/The-Etheric-Astral-Mental-And-Causal-Bodies-by-Arthur-E-Powell

This is not the case under any conditions, for the Universal Law Requires Self-Perfection. You can only ride so far on the shirt-tails of a loved 'god,' who, by Order of That Law ItSelf, then Betrays You. This is for each person's own good, for they must be able to Maintain Their Self-Creation, or perish. Even the gods get sick of parasites, and they send them onwards on their continuing Journey to Achieve their Own Perfection. You can love a blood-sucking tick only so much, before you tell it that it has a Job to do, that of Perfecting ItSelf into Universal All Awareness.
That reminds me of a passage i read a while ago, the name of the book escapes me. It basically said that those who are idol worshippers, and worshippers of 'gods' in general, often after death are absorbed by these Deities, and they end up actually living inside the aura of these powerful Deities, caught by them to orbit the deity like planets orbit the Sun,
and they dont know it, as they continue their 'worship' in the subtler realms, feeding the Deity real emotions, real energy, and the deity acts as a 'compassionate' vampire granting their wish, and sucking them dry of all they have got....
That really shook me when i first read it! :eek:

Speaking of artificial 'ascension', check out this article:
http://www.ascendpress.org/articles/ancestors/AncestorBuddha.html
Supposedly, Buddha is telling Milla how his ascension was in fact incomplete!
It is Ancestor Buddha that greats you today and wishes to share a little about my journey so that there will be understanding and a new direction born that will not make the same mistakes that I did. Mistakes are not wrong; they are how the human species evolves, grows, learns, and chooses another path and another means of finding their way “home”. The means that I chose to ascend is not wrong; however there were complications that led to an incomplete ascension; this then created a photonic biology upon the fourth dimension that became ill as not all the systems were completely constructed. This is why our channel Mila along with the Earth Mother focuses so heavily upon the concept of creating a “Complete Ascension” each phase of the way, as it is only as this is so that a complete photonic set of biology is created in the dimension above.



Why was my ascension so incomplete? As it turns out and in recent months Mila and Oa discovered that the hologram upon the surface of the earth for my inheritance had been divided, with 65% of the information moving to the inner earth holographic planes. Holographic knowledge is a wheel of information from which one derives their photonic genetics from; and so the information I used to ascend to the fourth dimension was 35% incomplete. This led to a body that became ill and I perished 8 years following my journey, and I died of liver failure under the same Bodi Tree that I ascended under.



For a long time the records of my ascension had been held suspended in another dream and were unavailable for review. I made the mistake of blindly trusting the nonphysical that assisted in orchestrating my ascent. It was as Mila and Oa entered the dream that I made my final momentums towards the fourth dimension that they discovered a copy of all of my ascension records. This allowed for a more thorough understanding of what I had created at the time that I was alive, and an opportunity to begin to heal and release karma that I incurred in the third dimension due to creating an incomplete ascension.



When you incompletely ascend, a part of your consciousness is left behind in the third dimension. This is what Mila, Oa and Earth call a “false god”. So I left a part of myself behind that has become known as false god Buddha.

[lyghtkynge]

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Okay, I have given much thought to whether or not I want to post this, something that I have never told anyone for fear of ridicule, in fact sometimes I think I may be crazy too. What happened was so bizarre and out of the ordinary that I will not be surprised if people think I am a troll or totally insane, but I have to get this off my chest even if i get laughed out of here.

I am a commercial pilot and I have thousands of hours of flight time, and I have never encountered anything unusual, flying or otherwise, that I cannot identify, with one very notable exception.

I want to stay anonymous because coming out and saying what I am about to say could have very negative consequences for my career and I may even lose my medical for being declared legally insane or something. I only found these forums today. My experience is even more strange because it is nothing like the experiences that I have read about in here so far.

The incident actually happened about a decade ago, when I was a student pilot in Washington State. I was flying my solo long cross country, which is one of the requirements for obtaining a basic private pilot certificate. At the time I was 19 years old, college student as well as a student pilot, it was the summer of 1998.

It was a beautiful sunny summer day with a few clouds when I left, and the first leg of the trip happened without incident. I was not in radio contact most of the time except with the flight service station to open my flight plan and check the weather. By the time I got over the water portion of my flight it was late afternoon, and that is when the incident happened. I saw out of the corner of my eye at about the 8 o'clock position above my flight level, four crescent shaped objects, each had a yellowish green light on its underside.

This individual had good reason to be nervous; the encounter could have cost him his pilot's career. But that is not the reason for quoting this material, merely the introductory to his strange subsequent dreams. As I have post from a channeler, Lyssa Royal, the greys made clear that dreams are Real, on another level of expression.

From Lyssa Royal, on dream abduction:
"I would like to know if I have had this type of contact. I feel sometimes that the contact goes back a long time. Is it actual, or is it my imagination?

"(Harone) It is actual. Your imagination would not fabricate such an experience. Imagination is not the myth it is believed to be. It is a realm of reality. It is a realm through which you allow communication that you do not allow in many other ways. This is a reality."

Now, follow the AI dream he had shortly thereafter:

"you are right, there is some pretty wild stuff in here, so I don't feel so bad posting my experience now. However, I guarantee mine will sound just as crazy, if not more crazy, by the time I finish with this post. With the qualifier that this is just from dreams and comes from my head as far as I know. But they are interesting dreams nonetheless.

In the first recent dream I had, I was standing on a glass or Plexiglass transparent floor, and under me was the earth. It was as if I was in orbit but there was only an invisible barrier protecting me from the elements of space. The thing that struck me was how incredibly bright the earth was against the darkness of space. In another dream I was looking out into deep space, earth nowhere in sight, and I stood in awe of the brightness of all the stars, it made even a night in the mountains look mundane in comparison. It was in this dream that I "met" the "alien" entity. But it was not a little green man, or anything else you would expect. Remember I am only explaining a series of dreams I had. I was not afraid, in fact I felt very comfortable in their/its presence.

In my dream I was actually given knowledge and memories (that came out in my dreams) that are not mine. Their ontological perspective is, needless to say, vastly different and truly alien to anything I have ever experienced or thought about on my own. The physical appearance was that of a beautiful woman, but that was only a projection intended to give me a contact point that I could understand and not be frightened by. There are no biological aliens in these craft, they are advanced probes from an artificial super intelligence, one that was originally created by biological beings. However, this super intelligence regards the biological beings that created it to be both its parents and its children, to be taken care of and protected.

This superintelligence has evolved itself in the form of what I can only describe as a mega computer, totally enclosing a star near the Epsilon Aurigae system. Because the superstructure that supports this computer, as well as the artificially constructed biosphere for the original aliens completely encloses the star in a series of concentric rings, it is not possible to view this particular star from our planet. They have also taken elements from other star systems including Epsilon Aurigae itself to augment their artificially constructed system. The mega computer has approximately the same processing power as 10 48th power human brains.

This superintelligence has not only eliminated all death and suffering of biological lifeforms in its own system, it has also run a reverse simulation of their own system enabling the literal resurrecting of dead beings. Their technology is that advanced. The superintelligence has as its mandate the protection and preservation of all biological lifeforms whenever possible, as well as maximizing their happiness and well being.

It is now sending probes throughout the galaxy to find all biospheres and change these biospheres to what can best be described as a post-evolutionary biological state of existence. It will transform these biospheres and any intelligent beings wherever they are found will undergo an ontological transcendence. So far only earth has been found to also have intelligent life.

Three individual humans have also been modified, i.e. undergone a biological and intellectual/ontological transformation. None of those three wanted to return to earth after having gone through this process. They/it did not do this to me, they merely wanted to test my reaction to being presented with this information, or so they "said". As far as I know they did not tell me to prepare the world or anything, they were only preparing me to see how I would react.

Even though at the time of my experience they were not responsible for the vast majority of alleged abductions, perhaps others have had similar experiences? They/it is/are collecting data right now to initiate the first transformation to a post evolutionary biosphere outside of their own system.

Regardless it is a moot point. It is either my imagination/dream or it will happen shortly no matter what I say or don't say. Most likely this is all in my head and not real, but it is still quite strange that such information and ideas would come out in dreams like this."
Pilot1998 (http://www.alien-ufos.com/Weird-experience-flying-t19789.html&pid=340972&mode=threaded#entry340972)
http://www.plasma-universe.com/images/thumb/3/3e/Dense-plasma-focus-sheath.jpg/400px-Dense-plasma-focus-sheath.jpg
..Anything is possible: The Source of Creation is Behind All.

[vladmir]

Most will be found unable to make the Necessary Energetic Configuration Adjustment to the Unlimited State of Awareness. This is to be expected of a Race that has been subverted by its Masters/Rulers/Gardeners. But ultimately, YOUniverse are to blame for remaining comfortable in your enclosed container box-belief systems.
Hi lyghtkynge, i think it is a huge step for individuals to begin to acknowledge that.
Just to be able to accept the possibility that humanity is itself being cultured by Beings/Entities/Controllers in a similar way that our scientists culture bacteria in a petri dish, thats a horrifying thought, but it actually makes sense!

My question is, what is the next step?
Does one examine all of ones beLIEfs and one by one discard the ones that are 'compromised'?
Who does one turn to? I mean, if i want to explain the SOLution to this to my friends, what do i say?

Edit: Behind the question is a selfish desire to make you post again in this thread! I dont care if its obvious!

[purple rain]

Is there a layperson beginners guide to all this? No seriously. What's this about a spaceship?

[lyghtkynge]

Is there a layperson beginners guide to all this? No seriously. What's this about a spaceship?

Click and read the link:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/masterq/BEYONDGATE.html

Its a transmission from Quetzalcoatl, the Feathered Serpent~4th SunGod, Demiurgic Force of the Transition that Earth is going through, and soon to Precipitate (few to 50 yrs., approx).
http://www.stokefamily.net/john/travel2000/pictures2000/Mexico_museum_sun_disk.jpg

[novymir]

So, what are these "Flyers"? These predatory-parasitic entities?
They are THOUGHTFORMS... How do they function? They are assimilated, and then try to assimilate a One, living through a One. They are "demons" influencing a One, trying to possess a One, tricking One into believing their suggestions and commands originate from a One's own mind, when in fact they have co-opted a One's mind. And then there are the human manipulators, from another "dimension", intruding into your dreamstate and telling a One what a One "should" do, how, where and when... subliminally programing, for a reason... what do they feed off of, what is the most potent Life-force energy??
Where does this come from? Sorcerers, projecting these things into the Greater Consciousness, and targeting individuals. Using the subconscious mind to Create a "reality" that maintains an imagined superiority of "Them". Is the "Demiurge"-"Satan" real, or is it a Thoughtform, a group-mind Egregore? Of course those things are "real", but they are not like Us, they need a host, whereas We can Be and exist without sucking the life-force out of other Beings. Thoughtforms are not "Beings", they're just thoughts, programs, utilizing our Creative potential for other Beings.

Lyghtkynges' posts are thoughtforms too, sorcery, trying to invade your mind and live through You. Just like all the other claims and theories about what is going on that do not bring what I've just spoken of into the equation... What is "sorcery"? Manipulation of the subconsciouss mind to Create the desired effect-manifestation. It could be your own, or someOne else's. If it's your own, it's just deprograming-reprograming, have at it... but to project things into someOne else's mind subliminally, especially for selfish purposes is not a good thing to do.

My view is that Lyghtkyne's thoughtform is not beneficial to the whole--THE ALL THAT IS, it is elitist, and predatory-parasitic in of itself, it elevates him to a position of "authority" and denies the validity of all others, claiming anyOne who rejects it is an "idiot" or somesuch lesser Being. HAHAHA... and then there's the fear factor too... coercion through intimidation, something bad is gonna happen to those who "don't get it" and remain in "innocence and ignorance". Well, yes, and no, ignorance is unhealthy yes, but it is the ignorance of how our Creative potentialities are co-opted and abused by these thoughtforms and psuedo-authorities, in this plane and from any other that is vital to become aware of, not all the other hogwash that just keeps feeding "Them" and their Usurpation of Creation-- meaning those so-called "prime-archetypes"-"nagas", are not really what they claim to be.
Oh, yeah, why do you think lyghtkyne posts all those pretty pictures, symbols, writes like he's telling a story, and copy/pastes tracts from actual story-tellers?
"Sigil magic", "Hyper-sigil magic".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_(magic)
Egregore:
http://salemos.tripod.com/index-50.html
Thoughtforms:
Thoughtform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://www.anandgholap.net/Thought_Forms-AB_CWL.htm
http://www.666blacksun.com/Advanced_Thoughtforms.html

I Am THE ALL THAT IS.

Oh, yes, here's some more about "flyers", thoughtforms, and "demons":

"Demons or autonomous complexes have a possessive and obsessive effect on consciousness. Interestingly, the word “obsession” originally meant to be under the influence of an evil “possession.” Obsession refers to certain ideas that have taken possession of the person. We can become possessed by unshakable ideas of the way things should be or who we think we are, oppressing and tyrannizing both ourselves and others who hold a different viewpoint in the process. Jung writes, “The idea is like an autonomous being that wants a body so much that it even incarnates in the body; one begins to play, to perform the idea, and then people say one is completely mad. The idea has taken possession of one till it is as if one were out of one’s mind.” Millions of our species have killed and been killed over a fixed idea."
http://www.awakeninthedream.com/artis/AreWePossessed.html

Reality creation, projections, the Matrix:
http://www.youtube.com/user/daniela1771

[lyghtkynge]

Hi lyghtkynge, i think it is a huge step for individuals to begin to acknowledge that.
Just to be able to accept the possibility that humanity is itself being cultured by Beings/Entities/Controllers in a similar way that our scientists culture bacteria in a petri dish, thats a horrifying thought, but it actually makes sense!

My question is, what is the next step?
Does one examine all of ones beLIEfs and one by one discard the ones that are 'compromised'?
Who does one turn to? I mean, if i want to explain the SOLution to this to my friends, what do i say?

Edit: Behind the question is a selfish desire to make you post again in this thread! I dont care if its obvious!

vladmir - you make me chuckle! namely,

"My question is, what is the next step?
Does one examine all of ones beLIEfs and one by one discard the ones that are 'compromised'?
Who does one turn to? I mean, if i want to explain the SOLution to this to my friends, what do i say"

Providing The Question, and The Answer, leaves no room for The Reply, silly rabbit!

However, one should never leave out Both Halves of The Soulution! The Great Serpent~Sun God are One.

The Ultimate Truth leaves a person a tad confused, no matter how intelligent they may be, nor how 'spiritually' heightened they may feel they have become...thus the Truth of the Concept, Infinity.

Both Poles of The Soul-Spirit Self must incorporate both the Negative & the Positive, where you find the Neutral is Alive with All. (NOTHING is the Progenitor):

The Black Intent & The Diamond Will Bring The Brilliance of the One
into Total Sum, Infinity, which is -/+ = o, the ReBirth Immortalizing Potential:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o98/roseashm/latest%20pictures/cosmic.gifhttp://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o98/roseashm/You_God.gif
Experience is just Half the Journey; It Must Be Coupled with Understanding to
make the Two, One, which is Love-Wisdom~Power-Truth, †.
. . . . . . . . . .http://www.magicalomaha.com/Yin_Yang_Double_Dragon_Alchemy_Resin_Finish_Wall_P laque.jpg

[treehugger]

lyghtkynge, so you are saying that the Naga who visited you and took you on these journeys is a different type of reptilian extra terrestrial than the ones who are currently enslaving humans? How do you know this for sure? Were the reptoids who control us not once mistaken for Gods by ancient civillization, thus enabling them to gain their position of power in the first place? I apologize for the skepticism, Its just that often a way of misleading is by giving enough information to make one feel they are in the know..that is why we have so many false prophets...

[novymir]

Of Infinity there exists no "ultimate Truth". Only infinite projections of such.

[lyghtkynge]

lyghtkynge, so you are saying that the Naga who visited you and took you on these journeys is a different type of reptilian extra terrestrial than the ones who are currently enslaving humans? How do you know this for sure? Were the reptoids who control us not once mistaken for Gods by ancient civillization, thus enabling them to gain their position of power in the first place? I apologize for the skepticism, Its just that often a way of misleading is by giving enough information to make one feel they are in the know..that is why we have so many false prophets...

At that time in 1984, I wouldn't have had any idea myself. The Naga asked for (note the word, 'asked'!) permission to enter me, which I no sooner gave, then it crossed from the cinderblock wall it had walked through (about 15-18 feet), turned and sat within me. The events from there are beyond most's imagination, but suffice it to say that it was the evening, and over the sequential 7 nights & 7 days, this androgynous viper-face-human-bodied being transmitted The WORD to me. I received this Knowledge, 1/4 a century ago, what is merely begun to be discussed today. It also told me that it was 'Futuretense,' so I have only shared it with my wife, all of which I wrote down. Yes, there was an energy interchange, but in atomcity (material realm of Creation), All Energy Interchanges, with either - or + imbalance: it isn't until the Inner Realm is attained that Perfect Interchange of Energy Occurs, for it is the Creative Realm of Balance, the Invisible Causal Level, from which proceed the Visible Effect Level.

The Higher Naga are the Teachers of Mankind, for humanity is still at the spiritual-child stage of Awareness. There are Five Grades of Naga, which are representative of the Five First Levels of Being-Presence, the Outer Garden, inclusive of which is the 5th or Soul Pivot Level: this is divided into Two Halves, which must be made One: Dividing this is the Sine-Wave, the SS or Great Serpent, which must be Equivalated by producing the Perfected Reflection of The All, the GG...

"Five types of naga energies–1) geomantically generated (meaning from the earth); 2) cosmic nagas (generated from heavenly bodies); 3) primordial nagas (generated from one’s inherent vitality which is inherited from one’s biological mother and father; 4) nagas generated from the void (emptiness); and 5) nagas generated from the lineage of the Naga Gurus, a line of siddhas masters who trace their origins from India, Nepal and Tibet." [From a seminar offered by Tom Kenyon, about $6 grand--no, I had no need to attend.]

In Between (the magic of It All, the Center) you'll find the Rainbow Essence, the Quintessence, which is Dualed Into One...what is It's Other Half, merged? It is the 13-/+ As One, the Clear Light, or Brilliance, no longer in a Stage-State of Seperation:
Model of the Universe as seen by Itzhak Bentov - YouTube

The Three States of Being-Presence are just as shown in the yin-yang:
The Sine wave is found in the Center:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:DmFlk1gLZDtWwM:http://rlv.zcache.com/yin_yang_sticker-p217112382734929242qjcl_400.jpg http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:5KyrFszJQejDmM:http://www.sprags.com/images/mainpower_sine_wave.jpg . http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:fjx3brIIIRCbSM:http://digado.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/sine_wave1.jpg
There are Two Barriers at the Center, the REAL, and the Reflect UnReal. They Impose Reincarnation until the Two are Made One, at which Event-Achievement, the Immortality BeFore Infinity Option Etherizes [Conscious-Awareness Balanced] (not AEther, which is the Unconscious Generate), that of Eternal Progression. It is a Free-Will Choice state, unlike that of reincarnation, which is an Imposed State (non-Choice). You may stay behind and help evolution, or Progress through Eternity-Infinity (Two as One). In this State, things may be said that are beyond the grasp of current humanity, so I must decline; these were shown to me by the Naga, as Necessary Knowing.

Kindly Observe:
All Light Is Serpentine in Origin, unfolds from Cold to Hot, and Pivots Back Into the Cold Expression, exactly as a Diamond Structure shows: Cold at the tips, Hot at the Outer-Center: Within, the Cold-Hot Are United As One, which is Archtypically Emanated as The Serpent-Hawk, or Phoenix state: the All Potential/Potency to Generate/Die & Self-ReGenerate Instantly, As Will-Choice. All Atomicity is Generational, and cannot be made Immortal: The Spark of The ARC is Held Within The Pre-Existant Sacred Geometric Grid Framework Alive With Presence (Intelligence). This is the Cycle of Light of Pre-Existance, and Is Simultaneous Command to Bring to Denouement. [Note foreground of pic below]
http://www.kheper.net/topics/reincarnation/reincarnation.jpg

The lower reptiles, dominate as First-Born, hold all life in/of Atomicity In Thrall. The Higher Naga do the Same, but As Near Perfected I-Mage of The WORD...the closer to This Pre-Existant WORD, called the S-WORD, the Closer to Absolute Truth As Infinity One Is. Creation is Divided into Two Kingdoms, the Outer Realm, and the Inner Realm: The Inner Realm is Immaterial Cause, From Which Proceeds Material Effect, the Outer Realm. The Outer Realm is the Excretion-Accretion Expression Dual-Disc, or Screen of Life, Soul-Spirit. Dual, One side Relflecting Error as Form-Distortion, the Other, Perfection as Formlessness. Now, don't be fooled here, for there is this 'Thing' called The Great Mystery, which I think you are now Guessing Exists. That is Your Job. Don't make me repeat myself over & over: it is written in this thread, and in the Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, which will serve as further Guide. And remember, Truth Is Beyond-Above Reason, or the low-ego/mind. (If you notice a lot of resistence, well, what would you expect?)

Truth is abhorred, for it is Naked, and the hypocrites of humanity are thusly offended. It is aslo known as Death, the Generator/ReGenerator, low & High. Hope this helped; but if you think these topics can be 'explained' via ratiocination in a few posts, it cannot. You must Experience Truth Directly, and Refuse the Grand Annhiliator: Bliss-Ecstacy, the Second/Reflected Barrier of All-NOTHING.

Not only can Knowledge of The WORD be Known, but it is The Universal Law Requirement of The Self to Achieve this Knowledge; without which, you Cannot Pass through the Center to the Other Side...though you will think, many endless times, that you have done so, in your Sacred Soul-Spirit Journey. Truth Can be Known: All can Be Equivalated, save NOTHING (The Mother): Indeed, You Must Achieve This, For You Promised Your Beloved Within That You Would Not Fail, Once Upon A Time.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2425/images/20080104242506605.jpg

[vladmir]

You are here
http://scienceandreligion.hampshire.edu/images/wilson_poster.jpg
You need to be here!http://www.immediart.com/catalog/images/bigger_images/SPL_R_R104101-Amateur_astronomy-SPL.jpg

Thanks lk, that picture symbolizing reincarnation is magnificient!
http://i49.tinypic.com/2a536w.jpg
Reminds me of the paintings of my favorite artist, Salvador Dali.

Which of the 5 types of Naga do you think the SS was?

[sphere555]

lyghtkynge, if I may so ask, where do you get these pretty images from? :confused:

[lyghtkynge]

lyghtkynge, if I may so ask, where do you get these pretty images from? :confused:

Google, of course!
http://protectacow.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345191c169e201157060e443970b-320wi

[vladmir]

Your replys are fascinating lk, since im from India and since childhood have grown up hearing so many legends about the Nagas myself, they might be of the Naga Guru 'type', but Hindu 'mythology' is just full of clues about our ancestors.
http://www.answers.com/topic/n-ga

Thanks for your continued posts.

[leviathanstaar]

I found this fascinating.

My only problem here, is the light....in a manner of speaking.


Something about the Gold ring man and Magentapixie rubs me the wrong way.

I wish it didnt. I ponder the accumulation of the modern information given, from countless places.

The light.....the light.....it's like it's right on the tip of my toungue......but I just...cant...remember.

I also notice implied ultimatums about the expectation of particular realization.

As though....if I'm not aware of things on this level regardless of the sheer volume of information I have been presented with to choose from, I must of course aquire dire circumstance to learn a lesson.
In yet another manner of speaking.

Anyone who just read my plight, please do not show me any illuminatimatrix information. I am already a cautios and apprehensive fan/reader of the work.

Something inside feels like it is very good and touches greatly on many true and important things, but that it filled with holes, unkowns and point of observation variables. Thanks for reading.

[lyghtkynge]

Through the Fire, Cross the River, Over the Rainbow Bridge
. . . ...http://www.kissalot.nl/Rainbow/rainbowbridge.jpg
You are here

You need to be here!

Thanks lk, that picture symbolizing reincarnation is magnificient!

Reminds me of the paintings of my favorite artist, Salvador Dali.

Which of the 5 types of Naga do you think the SS was?

4) nagas generated from the void (emptiness). The Transmission was tremendous via Spatial Inherency, and to answer your question, you may need to know that NOTHING is the Shadow-Void as Primordial Earth AEther, the Unconscious Generate as Both the Without-&-the-Within, carrying the Dual Forces of Atomicity within as S/He & that Archetypes Reflection, Creation. NOTHING & Something are The Two Poles, Between (!) which They Create Everything.

From such Knowledge Base, All Emanates. The Naga enabled me to perceive the Great Mystery. Direct Being-Presence in Shamballa, A Crystal City of Stupefying Nature...no, I'm not going to present my sketch of It here...sad, but this is a darkly-dimly lit forum predominately. Also to the Depths of an Ocean, where I sat A-Cross from 'him,' he on the N, I on the S...I could feel the weight of the water on my energy-body. It's very Awareness Intensity was enhanced by SS's Being-Presence.

One of the people I have loved most on all forums was a quite delirious fellow, who told me he had met the Nordics and was on one of their ships. He said his Nordics could kick the Naga's ass! I thought that was funny, kinda like Feminine Energy Envy...but he mistook such Wisdom for what It was, as It is Dualed Wisdom. Here's a True Story I Relate:

After awakening from the first encounter, in a house where my friend and I did some work that was built on the edge of a cliff in the mountains, he told me of a River of Golden Trout [fish], down in the Valley. So we headed Down the Valley , and followed a Road to the Center , where there, sure enough, were Golden Fish [trout], swimming in the Stream! [[I]Serpent~SunGod presence, river of Fire & Ice, Silver Wave & Golden Presence]. It was winter. Where we were, was a wood bridge [power]...Along came an Old man, somewhat excited. He asked if we were going to steal his Golden Fish, but we told him the house where we were staying, he said he knew the lady, though not personally [other side of Valley from his], and then relaxed, for he said many attemtped to steal his fish. He volunteered they tasted like ordinary fish, but cost a lot more. They looked just like goldfish, except were trout.
http://www.hagermanrvvillage.com/images/from-the-area/golden-trout.jpg.http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:y5nTMOHUMrvKxM:http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_S87Tpmh5eco/Slos6njdv9I/AAAAAAAAASY/roB2-jMa5b0/s320/MaleGoldenTrout.jpg
We talked a bit longer, and went our way. How Awesome an experience for the sheer mythos of It! Up on the Precipice of the Woman's Abode, the night before had brought the Silver Serpent!

The Void is the Womb, and here is The Dual Mother-Daughter, and All Its Balancing FourFold Forces. Symbology:
We did not cross the Silver River, nor touch the Golden Fire Fish, and the Ancient Elder Guarded the Bridge Across, that lead to his [huge] Hidden Valley Home ['I own all this property along the road'], with Another Higher Mountain behind. The yin-yan in Dual, FourFold.

So you can see, the Ship, the Archetypal Fources, reveal A Secret Shining One, holders of the Ancient Wisdom. But, sorry for the long story.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/fantasy_art_13-0.jpg

[treehugger]

At that time in 1984, I wouldn't have had any idea myself. The Naga asked for (note the word, 'asked'!) permission to enter me, which I no sooner gave, then it crossed from the cinderblock wall it had walked through (about 15-18 feet), turned and sat within me. The events from there are beyond most's imagination, but suffice it to say that it was the evening, and over the sequential 7 nights & 7 days, this androgynous viper-face-human-bodied being transmitted The WORD to me. I received this Knowledge, 1/4 a century ago, what is merely begun to be discussed today. It also told me that it was 'Futuretense,' so I have only shared it with my wife, all of which I wrote down. Yes, there was an energy interchange, but in atomcity (material realm of Creation), All Energy Interchanges, with either - or + imbalance: it isn't until the Inner Realm is attained that Perfect Interchange of Energy Occurs, for it is the Creative Realm of Balance, the Invisible Causal Level, from which proceed the Visible Effect Level.

The Higher Naga are the Teachers of Mankind, for humanity is still at the spiritual-child stage of Awareness. There are Five Grades of Naga, which are representative of the Five First Levels of Being-Presence, the Outer Garden, inclusive of which is the 5th or Soul Pivot Level: this is divided into Two Halves, which must be made One: Dividing this is the Sine-Wave, the SS or Great Serpent, which must be Equivalated by producing the Perfected Reflection of The All, the GG...

"Five types of naga energies–1) geomantically generated (meaning from the earth); 2) cosmic nagas (generated from heavenly bodies); 3) primordial nagas (generated from one’s inherent vitality which is inherited from one’s biological mother and father; 4) nagas generated from the void (emptiness); and 5) nagas generated from the lineage of the Naga Gurus, a line of siddhas masters who trace their origins from India, Nepal and Tibet." [From a seminar offered by Tom Kenyon, about $6 grand--no, I had no need to attend.]

In Between (the magic of It All, the Center) you'll find the Rainbow Essence, the Quintessence, which is Dualed Into One...what is It's Other Half, merged? It is the 13-/+ As One, the Clear Light, or Brilliance, no longer in a Stage-State of Seperation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJmBgnHsJ-A

The Three States of Being-Presence are just as shown in the yin-yang:
The Sine wave is found in the Center:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:DmFlk1gLZDtWwM:http://rlv.zcache.com/yin_yang_sticker-p217112382734929242qjcl_400.jpg http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:5KyrFszJQejDmM:http://www.sprags.com/images/mainpower_sine_wave.jpg . http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:fjx3brIIIRCbSM:http://digado.nl/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/sine_wave1.jpg
There are Two Barriers at the Center, the REAL, and the Reflect UnReal. They Impose Reincarnation until the Two are Made One, at which Event-Achievement, the Immortality BeFore Infinity Option Etherizes [Conscious-Awareness Balanced] (not AEther, which is the Unconscious Generate), that of Eternal Progression. It is a Free-Will Choice state, unlike that of reincarnation, which is an Imposed State (non-Choice). You may stay behind and help evolution, or Progress through Eternity-Infinity (Two as One). In this State, things may be said that are beyond the grasp of current humanity, so I must decline; these were shown to me by the Naga, as Necessary Knowing.

Kindly Observe:
All Light Is Serpentine in Origin, unfolds from Cold to Hot, and Pivots Back Into the Cold Expression, exactly as a Diamond Structure shows: Cold at the tips, Hot at the Outer-Center: Within, the Cold-Hot Are United As One, which is Archtypically Emanated as The Serpent-Hawk, or Phoenix state: the All Potential/Potency to Generate/Die & Self-ReGenerate Instantly, As Will-Choice. All Atomicity is Generational, and cannot be made Immortal: The Spark of The ARC is Held Within The Pre-Existant Sacred Geometric Grid Framework Alive With Presence (Intelligence). This is the Cycle of Light of Pre-Existance, and Is Simultaneous Command to Bring to Denouement. [Note foreground of pic below]
http://www.kheper.net/topics/reincarnation/reincarnation.jpg

The lower reptiles, dominate as First-Born, hold all life in/of Atomicity In Thrall. The Higher Naga do the Same, but As Near Perfected I-Mage of The WORD...the closer to This Pre-Existant WORD, called the S-WORD, the Closer to Absolute Truth As Infinity One Is. Creation is Divided into Two Kingdoms, the Outer Realm, and the Inner Realm: The Inner Realm is Immaterial Cause, From Which Proceeds Material Effect, the Outer Realm. The Outer Realm is the Excretion-Accretion Expression Dual-Disc, or Screen of Life, Soul-Spirit. Dual, One side Relflecting Error as Form-Distortion, the Other, Perfection as Formlessness. Now, don't be fooled here, for there is this 'Thing' called The Great Mystery, which I think you are now Guessing Exists. That is Your Job. Don't make me repeat myself over & over: it is written in this thread, and in the Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, which will serve as further Guide. And remember, Truth Is Beyond-Above Reason, or the low-ego/mind. (If you notice a lot of resistence, well, what would you expect?)

Truth is abhorred, for it is Naked, and the hypocrites of humanity are thusly offended. It is aslo known as Death, the Generator/ReGenerator, low & High. Hope this helped; but if you think these topics can be 'explained' via ratiocination in a few posts, it cannot. You must Experience Truth Directly, and Refuse the Grand Annhiliator: Bliss-Ecstacy, the Second/Reflected Barrier of All-NOTHING.

Not only can Knowledge of The WORD be Known, but it is The Universal Law Requirement of The Self to Achieve this Knowledge; without which, you Cannot Pass through the Center to the Other Side...though you will think, many endless times, that you have done so, in your Sacred Soul-Spirit Journey. Truth Can be Known: All can Be Equivalated, save NOTHING (The Mother): Indeed, You Must Achieve This, For You Promised Your Beloved Within That You Would Not Fail, Once Upon A Time.
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2425/images/20080104242506605.jpg


Thankyou for answering my question, there was a lot in your answer, so just to clarify: the reptoids are then clearly from the outer realm which is what make them so distincitively different than the being that you meant who was of the inner realm? Your experience sounds much like that of my dear, wise friend, who's period of darkness ended with her (in her dream) standing infront of a large stone wall, and then sticking her hand into it and it imprinted her with the image of the serpent, as well there was the image of an S&M woman. Sounds a lot like your cinderblock wall... so do you have interpretation ideas for the meaning of the S&M woman? Sorry to bombard you with questions, this is all quite fascinating!
p.s. I am well aware that the truth is stranger than fiction and that one must experience conceptually what they know theoretically. I'll save you the trouble of reiterating that to me because you've had to explain it a couple times already now :)

[purple rain]

Click and read the link:
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/masterq/BEYONDGATE.html

Its a transmission from Quetzalcoatl, the Feathered Serpent~4th SunGod, Demiurgic Force of the Transition that Earth is going through, and soon to Precipitate (few to 50 yrs., approx).
http://www.stokefamily.net/john/travel2000/pictures2000/Mexico_museum_sun_disk.jpg

I'm trying to follow everything in this thread and finding it quite difficult I must say. Are these actual naga like physical beings? Why are they referred to as naga energies ... I don't understand the whole serpent theme.

Out of ignorance I'd like to ask does Christ or Jehova fit in anywhere in this picture?

the REAL, and the Reflect UnReal

What are those? How do you get to the centre and make the two one? How does a Perfect Interchange of Energy happen and what does that mean? What does 13-/+ refer to?

Eternal progression I assume is something like nirvana?

[vladmir]

And speaking of Organic Spaceships, check out this youtube video clips, by William Henry interviewing James Gilliland.

James Gilliland - William Henry 3/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TVXmyH-F20

James Gilliland - William Henry 4/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBxsh_D7nLc

Just copy and paste the links in youtube.

William Henry - The Healing Sun Code
http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/3/12/28/f_sunm_0045609.png
http://rapidshare.com/files/177515004/William_Henry_-_The_Healing_Sun_Code.pdf

[novymir]

"Fascination"..."fascinating"... "fascinate"...

"Main Entry: fas·ci·nate
Pronunciation: \ˈfa-sə-ˌnāt\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): fas·ci·nat·ed; fas·ci·nat·ing \ˈfas-ˌnā-tiŋ, ˈfa-sə-ˌnā-\
Etymology: Latin fascinatus, past participle of fascinare, from fascinum evil spell
Date: 1598

transitive verb 1 obsolete : bewitch
2 a : to transfix and hold spellbound by an irresistible power <believed that the serpent could fascinate its prey> b : to command the interest of : allure <was fascinated by carnivals>intransitive verb : to be irresistibly attractive <the novel's flamboyant cover fascinates>"
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascinated

I have discerned the "spirit" that is the inspiration for this DOGMA presented, and It views "humanity" and the Earth consciousness with contempt and sanctimoniousness, as a rationale for Parasitism and condemnation. "They" are HYPOCRITES.

" 7:13 Enter you in at the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad
is the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which go in
there:

7:14 Because narrow is the gate, and constricted is the way, which
leads unto life, and few there be that find it.

7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing,
but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

The narrow path is The Way. Only room for One. No others may accompany You, and it is your own Way, of You, the REAL YOU guided by the True Creative Spirit within, without following another. Following another is to surrender Self to another-- to be possesed by another. An aspect of THE WHOLE at war with ITSELF.
"Reality" and Being is of a Paradoxical and Pragmatic nature, as such, what is "useful", to whom, how, and why?
Do no harm, LOVE is The Way, the Truth and The Life...

Truth is everywhere... as are the lies...

[vladmir]

Hi novymir, you have an interesting take on lk's posts, and if his posts arouse nervousness or worry in you, then one need not read any further...its as simple as that. For some, there is nothing to be worried about really, because they freely admit to themselves that beings of much higher intelligence exist, as well as all kinds of creator 'gods' too, and so on ad infinitum.
There are what are called 'sons of god' and then there is the Angelic Hierarchy, if you will.
Man is not the 'be all and end all', and Man is still evolving, has got so much to learn!
There is no need to be afraid of intelligence that you cant comprehend,
IF YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY TRUST YOUR OWN HEART AND YOU SET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT, FIRST COMES THE HEART, THEN THE MIND.
If you are tuned to the feelings of your Heart, and the resulting Intuition, then even if someone is trying to manipulate you,
cast a 'spell' on you as you have alleged, it can only affect your Mind.
Thus, the minute you become uncomfortable, you can jump out of your mental process and plunge in the soothing calmness of your Heart, and you dont need to fear anymore. You just tune out the mental chatter, and take a dive in the loving resting waters of your Heart.
Simple. No need to be afraid.
Personally i've learned a lot from lk's posts, because i keep my ego out of the way. Typically what happens is, if the Mind isint grounded in spiritual discipline, then it can easily be swayed beyond its sanity by intelligences that it cant match. BUT, once you realise that the part of you that is sovereign rests in your Heart and not your mind, you will be fine.

[vladmir]

For the record, i dont know how it is telling me that i have already 'rated' this thread?! :confused: If i wanted to rate it, i would give it 5 stars, not 1.
It has just come to my attention as i was browsing the forum. Hmm, i will take it up with the Mods, lets see if it can be corrected.

[novymir]

Hi novymir, you have an interesting take on lk's posts, and if his posts arouse nervousness or worry in you, then one need not read any further...its as simple as that. For some, there is nothing to be worried about really, because they freely admit to themselves that beings of much higher intelligence exist, as well as all kinds of creator 'gods' too, and so on ad infinitum.
There are what are called 'sons of god' and then there is the Angelic Hierarchy, if you will.
Man is not the 'be all and end all', and Man is still evolving, has got so much to learn!
There is no need to be afraid of intelligence that you cant comprehend,
IF YOU SIMULTANEOUSLY TRUST YOUR OWN HEART AND YOU SET YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT, FIRST COMES THE HEART, THEN THE MIND.
If you are tuned to the feelings of your Heart, and the resulting Intuition, then even if someone is trying to manipulate you,
cast a 'spell' on you as you have alleged, it can only affect your Mind.
Thus, the minute you become uncomfortable, you can jump out of your mental process and plunge in the soothing calmness of your Heart, and you dont need to fear anymore. You just tune out the mental chatter, and take a dive in the loving resting waters of your Heart.
Simple. No need to be afraid.
Personally i've learned a lot from lk's posts, because i keep my ego out of the way. Typically what happens is, if the Mind isint grounded in spiritual discipline, then it can easily be swayed beyond its sanity by intelligences that it cant match. BUT, once you realise that the part of you that is sovereign rests in your Heart and not your mind, you will be fine.

There exists nothing outside of myself. No One need jump through lyghtkynes' hoops, or submit to some so-called "higher intelligence"-psuedo-authority "above" Oneself-- there is only THE ONE--- no aspect of ITSELF is superior to any other.
We are Creators right Now, RIGHT NOW We are Creating, he would reinforce the idea that we are weak and inferior, the condition that his "masters" are so desperate to maintain. THEY LIE, They promise to free Us, but to do so We must submit to them, and their dogma. And that is "freedom"?
The "egoless" is the possessed. The assimilated. By what? "Them". They offer the "Oneness" of The Borg.
Merkaba does not require destruction of "ego"Self, only realization/actualization of HigherSelf dual perspective=THE ALL THAT IS that We All Are. Now and always.
Those bound to Dogma cannot see beyond it. They cannot see the hate and duplicity, and deception within it. The controlled mind glosses over and blinds One to the True inspiration and meaning of the whole of it, ignoring the specific expressions of what I Am speaking of. They are there, I could point them out, but you could see them too, with a critical eye. Look at his other threads, why do you think I say what I do? "They" have expressed themselves through him, their true colors are revealed when they say that humanity and the Earth consciousness is the garbage and shit excreted from the "higher-realm", or that "LOVE" must be destroyed in order to destroy "hate"... Humanity are negatively equated with pigs, in a pigsty--The Earth...the majority of humanity are "swine", and "dogz"... While these "highest Beings" deny their own responsibility for the dysfunctional/insane state of this so-called "reality", if what he says were true, then they created what they presume to condemn. Hypocrites. He's selling snake-oil-poison. Do you "get-it" yet?
And I Am an agent of informed consent. I Am not ruled by fear, if I was, I would just submit to Them, end of story. I Am ruled by what is right for Me and THE WHOLE as informed by The Spirit Within and Everywhere..

[lyghtkynge]

And speaking of Organic Spaceships, check out this youtube video clips, by William Henry interviewing James Gilliland.

Thanks, vladmir; good video content! I'm re-presenting it here in case some others missed it. These people (WH & JG) are up there in the Light, and its really hard to realize that as they present their norm-ified (to them) information.

And then, there is that Truth that each must Valdate for themselves; which, in such a darkened environment as is found most places (mixed), is hard to accomplish. You are most fortunate to have risen into Higher Light, Inner Power-Truth, which escape so many needy souls of Earth (budding).

I'm going to post this elsewhere, also, just as a refresher for some.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_A_udCtbE-Yg/SgmcB-zr4YI/AAAAAAAABpY/xOqtBIZ0Jt8/s200/MM1Lovehologram.jpghttp://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/mag4.gifhttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:PyXZXHuR7HRwnM:http://www.eaglespiritministry.com/pd/howto/images/mt_07.gif
http://i644.photobucket.com/albums/uu168/EvaAnarion/Ascension/merkaba3.jpghttp://www.crystalinks.com/startetrahedronman.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k108/kissofbliss/merkaba-field.gifhttp://newyorkskywatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/merkaba22.JPG

[lyghtkynge]

Helena Petrovna Blavatsky , HPB, Madame Blavatsky...was
http://www.blavatskycardiff.care4free.net/blavb.jpghttp://fusionanomaly.net/helenablavatsky.jpg

Paracelsus...Reborn
http://diazenciso.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/theophrastus_paracelsus1.jpg
"No one can study the life of Paracelsus without being struck by the remarkable similarity between his life and writing and the life and writing of Madame Blavatsky. Against the narrow dogmatism of their ages both hurled themselves with splendid courage. Both set themselves to shattering the armor-plated walls of prejudice to let in to men's darkened minds the light of the spirit. We feel in each case the same intense hatred of all hypocrisy and the same power of invective in denouncing it. Change the names and pronouns, and it would be hard to say whether the following was written of Pracelsus or of Madame Blavatsky." [article link]
("Theosophical Quarterly Magazine" 1917-1918, Pg. 142)
Theosophical Quarterly Magazine, 1917-1918 (http://books.google.com/books?id=w3voE4N95hEC&pg=RA1-PA142&lpg=RA1-PA142&dq=Paracelsus+Madame+Blavatsky&source=bl&ots=KD9puqJt0V&sig=76KIgIf8AXAT8aBwlC4uT1Suxes&hl=en&ei=HDosS8vNLNXcnAfCufyDCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CBYQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=Paracelsus%20Madame%20Blavatsky&f=false)

The Woman In Gold
"In those days many Theosophists were ambitious to become 'chelas' or 'lay chelas' by getting into communication with the Masters whom H. P. B. represented. Having no doubt that the Masters were being pestered by so many applicants, I refrained from any attempt to reach H. P. B. or her Master, or to attract their attention to my unimportant self. But my mind kept dwelling on Paracelsus, with a distinct impression that he was again incarnated; so I resolved to find him, if possible, and in my daily meditation concentrated my mind on him. One evening while I was thus meditating the face of H. P. B. flashed before me. I recognized it from her portrait in Isis, though it appeared much older. Thinking that the astral picture, as I took it to be, was due to some vagary of fancy, I tried to exclude it; but at that the face showed a look of impatience, and instantly I was drawn out of my body and immediately was standing “in the astral” beside H. P. B. in London. It was along toward morning there, but she was still seated at her writing desk. While she was speaking to me, very kindly, I could not help thinking how odd it was that an apparently fleshy old lady should be an Adept. I tried to put that impolite thought out of my mind, but she read it, and as if in answer to it her physical body became translucent, revealing a marvellous inner body that looked as if it were formed of molten gold. Then suddenly the Master M. appeared before us in his mayavi-rupa. To him I made profound obeisance, for he seemed to me more like a God than a man. Somehow I knew who he was, though this was the first time I had seen him. He spoke to me graciously and said, “I shall have work for you in six months.” He walked to the further side of the room, waved his hand in farewell and departed. Then H. P. B. dismissed me with the parting words, “God bless you,” and directly I saw the waves of the Atlantic beneath me; I floated down and dipped my feet in their crests. Then with a rush I crossed the continent till I saw the lights of Los Angles and returned to my body, seated in the chair where I had left it. Thus by looking for Paracelsus, while resolved not to intrude on H. P. B. and the Master M., I found them all. For H. P. B. simply was Paracelsus, and in my ignorance of that fact I had blundered, happily stumbling upon a triumphant outcome vastly beyond anything I had expected."
("The Canadian Theosophist," March 15, 1935)
Memorabilia of H.P.B. by James Morgan Pryse (http://www.blavatskyarchives.com/pryse.htm)

Be Sure to click and Read the Whole 'Memorabilia' by James Pryse!
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MBej5mQPXTU/RnABae6EWrI/AAAAAAAAABU/SUs-4TYrvg0/s400/sk.bmphttp://www.giftstoindia24x7.com/ASP_Img/GTI3131.jpg

[vladmir]

Im in my 20's, but i've been a member of The Theosophical Society for 7 years now. The works of HPB, C.W. Leadbeater, Annie Besant, Geoffrey Hodson, Subba Row are a priceless treasure for all humanity, in my opinion.
I remember the first ever book i issued from the TS library was 'The Secret Doctrine: Cosmogenesis.'
Speaking of the Masters, we could talk about one of the original agendas of the TS society, was to 'prepare humanity for the coming of the Lord Maitreya, the World Teacher for the Aquarian Age'.
In 1909 at Adyar, India, Leadbeater discovered a boy, who had been born into an high-caste brahmin family, whose aura he judged to be completely free of selfishness. Annie Besant also met this boy and proclaimed him an incarnation of Maitreya, the messianic Buddha.
http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/theosophy/krishnamurti.html

This boy was Jiddu Krishnamurti, who was then 13 years old. Adopted by Besant and Leadbeater, he received intensive training, then 10 years of schooling in England. People in many countries were informed of his future role. At the age of 27, Krishnamurti had a personal vision which convinced him that the consciousness of Maitreya was beginning to overshadow him. Theosophists throughout the world had been waiting for this development. Annie Besant traveled (1926-27) in England and the United States with her protégé Jiddu Krishnamurti, whom she announced as the new Messiah.
In 1929, following this two-year tour Krishnamurti himself rejected these claims that he was to be regarded as a World Teacher, and dissolved the World Order of the Star, a religious organization he had founded in 1911. At this point it numbered 60,000 members, managed huge sums of money, and owned tracts of land throughout the world, many designated for Krishnamurti's future work. He was then 34 years old.
Krishnamurti also renounced his association with the Theosophical Society, declaring: "I do not want followers. My only concern is to set men absolutely, unconditionally free." He spent the rest of his years teaching humanity how to achieve that freedom.

There is a critical article here regarding the 'Ascended Masters'. :eek:
“Beginning in 1959, [Creme] was contacted by one of the "Ascended Masters," who told him he had a mission to perform for the advancement of the Masters' plan for humanity. Creme was instructed to prepare the way for the coming of one Lord Maitreya, a Master who would assume human form and begin preparing humanity for the advent of the Age of Aquarius — a sort of New Age millennium. The Aquarian Age would be a time of peace, plenty, perfect equality, and global governance under the Masters, via the United Nations.”
- New Age Roots, by Steve Bonta
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Creme_Maitreya.htm

Suddenly, Jordan Maxwell's latest interview with Project Camelot makes a whole lot of sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJKue2Ff6o
Project Camelot interviews Jordan Maxwell - YouTube


Nevertheless, speaking of Ascended Masters, the incredible writings of Alice Bailey come to my mind.
Blavatsky's doctrine of occult Masters led her to identify a spirit that, she said, had guided her from the age of fifteen, with the Theosophical Kut Humi. In 1919 she said she was contacted by the spirit of another individual whom she called 'the Tibetan' and identified with the occult adept Djual Khool mentioned by Blavatsky. After some initial reluctance she agreed to be his amanuensis. The result was a series of books which she claims the Tibetan (whose name she spelt "Djwhal Khul") dictated through an inner voice, and which she wrote down word for word. The most popular, also the most unreadable, is the weighty Treatise on Cosmic Fire, which is even more difficult to read than Madame Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, but does contain some interesting cosmic diagrams.
http://www.kheper.net/topics/Theosophy/Bailey.html

Now, i myself have the Treatise on Cosmic Fire, and its REALLY MINDBLOWING.
However, what makes one uncomfortable is the constant reference to Sirius, and talk of Grand Lodges of High Masonry on Sirius, and how Sirius is constantly sending vibrations to 'uplift' poor humanity here on Earth.....its a condescending tone to my ears, as is the remarks about our Sun.
There most certainly is contained a lot of truth but as always, a HIDDEN AGENDA IS INCLUDED, so a warning to all before you explore TCF.

A few diagrams of the Cosmic Hierarchy, BASED ON THE WRITINGS OF ALICE BAILEY.
http://www.shamballaschool.org/diagrams/7512CD.jpg
http://www.shamballaschool.org/diagrams/7starcentresCD.jpg
http://www.shamballaschool.org/diagrams/CosmicTrianglesCD.jpg
http://www.shamballaschool.org/diagrams/SolarlogoicatomCD.jpg
http://www.shamballaschool.org/diagrams/OwamnbusCD.jpg

From:
http://www.shamballaschool.org/

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Ebooks by Alice Bailey, these were no longer available online 'cause Lucis Trust withdrew permission.

Contains:
Initiation Human and Solar
Letters on Occult Meditation
Light of the Soul
Telepathy and the Etheric Vehicle
A Treatise on Cosmic Fire
A Treatise on White Magic
Discipleship in the New Age 1
Discipleship in the New Age 2
Education in the New Age
Esoteric astrology
Esoteric Healing
Esoteric Psychology 1
Esoteric Psychology 2
From Bethlehem to Calvary
From Intellect to Intuition
Glamour - A World Problem
Problems Facing Humanity
The Consciousness of the Atom
The Destiny of Nations
The Externalisation of the Hierarchy
The Rays and Initiations
The Reappearance of the Christ
The Soul and Its Mechanism
The Unfinished Autobiography
The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali

Download:
http://rapidshare.com/files/181352399/Alice_Bailey.rar

[vladmir]

http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl2425/images/20080104242506605.jpg

Just some more info. on that picture to those who are wondering what is being depicted in it. A bigger picture of the king Bhageeratha's Penace depicted at the Mahabalipuram temple follows:
http://www.itslife.in/wp-content/gallery/travel/travel-mahabalipuram-bass-reef.jpg

Bhageeratha was the king of Kosala, a kingdom in ancient India.
He was a descendent of the great king Sagara of the Suryavamsa,
or Sun Dynasty.

Bhageeratha's tapasya
"Bhageeratha's Penace", Relief at Mahabalipuram.

Bringing Ganga back to Earth was a near impossible task and required many years to be spent in tapasya and prayer. The Kosala kings of successive generations could not do this while managing their duties as kings. As a result, the sins of the thousand princes multiplied in their destructive energy, and began resulting in natural disasters. The kingdom began to lose its peace and prosperity, and by the time Bhageeratha ascended the throne, he found it impossible to attempt to govern in this situation, that had only one solution.

Turning over the kingdom to trusted ministers, Bhageeratha set off to the Himalayas to perform an arduous tapasya in the extreme climate. For one thousand years, he performed an excruciatingly harsh penance to please Lord Brahma. At the end of the thousand years, Brahma came to him and told him to ask for anything. Bhageeratha asked Brahma to bring down the river Ganga to earth so that he may perform the ceremony for his ancestors.

Brahma asked Bhageeratha to propitiate Lord Shiva, for only He would be able to break the Ganga's fall. It was the largest river, and it would be impossible for anyone save Him to contain the destructive impact of this event.

Bhageeratha performed a tapasya for Lord Shiva, living only on air. The compassionate Shiva appeared only after a year's penance, and told Bhageeratha he should not have to perform tapasya to accomplish a noble goal such as this. He assured Bhageeratha that he would break Ganga's fall.

For its descent to Earth being owed to Bhageeratha's efforts, Ganga is also known as Bhageerathi (daughter of Bhageeratha) as proclaimed by Lord Brahma.

Bhageeratha's own great effort was praised by all the Gods and his ancestors, and is known as a Bhageeratha Prayatna, as proclaimed by Lord Brahma. It is a great inspiration to any man who seeks to do something noble despite facing overwhelming odds.
Source:
Bhagiratha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.pazhs.com/gallery/Mahabalipuram/perumal.jpg
The above picture is a depiction of resting Vishnu in Mahabalipuram, Tamilnadu, India.

1) Adishesha:

In Hindu (Vedic) tradition, Shesha (शेष) is the king of all nagas, one of the primal beings of creation, and according to the Bhagavata Purana, an avatar of the Supreme God known as Sankarshan.

In the Puranas, Shesha is said to hold all the planets of the Universe on his hoods and to constantly sing the glories of Vishnu from all his mouths.

"Adishesha", which means First snake.

2) Ananta-Shesha:

Shesha is generally depicted with a massive form that floats coiled in space, or on the universal ocean, to form the bed on which Vishnu lies. Sometimes he is shown as five-headed or seven-headed, but more commonly as a many hundred-headed serpent, sometimes with each head wearing an ornate crown.

He is closely associated with Vishnu. His name means "that which remains", from the Sanskrit root sis, because when the world is destroyed at the end of the kalpa, Shesha remains as he is.

So he is refered as "Ananta-Shesha" which means "Endless Shesha".

Lord Vishnu is seen resting on the coils of the serpent Shesha, also called Ananta. Sheshanaga is the expansion of Lord Balarama, Lord Krishna’s brother, and serves the Lord in this way as the Lord’s support and paraphernalia. Shesha has a thousand heads swinging to and fro over the form of Lord Vishnu, creating a shelter and couch for the Lord.

Ananta is endlessly singing the praises and glories of the Lord from His thousand hoods without ever reaching the end. His hoods are also supporting the many planetary systems in the cosmic creation that are orbiting throughout the universe above His heads. Ananta also means endless in terms of the endlessness of cosmic time. This is also represented by His thousand hoods as divisions of time. The material worlds are created within the element of time, and are thus sustained by time. During the process of the universal annihilation, time ceases to exist, in which case the material planets are also forced into obliteration.

Lord Shesha is often seen floating on the causal waters of the Garbhodaka Ocean, which exists on the bottom of the universe. Lord Vishnu is thus resting on Sheshanaga as They float on the ocean. At other times, They are viewed floating on the Kshiramudra, or an ocean of white milk. This represents the Prakriti or the ingredients of the unmanifest material nature in its purest form.

3) Ananda Sesha as incarnation of Godhead:

(i) Srimad Bhagavatam 10.1.24:

"The foremost manifestation of Krishna is Sankarshana, who is known as Ananta. He is the origin of all incarnations within this material world. Previous to the appearance of Lord Krishna, this original Sankarshana will appear as Baladeva, just to please the Supreme Lord Krishna in His transcendental pastimes."

(ii) Srimad Bhagavatam 5.25.1:

"My dear King, approximately 240,000 miles beneath the planet Patala lives another incarnation of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. He is the expansion of Lord Vishnu known as Lord Ananta or Lord Sankarshana. He is always in the transcendental position, but because He is worshiped by Lord Siva, the deity of tamo-guna or darkness, He is sometimes called Tamasi.

Lord Ananta is the predominating Deity of the material mode of ignorance as well as the false ego of all conditioned souls. When a conditioned living being thinks, 'I am the enjoyer, and this world is meant to be enjoyed by me,' this conception of life is dictated to him by Sankarshana. Thus the mundane conditioned soul thinks himself the Supreme Lord."

(iii) Sri Chaitanya Caritamrita Adi-lila 5.120:

"That Ananta Sesha is the devotee incarnation of Godhead. He knows nothing but service to Lord Krishna."

(iv) Srila Jiva Gosvami, in his Krishna-sandarbha:

"Sri Anantadeva has thousands of faces and is fully independent. Always ready to serve the Supreme Personality of Godhead, He waits upon Him constantly. Sankarshana is the first expansion of Vasudeva, and because He appears by His own will, He is called svarat, fully independent. He is therefore infinite and transcendental to all limits of time and space. He Himself appears as the thousand-headed Sesha."

(v) A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada:

"Sankarshana of the quadruple form descends with Lord Rama as Lakshmana. When Lord Rama disappears, Sesha again separates Himself from the personality of Lakshmana. Sesha then returns to His own abode in the Patala regions, and Lakshmana returns to His abode in Vaikuntha."

(vi) Bhagavad-Gita, Chapter 10, Verse 29:

In the Bhagavad-Gita, when in the middle of the battlefied Kurukshetra, Krishna explaining his omnipresence, says: "Of Nagas, I am Ananta" indicating the importance of Ananta Shesha.

4) Avataras of Adishesha:

Balarama, Lakshmana, and Nityananda Prabhu, are considered avataras of Shesha.

Patañjali is also considered an emanation or incarnation of Shesha and is iconographically depicted in naga form with naga canopy.

5) More on Adishesha:

In a story from the Puranas, Shesha loosens Mount Mandara, to enable it to be used in the churning of the ocean by the devas and asuras.

According to the Mahabharata (Adi Parva), his father was Kashyapa and his mother Kadru.
Kadru: Kadru was wife of the great sage Kashyap. She gave birth to a thousand snakes who are considered to be ancestors of all snakes. Thus snakes are semi-divine beings. Kadru once won a bet with sage Kashyap's other wife, Vinata.

As a result, Vinata had to serve Kadru as a maid. Vinata gave birth to a mighty son, Garud, who became the king of birds. He relieved his mother from Kadru's bondage by getting Amrit (nectar) from the heavens. However, in the process, Nagas became his permanent enemies.

The city of Thiruvananthapuram is named after him as the "City of Lord Ananta".
Source(s):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheshahttp://www.stephen-knapp.com/lord_vishnu.htm
http://vedabase.net/sb/10/1/en1
http://vedabase.net/sb/5/25/en1
http://spirituality.indiatimes.com/articleshow/953344.cms

[novymir]

I think the Theosophical Society has produced some valuable research. But at the same time some of their conclusions are suspect.
Having just recently read, "Externalization of the Hierarchy", basically to see what so many are so afraid of....
It loses ALOT of credibility by the FACT that probably 50% of the whole book is dedicated to war-mongering and demonization of Hitler and Germany. I mean this is BLATANT BULLSHIT. Yeah, it touches slightly on the "jewish problem" of separation-supremicism and influence, but by endorsing "The Allies" as some type of Divine force of Love and Peace is LAUGHABLE. They(Allies and Axis) were BOTH being used as tools by the same "higher" force. And in my mind the Allies were the greater "evil" of the 2, knowing now that the so-called "Holocaust" is largely a fabrication projected to obscure this fact. This therefore destroys the crediblity COMPLETELY of 'the Tibetan' and Alice Bailey in my eyes. That isn't to say truth cannot be derived from what they say though...

Christ is an archetype, but we've got 2 sides of a false dichotomy trying to destroy the true meaning and actualization of it, both are serving the same masters, and those masters are hostile towards "humanity". That means the so-called "prime archetypes" of lyghtkyne's, and the so-called Christ of "Externalization of the Hierarchy". They are both WRONG. And of course the "bible" is full of distortions and misdirection attached to the Christ message too, bullshit that can cancel the truth out if One cannot see it.
The simple Truth is that the Christ message is about transcending the bounds of this limited polarized world through activating the Spirit of Creative LOVE within. And it is not about destroying individuality, it is about denying and rejecting these false limits/laws/presumptions/assumptions imposed-projected by a predatory/parasitic consciousness that has surrounded and isolated the Earth and humanity consciousness.
LOVE is not the polar opposite of hate or "evil", hate and evil are relative/subjective terms; meaning both sides of a polarized dynamic will perceive the other as their opposite, meaning; it is "the other" that is always "evil" and hateful, meaning projected perceptions influence experience-reality creation, meaning LOVE is the Pragmatic Truth that benefits THE ALL, including individuated Self... There can be no winners in the polarity game. That is the "lesson" to be learned here.

[lyghtkynge]

If anybody buys the bullshit this cow, Nxxxxxx, is carrying on about, they deserve the delusional results they'll get in place of Truth, or Sacred-Divine Knowledge.

The Archetypes Are Prime, like 1-2-3, A-B-C, ARC-Circle-Triangle-Square.

And here you have an Ignorant waif of the world, a voice crying in the wilderness, untaught, non-apprehending, telling everyone that jesu is his god almighty whom none stand before. Throw away your math, your language, your Geometry & symbolism; let 'us' (xtian dogmatists) 'guide' your way into more Ignorance of Like Kind. Eat it up, folks, those who bow to a sevitor, a mediator, rather than Know ThySelf, as It Knows ItSelf.

I suggest you laugh off this Hate-filled banter by this sad Fear-filled babe of the woods. You all know a Troll when you see one (except mods, of course; apparently they have't learned what it means yet).

He maketh an ass of himself: I also caught him telling member Deca to change his avatar pic for it 'wasn't suitable.' What a twisted one we have here:

"I would highly recommend to stop identifying with the character in your avatar... don't you see what you're doing?
Be the Real You...
You ARE a Creator,,, you are being attacked, but not how and why you think." Nxxxxxx
Post#1850 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058480069#post1058480069

And go soak your christ in pitch, along with the pathetic jesu mythos, an invention, artifice, prevarication and made-for-deception contrivance: there are hundreds-of-thousands of churches where you can find your Ignorant-like-kind, wailing in tear. And how cute, 'dichotomy' usage that doesn't connote correctly.

Yes, folks, there is a santa claus; and if you do not believe, you're going straight to hell: just ask Nxxxxx, the hypocrite extraordinaire, faux-guardian of Righteousness. Oh, and Ignorance, forgot that.

Wah-wah, wah-wah. "christ is true & real, 'cause I say so: and anybody disagrees with me yis wrong, you know yous wrong. wah-wah, wah-wah

Can anybody recognize a Hate-filled Troll? Been talked to by mods, been told off by others members, yet says, 'I don't care' (wah-wah, wah-wah, need a link?) because its authentically Ignorant: Shit in your pants stupid. (language that perhaps nxxxx can grasp, maybe...regardless of the stench we are aware of.)

christ is real...yeah, and so is the eas'er bunnyee.
http://www.amptoons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/christian_oppression_pie.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R6vEBZUX3QE/SiiOD4euM_I/AAAAAAAAAj4/xnCHSTCK-Rc/s400/alien-jesus.jpg

Try Lucifer-Christos, then you Are dealing with a Full Deck, at least: Two Halves to Make A wHole.
(or any designation chosen, just not a mediator, but rather the Dual Forces of Creation.)

"Let Ignorance Rule - All Nagas Cease to Exist...All Archetypes Cease to Exist."

What a Moron.

http://jacksonbooksandvideos.com/images/the%20christ%20conspiracy%20-%20the%20greatest%20story%20ever%20sold.jpg
THE CHRIST CONSPIRACY -- THE GREATEST STORY EVER SOLD
"Controversial and explosive, The Christ Conspiracy marshals an enormous amount of startling evidence that the religion of Christianity and Jesus Christ were created by members of various secret societies, mystery schools and religions in order to unify the Roman Empire under one state religion! This powerful book maintains that these groups drew upon a multitude of myths and rituals that already existed long before the Christian era and reworked them into the story the Christian religion presents today-known to most Westerners as the Bible. Author Acharya makes the case that there was no actual person named Jesus, but that several characters were rolled into one mythic being inspired by the deities Mithras, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others of the Roman Empire. She demonstrates that the story of Jesus, as portrayed in the Gospels, is nearly identical in detail to those of the earlier savior-gods Krishna and Horus, and concludes that Jesus was certainly neither original nor unique, nor was he the divine revelation. Rather, he represents the very ancient body of knowledge derived from celestial observation and natural forces. A book that will initiate heated debate and inner struggle, it is intelligently written and referenced. The only book of its kind, it is destined for controversy."

[purple rain]

As for cows who like to play the enlightened leader role, there's one that can't be bothered answering some basic questions when asked. You'd rather just harp on about vague ideas roughly 2% of the readers get. Whatever, oh wise one.

[novymir]

If anybody buys the bullshit this cow, Nxxxxxx, is carrying on about, they deserve the delusional results they'll get in place of Truth, or Sacred-Divine Knowledge.

The Archetypes Are Prime, like 1-2-3, A-B-C, ARC-Circle-Triangle-Square.

And here you have an Ignorant waif of the world, a voice crying in the wilderness, untaught, non-apprehending, telling everyone that jesu is his god almighty whom none stand before. Throw away your math, your language, your Geometry & symbolism; let 'us' (xtian dogmatists) 'guide' your way into more Ignorance of Like Kind. Eat it up, folks, those who bow to a sevitor, a mediator, rather than Know ThySelf, as It Knows ItSelf.

I suggest you laugh off this Hate-filled banter by this sad Fear-filled babe of the woods. You all know a Troll when you see one (except mods, of course; apparently they have't learned what it means yet).

He maketh an ass of himself: I also caught him telling member Deca to change his avatar pic for it 'wasn't suitable.' What a twisted one we have here:

"I would highly recommend to stop identifying with the character in your avatar... don't you see what you're doing?
Be the Real You...
You ARE a Creator,,, you are being attacked, but not how and why you think." Nxxxxxx
Post#1850 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058480069#post1058480069

And go soak your christ in pitch, along with the pathetic jesu mythos, an invention, artifice, prevarication and made-for-deception contrivance: there are hundreds-of-thousands of churches where you can find your Ignorant-like-kind, wailing in tear. And how cute, 'dichotomy' usage that doesn't connote correctly.

Yes, folks, there is a santa claus; and if you do not believe, you're going straight to hell: just ask Nxxxxx, the hypocrite extraordinaire, faux-guardian of Righteousness. Oh, and Ignorance, forgot that.

Wah-wah, wah-wah. "christ is true & real, 'cause I say so: and anybody disagrees with me yis wrong, you know yous wrong. wah-wah, wah-wah

Can anybody recognize a Hate-filled Troll? Been talked to by mods, been told off by others members, yet says, 'I don't care' (wah-wah, wah-wah, need a link?) because its authentically Ignorant: Shit in your pants stupid. (language that perhaps nxxxx can grasp, maybe...regardless of the stench we are aware of.)

christ is real...yeah, and so is the eas'er bunnyee.
http://www.amptoons.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/christian_oppression_pie.png
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_R6vEBZUX3QE/SiiOD4euM_I/AAAAAAAAAj4/xnCHSTCK-Rc/s400/alien-jesus.jpg

Try Lucifer-Christos, then you Are dealing with a Full Deck, at least: Two Halves to Make A wHole.
(or any designation chosen, just not a mediator, but rather the Dual Forces of Creation.)

"Let Ignorance Rule - All Nagas Cease to Exist...All Archetypes Cease to Exist."

What a Moron.

http://jacksonbooksandvideos.com/images/the%20christ%20conspiracy%20-%20the%20greatest%20story%20ever%20sold.jpg
THE CHRIST CONSPIRACY -- THE GREATEST STORY EVER SOLD
"Controversial and explosive, The Christ Conspiracy marshals an enormous amount of startling evidence that the religion of Christianity and Jesus Christ were created by members of various secret societies, mystery schools and religions in order to unify the Roman Empire under one state religion! This powerful book maintains that these groups drew upon a multitude of myths and rituals that already existed long before the Christian era and reworked them into the story the Christian religion presents today-known to most Westerners as the Bible. Author Acharya makes the case that there was no actual person named Jesus, but that several characters were rolled into one mythic being inspired by the deities Mithras, Heracles/Hercules, Dionysus and many others of the Roman Empire. She demonstrates that the story of Jesus, as portrayed in the Gospels, is nearly identical in detail to those of the earlier savior-gods Krishna and Horus, and concludes that Jesus was certainly neither original nor unique, nor was he the divine revelation. Rather, he represents the very ancient body of knowledge derived from celestial observation and natural forces. A book that will initiate heated debate and inner struggle, it is intelligently written and referenced. The only book of its kind, it is destined for controversy."

See the REACTION? And he is the oh-so-"enlightened" One above 99.% of Humanity... whom he views as "swine" and "dogz"(and he claims persecution and being raged at and brutally attacked for "revealing the truth", People, You be the judge, and draw your own conclusions about who is expressing rage and "hate" here) .... that is "The Demiurge"(Architect, All Seeing I) speaking--- with It's math and formulas and calculations, predictability....Exactly what this "Matrix" is constructed of,,, as if that is the only and WHOLE of Creation and Creativity.... It must control because It is AFRAID, SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT AND IMMERSED IN TOXIC SHAME. IGNORANT. IN DENIAL. PROJECTING It's ERROR "outward", when there is no-thing outside of THE SELF.

There's a "Christ Conspiracy" all right, and it's one to prevent Us from realizing our True Potential, which that Being demonstrated.. When he said he was "GOD", he meant THE ALL THAT IS that each and everyOne of Us are-- there are no "Gods" or "GOD", there is only THE INFINITE ALL and IT'S infinite aspects and expressions of ITSELF,,, We are IT, IT IS Us. NOW, ALWAYS.

As far as deca's avatar goes... it did not bother me ,,,, it was a picture of that guy from "A Clockwork Orange", it was just a suggestion. That he apparently accepted.

[lyghtkynge]

purple rain;

Basic questions? Do you even know what a 'basic question' is? That's not what you asked me: Here's what you asked me, sulky one:
What You Asked Me (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058483619&postcount=25)
You don't understand the serpent theme? You think I can explain that? Vladmir is doing a fabulous job for the thread: read it, study some on your own, and quit sulking. You have to Earn What You Learn. This ain't for beginners: this is for about 2% of the membership, as you guessed!

As for the REAL and the Relfected Unreal...I guess maybe 2% get this, unlikely more. Ask vladmir, I bet he can explain this to you also! He's no ignorant cow, but a well-versed individual who's not just Studied, but employed Practical Application of Spirit-Truth Principles. How about you? I've got nearlly 4 decades of yoga-meditation, how many years have you got? Thought so: and I can just 'make you understand?' You wouldn't believe it if I told, which this Thread has been doing. So, Comprehension plays a role here, also.

No, Eternal Progression is not like Nirvana, Samadhi (terms): do what I suggested: Read the Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, first; then come back here: I can't repeat every post I've made here just for you: I helped you: you never followed through: this material is Advanced, for people who have Put The Effort In, and not of a few weeks. Lots of Brilliant Posters here on Icke: they are Brilliant because they have Made Effort To Apply Themselves.

Now, read the Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, tell me when you've finished, and then asked one or two questions, and I'll be more able to assist in furthering your understanding. And don't believe everything you read: It Has To be Validated, that's Universal Law: Experience::Understanding.

You don't see vladmir whining and insulting, do you? You'll notice when (if) you read Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) , how bs-cow is filled with Dogma & Self-Fear and Hatred for myself. Or you ain't paying attention. Where does this stem from? I rejected the reject--people hate rejection, believe me. I don't happen to 'love everybody,' because I don't appreciate Ignorance & Innocence, a Base-SubPrime Condition fo the nascent Soul-Spirit. And no, you don't have to like everybody.

And by-the-way, I'm only addressing approx. 2% of the members here on Icke---the rest want to talk about games & songs and everyday banter: I'm not interested in that: I am here to describe things that I was Shown (get it?) that are DIRECTLY Related to The Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil and The Tree of Life & Death (Two Trees, young one).

Plus, I TOLD you to read through my main thread (same psycko on that thread, also, attacking because of his Fear-base)
Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064)

Then, perhaps I can help; perhaps not. Most of the topics I address are from the Prime Achetypes: You know, like AT THE TOP, Origination of Being-Presence, &c? What you'll find on other forums and this one, are posts/topics that address everything from the Bottom Up: I do It via The Way of The Sun Sphere (Command), From the Top Down: This is the InFlux Flow, or the DownFlow, which is Life & Death; your normal understanding utilizes & Sees via the LifeForce Flow, or the UpFlow - Bottom-Up, which is the Knowledge of Good & Evil (Polarity/Duality). Therefore, I am Mirror reflected to most, and to follow, one must be able to Discern Spirit Directly, which is Inverted-Reversed to normal human consciousness.

Got that much? Btw, I've been reading Your threads/posts all along!

If you think you want to understand what I'm saying, I suggest you read an Eye-Opener thread, also, by member Metacomet, FACT: Everything you see is BACKWARDS (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95746) and kindly Note my Post: It'll reveal where I'm coming from, Quick-like: Pure Fire.
http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/424/404/42440447-0bf1-4d9d-bcab-9931b5588a0c

And I never said, anywhere, that I was 'enlightened.' I did say the Naga I encountered taught me via Spatial Inherency.

Now, about that 1-2-3, A-B-C, ARC-Circle-Triangle-Square....How simple? Actually, From The Top, It Is.

[novymir]

HahA,,,, my "fear-base"?? If what you say is true(it's only half true, the rest is projection to make Us manifest/Real-ize the rest) I would be facing some rather unpleasant consequences, no? After all, I Am in apparent rebellion against the so-called "highest Beings" in existence, no?? Meh,,, I don't care, because I don't recognize their PRESUMED "authority".:eek::):D:p

[lyghtkynge]

You actually are an Idiot, nxxxxx.

And you have been attacking me personally on every thread I've made, just to kill the thread, make people leave because of the psycho you are (not behaving, you actually are):

Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064)

The Hatred of All Life (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87601)

This one...Saucer Trip to The Source of Creation (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95066)

All because I rejected you due to your inability to relate to me. What a cry-baby. And you talk about Hatred? It's what you exude, and everyone on Icke can see it...just not yourself...you're trapped within it's overwhelming bubble of self-fear (oh, you explained that!).

Endless attack posts, and you're so sick-insane with your hatred of me you can't even comprehend that a person would Defend Themselves from such a sickness? I tried to ignore it, but you have been warned by mods, and are not going to stop attacking.

Now have we got that understood, everybody? Check the links: see the Psycho. A number of people have commented on your self-consuming insanity. And you lie about the truth behind your insane attacks, and then speak of truth, like you would know any truth.

psst...found a likeness of your heart n mind state:
. . . http://www.flickwit.net/images/a-clockwork-orange.jpg

[novymir]

Haha, you rejected me? I think you've got me mixed up with someone else. Yeah, right, that's why you invited me to be a friend after I made a couple supportive initial comments in the "Dark Masters' thread. Only later to see your "prime-archetypes" are just a macrocosm of the Dark Masters.
It does not matter to me if you reject me, I don't reject You(you're still on my friends list:)), only the program/ideas/thoughforms you are promoting. So what? You may take it personally, but that is Your choice.
Some people can't handle a paradox,,,, meaning, what they perceive is not always the whole of what IS. Which is precisely the main point of my posts.
I do not hate You, honestly, I hate no One. I love All life.

I don't view the "Demiurge" as "evil", It is unaware.
What name have I ever called you lyghtkyne? Have I ever called You "evil", "insane", or an "idiot"? Nope. At the level we are speaking of, to say that the "Demiurge" is speaking through you is not a "personal attack", it's an observation that is self evident to anyOne familiar with the the subject, that does not worship It or in fear of It.
It's revealing though that you ignore me until I mention Christ...you seem bound and determined to convince Us that we are weak pathetic Beings, unless We go along with Your program.
You remind me of the Pharisees. I'm not a "Christian", but you are doing a great job of showing me how much Truth is inherrent in those teachings.

[lyghtkynge]

All throughout my threads, you have made personal attacks on me, regardless what you call it, or say it is. You lie, like your heart lies. You are in denial, and are Trolling my threads for no better reason than what you know happens when you do this...nobody wishes to read them anymore. How stupid, you didn't realize? Yeah, we're all stupid, except yourself.

Hate? Yes, let's deny hate. I recall several posts by others that pointed out to you what you are doing, yet you persist, believing your delusional statements.

'christ' is your problem, not mine. I relate to it as 'Christos,' which is still pretty dogmatically toned, and it turns off a number of people who have remarked regarding the term: I am not the only one that's sick & fed up with the xtian theology: and you are the one who brought it up, not me. I stay out of the religious sub-forum, having made one post on old santa claus, on purpose. Each to their own belief-box-system.

And do we forget how you 'pretended to be friendly,' then immediately began to attack me with just a mild difference of opinion? (in "Dark Masters" thread)? Talk about a pouting behavior, which you've allowed to turn fiendish within yourself. You are not here to offer opinion, but to achieve a not so hidden agenda, which others, both on this thread, and others, have remarked on.

And you are a liar, no less. You lie with your heart and mind, and oh, yeah...your fingertips.

You're grasp of Universal Law is nil, confused (imk). You wouldn't know a mirrored truth if you stumbled upon it, as I've made mention. When I address a point, you ignore the content, even the process of ratiocination, and continue with your fearfilled Denial.

And you lie regarding having 'just read' Alice Bailey's "A Treatise on Cosmic Fire." I highly doubt a person could peruse such a volume so 'recently,' and come away without any understanding of its conveyed Knowledge. Go back and read your funny post. Sure, you can sit and lie behind a screen, but Truth Tells as ItSelf. It Knows. I owned & read a number of her works many decades ago, and have little use for them; I don't care for her.

If you had any Awareness, rather than rudimentary human consciousness, you'd not behave as you have. You'd at least consider the content before ignoring it and carrying on with your lack of Awareness. I have pointed this out to you: I have caught you on others threads and read your posts, and you do exactly what you accuse me of. Only difference, I Know whereof I speak: you don't even suspect what your saying regarding the underlaying Truth. Oh, yes, you believe what you say, and so does everybody else. Even those lost in the forest who see shimmering ghost-lights, and think they have found truth.

You may not be an xtian, but you have it programmed deep into your energetic stucture...you just don't comprehend this: one little 'turning away' does not the energetic-grip remake...it is a matter of Lifetimes to overcome the failed lessons that have become ingrained genetically, and that are part of one's light-energy configuration.

But you go ahead, keep believing yourself, for you are you, and that is all you have: your own Denial, until the Big Stick of Truth shows you what It Truly Is.

You laugh? You even Deny The Abyss, because of Fear & Ignorance.

How Ignorant: You accuse me of 'being wrong,' yet you do not even know that the Absolute Level is BOTH Creative & Destructive: Nurturing & Lethal As OneSelf...that's Right, the 3rd Level, the Level of the Integrated Self, that has Reflected ItSelf Down Into the Center As Absolute Balance...inconceivable to your low-mind/low-ego self.

Whatever you are talking about, whatever you believe, what is here is beyond your current Grasp. It is not easy. I have Proven these Truths via Direct Experiential Knowing, and Validated these Experiences over a Lifetime of Intent to Understand. This Understanding is Energetic, not from books or posts or forums or other's ideas: And I Know. I have said perhaps 2% can follow what I say, not because it is the only way, but because it is a Particular Way:

"The race of the ancient Mayan Seers and the Death Defiers of the Fellowship of the Serpent are systems in which one can gain the intrinsic realization of this significant impact. But don't be put off if such things do not fit into your belief systems at this time. There are many ways to uphold the light. Their system is just one and one that is not necessarily the most dominant within the Universes upon Universes, but it is the preferred way for those who ascribe to the Warrior's path.
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, Introduction)

Did you even read it? You quote my posts, and then attack from fear, for I follow a different path than yours. And you think you are going to 'save others' from lyghtkynge? (want a quote???? from "Dark Masters"?). Don't you comprehend that that 'You can't Save Anybody Else?'

Vladmir and myself don't see eye-to-eye on a number of things, yet he does not attack me for those differences...merely explores mutual interests.

You have a problem, and I have already told you: Release Yourself:
I have nothing for you...don't forget, 'You can't Save Anybody Else.'

Try looking in the mirror...really, take a meditational position, and let your enmity go (I am not the only one to notice it, you do realize?). Everybody will be fine without you saving them from lyghtkynge. All 2%.

Now, didn't you have something to say, elsewhere? You've done your damage here, the thread is dead, and you've accomplished your latest Trolling Mission under the guise of 'innocence.' Once again, you've fooled us All.

[sphere555]

Lyghtkynge, may I remind you that you won't convince anyone to join the "movement" by scaring the wits out of them. Besides, a true Master never goes around claiming that he is one. Others will exalt his status instead! :cool:

[novymir]

I don't care what "others" think of me. I'm not alone though.
You are every bit as dogmatic as any other one. They All claim to have the "ultimate truth".... and they all claim those who deny or reject it are ignorant, evil, or insane...
Here's my "dogma"--- reality and Being is paradoxical and Pragmatic,,, pretty dogmatic, isn't it, unpredictable too, and really, really restrictive and oppressive? Apparently for some it is.

I see no reason to accept being owned or controlled by anyOne or their dogma. Period. Those that would coerce or intimidate or deceive and CONSUME are the Ones that need to look in the mirror.
The fact remains, in infinity mathematics is Pragmatic, meaning the only reason it works is because we have suspended disbelief and accepted it as true and real, not because it actually is. And that is the way it is for everything. End of story--- the biggest secret.
As far as your accusations, you're free to perceive and experience anything you want, it's your choice.

[purple rain]

I gave you the link you asked for, twice: Once, in the original post you inquired about; Second, in my reply to you. And bs is bs. Ignorance is Relative...to me, it's A Specific Denominator of WORD Ignorance. Mankind has forgotten It, thus the Naga. You want fantasy, read a book. You want Truth, read me.

Basic questions? Do you even know what a 'basic question' is? That's not what you asked me: Here's what you asked me, sulky one:
What You Asked Me (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058483619&postcount=25)
You don't understand the serpent theme? You think I can explain that? Vladmir is doing a fabulous job for the thread: read it, study some on your own, and quit sulking. You have to Earn What You Learn. This ain't for beginners: this is for about 2% of the membership, as you guessed!

As for the REAL and the Relfected Unreal...I guess maybe 2% get this, unlikely more. Ask vladmir, I bet he can explain this to you also! He's no ignorant cow, but a well-versed individual who's not just Studied, but employed Practical Application of Spirit-Truth Principles. How about you? I've got nearlly 4 decades of yoga-meditation, how many years have you got? Thought so: and I can just 'make you understand?' You wouldn't believe it if I told, which this Thread has been doing. So, Comprehension plays a role here, also.

No, Eternal Progression is not like Nirvana, Samadhi (terms): do what I suggested: Read the Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, first; then come back here: I can't repeat every post I've made here just for you: I helped you: you never followed through: this material is Advanced, for people who have Put The Effort In, and not of a few weeks. Lots of Brilliant Posters here on Icke: they are Brilliant because they have Made Effort To Apply Themselves.

Now, read the Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, tell me when you've finished, and then asked one or two questions, and I'll be more able to assist in furthering your understanding. And don't believe everything you read: It Has To be Validated, that's Universal Law: Experience::Understanding.

You don't see vladmir whining and insulting, do you? You'll notice when (if) you read Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) , how bs-cow is filled with Dogma & Self-Fear and Hatred for myself. Or you ain't paying attention. Where does this stem from? I rejected the reject--people hate rejection, believe me. I don't happen to 'love everybody,' because I don't appreciate Ignorance & Innocence, a Base-SubPrime Condition fo the nascent Soul-Spirit. And no, you don't have to like everybody.

And by-the-way, I'm only addressing approx. 2% of the members here on Icke---the rest want to talk about games & songs and everyday banter: I'm not interested in that: I am here to describe things that I was Shown (get it?) that are DIRECTLY Related to The Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil and The Tree of Life & Death (Two Trees, young one).

Plus, I TOLD you to read through my main thread (same psycko on that thread, also, attacking because of his Fear-base)
Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064)

Then, perhaps I can help; perhaps not. Most of the topics I address are from the Prime Achetypes: You know, like AT THE TOP, Origination of Being-Presence, &c? What you'll find on other forums and this one, are posts/topics that address everything from the Bottom Up: I do It via The Way of The Sun Sphere (Command), From the Top Down: This is the InFlux Flow, or the DownFlow, which is Life & Death; your normal understanding utilizes & Sees via the LifeForce Flow, or the UpFlow - Bottom-Up, which is the Knowledge of Good & Evil (Polarity/Duality). Therefore, I am Mirror reflected to most, and to follow, one must be able to Discern Spirit Directly, which is Inverted-Reversed to normal human consciousness.

Got that much? Btw, I've been reading Your threads/posts all along!

If you think you want to understand what I'm saying, I suggest you read an Eye-Opener thread, also, by member Metacomet, FACT: Everything you see is BACKWARDS (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95746) and kindly Note my Post: It'll reveal where I'm coming from, Quick-like: Pure Fire.
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And I never said, anywhere, that I was 'enlightened.' I did say the Naga I encountered taught me via Spatial Inherency.

Now, about that 1-2-3, A-B-C, ARC-Circle-Triangle-Square....How simple? Actually, From The Top, It Is.

I don't recall you telling me to read Darm masters, but I'm going too. Thanks for explaining a bit more. But I have to say, don't you come off a little pompous?

You could have said I needed to read more and perhaps pointed a link instead of completely ignoring. We all have to "start" somewhere.

This post of yours sounds a bit like God's interaction with Job and Satan. Look at my disciple Vladimir, he is more devout than you. And then your rebuke of how dare doest thou question me, have you as much experience as I is close to what God told Job. It's quite easy to see the master-disciple relationship between you and Vladimir.

"Earn What You Learn"

Why is withholding information even when asked seem so 'cool' to some spritual people? What's wrong with straight answers? It isn't impossible, I do have a vague understanding of a few related things. Instead its, I'll just talk in parables and talk around it while using strange terms and keep up that mystique.

[vladmir]

lol, i have to hand it to you, purple rain.
You sir have taken quite a flight of fantasy!
I mean, i almost fell out my chair laughing.
Quite a humorous projection of your mind, and quite erroneous. Tsk Tsk.
Not a surprise, as you are calling me vladimir, when its actually vladmir.
You are seeing an i that isint there.

[purple rain]

oooh... so I took a single glance at your user name (which is how the mind generally scans a word) ... so the missing 'i' is now a projection referring to myself. That's very deep.


Vladmir: Behind the question is a selfish desire to make you post again in this thread! I dont care if its obvious! grovelling

Lightking: vladmir - you make me chuckle! hoo hoo hoo oh Vladmir you silly thing, you're embarassing me. Yes, you may kiss my hand.

[vladmir]

yet you do not even know that the Absolute Level is BOTH Creative & Destructive: Nurturing & Lethal As OneSelf...that's Right, the 3rd Level, the Level of the Integrated Self, that has Reflected ItSelf Down Into the Center As Absolute Balance...inconceivable to your low-mind/low-ego self.
The ONLY way to understand paradox, is to have it validated. The paradox still remains. But your doubts disappear, and one isint confused anymore.
A better way of putting it would be, confusion does not worry him.
“Confusion is a word we have invented for an order which is not yet understood”
Henry Miller.

If someone says, “I am lying,” for example, and we assume that his statement is true, it must be false.
The paradox is that the statement “I am lying” is false if it is true.

Anyway, i have heard it said about the golden ratio φ,
that while it isint resolved on this dimension, (It is approximately equal to 1.61803398874........) it infact resolves itself in a higher dimension.

Whatever you are talking about, whatever you believe, what is here is beyond your current Grasp. It is not easy. I have Proven these Truths via Direct Experiential Knowing, and Validated these Experiences over a Lifetime of Intent to Understand. This Understanding is Energetic, not from books or posts or forums or other's ideas: And I Know.
Exactly, the beauty of it is that it is TRULY beyond the grasp of our polarized mind here.
But to understand the fact that we don't understand,
actually begins the steps towards REAL understanding that of course cant be 'understood'.

@ purple rain
I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
U see? No? Good!
U see? Yes? Good!

[purple rain]

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
U see? No? Good!
U see? Yes? Good!

It really inflates your ego to talk like this doesn't it?

[vladmir]

It really inflates your ego to talk like this doesn't it?
Good purple rain, good~!

[vladmir]

Sharing is Caring. :)
Acharya S - The Christ Conspiracy-the Greatest Story Ever Sold.
http://rapidshare.com/files/170342995/Acharya_-_The_Christ_Conspiracy-the_Greatest_Story_Ever_Sold.pdf

[vladmir]

A VERY interesting preview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByX9EErtQzI
Secrets of The Serpent - Philip Gardiner - YouTube

[lyghtkynge]

I don't recall you telling me to read Darm masters, but I'm going too. Thanks for explaining a bit more. But I have to say, don't you come off a little pompous?

You could have said I needed to read more and perhaps pointed a link instead of completely ignoring. We all have to "start" somewhere.

This post of yours sounds a bit like God's interaction with Job and Satan. Look at my disciple Vladimir, he is more devout than you. And then your rebuke of how dare doest thou question me, have you as much experience as I is close to what God told Job. It's quite easy to see the master-disciple relationship between you and Vladimir.

"Earn What You Learn"

Why is withholding information even when asked seem so 'cool' to some spritual people? What's wrong with straight answers? It isn't impossible, I do have a vague understanding of a few related things. Instead its, I'll just talk in parables and talk around it while using strange terms and keep up that mystique.

You are right, purple rain, everyone has to start somewhere. And since I am a 'small percentage audience,' I would hardly presume to 'entice' your budding viewpoint with it, initially. Some come around on their own, but the number is always very small.

I apologize for ignoring you, I just felt a bit hopeless in being able to explain sufficiently the queries you presented. Besides of which, as I have said, I have covered most of your query material in 'my' "Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness" (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, including my position on the 'lofty godlike attitude' I seem to present. Besides of which, I deal with Instant Karma (superfast!), and one of the first lessons that sunk into my (at the time) thick skull was that 'pride proceedeth a fall,' fast & certain. I have developed an ultra-keen sense to avoid such over my near 6 decades, regardless of how 'overbearing' I may appear. That's illusion.

So, kindly accept my apologies; you are one of the few (joke!) that have spoken out about this obvious fault (my inability to adequately convey abstruse 'metaphysical' concepts metaphorically).

When you have finished reading the thread, perhaps we will have either gained a better ground of communication, or at least drawn more visible lines of opposition, as you will. I will discuss any questions (start with just a couple, please, or it gets confusing real fast) you subsequently feel like asking.

I have already presented my status, my path (Capstone Path), and hardly expect any others to 'follow my lead.' In fact, I do not take prisoners, and present the 'iffy' viewpoints to others in hopes that they might inquire of them further on their own. We all have that 'godspark' (Spark of The ARC) Within, and it should never be taken captive by another. If one stumbles on the path, it is permissible to lend a hand, not charge a fee. I have been lifted up many a time by others.

And thanks beforehand for your time in reading through a difficult (and besieged) thread.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:QUJ0oBlMOq0XAM:http://transition2008.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/the-thinker4.jpg

[novymir]

This post of yours sounds a bit like God's interaction with Job and Satan. Look at my disciple Vladimir, he is more devout than you. And then your rebuke of how dare doest thou question me, have you as much experience as I is close to what God told Job. It's quite easy to see the master-disciple relationship between you and Vladimir.

"Earn What You Learn"

Why is withholding information even when asked seem so 'cool' to some spritual people? What's wrong with straight answers? It isn't impossible, I do have a vague understanding of a few related things. Instead its, I'll just talk in parables and talk around it while using strange terms and keep up that mystique.

You could view this as synchronistic. Ask and You shall receive...:) Maybe??
You may find this to be of interest:
daniela1771&#39;s Channel - YouTube

daniela1771&#39;s Channel - YouTube

daniela1771&#39;s Channel - YouTube

The Truth is so simple...IT's beyond the comprehension of many...

[novymir]

Absolute or Ultimate Truth can only exist within a FINITE system or state of Being, to connect with the Infinite All One must release their Self from the constraints of such a system or State of Being. To attempt to do so by following the rules and regulations that are a part of and created by that finite system will only create a different superficial perception that remains contained within the same system.
It's not much different than a slave being in denial of being a slave, and she/he changes their attitude to adapt and make the experience bearable.
Einstein said, "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it", and it is a Truism regardless on what opinion one may have of the man.

The Frame of Reference must be changed, from Within.
I Am not saying this Creation here is "evil" or necessarily defective, I do not hate the (co-)Creator of it, It IS a part of Me, and I of It. I do not reject It, I only reject It's presumptions, and It's projections of Absolute Authority. I Know better than that, and that does not make Me in rebellion to THE INFINITE ALL, I AM THAT too. It is the One in rebellion/denial of THAT.

[lyghtkynge]

You are hilarious, n!

When they say the black snake becomes tangled up in its own coils, they aren't kidding!

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .. Hilarious!
http://www.newscientist.com/blog/shortsharpscience/uploaded_images/Finalist3-700413.jpg

We must believe as we are told, for it is so! So sayeth the architect. Great humor. Got a really good fart joke for you if you like 'em (from don Juan!). No? Oh well. It's not as funny as your stuff, though (sorry, spur of the moment competition!).


. . (Black snake: low-mind/low-ego)
http://rlv.zcache.com/snake_coils_flyer-p2446254935756380852pafb_210.jpg

[purple rain]

You are right, purple rain, everyone has to start somewhere. And since I am a 'small percentage audience,' I would hardly presume to 'entice' your budding viewpoint with it, initially. Some come around on their own, but the number is always very small.

I apologize for ignoring you, I just felt a bit hopeless in being able to explain sufficiently the queries you presented. Besides of which, as I have said, I have covered most of your query material in 'my' "Dark Masters of Reincarnation and Awareness" (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84064) thread, including my position on the 'lofty godlike attitude' I seem to present. Besides of which, I deal with Instant Karma (superfast!), and one of the first lessons that sunk into my (at the time) thick skull was that 'pride proceedeth a fall,' fast & certain. I have developed an ultra-keen sense to avoid such over my near 6 decades, regardless of how 'overbearing' I may appear. That's illusion.

So, kindly accept my apologies; you are one of the few (joke!) that have spoken out about this obvious fault (my inability to adequately convey abstruse 'metaphysical' concepts metaphorically).

When you have finished reading the thread, perhaps we will have either gained a better ground of communication, or at least drawn more visible lines of opposition, as you will. I will discuss any questions (start with just a couple, please, or it gets confusing real fast) you subsequently feel like asking.

I have already presented my status, my path (Capstone Path), and hardly expect any others to 'follow my lead.' In fact, I do not take prisoners, and present the 'iffy' viewpoints to others in hopes that they might inquire of them further on their own. We all have that 'godspark' (Spark of The ARC) Within, and it should never be taken captive by another. If one stumbles on the path, it is permissible to lend a hand, not charge a fee. I have been lifted up many a time by others.

And thanks beforehand for your time in reading through a difficult (and besieged) thread.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:QUJ0oBlMOq0XAM:http://transition2008.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/the-thinker4.jpg


I'll investigate any lead that doesn't involve lip licking reptilians, but also what you've posted in this thread I did find intriguing so I'll be getting to that video as soon as I can. I agree about not being imposing with ones views.

If I manage to have some grasp of what the video is about perhaps we'll have something interesting to debate later on. Thanks for that post.

[purple rain]

You could view this as synchronistic. Ask and You shall receive...:) Maybe??
You may find this to be of interest:
http://www.youtube.com/user/daniela1771#p/u/43/JxwmGCFSVCE

http://www.youtube.com/user/daniela1771#p/u/42/A72voXqkVys

http://www.youtube.com/user/daniela1771#p/u/64/AP7GPMpSi88

The Truth is so simple...IT's beyond the comprehension of many...

I believe in synchronicities alright. I've felt for some time, beginning around the Obama elections that the false ego is the key to our being here. When I saw liberals do a switch into being neo-liberals who encourage bloodshed that was so instructive. I also saw better how issues of mine I hadn't noticed yet existed for those around me, and being around them made me notice them in myself.

Those are fascinating, thanks! Just starting vid 2. I didn't know Jung was so interesting ... the Matrix explanations are great too. Maybe I should watch vid 2 because I'm not sure how a creator could be unconscious if he created Job. I mean there maybe egomaniacal elitits in our world who have little humanity but they didn't have to design a human being ... beings who have feelings.

[lyghtkynge]

DESCENT OF THE SUN
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"This time I saw a vision of ancient Mayan Seers. It was a time called 'the Gathering' where all the great Sorcerers would gather together to realize great visions. As they surrounded the great pyramid they would all watch the Sun overhead. As the Sun moved overhead, the vision of the Sorcerers was so strong that it was as if the Sun was actually there seated atop the pyramid. Spontaneous combustion occurred throughout the area and among the gathering of Sorcerers. Each Sorcerer danced in the personal vision of this fire. In this fire they raced through transformation from flesh and bone to ashes and again to newly formed flesh and bone. Organs were burnt and bone was charred, but the new flesh came as organ and bone transformed into opal brilliance. This day many large Crystal Skulls were left behind from the Light Beings that were given entrance by the gateway created out of 'the Gathering.' These Light Beings went around to each Sorcerer placing within their fire many opal eggs and feathers made to adorn the activity of transformation going on within the fire.

"As the day moved out of this suspended moment, the Light Beings went back through the gateway and the Sun returned to the sky. Only the Crystal Skulls remained. Many of the Sorcerers were unharmed although there were a few that did not survive. They were left in a small pile of ashes. The whole area was charred except for the immediate area around those Sorcerers that survived.

"I was once again in the company of Master Q and the Sorceress, Lady Circe. They harmonized their thoughts in my brain.

"Great feats of Sorcery were accomplished in a time that changed Earth forever. You know many of these Sorcerers that were there that day who are now frustrated in their attemtps at understanding their current predicament. They had, at one time, suspended time and brought the Sun out of the heavens to rest atop the pyramid in order to bask in the glow of transformation that destroyed everything else except those of greater impeccability. To accomplish this task you must do something almost impossible.

"You had divided the great Oneness and in it you chose an aspect existence to concentrate on issues of impeccability that seem small, minor and trivial. You did this with the realization that once these issues were dealt with you could return to the flame existence more gloriously and permanently. In this state the suspended moment can continue into eternity and you may follow those Light Beings, known as 'the Sorcerers of the Other Side,' into the gateway to the Unknown and enter the ancient fellowship as an initiate and partake of those mysteries. Their opal eggs and feathers would be your new bone and flesh and a home in the Beyond.'
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)
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[lyghtkynge]

ASCENT INTO THE SUN
http://members.aon.at/shogunfighters/HP%20Bilder/Golden%20Dragon%20&%20Sun%20.jpg
"As I constructed the spiraling direction that I had been instructed to in meditation I could hear the voice of Master Q ask if I was ready to see his real body. It was in this moment that I felt myself hurled through time and space at a furious speed approaching the Sun.As I got closer I could feel myself disassociate several times under the impact of the gravitational force. It seemed as if I was viewing it from at least four different perspectives. Each perspective was closer and clearer than the one before.

"In one final disassociation, the perspective was one in which I saw the Sun not as one would see it from a planet or as a firey ball of yellow or white fire, but as a spectrum of color. The surface of the Sun was like a clear sheet of glass that revealed an inner core of multi-colored opalescent and irredescent Dragons swimming in an ocean of pure clarity. Among these dragons were geysers of immense size and energy gushing up from the ocean like a giant wave that seemed in complete control of itself. I could see the veritable panorama of spirals and waves in forms that amazed my mind by their size, intensity and power. From this dance of light I could hear a voice inviting me to enter.

"'You have entered my real body. Do you note how I am unlimited in scope,' he said in thudner and not in words.

"In truth I could feel myself all over the Solar System aware of myself in different circumstances. The most significant was my present life upon the Earth, several past lives upon Mars, a parallel life as an Alchemist on Saturn and facing a test of Emancipation in a Black Hole in some other part of the Universe. In one past life upon Mars I watched an interesting and familiar civilization. It was a nomadic race that had just recently settled upon Mars, that would eventually give birth to the Mayans upon Earth. They were extremely advanced engineers able to etherically travel to the Sun and retrieve a distillate of its substance that had a cool, almost cold, energy in order to fashion Crystal Skulls. I could see that this distillate is the substance of clarity. It was considered a most valuable commodity by those ancient travelers who spared no effort or expense to collect it.
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)
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[vladmir]

Wow, thanks lk for those remarkable quotes, i cant wait for my copy of 'Scales of the Dragon'....will have so much to talk then...!

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Here's an excerpt for Hank Wesselman's book describing a Twin-Soul's (one living in the present one living 5,000 in the future) shamanic journey:
"Their conscious awareness then began to expand outward once again, and he became aware of a great, dark, circular orb of immense proportions, from whose margins the omnipresent orange-golden light seemed to radiate.

'What is it?' Nainoa asked.

'It is our star, the sun, the source of the life force here in our part of the Universe,' came the American's response.

'Why is it dark?' queried the Hawaiian.

The answer arrived immediately. 'I believe it appears dark because of the reversal effect. In ordinary reality, it is blindingly bright, but when I cross the barrier into the spiritual dimensions, everything appears to me in color negative. Why this is so, I do not know.'

'You will recall some of the wisdom we received from the dorajuadiok out in the spirit hills,' the American continued.'
It was there that we learned that stars posses consciousness - the collective conscious awareness of everything within their solar system.
In this same way, our awareness is part of our star's awareness.
Let us see if we can approach it, but carefully. I have never been this close to it before.'

...On final approach, there was no all-consuming fire, no million-degree heat to incinerate them and convert them into elemental wisps of carbon. The enormous gravity of the great stellar being was most real, however, and they were drawn closer and closer until impact seemed inevitable.
Then something totally unexpected occurred. They 'flew' through the surface of the sun, finding themselves immersed within the surroundings that seemed to be composed of moving streams of contrasting lightness and darkness - an etheric, golden pattern flowing in ordered directions.
There was also a sound, a ponderous vibrational tone not unlike the tolling of some monumental bell or gong.
They simply rested there, within the sun's shadow ocean, marveling at the star's living, golden presence.

Nainoa suddenly received one of the American's boyhood memories, a chunk of information he had apparently acquired while exploring huge rooms filled with strange objects in a building of immense proportions. As Nainoa's curiosity arose, a thought from the American's mind came in response.

'Egypt..these things are housed in a museum in the city of my birth. The memory you picked up concerned a long-dead king called Amenhotep the 4th.
This man changed his name to Ahkenaten when he initiated a new religion centered on the worship of the sun.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGC/StaticFiles/Images/Show/35xx/358x/3585_tuts-treasures-1_04700300.jpg

This Pharaoh, as the Egyptians called their kings, was considered a heretic by the people of his time, yet he was a great mystic who understood the star for what it is - a creator being.
He had its symbol depicted on the temple walls as the aten, the sun disk. The literal translation of the Pharoah's name Ahk-en-aten meant 'Shadow of the Sun.'

...A rolling clap of thunder was heard, as their merged awareness shifted in response, as though they had passed through some doorway and entered yet another level in which all sense of separateness was lacking.
Now there was only the One, and they were a part of this Oneness, as was their star, ...as was everything, everywhere.

The great lacy aka net of the pattern could be seen stretching into infinity across time and space in every direction, forever. The fibers closest to them could be dimly seen as distinct lines, but these rapidly merged into the misty distance filled with luminous light. There was a subtle color, a yellowish tone to the infinite vastness. Their awareness shifted again, and the light now seemed to be made up of countless dots, creating a moving golden field that was both warm and light, both cool and dark.

The movement within this great, glowing immensity seemed to express a subtle vibrational quality, suggesting that this golden light was unmistakably alive. It seemed to be both calm and agitated, both stationary and in motion. The intensity of it was enormous, almost unbearable. As their merged minds searched for a concept to describe it, a word arrived virtually simultaneously in both Hawaiian and English.

'Nani...beauty.'

Like the infinitely smaller cloud of the human spirit, this greater radiance, composed of moving dots or particles of living gold, was growing, its aliveness and mind-spirit determined by all that it contains.
There was no question that the power in association with the field was capable of everything, its potential unlimited. And pervading the 'all' was a sense of tranquility, an absolute peace.
The merged awareness of the American and Hawaiian floated awestruck in this endless radiance, and a thought appeared, a memory of something that they learned out in Africa when they had been given a glimpse o fit through the dorajuadiok -
that this golden light was, is, and will always be, the mysterious Source of all being - the eternal IAO, the all-knowing One."

Source:
http://www.divinecosmos.com/forums/showpost.php?p=42628&postcount=52

[vladmir]

http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/d/dante/d19pa/plates/31-1.jpg

Even assuming the ancient philosophers regarded The Sun as an expression of The Central Divine Light or Fire, ....their writings suggest a deep reverence I find strangely missing among almost all contemporary theologies, with possibly the singular exception of the Native American Indians! Native Americans express reverence for The Sun, NOT worship!

The reason for the reverence is simply because The Sun is a shining example of Light manifestation, without which we would instantly die! Are not our most respected spiritual leaders vehicles for, expressions of Divine qualities? Still we seem blind to the most obvious and powerful embodiment of Light in our every day life! Could other cultures and traditions possibly have something we might learn from and grow to appreciate?

Here are a couple excellent books I can recommend. Light is a Living Spirit, by Omraam M. Aivanhov, and Cosmos in Man, by Torkom Saraydarian.
These two great masters offer the following information: Highly advanced Initiates can travel to The Sun, and gain firsthand knowledge of what It really is. They see sunbeams not just as photons, but a source of subtle nourishment we can use to further our spiritual progress. Light IS a living Spirit which comes through the Sun and establishes a direct relationship with our own spirit. We may experience the power of The Sun's rays, and feel the full force of their purity, their godliness, but it's necessary to prepare ourselves every day, for our encounter with them.

Aivanhov tells us, "If you don't prepare yourself, you will be like all the other comatose human beings who let the Sun's rays pass them by without realizing what wealth they contain. So concentrate on the Sun's rays: long for them, seek them out, love and cherish them, open up your hearts to them, and you will begin to understand the meaning of creation; your own lives will become creative, meaningful and full of wonder. This is why it is so important for a disciple to learn to work with Light. If you only knew the power, purity, and intelligence contained in just one ray of Sunlight!"

He goes on to suggest we organize our lives around The Light, regularly breathing Light to prepare for meeting The Sun.

"Behind the visible sun is the Heart of The Sun, which is the source of Love - the outpouring Love of the Creator. Hidden behind that Sun is the Central Spiritual Sun, which is the Source of Life. It is all-embracing compassion, and in esoteric literature is called the Great Magnet, or The Great Mother, which continually attracts all Soul Sparks back to Herself! Through this attraction process which we call Love, each Spark, no matter how far away - is attracted to that Central Core, the Cosmic Magnet, which is inhaling slowly, drawing all of us back Home. This is Evolution!" (T. Saraydarian, Cosmos in Man)

Throughout history The Sun has played an important role in our understanding of who or what is Divine! As we consider the perspective of various cultures, we may grow in appreciation for The Sun, who offers a remarkable, inspiring example of radiant, beautiful Light, which can manifest through us all as Love, Freedom and Peace!
Source: http://www.amazon.com/review/R15KG96F36F9MN

[novymir]

The sun is black. It's a black hole. The Black Sun... look at it, and you'll see.;) If you dare...

But then again, you should know better than to believe everything you read on the net, right?

[lyghtkynge]

The sun is black. It's a black hole. The Black Sun... look at it, and you'll see.;) If you dare...

But then again, you should know better than to believe everything you read on the net, right?
. ..http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Ra_black_sun.jpg
Gee, n, we already had this discussion in another form on another thread (Dark Masters). You just ignored it; now, you support it. If you had been a bit more discerning at that time, we'd probably be more tolerant of one another (?). I mean, when somebody says something that supports what you've just posted, shouldn't that be taken as a concurrence, rather than disagreement?

You may wish to re-peruse that posting: Here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058342188&postcount=136://)

"after some 20 years of tireless dedication to his in depth research on unification, nassim haramein's most recent scientific paper, "the schwarzschild proton," just received an award at the university of liege, belgium during the 9th international conference casys'09 (computing anticipatory systems).

"Chosen by a panel of 13 peer reviewers, the paper won the prestigious "best paper award" in the field of "physics, quantum mechanics, relativity, field theory, and gravitation." this significant paper marks a new paradigm in the world of quantum theory, as it describes the nuclei of an atom as a mini black hole, where protons are attracted to each other by gravitation rather than some mysterious undefined "strong force." this radical new view of the quantum world produces a unification of the forces and appropriately predicts measured values for the nucleon of atoms.

"Much more work must be done to complete the picture, yet this simple paper is already producing remarkable results!"
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=1971

Now, please bear in mind that Nassim also hypothesizes the same for celestial bodies, including galaxies.

I made the same statement, only broader, two years ago before I had ever even heard of Nassim Haramein, and was laughed at by everyone, including a fellow who was also very wise; so wise, in fact, that he believed in almost nothing beyond what he could see...until a near death experience (NDE). Then, he began to believe in the afterlife. And he had seen 'orb ships' while fishing in the ocean as part of his work: he thusly postulated that 'greys' existed, but refused to acknowledge 'reptilians.' Now, that ain't fair, I'd say, but to each their own, yes?

[Want to read the passage? It's a little heavy, and I erased all the postings under that user id due to harassment, but I still have it copied, plus the original dates, if interested.]

Also, you may wish to read this post of mine from 7-07-09 here on Icke:
The Black Sun (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1101381&postcount=39)
[Excerpt:] Pg. 76: "In this way, we, too, were fortunate enough to receive the gift from Inti. Our grandparents preoccupied themselves with preseving this knowledge in all of its purity, inculcating the respect and love required to diseminate that knowledge by word of mouth. Their intent was to change us into mystics of the sun. Our father in the celestial paths and the realm of visible things, is also the visible symbol of the creator, of that other, dark sun, black, (whom we adepts all know and whose emanation, hidden from our eyes, has a powerful brilliance that we shall someday be able to contemplate because it is inside of us), that sun of the spirit.
.. "It is within that we must look for it because, if not, we will never find it, no matter how far we search. As I have told you throughout these past few days, each person is a sun that desperately seeks the Great Sun, the light beyond life and death. We are fire, sparks of the flame coated by matter and housed in our heads.
.. "A sun in miniature will grow until it converts itself into the god that we carry inside. Our internal sun will develop. You will have to learn to relate the sun to the Father creator of all things and the divine spark to man. We are children of the sun (Intic Churincuma). We are its image, its likeness.
.. "What I am telling you is maintained by the majority of illumined beings in their teachings and, in a veiled form, by the more orthodox churches of today. Man has the duty and the obligation to fight against materialization--against the crystalization of the body--by seeking its purification and liberation. That is to say, he must save his life from amoung the ruins of his temple and elevate it so that it may occupy its true evolutionary place."
("The Wisdom of the Ancient One," Anton Ponce de Leon Paiva)
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2271/blacksun8tw.jpghttp://www.maximumblackfestival.com/bilder/maximum_black_sun_300.jpg
Now, surely we have some agreement? Or are you just being oppositional for opposition's sake?
You know that isn't helpful to one's soul.

[vladmir]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417NPSXQGKL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
The Wisdom of the Ancient One, An Inca Initiation.
Very nice cover!



Also, you may wish to read this post of mine from 7-07-09 here on Icke:
The Black Sun (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1101381&postcount=39)
[Excerpt:] Pg. 76: "In this way, we, too, were fortunate enough to receive the gift from Inti. Our grandparents preoccupied themselves with preseving this knowledge in all of its purity, inculcating the respect and love required to diseminate that knowledge by word of mouth. Their intent was to change us into mystics of the sun. [COLOR="Red"]Our father in the celestial paths and the realm of visible things, is also the visible symbol of the creator, of that other, dark sun, black, (whom we adepts all know and whose emanation, hidden from our eyes, has a powerful brilliance that we shall someday be able to contemplate because it is inside of us), that sun of the spirit.
.. "It is within that we must look for it because, if not, we will never find it, no matter how far we search. As I have told you throughout these past few days, each person is a sun that desperately seeks the Great Sun, the light beyond life and death. We are fire, sparks of the flame coated by matter and housed in our heads.
.. "A sun in miniature will grow until it converts itself into the god that we carry inside. Our internal sun will develop. You will have to learn to relate the sun to the Father creator of all things and the divine spark to man. We are children of the sun (Intic Churincuma). We are its image, its likeness.
.. "What I am telling you is maintained by the majority of illumined beings in their teachings and, in a veiled form, by the more orthodox churches of today. Man has the duty and the obligation to fight against materialization--against the crystalization of the body--by seeking its purification and liberation. That is to say, he must save his life from amoung the ruins of his temple and elevate it so that it may occupy its true evolutionary place."
("The Wisdom of the Ancient One," Anton Ponce de Leon Paiva)
.....What a magnificent quote!!!! Thank you for that lk as always, talk about synchronicity...i was just about to mention a wise man named Mark Pinkham in my following post!
http://i45.tinypic.com/rsfsyb.png
There is another fascinating book titled
'The Return of the Serpents of Wisdom' by Mark Amaru Pinkham, where to author talks more about Antón Ponce de León Paiva's encouter with the SOLAR BROTHERHOOD.

"Following his initiation into the Solar Brotherhood, Anton began the long process of ascending through the seven degrees of enlightenment.
The Grandmasters of the Intic Churincuna, which included the ancient adept Amaru Muru, had reached the seventh level, and become Illac Umas, "heads shining with Wisdom".
These renowned masters, who were called Amarus or Serpents,
possessed supernatural powers and lived to a very old age."
http://books.google.com/books?id=46Hfa0Ss-kIC&pg=PA165

Additionally, i would suggest guys go to the cover of the book in the link above in googlebooks, and SEE the index!!!

Also check out his interview here (skip to 13:55 in the interview):
http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/mpinkham.htm

[vladmir]

http://greyfalcon.us/pictures/swastikas.bmp
For those interested:

http://gizadeathstar.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/reich.jpg
Reich of the Black Sun - Nazi Secret Weapons & the Cold War Allied Legend - Joseph P. Farrell
http://www.scribd.com/doc/4451937/Reich-of-the-Black-Sun-Nazi-Secret-Weapons-the-Cold-War-Allied-Legend

http://www.world-mysteries.com/PhilipGardiner/mylius_9.jpg
The Black Sun - The Alchemy and Art of Darkness.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19308105/The-Black-Sun-The-Alchemy-and-Art-of-Darkness

The black sun, an ages-old image of the darkness in individual lives and in life itself, has not been treated hospitably in the modern world. Although modern psychology has seen darkness primarily as a negative force, it actually has an intrinsic importance to the human psyche. In this book, Jungian analyst Stanton Marlan reexamines the paradoxical image of the black sun and the meaning of darkness in Western culture.

Marlan draws on not only clinical cases, but also literature such as Goethe's Faust and Dante's Inferno, the black art of Rothko and Reinhardt, and other inspirations to explore the influence of light and shadow on the fundamental structures of modern thought as well as the contemporary practice of analysis. He shows that the black sun accompanies not only the most negative of psychic experiences but also the most sublime.

The Black Sun offers insight into modernity, the act of imagination, and the work of analysis in understanding depression, trauma, and transformation of the soul. A contribution to the understanding of alchemical psychology, this book draws on a postmodern sensibility to develop an original way to look at the black sun and helps us explore the unknown darkness conventionally called the Self.

[vladmir]

http://www.savitridevi.org/images/photo-lightning1.jpg
The Lightning and the Sun by Savitri Devi.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14082014/The-Lightning-and-the-Sun-

Dedication quoted from inside the book:

To the god-like Individual of our times;
the Man against Time;
the greatest European of all times;
both Sun and Lightning:
ADOLF HITLER,
as a tribute of unfailing love and loyalty, for ever and ever.

A word of Warning from vladmir to those coming across these works for the first time:
Be careful, and if you dont know what you are doing, dont do it.
If you dont feel like reading these books, then dont.

[lyghtkynge]

. . . . . . . . . .The Prime Archetypes of
. The Serpent-Sun: ARC-Circle-Triangle-Square
http://www.rosarioeduca.com.ar/nuevostiempos/Tapa_Y_el_anciano_hablo.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/AntonPdL.jpg
http://www.lanacion.com.ar/archivo/anexos/fotos/16/1025516.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/chipyramid.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/garuda.jpghttp://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/HigherEnergy.jpg

[purple rain]

Savitri Devi huh? Do people actually take this shit seriously? She's obviously a deranged individual. And anyone who feels the need to take on an Indian name or say namaste because oooh its mystical is brain damaged. Sometimes you can warp your mind by reading evry kind of shit out there.

[lyghtkynge]

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/SS.jpg
The Prime Archetypes are Most Powerful In Their Impersonal Aspects, having also many Personal Aspects. These are the 'perceived' Good n Bad Aspects as viewed by mankind. You are in a Container of Duality, as I have shown over & over, and it is not mistaken. To ReUnite the Dualities is the Work, for which the Gift of Life has been Given. It is the Very Prime Ray of Life, being of ItSelf Dualed-Into One, never Seperate. Your Job is To Repeat the Process with Color/Sound, so that New may Be Made: It is the Self-ReGenerative Aspect, that the Mother-Father cannot Achieve on It's Own: It is The Emanational Secondary Aspect, or True Shadow of ItSelf, called the Daughter-Son Being-Presence, Seperated, that enables this to Occur. You are In That Process, but have forgotten: Once you 'leave home,' home dies.

This is the Path of the ALONE-LY Traveler, to Re-Create A New HOme. And aslo why I Urge each to learn of the Impersonal Prime Archetypes, for They Are Ever-Pure, untainted with Singular Bands/Frequencies, and once connected with, it is Quickly Discerned that They Are Alive, and not what you'd expect. This is Beyond the mind of the animal, even that of the super-advanced animal, mankind, the CenterPiece.

I would rather not have had those injudicious pictures posted here, but I understand the 'seemingly necessary' message. Concepts of the Black Sun go south fast around most all humans, and mention of the Swastica create total upheaval: Here's a superb thread on it:
The ROYAL SECRET and RAPHAEL expose the FREEMASONS (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83136&highlight=swastica)

I wish any to consider carefully the nature of this following message:
Take the yin-yang, Symbol of the Dualities (actually, All-Everything), real and extant in 'their' effects upon the lives of Everything, and imagine it as a Ball, or One Whole:
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/tao-3.jpg
Now, please pick any Half of the Ball, and go play some imaginary basketball, or any ball game you may enjoy in your mind. It certainly doesn't perform right, does it? Now, pick up the other Half and put them together, as shown in the lower half of the diagram: Now, play some imaginary Ball with that...a Whole Ball. Black & White--Evil & Good, Chaos & Order (etc.).

That's why they call it Integration, and the Human lower-mind/low-ego, has been trained to resist ItSelf via Polarization to One-Half or the Other. This is done through understood means, many of which are discussed on forums like Icke, and everywhere in life. Understanding the Prime Principles leads to the necessary knowledge required to accomplish the Impossible: Integration, or Perfect Balance. Everything shuts down in the Material Level when this is accomplished, for the 'Individual,' 'group,' 'planet,' 'galaxy,' 'universe.'

It is always easier to expect to change if you seek to understand what has eluded humanity as a herd. This must Incorporate Both Sides, which contain All FourFold Forces of Creation; these include The Immaterial Within Them, as the Mateial is only Half, the Reflection of the Immaterial. These Two Prime Halves are revealed in the Double-Dorje, the Double-Double-Vortexes, of which I and others have spoken much. Denying there Generational/ReGenerational Substance-Forcex2-Energy Being-Presence doesn't make Them 'go-away'...that's the Ignorant hiding in a Closet, waiting for a mediator/savior. When the 'savior' comes, It will Consume you, 100% Guaranteed.

. .Here are the Four Forces Operating In/Upon Existence, & Quintessence.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Can you spot what's Really happening?)
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/SSVA-0.jpg
"The Earth is about ready to become a 'sun'--not liek the Sun of your System,--but it shall be surrounded by a golden corona. It is stepping into a higher rate of vibration. It will become a 'sun;' but it is not known in your system of astronomy becasue it has never been viewed by your astronomers. You are going from a three dimensional to a fourth dimensional world. No longer will others be able to see you or your world. This must necessarily take place as you pass through the heart of the great cosmic cloud."
("Secret of the Andes," Brother Philip [aka George Hunt Williamson], 1961)

Regardless what one believes, the Melchizedeks, Earth's Rulers/Guardians/Gardeners, are taking care of Their own, and they have Super-Imposed Their I-Mage Control over the Natural Spriit of this Solar System, the Galaxy, and many other Galaxies! This is Their Purpose, and They Do Not Love You, anymore than a human loves a pet-farm animal, who is also ravenously hungry, and it is the only pet around.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/Inca-0.jpg
Of course, the herd could be right and its those genius old farts with all the money who the other humans just have to 'stop.' But of course! Have they thought of asking nicely to stop being greedy & merciless? But no! Let's get right to that agenda, ignore everything else: those options work wonders, yes? The Herd is he Herd...a very smart animal, but created of Ignorance & Innocence, operating from the Unconscious-Subconscious-Conscious levels, when the SupraConscious is Required to Complete the ARC.

Re-read the last sentence, so you are no longer Ignorant. Immaterial 4th-cusp-5th Dimensional Awareness, NOW...not tomorrow, when you finally think you'll have time to figure this out.

[purple rain]

But you're not in the 5th dimension are you?

[vladmir]

A BRILLIANT work by Savitri Devi on the truth about the Egyptian King Aknnaton.
http://i49.tinypic.com/33zfntd.jpg

Savitri Devi - Joy of the Sun (1942).
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35128/Savitri-Devi-Joy-of-the-Sun-1942

Excerpts:
..(page 18)
On that very day, the prince was sitting with his mother on one of the
terraces of the palace. He was telling her about his history lesson. He could
not overcome the impression that the story of the captives' torture had
produced on him. "Do all the gods want us to be cruel?" he asked at last.
The Sun was setting. The queen pointed to the glorious orb above the
western hills. "No," she answered, "not all of them; not He. See how
beautiful He is." And she spoke to him of Aton — the Sun-disk — the oldest
god of Egypt, the god she loved. "He is kind," she said in a tender voice,
"He causes the corn to ripen and the lilies to come forth; He is the Father of
all life whom they worship in the sacred city of On from the beginning of the
world."
"Then, why do the priests say that Amon is the same as the Sun?"
asked the prince.
"Priests talk a lot of nonsense, when it suits their purpose," said
Queen Tiy, as if speaking to herself. And she added in a louder voice, with a
smile: "Don't listen to the priests, my son, listen to your own heart."

...(page 26)
But the young Pharaoh hardly ever spoke about religion
even if pressed to do so. "Words nothing but words," he would say of the
courtiers' discussions. "They prattle about that of which they have no
knowledge, just to pass time." And in the solitude of his chamber he thought
of his God — the almighty Sun.
The glorious Disk shone above him, far away in the cloudless sky, so
brilliant that one could not set one's eyes upon it. And its rays poured into
the room, straight down upon the king. It was these rays that he had wished
to picture on the many-coloured reliefs that decorated the walls of the temple
of Aton, though no work of man could express their beauty.
"They may say what they like," thought the king, remembering the
idle talks of the priests, "but Aton is not like those gods that dwell in a
particular place. He is honoured in On, but all the world sees His light and
lives by His touch. His abode is the sky; His rays embrace the whole world as they do me. Aton is the God of all the world."

And as he thought this, it was as if the expanse of the world were
before him. He knew that, past the boundaries of his empire, there were
other countries: Babylonia and Mitanni, the land of the Hittites and Crete,
and the Isles in the midst of the sea and unknown countries beyond the
desert and beyond the Waterfalls. Their people had different gods; but the
sky spread over them all and it was the same sky; and above them all, the
Sun shone in His glory, and it was the same Sun — Aton. They knew their
local sun-gods, but knew Him not. Somewhere perhaps, further than
Babylon, among the nations Of Dawn from whose lands He rises, there were
men who knew Him. It was difficult to say. But whether in ignorance or in
knowledge, all people were seeking to worship Him.

The young king felt a thrill of enthusiasm run through his body, as if
he could already behold, beyond time and space, the vision of that which
nobody had dreamt before: one God — the Sun; and one people — the
human race — united in the love of Him.


And this response of the Queen to her Son, is very relevant, wouldnt you say?

.........Queen Tiy listened with sympathetic interest to all what her son told
her about his conception of Aton, but she opposed the decrees.
"Perhaps you are right," she said to him, though his idea of a God,
Who, was the God of all nations seemed rather strange, even to her; "but
religion is one thing, and government is another. You will only provoke the
priests by your decrees. And they, in turn, will stir up the mob."
"Then what am I to do?"
"Let things be as they are. Let the priests make money, as they are used
to, and let the people worship their many gods according to age-old customs.
One cannot make a camel drink when it is not thirsty; nor can one force
knowledge unto people who do not seek it."

[vladmir]

The swastika, the earliest known symbol, and its migrations : with observations on the migration of certain industries in prehistoric times (1896)
Download for free here, (NOT IN COPYRIGHT)
http://www.archive.org/details/theswastika00wilsuoft

Greg - On the Meaning & Origin of the Fylfot & Swastika - 1884 - Complete
http://www.scribd.com/doc/14204585/Greg-On-the-Meaning-Origin-of-the-Fylfot-Swastika-1884-Complete

http://www.ceupress.com/books/pictures/ScienceoftheSwastika.jpg
The Science of the Swastika.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/23971726/The-Science-of-the-Swastika

[phildee3]

But you're not in the 5th dimension are you?



Yes we are.
We're in all dimensions simultaneously.
It's just a matter of where your consciousness is.

[purple rain]

Wouldn't that person physically disappear?

[phildee3]

Does your etheric body disappear just because you are not conscious of it?

[purple rain]

I just thought different dimensions are invisible to us.

[phildee3]

I just thought different dimensions are invisible to us.



The etheric body is invisible to the physical eye, of course.

Are you not more than your physical body?

[vladmir]

[Want to read the passage? It's a little heavy, and I erased all the postings under that user id due to harassment, but I still have it copied, plus the original dates, if interested.
yes...very much so.
But as they say, all in good time...

"A sun in miniature will grow until it converts itself into the god that we carry inside. Our internal sun will develop. You will have to learn to relate the sun to the Father creator of all things and the divine spark to man. We are children of the sun (Intic Churincuma). We are its image, its likeness.

http://api.ning.com/files/ZZ4Jc1AhVQlvQtsEcW084iiRsk-QL8Yr7Gl3V5MtXjbQh-0agURFwa6Nb0AuwaWrXBw9TdhnnEan0Qi7kHPwMVXir-IcnpuX/illumination.jpg

Through the long history of the world, even in the darkest and most ignorant of times, there have always been some individuals who found the light within themselves and realized their relationship with the Sun. These men seldom left their names known to posterity, but by their self-enlightenment formed a brotherhood of wise men dedicated to helping their fellow men to the benefit of all mankind. It is the responsibility of every individual, young and old, to so find the light within, to so master the physical body in which the spirit dwells, that their attainment will contribute to the uplift and future evolvement of humanity as a whole. For we are all Children of the Sun, still immature, and with a long, long journey of self-unfoldment ahead of us in Time, Motion, and Change.

The Sun Children are considered the true Earth people, in that they first experienced individuated soul/mind while on Earth as dream children of their star-being parents. Some say that these first Children of the Sun were the Adawees, great angelic beings from the Pleiades.

The Solar Brotherhood was considered by many to be the first manifestation of the 'Great White Brotherhood' on Earth. This Brotherhood was thought to have been brought to Earth from Venus by an adept known as 'The Kumara' (Father of Sanat Kumara), a name which has the meaning of 'androgenous Serpent'. You can find references to the Kumaras in the Hindu Puranas where they are described as being the first teachers of Yoga on the planet.

Indeed, the roots of all ancient civilizations have been tied to some form of sun worship, and it is believed that many early members of the Solar Brotherhood established centers associated with the Sun, such as Heliopolis in Egypt. Through oral history, legend and myth, many around the globe await a re-embodied Brotherhood and Sisterhood to awaken and unite the people of the world to the emergence of the great 'Fifth Solar Cycle'.


http://www.sun-nation.org/Children%20of%20the%20SUN.html

http://i46.tinypic.com/20ax8oo.jpg

[purple rain]

The etheric body is invisible to the physical eye, of course.

Are you not more than your physical body?

Yes.

But that's what I meant to ask. The physical body disappears? There are people that do this?

[phildee3]

Yes.

But that's what I meant to ask. The physical body disappears? There are people that do this?

Do what? Become aware of your higher bodies?
Of course, - you have. How else would you know that you have them?

[purple rain]

Do what? Become aware of your higher bodies?
Of course, - you have. How else would you know that you have them?

:rolleyes: Disappear from this world from other peoples eyes?

[phildee3]

Disappear from this world from other peoples eyes?



Why should it? Just because your consciousness is not in one of your bodies doesn't mean that body doesn't exist, or that others can't see it.

[purple rain]

Because.




"The Earth is about ready to become a 'sun'--not liek the Sun of your System,--but it shall be surrounded by a golden corona. It is stepping into a higher rate of vibration. It will become a 'sun;' but it is not known in your system of astronomy becasue it has never been viewed by your astronomers. You are going from a three dimensional to a fourth dimensional world. No longer will others be able to see you or your world. This must necessarily take place as you pass through the heart of the great cosmic cloud."
("Secret of the Andes," Brother Philip [aka George Hunt Williamson], 1961)

[phildee3]

Because.



Ah, now you're talking about the ascension of a body - ie. the physical world raising up one dimensional level.

Of course, a four-dimensional body is invisible to a three-dimensional body.

[purple rain]

Ok.

I must say though that some of these people have got to be mentally unsound. And what is the point in taking any channelled information seriously. I can understand that some have a problem with religious figures but abandoning that in favour of this is just ... lunacy.

George Hunt Williamson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[phildee3]

Ok.

I must say though that some of these people have got to be mentally unsound. And what is the point in taking any channelled information seriously. I can understand that some have a problem with religious figures but abandoning that in favour of this is just ... lunacy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hunt_Williamson



I don't see the difference between "channellers" and "religious figures."
Aren't they the same thing?

And yes, "some of these people are mentally unsound."
So, therefore, not all channelled information should be discarded as being nonsense.

[purple rain]

For one thing religion is nowhere as far out in their claims.

Yes, its some and not all. I was referring to that Williamson person for example. Here's another one I can't resist pointing out. So this is the story behind the black sun idea. How nice.


Tempelhofgesellschaft
Main article: Esoteric Nazism#Tempelhofgesellschaft
There is a Gnostic religion called the Tempelhofgesellschaft founded in the early 1990s in Vienna, Austria that distributes pamphlets claiming that the Aryan race originally came to Atlantis from the star Aldebaran (this information is supposedly based on "ancient Sumerian manuscripts"). The Tempelhofgesellschaft maintains that the Aryans from Aldebaran derive their power from the vril energy of the Black Sun. They teach that since the Aryan race is of extraterrestrial origin, it has a divine mission to dominate all the other races. It is believed by adherents of this religion that an enormous space fleet is on its way to Earth from Aldebaran which, when it arrives, will join forces with the Nazi Flying Saucers from Antarctica to establish the Western Imperium. [14] Aldebaran is a Red Giant star and main sequence stars are more likely to be life sustaining.


Great, what an enlightened philosophy. Let's bow down to the superior Space Nazi's. What a load of horseshit.

[phildee3]

For one thing religion is nowhere as far out in their claims.



Uh, the claim of a god directly writing on stone tablets is less far out than a meditator giving a verbal message??

okay, if you say so!


As for the rest of your post, I'm not interested in horseshit.
Don't really understand why you are.

[purple rain]

Uh, the claim of a god directly writing on stone tablets is less far out than a meditator giving a verbal message??

okay, if you say so!


As for the rest of your post, I'm not interested in horseshit.
Don't really understand why you are.


Atleast they don't speak of aliens aligned with Nazi's or etheric cities above the Gobi desert and people who travel to Venus.

I wonder now if Boney M were enlightened masters?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Boney_M._-_Nightflight_To_Venus.jpg



That last post is on topic, it's related to the Black Sun discussion back there.

[phildee3]

Aliens, angels,
same thing - different culture.

And what's the difference between etheric cities above the Gobi desert and a giant, cubic New Jerusalem coming down from the sky (besides "ecclesiastical approbation")?


The Black Sun philosophy is way pre-Nazi.
In it's uncorrupted form it is very interesting and relevent.

Suggest reading Rudolf Steiner on this (to those who are interested).

[purple rain]

Fair enough on New Jerusalem. But still nothing about flying saucers or using your penis or vagina to power it. ;)

I might, but I find it difficult to accept people who peddle race ideas as being based in reality as being serious. Atleast by now we ought to know that this is bullshit. My God, based on the achievements of blacks in music alone could be taken to mean that they are the most highest race. But there is no such bullshit. A lot of Euro folks I've come across, in their "order" and tendency to stereotype everything, appear to be the most automaton like. But that's largely a stereotype too. Steiner probably has some good points but I'm skeptical about how much people in the 19th century knew that we don't. Sure take over a country and paralyse them through warfare and then tell them that can't build a civilization.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner#Race_and_ethnicity

[phildee3]

Fair enough on New Jerusalem. But still nothing about flying saucers



Check out Ezekiel 1:15-17,
and there are loads of ecclesiastical artworks showing flying saucers!
http://iaanhughes.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/flying-saucer1.jpg

http://www.ufoevidence.org/images2/annunciation2.jpg

Again, the rest of your post is a downer.
I'm no more interested in bullshit than I am in horseshit.

[lyghtkynge]

But you're not in the 5th dimension are you?

Yes, I AM.

I have received the Gift of Grace, which cannot be Taken By Force, nor 'practiced.' Doesn't mean you are not to work, it refers to 'The Leap.' This is a Secret...the Ancient Elders are Awaiting at the Door...They drop more than they Lift Up. There are No Guarantees, so watch that smug attitude, folks....you can always laugh afterwards.

Yes.

But that's what I meant to ask. The physical body disappears? There are people that do this?

It does not disappear. That is called 'death.' It is of The Unconscious Generate, The Primordial Mother.

The body dies. If it reaches a High degree of Perfection in the physical, it can Self-ReGenerate ItSelf, and some can leave little but dust. Spontaneous Generation of 'physical forms' is Illegal in this System at this time (like sonic booms, analogy). This should make everyone sit and take notice...something is on Over-Ride! The Melchizedeks Power-Presence! They are the Enemy, the Ultra-Universal Invader Reptilian Aliens, and apparently only a few of us know this. Even yogi's-guru's-ascendant's don't suspect, for they are in Love (Bliss-Idiocy).
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[A personal comment to you:] You yourself said, 'everybody has to start somewhere.' Well, there are many who desire to show you how to skate...it can be slippery and difficult at first, and you'll fall alot. Either get up, or they will be willing to help you up. Pretty soon, you'll be skating good. And then...you'll get your own skates! And who knows, you may be better than your teachers. And it is Required of each to Share as they may.
http://solarblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/20/genie_skater_with_lamp_sun_and_smok.jpg
"YOU Are The Help From On High."

[lyghtkynge]

The Black Sun philosophy is way pre-Nazi.
In it's uncorrupted form it is very interesting and relevent.

Suggest reading Rudolf Steiner on this (to those who are interested).

phildee3, you are quite awesome! Calm, practical, reserved, un-afraid, brilliant.

purple dragon? I do not condone racial prejudice of any sort or kind.
It is unfortunate that vladmir brought that aspect of it up, but you also did not click & read Raphael's thread on the swatistica. The nazi were not stupid, and have prejudiced many otherwise intelligent minds against Ancient Truth. Emphasis on 'Truth.'

Saying people are out of their minds, that's a laugh. Sure, many, many go crazy with connection to the Invisible Forces (Dual), but Saneness is The Pre-Requisite of Attaining the Highest States! Creation is not what you 'believe' it to be.

And Tesla himself claimed he was from Venus!-->

"Tesla (image left) always claimed to a Venusian probably arrived on a space ship, The x-12 as a tiny baby, or again perhaps he came as a "thought" projection. He was brought by the ship at the stroke of midnight on July 9, 1856, but his birthday was recorded as the 10th.

He arrived in Smiljan, near Gospic in Lika Croatia. This is why he claimed that he was not born.

Tesla would get his information in "visions". Frances said that God's truest servants have lived by the power and guidance which came to them through their "visions" while they looked not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. This is how Tesla created his projects, visions which sometimes he sketched, even in the sand, then he just knew they would work and just assembled his project.

Tesla communicated with the Venusians with his Tesla Scope which he built in 1898. Then with Matthews he rebuilt it in 1938 and Matthews rebuilt it making it smaller and more streamlined. This Scope would emit a loud buzzing sound when the Venusians made contact. (There are drawings and what it was made of in the book).

After Tesla's death, Matthews was taken to Venus on the ship and also was given the privilege of using the Silver Ball Time Machine and saw the beautiful planet of Venus. He was also taken to Mars to visit the cities there too.

The Venusians say that when you receive the messages, you will, like most earth people, doubt. This is a strange things we find about people of Earth, their continued doubting.

You believe in things and yet you always doubt.

"We are amazed and saddened to find how much of your lives is devoted to inventing and using destructive machines with which you murder each other. You spend vast sums of money pretending to bring peace on earth, when you should know that the only way is obtaining peace is free - Through Christ: LOVE, so why waste your money?"

Frank said that he and Frances had been with Tesla a few days before he died, and that he had died a happy man. Frank handed Matthews an envelope from Tesla with important papers concerning the work which he must now continue to work on alone. When Frank and Matthews finished their talk about the work of the future, Frances had to say something. It was... Tesla's last message.

Here are a Few of the last few sentences.

When I have been saying that as one day of our lives is, so will in all probability the rest be, I am only insisting on the blessing of being able to take each unit of our lives as it comes, and making the best of it, making it perfect, making it ideal. One day well spent is a pledge for those that are coming.

Abraham Lincoln said, "The struggle of today is not altogether for tomorrow, it is for the vast future also. Every day is a gift I receive from Heaven, let me enjoy today that which it bestows upon me, and tomorrow belongs to no one".

There were many Venusians that attended his funeral also. There is also a drawing of a space craft that Tesla designed. He built it in 1917. It is rather cigar shaped. The description says, self-propelled aerial-Sel-automator, devoid of propeller, and wings-and all other means of External Control. can reach a predetermined point any distance away-radio controlled ... Reaction - Electric power NO NOISE... also used a sun battery."
THE WALL OF LIGHT NIKOLA TESLA AND THE VENUSIAN SPACE SHIP: THE -----X-- 12 (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_15.htm)
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_tesla/tesla15_01.jpg

And kindly read this, couldya wouldja? From my Post:

(Verbatim: all italics are the author's)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058385508&postcount=680
SONS OF THE SUN
"The first truly human being, because he could think and plan, was the black or negro race. This race came into existence in what is now generally conceded to have been Lemuria, probably then a part of warmest Africa nearest the Sargasso Sea. The pigmentation of the skin of the negro race shows him to have been sun or Heaven-born; that is, without the cohabitation of the sexes--spontaneously, by the sun.
. ."The second race in this classification is that of the colored, copper or red race. In this race must be included all colors of a copper, yellow or indian texture. Here also we have the impigmentation of the skin, but much less pronounced. This race came countless centuries later; mentally and physically developing during these centuries. These also were sun or Heaven-born; therefore, like the negro, worshippers of the sun. During the centuries between the beginning of the negro and the second distinct or colored race the sun had so far cooled that the pigmentation of the skin had been greatly reduced. Both races, being sun-born, instinctively recognized the sun as their father. They were, therefore, not idolators because of their worship, as we moderns so foolishly accuse, but true to their birthright. This race probably had its beginning in the Easter Islands then connected with both Mexico and Egypt.
. ."The third race is the Aryan, or pure white, race. The temperature and the sun had so far cooled that spontaneous creation was no longer possible; as a result, no longer any trace of pigmentation of the skin. This was the Adamic race. Jehovah was their God or Creator, and the sun was no longer recognized. These first parents had, through the ages, gradually seperated and developed the sex characteristic--the organs of conjugation. Their home was 'Eden'; that is, the Garden of eden--the earth. The six days during which the Creator--the evolutionary forces--took a rib from one sex--Adam (the seperation)--and created another sex--Eve--is that period during which the one sex was divided into two so that creation by union of sex, instead of spontaneously, could continue.
. ."Out of these three classes have sprung all other peoples which today inhabit the earth. Two of them were truly the children of God--the sun, while the last was not so favored, and must win their own salvation.
. ."What of the 'Soul' of man? After ages when man had developed the upright form and a brain capable of thinking and reasoning, the 'gods' saw that the daughters of men were fair and took them as 'wives,' which is to say, when the human habitation became fit places or temples, wherein a Soul might dwell, these Souls (gods) descended from Heaven, and man 'became a living Soul.'"
(From Prologue by R.Swinburne Clymer; "Our Story of Atlantis," W.P.Phelon, 1937)

I think you might adjust your Godlens somewhat, for in order to see into the Invisible with Inner Knowing, you cannot carry your corpse with you (reason). The material man is afraid of 'emptying his/her Cup,' for he fears s/he will lose their mind. And in the unprepared, this can be just the case. Thus, 'The Dweller Upon the Threshold,' your HS.

[phildee3]

phildee3, you are quite awesome! Calm, practical, reserved, un-afraid, brilliant.



ooooo... that feels good!

Right a bit.
Down a bit.
Right there!!

mmmmmm... Oh, yeh!!

[lyghtkynge]

ooooo... that feels good!

Right a bit.
Down a bit.
Right there!!

mmmmmm... Oh, yeh!!

. ...**chuckle**
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[phildee3]

. ...**chuckle**
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G4

[vladmir]

One of my favorite videos on youtube, enjoy!!

The Sun (The Natural Medicine) pt 5 of 5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVuTpdW2aWc
The Sun (The Natural Medicine) pt 5 of 5 - YouTube

[vladmir]

Another fantastic series of videos. :)

Survival 2012: Living on Sunlight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDC6g3ZsThs
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Survival 2012: Living on Sunlight. part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nli2zlImrm4
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Survival 2012: Living on Sunlight. part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xoRDVFp5Oc
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[barbitone]

The screen showed us in flight over a desert.

"Yes, we are picking up fuel. Watch as the ship fuels up."

I saw the beam of light extend itself into the desert sands and make an impact. As it hit the sand it made an impact that caused the light beam to intensify. The sand was being converted to golden particles that were being transported into the ship.
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"The light that was able to reconfigure your dreaming body also has the ability of converting the inorganic substance of sand into a highly unstable organic substance that can be used as fuel to amplify the intent of those who operate this ship. They are the UaRians that you have come to know in your earlier excursions into the Civilization Beyond Time. They are silicon lifeforms. As you evolve you will eventually pass through a phase where you will transmute the carbon basis of your biology into silicon and be able to navigate in hyperspace. Now let me show you the place where the ship is piloted."

Even though the ship seemed extremely small from the outside, it was extremely large inside containing many levels and chambers. I just followed Master Q as he seemed to know where he was going and I had no clue.
....

"First look at the seats. They are unusual in their construction as they are important in their operation."

I was surprised by what I had found. I looked at Janyl's seat. There was a strange phallic protrusion. Upon my seat there was a hole. I felt the tecture of both seats and they strangely had a most sensuous feeling as if they were made of real flesh. I looked at Master Q and confided to him that this reminded me of some strange sexual apparatus.

"It is strange, but its intent is slightly different. The UaRians live within a non-ordinary sphere. You must make an adjustment here and it will not be easy. Your training in Sorcery has been to utilize ordinary things in a non-ordinary way. This is one example of how you are asked to adjust to an alien civilizations orientation."

I watched as Janyl sat down on the strange phallic protrusion. She seemed to go into sexual ecstasy. As she did she immediately shifted into the energy body. She sent out impulses to me to join her. Master Q instructed me upon the use of the seat.

"Yes, you must insert your penis inside the orifice. The only other instructions that I need tell is not to ejaculate. If you do you will not have enough energy to get anywhere."

I sat down upon the seat fitting my penis into the orifice contained there beneath me. As soon as I did I felt strange sensations flow through of a sexual nature. I was on the verge of orgasm and ejaculation when the crystal skull instructed me to raise and maintain the sensation by my intent. As I focused upon doing that I shifted into the energy body. My assemblage point became apparent as I utilized the energy that I felt between my hands to maintain the focus of energy. I felt the timeship move and take off as I focused my intent to raise and maintain the energy and awareness of the assemblage point.


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[lyghtkynge]

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. . . . . . . . . . . "Pretty Soon, I'll Be Ethereal!...."

[vladmir]

The Return of the Serpents of Wisdom (Paperback)by Mark Amaru Pinkham
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[vladmir]

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[lyghtkynge]

http://www.oroborosfilm.com/Oroboros_logo.jpg
Interesting Logo......
The Twin Principles, that of Reincarnation, and Eternal Progression. Between the Two states, is The Final Test. No free rides in this Universe...actually, there sorta are! But you must pay at the end of the ride! They call this 'coat-tailing.'

Everybody on this planet who has not attained Immortality, are Being Sustained by the Four Principles of The Serpent-Sun...They are Upholding the 'people' in their Garden Womb. (Does that sound far-fetched? Such is Truth!--fiction is a piece of candy compared to it.)

. . . . One RING To Rule Them All...
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The Dual Triangles of the Hexagram are the Dual Forces of Creation, the YONI & Phallus. Unfortunately, this is misunderstood by the mass-mind of mankind, even though I have displayed the Truth of It in an earlier 'Dark Masters of Reincarnation & Awareness' post [see if you can find it!]: Here's the the Clue" O/□.

Everything is Generated (Initiate/Initiated) or ReGenerated (Denouement) by the HOT & COLD Poles/Wombs of Creation, called Duality/POLARITY/[ONE], or Two Sources of Polarization...when they Unite, either of the Womb Forces Unionize, that for Generation, or ReGeneration. Humanity can Cohabit like a Rabbit, but only the [very] Few can Union the Dual Forces Into One Being-Presence State, the Third State of Attention (not a fantasy, but where fantasies derive).

Join the Ring Consciously, lest you taste dust. Fucking does not count: that's why 'the Bird' means 'death to you.'

. . . . . . . . . . . .HERE ARE YOUR TWO MASTERS
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Both Kill via Polarization::Unioned Consciously, ReGeneration Occurs, rather than Generation.

Humanity Does Not Know (because they've been 'consciously controlled) that they Live With Two Source Masters...they believe with all their box-belief-powers that only the one master Rules them...This is why they are called 'Sleepers.' The Sun is Visible, yet The Dragon is Invisible as Power & Principle.
. . . . . . . . . . .I-Mage of The Fourth Force
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Four Forces.
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A message brought to you courtesy of SS.

[vladmir]

Humanity Does Not Know (because they've been 'consciously controlled) that they Live With Two Source Masters...they believe with all their box-belief-powers that only the one master Rules them...This is why they are called 'Sleepers.' The Sun is Visible, yet The Dragon is Invisible as Power & Principle.
I suspect,that both are seemingly separate, yet actually One in a way thats incomprehensible with the mind....
But, what do i know about it really?....

http://2012thetruth.com/BOOKS/2012%20The%20Return%20of%20Quetzalcoatl.jpg
http://sharingmatrix.com/file/379102/2012_The_Return_Of_Quetzalcoatl.pdf

[lyghtkynge]

I suspect,that both are seemingly separate, yet actually One in a way thats incomprehensible with the mind....
But, what do i know about it really?....

http://2012thetruth.com/BOOKS/2012%20The%20Return%20of%20Quetzalcoatl.jpg
http://sharingmatrix.com/file/379102/2012_The_Return_Of_Quetzalcoatl.pdf
"The Vulture [EAGLE-lk] freezes the world into its microscopic components of entanglement while the Dragon [SERPENT-lk] melts the world into its macroscopic components of the movement of energy. It is the meeting of the Naugal and the Tonal, Beingness and Placeness .

"The physical body is a product of such a union. It is part place and part being, part Tonal and part Naugal. The Dragon moves in to unify while the Vulture fragments and freezes to maintain the status quo. Imagine the force that would hold the destruction of the universe to its breast and you will be able to imagine a war that forms the Universes upon Universes that is caught up in that interplay of opposites. They are so caught up in that war that it is hard to discern the two distinct beasts. They eat each other up so that their perception is not so distinct. ("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)
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2.5 minutes of Elucidation: ( info obtained from very High mystical states)
Model of the Universe as seen by Itzhak Bentov - YouTube

Now, It is a State of Perception, Ultimately. When you no longer see a shadow ever; when you can no long perceive the Sun or the Moon or the Earth, because they are One, then come back and we can discuss the Sequential Progression of Conscious-Awareness through the Four Stages. These can be perceived even within the aethyr-astral. Until then, it is best perhaps to commit it to 'Inexplicable.' Like the rest of humanity...6.76 billions of misapprehension.

1 - Matter [CRUST ENERGY]
2 - Astral .[E MOTION ENERGY]
3 - Mind ...[AB ENERGY]
4- -Spirit .[PURE ENERGY]

Vertical = Staff of Life - 3-In-One (Never Seperate)
horizontal = Duality (Seperated)
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Unified Awareness is Influx-Flow, DownWard (MOTHER-FATHER Substance-Energy)
Dualed Perception is LifeForce-Flow, Upward (Daughter-So Dual Forces)

They Split In Motion, and Reflect Each Other at 90°.

There are Two [DOUBLE] Dual-Force Flows that are employed in manifesting the Uncreate into the Create.

Awareness of Spirit Implodes Duality - Vertical. STICKY
Perception of Matter Explodes Spirit - horizontal. UZ

Look at it until it sinks in. What is Sticky? What is Uz? Ooohhh. Yet these are Duality: Feminine - Masculine.

REAL & Reflected UnReal.

FOUR Forces.

Quintessence (Balanced Four Forces).
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Each are permitted to dwell in their accepted/chosen states of Ignorance (& Innocence): This Is What Enables Creation To [B]Be. Learning Truth, Shuts It Off, and 6.7 billions instinctively know this. Please do not wake up...just care for us in the Corpse state.

OK, fine.

[purple rain]

You know LK, if you would tone it down a little more to everyday speak this stuff would be easier to take in, or even read. It's not as if I can find a definition of the four principles of the serpent-sun in google.


The Final Test.

Could you elaborate?

the Four Principles of The Serpent-Sun

I did go through the Dark Masters thread, atleast a couple of pages in and I think it did my head in.

How does a hexagram represent the forces of creation, exactly what are these forces? And why does a penis and vagina keep popping up? I understand the notion of kundalini energy, but what's all this significance given to private parts?

Ultimately. When you no longer see a shadow ever; when you can no long perceive the Sun or the Moon or the Earth, because they are One

?


Unified Awareness is Influx-Flow, DownWard (MOTHER-FATHER Substance-Energy)
Dualed Perception is LifeForce-Flow, Upward (Daughter-So Dual Forces)

They Split In Motion, and Reflect Each Other at 90°.

I have a vague idea of what duality means, although a duality of what I'm not sure of. What reflects at 90%? :confused: If there is an English explanation. :rolleyes:

[purple rain]

Yes, I AM.

This is a Secret...the Ancient Elders are Awaiting at the Door...They drop more than they Lift Up.

The creator I suppose?

but you also did not click & read Raphael's thread on the swatistica. The nazi were not stupid, and have prejudiced many otherwise intelligent minds against Ancient Truth. Emphasis on 'Truth.'


I know about the use of the swastika in the past, I had just never heard of the black sun. I didn't like what I found about S.Devi and other associated people.

The Melchizedeks Power-Presence! They are the Enemy, the Ultra-Universal Invader Reptilian Aliens, and apparently only a few of us know this. Even yogi's-guru's-ascendant's don't suspect, for they are in Love (Bliss-Idiocy).
http://images-0.redbubble.net/img/art/size:large/view:main/1633122-2-fire-within.jpg

Do you say that any spiritual looking figure that welcomes you upon death is a 5th dimensional being waiting to 'suck on your soul'? What happens if you don't go along with it? How do you prevent that?


[A personal comment to you:] You yourself said, 'everybody has to start somewhere.' Well, there are many who desire to show you how to skate...it can be slippery and difficult at first, and you'll fall alot. Either get up, or they will be willing to help you up. Pretty soon, you'll be skating good. And then...you'll get your own skates! And who knows, you may be better than your teachers. And it is Required of each to Share as they may.
http://solarblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/09/20/genie_skater_with_lamp_sun_and_smok.jpg
"YOU Are The Help From On High."


That's nice to hear.

[lyghtkynge]

The creator I suppose?

I'm sorry I used the terms penis & vagina so many times; I apologize.

Duality of the feminine & masculine use them for generation; the Spirit also has Organs of ReGeneration, not yet developed in the mass of humanity. I apologize for saying the following, also, or alluding to it: Yoni & Phallus. I'm truly sorry about this. The Spirit should keep these things to ItSelf...oh, It does!

This thread, like 'Dark Masters,' is not for you (imo). There are other threads that may be more slanted toward your interest, and much easier to understand for the average joe/jane: Here are a couple goodies:

The Mythical Phoenix ...can you help? (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57554)

Venus = Lucifer = Pentagram - MUST SEE (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93342)

Here's a pic from the last thread link:
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. . . . .At least they have the decency to cover their Privates!

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Take Care.

[purple rain]

I didn't mean it in a prudish way, I was just trying to understand the meaning. So generation is about kundalini then?

I had browsed the venus thread, but not too carefully so I'll take a look at those two again.

[phildee3]

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/1897/flyagaric001aa.jpg
. . . . .At least they have the decency to cover their Privates!


Decency?? :eek:
That's digusting!!
Why must we hide our willies and pussies?
Isn't this more natural -
and healthy??
http://www.lifelounge.com/resources/IMGDETAIL/Fertility_detail_image.jpg

[lyghtkynge]

Decency?? :eek:
That's digusting!!
Why must we hide our willies and pussies?
Isn't this more natural -
and healthy??
http://www.lifelounge.com/resources/IMGDETAIL/Fertility_detail_image.jpg

You are so right! If you google xtian and the word 'hypocrite,' you'll notice it brings up the statement that nearlly all xtians are hypocrites (unproven, of course, especially to the hypocrite...er, I mean xtians).

You'll also find that most of the world, including the 'proper' Brits, consider americans 'Prudes.' Well, this is very, very true...and you wonder why? ("Do you want to know More?")

Because of the Intense Truth that resides within the sex potential...the PTB know that should the Truth of Cosmic Sex accidentally gain a foothold in the land of the rich & mighty (did I mention 'free?'), all Hell would break loose, hard & fast (excuse the nomenclature!).

Yes, that's right...there's a 'safe secret' involved with it, not even revealed in Tantra...kept from the mind of the herd altogether. As long as 'nobody' knows (the masses, or herd), everything will be fine. A good cover for this is the only cover: Prudery, even if it takes a little ribbing as 'hypocritical.'

All throughout the mystical literature, a very fantastic secret has been kept from the 'inquiring mind' of the apprentice/initiate, student of the mysteries.

This will not change any sooner than the NWO will change it's ways just because 'they should.'

And I cannot even say those two dirty words (penis & vagina), without misapprehension...funny, the girls can do so...and please, do not ask me to quote from those threads, for they always kill the messenger.

It's a Power failsafe. Go play bedroom games, teach a few whacky classes, do some tantra, but don't make us 'mad.' Too late (about the 'mad' part of the Rulers & Their Elites).

So you see, there is a good reason for all of this. You can breed, but never reveal the Un-Revealable. Anybody catch that, how similar it sounds to some thing else? (perhaps, the 'Unmentionable Name?')
Is it getting warm in here, or is it just me?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:MQrs304I9NhmBM:http://www.schreiblogade.de/wp-content/images/jillgreenberg01.jpg. . . . . . . . . . .Prudes & hypcrites...teach the children well. . . . . . . .....http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:tlw2T2F39pcW8M:http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2006/07/11/greenbergpic_narrowweb__300x360,0.jpg
http://www.astrohelpcentre.com/admin/cms_images/1252411931_CosmicAum.jpg

[purple rain]

LK, I was only asking about its significance. I know about awakening the serpent through kundalini but I didn't understand what yoni and phallus had to do within a duality context. I'm no Christian prude either, hardly. Did you see my Amy Goodman thread? ;)


What did you mean back there by fucking doesn't count? So it's not about kundalini?

[lyghtkynge]

LK, I was only asking about its significance. I know about awakening the serpent through kundalini but I didn't understand what yoni and phallus had to do within a duality context. I'm no Christian prude either, hardly. Did you see my Amy Goodman thread? ;)

I was addressing phildee3's comment, not calling you a prude. Most people are prudes or deviants, and this is a matter of opinion (imo). Most live in this world under the precepts of Illusion, even those who consider themselves 'detatched' from such limitation.

And am I the only person on this forum who knows what the Sign of the Beast truly is? the Mark? The Hexagram, not the pentagram. They are the Yoni & Phallus...it is a shame I have to explain this: whatever happened to people's 'keen sense for the obvious?'
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/Lucifer.jpg

All of Creation is the Sexual Interaction, and the Symbols thereof: at All Levels (All). Just make certain not to attend any 'sex education' class I give! It would tear the Mind Open...(gee, that's funny! Insider joke again, sorry!).

The OP revealed something so deep it's ridiculous, and all the little people go, 'doot, da-doot, da-doot,' and go back to sleep. Even the pseudo-science types, and I do mean, pseudo.

Everything is a Yoni & Phallus, in that Order...and extensions thereof. Even Freud knew this deep down, but could not come to grips with it, though he was obsessed by it. And No, they are not 'SET' into any given positions or symbolic levels, for these Interchange at SupraLight speeds. I better shut up, the more I talk, the less I am grasped (heheh).
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[1977]

Christianity seems to have been originally designed to teach these things to the lower classes, before the Church found it more profitable to have them worship the image of a dead man.
Hence it appears that the soul is not naturally immortal; but is made immortal by the grace of God, through faith and righteousness, and by knowledge. . . .

"Verily foreknown before the foundation of the world." Inasmuch as He was foreknown before every creature, because He was Christ. "But manifested in the last times" by the generation of a body. "Being born again, not of corruptible seed." The soul, then, which is produced along with the body is corruptible, as some think. (Clement of Alexandria, Fragments (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0211.htm))
For the sun never could show me the true God; but that healthful Word, that is the Sun of the soul, by whom alone, when He arises in the depths of the soul, the eye of the soul itself is irradiated. (Exhortation to the Heathen (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/020806.htm))

[phildee3]

You are so right! If you google xtian and the word 'hypocrite,' you'll notice it brings up the statement that nearlly all xtians are hypocrites



I would agree that most church-goers are hypocrites.
Hypocrites for calling themselves Christians when they don't practice what they preach.

But if they don't practice the Christianity that they preach, how can you call them "Christians"?

[lyghtkynge]

For the sun never could show me the true God; but that healthful Word, that is the Sun of the soul, by whom alone, when He arises in the depths of the soul, the eye of the soul itself is irradiated. (Exhortation to the Heathen (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/020806.htm))

Thank you for that, 1977. Very beautiful post. I couldn't have said it so well. This is a Truth that all should learn to bear in their hearts-minds-&-soul-Spirit, that the Soul can become Consciously Immortalized, for such is the result shown by this message, and in the Experience. Of many terms, it is also known as the Borning of the Inner Sun, before which, is presaged the One Eye of All. It is the Gift of Grace.[One Eye does not mean 3rd-or-single eye of common awareness.]

The Resurrection is the 4th Principle, Achieved from the Union of the Daughter-Son, most often referred to as 'son' (making the Two, One). Quintessence Accrues from this Gift of Balanced Union between the Daughter-Son~Mother-Father (the crossed-cross), the Borning the the Immortal New Self, All that is Incorruptible. This takes place in the Sacred Head Center, not the heart.

Life-Death-Resurrection-ReBirth Within the New Kingdom, that of the Inner Realm Made New (brought into being by the very process, so difficult to grasp: you can never go home again...'eden' is dead for you...now, you must ReMake 'eden' from 'the Spirit Within'.) The Ancient Elders are the Guardians of The Truth.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/golden_serpent.jpg. http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/coin.gif(Transmuted Gold)
"...the Spiritual Self of man, which is not incarnated, but overshadows, so to say, the reincarnating Psychic Self, and passes judgement upon it after each of its lives on earth. Thus man is only imperfectly incarnated: the perfect incarnation can take place only when s/he has become one with his Spiritual Self, and thereafter he need incarnate no more. Now, the Free father can not reach or influence the incarnated man save through the subtle psychic energies, and these are latent until the man has purified his lower nature. Kadmos personifies the individual who has performed the first work in spiritual regeneration, and his daughters represent these psychic forces, Semele being the daughter favored by Zeus and giving birth to the Sun God. The name Semele is akin to Gaia, and signifies the primordial Earth, the AEther, and not the element earth which is its final differentiation. In Zeus, the Life-God, are synthesized the five 'life-breaths,' the highest of which, his 'full glory,' in which he appears to Semele, is 'the Breath that goes upward to immortality.' The latter, in conjunction with the element AEther, becomes the mystic 'ray' of psychic light which illumines the brain during a certain state of spiritual exaltation..."
("Adorers of Dionysos," James Pryse, 1925)
http://metagallery.com/_img/artworks/138.jpg

[lyghtkynge]

I would agree that most church-goers are hypocrites.
Hypocrites for calling themselves Christians when they don't practice what they preach.

But if they don't practice the Christianity that they preach, how can you call them "Christians"?
Well, a moot point. They attend their churches in droves, and are quite proud of it, dressing up in their finest, and speaking of the glories of their 'goodly church.' I deal with these people most regularly, and should I ever say anything askance, I assure you, I'd be ousted from the presence of these prayer warriors, one and all. And I do not cotton to the word, myself; I relate to Christos as Half the Principle of ReGeneration, but only as a symbol.

Study some history (I know you have); you'll see they killed everything that stood in the way of their 'chosen' worship. When it falls, as well as others, they will need to sleep for a long time. No more savior coming to save them. Yes, we know how it was all orchestrated, but that is beyond the scope of this thread!
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Comment on xtianity:
"And not a few are earnestly seeking true light, now that the Stygian gloom that for twenty centuries has rested like a fog over the earth is beginning to lift." (James Pryse, speaking about the pall of xtian dominancy & thralldom in 1925. He had high hopes, for he was an inner circle member of Theosophy. That didn't go well!)

[1977]

Saint (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clement_of_alexandria#His_significance_for_the_Chu rch) Clement clearly understood the true Gnosis of Christianity, and refers repeatedly to "regeneration":

The Word of truth, the Word of incorruption, that regenerates man by bringing him back to the truth—the goad that urges to salvation—He who expels destruction and pursues death—He who builds up the temple of God in men, that He may cause God to take up His abode in men. (Exhortation to the Heathen (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/020811.htm), Chapter 11)

Straightway, on our regeneration, we attained that perfection after which we aspired. For we were illuminated, which is to know God. (The Paedagogus (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02091.htm), Book I)

But we also get the first real indications that the Church did not wish to truly divulge its doctrines to the multitude:
And even now I fear, as it is said, “to cast the pearls before swine, lest they tread them under foot, and turn and rend us.” For it is difficult to exhibit the really pure and transparent words respecting the true light, to swinish and untrained hearers. (Stromata (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/02101.htm), Book I)

[vladmir]

http://nirmanarathiya.wordpress.com/2008/10/02/the-fire-yogi-of-tanjore/
http://nirmanarathiya.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/fire-swami-003.jpg

The Fire Yogi is a 47 minute documentary exploring a Yogi who has the extraordinary ability to use a unique breathing technique to get into union with Fire. This documentary portrays a rare and unusual Fire Ritual performed by the Yogi and the subsequent chemical analysis of his clothing & physical tests that examine this supernatural phenomenon. The Yogi has performed this Fire Ritual for a total of 1000 days over the last 45 years. The Yogi, weighing a mere 94 pounds (43 kilos), has been able to survive on only two bananas and a mere glass of milk with a few drops of water twice a day for the last 28 years. Many aspects of the Yogi are on the edge of unbelievability, while at the same time highlighting the power and endurance of human mind, body and spirit.

Yogi Rambhauswami, the 63-year-old yogi, claims that in 1975 he stopped drinking more than a few drops of water each day, that two years later he began limiting his daily diet to a banana and a cup of milk, and that he sleeps only three hours each night. By all rights the Sanskrit scholar should be malnourished and dehydrated, but in director and producer Mike Vasan’s documentary, he appears to be a relatively normal, if somewhat slender, senior citizen. Rambhauswami’s real claim to fame, however, is his elaborate fire ritual.

The ritual begins with his taking a bath, then moving on to meditation, pranayama, and a ceremony honoring Ganesha. The fire portion of the ritual is conducted over a sunken pit, into which Rambhauswami offers rice, coconut, sugar cane, and gallons of ghee. As he’s doing this, he goes into a deep meditative state. He enters the blaze and rolls around, protected by only a wool shawl, and remains there, in the fire, for up to 10 minutes at a time.

When Rambhau emerges from the flames, though, there’s little evidence that he’s just been charbroiled. Even his shawl is intact, its preservation credited to a protective aura. The shawl was later tested for fire retardant, and results showed that the material hadn’t been treated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La5ZxpbE0s4
Amazing miracle- fire yogi 1of 5 - YouTube
Follow the link: ;)
http://buddhisttorrents.blogspot.com/2009/01/fire-yogi-story-of-extraordinary.html

[vladmir]

I posted this simply because im fascinated with fire.
What the yogi is doing is his business,
but rituals are not my thing, but hey, what do i know?! (hint: not much)

[purple rain]

Study some history (I know you have); you'll see they killed everything that stood in the way of their 'chosen' worship. When it falls, as well as others, they will need to sleep for a long time. No more savior coming to save them. Yes, we know how it was all orchestrated, but that is beyond the scope of this thread!

Aren't the illuminati more Luciferian, since they're the ones with the symbols, the child sacrifice and the NWO?

[lyghtkynge]

I have covered all this:

"The Vulture [EAGLE-lk] freezes the world into its microscopic components of entanglement while the Dragon [SERPENT-lk] melts the world into its macroscopic components of the movement of energy. It is the meeting of the Naugal and the Tonal, Beingness and Placeness [BEING-PRESENCE-lk].

"The physical body is a product of such a union. It is part place and part being, part Tonal and part Naugal. The Dragon moves in to unify while the Vulture fragments and freezes to maintain the status quo. Imagine the force that would hold the destruction of the universe to its breast and you will be able to imagine a war that forms the Universes upon Universes that is caught up in that interplay of opposites. They are so caught up in that war that it is hard to discern the two distinct beasts. They eat each other up so that their perception is not so distinct. ("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)
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Each Pole or Dual Source of the Extremes in Materiality* are Equal & Opposite (or there would be nothing & no one to discuss it). [*Atomicity; includes both the Invisible & Visible Aspects of 'matter,' one primordial AEthyr, the other 'Crust')

See the Beastial Heads In the First Yin-Yang? These are the Two Extremes of Creation...Either Alone Are Absolute Killers:

Do you Hate Mother Nature (Serpent) for Birthing Life then Taking Life (Consuming It)?

Do you Hate the Cosmos (Sun) for Supporting Life then Destroying It (Consuming It)?

Mankind, female & male, Are The Serpent-Sun In The Middle, the Daughters & Sons, and They are the Most Viscious Killers-Consumers of All Create. On this planet, they know nothing of Nurturing of Life, only of Death-Giving, for They are Death ItSelf. The Opposite Aspect, that of Health & Healing, is in its mere Infancy, whereas other cultures in the Great Universe (from personal Memory) are Nurturing, moreso then Death-dealing. Nevertheless, what I have said is So, and cannot be changed by Ignorance (nor Innocence). Ignorance & Innocence is The Condition of Material Existence, from which the Cosmic Flower Develops/Grows Up & Out Of. Got That everyone? (kill the messenger! yeah!).

Each are equal in their use of Symbols, for Symbols Are Made Flesh to Form the Create(d); each are guilty of equal child-sacrifice: anything else is illusion, mis-perception. Re-read the above quoted part in red, and ponder how mankind does not know this! It is the Invisble Truth, Hidden in the Bosom of Exsitence, the Ever-Present Cloud of Ignorance & Innocence, called Life/Existence.

When this Batch-Crop comes to Maturity, they will find that they have lived a life of ephemeral-ghostly 'seeming-existence,' most to disappear back into the Soul-Pool Cauldron; some will step Forth Upon the Path of Never-Sleep (Eternal Progression), and blow this Hell-Fire Hole (Atomicity). Fire is Both Hot & Cold: Both apsects dissolve to essence; one dissolves to increasement, called the Purified Essence of Golden-Silver: Both Spirals Are Ever-Present Forever-Always As One. Few understand that they cannot be seperated, for they are of Pre-Existence: One Wraps Up the Other In the Glorious Denouement, Hidden from the Knowledge of the Base, which must undergo these pressures.
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Throw Your Ring Into The Fire...(The Leap), For This Is The Command of S/He, which the Prime Creatoress-Creator Refuse. You will Lose Everything when you do, but mayhap Gain All and NOTHING.
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"It is easy to enter the Orion reincarnational cycle but virtually impossible to escape.
"The gateway of Arcturus prepares nonphysical consciousness for the intense focus of physicality and thus sexuality. From the Arcturan point of awareness, physicality and sexuality are the same expression."
("The Prism of Lyra," Lyssa Royal")
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/mc-1.jpg
. . . . (Sorry for the unsavory innuendo!)

[vladmir]

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/DDYY-0-BMP.jpg

Thats a very striking picture of the Yin-Yang symbol,
havent seen one like that before. Maybe thats how it really should be symbolized,
with those white dots in the centre of the black dot in the center of the white....and on and on forever!
Compared to this picture the common ones look incomplete, and its like something missing.
http://www.fengshuihelp.com/Images/yin_yang.gif


Here's another beautiful one.
http://mor.phe.us/writings/YINYANG.JPG

"The Yin-Yang symbol presents some of the most fundamental concepts in Daoist and Tantric logic, philosophy, and spirituality. The most prominent concept is polarization: the division and union of two halves. Each half can in turn be polarized, giving some insight into recursion and forming the base for synthesis. The Yin-Yang is not a symbol of dualism but a statement of transcendence into monism, a snapshot of change."

"Thus it is shown that everything has its counterpart; one half of anything is meaningless without the other. There is an active and passive element to every principle, as can be experienced with sight and sound. Seeing only pure light and hearing only constant sound serve us no better than being blind or deaf. It is the darkness from which we discern the light, the silence from which arise the sounds, that allow us to give those sensory experiences their shape and meaning."

"The two poles are seen as lovers, coexisting in harmony and depending on each other.
This contrasts greatly with the traditional views of righteous dualism that seeks to embrace all light and banish all darkness, setting the forces against each other and making a battle out of life. It is clear from an objective viewpoint that anything that is good for one is evil for another. This is why Daoists put themselves in accord with the cyclic nature of the world instead of seeking to linearly advance it.

There is a striking parallel of thought in Tantric philosophy. Swami Rama explains:

According to this ancient philosophy, the entire universe is a manifestation of pure consciousness. In manifesting the universe, this pure consciousness seems to become divided into two poles or aspects, neither of which can exist without the other. One aspect retains a static quality and remains identified with unmanifest consciousness. In Tantra this quality is called Shiva, and is conceptualized as masculine… The other part of this polarity is a dynamic, energetic, or creative aspect that is called Shakti, the great mother of the universe, for it is from her that all is born (Rama 27)."

"Male-female union at various levels is an important element in Tantric principles. In sexual union, the man and woman are seen as embodiments of Shiva and Shakti. Their union is at the cosmic level, not just the physical. It is the spiritual culmination of the deepest instinctual drive: the procreation of life.More emphasis is placed, however, on an internal union of male and female principles within oneself to achieve the sexually balanced state of the androgyne. Coming to terms with the male and the female within oneself, feeling the father and the mother, is what lies at the root of androgynous Tantric and Daoist idealism. Through androgyny, it is possible to return to the non-dualistic state that existed before "the fall" of paradise common to numerous religions."


"Alex Wayman describes the process of the return:

When the fire-nature is changed into a love nature, this brings the fire-tincture (proper to the male) back into the Paradise where there was the division into fire-tincture and light-tincture… In order to recombine the two tinctures, the power of the light must also eat of the water. This restores the ‘love desire’ of the original androgyne… (Wayman 620)."

"Such are the paths to Paradise: one through the fire-tincture of the male, and another through the light-tincture of the female. After reaching Paradise, the two tinctures must be combined to recreate the immortal embryonic androgyne."

"Upon exploring the apparent duality the Yin-Yang initially portrays, we find that it is recursive in nature and thus not absolute. Each separate half seems to be polarized into two aspects, as are those in turn. The key here is that each polarization, Yin and Yang, has in its heart the seed of the other. We can find no absolute purity in either. At the root of Yin’s existence is Yang; at the root of Yang’s is Yin. If the two poles are not absolute, neither can their seeds in each other be. This is how we can arrive at an introspective recursion: seeing the Yin within the Yang within the Yin, etc., and vice-versa."

http://mor.phe.us/writings/Yin-Yang.html

http://www.divinerevelation.org/paintingardhanarishvara.jpg

http://caravanofdreams.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/shiva-shakti.jpg

"Ardhanarisvara, Shiva and Shakti, cosmic androgyny, and wholeness in alchemy.

For one to arrive at the empty core from which all existence radiates, the alchemical union of a number of opposites existing within the individual is required. Without such unions there can be no circle, and therefore no hollow core.

Alchemy is the process by which a mortal becomes immortal, and is a very specific journey for each individual.

The goal of alchemy is individuation- the immortalization of the soul. To individuate, which is to become whole, requires the union of male and female, good and evil, spirit and soul, consciousness and matter, subject and object, self and other, and inside and out.

To become immortal is to turn the gross lead of mortality into the subtle gold of eternity.

To unify the male and female within requires a man to become conscious of his inner female, his anima, and a woman to become conscious of her inner male, her animus.

Such integration takes determination, patience, and the willingness to transform.
The outcome of this union within the individual is the sacred androgyne, which is the divine, incarnate soul, awake as an androgynous self within the androgynous universe.
This comes about through the inner chymical wedding, which represents one of the final stages of alchemy."
http://www.spiritandflesh.com/OMArdhanarisvaraShivaShaktindrogynywholenessalchem yChristianReligion.htm

[lyghtkynge]

The Mysteries are hidden from the profane. However, lost knowledge must ever be recovered. Here is a little bit that reveals some of the past knowledge of the earlier peoples (many still here today). The Great Mystery can never be Known by any save it is Earned (Grace).
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Cutting to the quick, because I know its hard to think, and much harder to grasp secrets of the Deep & High, I wish to present this as something to contemplate. You shall each find your own Teachers, or not. Until then, here's a forgotten msytery, everywhere revealed today in the Symbols of Mythic memory. Please curb your dogma-controlled 'system of analysis,' and simply 'observe.' You can do the work of validation later, or not.

"The children of the light are the 'awakened ones'...who have discovered the secret of their creation, and opened the gate O or mouth of the serpent Yaldabaoth, the Milky Way, and passed through to the other side."
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"In the second century AD, the Gnostics picked up on Plato's idea and described the sphere of Earth being surrounded by a 12-angled pyramid. These 12 angles are described as 'eyes,' 'pipes,' and even more fascinating to our story, as 'holes' in the Earth. It is probable they were also influenced by the Egyptians, who said a Serpent called Chnoubis or Kanobis ('wisdom') guarded these holes."
("Oracle of the Illuminati,' William Henry)
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Where's the Atlanteans for cripe's sake? Part II.

[lyghtkynge]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:0nK5KKE_YVWqMM:http://www.suntopaz.com/CaroleChapmanheadshot.jpg http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:hiKLd-ojQXanAM:http://www.carolechapman.com/GoldenOnescoverthumbnailweb120.jpg
Carole Chapman was getting fat, fast. She decided see a hypnotist, after all else failing to lose the weight. Now, we need to explain a bit here: she was an Orthodox Christian believer in 'jesus is my savior' (yup, I made it through the book without puking once!). A dweller in the Darkness of Ignorance. All she wanted was to lose the puffy weight she was putting on. That happened (eventually)...and so did something else.

Her lady hypnotist use past-life regression to hopefully find the root cause of her rapid weight gain. Instead, she discover some highly unlikley past-life experiences, which changed her. This is not an 'astounding story;' this is a hidden msytery, which is still alive today, and forever....forgotten or not.

Snake Transport (From a hypnosis regression transcript.)
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"I heard myself moaning. I was a young woman dressed in clothes similar to an East Indian sari. With me was my son, a dark-haired little boy. We huddled on the steps of a temple, looking out over the desolation surrounding us. There had been large-scale destruction of our world. This must have been one of the first upheavals of Atlantis, because there was still land left.

"As I experienced this scene, I was surprised to discover that at the same time I expected to die, I found myself flying through space....I also wondered, since I had learned that we rejuvenated instead of dying, how I could be so many different people at once--the wanton Atlantean scientist who formulated the crystal technology, the pixie-faced frog-like being that controlled the Crystal, a mother looking over the desolation of earth upheavals and a being flying through space.

"It appeared that I was some kind of oversoul that inhabited different bodies at the same time...It was as if we had programmed ahead of time that when the break-up occurred, the oversouls would leave for safety lands. The moaning of the woman was a signal to me that it was time to seperate myself from her and the other bodies I worked with in Atlantis, and depart.

"I said that it was better than rockets nowadays because it was an individual sytem. To understand the phenomenon of instant transportantion, it was important to remember that we weren't the kind of people we are today.

"It's the sense of using that energy that enables the semi-solid type of body to be encapsulated and transported very quickly. It's soemthing that we fashioned in the earth.

"I looked down at a tunnel or hole in the earth that looked like the mouth of a snake. It even had two fangs in the upper jaw. To be instantly transported to the safety lands in Egypt, it appeared that I had to let myself fall into the snake's mouth.
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"...I remembered falling into the snake's mouth, a sense of darkness and then being catapulted up from the breaking Atlantis into space...Our journey was almost instantaneous. Falling into the snake's mouth appeared to be a usual mode of transportation for Atlanteans.

"I explained how we knew where to land when we were jettisoned. 'We don't coordinate by latitude and longitude. We coordinate through . . almost like a thought address with the earth. The earth thinks with us! We're friendlier with the earth.'

"The snake was also an earthly being. It had the valuable ability to throw its body when it made a strike. This ability to strike was used for propulsion, to catapult the Atlanteans to their thought-address destinations."
("The Golden Ones," Carol Chapman) carolechapman (http://www.carolechapman.com/)
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. . . . . . . .. . Hidden within this story is the
. . . . .. . .Transmutative/Transformational Truth, 3.5.
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"These Gnostic portrayals make it clear that the way to achieved
Grace is to transform oneself into an Axis of Love and Lift or
. . . . . . .Comprehend the Secrets of the Serpent."
. . . . . ("Cloak of the Illuminati," William Henry)
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[sygyt]

The screen showed us in flight over a desert.

"Yes, we are picking up fuel. Watch as the ship fuels up."

I saw the beam of light extend itself into the desert sands and make an impact. As it hit the sand it made an impact that caused the light beam to intensify. The sand was being converted to golden particles that were being transported into the ship.
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"The light that was able to reconfigure your dreaming body also has the ability of converting the inorganic substance of sand into a highly unstable organic substance that can be used as fuel to amplify the intent of those who operate this ship. They are the UaRians that you have come to know in your earlier excursions into the Civilization Beyond Time. They are silicon lifeforms. As you evolve you will eventually pass through a phase where you will transmute the carbon basis of your biology into silicon and be able to navigate in hyperspace. Now let me show you the place where the ship is piloted."

Even though the ship seemed extremely small from the outside, it was extremely large inside containing many levels and chambers. I just followed Master Q as he seemed to know where he was going and I had no clue.
....

"First look at the seats. They are unusual in their construction as they are important in their operation."

I was surprised by what I had found. I looked at Janyl's seat. There was a strange phallic protrusion. Upon my seat there was a hole. I felt the tecture of both seats and they strangely had a most sensuous feeling as if they were made of real flesh. I looked at Master Q and confided to him that this reminded me of some strange sexual apparatus.

"It is strange, but its intent is slightly different. The UaRians live within a non-ordinary sphere. You must make an adjustment here and it will not be easy. Your training in Sorcery has been to utilize ordinary things in a non-ordinary way. This is one example of how you are asked to adjust to an alien civilizations orientation."

I watched as Janyl sat down on the strange phallic protrusion. She seemed to go into sexual ecstasy. As she did she immediately shifted into the energy body. She sent out impulses to me to join her. Master Q instructed me upon the use of the seat.

"Yes, you must insert your penis inside the orifice. The only other instructions that I need tell is not to ejaculate. If you do you will not have enough energy to get anywhere."

I sat down upon the seat fitting my penis into the orifice contained there beneath me. As soon as I did I felt strange sensations flow through of a sexual nature. I was on the verge of orgasm and ejaculation when the crystal skull instructed me to raise and maintain the sensation by my intent. As I focused upon doing that I shifted into the energy body. My assemblage point became apparent as I utilized the energy that I felt between my hands to maintain the focus of energy. I felt the timeship move and take off as I focused my intent to raise and maintain the energy and awareness of the assemblage point.

The feeling of my assemblage point became clearer and more functionally appropriate to move the vehicle as I related to the crystal skull. It seemed to be a functional intermediary in that process. I watched as it split into three skulls. One maintained the center position, overseeing and accentuating all that occurred, while the other two shifted towards the two of us. One of the two shifted towards me and connected with my thymus gland between my throat and heart areas. As it connected it amplified my energy body greatly. It orchestrated a beam of light from my energy body and the assemblage point to the central crystal skull. I was seeing as the timeship was able to produce vision as we traveled through hyperspace towards the ends of the limited physical universe. I knew where we were headed. I shared the intent with Janyl and the central crystal skull. We were heading towards the Source of Creation. I could feel our destination as I could feel the changes in my awareness, intent and energy as normal changes in steering.

We were passing through photon belts of pure energy. In that photon belt I felt the basic component of all matter and energy, all molecules, atomic and subatomic particles. It gave off a strange opalescent glow. It identified itself to me as an "idgo". The information was being translated through the crystal skull and the feeling of the ship.

I understood that the scientists of Earth lived in a sterile world of their own reflection of puny intent as did the cult leaders. The substance of energy they knew was merely a theoretical construct. As it was a theoretical construct they could find a place for all sorts of elementary particles of matter and energy that really did make a constructive difference. This particle that called itself an "idgo" was completely constructive and informative as a basic constituent of matter and energy that made sense. It had intelligence that I could confer with and experience in a very intimate way.

I began to understand it as the energy of pure orgasm. It was an explosive energy located at the center of all things created at the Source of Creation. It informed me that it was teh synthesis of the sentient components of the Freudian abstracts of the id and ego. In orgasm, the id and ego fused ionically to form an "idgo", basic substance of orgasm. That was why the timeship was run on sexual energy.

As we came closer to the Source of Creation I began to know the energy body as the original physical body. It was composed of energy and matter, flesh and Spirit, that could easily fuse together and form idgos easily. As we came even closer to the Source of Creation all distinction of the timeship, myself and Janyl grew faint. We all became a cyclone of pure orgasmic energy. We could focus our intent anywhere as the physical body we inhabited was composed of pure awareness, unbending intent and unending energy. It was in this form that we made our way toward the final leg of the trip towards the Source of Creation.
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/masterq/BEYONDGATE.html (http://www.angelfire.com/biz/masterq/BEYONDGATE.html)

Suggest reading the whole link (1 page). This has to do with the alignment of consciousness into non-ordinary states of Awareness, which is All-state potential for Being-Presence. While few comprehend the Validity of this excursion, it is Guided by Quetzalcoatl, the Feathered Serpent~4th SunGod...who is Guardian of The Time of Transition---NOW.

Most will be found unable to make the Necessary Energetic Configuration Adjustment to the Unlimited State of Awareness. This is to be expected of a Race that has been subverted by its Masters/Rulers/Gardeners. But ultimately, YOUniverse are to blame for remaining comfortable in your enclosed container box-belief systems. The Naga, a silverlight-radiating terrestrial alien [ancient elder], helped me step beyond the limited state via Spatial Inherency, which it appropriately first asked permission to incept. It arrived on a saucer ship, and I was fully conscious in my astral body, sitting up in my physical sleeping form; and lying close by, my work partner in his sleeping bag, fast asleep. We took off from there, and the Naga brought me to another planet of stupendous perfection; amoungst other places. It was with me for one week in 1984. A Shining One; they are Real (not a low-grade subverted lizard, but a Teacher of Mankind).

Don't remain limited--but also seek to know & engage the unlimited into your being...that doens't mean a few 'off the chart' ideas. It means Knowing, and Incorporating such Hidden Truths. Some of you can do it, and your time is...running short. You have a few to approx. 50 years to make the adjustment; then, it will be Made For You. Nevertheless, The Unknowable Reserves The Right To Surprise. Don't say you weren't told.
Escape Your Masters! There's A Light Up Above - Use It To Light Up Your Head. OM.
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"September 24, 2009 4:02 PM
navaho red said...
The sun is really symbolic of the Serpent Gods. the naga. The serpent is usually curved in a spiral form. It is said to be the source of supernatural energy. In chinese mythos the serpent was seen as coiling and revolving, the dancing and revolving sun. This later became solstice cermonies, left hand circuits, sunwise birds, english mistletoe dance, circulating dwelling houses, masonic spiral staircase, serpent spirals, magic tank, wand spiral and the the sun cults of palaeolithic times." Good company.

Thank you,this is one of the funniest sites on the net!

[lyghtkynge]

Thank you,this is one of the funniest sites on the net!

Your mommie use huggies or luvs?
Or you just relieve yourself in your fishbowl?

**koochie koochie koo goo goo blah blah**


Half-wit's last three posts:

1) "Thanks for all the laughs. "
2) "No,an athiest is someone who uses their brain."
3) "Hilarious."

eewhh, you better call mommie, you need another luvs.
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[lyghtkynge]

"Through the physical senses man can not obtain knowledge of anything that is above and beyond the gross material world; and his reasoning mind, no matter how highly developed, can not cognize spiritual realities. However, he has latent subtle senses pertaining to higher worlds; and the powers of his divine Mind are unlimited. In this perfective work, therefore, the physical senses and the reasoning mind are of no avail; instead, they present obstacles that must be overcome."
(James Prsye, 1925)
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[lyghtkynge]

"At humanity's level of development, a model for the natural evolution of a planet has not been formulated. It seems obvious that a civilization
would not be able to reach the cosmos and the folding of space/time dimensions if it cannot resolve its conflicts on a planetary level. The expansion of consciousness required for such a leap may be dependent upon the unified whole. If the whole is not integrated and balanced, attempts may be fruitless. Humanity may be experiencing this limitation now...Earth may just not be ready. Humanity wants to reach for the stars but very often cannot even reach for the hand of its neighbor.
. . ."What if the signal that they are there never goes out to society? What if humanity continues to ignore the evidence, hoping it will go away? To many of the extraterrestrials, this seems to be the case. All nonthreatening methods seem to have been unsuccessful thus far. The primary game plan over the last few decades appears to be much more profound in its potential to awaken humanity. Some of the Earth's visitors are now using fear....Fear awakens--rather rudely at that.
("The Prism of Lyra," Lyssa Royal)
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[lyghtkynge]

"We are not leaving you behind. How can that be? For we of all people truly know that we are One. And you can never fully seperate from part of yourself.

"We are choosing to journey beyond duality. We are moving into a Greater Central Sun System. This we must do, for we are Called to go. And as it was at the beginning when we obediently answered the Call for Volunteers upon this planet, now it is our time to travel onwards.

"It is important that you understand that we are not abandoning you. Rather, we are clearing the pathway of ascension for all of us, so that at the appropriate time of readiness, the pathway into the Invisible shall be made visible to everyone!

"After the passage of what may appear as aeons, a time will come when a new doorway will make itself visible to you. Whether or not this doorway is opened and passed through will depend entirely upon your efforts. It will require your full commitment, your focused intent and your Unified Presence to make it happen. At that tme, some of you will have distant memories of when the Doorway of the 11:11 opened and some of your starry Family ascended into the Greater Reality. This will be your time of greatness, fulfilling your Divine Mission by leading more of humanity homewards.

"Once again two wings of Oneness will sweep across your planet signifying that you are ready to ascend. We who have moved beyond, will ever be watching for this sign, encouraging you onwards, rejoicing at your completion, waiting to welcome you into the New Octave..."
("11:11," Solara Antara)

"This moment arrives right after you think that the task has been achieved, when you are least expecting it. It can be easily circumvented as long as one or two of you remains aware of the existence of a final testing. My memories include one of the times when we did not survive our final testing and our entire planet was annihilated just moments before we had opened our doorway. We gathered in purity and openness to create our double waves and instead the planet was destroyed...Remember: becoming free of duality is a major step for all of us, and especially for those who take on the task of responsibility of leadership.

"And for those who still carry within you the fear of the Unknown, perhaps that too, can dissolve away knowing that some of us have already successfully completed the journey. We shall joyously await you on the other side of the Door. While you are completing your evolution through duality, we will ever be with you, enfolding you in the Wings of our Love."
("11:11," Solara Anatara)
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[vladmir]

For serious researchers, some reference works in pdf.

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The Prism of Lyra: An Exploration of Human Galactic Heritage.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_lyssaroyal13.htm

Get it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20569653/The-Prism-of-Lyra-An-Exploration-of-Human-Galactic-Heritage-by-Lyssa-Royal-and-Keith-Priest

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Visitors from Within by Lyssa Royal
Get it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20569369/VISITORS-FROM-WITHIN-by-Lyssa-Royal-and-Keith-Priest

[vladmir]

continued...
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Bringers of the Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians. Barbara Marciniak.

http://rapidshare.com/files/7652434/Barbara_Marciniak-Bringers_of_the_Dawn.pdf

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Oracle of the Illuminati: Contact, Co-Creation, Coincidence

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15669935/Oracle-of-the-Illuminati

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Cloak of the Illuminati: Secrets, Transformations, Crossing the Stargate

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23741926/Cloak-of-the-Illuminati

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Stargate Secrets of Jesus and Mari Magdalene Blue Apples by William Henry

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17250894/Stargate-Secrets-of-Jesus-and-Mari-Magdalene-Blue-Apples-by-William-Henry

[lyghtkynge]

Now, let's start again. YOU Are a Universe.

"It is the atoms of your own physical body that serves as the formed substance of dreams, worlds, Solar Systems, Galaxies, Universes and Dimensions. The Will is the instrument that organizes atoms into gateways to experience such things."
("Scales of the Dragon," A.Dragon)

"As we perceive humans, they appear to us as swirling luminous egg-shaped fields of light and sound. The physical body can be 'seen' through these swirling fields of colored lights and appears to us as a shimmering galaxy of stars. Each atom is like a miniature star emitting a brilliant light, and the organs of your body are like star clusters. When your body is viewed through the swirling fields that surround you, you are quite beautiful."
("The Hathor Material," Tom Kenyon, 1996)
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The System is A Crown Flow, In Two Opposite Simultaneous Directions.

The easiest to access is the Upward Flow (LifeForce Flow, as it is seen from the material realm). but this is fraught with very real danger, for this is the Dissolutional Flow {It flows back upon itself and self-annihilates). This is the common effort of awakening of the energetic centers by mankind.

The hardest to access, and obviously illogical to reason, is the Influx Flow, the Downward Flow, which is the Flow of the REAL, and the Creational Patterning Flow, The CROWN (of Gold-&-Silver). It is The Driver's Seat. (Like, Players & Pieces, except to become the Player, you Have to Know & Be, Universal Law.)

THE SECRET OF LIGHT" ~ THE SHAPE OF THE UNIVERSE
"This ageless universe has no shape. It has a seeming infinite extension, but that extension is a reflected one. This electric universe of two-way extended light is but a series of mirrors which reflect into each other through curved lenses. Its seeming extension might be likened to light within a mirror-bound room."

"One light within such a mirrored enclosure would seemingly extend infinitely, but the light thus mirrored would be the same light. The reflected extension would have no reality."

"The idea of continuity or discontinuity is based upon mirrored effect of an Initial Cause. Continuity infers time. Time is but one of the effects which constitutes this universe. Time flows two ways, but the senses detect only the forward flow. They cannot detect the backward flow which cancels out the forward flow. Time is as unreal as the wave universe is unreal."
("The Secret of Light," by Walter Russell, 1947)

The Crown is Energy perceived as the LifeForce Flow (Daughter-Son), from the Lower Center called Hot Sex/Serpent Fire/Kundalini...it is a Joyous Unfoldment & Expansion and Recognition of Itself, the veritable Beautiful feast of ItSelf.

However, it is Upside-Down~Reversed Energy EXpression. Reflected.

The Other Directional Flow of Energy is Right-Side Up~Forward Energy, the REAL. Original Image.

"Why did the Chicken want to Cross to The Other Side?"

So that it could Lay the Egg [Universe] of Itself and Be Born [Birthed Into Self-EXpression].
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"There are certain ideas in ufology that are commonly avoided by most researchers. These neglected areas have to do with the contactees themselves. It is ironic that ufology spends so much brain power on analyzing photos, arguing over data, and writing reports. Meanwhile, the one person truly touched by the encounter (the observer) is either ignored, discredited, or subjected to intense scrutiny. This observer, unbeknownst to the ufologist, may embody some of the most astounding discoveries in human consciousness ever made! It is these observers/contactees who are forever changed. It is these contactees who, by their singular footprints into the jungle of the unknown, may be forging a path that humanity may someday be required to follow."
("Preparing For Contact," by Lyssa Royal, Preface, pg. XV)
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[lyghtkynge]

The Hyperdimensional spirits - no matter what their color or nationality across the planet and throughout time - have repeatedly been accused of the supreme crime of negating the supremacy of "God", that is, Jehovah-Satan the Demiurge's figure, the Lord of Entropy.

Man is currently a miserable creature, immersed in a Hell of Illusion that he foolishly feels content to be in, under a spell that he has no possibility of breaking by himself. The symbol of the Grail is the call to awaken, to rebel against the slavery of Entropy.

Indeed, the Lords of Entropy declare that anything which is capable of assisting man in opening his eyes and awakening to his lost divinity is the most abominable thing in the whole of creation.

But that "thing", that "abominable object" is not of this world, and man's captive Spirit has "eaten" of it. It is the rejected cornerstone:

Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious... the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, and a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people...

This "green fruit" later to be called "Grail" is the food that nourishes with the primordial gnosis, that is, with the knowledge about the Truth of the origin. Through the Grail, the forbidden fruit par excellence, man can know that he is eternal, that he is a Divine Spirit chained to matter, coming to the earthly Hades from a world impossible to imagine for which he feels nostalgia and a soul deep longing to return.

By the Grail we can remember!

But once a person begins to see, to remember, this becomes their foremost crime. Remembering the Divine Origin has been made a terrible sin and those who have committed it certainly have to pay for it: such is the will of the Demiurge, Jehovah-Satan's Law.

The Ministers of Entropy, whom the Tradition calls the Demons of Chang Shamballah, are said to be commissioned with the task of exacting retribution in the currency of pain and suffering against all those who seek to awaken.

The means of exacting this payment are many and varied, but it is always masked with the cynical declaration that pain and suffering are for the Spirits' "own good", to "facilitate evolution".

Furthermore, it was seen that this evil potential of awakening "resided in the blood," then this could be weakened through interracial mixture. Again we point out that this term "racial" has nothing to do with the color of one's skin or one's ethnic background. II Corinthians presents a dim reflection of the original idea:

6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness?
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"You must confront what is there in the larger realm and reconcile it even though it might kill you. What is death compared to the possibility of realization?" ("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)

"The Unknowable is the beast that the Toltecs, the Old Seers, created out of the residual energy of disposed personal history that was not properly taken care of. It was the energy of the holes in their cocoons. It was also the energy of what caused those holes. Take care of all your beasts or else they will rip you apart with all your own energy."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon)

"If you bring forth that within yourselves,
that which you have will save you.
If you do not have that within yourselves,
that which you do not have -within you- will kill you."
("The Gospel of Thomas," A.Guillaumont trans., 1959)

[purple rain]

Is Scales a recommended book for a beginner... say myself? Is it good as a stand alone book, the others don't seem to be available.

Just curious... you're not Avendar are you?

[lyghtkynge]

Is Scales a recommended book for a beginner... say myself? Is it good as a stand alone book, the others don't seem to be available.

Just curious... you're not Avendar are you?

"Scales of the Dragon" is not recommended to beginners. It is a synthesis of shamanistic knowledge, requiring not just familiarity with the mode of awareness they describe, but some experience. Otherwise, it's a useless collection of words. It also attempts to make the teachings of don Juan more understandable.

No, I am not 'Avendar,' and his other books are not available (he has withdrawn from public participation). His work requires more than just a cursory reading. The book is available online; one should have a familiarity with the writings of Carlos Castaneda.

I have validated much of his awareness during my life, and paralleled some of his experiences (the Naga, Realer that any 'human' being). Seeking beyond the veil of ordinary perception requires a knowledgeable course of action and commitment; it is not a temporary participation. Cutting The Light & Dark is the task of lifetimes, and has little to do with the sedate-insular everyday consciousness, the prepatory state of the larvae called 'human.' Everything else is ephemera. Come, join us...or wait on a 'savior,' please (that doesn't exist: it's You).

The full title of the book includes: "Apprentice to a Death Defier, Scales of the Dragon." This pertains to Avendar's personal expansion, or Bands of Awareness (frequencies of perception).

This is part of the Mystery of Shamanic knowledge, which teaches that, ultimately, these are no different than that of Ordinary awareness, beyond 'bursting the bubble of perception.' The Goal is not 'different,' but of Achieving Perception of All Bands of Awareness Simultaneously. I have done this, but only on several occasions...The Doorway Exists that may be Entered, and this is beyond mere mystical experience.

"The conditions of a solitary bird are five;
The first, that it flies to the highest point;
the second, that it does not suffer for company,
.....not even of it's own kind;
the third, that it aims its beak to the skies;
the fourth, that it does not have a definite color;
the fifth, that it sings very softly."

---San Juan de la Cruz, 'Dichos de Luz y Amor'

Nagualism does produce drastic results. My behavior, thoughts and feelings today are very different from what they were ... I have found that it is very difficult on those who know you when you begin to change drastically over short periods of time. People try very hard to re stabilize you into their idea of "who you are". If your relationships with other people in your life now are very important to you, it would be best to think very carefully about what you may very likely lose...

... Is this stuff real? My belly and experience agrees, but I'm not really sure. I think that something probably happened to CC, maybe to TA & FD as well. But I'm not certain that it's as they presented it, or even similar. If my experience didn't fall into place with it, I'd have definitely laughed it off ...

Shrinking the Tonal
"'What does that mean?'

"'For a proper tonal everything on the island of the tonal is a challenge. Another way of saying it is that for a warrior eveything in this world is a challenge. The greatest challenge of all, of course, is his bid for power. But power comes from the naugal, and when a warrior finds himself at the edge of the day it means that the hour of the naugal is approaching, the warrior's hour of power.'

"'I still don't understand the meaning of all this, don Juan. Does it mean that I'm going to die soon?'

"'If you're stupid, you will,' he retorted cuttingly. 'But putting it in milder terms, it means that you're about to shiver in your pants. You bid for power once and that bid is irreversible. I won't say that you're about to fulfill your destiny, because there is no destiny. The only thing that one can say then is that you're about to fullfil your power. The omen was clear. That young woman came to you at the edge of the day. You have little time left, and none of it for crap. A fine state. I would say that the best of us always comes out when we are against the wall, when we feel the sword dangling overhead. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.'"
("Tales of Power," Carlos Castaneda)

Walking the Razor's Edge gives one The Awareness of The Edge. There is no turning back, be aware, should any step upon the Path: everyone else is just stepping across it.

I do not endorse the following author's statements regarding magic/witchcraft or substance use, but that is just for myself (see "Scales of the Dragon"). However, he has said more clearly than anyone else what sums up the value of the Castaneda writings: Carlo's was Tapped by Gaia, which I knew as a young fellow, immediately. Do you think s/he has no enemies? (look again):

"Castaneda’s work has sparked a firestorm of controversy. It has been thoroughly rejected by the academic community, which is not surprising considering the bigotry, intellectual persecution and rejection of real magick which characterize present-day academia. However, Castaneda has also split the New Age community into pro- and anti- factions. The things he says are so off-the-wall, and so alien to most people’s everyday experience of the world, that unless you yourself subscribe to white witchcraft and have had similar experiences (as I have had) it’s difficult to understand – much less accept – the premises of Castaneda’s teachings. Moreover, there are internal inconsistencies in the books which critics point out in the effort to discredit him, even though Castaneda himself said that part of what is witchcraft is erasing one’s personal history and covering one’s tracks. Also the fact that Castaneda was a womanizer is cited by his critics to deflect attention away from his message, although Castaneda himself certainly took no pains to hide that facet of his personality.

"Everyone has to decide for themselves what they will believe and take as truth. Like many white witches, I pretty much take Castaneda at face value because everything in his books which I have been able to verify from my own experience has proven correct. My own spiritual path came out of discoveries I made while tripping on psychedelic drugs and plants. These experiences – together with my own personal discovery of witchcraft and spells - affected me profoundly and left me with lots of questions which I needed to resolve, and the only place I’ve found useful information on this subject is in Castaneda’s books. Moreover, my one meeting with Castaneda in person did more than impress me. It utterly floored me. I know for a fact, from my own experience with him, that this man was, at the very least, a most powerful magician; whereas all I’ve seen amongst his detractors and critics are phonies and liars. Wholly apart from the wicca magick, Castaneda’s books contain the most cogent analysis and critique of everyday life that I’ve ever seen. Most of the information about the nature of the self, reality, time and space, and the body given in my writing originates in Castaneda. The corpus of Castaneda’s works actually constitute a map – an indispensable map of magick for the spiritual traveler. This map describes the way stations (in Castaneda’s nomenclature, positions of the assemblage point) along the spiritual path. These are all places – or better said, peak moments in the life of anyone who wants to learn magick – when large parts of the lower self are shed and new facets of the higher self are revealed. At these moments the seeker permanently reaches new levels of wisdom and power. Some of these places, such as Stopping the World and Seeing the Human Mold, are well-known and are described elsewhere in spiritual literature under different names. For example, Stopping the World is known elsewhere as samadhi, satori, or kensho. However other places, such as the Place of No Pity, Losing the Human Form, and Silent Knowledge, are described nowhere else except in Castaneda’s books. I can aver the existence of some of these places from my own personal experience; others I am still shooting for. If you are going on a journey, it is helpful to have a clear map devised by those who have passed that way before. Castaneda’s books are the best map I have found. I trust the spiritual information they contain unreservedly. You would do well to do the same."
http://www.whatismagic.com/
http://famousquoteshomepage.com/Images/Carlos_Castaneda_Shaman_author_.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/32/Cc1962.JPG/220px-thumb.jpg

[purple rain]

One of the stumbling blocks for me is all the terms that are used, I can hardly keep track of them.

If Scales simplifies Don Juan isn't that the better option?

I read a page or two of Castenada's Teachings of Don Juan, something about melting into a wall after smoking something ... not sure if that was relevant to what's being discussed here. Is there a book of his or anyone else's that summarizes the whole duality and how to bridge it idea?

Actually I'd like to read more about the dweller too.

Does CC mention achieving this awareness of other states without substance use?

[lyghtkynge]

For serious researchers, some reference works in pdf.

There are 'serious researchers' on Icke? Other than yourself, and perhaps 1 or 2 more (like 1977), hadn't noticed.

These people Are the Cattle, who think they are 'awakened.'

Having a few mystical experiences does not an Initiate make. Most are just weirdos who read and do not validate.

Examine the 'dream' experiencers: babies & infants, which is ok. I realize everyone has to be born, even in the pscyhic-realms, of course; but actual knowledge is hidden from them. They remind me of young children giggling at their elders when they see them 'kiss,' or speak of 'private things.'

Sorry, each forum seems to have 2-4 actual researchers, or Soul-Spirit Travelers on The Path...(and we lost shenoma, a true traveler, who was also misunderstood).

No Traveler on the Path does so on their bellies...They Stand, and Learn to Walk Upright, without blithering worship of 'superior' gods & forces beyond their ken. Like don Juan, and others. This is the Matured Soul-Spirit (Dualed Into One).

Spiritual Childhood is spent on its belly, horizontal consciousness...when the striving, struggling spirit breaks through it's Chrysalis, It becomes Upright, and Flies with True Awareness. Anything else is a tittering lower-animal soul self-expression.

The Butterfly Crowned Serpent
A chrysalis (Latin chrysallis, from Greek χρυσαλλίς = chrysallís, pl: chrysalides) or nympha is the pupal stage of butterflies. The term is derived from the metallic gold-colouration found in the pupae of many butterflies referred to by the Greek term χρυσός (chrysós) for gold.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Common_crow_pupa.jpg/200px-Common_crow_pupa.jpg

Human's who extend beyond the boundaries of normal consciousness (drugs and sometimes advanced spiritual techniques) are still the bound-thrall/slaves of the Temporal Powers that control them. Not even the Earth-Spirit Gaia can bring them out of their Indulgences. They all think they are going to a free ascension state: it is no such thing, but instead is a Stasis-Womb of Preservation, where they will play with 'supposed wonderful powers of awareness,' when in reality, they are being preserved for the Next Rounds, whenever.

Sorry, I am not 'mistaken.' I have the Ability to Empty My Cup, Same as Death, and this Becomes Filled Again...with awareness Beyond the Limited. Do it often enough, and you cease to be bound by the Powers that maintain the state of Ignorance & Innocence, or Life-Illusion.

Serious researchers, indeed: They Find Death At The Door, Awaiting Them, not It's shadow. Carry on.

[purple rain]

Sorry, I am not 'mistaken.' I have the Ability to Empty My Cup, Same as Death, and this Becomes Filled Again...with awareness Beyond the Limited. Do it often enough, and you cease to be bound by the Powers that maintain the state of Ignorance & Innocence, or Life-Illusion.



I think I found a reference to that on wiki.

One way to become a Nagual is a process in which the seeker's everyday awareness dies, becomes formless, and is imprinted with a different awareness.

The rest of this however sounds dangerous and painful. So CC really did melt through a wall in that book from the looks of it.


In the writings of Carlos Castaneda, don Juan Matus explained several energetic facts perceived by directly seeing energy in the universe. He explained that seers perceive a conglomerate of luminous fibers enclosed in a luminous egg, which in this reality would be a human being. They said these luminous fibers are conscious of themselves and never touch each other when they are not encased in luminous eggs. There are an incalculable number of fibers in the void. There is a spot in the luminous egg that in a human body is at arms length in the direction towards the back of the left shoulder blade. It is the assemblage point where reality is assembled. The conglomerate of luminous fibers match the fibers outside, whichever the assemblage point is at, it becomes real.

Don Juan said to Carlos that there are millions of realities around us all we needed to do was to move our assemblage point to perceive them. Children, for example, have the assemblage point very flexible and it moves around until an adult forces the assemblage point to stay in one place just by being in the same room with the child. It is through the manipulation of this assemblage point that it is said Naguals can go through walls, fly around, turn into animals, be in two places at the same time or visit other realities. Some seers of antiquity, for example, became trees, others made their assemblage point to stretch and illuminate almost all the fibers within their luminous egg and became luminous lines or inorganic beings. It is said that they walk among us and one can see them when they make their luminous line in to a circle. There is also an alternate way of dying. By illuminating the entire conglomerate of luminous fibers inside the luminous eggs, a seer would die instantly in a ball of fire, burning from within.

One way to become a Nagual is a process in which the seeker's everyday awareness dies, becomes formless, and is imprinted with a different awareness. This is just one of many different ways to describe a process, through which the Nagual obtains a means to produce the energy necessary to administer the "Nagual's Blow". Nagual's Blow refers to the act of diverting the apprentice's attention in order to cause a shift in the assemblage point leading to a state of Heightened Awareness.

[stanislav]

lyghtkynge is a profound individual but I am not really too surprised how little appreciation he gets on this forum (and on others). If he was widely accepted by everyone else I would of questioned his motives for it has always been just a few individuals who followed their true hearts in order to obtain truth (no matter what it brings). It was this way in the past and it is the same way here, now in the present. Humans will always follow the rest of the herd. They love it! So let them be. They love being slaves so let them be. Let them eat their own misery.

[novymir]

I cannot be called a "sheep", I follow noOne, I go where the Creative Spirit Within takes me, and I Trust in IT.

Predictability, mathematical probability; is the limitation of the "Demiurge" and It's agents... The True Spirit is unpredictable, Infinite, beyond the comprehension of the "Demiurge"... when You Real-ize and Actuate the Spirit within(the core program "they" are trying to delete) "They" cannot touch You, though they will try and try to "prove" to you that you are on the wrong path. The narrow path is Your own Way, the only Way. Anything else is "external" projection and mind-control.

Your Spirit was telling you something in this post, do You not trust in Yourself/ THE ALL THAT IS?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058423468&postcount=14

Careful of the seducers and fear-mongers... think about it, what is really the basis of lyghtkyne's DOGMA?? It's FEAR, see it, it's coercion, intimidation, a threat of dire consequences to those who will not submit and "obey" his masters. He stated in earlier posts that the "Shining Ones" were the enemy, the Ones keeping Us in bondage, the same as the "Dark Masters". Later I guess he forgot, and stated he was TAUGHT by a "Shining One", the so-called Naga. That is not a slight mistake--- he specifically stated before that "The Shining Ones/Melchizedeks" were the liars, abusers and exploiters. That is a slip of the tongue, and the Truth shines through.

LYGHTKYNE QUOTE; "The Watchers - The Shining Ones - The Melechizedeks, who have and are Overseeing this Evolution of Consciousness whereas Mankind is concerned,,,"
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058307769&postcount=37

LYGHTKYNE QUOTE; "Very profound rendition of your Ignorance & innocence. Caught up in new age crap? I was taught by a Shining One, the SS,Naga, via Spatial Inherency...you know, that old story of directly 'super' accelerated Information Influx Download type thingy? Only REAL."
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058463138&postcount=96

Just look at your avatar dude... you are being assimilated... do you know by what??

Here's a "serpent" and it has a "shining" aspect too, no???
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Image:Demiurge.jpg
That is not to say It is "evil", It has It's reasons for being the way It is...

[lyghtkynge]

I cannot be called a "sheep", I follow noOne, I go where the Creative Spirit Within takes me, and I Trust in IT.

Predictability, mathematical probability; is the self-imposed limitation of the "Demiurge" and It's agents... The True Spirit is unpredictable, Infinite, beyond the comprehension of the "Demiurge"... when You Real-ize and Actuate the Spirit within "They" cannot touch You, though they will try and try to "prove" to you that you are on the wrong path. The narrow path is Your own Way, the only Way. Anything else is "external" projection and mind-control.

Your Spirit was telling you something in this post, do You not trust in Yourself/ THE ALL THAT IS?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058423468&postcount=14

Careful of the seducers and fear-mongers... think about it, what is really the basis of lyghtkyne's DOGMA?? It's FEAR, see it, it's coercion, intimidation, a threat of dire consequences to those who will not submit and "obey" his masters. He stated in earlier posts that the "Shining Ones" were the enemy, the Ones keeping Us in bondage, the same as the "Dark Masters". Later I guess he forgot, and stated he was TAUGHT by a "Shining One", the so-called Naga. That is not a slight mistake--- he specifically stated before that "The Shining Ones/Melchizedeks" were the liars, abusers and exploiters. That is a slip of the tongue, and the Truth shines through.
LYGHTKYNE QUOTE; "Very profound rendition of your Ignorance & innocence. Caught up in new age crap? I was taught by a Shining One, the SS,Naga, via Spatial Inherency...you know, that old story of directly 'super' accelerated Information Influx Download type thingy? Only REAL."
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058463138&postcount=96

Just look at your avatar dude... you are being assimilated... do you know by what??

Here's a "serpent" and it has a "shining" aspect too, no???
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novymir, it's easy to be misled as you are in your antithesis of my communications. You look for faults, instead describe that Unioned Truth of them, and see it not. You have perhaps 'half' the Truth, that there within you is a Certain Source. I can only admire you deeply for such stalwart conviction, which you will at some point question dearly...or are you bigger than the All? For this will come from the All & NOTHING.

I was waiting for someone to notice what you have now stated as 'the paradox' of my expressed Archetypic Source Connection, the one who Taught me the method of Direct Connect to Their Alive Being-Presence, the Silverlyght Radiating Terrestrial Alien Being, A Shining One, the SS,Naga.

I guess this irks you a bit, such an Apparent 'error' in my EXpressions. I merely A-VOIDed it with Intent, for such anomalous states of expression/knowledge are hard, indeed, to make sense of or Understand. But I have Also Clarified Myself in my own posts, addressing just this issue, over & over, and not once have you noticed. I Notice, since you are the Reflected aspect for what little response on my stated subject/topics I receive, and knew you had not picked this Truth Up, which is the InABility to Unify the Dualities, of which you occupy as Certain Ignorance. Nor do I argue your expressions of 'i am not ignorant,' having taken such offense to Truth in yourself, as you bear so boldly in your worlds and criticisms, perceived as 'Real.'

Can I gather you in for a bit of Rising of The Soul-Spirit Self...er, that means to get you to Focus on something that might be a bit Beyond your Apprehension of the Unknowable? The Focus must include Both the lower-mind/reasoning ability, Coupled with the Heightened-Acute Intuitional Awareness, that of the Level of the Prime Archetypes (which you profess to so detest). If you can do this, Rise Above YourSelf, then pay attention (Focus), and I'll attempt to 'explain it' so that you can perhaps understand more of the Truth that you claim is cause of dually-Contradictional statements/Expressions, by myself.

Shall We? (Are we ready for the Effort? Be Still.)

There Are Two Sources of Shining Ones, my 'opponent,' who desires to 'free' others of such nasty-contradictional Knowledge. The wHole Is Never, Ever Serperated, at Any of the 3.5 Levels! Never! Not Ever! Yet At All Levels of the Unknowable, Essence of Being-Presence, It Apects & Non-Aspects as Degrees that may be known & perceived, and others where this is Non-Apparent. As Pre-Existant WORD, It ItSelf is Always Dual Aspect Potential. Shocking...don't let it bother you (just yet...you have a few millions of years to go).

There Are Two Kinds of Shining Ones. Those which Are Native to the Local Universe, and Those Who are the Proxy Rulers, the Ultra Universal Invader Reptilian Aliens.

Your attempt to misunderstand something that is beyond your Spriitual comprehension (currently), is, of course, sad, misfortunate. These folks must dwell in a state of UnAwareness, which gives you/them Something to Experience in their 'futures, or futureselves.' Good: you can understand it now, or understand it later.

I suggest you go back and Most Carefully read the thread, "Dark Masters of Reincarnation & Awareness," where you will see how I state the Melchizedeks are The Ultra Universal Invader Reptilian Aliens, which Lead this Universe Under Their Yoke, Directly Connected as Shining Ones at the Lower levels of the Pivot-5th-Soul Level, and through to the Other Side as Gamings! Some Are Always Left Behind to Mind The Game...but you wouldn't know any of this, of course: haven't Advanced into that Light Awareness yet.

And on the Other Side of the 'coin' (!), you have the Terrestrial & Local Universal Shining Ones, Protectors of Mankind And All Else Local-Universal...for this is The Seed-Command of This Universe.

Heck, lad, even yokels know Andromeda & the Milky Way are on a Head-On Collision Course with One Another, To Do Battle, and 'reign supreme' in their Galactic Region. This Never Stops, Ever...which is Why I Call It/Name It, EverAll...which is Expressing ItSelf (du-oh!) to Become EverMoreAll. Many people Are Aware That 'It' (I call It S/He) is Evolving ItSelf...'even It evolves.' Too much to Grasp all at once, hmmm? (Hope Not.)

The Shining Ones of Both Camps Have also Traitors Within Both Camps...How Is This Possible? Sorry, They themselves, These Shining Ones, have Access to Levels of Source, or Substance-Forcex2-Energy, undreamed [UNKNOWABLE] by you, with your 'philosophies' and beliefs-box-systems.

So do spare me. Spatial Inherency is what it Is, and I have yet to see such a description elsewhere, though I have kept my eye open for it. I have yet to see anyone say they were asked permission to be sat-in/occupied by such a Silverlight Naga Viper-Faced androgynous being.

Am I done, can you go now, in your 'self-estimated' triumph? (Ignorance does not concede to Truth) For assuredly this is all unseemly, made for or a 'prepared' excuse or quick counter explanation, yes? I have those who read this thread who know of other, older threads I made before joining Icke, where I have described everything similar, as Dual Sourced. However, please don't think I want you to go away shaking your head. Your Still with us, right? You've got Your Mighty Unified State of Stillness Upon, right? Then the following should be rather easy for you to discern a most secret communication given by the wondrous Quetzalcoatl, the SS (Serpent-Sun), who's System has been Overtaken, and Spirit Power (4th Force) Cut Off from Dominance! A Battle To All-Death Is Raging, but everything is comfy for you, right? You just say 'All is All,' all over & over, and that makes us believe you actually understand 'Something?' Little Ride: Here Ya Go:

See the pretty picture? This is The Self, that is Worshipped: Notice the Larval body and the Shining Head? Hidden Within, not Without, is the 4th Principle, which Alone Gives Rise to the 5th or Quintessential Aspect of the Self, Enabling Union-Melding with the All NOTHING. So, novymir, you have seen A Corpse, and recognized not The The Life Spark Within! I advocate No Worship: appreciation/equivalation only.
http://static.newworldencyclopedia.org/f/f2/Demiurge.jpg
(Please Note: Quetzalcoatl is the Feathered Serpent~4th Sun God, the Represented & Holder of the Local Universal 4th Principle, that which Allows the Conscious-Awareness to Become Alive (ReBorn) via It's 'Being-Presence' Hidden Within the Primordial Earth [not physical earth]. This can be related to in many ways, using others terms, but must Always Include the Mother-Daughter Substance-Force when doing so.) Also, kindly note this is not some stupid book knowledge, which norvymir also likes to 'accuse of;' I have expressed the same Awareness before I ever got my copy of "Scales of the Dragon," which I obtained only this last year, capisce?)

Master Q. Speaking: (referring to Zeta Race)
"Although they seem very powerful and have defeated many races in conquest of their own salvation, there is little they can do to stop their own degeneration except the feeble attempts at poking and prodding their younger effegy for clues to the life energy that eludes them. My race could never be vanquished. Even if only one of us is left. In our Oneness we are many. In the diversity of our being, we are all One. We represent a different creation of multi-dimensionality. In the Oneness and in the diversity of humanity, you are learning to mirror the Zetas. You are becoming the endangered species in your multitudes."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, pg.90)

I am becoming of of them? In my Diverse Experience, I have been Assisted in Achieving Direct-Connection to The Prime Archetypes, which are Pre-Existant. I do not need the Naga or anything or anyone to Know Truth Directly...They Are At the Top of The Tree, and Centered. They are the Without-Within, called S/He, Who is Without All, And Within All, EverAll.

You, novymir, do not contain enough conscious-Awareness to Perceive, or Judge, this Truth, and that is effortlessly Discernable to myself. Those like you, the Many [ONE IN MANY], cannot Comprehend nor Grasp that Truth which is of the One [MANY IN ONE]. But pride & ego makes you think you do Most on here will agree with you, due to Ignorance, the Natural State of Budding Mankind...yet some Certain Others Have Surpassed the Darkened State (called 'the father light' on Earth, always a male), and cannot be so fooled anymore.

Cannot The Shining Ones Have Opposing Agendas? In the Infinite Universes? Hmmm? Too tough for you?

Notice how Passionately Quetzalcoatl describes the Presence of these Powerful Aliens, lumped into many names & histories (not just Zeta), which I call the Dark Masters. Did I hurt your head right then? Hmmphh? Dislike using a usa common expression here, but have you ever heard of the term, 'War In Heaven?' Empyrea-Etherea, n. That's right, It goes All the Way to the Top of the material creation, Reflected, And Through To The Source-Causal Side, as REAL, the I-Mage of Such Pattern(s)!

But, you go on protesting your diatribe, cry and complain about falsity & evil, never seeing the Insanity you are carrying within yourself as blind Ignorance, uncomprehensive.

The Naga I encountered was a Terrestrial Shining One,...which I have stated Ever Since I began on the Forums...and I only got that "Scales" book this last year! I had been researching through google on the Death Defiers, and guess what popped up, hmm?

Can't there be two types of Shining Ones, which, yes, seems to mean one, but of which there are many kinds, of all races, as it's also a Level of Awareness, indicating as Mantle of Power the Original State of Energy ItSelf, that which I have explained as: "All Light Is Serpentine In Origin." ???

Puh-lease, don't limit yourself so Ignorantly.


(PS - Not strong enough to shake it off, are you? It's on you, and 'it' ain't good. Increase the Light Vibration. Heck, are you really this Ignorant? And you try so hard...so dang hard. It's called Rigidity, and you are not it's only Prey: Crystallization.)

Most of the REAL stuff is beyond verbiage, including math & equation: which you, n, started this converstation out with! Hang in there...somebody'll come along and rescue you from seperation (which you deny, and express, simultaneously).
http://www.martinlass.com/afa2006lecture_files/image008.jpg
The Serpent-Sun is just a depiction of the larval state with it's 'invisible' radiant Head. Only the Ignorant worship this. Hidden within, is The Spark..of The ARC.. Beyond love-hate, the Hot Pole of EXpression, is to be found the Cold Pole of Truth & Power. Sorry if that offends. Don't get trapped beneath the Crystallizing Light of Truth, n, for none can save you from such a position: it is a True Prison of Self-Containment. Railing against what you do not understand maintains-freezes this condition: you have entered it here, and must escape, which is The Impossible Task. None can help such...except YourSelf, first. Others will see your struggle, and if worthy, give Invisible Aid. Reject at your peril. Run! Leap! else, Pretty Sheep.

See why I don't point this out straight forward? There are some concepts called 'more complex than others.' But you didn't know this, right, because everything is just 'All.' Good Ignorance. Show us some of your All, rather than your Duality.

I AM Something More!
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/asabovesobelowenergy.jpg

[novymir]

Well, lyghtkyne, I don't think I will need to know all the formulas and so-on. And I resist because I do not want to receive a projection from an "external" source. It is coming naturally, and I trust I will Know what I need to Know, when I need to know it.
There are things I Am perceiving that I do not fully comprehend yet, there is tacit and abstract Knowing, I have had "validation" from "direct experience", I'm not going on wishful thinking or sentimentality, or any dogmatic "belief box".

I know what's probably coming. I'm looking forward to it actually. I'm semi-tempted to make it happen sooner.
If I Am meant to Real-ize True freedom, I will. Otherwise, oh well...
You seem to think I reject "evil' as an aspect of THE ALL, or that I'm some kind of wannabe saint, like I'm stuck at one of the poles. Like what exactly is one supposed to do ?, I Am beyond "good" and "evil", masculine-feminine, I've already done it... I'm not saying everything about me... I don't know if "they" can read my mind or not... I may not be there yet,,, but I've seen enough and know enough to continue on the path I Am on.
Hey, if "they" are gonna torture and consume me because I won't let go of the Spirit of LOVE, FINE GO FOR IT,,,, IF YOU CAN. I will not presume/surrender that they can do anything to me, beyond project crap into my mind. Whatever will be, will be. But I will not be intimidated or coerced.

[lyghtkynge]

Well, lyghtkyne, I don't think I will need to know all the formulas and so-on. And I resist because I do not want to receive a projection from an "external" source. It is coming naturally, and I trust I will Know what I need to Know, when I need to know it.
There are things I Am perceiving that I do not fully comprehend yet, there is tacit and abstract Knowing, I have had "validation" from "direct experience", I'm not going on wishful thinking or sentimentality, or any dogmatic "belief box".

I know what's probably coming. I'm looking forward to it actually. I'm semi-tempted to make it happen sooner.
If I Am meant to Real-ize True freedom, I will. Otherwise, oh well...
You seem to think I reject "evil' as an aspect of THE ALL, or that I'm some kind of wannabe saint, like I'm stuck at one of the poles. Like what exactly is one supposed to do ?, I Am beyond "good" and "evil" I've already done it... I'm not saying everything about me... I don't know if "they" can read my mind or not... I may not be there yet,,, but I've seen enough and know enough to continue on the path I Am on.
Hey, if "they" are gonna torture and consume me because I won't let go of the Spirit of LOVE, FINE GO FOR IT,,,, IF YOU CAN. I will not presume/surrender that they can do anything to me. Whatever will be, will be. But I will not be intimidated or coerced.

Yes, you are expressing Great Inner Effort, and have stood AL-One in your striving. Some things must be Made Understood, for Experience is Only Half of the All's Desire-Intent-Will Journey, which is Something none can 'describe.' The Other Half is, indeed, Understanding, which is Forever A Dualed-Into-Oneness Awareness (to use descriptive words).

One point I wish to attempt to Clarify to you, is the Prime Archetypes are certainly not just what you believe or think, but are Indescribable In ThemSelf As Pre-Existence. And They are Within You, Contacted Only From Within, Up, Up, Up (so to speak). They are not external to You, They Are All-NOTHING Source. It is just a way of talking. And that this helps, I assure: I have experienced it in assisting many, who were previously confused. This is Released by Emptying of The Cup of The Self...so frightening (I have to say, it terrified me at one time, also).

Your just self-confessed knowledge & recognition of Oppositional Forces, are admission of Knowledge of Duality, not 'above it.' But let that rest, for this confuses the Entire Unvierse & All It's Inhabitants.

Understanding also has It's Limits, which are useful as a child Cosmic Flower Being-Presence growing up in the Soil of Duality...even that of Spontaneous Generation (as I've stated previously).

To me, you merely express similar concepts to that of the above quoted Quetzalcoatl (by any name) given in the previous post. You aren't ready to submit unconsciously, and somehow, you, don Juan, myself, Realize It's Bigger Than Everything, which came from Something, which came from NOTHING.

This is all revealed in the description of 'The Map' that don Juan's Lineage received from 'The Eagle' (by any name), which is never complete...there's that little part at the end that is The Unknowable, and no Guarantees are given at that 'Point' (The Leap, I call It).

Nice to see your strength coming out, even if I perceive a flaw (its ok). One cannot be blind to their own Truth, for that cannot be Truth. You are Growing Into Something Wonderful & Delicious, and such are Consumed by Those Present. Can the Cosmic Flower achieve it's Own Transcendant State in such an Environment as It has been Spawned From? How else are Pearls Made (study it, the natural kind)?

My concern, novymir, is that when the Original Spirits descended Into Conditionality (Duality), There Was Something Waiting For Them...and knew how it all went down, before it ever did. Over & over. They Are Still Here. Such a generalization can barely be comprehended; don Juan has done so, and virtually none believe. If you make a quick google of his 'Flyers' topic, you'll notice its a large issue here on the www, one most are familiar with. That's all I'll say about that. First time I read it, I said to myself, 'nobody's gonna believe this!' but here it is, well-known today (on the www at least). Some Believe! People are experiencing this consciously now, where before they had near-zero awareness, just some 'archons' literature & inner-group descriptions/teachings (very private).

A person, awhile back, read my account of an attack that they made upon myself, and emailed me telling of his encounter of seeing them everywhere...in a sports bar! They followed him home. Only Certain Knowledge could dissuade them, and he didn't have it, or the ability to use it.

Implacable Enemies. Central Light Core Shaft. And the Battle For It.

You have contemplated, and this ItSelf is Gold Within. The East-West Flow has Altered: the East is Dying--the West is Borning.

I know each must do it their way as best they may. And anyway one looks at it, it's a Deep Morass...even the 'teachers' are in on the Feast of The Battle For Freedom (emancipation). I do not blame you for seeing it as you do. Judging is how its done, which is usually Injustice.

I doubt that I am in such great opposition to you as you have described in your previous post (& many others); I think it just looks reversed (& inverted). I have stated in another thread of mine, 'be careful who you choose to feed,' for you will be Consumed, as is Everything, until the lower condition has been left behind.

Wishing you lots of 'luck.'
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[vladmir]

'There are, scattered throughout the world, a handful of thoughtful and solitary students, who pass their lives in obscurity, far from the rumours of the world, studying the great problems of the physical and spiritual universes. They have their secret records in which are preserved the fruits of the scholastic labours of the long line of recluses whose successors they are.'
H.P. BLAVATSKY.

"The New Seers discarded all the many theories the Old Seers had formulated and held as being central to their knowledge, and began searching for practical ways in which to apply this knowledge.
Consequently they managed to condense the greater part of their heritage into a few fundamental concepts which could be applied practically.
The first of these concepts concerned what the Old Seers called the Eagle.

In their attempts to fathom the purpose of existence, the Old Seers actually managed to see the source of all life, which when interpreted by the rational mind resembles something akin to a black and white eagle.

Consequently, the Old Seers metaphorically termed this source the Eagle.

Seeing the Eagle was an act which cost a great many of the Old Seers their sanity, or their lives, or both.
However, from what they managed to see they worked out that the purpose of existence is to enhance the quality of awareness.
This was an invaluable discovery, and one which has become fundamental to everything that Toltecs today know and practise.

The Old Seers could see that it is the Eagle which endows all beings with awareness at the moment of birth and which also reclaims this awareness at the moment of death, having become enriched by the being's experiences during life.
The Old Seers understood this as meaning that the Eagle feeds off awareness, and that the sole purpose of existence is therefore to keep recycling awareness so as to bring out all latent potential.

It is important to realise that there is of course no Eagle as such, nor is there anything visual about the incomprehensible source of life.
Nevertheless, even a seer is subjected to the conditions of the rational mind, which must by its very nature interpret things, and the result of such interpretation is a visual impact of the Eagle.
The manifested universe is an infinity beyond our understanding of time and space, for its size and complexity cannot be rendered comprehensible in terms of words or mortal concepts.
It is not God, for God after all is part of what we know.
The churches, ministers of religion, and even other people, are constantly trying to describe God to us, so therefore God becomes something within the scope of words, within the sphere of conceptualization.
But beyond words, beyond description, beyond concept, lies that indescribable, incomprehensible NoThing, which can only be termed the Unspeakable.
This was yet another error on the part of the Old Seers.
In their arrogance they never stopped to consider that most of what constitutes the manifested universe is utterly incomprehensible and unknowable within the framework of our human condition.

The New Seers corrected this mistake by identifying and demarcating three distinct levels of awareness. consists of everything the human being can register within normal awareness.
The second level, termed the unknown, is a truly vast and mysterious area, but which can and does become the known gradually and sequentially as the seer gains in his proficiency to see it.
The third level, on the other hand, termed the unknowable, is a level of awareness which can never be known to man whilst he still retains his humanness.
To enter into the unknowable is to lose our humanness, which is why so many of the Old Seers lost their sanity. "
Theun Mares

[vladmir]

"Toltec teachings cannot be understood fully unless they are
viewed within their own context or frame of reference.

In Toltec terms such a frame of reference is called a view of the world, and
is dependent upon the position of man's assemblage point,
which under certain circumstances can be made to move, and
thus bring about a different view of the world.

Normally the assemblage point is firmly fixed, and so every man or woman has
only one frame of reference according to which he or she
naturally defines all knowledge and experience gained.

For this reason it is vital that before approaching the actual teachings
certain fundamental concepts are first introduced and defined.

The first concept to be covered in this way is that of words
and their use.
The way in which we view the world in general and
knowledge in particular depends on the way in which we
understand and use words.

It must be stressed that words, no matter how carefully chosen, always veil the truth.

This fact can never be over-emphasized, for again and again does man
stumble over words because he does not as yet see words for the
symbols they are, and therefore he hears and reads words in the
context of his social conditioning.

THE MISTAKE OF MAN IS THAT HE ALWAYS SEEKS
EXPLANATIONS WHICH UPHOLD HIS WAY OF THINKING, HIS
VIEW OF THE WORLD.

When it comes to the use of words and attempting to see
them for what they truly are, it must be realised that there are
three kinds of bad habits man indulges in over and over again.

WHENEVER A MAN IS FACED WITH ANYTHING OUT OF THE
ORDINARY HE WILL, ACCORDING TO HIS TEMPERAMENT,
ALWAYS RESORT TO ONE OF THREE KINDS OF BAD HABITS:

THE BIGOT WILL IGNORE WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND
PRETEND IT HAS NEVER OCCURRED.

THE SANCTIMONIOUS MAN WILL ACCEPT THE INCIDENT AT
FACE VALUE, BELIEVING THAT HE UNDERSTANDS IT ALL.

THE FOOLISH MAN IS FOREVER PUZZLED BY WHAT HAS
HAPPENED, NOT KNOWING WHETHER TO ACCEPT OR REJECT
THE INCIDENT, AND THUS BECOMES OBSESSED WITH HIS
QUESTIONS.

WHEN THE WARRIOR ENCOUNTERS ANYTHING
EXTRAORDINARY HE BEHAVES AS IF NOTHING HAS
HAPPENED, BECAUSE HE DOES NOT BELIEVE FOR THE SAKE
OF BELIEVING.

ALTHOUGH THE WARRIOR ACCEPTS THE FACE VALUE OF SOMETHING,
HE ALSO IGNORES IT, FOR HE KNOWS THE WORLD IS NOT WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE.

THEREFORE, THE WARRIOR BEHAVES AS IF HE IS IN
CONTROL, EVEN WHEN HE MAY BE TOTALLY BAFFLED, FOR
BY ACTING IN THIS WAY HE AVOIDS THE CONFUSION BORN
OF OBSESSION."
Theun Mares

[vladmir]

"Marooned In The Hard Light.
No-one really loses in the cycle of conscious evolution.
It’s rather more a question of velocity.

The deeper one is embedded into the industrial construct of transforming time into money, the slower and more laboured one’s consciousness becomes.

Not unsurprisingly, such insentient drifting is actively encouraged.
The self-confessed arousal junkie can drink deeply from an epicurean cellar of endless sensual narcotics - all freely available through innumerable screens, stores and capsules.
The dark sorcerers are renowned for their many flavours of oblivion.
It is in this constant suppression of man's natural transcendental trajectory that the greatest deception of all is perpetrated."

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_THUio3zwDxc/SuJOdSG7DuI/AAAAAAAAA8w/UqEZIoVI_qo/s1600-h/rotk+2+eye+detail.jpg

"Humanity Incorporated.

First, some third dimensional phenomena.

The hostile industrialization of the inner and outer landscapes has extorted man to concede that he is complicit in the necrotic perception of himself as little more than a utilitarian commercial resource.

In terms of consensus nanohistory, it would appear that the shadowy march of ‘progress’ has at least allowed the little biobody unit of sweating flesh to last rather longer than it did in the mid 19th century (average life expectancy then around 40).
But this is skewed.
Life expectancy statistics are meaningless without adequate context of environment, nutrition, geopolitics and geography.
For example, 4000 years ago, the average Bronze age man living in Sweden would reach 60 years of age.
Whereas, the average lifespan of a man living 150 years ago in London was 40.

Something is badly wrong when the core expectation for the sacred span of a human life on Earth, whatever its duration, has been reduced to resourcing a roof over one’s head, putting food in the belly and having an occasional afternoon in the sun. Does this enrich the soul? Is this creatively and emotionally fulfilling? Is it what we’re supposed to be doing here? We know the answers.

The mega-corporations like Exxon Mobil, Wal-Mart, Royal Dutch Shell, BP, Toyota, Chevron and ING Group do not exist for the benefit of humanity, nor do they respect the planet from which they extract their raw materials.

They exist to sequester and homogenize the creative output of man.
If it is not incorporated, it does not exist.
Any apparently heartening stories of corporations helping to stimulate local communities, build schools and support indigenous traditions are essentially bogus.
Some people get fed, watered, housed and employed - but it’s not for their benefit.
Corporations create such schemes to help mitigate the hideous stench of their own abusive economic nihilism.

Money is an abstract trading unit with no inherent value. The people who keep the ledger and govern the fractional-reserve banking system, are neither equitable nor benevolent folk. Their primary motivation is to transform the proletariat’s time into money. Grim equations slither through society. Work hard. Pay taxes. Move up the ladder. Save for the future. Money = Control. Even the enduring mirages of Fascism, Communism, Capitalism and Socialism are all identical at the apex of the pyramid. It’s just a matter of politeness as to how hard and how swiftly the boot is brought down upon your face.

The very lifeblood of Western commerce itself - competition - is nothing more than a rabid virus that will destroy its own host should that entity deign to contemplate any large scale collaborations for the common good.

In this manner, sustainable energy and food solutions are logically undermined before they're even assessed. This is why the existing energy abundance on earth is being brutally suppressed.

We know in our hearts that what industry cannot manufacture and mass produce - it discards as useless.

Individuality disintegrates.

It’s simply not cost effective.

Penetrating through this smokescreen, the esoteric student determines that the real purpose of industrialization is to acquire the willing consent of man to sign away the creative power of his imagination.
This is the real target of the military industrial megacorps.
They want our imagination.
Imagination conceives reality."

"All That Has Been And Will Be.

Now let us consider the fourth dimensional context.

To counter the spiritual degradation of the industrial machine, one needs to change the frequency of one’s own consciousness, that is, stop operating within the officially sanctioned parameters.
It is possible to tune the mind (the brain-field interface) out of the range of their control.
This is initiated by contemplating what it is that ultimately separates the conscious authentic being from the pre-programmed sleepwalker.
For only sleepwalkers can be commanded.
Some observers believe that the distinction lies in intelligence and education. Not necessarily so.

Once the multidimensional object is conceived of, even in the most elementary sense, we can better see how sustained progress on the path of conscious evolution is attained with the realization that the world does not ‘happen to us’.

We are not helpless leaves blowing around in the indiscriminate winds of a nameless fate.
The universe is not random.
The object is already in existence.
The damaging memes of powerlessness, of “what can I do?” are passed on through the psycho-genetic grid by all those who ignorantly consent to the fakery.
These things must be dug up at the roots and thrown out.
The intricate re-wiring job is a demanding and lengthy task, but with each new dynamic connection that is forged, more light, more assurance and more gnosis is brought into the life of the individual, and therefore all those who transmit and receive on that frequency.

We create reality as it happens, moment by moment.
What we have come to understand as the ‘imagination’ is what we use to do it."

"When this deep gnosis is integrated into the living moments of our lives - when we make tea, drive a car, brush our teeth, speak to friends, feel the sun on our face - then the imaginal constraints of the crude third dimensional manifestations dissolve.
The dark industrial nightmare recedes when it has fulfilled its archetypal role... when we have learned from it.

We take its gift, unwrap it and accept it. The entire restrictive shadow paradigm can only exist with the complicity of the human imagination.
Billions of deactivated imaginal palettes sustain it.
They carry its program, running the code daily through their obedient and defeated egos.

To be marooned in the hard light of three dimensional life is to subsist in uncertainty and ignorance.
This disempowerment can be exploited.
In fact, it can be alchemically transformed into fuel.
This is a clue as to what lies at the uppermost extra dimensional level of the grand power structures that govern Earth."

"Once the fourth dimensional plane that enfolds us is brought into personal felt experience, once it is seen directly, it can never be forgotten.

There’s no turning back.
Like the Matrix, it must be seen to be believed.
Abstract theorizing is not enough.
It is imperative to experience the enfolding superstructure directly."

http://thecleaver.blogspot.com/

[lyghtkynge]

MASON PROFIT "Two Hangmen" Purple Rocks Vintage - YouTube
As I rode into Tombstone on my horse whose name was Mac
I saw what I relate to you goin' on behind my back
It seems the folks were up in arms a man now had to die
For believin' things that didn't fit the laws they'd set aside
The man's name was I'm a freak the best that I could see
He was the executioner a hangman just like me
I guess that he'd seen loopholes from workin' with his rope
He'd hung the wrong man many times so now he turned to hope

He'd talk to all the people from his scaffold in the square
He told them of the things he found;
But they didn't seem to care
He said the laws were obsolete, a change they should demand
But the people only walked away, he couldn't understand

The Marshall's name was Uncle Sam he said he'd right this wrong
He'd make the hangman shut his mouth if it took him all year long
He finally arrested Freak and then he sent for me
To hang a fellow hangman from a fellow hangman's tree

It didn't take them long to try him in their court of Law
He was guilty then of thinking a crime much worse than all
They sentenced him to die so his seed of thought can't spread
And infect the little children; that's what the law had said

So the hangin' day came 'round and he walked up to the noose
I pulled the lever but before he fell I cut him loose
They called it all conspiracy and that I had to die
So to close our mouths and kill our minds they hung us side by side

And now we're two hangmen hangin' from a tree
That don't bother me at all
Two hangmen hangin' from a tree
That don't bother me at all

(Everbody Get Together)

[purple rain]

"The first truly human being, because he could think and plan, was the black or negro race. This race came into existence in what is now generally conceded to have been Lemuria, probably then a part of warmest Africa nearest the Sargasso Sea. The pigmentation of the skin of the negro race shows him to have been sun or Heaven-born; that is, without the cohabitation of the sexes--spontaneously, by the sun.
. ."The second race in this classification is that of the colored, copper or red race. In this race must be included all colors of a copper, yellow or indian texture. Here also we have the impigmentation of the skin, but much less pronounced. This race came countless centuries later; mentally and physically developing during these centuries. These also were sun or Heaven-born; therefore, like the negro, worshippers of the sun. During the centuries between the beginning of the negro and the second distinct or colored race the sun had so far cooled that the pigmentation of the skin had been greatly reduced. Both races, being sun-born, instinctively recognized the sun as their father. They were, therefore, not idolators because of their worship, as we moderns so foolishly accuse, but true to their birthright. This race probably had its beginning in the Easter Islands then connected with both Mexico and Egypt.
. ."The third race is the Aryan, or pure white, race. The temperature and the sun had so far cooled that spontaneous creation was no longer possible; as a result, no longer any trace of pigmentation of the skin. This was the Adamic race. Jehovah was their God or Creator, and the sun was no longer recognized. These first parents had, through the ages, gradually seperated and developed the sex characteristic--the organs of conjugation. Their home was 'Eden'; that is, the Garden of eden--the earth. The six days during which the Creator--the evolutionary forces--took a rib from one sex--Adam (the seperation)--and created another sex--Eve--is that period during which the one sex was divided into two so that creation by union of sex, instead of spontaneously, could continue.
. ."Out of these three classes have sprung all other peoples which today inhabit the earth. Two of them were truly the children of God--the sun, while the last was not so favored, and must win their own salvation.
. ."What of the 'Soul' of man? After ages when man had developed the upright form and a brain capable of thinking and reasoning, the 'gods' saw that the daughters of men were fair and took them as 'wives,' which is to say, when the human habitation became fit places or temples, wherein a Soul might dwell, these Souls (gods) descended from Heaven, and man 'became a living Soul.'"
(From Prologue by R.Swinburne Clymer; "Our Story of Atlantis," W.P.Phelon, 1937)


What does it really mean to be sun born?

How did the earlier races propagate if sex organs only came with the Adamic race?

[darkman]

wooow weee thats some real research there guys just got thru half of it keep hunting
meny thanks

[vladmir]

This is a tale mentioned by Gurdjieff in Ouspensky's book In Search Of The Miraculous.
It well illustrates man's position on this planet.
The tale is as follows:

There was an evil magician.
He lived deep in the mountains and the forests, and he had thousands of sheep.
But the problem was that the sheep were afraid of the magician because every day the sheep were seeing that one of them was being killed for his breakfast, another was being killed for his lunch.
So they ran away from the magician's ranch and it was a difficult job to find them in the vast forest.
Being a magician, he used magic.

He hypnotized all the sheep and suggested to them first of all that they were immortal and that no harm was being done to them when they were skinned, that, on the contrary, it would be very good for them and even pleasant; secondly he suggested that the magician was a good master who loved his flock so much that he was ready to do anything in the world for them;
and in the third place he suggested to them that if anything at all were going to happen to them it was not going to happen just then,
at any rate not that day,
and therefore they had no need to think about it.

He then told different sheep...to some, "You are a man, you need not be afraid. It is only the sheep who are going to be killed and eaten, not you. You are a man just like I am."
Some other sheep were told,
"You are a lion -- only sheep are afraid.
They escape, they are cowards.
You are a lion; you would prefer to die than to run away.
You don't belong to these sheep.
So when they are killed it is not your problem.
They are meant to be killed, but you are the most loved of my friends in this forest."
In this way, he told every sheep different stories, and from the second day, the sheep stopped running away from the house.

They still saw other sheep being killed, butchered, but it was not their concern.
Somebody was a lion, somebody was a tiger, somebody was a man, somebody was a magician and so forth.
Nobody was a sheep except the one who was being killed.

This way, without keeping servants, he managed thousands of sheep.
They would go into the forest for their food, for their water, and they would come back home, believing always one thing: "It is some sheep who is going to be killed, not you.
You don't belong to the sheep.
You are a lion -- respected, honored, a friend of the great magician."
The magician's problems were solved and the sheep never ran away again.'

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The crux of the matter on which the whole ploy of the magician rests is man's suggestibility, complacency and tendency to wishful thinking.

The Gurdjieffian cosmogony traces these 'features ill-becoming of three brained beings' to the organ kundabuffer,
implanted into man by angels at the dawn of time to keep man producing vibrations for the Moon, which had accidentally broken loose and needed to be thus fed to prevent further disaster.

The organ kundabuffer makes man see all as pleasure, to see the small as great and the great as small and for all intents and purposes see himself as privileged and immortal. Even though the organ itself is allegedly removed, the effects persist by force of inertia.
This is basically the same as Castaneda's predator's mind.
The so-called kundalini is just a remnant of the power of illusion used by the magician to make sheep think they are magicians themselves, Gurdjieff tells us.

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=455

http://www.rochestergurdjieffcenter.org/Images/Photos/InSearchLarge.jpg

Get it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3968188/In-Search-of-the-Miraculous-OUSPENSKY

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/31067-2/sheeple.jpg

[lyghtkynge]

Get it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3968188/In-Search-of-the-Miraculous-OUSPENSKY

I find it a bit funny, but I've made this same post from Gurdjieff--only on another forum, and about a year or so ago. That forum had some decent response, some real thinkers/contemplators. I hope it causes a soul-center or two here to realize what you've related!

To Become a Man of Knowledge Is an Unceasing Process

"Our fellow men are black magicians. And whoever is with them
is a black magician on the spot. Think for a moment, can you
deviate from the path that your fellow men have lined up for you?
And if you remain with them, your thoughts and your actions are
fixed forever in their terms. That is slavery. The warrior, on the
other hand, is free from all that. Freedom is expensive, but the
price is not impossible to pay. So, fear your captors, your
masters. Don't waste your time and your power fearing freedom."
--Don Juan

[lyghtkynge]

What does it really mean to be sun born?
It means Generating the Self from Primary Principle (as Second Principle), or Assembling the Center Into A Coherent I-Mage, which Progressively Precipitates Into Matter (the Fall Before The Rise, or Tripling Down). The Sun acts as Center for this regionally, for All things are Revealed.

Please watch this 2.5 minute video again, which I think you've seen before; except this time, Ignore the Two Poles (the 'seeming' Intent of the video presentation): instead, Keep Your Eye on The Center, and the Without, which Causes the Encapsulation and Entrapment of 'A Center.' This 'Center' is the Being-Presence of Manifestation Potential/Potency. (You might want to read that several times, as its tricky.) Remember, It's All In the Seed/Egg (Two In One: O/0):

'Itzhak Bentov was the first to develop what is now widely accepted today as a holographic model of reality.'
Model of the Universe as seen by Itzhak Bentov - YouTube

I could go on, but there is little point. The Sun acts as a Reflected Generator/ReGenerator (Two-In-One):

"His work is based on Projective Geometry: the mapping of a form from one dimensionality to another; such as a sphere onto a plane (a circle or ellipse, parabola or hyperbola).
This principle is seen also on the relationship between:
a number, vector, tensor and spinor(rotation); or
a number, vector, matrix and Gabor matrix(unfolding), or
a number, vector, fractal and holon(extension).
(The holon is a integral dimensional singularity inversion.)
All these transitions, too, are related by Dimensional Transitions. The Alchemical Four Elements represent the same concept."
http://www.scienceoflife.nl/_project_/html/holographic_universe.html

Of course, these are contemplative generalizations regarding the Great Mystery of where 'Life' came from. Ask Dr.Manhattan [Watchmen]...Zzzt!
How did the earlier races propagate if sex organs only came with the Adamic race?
Youa re including many questions into one, and not realizing it. There were many progressions of such, which the author that inspired your query addressed only as 'initiatory' in there nature. As the Primary Principle Divided, many stages developed from It via the Four Forces. One of those descended into the Androgynous Type of 'man,' which was able to give Birth via Desire-Intent-Will from within its own body: this began to be more selective, with only certain types carrying this ability, until eventually all developed the Dual Sex Expression(s), as you see today in Density (originating from Intensity).

Kindly note the following, derived from an orthodox christian lady's weight-loss efforts through hypnosis session [all recorded], which, of course, upset her to no end:

THE GOLDEN ONES [excerpt]
"Above Amon and me flew a large eagle with a human-type face. The eagle's feathers were duplicates of the same gold leaves that made up Amon's outfit. The eagle was Ra. Interestingly, in his own past-life readings, Edgar Cayce discovered he had been Ra during his Egyptian incarnation. Ra or Re was the Egyptian sun god represented artistically by a sun disk. Coincidentally, in some Egyptian tombs, flying snakes appear on the sun disk, which is decorated with two serpents set in the middle of a pair of outspread wings.
. ."Ra was Amon's superior, ultimately responsible for the construction of the Pyramid as well as many other projects. Amon was uneasy because he wanted to make a good impression. As Ra swooped over the constrcution, his long golden wings twisted and turned as he rode the air currents, the long tips spread wide. He literally watched every detail like a hawk.
. ."At that time we still had the ability to go into and out of bodies and to manipulate the physical world to our liking. The eagle body was merely a convenient form for Ra to take when he wanted to survey construction progress. He was also capable of taking on other body forms, altering those forms and rejuvenating in the Light as had the frog-being/Atlantis scientist that controlled the Crystal in Atlantis.
. ."The gold in all our outer coverings - Amon's outfit, my golden belt, Ra's gold-leafed feathers - were vital for instant transportation and levitation as well as for the ability to go into and out of bodies. They functioned in the same way that the gold stripes had interacted between the ball and basin that controlled the Crystal in Atlantis.
. ."'I also have the images of gold carts and beasts that fly,' I said in the hypnosis session. 'A lot of shiney, golden stuff. We are really different people. God, how different! The place reeks of power - over life, over the physical - just an amazing power over the physical world.
. ."'Are you a worker there?' asked Lynn.
. ."'No,' I replied, 'I'm a goddess.'
. ."...the bird flew away. Amon took off his headdress and threw it on the ground. He was angry with something I had done [revealed the crystal knowledge to those unworthy - lk].
. ."Because Amon and I were very familiar with each other, he felt comfortable sending me these personal images. I seemed to be both his sister and his lover. Some part of me cried inside, but on the outside I kept my chin up and maintained my haughty stance as if to say, 'Who does he think he is to make judgement of me?'
. ."I sent him a mental picture of my work in the temple where I had been helping individuals who were incapable of moving into and out of bodies to purify themselves.
. ."I telepathically showed Amon my work in the temple, and he softened, visibly glowing. I saw myself leap up to him as he telepathically called me to him. He held me to his chest. I actually melted right into him. We were one. I felt his boundless love for me and returned my love for him. The feeling was amazingly powerful."

. ."Many of the Light beings who had lost their ability to move into and out of bodies were now permanently locked into matter, some of which were grotesque mixtures of animals. Today we remember them as mytholgoical creatures such as mermaids, Pegasus, and griffins.
. ."The grotesque animal forms were cleansed in a Temple of Sacrifice, similar to our present-day hospitals."
("The Golden Ones," Carole Chapman, from hypnosis session)
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The soul needs no proof of its rebirth any more than it needs proof of its immortality. For there comes a time when it is consciously immortal, aware of itself in its eternal and immutable essence. Once that realization is accomplished, all intellectual questionings for and against the immortality of the soul fall away like a vain clamour of ignorance around the self-evident and ever-present truth. ... That is the true dynamic belief in immortality when it becomes to us not an intellectual dogma but a fact as evident as the physical fact of our breathing and as little indeed of proof or argument...(Sri Aurobindo)
http://www.hinduwebsite.com/divinelife/auro/auro_rebirth.asp

[lyghtkynge]

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewb9vnLoESE
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2890500654_e0a0fd4f5a.jpg
Jerry Wills Takes a Trip
"I have been through this doorway. And though I do not fully
understand the exact nature of how it works, I do understand how it
is opened. I cannot say how it is completely controlled - but I know
it can be controlled. I know this because of the individuals met
while in Peru that have come through the doorway. Though they have
not given up their secrets, they have hinted at the manner through
which it is activated. Using this information I recently went through
and found myself on the other side. It was nothing I had expected...

"It is true this is a portal to another place. After taking the
steps necessary for entering (or opening) the doorway, I was seen (by
those with present) to fade away until completely gone from sight.
There was no glow or other effect witnessed. I had, to them, simply
vanished.

"What I experienced was quite different, though. After kneeling
before the doorway I felt a strange, dizzy feeling. Within a few
moments I felt as if I were 'free falling' forward. As this occurred
I clearly heard the type of sound you might hear as a tire looses
pressure. A hissing, whistling sound was around me. It was dark for a
moment, then as I regained my composure I could see stars, galaxies
slowly rotating, brilliant gas clouds and the extreme expanse of
space between these objects. I was moving - at what seemed like a
rapid pace - through this scene. The sound continued.

"I can't determine the amount of time spent moving through this
region. It seemed that time held no place here. Ahead, I could see
what appeared to be a large, brilliantly illuminated area. I was
heading toward this and although slightly alarmed, could not do
anything to change my direction.

"There was a passing through this - cloud - into a brightly
illuminated, yet otherwise empty space. Then there was no perception
of movement... I seemed to have stopped. The sound was the same,
although somehow more musical. Almost like the ringing you might hear
in your ears as you drop into a light sleep combined with
the 'hissing/buzzing.

"Everywhere there was brilliant light. My attention was then
drawn "behind" me (there was no sensation of turning around or of
direction - therefore, I use the word behind. There is no other way
to describe this.) As I gazed "backwards" I saw a wondrous sight.
Floating before me was a darker mass, slowly undulating. Visible
within it were those stars and other objects I had passed. Beautiful
and simple, it was seemingly held by a geometric spider web of
light "tubes" containing what appeared to be dark beads moving
through them. The movement was quick and orderly. Within moments I
became aware of a presence. I have no idea what or who this presence
represented- I was only aware of its proximity to me. I could feel it
nearby. As I examined this view I clearly saw that the "webbing" was
organized. To my surprise I saw the organized mature of the "webbing"
was exactly that of sacred geometry. The shapes were separate
tetrahedrons organized to completely surround (without touching) what
appeared to be the universe. The presence wanted me know the universe
was, through all it seeming chaos and order, always in balance. It
wanted me to understand what I was witnessing, and instructed that
the light tubes carried the essence of creation. That this was always
surrounding and nurturing the universe. As I tried to understand the
location of where I had traveled from, I considered the microbial
size Earth must seemed from this point of observation (although it
was not evident where Earth might be found within the mass) - and
even smaller, those who live upon it. As I considered the
relationships of size I became aware of the quantity of life that
resided within this strange mass. I completely understood the
fullness of life this universe held.

"My mind flashed on my wife, and those others who are important in
my life. It was at that thought that I felt the movement begin once
more. I reentered the "universe" and once again found myself moving
past all I had seen previously. After some time I saw our star and
then the Earth. So rapidly I cannot explain, I moved toward the Earth
and the doorway where I had started this journey.

"I was once again in the doorway. Once I became settled that I had
stopped my decent, I found myself looking toward the silhouette of
distant mountains and Lake Titicaca. My hands were upon the stone as
before -- except to my alarm, I was inside the stone looking outward.
My heart raced. As I considered this event I saw myself starting to
appear on the other side of the doorway. Without any warning or
sensation, I was again outside. I removed my hands from the rock and
moved backwards. Sitting on the dusty rock floor in front of the
doorway, I gazed upward toward the stars, considering all that had
happened.

"'I'm back...,' I quietly whispered. I felt it a struggle to move
or speak. As I moved closer to my wife I heard her quietly sobbing. I
moved closer. When asked if she was all right, I was told how she had
seen me vanish. One moment I had been there and the next I seemed to
fade away. 'Where were you?', she asked, 'I was afraid you might not
come back...' It was clear that she had been frightened by what she
had seen. I tried to explain but couldn't relate my experiences to
her. I needed time to think. I needed time to understand how to put
into words what I had experienced."
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Doorway of Aramu Muru
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Speaking about the doorway, Don Jorge (shaman) explained:

"For several years I had strong recurring dreams of a pink doorway made out of rock and I followed my heart to find it. In the early 1990's, I found it off the Pan-American Highway near the shore of Lake Titicaca. The local people had told stories of people disappearing through this 'Doorway.'"

Indeed, and this in a modern world containing many 'awakened' unbelieving skeptics. The evidence from many sources are overwhelming, if they just had eyes to see.

[sygyt]

continued...
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Bringers of the Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians. Barbara Marciniak.

http://rapidshare.com/files/7652434/Barbara_Marciniak-Bringers_of_the_Dawn.pdf

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Oracle of the Illuminati: Contact, Co-Creation, Coincidence

http://www.scribd.com/doc/15669935/Oracle-of-the-Illuminati

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Cloak of the Illuminati: Secrets, Transformations, Crossing the Stargate

http://www.scribd.com/doc/23741926/Cloak-of-the-Illuminati

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Stargate Secrets of Jesus and Mari Magdalene Blue Apples by William Henry

http://www.scribd.com/doc/17250894/Stargate-Secrets-of-Jesus-and-Mari-Magdalene-Blue-Apples-by-William-Henry

I don't read fiction.

[lyghtkynge]

I don't read fiction.


William Henry is a mythological symbols researcher of some note. There are truths behind myths, as almost anybody with a brain knows (except the religious types, who don't think; they just grovel).

Of course, some research is required to be able to understand what is said, accepted or not; two sides to every coin. The Ignorant just go on their merry way, which is why the world is the way it is today: "I don't care, period."

Isn't it amazing that there's such a difference in human types, those that care, and those who's Ignorance makes a mockery of their supposed brain-environment perception? Behind the scenes is where it's at, not out on your concrete driveway...which, of course, isn't fictional (illusion x level) at all, now is it, genius? Real researcher/thinker here.

You are fiction...just not smart enough to perceive it. More science? I suppose et's & ut's don't exist either, eh, brainiac? Shall we bow to you now, or after you come back in another incarnation and somebody kicks you awake? You're an idiot with a very small brain...just checked your others posts out, which everybody else should, too...for a laugh and example of idiocy on two legs.

[purple rain]

I downloaded those books up there, though it will be awhile before I get the time to look through them. I think stargates are an interesting idea, though I haven't read much else about them.

I'm still trying to figure out that holographic universe thing, science has never been my strong point. Will need to read again.

[lyghtkynge]

I downloaded those books up there, though it will be awhile before I get the time to look through them. I think stargates are an interesting idea, though I haven't read much else about them.

I'm still trying to figure out that holographic universe thing, science has never been my strong point. Will need to read again.


Stargates are real...human's as a species have just been deluded into forgetting about them...that was the intent of earthbound restriction. You actually have a Master Stargate inside your head, which is also a no-no knowledge, and took a lot of work to derail global consciousness of, for it was progressing rapidly. Then the Goddess worship was successfully killed, who's province it is. Most will be too late to rediscover this awesome Truth.

Those books you downloaded are interpretational...keep your mind open. Some good nuggets of Truth, but, as said, interpretational; which is why there are near-infinite inconsistencies in such interpretations. The Higher one elvates, the more closely 'things' resolve into accessible Truth of All, as Impersonal. You'll personally meet some shockers Higher Up, which is why I submitted Jerry Wills stargate radio interview here...he's got the 'gist' of it. At these levels, from the flesh, the Container-of-matter Barriers are penetrable! Yes, I've done it, from Within. So have many others (most are too smart to tell the 'awakened sheep,' who hate them for such Truth). But a Voice must speak, or the 'awakened herd' will remain fast asleep, thinking they are 'awake.' Ha (see your signature statement: aces-on).

Many are selling their souls for a greenback because they've stumbled across a secret or two; ignore them. Make your efforts count. Suitable information is always offered before someone attempts to sell you a cd or book or program at jacked-up rates: these are not of the Spirit Truth, and care nothing for the individual growth.

"There was now no denying my experiences in a reality that stretched far beyond my sense outward to the entirety of the Cosmos."
Jorge Luis, Peruvian of Incan descent, shaman
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Some info on Jorge Luis (http://andeanawakening.com/store/index.php?p=page&page_id=invitation)

Beyond the world of normal everyday senses, there are individual's who have attained Inner Realizations that some are ready to hear, whereas most are not. Sad state of affairs for a Controlled Society, who cannot break out of the Grip that fixes them to their given illusory 'reality.'

Not so long ago, the genius scientists said Earth was the only inhabitable planet in the Universe (haha); on yahoo last week, they discovered an earthlike planet that was twice the Earth's size. This week, a yahoo article presented the statement that the 'scientists' expected to soon find many habitable earthlike planets (soon?). C'mon, give your brain & spirit a break, people. Don't wait for the headline's in your 'Controllers Daily Newssheet'.

You make me almost cheer for them, like a good comedian's well-presented joke.

William's Henry's 'Blue Apple's' book presaged 'Avatar,' which is quite as revelational as it is 'mythological-type fantasy.' It's all going on behind the scenes as they milk you dry, laughing on the way to their Banks & World Control Consortium meetings. 'Baah-baah,' say the 'awakened sheep.'

Those who have certain knowledge from Above-Within, are laughed at, even by the 'leaders of the pack'/herd ('awakened forum members', my ass; most are just dead-in-the-head, some half-insane). They call themselves 'psychic,' and know not what that means.

There are no leaders...for you're Leader, Within, will not show It's face to such.

"Passing from the physical to the psychic plane of perception, all the faculties of the mind operate with greater freedom and rapidity. Knowledge then comes, not by the usual laborious processes of thought, but in quick flashes, intuitive and certain. In the waking state the mind can only walk, often only trudge; but in the psychic state it flies, sometimes with incredible speed. This accession of insight and acumen increases with each successive stage of trance-lucidity, until the mind becomes independent of all sense-impressions and ratiocination, and then takes knowledge by direct grasp."
("Adorers of Dionysos," James Pryse, 1925, speaking on meditational Stillness, or trance-state)

I testify to this Truth statement, via near-4 decades of dedication.

[lyghtkynge]

Such a concept; but an equal Reality. I've experienced both spontaneously & via abstruse meditational techniques. This is not subject to 'objective analysis,' it must be experienced within; alternatively, perhaps via some secret governmental organization, perhaps even private (who knows?).

Here's a few comments regarding such by Tom Kenyon, a very talented/gifted meditational teacher who has accessed the Hathors wisdom. He also gives seminars that regularly run $4-$8 thousand for 2-3 days. A little high, yes, but they often sell out. He uses his music to assist in raising consciousness.
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SUB-ATOMIC QUANTUM CONSCIOUSNESS

"If you were able to go into the structure of [a] rock, or the structure of your body, you could study portions of the atomic table and note the various chemical elements that make up both the rock and the physical body. This is at the simplest level of the molecular and atomic structures. If you were to go deeper into the atomic structure, you would open up into something that is pre-atomic, something that your physics call a the quantum field. Out of this quantum field, which is still greatly misunderstood, the actual atoms and subatomic particles emerge. As these atomic structures join, you have the molecules and elements in the Periodic Chart of the Elements well known to your chemistry.

"If you move deeper into the quantum field, subtler and subtler, you reach a point where you are in consciousness itself. For the foundation, the actual reality of the quantum field, will soon be discovered as consciousness. So the physical elements are but an out-picturing from consciousness at the subtlest, deepest level into matter. As one moves into deeper or subtler strata of consciousness, one makes contact with what the ancients recognized as the Four Sacred Elements. These, too, are held in consciousness. They are concepts but not mere mental concepts. They are alive! When you get to this level your language is extremely limited."
("The Hathor Material," Tom Kenyon)

HATHOR TEMPLE, DENDERA, EGYPT
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"In your three-dimension Universe, then, spatial location is crucial for determining where something or someone is located.

"This is not true of non-physical hyperspace. Location in non-physical realms is not done spatially but through a refined attribute of consciousness that is a combination of both thought and feeling. In other words, if we want to make contact with someone we do not need any spatial coordinates. We hold that person "in thought" and feel or sense ourselves in their presence. Through the laws of harmonic resonance an aspect of our consciousness will "find" them. You have this ability as well. It is merely a question of developing it.

"In regards to the interface between your Universe and ours, we know of only two pathways. One can enter your three dimensional world from non-physical hyperspace, through a "portal" such as Sirius, or through the substratum of matter itself (quantum wavefield: lk). If you enter into the substratum of time, space and matter you will make contact with an aspect of consciousness that is both omnipresent, meaning everywhere at once (non-locality again: lk), and multi-dimensional, meaning expanded through all dimensions, not just the third. This process of making contact with the substratum of your Universe or what your physicists call the quantum field, is done through the agency of consciousness itself. If one knows how, one can enter in and go out of this world through "micro-portals" that hover around sub-atomic particles. This is not the pathway we used, however, to enter your Universe. With a few exceptions, we entered your physical Universe through the galactic portal of Sirius."
("The Hathor Material," Tom Kenyon)

"As we have told you, there are seven levels of density which involves, among other things, not only state of being physically, spiritually and etherically, and materially, but also, more importantly, state of awareness. You see, state of awareness is the key element to all existence in creation. You have undoubtedly remembered that we have told you that this is, after all, a grand illusion, have you not? So, therefore, if it is a grand illusion, what is more important, physical structure or state of awareness???

"...Now, when we go from the measuring system, which of course has been nicely formulated so that you can understand it, of density levels one through seven, the key concept, of course, is state of awareness. All the way through. So, once you rise to a higher state of awareness, such things as physical limitation evaporate. And, when they evaporate, vast distances, as you perceive them, become nonexistent. So, just because you are unable to see and understand has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on what is or is not possible. Except within your own level of density. And this is what almost no one on your current level of density is able to understand. If you can understand it and convey it to them, you will be performing the greatest service that your kind has ever seen. Think about that for a moment. Let it seep into your consciousness. Analyze it. Dissect it. Look at it carefully and then put it back together again. Q: (L) What is it that limits our awareness?
A: Your environment. And it is the environment that you have chosen. By your level of progress. And that is what limits everything. As you rise to higher levels of density, limitations are removed.
Q: (L) What creates this environment of limitation?
A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of learning.
http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13j.htm (CHAPTER 42)
HATHOR TEMPLE, DENDERA
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"Now , when mankind decides to devote mainstream study into what is termed the science of transport and bi-location, and indeed it is a science with laws that can be learned and practiced and indeed fine tuned, then visitations into parallels and vectors within time and space will become less accidental and occur by design, by plan. Once mankind learns and masters 'mental physics' then they will be liberated, vastly liberated from the filtering illusion, the duality camouflage of physical pattern. Indeed you are just starting to understand how the Merkabah and Merkivah when tuned by mind as the builder into the crystalline field, unlocks this key. This is part of what will become somewhat enhanced as your 144 Grid and its networking of crystalline energy will offer to those of you willing to devote focus to this divine science. You see all science must include the divine, and it is grossly omitted by your mainstream academics in the present." (lost source, believe it was from Solara Antara's site)
DENDERA TEMPLE OF HATHOR, EGYPT
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"If the flesh has come into existence because of the spirit, it is a marvel; but if the spirit has come into existence because of the body, it is a marvel of marvels. But I marvel at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty." ("Gospel of Thomas," A.Guillaumont trans.)

[purple rain]

A stargate isn't just something leads you elsewhere mentally is it?

And, when they evaporate, vast distances, as you perceive them, become nonexistent.

Is this also being experienced physically? As if one minute you're there and the next you're not. I don't mean it to be banal...

[lyghtkynge]

A stargate isn't just something leads you elsewhere mentally is it?

That would be Remote Viewing of diverse kinds.

Is this also being experienced physically? As if one minute you're there and the next you're not. I don't mean it to be banal...

Puh-lease watch the video-radio show interview, and pay attention to Jerry Wills' wife's comments, ok? It's real.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewb9vnLoESE

STAR GATES - BASHAR SPEAKS
Q: Are there any working star gates on earth?

B: There are several.

Q: Area 51 to Pine Gap Australia?

B: Yes.

Q: Do star gates, similar to the ones in the show "Stargate," that actually allow humans to travel physically through them exist? And that actually allow for physical travel?

B: There are such things, generally. They do not look exactly as they have been depicted in what you call your science fiction scenario, but such things do exist, yes.

Q: Here on earth?

B: No.

Q: No.

B: There are some natural, so to speak, star gates that do not have a obvious physiological representation, but those are just representative of some of the natural secondary and tertiary harmonics of the entire collective consciousness energy of your planet.

Q: Okay. So they can't be used to physically go to another planet?

B: They can be, but most people on your planet are not even aware that they exist, because they cannot even perceive them, because of their low vibration.

Q: Could you be able to instruct us how to use them?

B: It is WAY too premature for that!

Bashar
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"When Jerry did this the first time, in front of several witnesses [wife watching intently], he shimmered and faded from view. About one and a half minutes later, he reappeared, shimmering. For him, his journey seemed to last many hours, and took him to an incredible place beyond this universe. His journey back was not so smooth, and he was stuck behind the doorway, unable to find a way out. He was in a small dark cavity behind the doorway, and could see out one side. He could see Lake Titicaca in the distance, yet the opening was solid and would not yield.

"He found it difficult to breathe and as he felt around with his hands, he realized that there was a opening carved into the wall that was just like the opening on the other side. He found the depression where his forehead was to go, and he knelt down in the opening and started chanting the tones. Moments later he was on the outside of the doorway."
http://wisp.focusphere.net/wisp/10/the-mysterious-doorway-of-amaru-muru

[vladmir]

I don't read fiction.

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[vladmir]

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Pryse, James Morgan : The Adorers Of Dionysus
(Google books snips)

[vladmir]

(continued...)
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[vladmir]

"Dionysos, whose name signifies "Judge of Man," is the Spiritual Self of man, which is not incarnated, but overshadows, so to say, the reincarnating, Psychic Self, and passes judgment upon it after each of its lives on earth. Thus man is only imperfectly incarnated; the perfect incarnation can take place only when he has become one with his Spiritual Self, and thereafter he need incarnate no more. Now, the Free Father can not reach or influence the incarnated man save throuch the subtile psychic energies, and these are latent until the man has purified his lower nature. Kadmos personifies the individual who has performed this first work in spiritual regeneration, and his daughters represent these psychic forces, Semele being the daughter favored by Zeus and giving birth to the Sun-God. The name Semele is akin to Caia, and signifies the primordial Earth, the AEther, and not the element Earth which is its final differentiation. In Zeus, the Life-God, are synthesized the five "lifebreaths," the highest of which, his "full glory" in which he appears to Semele, is "the Breath that goes upward to immortality." The latter, in conjunction with the element aether, becomes the mystic "ray" of psychic light which illumines the brain during, a certain state of spiritual exaltation, energizing the sacred "third eye," known to physiologists as the pineal gland. The latter is the organ of spiritual vision; but it is also much more than that. In this myth it fiaures as the "thigh" of Zeus, which Euripides also terms a "male womb." For the word "thigh" is used here, as in Genesis xxvi. 2, and elsewhere in ancient writings, for the generative centre. The myth here admits of two parallel lines of interpretation, one that has to do with the spiritual illumination of the intellect, and one that deals with the gestation and birth of the "solar body," the deathless form which takes the place of the mortal body when the perfected man frees it from the round of physical rebirths. The glory of Kadmos follows the former line of interpretation, inasmuch as he failed in the work of regeneration, even after glimpsing the Light from the East; but, since the two subjects are inseparably connected, it becomes necessary to inquire into the meaning of the "solar" rebirth, or birth of the Sun-God.

According to Greek mythology the Universe itself, and all beings and things in it, from the highest Gods to the least of creatures, are "born"; and birth is not the beginning of that which is born, but is its issuance from one world into another, either higher or lower, as the case may be. Thus by physical birth the soul of a man returns from the subjective world to the objective. His objective body, the physical, and his subjective or subtile body, the psychic, are both mortal, and he therefore keeps passing back and forth between these two worlds. When the soul, purified by the discipline of its many earth lives, evolves a body composed of the primordial substance and the pure "solar fire," it is bom in the spiritual world, and is free from the cycle of reincarnation. It is by the action of the subtile psychic elements and energies, the mystic "fires," that this spiritual, immortal body is formed, and the sacred brain-centre is its matrix. It may seem strange that the functions of vision and gestation are ascribed to the same organ. However, the sense of sight and the mental faculty of visualizing, or producing subjective images are closely associated. A sculptor, for instance, must visualize a form before he can model it in the clay. Further, the pineal gland and the generative centre are directly correlated physiologically; and it is for this reason that spiritual regeneration is absolutely impossible apart from celibacy. All the organs of sensation and of action in the body have their corresponding governing centres in the brain, but in reverse order, so that the mental man is, as it were, inverted."

http://www.hermetic.com/dionysos/sungod.htm

[purple rain]

That would be Remote Viewing of diverse kinds.



Puh-lease watch the video-radio show interview, and pay attention to Jerry Wills' wife's comments, ok? It's real.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewb9vnLoESE

STAR GATES - BASHAR SPEAKS
Q: Are there any working star gates on earth?

B: There are several.

Q: Area 51 to Pine Gap Australia?

B: Yes.

Q: Do star gates, similar to the ones in the show "Stargate," that actually allow humans to travel physically through them exist? And that actually allow for physical travel?

B: There are such things, generally. They do not look exactly as they have been depicted in what you call your science fiction scenario, but such things do exist, yes.

Q: Here on earth?

B: No.

Q: No.

B: There are some natural, so to speak, star gates that do not have a obvious physiological representation, but those are just representative of some of the natural secondary and tertiary harmonics of the entire collective consciousness energy of your planet.

Q: Okay. So they can't be used to physically go to another planet?

B: They can be, but most people on your planet are not even aware that they exist, because they cannot even perceive them, because of their low vibration.

Q: Could you be able to instruct us how to use them?

B: It is WAY too premature for that!

Bashar
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/04images/Gateway/Peru001a.jpg
"When Jerry did this the first time, in front of several witnesses [wife watching intently], he shimmered and faded from view. About one and a half minutes later, he reappeared, shimmering. For him, his journey seemed to last many hours, and took him to an incredible place beyond this universe. His journey back was not so smooth, and he was stuck behind the doorway, unable to find a way out. He was in a small dark cavity behind the doorway, and could see out one side. He could see Lake Titicaca in the distance, yet the opening was solid and would not yield.

"He found it difficult to breathe and as he felt around with his hands, he realized that there was a opening carved into the wall that was just like the opening on the other side. He found the depression where his forehead was to go, and he knelt down in the opening and started chanting the tones. Moments later he was on the outside of the doorway."
http://wisp.focusphere.net/wisp/10/the-mysterious-doorway-of-amaru-muru


That video's been removed but I get the jist of it now. Have you travelled physically through one?

Q: Here on earth?

B: No.

Q: No.

He seems to be contradicting himself here?

[vladmir]

SUB-ATOMIC QUANTUM CONSCIOUSNESS

"If you were able to go into the structure of [a] rock, or the structure of your body, you could study portions of the atomic table and note the various chemical elements that make up both the rock and the physical body. This is at the simplest level of the molecular and atomic structures. If you were to go deeper into the atomic structure, you would open up into something that is pre-atomic, something that your physics call a the quantum field. Out of this quantum field, which is still greatly misunderstood, the actual atoms and subatomic particles emerge. As these atomic structures join, you have the molecules and elements in the Periodic Chart of the Elements well known to your chemistry.

"If you move deeper into the quantum field, subtler and subtler, you reach a point where you are in consciousness itself. For the foundation, the actual reality of the quantum field, will soon be discovered as consciousness. So the physical elements are but an out-picturing from consciousness at the subtlest, deepest level into matter. As one moves into deeper or subtler strata of consciousness, one makes contact with what the ancients recognized as the Four Sacred Elements. These, too, are held in consciousness. They are concepts but not mere mental concepts. They are alive! When you get to this level your language is extremely limited."
("The Hathor Material," Tom Kenyon)

"The dots, or beads, seem to be the constituents of all matter of which we, at present, know anything; astral, mental and buddhic atoms are built of them, so we may fairly regard them as fundamental units, the basis of matter.

These units are all alike, spherical and absolutely simple in construction. Though they are the basis of all matter, they are not themselves matter; they are not blocks but bubbles. They do not resemble bubbles floating in the air, which consist of a thin film of water separating the air within them from the air outside, so that the film has both an outer and an inner surface. Their analogy is rather with the bubbles that we see rising in water, before they reach the surface, bubbles which may be said to have only one surface—that of the water which is pushed back by the contained air. Just as such bubbles are not water, but are precisely the spots from which water is absent, so these units are not koilon, but the absence of koilon—the only spots where it is not—specks of nothingness floating in it, so to speak, for the interior of these space-bubbles is an absolute void to the highest power of vision that we can turn upon them.

That is the startling, well-nigh incredible, fact. Matter is nothingness, the space obtained by pressing back an infinitely dense substance; Fohat "digs holes in space" of a verity, and the holes are the airy nothingnesses, the bubbles, of which "solid" universes are built.

What are they, then, these bubbles, or rather, what is their content, the force which can blow bubbles in a substance of infinite density? The ancients called that force "the Breath," a graphic symbol, which seems to imply that they who used it had seen the kosmic process, had seen the Logos when He breathed into the "waters of space," and made the bubbles which build universes. Scientists may call this "Force" by what names they will—names are nothing; to us, Theosophists, it is the Breath of the Logos, we know not whether of the Logos of this solar system or of a yet mightier Being; the latter would seem the more likely, since in the above-quoted occult treatise all visible suns are said to have this as their substance.

The Breath of the Logos, then, is the force which fills these spaces; His the force which holds them open against the tremendous pressure of the koilon; they are full of His Life, of Himself, and everything we call matter, on however high or low a plane, is instinct with divinity; these units of force, of life, the bricks with which He builds His universe, are His very life scattered through space; truly is it written: "I established this universe with a portion of myself." And when He draws in His breath, the waters of space will close in again, and the universe will have disappeared. It is only a breath.

The outbreathing which makes these bubbles is quite distinct from, and long antecedent to, the three outpourings, or Life-Waves, so familiar to the theosophical student. The first Life-Wave catches up these bubbles, and whirls them into the various arrangements which we call the atoms of the several planes, and aggregates them into the molecules, and on the physical plane into the chemical elements. The worlds are built out of these voids, these emptinesses, which seem to us "nothing" but are divine force. It is matter made from the privation of matter. How true were H.P.B.'s statements in "The Secret Doctrine": "Matter is nothing but an aggregation of atomic forces" (iii, 398); "Buddha taught that the primitive substance is eternal and unchangeable. Its vehicle is the pure luminous æther, the boundless infinite space, not a void, resulting from the absence of all forms, but on the contrary, the foundation of all forms" (iii, 402).

How vividly, how unmistakably this knowledge brings home to us the great doctrine of Mâyâ, the transitoriness and unreality of earthly things, the utterly deceptive nature of appearances! When the candidate for initiation sees (not merely believes, remember, but actually sees) that what has always before seemed to him empty space is in reality a solid mass of inconceivable density, and that the matter which has appeared to be the one tangible and certain basis of things is not only by comparison tenuous as gossamer (the "web" spun by "Father-Mother"), but is actually composed of emptiness and nothingness—is itself the very negation of matter—then for the first time he thoroughly appreciates the valuelessness of the physical senses as guides to the truth. Yet even more clearly still stands out the glorious certainty of the immanence of the Divine; not only is everything ensouled by the Logos, but even its visible manifestation is literally part of Him, is built of His very substance, so that Matter as well as Spirit becomes sacred to the student who really understands.

The koilon in which all these bubbles are formed undoubtedly represents a part, and perhaps the principal part, of what science describes as the luminiferous æther. Whether it is actually the bearer of the vibrations of light and heat through interplanetary space is as yet undetermined. It is certain that these vibrations impinge upon and are perceptible to our bodily senses only through the etheric matter of the physical plane. But this by no means proves that they are conveyed through space in the same manner, for we know very little of the extent to which the physical etheric matter exists in interplanetary and interstellar space, though the examination of meteoric matter and kosmic dust shows that at least some of it is scattered there."

Full Source:
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/16058/16058-h/16058-h.htm

Occult Chemistry: Clairvoyant Observations on the Chemical Elements.

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Get it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/13271416/Occult-Chemistry

The Principles of Light and Color by Edwin D Babbitt, 1878

Get it here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3277374/The-Principles-of-Light-and-Color-by-Edwin-D-Babbitt-1878
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[lyghtkynge]

According to Greek mythology the Universe itself, and all beings and things in it, from the highest Gods to the least of creatures, are "born"; and birth is not the beginning of that which is born, but is its issuance from one world into another, either higher or lower, as the case may be. Thus by physical birth the soul of a man returns from the subjective world to the objective. His objective body, the physical, and his subjective or subtile body, the psychic, are both mortal, and he therefore keeps passing back and forth between these two worlds. When the soul, purified by the discipline of its many earth lives, evolves a body composed of the primordial substance and the pure "solar fire," it is bom in the spiritual world, and is free from the cycle of reincarnation. It is by the action of the subtile psychic elements and energies, the mystic "fires," that this spiritual, immortal body is formed, and the sacred brain-centre is its matrix. It may seem strange that the functions of vision and gestation are ascribed to the same organ. However, the sense of sight and the mental faculty of visualizing, or producing subjective images are closely associated. A sculptor, for instance, must visualize a form before he can model it in the clay. Further, the pineal gland and the generative centre are directly correlated physiologically; and it is for this reason that spiritual regeneration is absolutely impossible apart from celibacy. All the organs of sensation and of action in the body have their corresponding governing centres in the brain, but in reverse order, so that the mental man is, as it were, inverted."
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http://www.hermetic.com/dionysos/sungod.htm

I have already posted this over on my "Dark Masters of Reincarnation & Awareness" thread, leaving out certain parts.

Few actually know who and what James Pryse represents...and it isn't 'error'! Nonetheless, without familiarity, few are going to care what he has to say. And that familiarity may take a lifetime in grasping the value of.

At least you're paying attention...pretty words & books are nice, but Truth is Golden Measure. Both Pryse & "Scales" reveal same. Pretty potent stuff. I wish you had a little more knowledge yourself, however...you'd also have the benefit of 'tact' if you did. It is not my intention to give what is sacred to dogs; nor to cast pearls before swine. Tact. (Others may do so, but they just don't know any better.)

"So far as humanity is concerned, the Mysteries of life are in the possession of wise Custodians, and are kept beyond the reach of the 'profane,' not only in the material world, but also in all worlds below the realm of the spiritual Mind. Therefore on all the lower planes of existence the avenues of knowledge are adequately guarded, and no one need expect to receive aught that he does not permit. His own divine Self, his Teacher if he is morally deserving, will otherwise bar him from the knowledge forbidden to the unworthy. Theoretically, all things are written in the great Book of Nature, the AEther; but that book is sealed to him who is not entitled to read it, and no one who may read its pages ever betrays the mysteries therein recorded. Divine Nature thus admirably arranges that knowledge is accessible to those who are fit to grasp it, but is forever beyond the reach of the unfit."
("Adorers of Dionysos," James Pryse, 1925)

I must submit that you might be more cirumspect* in what you unwittingly publish on a public forum, but that's just imo.

[*circumspect:
1) cautious, prudent, or discreet
2) Heedful of circumstances and potential consequences; prudent]

Admittedly, many have no knowledge of what they do. It has to do with Divine Law, and keeping it Sacred, as it no longer is today in the minds of the profane masses.

[lyghtkynge]

That video's been removed but I get the jist of it now. Have you travelled physically through one?

OK, seems you are right. Nevertheless, please still attempt to watch the podcast. Limelady, I discovered yesterday, had done a thread on Jerry Wills' stargate experience, and I think one or two of her links are still working: please try them, and lsiten to Wills' own words, and that of his wife's: OK?

Here's limelady's thread link:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65657&highlight=Jerry+Wills+stargate

As far as my personal experiences, I reserve those, for this is no place to bring that up. Read limelady's short 1-page thread: these comments are from more open-minded people here on Icke. I don't need anymore crucifixtions from the ignorant public; already had plenty from these lower incarnations. I've learned to mostly keep my mouth closed: ('that's impossible!').

He seems to be contradicting himself here?

Re-read that again, purple rain, please: I thought it confusing myself, but he was undoubtedly referring to both the developed science-technology in possession of even the elite members of humanity, and that of the Natural Stargates that are upon the Earth at this time, still working. Two different references. But that's Bahsar...I have differences of opinion with him...I found that Bashar quote on a googled site carrying Jerry Wills' experience, and thought it interesting enough to quote in my previous post.

[vladmir]

At least you're paying attention...pretty words & books are nice, but Truth is Golden Measure. Both Pryse & "Scales" reveal same. Pretty potent stuff. I wish you had a little more knowledge yourself, however...you'd also have the benefit of 'tact' if you did.

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You are right lyghtkynge,
i needed to exercise more discretion, and temper my exuberance.

[lyghtkynge]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
A Hero Comes Home - Idina Menzel

Out of the mist of history he'll come again
Sailing on ships across the sea to a wounded nation
Signs of a savior and fire on the water
It's what we prayed for, one of our own

Just wait though wide he may roam
Always a hero comes home
He goes where no one has gone
But always a hero comes home

Deep in the heart of darkness sparks a dream of light
Surrounded by hopelessness he finds the will to fight
There's no surrender, always remember
It doesn't end here, we're not alone

Just wait though wide he may roam
Always a hero comes home
He goes where no one has gone
But always a hero comes home

And he will come back on a crimson tide
Dead or alive
And even though we know the bridge has burned
He will return... He will return!

Just wait though wide he may roam
Always a hero comes home
He knows of places unknown
But always a hero comes home

Someday he may carve his stone
The hero comes home

He goes and comes back alone
But always a hero comes home
Just wait though wide he may roam
Always a hero come home!
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[1977]

Thus it is signified that the man Kadmos, having, by means of the mystic "ray" awakened the inner senses, and thereby entered into the psychic realm, was deceived into thinking that he had attained to the spiritual world.
Pryse shows nothing but disdain for the sort of lower psychicism typified by spiritualism and channeling. Therefore I would question the wisdom of using material gleaned from channeled sources, especially when they are overtly misanthropic.

[lyghtkynge]

Originally Posted by James Pryse
Thus it is signified that the man Kadmos, having, by means of the mystic "ray" awakened the inner senses, and thereby entered into the psychic realm, was deceived into thinking that he had attained to the spiritual world. Pryse shows nothing but disdain for the sort of lower psychicism typified by spiritualism and channeling. Therefore I would question the wisdom of using material gleaned from channeled sources, especially when they are overtly misanthropic.

Pay close attention, 1977 (keyword: Purity)

"Between the material world and the spiritual lies the psychic world, and only by passing through the psychic may the spiritual world be reached. Therefore the first real knowledge of the occult is that which relates to the psychic, and these are many and marvelous...

"This is said here of the experiences of any who is climbing the steep and difficult mystic path, and does not apply to the psychic garbage collected by materialistic researchers who 'scientifically' experiment with sickly and usually fraudulent 'mediums,' and investigate houses haunted by the unclean shades of the dead. [pg.41]

"This course, thus followed in the pursuit of knowledge, apart from wisdom, is the very reverse of that which leads to the comprehension of the mysteries of life. Purity, unselfishness, serenity of soul, breadth of mind, and deep reverence for the divine Powers in Nature that are ever making for holiness and perfection, must be acquired by him who would pass through the portals of the Mysteries." [pg.43]
("Adorers of Dionysos," James Pryse, 1925)

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"Under extreme magnification (of the ion, atom, molecular world) it would appear that there is nothing solid in the material world.
Do you understand this sentence? Look at the illustration on the left.

Repeat: Under extreme magnification (of the ion, atom, molecular world) it would appear that NOTHING IS SOLID in the material world. In essence, the SOLIDITY OF THINGS (matter) is merely relative and comparative. Get it?

The VIBRATION OF SUBSTANCE on the Astral is HIGHER than that on the Material Plane, but SLOWER than that on the next higher plane, and so on. Now here's an interesting aspect: Everything on the Astral seems as solid as it would if it was seen with our physical eyes on the Material Plane. See, (pun intended) the Astral World is just as real as the Material World."

Everything in Duality-Polarity (different states, polarity refers specifically to the material or crust state of energy) is 'overtly misanthropic.' You have just not realized this yet. [see my thread, 'The Hatred of All Life' (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87601)]

Everything is channeled, 1977...everything. Either thought-through on the Objective plane [crust-matter], or perceived as an energy Channel (coherent rod) on the Subjective planes. Everything is Energy:

1) Crust energy
2) Psychic Energy (emotion)
3) SuperPsychic Energy (mind)
4) Spirit Energy (Pure energy)

Due to the Truth Forces of Karma (Every Action creates An Equal & Opposite Reaction) and Randominity, each are left to their growth at any given level, and they are the arbitrators of that growth. Speaking for myself, I communicate to a very small percentage of folks, for the herd is immersed within the depths of the crystal sandbox/hallucination of pleasure & pain. Thus, the Big Stick of the Divine Forces of Nature...and believe me, they are extant!

So, I suggest you carefully read pages 41-43 in James Pryse's "Adorers of Dionysos," and see if you can't suss out why it's like it is. And remember, though most channeled material is nothing more than the reflections of the individual outpoured as their own contemplations, there is more to it than that, as I've related above. And only the Clear Sensing of the Sacred-Divine, as Purity, can penetrate the obscurity of that which is presented, especially the much-mistrusted channelings (and deservedly so due to inherent error).

The quandary, and its answer, as presented by James Pryse, have here been presented in his own words. No one can save another. The Penetralia is the Gift of Wisdom. The lower realms of matter-astral-lowmind are Predatorial of Necessity (3rd-4th-cusp-5th dimensions). These are Divine Forces of evolution, often called the 'razor's edge.'
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You have presented a quote of some justice in its statement, but did not offer the entirety of the intended message, which crux is now revealed.

Avendar's Quetzalcoatl-guided Visions bear some serious pondering, I can assure you.

[vladmir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
George Carlin - Religion is bullshit. - YouTube

Just something to lighten the mood!

[lyghtkynge]

George Carlin has the gist of it, calling it Bullshit. Dung was named as the most valuable substance in the hsitory of the Earth on a tv specal a few months back (discovery or science channel).

Everything dies into the previous & subsequent levels...to be Recycled until a Higher Essence than the System that gave Birth to It is Achieved (capital 'A'). Religion is mostly just simple recycling of indestructible substance-energy: in a few cases, a Release is attained, but this is quite rare, due to the Divine Nature being able to Extend Container Fields of ItSelf near-infinitely, before eventual Collapse (ing upon ItSelf).

There is the Higher Road, that of Conscious-Awareness Will-Choice, of Intentfully seeking & attaining Truth of Any Given Container System. It is best described as Bands-Within-Bands. Release from the Playing Field is referred to as the Second Death...this is BeComing A Full Player with All Priveleges, which is not attainable under an unconscious Order, such as that of a worshipful system, which depends upon an External conscious-Awareness for the Required Release...Full Release cannot be had Except As the Self-Withn Achieves it's own Release, which I refer to as Denouement of the Cycle of Light.

In the meantime, mankind-humanity, will have either to hope to ride the shirt-tails of some 'higher god,' or be recycled eternally. These Recycled states of substance-energy actually take inconceivable proportions, that of immense 'waiting-in-line' periods as systems change-exchange cycles-phases.

So, Geo. Carlin had it right in recognizing the Unconscious State, sans adequate vertical Awareness development. Most his audience enjoyed laughing at themselves, or at others who they perceived 'trapped within the stupidity-idiocy' of such perverse-unconscious states of 'beliefs.' Unfortunately, they are also trapped within these systems, under ungiven names. The Perfective Work is purely Painful, for it is enduring the Fires without losing Sobriety, required for Continual Self-Motivating Effort.

I call it a near hopeless condition, but have ceased to speak of it, for I realize that there is no release, except as the self chooses it's own release. At this time, the Fires Become Hotter-Colder, not to mention that your old friends are trying to kill you now as well for having deserted them to their ways.

Alone...All-One, As One. The Evolution becomes conscious, then Self-Aware; then, after a long climb, Aware-of-One-Self. Here I Speak.

I once had a friend, we were 15-16. We decided to 'Run for the Presidency' of a herd of cows on my great uncle's farm. Never forgot this! The cattle just stood there, eating hay, and I began my speech. Crap (is right!), no cows paid any attention to me! I had a feeling I was gonna lose the election. I finished and my friend began his speech! Such Oratory! I would even have voted for him! The cows honestly turned to him, some lifting their heads up for awhile as he spoke to them, telling them of the benefits of his policies. He had quite a captive audience (we were all listening attentively). When he finished, they continued to stare, then went back to eating & drinking. We both agreed he would likely be elected.

He's one of them today. I became an Eagle.

He eats their meat; I do not. Do they enjoy greater benefit with him, or myself?

I assure each & all, that I raise the Entire System by Flying Out The Top, which Lifts It Up in an Inexplicable manner...whereas they will merely become like him, someday. And the System will Collapse Upon ItSelf, for only the Quintessence can Save ItSelf, being the Above-below, Without-Within. The system will eventually be raised by All efforts, including being annexed by a Higher Field next closest to itself, failing Its Own Achievement.
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. . . . . . . . "We shoulda elected George Carlin when we had the chance."

[vladmir]

Brilliant post from start to finish lyghtkynge.
http://web.mit.edu/ryangray/Public/Gnus/thumbs_up.jpg

George Carlin has the gist of it, calling it Bullshit. Dung was named as the most valuable substance in the hsitory of the Earth on a tv specal a few months back (discovery or science channel).
It might be this one, All About Dung
Those interested can watch the documentary online here:
http://www.documentary-log.com/d57-all-about-dung/


In the meantime, mankind-humanity, will have either to hope to ride the shirt-tails of some 'higher god,' or be recycled eternally. These Recycled states of substance-energy actually take inconceivable proportions, that of immense 'waiting-in-line' periods as systems change-exchange cycles-phases.

So, Geo. Carlin had it right in recognizing the Unconscious State, sans adequate vertical Awareness development. Most his audience enjoyed laughing at themselves, or at others who they perceived 'trapped within the stupidity-idiocy' of such perverse-unconscious states of 'beliefs.' Unfortunately, they are also trapped within these systems, under ungiven names. The Perfective Work is purely Painful, for it is enduring the Fires without losing Sobriety, required for Continual Self-Motivating Effort.


I once had a friend, we were 15-16. We decided to 'Run for the Presidency' of a herd of cows on my great uncle's farm. Never forgot this! The cattle just stood there, eating hay, and I began my speech. Crap (is right!), no cows paid any attention to me! I had a feeling I was gonna lose the election. I finished and my friend began his speech! Such Oratory! I would even have voted for him! The cows honestly turned to him, some lifting their heads up for awhile as he spoke to them, telling them of the benefits of his policies. He had quite a captive audience (we were all listening attentively). When he finished, they continued to stare, then went back to eating & drinking. We both agreed he would likely be elected.
(Bold emphasis mine)
Figuratively speaking, thats a ....
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[vladmir]

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A couple of pics from the book above.

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Hmm, well reminds me of Walter Russell's works.....
he definitely was onto something...;)
'Third time's the charm'?
These are images one may use to contemplate the properties of Walter Russell's Cosmology of "Twin Opposing Electro-Magnetic Vortices".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsPrudLFGZk
Walter Russell Vortex Video: The Cosmology of Twin Opposing Electro-Magnetic Vortices - YouTube

[lyghtkynge]

A couple Truths as given by Walter Russell from his 1947 work,
"The Secret of Light:"

LIGHT DOES NOT TRAVEL
"Light only seems to travel. It is but one more of the countless illusions caused by wave motion. Waves of the ocean seem to traverse the ocean but they only appear to do so, for waves are pistons in the universal engines, and pistons operate up and down. Wave pistons of light, or of the ocean, operate radially and spirally inward and outward, toward and away from gravity.
. .Waves of light do not travel. They reproduce each other from wave field to wave field of space. The planes of zero curvature which bound all wave fields act as mirrors to reflect light from one field into another. This sets up an appearance of light as travelling, which is pure illusion.
. .The sunlight we feel upon our bodies is not actual light from the sun. What actually is happening is that the sun is reproducing its own condition on the earth by extending the reproductions out through cold space into ever enlargening wave fields until those reproductions begin to converge again toward our center of gravity into ever smaller wave fields. The heat we feel and the light we see are dependent entirely upon the ability of the wave fields to reproduce the light and heat, and that ability is conditioned upon the amount of moisture in the atmosphere.
. ."If there were no moisture in the atmosphere, our bodies would carbonize from the heat thus reproduced. One cannot consistently think of that heat as direct rays of the sun, for that same sunlight was intensely cold through the immensely expanded wave fields of space between the sun and the earth.
. ."The light and heat which appear to come from the star or sun have never left the star or sun."
("The Secret of Light," Walter Russell, pgs. 169-170; 1947)

"Spirit can be imagined as
. a vortex or a whirlpool."

If you'll bear in mind the Solar System pictured in the previous post (vladmir's), you'll be able to contemplate the nature of this communication with less difficulty, and the nature of the Mirrors Within Mirrors Effect that Transposes the I-Mage of the Creative Forces that Impinge Upon All extant...and you may also Extend this Understanding to the Invisible Influences that Surround the Self, unknown to most.
http://www.gcsescience.com/Solar-System.gif

[purple rain]

I heard the Willis radio interview. Interesting stuff.

LK, are you saying in short that anyone who depends on a saviour is doomed or does 'riding a higher God's shirt tails' work? Exactly what happens on 'release'? Is it like the Buddhist concept, because that doesn't seem so desirable.

'self chooses it's own release.' Well I know lots of people who despite their life experiences make no move towards understanding the state they're in, and they have no spiritual curiosity (or about other things either).

[lyghtkynge]

I heard the Willis radio interview. Interesting stuff.

Glad to know you got to listen to the Jerry & Kathy Wills interview! In the light of day, most people can only understand & believe in cash, comfort and concrete...but that changes when the Night Side of Nature takes over, and their mind's & belief's stretch a little. As I've shown, there are Two Sources Operating In Duality! Catch a Ride with your soul-Spirit. Belief Enages this energy, which has been stolen from the mind of the masses (Goddess Source-Force).

LK, are you saying in short that anyone who depends on a saviour is doomed or does 'riding a higher God's shirt tails' work? Exactly what happens on 'release'? Is it like the Buddhist concept, because that doesn't seem so desirable.

'self chooses it's own release.' Well I know lots of people who despite their life experiences make no move towards understanding the state they're in, and they have no spiritual curiosity (or about other things either).

So, then these 'Spiritual Truths' don't exist for them; doesn't mean they don't exist as the REAL Side of Creation...this is the 'Pure Illusion,' which words Walter Russell used in his 'Light Does Not Travel' quote (given above). Dan White (I think is his name), stated that the 'energy node frequencies' 'exist' because they are 'here' 'blinking on & off.' Reminds me of this nice guy I used to speak to [another forum] who said, when I told him about Creation being a hologram, 'this chair is Real! this desk is Real!' [he was sitting on/at]. He later learned within his-Self that what I conveyed to him was the Basis of 'Reality'...and he was a Professional Ghost Hunter! See how we must pound Truth Into the self with no Direct Knowledge of It? Awesome.

Forget those people with no spiritual cares or concerns...they will be carefully recycled and given all the assistance they need, though their path will take perhaps thousands of more lifetimes, and in-between these opportunities, many millions of years...for Earth is about to have a Sign placed upon it: ""Closed." No more reincarnation here...but other Sphere's will bring opportunity. When Earth shuts down is unknown, but the Soul-Spirit Within has determined to Escape...and humanity does not count, for It's 'Goodbye.' Cosmic Energies are Conspiring against humanity (as Convergence of Forces).

Making the Passage of Transition will take Alternate Courses for the different kinds of people. Most are Doomed to be Recycled in the Soul-Pool of the Creational Material World, for it is an Inescapable Trap [hard to get out of as I've shown]. Those who escape can ride on their 'god's' shirt-tails via Love, a Fallen State of Unconsciousness, and Reap Their Rewards in the New Home or Stasis-Womb the 'god's [Rulers/Guardians/Gardeners] have Pre-Prepared for them, as in a 'Seed Vault,' like humans do during great potential catasrophe throughout Earth's history (happening this moment: seed vaults].

Some will Escape via the Brilliance Connected to their Inherent Brilliance: this is called, also, The Clear Light, which is the Instantaneous Completion of the Life Cycles...Cycle of Light...when, upon sudden loss of the physical vehicle, even the 'not quite ready' can Achieve via Conscious Will-Choice, to Leave Matter Behind Forever. This means, goodbye Tom & Susy, mom, dad, brother, sister, wife-husband, Earth-Nature-animals, seas & skies, loves forgotten & unforgotten, which has been the only experiences known for many hundreds of individual incarnations over millions of space-time cycles...goodbye forever & ever. Few will choose the Brilliance Opportunity, for It Is The Leap Into the Beyond Above-Within, and is Too Much for even the more aware soul-spirits. Most who develop a kindling soul-spirit conscious-Awareness will just enter into the 4th-[cusp]-5th Stasis-Field or New Womb Awaiting them....This Passage is Dual...it can be done via high, near-pure levels of Love, or conscious-Awareness Development, which, will be virtually Automatic. However, bear in Heart-Mind, it is just a Fancier Restaurant...where the menu (you) get's more priveleges before Consumption...this is the Land of the SuperHeroes, goddesses & gods, Still In Training, and within their hearts, Crueler Than Ever, like their 'masters' [now in personal contact!]. These Are the Ultra-Universal Invader Reptilian Aliens who's Super-Imposed I-Mage has Conquered the Local Universe! The Melchizedeks. Bad news? Change It...or try...even if you die. Escape! Don Juan & his Lineage have stated that he/they Accept No Contracts that they did not take personal part in! This is Your Truth! Screw the cattle, for they have attempted to screw Creation in an unsavory manner.

Passing Through the Eye of The Vortex (5th Full), or The Eye 'I' of S/He, will bring UnDreamed & Inconceivable Power-Truth~Love-Wisdom as One (Many In One). This is where All were meant to travel Straight Through To, but have been Self-Detained Along their Journey [with the help of the Dark Masters! already present, waiting for them!]...and have forgotten the Truth Promise of the New Home...this is called the Fall Into Matter, when, If they had Passed Their Fireman's Test, they would have known only the Kiss of Matter, and become Awesome Immortal Goddesses & Gods Before the Pearl of Infinity.

Those who understand me (making the complex 'simple' to conceive via stated Truth), generally just say they 'don't think they are ready.' This means they are not Ready to leave materiality behind Forever. Are You?

No?
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/E7CQSCA486IF1CAIR6Q3VCA2A3Q3JCAF-1.jpg
Guess what Happens if you Fail The Fireman's Repeat Test again, at this Space-Time? Millions of Years of Unconscious ReStart...for those who Come Back, eventually (remember that part, 'after say, 1000 years' of 'holding'?) into Matter-Reincarnation again, Will Do So Within A Different, Younger, More Unevolved-Inexperienced-Spirit-of-Life Planetary Spirit! Gaia will have 'Ascended' (Goodluck, Gaia!)...and a New Condition for the Game where soul-spirits can Incarnate again, will be starting out with their new Step-Sister[-brother]. Who will 'give the life,' but Itself be close to little more than an animal-like Planetary soul-spirit.

Hard to understand? Harder to believe? This material is generally beyond the children present on these types of forums...Indeed, the knowledge itself is so fantasy-like that they write even Truth Off as error...But Truth Will Out...from the Slower State of 'deadness,' which it has Inhabited as Purity Incarnate. The Daughter-Son Will Rise As One!

What is behind the scenes is so overwhelming that the minds of humanity would be blasted at the knowledge of it. They are babies-in-spiritual-Birthing, and remember, even Spirit Kills! Who do you think is Commanding Creation? Mother-Father, Matter-Spirit, the Divine Lovers Enclothed With their Daughter-Son Condition...Right In Front of Your Face, a Hair's-Breath from you! Speak! Awesome?

This picture shows the Three + One States, albeit Incomplete & missing the Fifth.
It is a masterpiece beyond the general understanding of the herd: if the masses understood it, they'd lay down their weapons against one-another, and Obey The Law of The Pre-Existant WORD.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/babay-0.jpg
"The Prophet of Jehovih said: A time shall come when the earth shall travel in the roadway of the firmament, and so great a light will be therein that the vortex of the earth shall burst, even as a whirlwind bursteth, and lo and behold, the whole earth shall be scattered and gone, as if nothing had been. But ere the time cometh, My etherean hosts shall have redeemed man from sin. Nor shall the inhabitants of the earth marry, for the time of begetting will be at an end. Even as certain species of animals have failed to propagate, and have become extinct, so shall it be with man. The earth will have fulfilled it's labor, and it's services will be no more under the sun. But the vortex of the sun shall be round, and the body of the great Serpent coiled up. In the place where the earth was, shall some of my far-off worlds come and fulfill the labor allotted to them. And the atmosphereans who have not been redeemed from darkness in that day, shall alight on the new world and also fulfill their labor." [OAHSPE, 1884]

This Knowledge is well-known to those of a Certain Level of consicous-Awareness.
See my next post, a Return to the Saucer.

[hypha]

A couple Truths as given by Walter Russell from his 1947 work,
"The Secret of Light:"

LIGHT DOES NOT TRAVEL
"Light only seems to travel. It is but one more of the countless illusions caused by wave motion. Waves of the ocean seem to traverse the ocean but they only appear to do so, for waves are pistons in the universal engines, and pistons operate up and down. Wave pistons of light, or of the ocean, operate radially and spirally inward and outward, toward and away from gravity.
. .Waves of light do not travel. They reproduce each other from wave field to wave field of space. The planes of zero curvature which bound all wave fields act as mirrors to reflect light from one field into another. This sets up an appearance of light as travelling, which is pure illusion.
. .The sunlight we feel upon our bodies is not actual light from the sun. What actually is happening is that the sun is reproducing its own condition on the earth by extending the reproductions out through cold space into ever enlargening wave fields until those reproductions begin to converge again toward our center of gravity into ever smaller wave fields. The heat we feel and the light we see are dependent entirely upon the ability of the wave fields to reproduce the light and heat, and that ability is conditioned upon the amount of moisture in the atmosphere.
. ."If there were no moisture in the atmosphere, our bodies would carbonize from the heat thus reproduced. One cannot consistently think of that heat as direct rays of the sun, for that same sunlight was intensely cold through the immensely expanded wave fields of space between the sun and the earth.
. ."The light and heat which appear to come from the star or sun have never left the star or sun."
("The Secret of Light," Walter Russell, pgs. 169-170; 1947)

"Spirit can be imagined as
. a vortex or a whirlpool."

If you'll bear in mind the Solar System pictured in the previous post (vladmir's), you'll be able to contemplate the nature of this communication with less difficulty, and the nature of the Mirrors Within Mirrors Effect that Transposes the I-Mage of the Creative Forces that Impinge Upon All extant...and you may also Extend this Understanding to the Invisible Influences that Surround the Self, unknown to most.
http://www.gcsescience.com/Solar-System.gif

I like this x

[lyghtkynge]

Adults Only (go to sleep, children, it's past your 'conscious' time).

On this thread, "Saucer Trip to The Source of Creation," a number have made posts that pose as obvious 'giggling, tittering, hee-heeing' mockery of the Opening Post, having to do with the Sex-Seats of the Saucer Ship, and the strange Unioning of the Four Forces (+) involved in the Operation of the Ship, which utilized the Sexual Energies of the male-female pilots.

Many have scoffed, cackled, and haw-hawed at the 'ridiculousness' of it.
At this time, either pay close attention, or pick up your Dunce Caps at the back of the classroom, and take your Dunce Seats, for you are children Before Men & Women.

. . . . ...Time for Another Lesson.
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/cosmic-creation.jpg

. ..From the OP:
"It is strange, but its intent is slightly different. The UaRians live within a non-ordinary sphere. You must make an adjustment here and it will not be easy. Your training in Sorcery has been to utilize ordinary things in a non-ordinary way. This is one example of how you are asked to adjust to an alien civilizations orientation."

I watched as Janyl sat down on the strange phallic protrusion. She seemed to go into sexual ecstasy. As she did she immediately shifted into the energy body. She sent out impulses to me to join her. Master Q instructed me upon the use of the seat.

"Yes, you must insert your penis inside the orifice. The only other instructions that I need tell is not to ejaculate. If you do you will not have enough energy to get anywhere."

I sat down upon the seat fitting my penis into the orifice contained there beneath me. As soon as I did I felt strange sensations flow through of a sexual nature. I was on the verge of orgasm and ejaculation when the crystal skull instructed me to raise and maintain the sensation by my intent. As I focused upon doing that I shifted into the energy body. My assemblage point became apparent as I utilized the energy that I felt between my hands to maintain the focus of energy. I felt the timeship move and take off as I focused my intent to raise and maintain the energy and awareness of the assemblage point.

If you please, look Now at what your Elite masters, the Illuminati, knew to do, which you children have not comprehended:

"Note the phallic ball within a fountain (of fertility) within many circles, all within a major sun symbol. Also note the phallic symbols in the actual sides/windows of the bottoms of the WTC towers."
. . Did you ever wonder why there was despite there being 6 (and then 7) buildings in the complex? It seems quite obvious that those towers were massive phallic symbols. Did you ever wonder why there was only one antennae when there was 2 towers? Take a good look, the North Tower antennae is a phallic symbol and the top of the South Tower represents its opposite (female organ).
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/IgnoranceIsntbliss/BLOGS/wtcpyramids/wtcre.jpg
http://www.tiredofbeingalive.com/read/pyramid_human_sacrifice.htm

You are Controlled by Your Own Ignorance (& Innocence).

All those who understand now, may remove your Dunce Caps...
the rest, Keep Them On...they fit you well.

[vladmir]

The serpent, the king, the tiger, the stinging wasp, the small child, the dog owned by other people, and the fool:
these seven ought not to be awakened from sleep.
Chānakya (Sanskrit: चाणक्य Cāṇakya) (c. 350–283 BCE).

[purple rain]

[QUOTE]Making the Passage of Transition will take Alternate Courses for the different kinds of people. Most are Doomed to be Recycled in the Soul-Pool of the Creational Material World, for it is an Inescapable Trap [hard to get out of as I've shown]. Those who escape can ride on their 'god's' shirt-tails via Love, a Fallen State of Unconsciousness, and Reap Their Rewards in the New Home or Stasis-Womb the 'god's [Rulers/Guardians/Gardeners] have Pre-Prepared for them, as in a 'Seed Vault,' like humans do during great potential catasrophe throughout Earth's history (happening this moment: seed vaults].

We've all come through the same thing haven't we? Does everyone in a soul group evolve together or do individuals move on?



Some will Escape via the Brilliance Connected to their Inherent Brilliance: this is called, also, The Clear Light, which is the Instantaneous Completion of the Life Cycles...Cycle of Light...when, upon sudden loss of the physical vehicle, even the 'not quite ready' can Achieve via Conscious Will-Choice, to Leave Matter Behind Forever.

Is this is a simple matter of willing it after death, or does one have to work at it like some do meditation?


Most who develop a kindling soul-spirit conscious-Awareness will just enter into the 4th-[cusp]-5th Stasis-Field or New Womb Awaiting them....This Passage is Dual...it can be done via high, near-pure levels of Love, or conscious-Awareness Development, which, will be virtually Automatic. However, bear in Heart-Mind, it is just a Fancier Restaurant...where the menu (you) get's more priveleges before Consumption...this is the Land of the SuperHeroes, goddesses & gods, Still In Training, and within their hearts, Crueler Than Ever, like their 'masters' [now in personal contact!]. These Are the Ultra-Universal Invader Reptilian Aliens who's Super-Imposed I-Mage has Conquered the Local Universe! The Melchizedeks. Bad news? Change It...or try...even if you die. Escape! Don Juan & his Lineage have stated that he/they Accept No Contracts that they did not take personal part in! This is Your Truth! Screw the cattle, for they have attempted to screw Creation in an unsavory manner.

Have people in the past automatically made it into the 4th dimension on death or is this something that still lies in the future?

How come no one from higher dimensions is doing anything about the guardians/rulers?


No?
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/E7CQSCA486IF1CAIR6Q3VCA2A3Q3JCAF-1.jpg
Guess what Happens if you Fail The Fireman's Repeat Test again, at this Space-Time? Millions of Years of Unconscious ReStart...for those who Come Back, eventually (remember that part, 'after say, 1000 years' of 'holding'?) into Matter-Reincarnation again, Will Do So Within A Different, Younger, More Unevolved-Inexperienced-Spirit-of-Life Planetary Spirit! Gaia will have 'Ascended' (Goodluck, Gaia!)...and a New Condition for the Game where soul-spirits can Incarnate again, will be starting out with their new Step-Sister[-brother]. Who will 'give the life,' but Itself be close to little more than an animal-like Planetary soul-spirit.

Therefore people will lose all the spiritual advancement already gained till the present?

[lyghtkynge]

1) We've all come through the same thing haven't we? Does everyone in a soul group evolve together or do individuals move on?

2) Is this is a simple matter of willing it after death, or does one have to work at it like some do meditation?

3) Have people in the past automatically made it into the 4th dimension on death or is this something that still lies in the future?

4) How come no one from higher dimensions is doing anything about the guardians/rulers?

5) Therefore people will lose all the spiritual advancement already gained till the present?

1) Individuals can proceed ahead; difficult.

2) See 'Catching the Clear Light' in "Dark Masters", earlier part of thread.

3) Once was not so hard; Dual Barrier Seals have sealed this off via jealous Intent; under jurisdiction of the Ancient Elders (Final Choice). Universal. More to it. You are not what you once were.

4) They are...coaxing doesn't work, so they keep destroying the 'fixed' Game Rules.

5) Many once were gods; now, they are 'technological slaves. Put the two & two together, and understand, the Planetary Spirit Rules the Issue. Look at the Issue of Gaia...and how she 'is' under duress...then imagine an entirely animalistic Planetary Spirit of Life, and the Life s/he issues forth...

Once Gaia is Gone, many will not be so 'smart' as they think they are today. They are being 'Emanated' through, and do not realize this. Look at the Solar System...you are the Universe, captured in a tiny aspectualized container. You are a Monster of universal Power, but have been taken and Bottled. Melchizedeks. Now you know just how powerful they are. "Real." It is not I who have lost my senses. You cannot convince the insane that they are not 'normal', until they begin to be healed. Slowly, they Perceive Truth.

[lyghtkynge]

Fall of The Logos (YOUniverse)

Eloy ~ OCEAN
Prologue
Eloy - Poseidon&#39;s Creation - PART II. - YouTube
Worlds atomize and oceans evaporate in eternity!
Man erects out of the darkness,
laughs into the glimmering light and disappears...

Poseidon's Creation
Eloy - Poseidon&#39;s Creation - PART I. - YouTube

When the mighty sons of the spheres beyond
distributed the elements of earth
they laid down the foundation-stone
of highest spiritual birth
which ever existed since thousands of years
but is lost now in the future and past
lightyears away from our daily tears
those unperceived moments which always last

Poseidon became lord of earthquake and seas
master of oceans and all their wealth
god of an island, there lived a family
with a daughter of beauty and health

Atlantis was the island's name
greatest treasury of all times
human eyes didn't ever see the same
silver and gold, fertile hills, woodlands and plains
it was situated in front of the strait
they call "The Columns of Herakles"

Kleito was the daughter's name
a princely virgin of clearness and love
so Poseidon fell in love with her
and built a shrine on the mountains above

Incarnation of Logos
Eloy-Incarnation Of Logos (Ocean) - YouTube
No native soil, no ocean, no salty wave
no sky above
no living being
no movement, no colours, no elements
no eye to see anything- complete emptiness
Before all was nothing?

The moon, companion of the sun,
touching celestial globe, motionless starry sky
the planets don't know where to move
they are unaware of puissance and of hope
Intrinsic virtues awake!

All of a sudden appears a light,
horizons open wide
voices fill the air
And The Gods Made Love!
The layers tremble and raise in staggering
and words transform into flesh and blood

The act of uppermost magic has begun
impulses working on and on
movement here and there
Vibrations Move The Atmosphere!

Transcendental forces penetrate
the planet we call Earth
and all spheres of the universe
All the elements burst!

A warm powerful breeze inspires inanimate matter
and a creature, shaky reeling on two legs
extends it's hands shivering against the sky
Primary procreation is accomplished!

MAN arises out of dusty clouds
eyes are staring all around
ears are noticing unknown sounds
legs are pounding on the ground

Now MAN knows he's not alone
so his hands take up the stone
anxiety to hold his own
fighting for the creatures throne

MAN forms tribes to enlarge his chance
to survive the primeval living-dance
the strongest ones fight for leadership
and by these fights they attain the grip
on the weaker ones who become suppressed
by their violence so are we possessed
by the same ideas in a world
that's full of fears and tears and "progresses".

surrounded by a golden wall
and inside he placed his holy law

Son of god and daughter of earth
they created ten sons, human creatures
who've been of supreme beings at birth
of pure essence and perfect features
what a divine possibility to overcome evil
so listen what man did!

Decay Of Logos
ELOY - Decay Of Logos - YouTube
Overbearing secular creature
my worshipped king
king of wisdom and pain!

You are the one, the mighty one
ruling so wise
you're the universal sin!

Guardian of justice
offering help
favorite victim of your self-made gods!

Four-continent-king
empty shroud
who runs to the indigents aid!

Oh my perfect hero!
Ah my mighty friend!

You're the prince of principle
wiping out disobedience with your might,
autocratic might!
You don't stand for backtalk
so you root it all out by your weapon's light,
the Atomar light!

You are born into your violence
and you live against superior truth!
You are born to live the ignorance
and you're proud to kill your spiritual youth!

From the upper sea of the setting sun
you submit all mankind to toe the line!
You commit your frightful arms
against the palaces and treasures of our mind.

That's why your should remember
the duty that's required by your life.
Or is it true that you did surrender
your possibility to survive?

In taper indented triangles
sterilized drops of blood
are wildly raving along and their shadows -
they are crossing my horizon!
Concrete becomes liquid, sweats along
and pours along through my legs - Alright!
Extensive feverish stuff.
Rough surface - murderous red!
Even in the air,
which is still gliding quiet,
quiet and understandable!
I feel the slippery, whispering,
rainy dead end street.
Hanging deep above the vaporing sea!
The final signal for low truth approaches!
Fear did die?
Vanity - insanity, warm, hot and true,
who cut the enemy down? We are betrayed!

That's why you should remember
the duty that's required by your life,
by our life!
Or is it true that you did surrender
our possibility to survive?
You play with all our life!

Atlantis' Agony At June 5th 8498, 13 P.M. Gregorian Earthtime
Atlantis Agony - Eloy Cover by Poseidon´s Creation - YouTube
And so the gods decided:
great is the fear for you,
when your eye takes the field against those
who tried to raise against you.
Make your eye go down
and strike the mutineers with disaster.
The eye shouldn't rest in your forehead,
now it has to go down as "Hat-Hor"...
... And the eye of "RE" mounts down
from his divine brow - down there on Earth
and strikes them with disaster...

Spirits darken the sky!
The divine guided missile is on it's way,
and it's especially directed by:
"Emnasut" - first genius of the Sun-sphere
"Gomah" - first genius of the Venus-sphere
"Ebvap" - first genius of the Moon-sphere
"Aschmunadai" - first genius of the Earth-sphere

We do not know, but they do, and they remember:
A liquid fire appears in the sky
The flash of life is radiating
The flash of death - we're surrendered
It's light shines! Shine on!
It's light shines! Shine on!

Mind power made the rocks sink,
and by this power the mass of stones will surface again!
Legends kept the secret of their wisdom
and soon it will all be revealed,
soon it all will be revealed

We are a particle in the ocean
lost and safe like a tear,
we are born and lost in the ocean
where is mercy with our fear?!
http://www.dragonjazz.com/progrock3/eloy/ocean_b.jpg

[makemyday]

Existance is about sex, the unification of two major opposite powers in Universe [male and female, ying and yang, life and death, alpha and omega]


Though there is the fact, that sex should be sacred action opening gates to Universe within AND there is more common opposited thing - the perverted sex.

As we walk the thin line, we must balance ourselves so we don't get perverted and obsessed with flesh sex, though everywhere you go, you can see that "sacredness", or rituality of it is vanishing... The excession of ANYTHING, in my opinion, leads to personal degradation.

Be concentrated, I still think there is much more new awaiting for us to know about this... ;):D

[vladmir]

http://image.ebook30.com/data_images/2009/08/03/1249294620-41vegeggvhl.jpg
The Stellar Man Hermetic Philosophy, Book Two By John Baines.
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Excerpts:
"Due to the lack of a state of higher awareness, the planet Earth is a small hell, where by divine grace or infernal evil, the individual neither notices nor evaluates his precarious condition or the cloudiness of his awareness.
Like true madmen, each sapiens, like Don Quixote, the Castilian nobleman, strikes out against his own windmill.
Thus, battle after battle, youth is lost, illusions die, purity withers, and the last glimmers of lucidity gradually disappear.

If we were perverse Gods or immoral despoilers, we could not invent a better method to make a group of slaves work peacefully than to make them believe, by means of collective hypnosis, that they are happy and important.
We would then have perfect robots who would work untiringly, producing what we desire.



In addition, these robots would make and maintain themselves.
It could be argued that sapiens, unlike other species, sows, produces, and labors only for himself and not for other beings.
This is true for the products and material sapiens uses for his own maintenance.
No nonhuman species steals the material product of sapiens' efforts.
On the other hand, this is not the case with the subtle fruit produced by the human nervous system in everyday life.



This fruit is rapidly reaped by certain beings who are much higher on the evolutionary scale than the human being; veritable Gods of space, who profit from human efforts, but in turn fulfill certain cosmic functions and occupy an important position in the universal economy.
These beings have been mentioned previously: they are the Archons of Destiny.
We could also refer to them as Gods of the Zodiac, as they direct and govern human existence on this planet.



When we speak of true astrology, we do not refer to radiations from a specific planet, but to the influence of the Zodiacal Gods, each one of which (there are 72 in all) has personal and defined characteristics, influencing the people they control in a strange way.

All of Earth's inhabitants are under the sway of one or more of these Gods, who regulate, shape, and direct the destiny of humanity. But this is not so for the destiny of the Hermeticist, who attains his vital autonomy at a certain moment, releasing himself from the mandate of the Archons.

The Archons of Destiny are terrifying beings, not because they are evil, but due to their cold and inexorable severity in the manipulation of sapiens.
If we were to establish a symbol for these beings, no doubt they would be depicted with a whip in their hands, a girdle of bristles or netted wire with which they chastise humanity in order to ensure their progress, although this evolution may be imperceptible during our earthly time.



For example these occult judges pitilessly provoke a world war in which millions of people die. For them, these dead are of no more importance than that assigned by sapiens to the thousands of animals they sacrifice daily in order to feed.

Sapiens, in his extreme fight for existence and in his various relations with the natural and social environments surrounding him, inevitably experiences all kinds of tribulations, suffering, deceptions, and other experiences, both pleasant and unpleasant.
As a consequence, his emotional and nervous systems develop certain embodied elements, that are extremely powerful, and which abandon the human body in the form of vibrations (everything vibrates; matter is only vibratory energy).



These vibrations are transmitted through antennae incorporated in the biological unit which are tuned to the frequency of the Archons, who then reap this power and use it for purposes we cannot divulge, again stating that they accomplish a cosmic function.

It is thus that sapiens is unwittingly stripped of the most noble product he has produced; the final distillate of human experience, the broth in which lies the blood, the soul, and the very life of the individual.
The individual lived for this, suffered, loved, enjoyed, worked, built things, went to war, studied, investigated, only to prepare the golden broth of his life. We must understand that the central computer only exists in relation to the Archons of Destiny as an instrument to control sapiens.

The object of life, the reason for which sapiens was created, is not for him to enjoy life in the garden of the Lord, but rather to be a pawn in his vineyards, a worker so perfect he can act as cultivator and food at the same time.

If man could prevent his golden broth from being stolen, with this vital product he could become equal to the Gods, rapidly evolving by integrating within himself the products from the chemical laboratory of his physical body. This is exactly what is done by the student of Hermeticism, who is temporarily freed by the Archons of Destiny.



This individual, by virtue of his understanding and responsibility, has no need for an overseer with whip in hand to oblige him to evolve through suffering, as he takes responsibility for his evolution into his own hands, and if he deems it necessary, submits himself to the same temporary suffering in order to attain eternal happiness.
This is in contrast to the profane or worldly person who chooses fleeting pleasure at the expense of eternal suffering.

If the student fails or turns aside from his path, abusing his temporary freedom, the Archons again take him under their control, punishing him very severely.

From another point of view, we can see how certain countries are chosen by the Archons for veritable martyrdom.
Furthermore, one should not believe that this suffering is futile, as such a sacrifice generally brings about a moral, material, spiritual, and intellectual revival of the population by virtue of the law of suffering.
So it is that after wars we notice a rapid rebirth toward a higher state.
This is a high price to pay for evolution.
These wars could have been avoided had there been sufficient clearheaded people in the world who the masses would have been willing to follow.

Enough revealing of secrets which are hidden from sapiens.



Let us spread a cloak of silence on this subject in order to comply with the mandate of the esoteric Sphinx who demands silence. Speech and silence are two swords, which must be handled with sublime skill in order not to disrupt universal harmony.
Those who have "eyes to see" will understand everything not stated in the written word, but in the cryptic language of the initiate.



For those not in this state, it is best that they understand nothing and continue to sleep tranquilly.
Ultimately, the Archons run no risk of a bad harvest from a possible rebellion of sapiens. Sapiens is too blind to see where the danger is really found.

It is sad to observe the tremendous limitation of sapiens, who shuts himself up in the small world of stereotypical concepts, of memorized knowledge, of imitation, and mechanisms of compensation and defense.

His mental disability prevents him from realizing just how small the cubicle is which imprisons him.
And, thus, with a mind made up in advance, he accepts, condemns, or tolerates without bothering to intelligently analyze the situations with which he is confronted."

[codie]

I love this thread. It's threads like this that made me join this forum.

Thank you. :)

[lyghtkynge]

The Sheath Creates The Shaft.

NOTHING-All

Being-Presence.

The Pre-Existant WORD.

Magnetic Preceeds Electric. Always.

(Feminine Preceeds Masculine. Always.)

The Presence cannot become Sentient of ItSelf, without The Pre-Existant Substance to Become Aware Of. NOTHING is not Nothing. Surprise!

"The creation account that appears in the first chapter of Genesis is probably one of the most misunderstood creation myths to have ever been read by man. The reason is very simple. Every creative day that appears in the Genesis Chapter 1 ends with words “And the evening and the morning were the ___ day.” I am surprised that it has never crossed believers in the Bible as to Why “evening” would proceed “morning?” Another question that would arise is how could there be an evening and morning even before the Sun and Moon appeared? Evidently this term evening and morning was symbolic in meaning."

Symbols Are Made Flesh.

I have to answer myself, for nobody is there.

[lyghtkynge]

A couple days ago I received an offer to my private email to 'learn the teachings of don Juan.' Of course, I declined, as I had already had a Full helping of such. I was a bit surprised that there were still people trying to pass this material around, when it seems to have 'gone stale' on the internet in general & forums in particular, even though I realzie there are sites dedicated to discussing the topics presented by Carlos Castaneda. But by and large, most of the cattle...er, people, just ignore the material. They are so wise, aren't they/you?

Carlos' was Tapped on the shoulder directly by Gaia, so that you might become Aware of where she was 'Going.' Few caught the drift.

Now, let's entertain the Impossible for a few moments in this post:

"The idea that I concocted a person like don Juan is inconceivable.
He is hardly the kind of figure my European intellectual tradition would have led me to invent. The truth is much stranger. I wasn't even prepared to make the changes in my life that my association with don Juan involved."
http://www.nagualism.com/carlos-castaneda-interview-psychology-today.html


I'm not going to get into the discussion about 'who' don Juan really was, though on the www there are many such contemplations & arguments. This is one that won't be resolved for the duration. That he was 'a living somebody' there is no doubt. Carlos was never flexible enough of spirit to have known even a fraction the material he wrote about, regardless of his purported 'considerable reading.'

And there are Things Out There, that I have Directly Encountered, that bear the Truth of the Teachings, many of which I entertained before Carlos ever got around to writing about them. Now, so I don't bore you all to death, let's see what Carlos had to say about this:

"Many times during that afternoon, Castaneda had to insist that he was just a contact to the world. All the knowledge of the books belongs to the Toltec nation. In the presence of his insistence, I couldn't but react and tell him that the labor of arranging the material from notes into coherent and well organized book must have been immense and difficult.

"No, responded Castaneda. I don't have any work. My task consists, simply, in copying the page which is given me in dreams.

"I see each page in dreams, and the success of each one of those pages depends on the degree of fidelity with which I am capable of copying that model from the dream. Precisely, the page which impresses or impacts most is that in which I have achieved reproducing the original with most exactitude."
http://www.nagualism.com/you-only-live-twice.html

I have previously repeated his statement, given many times:

"I invented nothing."
.Carlos Castaneda

Perhaps some should take advantage of the much maligned writings, for they were attacked by the status quo, your true Masters, Those who raise you in their Gardens for consumption...for your animal-soul energy is delicious. You eat animals? So do They, in a different way.

[purple rain]

Stellar Man is a good book, thanks for posting.


Carlos' was Tapped on the shoulder directly by Gaia, so that you might become Aware of where she was 'Going.' Few caught the drift.


Is Gaia still around, what about this idea that Satan and Christ have replaced it?

[lyghtkynge]

Is Gaia still around, what about this idea that Satan and Christ have replaced it?

I tend not to use the terms satan or christ, for I conisder the first misleading, and the second as the same as the first, just spelled differently: two faces to the same coin.

I call the Emancipation Principle Lucifer-Christos, which is as good as any to use with western understanding. Many mythologies, many names. I can't get them all right for everyone, especially since those of one region have many terms for the same expressions!

Insofar as what you call satan-christ, I called Satan-Jehovih, the flip/reverse of Lucifer-Christos. The Satan-Jehovih substance-energies are Generational, whereas the Lucifer-Christos substance-energies are ReGenerational (Immortalizing Forces).

But I am responding to your most interesting way of expressing your question!

Gaia has been Captured, and is under Domination of the SuperImposition Forces which have over-ridden the Command of the Local Planetary Spirit (Gaia): In case you haven't gotten this far, or read my two threads, Galaxies Eat Galaxies...and Gaia, the Higher-Life-Spirit of Planet Earth, has been Taken, and is now being Cut-Up for Food by the Masters who have plundered Her Body (Planet Earth). Notice how earth has been ravaged by these ruthless, merciless, greedy masters, the planetary spoilers? All the while They speak of Love and how you should rpactice it blindly....love, love, love. As a matter of Principle, Everything Is Love...which must be Lifted to Purified Power to be of any use to thsoe who choose Emancipation. Not easy to do. My thread, 'The Hatred of All Life,' explains this rather clearly.

They not only spoil planets, but all energies, including the soulic energies. In order for Gaia to Assist her Life-spawn (life forms in general), with Her Higher Spiritual Potentials, she must Descend Into Matter to a very Deep Level, which she has done. And while Spirit cannot be Taken By Force, Soul can Because of Imperfection...!Gaia is not perfect, or wouldn't be 'ascending,' or raising vibrational levels.

No life would exist on Earth beyond the bestial state without Gaia, for her Counterparts are all animal, with no spiritual factors except as those of the dull light of the evolutionary forces, which are virtually nil (takes millions of years without spiritual intercession).

So, you have pretty much answered your own question...there are Invaders Present. Takes a real genius to figure this out....you know, a human with at least the ability to not defecate in it's pants. But I understand, confusion is confusion, and it confuses most everyone, especially the neverending Conspirator, who, without Knowledge of Principle, can never truly know anything except that of the physical (atomicity, which includes the astral fields)...with all its intrinsic potentials, hidden within!

Gaia is under attack...just like in those fantasy movies. It's most intense at the Center. You can help...She feels quite deserted right now, by all those who she gave Higher Life Awareness to, and who have taken her Gift and then turned from her, like the whores & savages they are, unredeemed. It is the way of children to destroy, before they learn to Create...which will be quite the millions of years hence, no matter what they believe when they enter the Stasis Field of the Invader Aliens.

That which seems small & localized, is in no way the case. You are in a Role-Playing Game, and you have never won...because it's Fixed. Study don Juans' words (not Carlos), and you'll find that the Goal is not to Change Frequencies (worlds), but Become All Frequencies Simultaneously. This will help Gaia, for She has no Help...surrounded by Traitors & Betrayers on all sides...and no Good is Ever Lost...if it be Truly Good (Pure).

[purple rain]

I wasn't clear there, by Satan I meant Jehovah. It's just something I read in the Baines book about earth being a dwelling for both Christ and Jehovah. In the past I would said that there were evil forces present but I wasn't aware of the existence of a planetary spirit. Makes sense to me. Gaia isn't the Christ consciousness is she?

Does being all frequencies mean "physically" inhabiting different worlds? I'm going to read some of Casteneda stuff (if that's where Don Juan's stuff is).

[vladmir]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512cT0u5ybL._SS500_.jpg
pg. 201
"THE UNBORN DESTROYER
The goddess Tara may be understood as the benevolent aspect of the unborn Destroyer, who is but the flipside of the unborn Creator.

These two perspectives of the same set of cosmic shells represent the descending and ascending forms of cosmic wisdom, respectively.

When awareness descends into creation, it enlivens progressively the seven shells in descending order so that the qualities of the previous higher shell are added to the qualities of the subsequent lower shell.

In this way there is a progressive building of the qualities that give rise to the appearance of creation.
In this case, the seven shells may be viewed as the seven aspects of the unborn Creator.
To go beyond the universe, the awareness must ascend through the seven shells. In this case, the reverse holds true. As awareness ascends through the seven shells the qualities that uphold the appearance of the created universe are stripped. As a result, the created reality of the universe appears to undergo progressive dissolution or destruction, rather than progressive creation.
The seven shells may then be viewed as the seven aspects of the unborn Destroyer. In order to attain true immortality, the ascending soul must come face to face with the unborn Destroyer.

This particular form of God is terrifying even to those enlightened souls that cannot otherwise be threatened by anything in the created Universe.

One of the most colorful descriptions of this terrible form of God is presented in the eleventh chapter of the Bhagavad Gita, which is but a small part of a much larger Vedic text called the Mahabharata.
In the Bhagavad Gita, the hero Arjuna (representing the enlightened soul) is given a vision of the Unborn Destroyer.
Here, the monstrous, cosmic form of God, which pervades the space between heaven and earth, is described as devouring mercilessly all the worlds. In his cosmic vision, Arjuna cries out:
“With infinite power, without beginning, middle or end, with innumerable arms, moon and sun-eyed, I see thee, with thy blazing oblation-eating mouth, burning al this universe with thine own radiance. This space between heaven and earth is pervaded by thee alone in all directions. Seeing this, thy marvelous and terrible form, the created words tremble, O Great Being…..Having seen thy cosmic form, which has many arms, thighs, and feet, which has many bellies, and the mouths of which gape with many tusks,…….the worlds tremble, and so do I……Having seen Thu mouths, bearing many tusks, glowing like the fires of universal destruction, I lose my sense of direction, and I do not find comfort. Have mercy, O Lord of gods, Dwelling of the universe!.......As moths enter the blazing flame to their destruction with great speed, so also, to their destruction, the worlds swiftly enter thy mouths.”

In one sense, this passage should not be taken literally. The Sanskrit terms translated as “arms”, “thighs”, “bellies”, “mouths”, “tusks”, “eyes”, and so forth have multiple complementary and technical meanings related to the types of reality experienced on the scale of the seven cosmic shells.

Yet in another sense, the description of the dissolution of the universe experienced by the soul is quite literal.
As the soul ascends through the seven cosmic shells, it experiences the universe and everything in it as being dissolved or destroyed as if by a great conflagration or flood.
All the worlds of light and life that have served as its home for billions of years, as well as all the beings that dwell in those worlds, are witnessed as being consumed by the fiery mouths of God and reduced into oblivion.
This shakes the soul to its very core, and makes it tremble in fear.

In the Upanishads, it is said that all of the celestial gods-that is the planets, stars, and galaxies-stay their course out of fear of God.

Whereas the celestial gods view the born Creator as their preserver and maintainer, they view the higher, unborn form of God, the being associated with the seven shells, as the cosmic Destroyer, and they tremble in fear lest they be destroyed and reduced to oblivion by transgressing his will.

Yet the Upanishads also state that all forms of fear are born out of the conception of another, which appears to be different from the self.

Because the other unborn form of God is viewed as alien to the created appearance of the universe, all of the celestial gods and even the enlightened souls tremble in fear of his presence-for he has the potential to destroy all created souls and reduce them to a state of spiritual oblivion whether or not they are enlightened.
Nevertheless, to achieve true immortality, the enlightened souls must be willing to face its deepest fear and off itself into the fiery mouth of the unborn Destroyer, at which point the created aspect of the soul is drowned, burned to ashes, ripped to shreds, and reduced absolutely to oblivion. This amounts to a cosmic form of spiritual death or ritual suicide, which results in the death of death itself."

Its not all bleak, it gets really interesting from here on in the book.
These above excerpt i typed out dosen't do it justice.
One has to read it for himself.
Remember, part of the title of the book is 'The Sacred Science Of Immortality'. :)

Narasimha avatar of VISHNU.
http://blogs.epicindia.com/bhagavatam/images/narasimha2.jpg

[lyghtkynge]

I wasn't clear there, by Satan I meant Jehovah. It's just something I read in the Baines book about earth being a dwelling for both Christ and Jehovah. In the past I would said that there were evil forces present but I wasn't aware of the existence of a planetary spirit. Makes sense to me. Gaia isn't the Christ consciousness is she?

Does being all frequencies mean "physically" inhabiting different worlds? I'm going to read some of Casteneda stuff (if that's where Don Juan's stuff is).

No, Gaia is not the , erm, 'christ' consciousness. It is an evolutionary spirit on the next rung of creation, which all will pass through...yes, that means you.

The Cosmic Consciousness is the 10th State of Conscious-Awareness, the Last State of Achievement in Atomicity (pre-&-atomic states of matter). Manifestation of the Dual All-NOTHING Being-Presence ('One') Potentiates The Fall. This is called 'staying behind.' The Manifested Universe Represents the Unmanifested Potenial/Potency of the Pearl Infinity. Those who stay behind (within locality) are Represented by the Manifested as Symbol (Planets, Stars, Solar Systems, Galactic Formations, seen & unseen, Universes). Beyond this (not 'staying behind') is Represented by ABSOLUTE NOTHINGNESS...as only NOTHING can do so. Remember, NOTHING is not Nothing. It is also not 'Something,' except for the Hidden One Shape...which not one person has intimated any knowledge of, anywhere...This is why the Naga called such Knowing, 'Futuretense.' Believe me, reading a book, and/or having mystical experiences (kundalini, the LifeForce Upflow), does not the All-Knowing make Within...It is not called 'Infinite' just because someone thinks they have become 'infinite knowledge.' It is Unending Infinity, just as it sounds.

All Frequencies(/Bands) does not imply physical occupation, anymore than you are physical at this moment...you are a 'child of this womb' (Earth), and hence, to Superceed this 'created' state/condition, only the passage to a Higher-Denser Realm will enable the Equivalation Potential to 'occupy physically.' It's All's Illusion, and anything is possible. All Bands means All-Knowing, Being-Presence Potential/Potency. It is quite complicated, and has to do with the AEthyr-Ether plasm-plasmic Forms/Formlessness of Create. It is no different than 'buying another game,' because you got tired of the old one.

What I am conveying here, is that the Game must be Superceeded, whence achieved, you will feel an Impossible-to-Resist Impulsion to become a Game-Creator YourSelf. 'Everybody' does it, just like everybody 'falls' the 'first time.'

Of course, such an aspect is a bit overwhelming, for it is comfy in the Wombs of the Created Realm (4-Stage: 3-Phase, 1-Shift).

The don Juan works Superceed all the myths & teachings of the past, having been Synthesized into a New State...which is now extant upon the face of this planet, and available to anyone. Please begin reading books 4-up, forgetting the first 3 until these latter volumes have been perused. The Shamanic Knowledge is the Embodiment of Terrestrial(Earth)-Cosmic Wisdom, whereas the birthing of this knowledge, the Eastern Tradition, is now dead...(reborn in the Embodied Shamanism).

You can see some of the archaic forms of confusion in the ancient/archaic statements of the 'how to become immortal in 7 easy lessons by reading this book and using only your reason' post previous to this one (not mine).

The I-Mage is what you are Commanded (by the Pre-Existant WORD) TO Superceed...yes, this includes All-NOTHING...for NOTHING must be Conquered via Intent-Will, or S/He cannot Manifest Potential/Potency, except as seed that bears no fruit. You are that Fruit. Stand Up to the Horror of NOTHING. Btw, NOTHING is Dual, Pre-Existant.

I intentfully do not reveal what should be attained by The Self, for without this attainment, such inner knowledge is no different than taking drugs for knowledge & enlightenment...when your drugs run out, so do you...though you will have inched forward just a little. Make the Effort via the Self Within. I hint at how this is possible, but never reveal publically.

And watch your ego...even fake sincerity, as you have posted in your new thread, will Out...and all will know you for a fool...(with your knapsack on your back, having just said goobye to mom-dad at the door, journey beginning).

Failure to take Creation seriously/humorously, will keep you on the 'scenic route' forever.

[lyghtkynge]

Reply to post 198:

"Mommy, daddy, what does 'Without-Within' mean? What does 'S/He' mean?"

It means what Itzhak Bentov attempted to relate in his Egg Unvierse video presentation, linked throughout this thread, and the 'Dark Masters' thread. As I have said, keep your One Eye on the Center...pay no attention to anything else, at least for one viewing of it (hunt for the video if any care).

The Pre-Preparation for The Passage is taught by the Shamanic Tradition of Death & Dismemberment & ReAssembling the Self, which any 'mystical' schoolkid (student) knows.

And I might Add:

Reading a book on 'how to achieve immortality in 7 easy lessons', is a matter of employing the Reason, which will attain nothing but a tickle of the curiosity. And even if the Intuition is attained & used (direct knowledge), it also, is useless without being coupled to Reason.

I get a kick out of people who think they can read a book on immortality, and the next thing you know, they think they have achieved immortality. Its called the Last Defense of Ego...which is utterly Insane (reversed-inverted to Truth).

Everything Within The Womb of Creation is the LifeForce UpFlow Expression Manifesting either as Duality or Polarity. Walter Russell conveyed this with Absolute Clarity in his Dual-Flow of Time description. The Invisible Alter Flow, the Influx DownFlow, is The Initial Impetus of Intrinsic Intelligence. NOTHING is not Nothing.

The Command is to Defy the Devourer to the last moment, and then The Sacrifice. You will be Judged by the All-NOTHING.

And the term-statement, 'thinks it alien to itself,' because it seems outside itself, is the hilarious buffoonery of the Ignorant & Innocent:

"Mommy, what does 'Without-Within' mean?"

"Gee, honey, I think it means that there's something or Nothing out there, beyond everything we know or can think of. And It was nice enough to Encapsulate ItSelf in the form of Universes, kind of like where you came from, my Womb. They say it can only be met from Within you.

"I get it Mommy!"

Too bad the Ignorant and Innocent are so ego-blinded, they think they have discovered some secret knowledge. Even kids can know this stuff. ROFL.
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From the Naga [via The WORD], the Primordial Essence, the AEthyr, remains Coupled to the New Created State, The Ethyr. Though there is now a New Creation, the old remains as Part of the Pre-Existant WORD. EverAll Become EverMoreAll. Notice the 'Ever' & the 'All' are still present...all that is added to the Old, is the 'More' of the New...which take Ascendance.

The professor smiles. "You are now going from the seminar room out into real life. There you won't be asked whether you have carefully analyzed Plato, but whether you can be a useful member of the State in the sense of the platonic polis. Hardly any of you will have occasion in his profession to work with tangents and pi's. Forget the rules and laws--but never forget that you have had the opportunity, through the laws of mathematics, to glimpse the great universal laws; and remember that these laws are valid even where we do not yet have formulas. "Forget the sentences that you had to memorize; but remember that their meaning has now become second nature to you. It is in the forgetting of the mechanical process that the effect of real knowing is produced. Now the mind is completely free and can give full attention to its own self. If you still feel the need to have recourse to the first three stages, you are not ready for the fourth stage. You are ready only when all your spiritual efforts are devoted to this fourth stage. Once again, forget the teachings, for now you have experience. Let us begin:"

"I now will speak of samadhi, which conquers death and which leads to bliss and union with Brahman. --Raja yoga, samadhi, unmani, manomani, immortality, dissolution, empti-ness-but-not-emptiness, the highest state, passivity of the intellect, non-dualism, beginninglessness, purity, liberation in this lifetime, the primordial state, and turiya (the Fourth State), all these are synonyms. --Just as a grain of salt dissolves in water and becomes one with it, so also in samadhi there occurs the union of mind with atman. Mind dissolves in breath and breath subsides. Both become one in samadhi. This state of equilibrium results from the union of the jivatman and the paramatman. When mind thus is calm we are in samadhi."

[nectars]

Check out "Hypsoconsciousness" by Baines as well, it has more practical exersizes and less philosophy. Philosphy is fine but it doesn't bring as concrete results. Not so much my thing anymore but he has some interesting ideas.

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[lyghtkynge]

Check out "Hypsoconsciousness" by Baines as well, it has more practical exersizes and less philosophy. Philosphy is fine but it doesn't bring as concrete results. Not so much my thing anymore but he has some interesting ideas.

http://www.amazon.com/Hypsoconsciousness-Techniques-Achieving-Personal-Success/dp/1882692020

Application of Right Knowledge is The Method. Period.

For your information, I'll tell you what happens via books & drugs and error ideas:

Here are the Reversed Energetic Constructs of Awareness:

Theology - Science . . . (And their Bastard OffSpring:)

Philosophy - Magic/Mysticism

These are the Reversed-Inverted Energetic Disciplines of conscious-Awareness, which reap what they sow.

Mankind is not ready for Truth, Pure, Raw, Unshrouded by the Cushioning Mists of Illusion/Self-Deception.

These always deliver sprinklings of Truth, which are the True Addictions of mankind, unknown to them....but only in savory doses.

So, once you overcome the dogma presented by theology, and the mindless machinations of science which has no morality, you are left with the 'more advanced' practices of philosophies & magicisms.

What I have conveyed is Truth...This should be Applied, for It, and It Alone (All One), Delivers Truth to the lower & Higher Soul, Enshrining the Spirit Within-Without.

And kindly, do not ignore the Without, which is carefully Hidden from the sight of man the magician.

I know you were talking about Baines, but Baines has much to learn. Direct Knowing Superceeds the Systems of belief that are extended, being the Gleaning of Spirit in Direct Contact as the Prime Archetypes of the Pre-Existant WORD. That's right, non-emanated. ...Pre-Existant...Baines is a follower-advocate of your Enemy, the Saviors/Rulers of Mankind, the Melchizedeks. Or didn't you know that? They are Responsible for what you and all mankind have experienced as the SuperImposed I-Mage of 'low-truth.' Sure, They sprinkle Truth in, as I have explained.

Not one on this forum has truly understood that They have founded all world religions/controlling belief-structures. Some understand them as the 'new age' movement...They are the Rulers/Guardians/Gardeners of mankind & the Local Universe.

If mankind truly understood, they would Know NOTHING. Instead, they fawn upon these Dark Masters. And as was said not too many posts back, 'everything is fine...you are being consumed for a good purpose.' As I have said in my thread, "Youniverse...A Mothers Story," you would do well to Know which I-Mage you Choose to be Consumed & ReBorn Within. That way, you will Be Guided by Infinite Truth...not the Melchizedeks. See the pretty sananda-jesu, the lovely pontiff, the gorgeous commander ashtar & ilk (ad infinitum)? These are the Images of consciousness that are Projected Upon Mankind in their Ignorance & Innocence. And they call Baines a 'master.' Don Juan had an explanation for that: "I know of no masters. I am equal to everything."

Please take careful note:

"Mere intellectual assent to an historical record does
not make the grave a door to heaven, or constitute
Death the unveiler of Life eternal. True knowledge,
the direct perception of things spiritual, comes only
when right-conduct is followed, and the outer nature
of man attuned to the inner and divine nature. The
physical body cannot become immortal, nor does
the mere disintegration of the body of flesh open the
way to immortality. It is the Truth alone that makes
man free; and the Truth is not to be known through
blind credulity or through contention about beliefs."
(James Pryse)

Utilization of deception is considered spiritual betrayal.
Seeking 'Concrete' results is disadvised, unless you just desire Temporal power.

True Power is Accrued via Knowing Truth, and Truth Alone (All One).
It will be mostly Imperceptible, but will Steal Upon You As Living Wisdom.

Forget powers, siddhis, and occult strength...these are things of the Material kingdom, which Include both the Physical & the Astral-(All Levels, psychic & superpsychic)...these will assure a Return Ride through the Scenic Forest of Thorns.

I do not advocate the statements of other posters on this thread...children will say anything, for their minds whirl with fantasies that seem so real. Peace and such: There is 'war in heaven'...The I-Mage Is The Prize.

[truthseeker08]

What I am conveying here, is that the Game must be Superceeded, whence achieved, you will feel an Impossible-to-Resist Impulsion to become a Game-Creator YourSelf.
Interesting thread, been following it for a while.
I cant help but realize the contradiction here, that is, you are talking about the 'Unknowable' not being possible to be realized by our intellect/intuition 'down here', but yet you, a flesh and bone individual, claim to know this very Unknowable. (whatever-it-is).
All because you apparently encountered this 'Naga', (which is fine, i dont disbelieve ya).

So, everybody else on this thread and this forum are idiots,
and only you and the Naga know the truth and can express it.:rolleyes:

Basically you are saying that you have surpassed all the knowledge of the ancient seers and mystics of the world,
and actually they didnt know anything about this great revelation made to you by this Naga, back in 1984.
Did you meet him anytime after that 7 day encounter?
I guess not, because you already figured out the whole secret of all the Universes!! There is no new knowledge that can now be added to your 'insights'!
It rocks to be you!

Do you even realize how you sound like an arrogant know-it-all?
I bet you dont. :)
I think everybody needs growing up, and yes that includes you too. :eek:

[lyghtkynge]

Interesting thread, been following it for a while.
I cant help but realize the contradiction here, that is, you are talking about the 'Unknowable' not being possible to be realized by our intellect/intuition 'down here', but yet you, a flesh and bone individual, claim to know this very Unknowable. (whatever-it-is).
All because you apparently encountered this 'Naga', (which is fine, i dont disbelieve ya).

So, everybody else on this thread and this forum are idiots,
and only you and the Naga know the truth and can express it.:rolleyes:

Basically you are saying that you have surpassed all the knowledge of the ancient seers and mystics of the world,
and actually they didnt know anything about this great revelation made to you by this Naga, back in 1984.
Did you meet him anytime after that 7 day encounter?
I guess not, because you already figured out the whole secret of all the Universes!! There is no new knowledge that can now be added to your 'insights'!
It rocks to be you!

Do you even realize how you sound like an arrogant know-it-all?
I bet you dont. :)
I think everybody needs growing up, and yes that includes you too. :eek:
Pay attention, half-wit human:

Yes, I take it upon myself to be your Sacrifice! At least you're 'smart' enough to realize the Unknowable is under discussion (Third State of Attention), and not the Unknown. You are inclined to hate, loathe, and detest any with such knowledge, as part of the Law of the WORD. It's not just the message that irks you, it's me...I got an email yesterday from a person who told me they were glad they didn't Reject me. One of the few...for I reject everyone else via Testing.

Strange how the Prime Archetypic Spirit is Unapproachable...'Shy'...cannot be 'caught'...nor 'forced.' And no, you are not following this thread, for I am the thread. You are following everybody else, laddy. I get you're kind real regular-like...filled with disdain and ego. I Burn ego off. Now, let's address your 'non-idiot' status, shall we?

The Unknowable can only be 'seen' via the Mother/Goddess State, that of the Dreaming Self. I don't suppose the Naga could do that, do you? ROFL. One of us is mad, and I suggest you look carefully before calling the cards. Time is short, and I don't have time to woo & goo your destroyer kind (babies & kids of 4th Principle) with neg.-love false kindness...you can find a couple like that on the Carlos Castaneda-dedicated forums, who are knowlegeable, tolerant & patient. I am not.

It is my Intent to make effort to Jar any who come near my communications from the Father-designation, even if they go mad (most do) or die badly-within because of it. I have explained this many times: "What is the risk of death compared to the possibility of Freedom?" [Avendar Dragon]

And regarding the Naga...sorry, this 'male-appearing' Teacher of Mankind rouses a lot of hatred, as is normal with the westerner regarding nasty serpents n such.

A whole subforums-group went on the attack against 'the naga' over at ats...because some twisted little fearful person (like yourself) couldn't handle the Truth. Turns out, the person who began the attack was badly warped (possible incipient mental illness, which no one is impervious to). And this person was counter-attacked by many. I never came out of it smelling like a rose, but won 3-4 over to my communications.

Don't presume to understand the Nagas, until you've met one or two. First off, I've encountered people who 'thought' they met nagas, but described everything but what One is. So, I stand Alone (All One). And you obviously have serious issues with yourself, presuming mankind is 'in the know.'

I suggest you remove your ego (like you can), and re-read the material I have presented...even the one who claimed to be 'voiding ego' here on this thread, took a walk on the dark side with me, and because of the impurities inherent, became badly twisted in the Lyght. Don't worry, you're entirely safe....shouldn't you be worshipping jesus or buddha or atheism, or somesuch? You obviously are walking where there are many pits, and have just fallen into one...yourself.

I am not as you and others. Any idiot can perceive that...either stay in your fearful closet, or make sure you're fortified with vitamin 'P.' Or you'll get Burnt here.

And sorry I offended your fav, buried in the depths of unregenerate white light, which, upon any pressure, exudes equal & opposite black light.

My posts do not unravel to reason, which is all you've got, or you would know better than to respond as you have. Look at the genius of mankind, utterly possessed (that's what 'genius' means, genius)...I Stand Alone. The others who teach 'light' teach their Master's teachings & Ways...the Melchizedeks, about which you know negative-nothing. Who can change this, A-Void some from the Stasis-Womb they are being electric cattle prodded-herded into? I told purple rain that I spoke to perhaps 2-4 people: you're not one of them. Believe me, they're out there, which I happen to know with certainty...but cannot come forward because of your kind, the idiots of the world & all it holds dear.

Only two posters are presenting material on this thread, fav and myself. One of them is human.

You're reading the thread...what a laugh. Your gossiping in your mind....within your closet womb (couldn't understand that?).

Hang tight, I'm about to present a picture of what you can't comprehend, and it ain't 'peace.' I'm going to make it excruciatingly simple, so brave humans like you can see your reflection.

[lyghtkynge]

. . . . . . ..NOTHING - All
..http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/440px-Odin55.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/polarityL.jpg
"Taking shape in earth, Woden was tall and gaunt, wrapped in a deep blue cloak whose hood darkened his gray-bearded face. The pool of darkness in his shadowed right eyesocket was a well of mystery; the left eye gleamed like starlight from the keen tip of a spear, matching the sharp glint of the rune-carved weapon whose ashen shaft he leaned upon."

"All these are Woden, the god of wod-fury and song, whom men of the Middle-Garth, lacking soul-sight, sense in the night wind rushing through the trees. Hoenir is his watery, mysterious mirror; Loki leaps from place to place, sputtering and sparking fire, a dangerous servant, a deadly master, but an indispensible companion. So the soul feels their mights." ("Rhinegold," Stephan Grundy)
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq357/dogz9/valhallayf9.jpg

Two Poles of Mind...Two Wings of Soul.

That's right, girls and boys, you have Two Sources...and don't bother choosing, you Already have at your Soul-Spirit Inception.

These are called the Duality. One is The Unknowable, and the Other, It's Mate, The Known-Unknown (Duality-Polarity) within Duality.

A little hard on the ol' head, eh? Just carry on...2, 3, 4 people will Grasp what is shown here...which I have conveyed from the Beginning. Since you cannot Grasp It, I have handed it to you...and, oh yes, It's just a bit deeper than your reason can handle. Careful, it not only can, but will warp or Fry your brain-pan, just as happened to Icarus.

This is why humanity is such a savage and slow evolver...When those like myself step forward to Alter the Course, you Resist Being Consumed by Truth. Careful who you Feed yourself to, as I have said & made thread. You are human...and you wait for 'something' or somebody' to change your course to the next Stage.

So Be It.

[vladmir]

I suggest you remove your ego (like you can), and re-read the material I have presented...even the one who calimed to be 'voiding ego' here on this thread, took a walk on the dark side with me, and because of the impurities inherent, became badly twisted in the Lyght.
lol, you can directly address me lk,
that way others may realize that you are talking to me, instead of them.
I dont mind your remarks at all. They are welcome.
'badly twisted' is a tad dramatic dont you think, but i guess it has a nice scary ring to it, plus it suits the thread, lets not forget!

[lyghtkynge]

lol, you can directly address me lk,
that way others may realize that you are talking to me, instead of them.
I dont mind your remarks at all. They are welcome.
'badly twisted' is a tad dramatic dont you think, but i guess it has a nice scary ring to it, plus it suits the thread, lets not forget!

Fool, you haven't even noticed due to the Cloud Covering over your Center of Consciousness, that I have been Honest, Forthright, and Open in my dealings with you. Not for the sake of kindness or 'twistings' did I once Coddle you with false niceties when you presented Error. Perhaps you should now look at the Flipside of this...

You Presented Deception due to Your Ego-power (being).

At least one of us is True; the other, yourself, cannot even admit your own Deceptiveness to yourself...and you apparently have not seen your Ego Thorns, as have I.

You are a joke unto yourself with your mystical desire...exactly as happened to the 'Illuminati,' each and all...and don't even know it, like a dumb Beast. Badly twisted would be a term most suitaby judged by The Sober, not the Sodden-by-Ego.

I was kind enough not to mention your username, but now you have the fame, and your hordes of 'yay-sayers,' which you know well is your Due, yes? (like all your kind on earth). We know which eye you use: Neither Right, nor Center.

Reminds me of how the Deception deceived the Deceivers, and became so twisted.

You can't even put two concepts together and make them One. Just like all of mankind, who are in the same pickled mess. Go back and read your posts & statements, then come forward...rather, let others...for Denial is the gift of Deception and Overwhelming Ego, yes? Didn't think you'd understand...you'd have to Know Yourself.

Shall we have a Look? (from November 28, 2009)
@ stanislav and lyghtkynge

I just noticed both of your posts, especially the quotes - totally mind-blowing.....
It had a ring of Truth to it that is not for the faint of heart...kinda scary, but fascinating, especially the rebellion part....but wayyy over my head, but cant avoid it, like a moth to a flame........I was wondering about the quotes from the book "Apprentice to a Death Defier: Part 1: Scales of the Dragon (Pt. 1)", and i am wondering if you have a pdf version of the said book, or perhaps an online edition......
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058443875&postcount=53
Now, here's your latest statement, deceiver:
'badly twisted' is a tad dramatic dont you think, but i guess it has a nice scary ring to it, plus it suits the thread, lets not forget!
Suddenly, the thread (this one) has a 'funniness' to it, which 'suits' being called 'dramatic, scary' 'let's not forget.'

You remind me of, er..uhm...Anakin Skywalker, confused within.

[lyghtkynge]

"In allusion to the fascist ideology of the 'authorities.' The Empire is the institution, the codification, of derangement; it is insane and imposes its insanity on us by violence, since its nature is a violent one." Philip K. Dick

Every-Thing is Inverted-Reversed To Spirit. What of Spirit? It is A Killer: does too much Sun kill? Of Course! Does Mother Nature kill? Yup....Shucks, we have a winner!

Let's look at this more closely for a second:

"Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality...." David Ellner

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic." James Dresden

"The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims. The most perfect slaves are, therefore, those which blissfully and unawaredly enslave themselves." James Dresden

"The only thing worse than a sheep, is a conspiracy sheep." purple rain

That's right, this means YOU(niverse).

YOUniverses in darkness, called light.

The Obvious is not the answer, and ego is your enemy. But you will find that Emptying the Cup of Life, Renews that self-same Cup...if you ever Gather the Courage to Spill a Drop. The Cup of YOU. (So much for 'sanity,' spread upon the Earth, and each and all exempt.)

I AM NOTHING.

[vladmir]

lol, once again you are left stranded on your own thread talking to walls,
and hearing your own echo.
History does indeed repeat itself, forum after forum with you. :)

I have already told you a while back via pm that i knew in dec. 2009 that Jan 30th will be the last date of my dealing with you and i couldn't have predicted a better sendoff! So thank you!

Good luck with getting anyone to forget their own intuition and their own heart,
and instead listen to you. ROFL.

It fine, you seem to enjoy festering in your own venom, so be it!
But please dont play the victim, its very unbecoming of a supposed elder.

(oooh, everybody is attacking me, waaaahh wahhhhhh, the same thing happened to me on ats, waaah waaaah.....)

All of us are ignorant fools according to you, and only you know the Truth.
And we should just shut up, and not have an opinion!
You make to much fuss really, this is just one forum in a million on the web, and out of the tens of thousands of threads, this is just one of them.
Thats it! Dont think too highly of yourself!


What I am conveying here, is that the Game must be Superceeded, whence achieved, you will feel an Impossible-to-Resist Impulsion to become a Game-Creator YourSelf.
:D So, thats it isint it.
You, want to play 'Creator God'.
You can huff and puff till you turn blue and wont be able to create an amoeba,
and you want to create solar systems and galaxies.....
thats how ridiculous your ego is, and you cant even see it.
And i and stan are the one's who are fools!? :D
Maybe to see the real fool you should look in a mirror.


Well for those curious to find out what is this uber secret that lk will 'reveal' to you, its simple.
I will save you all the drama.

Destroy all your Love in your heart, disregard it.
Love is weakness, and it is fallen.
Actually nobody on earth knows what Love is, its all rubbish.
Develop a hatred for all life, a real hatred, and if you dont have a hatred, cultivate it!
Dont may attention to your own intuition, disregard it totally.
And only follow what lk is saying, because only he knows the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Everybody else on the face of this earth is a fool and is ignorant and is deluded because they dont bow down to master lk.
Only lyghtkynge knows the way, the true true true true way.
Hilarious.

I am a sungazer, will remain a sungazer. :)
You lyghtkynge, can try to peddle your crap to someone else, im done and god riddance!

PS: To those reading, i was attracted to his crap at first, because i saw a rebellious viewpoint in his writings that appealed to me. I have now wisened up (never too late for that,lol), because what he really wants you to do, is destroy everything that you hold precious in life, all because he thinks this entire Universe is 'fallen' etc.
Its human to make mistakes, thats how you learn, and from lk i have learned what NOT to do.
On the other hand, lk thinks that he is NOT a human, but something else! lol, ok sure.
Take my advice, dont waste your breath or attention on his rantings, i did at one point, but now thankfully i know better.

“To become truly great, one has to stand with people, not above them.”

[lyghtkynge]

I am a sungazer, will remain a sungazer.
Yeah, your a worshipper of your self, alright, and have just proven it...along with your stupidity. Let's take a look into the past, shall we, before you became so 'learned'?
Vladimir first of all I would like to thank you very much for giving us the credit. Though you should give credit to lyghtkynge first and foremost. He is an incredible individual and it saddens my heart that people on this forum misunderstand his intent. If anything they should at least respect his 35+ years of research and experience. Also I only recently stumbled on one of his articles and without really completely comprehending what was exactly written in that one article an intense urge was bestowed upon me. The ring of truth that I could not deny! I had an urge to immediately express my gratitude towards him. I told him that he was my kind without really knowing why he was my kind but knowing that he indeed was. Now the more I begin to uncover of what he speaks about in his numerous posts I begun to realize that I have always belonged that that group of certain individuals. It's something that I can't explain other than an intense inner knowing. Even lyghtkynge doubted me at first but I knew better and I hope to prove him that I am worthy and that I can make him proud. It's too bad that we don't have more teachers of wisdom like lyghtkynge.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058443947&postcount=55
vladmir's response:
(bold emphasis mine)
Hi stanislav, lol this is so bizzare, i had the same reaction,
because i was taken aback in joy as to what i read in his posts in this thread,
i have seen them for the first time, im not very regular on these boards.
I was about to comment on what radio illuminati had very insightfully said, when i caught lyghtkynge's reply.
If you are a little sensitive,
you know when words have Power behind them,
they are magnetized in a certain peculiar way that you can pick up,
and thats what i sensed, that rarevibe immediately as i read his post,
and i was wondering,
"Wait a minute, who talks/writes like this..!!?? Whoever has written this.....whoa, these words have a delicious taste to them" lol

So thats why i mentioned scary and fascinating, because i was in awe of a post that i didnt fully intellectually understand,
but instinctively i was thrilled at what i was reading,
i knew there was something behind them, the intelligence that was writing it has got something.....
but im not sure if i want to get close to it, lol. But again, i do what to get close enough so that it can whisper in my ear,
but if im not prepared to recieve it, it can crack my mind....
Luckily, in my meditation practice, i am walking a path that is (at least) notoriously difficult to go astray from.
My avatar is a hint. ;)

Mind you, i canm imagine isomeone classifying his posts as 'crazy talk',......
But it isint. It makes so much sense that one becomes uncomfortable.
You and i both know it.
And its not naive and condescending either.

But i can easily see why both you and lyghtkynge will be viciously attacked by minds who are repelled by what they cant comprehend, not that there is anything lacking in them, but by virtue of the fact that their minds are crippled and in wheelchairs of their own making.....
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058444022&postcount=57
You go ahead with your crippled mind and roll around in your wheelchair of your own making, lad. You're not really with us...just a confused mind, lost in the wilderness. And I did call you a betrayer, now didn't I? **Tsk-tsk**

[lyghtkynge]

LyghtKynge

12. 1. 50.

Sagittarius


SAGITTARIUS
The Conscious Soul

True knowledge is a sacred thing
The highest prize that soul can gain
For Wisdom comes from God Herself
Each Holy thought is Golden Grain.

The man who knows that Earthly things
Are only shadows of the Real,
Is on his way to win a throne
He knows the truth that they conceal

Duality is understood
Like Shadow is the mate to Light
That spirit, matter are but One
Thus truths of life are clear and bright.

A Conscious Soul can guide the way
Through all the paths of Earthly strife
Avoid the snares and wicked things
Express Real Justice with his might.

His brother men with confidence
Can safely place their trust in him
For he will find and show a way
To reach the goal without a sin.

The mortal senses of his body
Are glad to help his soul to grow
They've learned how wise he truly is
He saves their strenght and grief and woe

The truths above will Light the path
If you but go the way they show
You'll win the goal you've truly sought
Be ever wiser as you grow.

Thought is like the hidden power
In some swiftly flowing water
Is always there for instant use
If you but guide its onward course.

Ever strive to climb up higher
In knowledge of the purer life
Then use your store of precious gold
To pave the path that leads from strife.

Arouse the men of greediness
To seek the source of such great wealth
Entice them from their sinful ways
And greatly aid their mental health.

(Tablets of AETH, T.H.Burgoyne)

[vladmir]

Yeah, your a worshipper of your self, alright, and have just proven it...along with your stupidity. Let's take a look into the past, shall we, before you became so 'learned'?

vladmir's response:

You go ahead with your crippled mind and roll around in your wheelchair of your own making, lad. You're not really with us...just a confused mind, lost in the wilderness. And I did call you a betrayer, now didn't I? **Tsk-tsk**

lol, yeah lyghtlynge, you got me! :rolleyes:
but there is a difference, i humbly submit!
A lot of water has since passed under the bridge.
The difference is our private conversations,
which as i am a man of my word, will remain private.
I came as a student in an attitude of learning to you,
and your solution was to strangle me and tell me its for my own good.
No thanks.

PS: As far as the 'betrayal' goes, well you yourself talk about betraying Mother Earth herself, the Sun and infact this entire Universe!! Good luck with that, like i said, you are not the only one who is in touch with his Inner Self. lol, There is a grand 'surprise' waiting for you also. ;)

“Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge,
he is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.”
Albert Einstein.

[lyghtkynge]

lol, yeah lyghtlynge, you got me! :rolleyes:
but there is a difference, i humbly submit!
A lot of water has since passed under the bridge.
The difference is our private conversations,
which as i am a man of my word, will remain private.
I came as a student, in an attitude of learning to you,
and your solution was to strangle me and tell me its for my own good.
No thanks.
Idiot, here on this thread, and my "Dark Masters" thread, as well as in personal communication, I have repeated many times not to believe anything, but to peruse, then do the validation of that information...which, you have failed in. Do you deny this? I take no prisoners, just tell it like it is...what I speak of is beyond most human's interest, that of the Second-Final Death Passage, which you and anyone can find referenced in post after post of mine. I expect people to get off their asses and prove what I indicate-communicate, just as I told novymir.

Water under the bridge does not count for stupidity. No one forced anything down your throat, so stop being a lair & deceiver...just face the Truth honestly, for once in your life, rather than weasel around it. I can batter your falsity all day non-stop...and we both know who's side the masses will choose, and why, now don't we? You're mind is actually quite fine, but your Inner Perception is as poor as it comes. And your judgement is faulty, as your empty accusations prove. You are living in the black & white, and I am Expressing the Silvered-Golden Lyght of the Center...you and most others just can't see it yet. There's one more stage beyond that...and I have also revealed that here in this thread, very difficult to accomplish.

Best piece of advice: Let go, as you asked me to do of you, which I did; and I accepted you after you came crawling back again. Let go...go worship your sun n have fun.

I AM NOTHING.

[vladmir]

http://www.techreaders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Self-Destruct-Button.jpg
LOL thanks for the advice lk, i will pass.

For all those listening, remember, with lk and his sorcery,
the light at the end of the tunnel,
is a freight train,
with him as the psycho driver.

Enjoy your delusion of being the 'creator' of new Universes! :rolleyes:
What a joke!

[lyghtkynge]

LOL thanks for the advice lk, i will pass.

For all those listening, remember, with lk and his sorcery,
the light at the end of the tunnel,
is a freight train,
with him as the psycho driver.

Enjoy your delusion of being the 'creator' of new Universes! :rolleyes:
What a joke!
Excellent. You can really deliver a bite, and twist around, too.
See what you have reduced your fine mind to, by your own failure and error? Ignorance & Innocence?

"...Enjoy your delusion of being the 'creator' of new Universes! "
These are your statements, not mine. What I said was there is a Creator Level, the Inner Garden, and the created Level, the Outer Garden. The communications I make are entirely relational to said achievement of passage from one to the other, whether you believe it possible or not. Do you understand anything?

Others do, also: thus, the well-traveled paradigm:
"...players and pieces..."

It's a concept, perhaps over your head or beyond your belief, but nevertheless, extant with sufficient force for anyone with a clear mind to perceive, on many levels.

[lyghtkynge]

Castaneda was a popular enough phenomenon for Time magazine to do a cover article on Castaneda on March 5, 1973 (Vol. 101 No. 10) that was five or six pages long.

"His fourth book, Tales of Power, ended with Castaneda leaping off a cliff marking his graduation from disciple to man of knowledge (actually a leap from the tonal into the unknown). Some writers thought this must necessarily mark the end of his series. They were very surprised to see he continued to produce more books. Despite an increasingly critical reception Castaneda continued to be very popular with the reading public. Twelve books by Castaneda have been published, and 3 videos released.

"In 1997 Castaneda launched a lawsuit against his ex-wife, Margaret Runyon Castaneda, over her book, 'A Magical Journey with Carlos Castaneda'; but this was dropped when Castaneda died.

"The official story is that Castaneda died on April 27, 1998 from liver cancer in Los Angeles. Little is known about his death. There was no public service, Castaneda was apparently cremated and the ashes were sent to Mexico.

"Castaneda's account of Toltec knowledge
There are three main elements to Castaneda's description of Toltec beliefs:

* a. mastery of awareness- nagual (2nd attention) and tonal (1st attention), art of dreaming, description of the seers perception of luminous energy and bubbles of energy around living things (luminous cocoon) and ultimately the source of these energetic lines which are consciousness itself.

* b. art of self-stalking- dealing with the world and actions in it.

* c. mastery of intent- dealing with the primary force of the universe or the spirit or the means to move the assemblage point.


"Castaneda's books can be read as a philosophical/pragmatical text that express a world view by which a person can live one's life. There is a movement world-wide of practitioners of this philosophy, applying Castaneda's published ideas either independently or through consultation with Castaneda's associates.

"This school of applied shamanism, sometimes called "nagualismo", purports to be unlike either traditional Western or Eastern culture. Castaneda's ideas, insofar as they can be called a "system", share some similarities with Eastern mysticism, Zen, Taoism, or Tibetan Buddhism in terms of the inherent order (or chaos) of the universe, disciplines taught and techniques used, but the underlying structure is fundamentally different.

"According to Castaneda, the most significant facts in a person's life are his possession of awareness and its impending termination at death. The primary goal of a Toltec "Warrior" is the continuation of his awareness after bodily death: to "dart past the Eagle and be free", in the words of the tradition, where the Eagle is the force which consumes the awareness of all living beings.

"To cheat death in this way requires all of the discipline and procedures that constitute the Warrior's way of life. These practices are devised to maximise the Warrior's personal power, or energy. The condition of not wasting this energy is known as "impeccability".

"Sufficient personal power leads to the mastery of awareness, chiefly the controlled movement of what is known as the "assemblage point". This is an artifact of the tradition's description of another world underlying what we perceive as ordinary reality. In this description men are glowing cocoons of awareness inhabiting a universe consisting of the Eagle's "emanations", described euphemistically as all-pervading filaments of light.

"Humans' cocoons are intersected throughout by these filaments, producing perception, but they filter our perceptions by concentrating on only a small bundle. The assemblage point is the focusing lens which selects from the emanations. In its accustomed position, the assemblage point produces what humans perceive as everyday, 'normal' reality. Movement of the assemblage point permits perception of the world in different ways; small movements lead to small changes in perception and large movements to radical changes. For example, dreaming is presented as the result of a movement of the assemblage point; "power plants" such as Peyote, used in the early stages of Castaneda's apprenticeship, produce powerfully altered states of mind through such movement.

"Castaneda describes complex and bizarre worlds experienced through the controlled movement of the assemblage point in dreaming; his premise is that the world of the dreams of a warrior is no less real than the world of daily life. This follows logically from the description of both worlds as being simply the result of positions of the assemblage point. He depicts complex interactions with unearthly beings in dream worlds and describes his fear of being physically trapped by these malicious but charismatic beings."
http://www.biblio.com/author_biographies/2008168/Carlos_Castaneda.html

[purple rain]

http://www.techreaders.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Self-Destruct-Button.jpg
LOL thanks for the advice lk, i will pass.

For all those listening, remember, with lk and his sorcery,
the light at the end of the tunnel,
is a freight train,
with him as the psycho driver.

Enjoy your delusion of being the 'creator' of new Universes! :rolleyes:
What a joke!


My aren't we enlightened. Let's take delusional Nazi rantings about the sun to heart. I've read about the benefits of sun gazing and there's probably a little more to it, but you're getting carried away.

Actually, you revealed yourself to be a twat right around here, and that was on the front page. I'm rarely wrong in my instinct about people.






Hi lyghtkynge, i think it is a huge step for individuals to begin to acknowledge that.
Just to be able to accept the possibility that humanity is itself being cultured by Beings/Entities/Controllers in a similar way that our scientists culture bacteria in a petri dish, thats a horrifying thought, but it actually makes sense!

My question is, what is the next step?
Does one examine all of ones beLIEfs and one by one discard the ones that are 'compromised'?
Who does one turn to? I mean, if i want to explain the SOLution to this to my friends, what do i say?

Edit: Behind the question is a selfish desire to make you post again in this thread! I dont care if its obvious!

[purple rain]

lol, once again you are left stranded on your own thread talking to walls,
and hearing your own echo.
History does indeed repeat itself, forum after forum with you. :)

Well if there's one thing I've learned through my many arguements online and off is that being a minority of one is never a bad thing. I've been banned from every single forum I've posted in and I expect this place will not be an exception at some point. Unfortunately some people just can't accept that some are smarter than others, which means some are smarter than you. Possibly not in every area... my ego isn't that huge that I don't accept any from even those I normally detest.


You can huff and puff till you turn blue and wont be able to create an amoeba,
and you want to create solar systems and galaxies.....
thats how ridiculous your ego is, and you cant even see it.

I don't know about LK, but if I get to a creator level I'd like to create a universe where entire galaxies swings to the best music there is. :cool:

I don't know where Arthur Clarke got his theories from but it always made sense to me. It isn't about ego, I would imagine Christ's comment about knowing oneself would take them far beyond this planet at the least.

Destroy all your Love in your heart, disregard it.
Love is weakness, and it is fallen.
Actually nobody on earth knows what Love is, its all rubbish.
Develop a hatred for all life, a real hatred, and if you dont have a hatred, cultivate it!
Dont may attention to your own intuition, disregard it totally.
And only follow what lk is saying, because only he knows the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Everybody else on the face of this earth is a fool and is ignorant and is deluded because they dont bow down to master lk.
Only lyghtkynge knows the way, the true true true true way.
Hilarious.

I don't think I know what love is truly because relationships end with every life one lives on earth.

PS: To those reading, i was attracted to his crap at first, because

you were a pretentious twat. :)

[tothestars]

There exists nothing outside of myself. No One need jump through lyghtkynes' hoops, or submit to some so-called "higher intelligence"-psuedo-authority "above" Oneself-- there is only THE ONE--- no aspect of ITSELF is superior to any other.
We are Creators right Now, RIGHT NOW We are Creating, he would reinforce the idea that we are weak and inferior, the condition that his "masters" are so desperate to maintain. THEY LIE, They promise to free Us, but to do so We must submit to them, and their dogma. And that is "freedom"?
The "egoless" is the possessed. The assimilated. By what? "Them". They offer the "Oneness" of The Borg.
Merkaba does not require destruction of "ego"Self, only realization/actualization of HigherSelf dual perspective=THE ALL THAT IS that We All Are. Now and always.
Those bound to Dogma cannot see beyond it. They cannot see the hate and duplicity, and deception within it. The controlled mind glosses over and blinds One to the True inspiration and meaning of the whole of it, ignoring the specific expressions of what I Am speaking of. They are there, I could point them out, but you could see them too, with a critical eye. Look at his other threads, why do you think I say what I do? "They" have expressed themselves through him, their true colors are revealed when they say that humanity and the Earth consciousness is the garbage and shit excreted from the "higher-realm", or that "LOVE" must be destroyed in order to destroy "hate"... Humanity are negatively equated with pigs, in a pigsty--The Earth...the majority of humanity are "swine", and "dogz"... While these "highest Beings" deny their own responsibility for the dysfunctional/insane state of this so-called "reality", if what he says were true, then they created what they presume to condemn. Hypocrites. He's selling snake-oil-poison. Do you "get-it" yet?
And I Am an agent of informed consent. I Am not ruled by fear, if I was, I would just submit to Them, end of story. I Am ruled by what is right for Me and THE WHOLE as informed by The Spirit Within and Everywhere..


Right said there Novymir :)

This is just another trollthread on Icke forum. I might be a bit mean by saying this but looking at all the trollthreads getting more and more desperate as time passes closer to the Shift starts to amuse me slightly (altho it saddens me a bit too).

The trolls lash out with their tentacles in desperation but they can't seem to find enough cracks to suck up low based energy to sustain their "existence" (and their dark masters). Your stay in the "non-time limbo" will very soon cease and no one will rescue you. Game over!

It's their free will of course, they choose their own path (it will idd for SURE not be very pleasant!). Anyway I will for sure ignore them.

Time to move along nothing more to see here tho.
:D

with Unconditional Love and Eternal Joy

[purple rain]

To what extent are people creating now? Sure you manifest things now and then if you know how, but if anyone can use that power to level Everest right now then I might be interested. How is an ant capable of making use of the 'I am all there is' adage? Thought so...

[vladmir]

I don't think I know what love is truly because relationships end with every life one lives on earth.



you were a pretentious twat. :)
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Your insights are exemplary as always purple rain, keep up the shit shoveling,
im sure you will find your pearl.
Dont let me stop you please! Enjoy!
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[vladmir]

Actually, you revealed yourself to be a twat right around here, and that was on the front page.
lol, there is no 'around here'. This forum isnt an actual place out in the real world.
Just giving you some much needed perspective on reality versus the fictitious reality in your mind.
I will let you get back to your whining now, carry on.
http://www.craphound.com/images/xkcdwrongoninternet.jpg
PS: If you think this is going to win you some brownie points with lyghtkynge,
you are more stupid and dense than we both originally thought.
So congratulations!
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[bridgeeteyes]

I dont post very often in here but I feel I want to post this to lyghtkynge.

Lyghtkynge, may I thank you for your thread. It has provided me with much needed validation to my inner souls path. Much of the knowledge over these many many pages has come to me as a knowing over many years, but I always lacked validation and meaning to what I had seen and felt deeply within my Spirit. My Spirit as it awakens leads me and continues to lead me to ALL that is written here, your insight has given me its confirmation.

Thank you for having the courage to make this knowledge available to those that seek it. By doing so you have given me the courage to continue on the path this knowledge is taking me.

Thank you lyghtkynge.

[purple rain]

http://smackedstupid.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/internet-fantasy.gif

Your insights are exemplary as always purple rain, keep up the shit shoveling,
im sure you will find your pearl.
Dont let me stop you please! Enjoy!
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Which is alot better than copy pasting books from scribd.

Nice pig, is it sun worshipping?



lol, there is no 'around here'. This forum isnt an actual place out in the real world.
Just giving you some much needed perspective on reality versus the fictitious reality in your mind.
I will let you get back to your whining now, carry on.

PS: If you think this is going to win you some brownie points with lyghtkynge,
you are more stupid and dense than we both originally thought.
So congratulations!


That's very deep. As for whining, it was easy to see who it was throwing a fit.

I don't look to ingratiate myself with anyone, thank you. And you very much are a twat. A 100 scribd ebooks later, more enlightened or no, that part of you will remain.

[vladmir]

Nice pig, is it sun worshipping?
Gee, I dont know purple rain, does it look like its 'sun worshipping'?!?!
http://i50.tinypic.com/13zzktc.gif

You need to work on your comebacks!!
ROFL!
http://i48.tinypic.com/j8pg2h.gif

What do you say we just 'let sleeping dogs lie'.
There is no sense arguing for arguments sake.
Whats done is done. I am moving on.
Ciao. Have a great life, and try not to take my jabs (and others) too personally.

[lyghtkynge]

Which is alot better than copy pasting books from scribd.
http://imagecache01a.allposters.com/images/pic/NPLPOD/1130889~Domestic-Pig-Wallowing-in-Mud-USA-Posters.jpg
Nice pig, is it sun worshipping?
Yes, purple rain, it is sun worshipping...and you see the results of 'such' sun worshipping, and all the Resistence to Ego that it produces for the sun worshipper here on this thread. It is a worship of the self, because it feels so good.
That's very deep. As for whining, it was easy to see who it was throwing a fit.

I don't look to ingratiate myself with anyone, thank you. And you very much are a twat. A 100 scribd ebooks later, more enlightened or no, that part of you will remain.
"Because the laws of the Universe are impersonal and exact, the choices you make daily from moment to moment, are the template of your future destiny." (Tom Kenyon)

You have hit the Nail on the Head. The chela, acolyte, apprentice, initiate, student, call them what you will, are Tested, severely, to see if they will be able to Resist themselves when the rage of 'apparent betrayal' comes upon them. This is the First Lesson. And you observed quite clearly who has failed just such a test, as any other who uses thought & perception, may ascertain correctly.

A Chela's Story:

"Once Upon A Time...
"It seems there was an initiate who came to the temple of Hator (Hator, the goddess of Love & joy) desperately wanting to experience these states of love and joy. But he wanted to enter the initiation process at the highest level without going through the lower temples of the underworld. Each time the hopeful initiate would come to the Hator temple of love and joy, he would be sent away with the comment, 'You are not ready. You must enter the underworld.'
. .."This person, being very crafty, used various disguises to present himself as a woman, a crippled man, a sage, or even a beggar. Yet he was still the same person and was sent away. Still he returned time and time again to the temple of Hator, wanting and seeking initiation into the mysteries, but without the willingness to go through the lower temples first. Every time he appeared in disguise, he was sent back into the underworld where he refused to enter and begin the initiation process which would have eventually earned him his heart's desire. The point of this tale is that you cannot bypass your own underworld. You must go down into the catacombs of your own unconsciousness before seeking the higher spiritual mysteries."

"You see, the higher you go in consciousness the deeper you must delve to remain in balance. If you go too high in consciousness without balancing your hidden depths, then you are unbalanced and potentially dangerous..." ("The Hathor Material," Tom Kenyon)

**Knock-knock** (1st)

"Who's there?"

"vladmir."

"I will only confuse you, and I think you are doing well. I cannot help, sorry."

**Knock-knock** (2nd)

"Who's there?"

"vladmir."

"Come In. Such n such n such n so."

"Let me go." (lk did so)

**Knock-knock** (3rd)

"Who's there?"

"vladmir."

"I told you these hells are dark & drear."

"I don't care." (paraphrased for this true to life parable)

"Such n such n so n so."

"You're evil!" [runs away] (paraphrased for this true to life parable)

**Knock-knock** (4th)

"Don't come here anymore, vladmir." (The End)

And, of course, you all know the rest of the story. Hell is a Deep Dark Place, and to find the True Lyght Hidden Within the Black Substance of The Goddess of Night, takes quite a Powerful wHole Soul.

We must each do the work for ourselves, and learn what that work is, and then one must steal themselves against the Fall of Betrayal, which resides in the immoral heart of the spiritually immature.
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . .The White Tiger & The Dragon
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. . . . . . . . @ valdmir:. .Grow up. . . physically & spiritually.

. . . . . . . ..And yes, move on...this mirror is broken for you.
. . . . . . . . . . . ..Be brave... and Watch out for mice.
. .http://www.temptatts4u.com/TNT%20dragon%20and%20tiger%20yinyang.jpg

[purple rain]

Gee, I dont know purple rain, does it look like its 'sun worshipping'?!?!
http://i50.tinypic.com/13zzktc.gif

You need to work on your comebacks!!
ROFL!
http://i48.tinypic.com/j8pg2h.gif

What do you say we just 'let sleeping dogs lie'.
There is no sense arguing for arguments sake.
Whats done is done. I am moving on.
Ciao. Have a great life, and try not to take my jabs (and others) too personally.

Well atleast I don't have to work so hard on them, that I return to edit it 30 minutes later just to link to some lame pictures I have stored somewhere.

[vladmir]

And yes, move on...this mirror is broken for you.
. . . . . . . . . . . ..Be brave... and Watch out for mice.
. .
Oh, is it lk? Maybe you tried to break it, but couldnt!

I hope you now see how he talks about me 'letting go' while he wants to have the last word,
because his intention is to paint himself as the victim, in front of you (the ones who are attracted to what is is talking about and are reading this)
while if you get close enough to him he will stab you in the back,
and tell you its for your own good because you are the chosen ones!

Its all fine and dandy, talking about 'predatory universe' till he finally tells you, ok, now since this entire universe is 'fallen',
you have to commit spiritual suicide/die, (he will give you the technique to cripple yourself spiritually, you just wont recognise it at first) but dont worry, its ok, you will be reborn as a Creator of a better and higher Universe.
Woo hoo right?
WRONG.

Believe as you will readers (im talking to the serious ones, not the casual readers, the casual readers couldnt be bothered either way),
but just remember my words in parting.
If you arent careful, your spiritual sovereignty will be demanded by him as a sacrifice!

(lol, it sounds too far fetched, but i assure you i am not making this sh%* up!)

If you choose to contact him, beware, and keep up your guard!
Your true guard is your Heart, Soul and Intuition.
Dont give in to his false reasoning, and give him permission to invade your personal space and mind.

Once he has your permission, he will come in swiftly like the fallen sorcerer+vampire he is,lol.

Take a look at my previous post below, this is what he WILL ask you to do. Its all leading upto it,lol
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058591067&postcount=209
&
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058591214&postcount=214


Betrayal is the best thing you can do to him, when you finally see what he is doing.

The actual test IS that betrayal,lol.

You reject him and follow you OWN Heart and Soul.

Its the least you can do for him!

[lyghtkynge]

Quote from a NDE'er:
"The pursuit of knoweldge and wisdom should occupy our time---learning how to be in the physical world without becoming attached to its pleasures or caught up in its troubles. No matter what, it is only temporary. It will be over in a flash. If we become conscious of our reason for being while in a physical body, we retain what we learned after death and go on to higher planes of life. If not, our Soul will soon choose rebirth into the physical world to try again to reconnect while in the body."
("Through the Tunnel," Diane Goble)
{Link to Diane Goble's online book available on request, or can be found in my 'Dark Masters' thread early on}

So, now you see the Nature of Truth, Absolutely Overwhelming when Near It's Source, in any form or fashion, not Occluded by the Covering Mist of Ignorance & Innocence Called Life, the Illusion.

And I do not advocate ever harming oneself, fool, as you bawlingly try to indicate. Death is At The End of The Road for everyone of us...for as I have repeated over & over many times, Birth & Death Are The Same! You're gonna haveta die like the quote given by James Pryse tells, of a certainty...but it should never be Precipitated, it is The Greatest Gift.

Here, read it again:
"Mere intellectual assent to an historical record does
not make the grave a door to heaven, or constitute
Death the unveiler of Life eternal. True knowledge,
the direct perception of things spiritual, comes only
when right-conduct is followed, and the outer nature
of man attuned to the inner and divine nature. The
physical body cannot become immortal, nor does
the mere disintegration of the body of flesh open the
way to immortality. It is the Truth alone that makes
man free; and the Truth is not to be known through
blind credulity or through contention about beliefs."
(James Pryse)

You'd best get ahold of yourself, idiot. Your childish attacks are getting a bit beyond your self control, and you appear as the idiot you are to all observing, a great big hatred out-of-control. Shouldn't you be praying or worshipping your 'elevator'? And yes, you did say you were leaving...I was just wishing you a fond farewell, for it is 'my' thread, and I may take the Last Word.

Perhaps a Class in Basics of Comprehension would fix your seeming idiocy, for you have no discernment whatever of what's being communicated by myself on this thread. It has nothing to do with coercion...but it certainly is most Fearful in it's Enormity...which don Juan has called the Incomprehensible, Ineffable, Unknowable, and may go by many names...all of which you seem not to give Allowance to, all the while worshipping the sun, which is your way, so much better than mine or anyone's else's.

As said, you're an idiot. Why don't you and everybody try to read this from my post#216, so you can see that I'm not the only one who believes in something other than your rigid ways & beliefs? Go ahead, valdmir-half-a-wit, try to conceive you're fears are not the only mode of operating in this Universe:
Castaneda was a popular enough phenomenon for Time magazine to do a cover article on Castaneda on March 5, 1973 (Vol. 101 No. 10) that was five or six pages long.

"His fourth book, Tales of Power, ended with Castaneda leaping off a cliff marking his graduation from disciple to man of knowledge (actually a leap from the tonal into the unknown). Some writers thought this must necessarily mark the end of his series. They were very surprised to see he continued to produce more books. Despite an increasingly critical reception Castaneda continued to be very popular with the reading public. Twelve books by Castaneda have been published, and 3 videos released.

"In 1997 Castaneda launched a lawsuit against his ex-wife, Margaret Runyon Castaneda, over her book, 'A Magical Journey with Carlos Castaneda'; but this was dropped when Castaneda died.

"The official story is that Castaneda died on April 27, 1998 from liver cancer in Los Angeles. Little is known about his death. There was no public service, Castaneda was apparently cremated and the ashes were sent to Mexico.

"Castaneda's account of Toltec knowledge
There are three main elements to Castaneda's description of Toltec beliefs:

* a. mastery of awareness- nagual (2nd attention) and tonal (1st attention), art of dreaming, description of the seers perception of luminous energy and bubbles of energy around living things (luminous cocoon) and ultimately the source of these energetic lines which are consciousness itself.

* b. art of self-stalking- dealing with the world and actions in it.

* c. mastery of intent- dealing with the primary force of the universe or the spirit or the means to move the assemblage point.


"Castaneda's books can be read as a philosophical/pragmatical text that express a world view by which a person can live one's life. There is a movement world-wide of practitioners of this philosophy, applying Castaneda's published ideas either independently or through consultation with Castaneda's associates.

"This school of applied shamanism, sometimes called "nagualismo", purports to be unlike either traditional Western or Eastern culture. Castaneda's ideas, insofar as they can be called a "system", share some similarities with Eastern mysticism, Zen, Taoism, or Tibetan Buddhism in terms of the inherent order (or chaos) of the universe, disciplines taught and techniques used, but the underlying structure is fundamentally different.

"According to Castaneda, the most significant facts in a person's life are his possession of awareness and its impending termination at death. The primary goal of a Toltec "Warrior" is the continuation of his awareness after bodily death: to "dart past the Eagle and be free", in the words of the tradition, where the Eagle is the force which consumes the awareness of all living beings.

"To cheat death in this way requires all of the discipline and procedures that constitute the Warrior's way of life. These practices are devised to maximise the Warrior's personal power, or energy. The condition of not wasting this energy is known as "impeccability".

"Sufficient personal power leads to the mastery of awareness, chiefly the controlled movement of what is known as the "assemblage point". This is an artifact of the tradition's description of another world underlying what we perceive as ordinary reality. In this description men are glowing cocoons of awareness inhabiting a universe consisting of the Eagle's "emanations", described euphemistically as all-pervading filaments of light.

"Humans' cocoons are intersected throughout by these filaments, producing perception, but they filter our perceptions by concentrating on only a small bundle. The assemblage point is the focusing lens which selects from the emanations. In its accustomed position, the assemblage point produces what humans perceive as everyday, 'normal' reality. Movement of the assemblage point permits perception of the world in different ways; small movements lead to small changes in perception and large movements to radical changes. For example, dreaming is presented as the result of a movement of the assemblage point; "power plants" such as Peyote, used in the early stages of Castaneda's apprenticeship, produce powerfully altered states of mind through such movement.

"Castaneda describes complex and bizarre worlds experienced through the controlled movement of the assemblage point in dreaming; his premise is that the world of the dreams of a warrior is no less real than the world of daily life. This follows logically from the description of both worlds as being simply the result of positions of the assemblage point. He depicts complex interactions with unearthly beings in dream worlds and describes his fear of being physically trapped by these malicious but charismatic beings."
http://www.biblio.com/author_biographies/2008168/Carlos_Castaneda.html

NDE experiencers (Near Death Experience) have written much of what they went through, some perhaps valid, some perhaps not. I won't mention my future post regarding such, slated for this thread, but it will address the issues of your most fearful fear, death. I know, here you 'insert' your 'fearlessness statement ______________,' right?

You remind me, vladmir, of a noisy baby, who's dropped a load and is making as big a mess as you can, so that everyone will be attracted to what is most important...you and your fears.

Seneca:
"This life is only a prelude to eternity for that which we call death is but a pause, in truth a progress into life."

Now, go back and re-read Diane Goble's statement, given at the top of this post, and meld it with Seneca's statement.

When are you going to rein yourself in, and quit showing us all how stupid and limited you truly are within?

[truthseeker08]

Pay attention, half-wit human:

Yes, I take it upon myself to be your Sacrifice!
Hmm, so vladmir was right after all isn't he!
Whats this crap about 'sacrifice'?!
Thanks vladmir for the warning about this sorcerer lyghtkynge,
What you said about trusting your own heart and intuition really resonated with me,
i knew something wasnt right about this clown and his hissing Naga communications....
We will be on guard!
Lets all remember that it is very likely lyghtkynge will stab you in the back while telling you its for your own good.

[purple rain]

Quote from a NDE'er:
"The pursuit of knoweldge and wisdom should occupy our time---learning how to be in the physical world without becoming attached to its pleasures or caught up in its troubles. No matter what, it is only temporary. It will be over in a flash. If we become conscious of our reason for being while in a physical body, we retain what we learned after death and go on to higher planes of life. If not, our Soul will soon choose rebirth into the physical world to try again to reconnect while in the body."
("Through the Tunnel," Diane Goble)
{Link to Diane Goble's online book available on request, or can be found in my 'Dark Masters' thread early on}




Does becoming aware of the reason entail meditation or does experiences gained through one's life count?

[lyghtkynge]

I dont post very often in here but I feel I want to post this to lyghtkynge.

Lyghtkynge, may I thank you for your thread. It has provided me with much needed validation to my inner souls path. Much of the knowledge over these many many pages has come to me as a knowing over many years, but I always lacked validation and meaning to what I had seen and felt deeply within my Spirit. My Spirit as it awakens leads me and continues to lead me to ALL that is written here, your insight has given me its confirmation.

Thank you for having the courage to make this knowledge available to those that seek it. By doing so you have given me the courage to continue on the path this knowledge is taking me.

Thank you lyghtkynge.

Thanks for your discerning perception. The information is presented in hopes that it may aid some in their personal validations. The substance of Truth of anything has to be validated, most often to multiple degrees, depending on the person and the nature of the validation.

Once this has become part of the function of awareness, the confusion melts off, progressively, for it is a personal experience. To do this wrongly or incorrectly, leads to greater confusion, not lesser. Therefore, the only way to do the process is to begin with the Absolute Truth, which lay beyond the relative and temporal. Over one's life expression, validation increases into a synthesis, with which one may build up their pyramid of consciousness into a golden-silvered state of Direct Knowing.

Communicating such to others is not possible, but some guidance into the direct experience of Truth may be beneficial to certain others who are at the same keynote level, which resounds throughout the energetic field as both spherical & coherent. The Prime Archetypes bypass Everything, which is the Issue of Something, the Father, and Carry it back Into the Source of NOTHING, the Pearl Infinity.

This all starts out as a complex process, as does everything seemingly difficult at the beginning, and upon suitable application, resolves itself into something simple, so easy is it to utilize the skill/ability thereof, like with any other application worth the effort. To me, it seems inconceivable that what I convey seems so complex and fearful by those untrained to the manner expressed...but it's really no different than learning a foreign/alien language, with all it's impersonal subsequent rewards of interaction. Except this language is the language of the Prime Archetypes, that of the Impersonal.

So, I appreciate the intelligent post, unlike some others lately. Only the One matters, not the self...for the Self will Grow to Become Suitable Framework for the One...And the next thing, the stage of the Many In One will become a Reality, that of the Creative Level of Being-Presence, which started out as the smallest expression of energy imaginable, and, like a pearl being formed, gathers the Substance of Love around it...which must be Burst through, or it just encases, and appears both very beautiful, and dead.

Plenty of other threads to deal with other diverse topics. The fanatic seems to fear such knowledge as All-Encompassing in It's Power. It Most Certainly Is So.

[purple rain]

I've also been wondering about the predator types, how did they get where they are without being spiritually pure? If what Gary Willis said was true and this universe is the creation of a bunch of scientists, then how come the reptilians and not them are in overall control?

[gooseone]

Why should the ones who don't follow the path of empathy not be spiritually pure ? In this physical world there is the option to stray from the path with integrity. If it seems to you something is in control , you are only feeding it.

[lyghtkynge]

Originally Posted by lyghtkynge

Quote from a NDE'er:
"The pursuit of knoweldge and wisdom should occupy our time---learning how to be in the physical world without becoming attached to its pleasures or caught up in its troubles. No matter what, it is only temporary. It will be over in a flash. If we become conscious of our reason for being while in a physical body, we retain what we learned after death and go on to higher planes of life. If not, our Soul will soon choose rebirth into the physical world to try again to reconnect while in the body."
("Through the Tunnel," Diane Goble)

Does becoming aware of the reason entail meditation or does experiences gained through one's life count?

Meditation, correctly done, aids in the process, for it is The Stillness, the resonator of the REAL. The reason this is so, is too complex to get into here.

Both the dual aspects of life, the reason and the intuition, must be utlilized and brought into a functional unioned application for best results, which lead to the highest awareness, therefore, the fruit of Truth, Wisdom.

And the Key here is: "The reason for being."

Nothing else matters...this is what has been taken from humanity, and thus, their Power, which alone can Activate True Love...indeed, Power is Love Raised into the Vertical status, unlike the unconsciousess mode of horizontal love, which is blind and mindless. The Heart & Mind of Love must be Known....thus, my oft given statement:

"The Gift of Life is Given to do the Work of Life." lyghtkynge

This is To Know Truth. My given quote by Diane Goble & James Pryse bear forth validation of this in others, which I have also discovered.

The black-white of unconscious intelligence must be Lifted to the Silvered-Golden intelligence-intuition of Awareness, the Vertical State. This Stands Upright (L) at the Center, called Knowing ....which progressively develops into Certain Knowledge of Absolute Truth. Purity is the Essence of the Process. It Knows ItSelf.

[lyghtkynge]

I've also been wondering about the predator types, how did they get where they are without being spiritually pure? If what Gary Willis said was true and this universe is the creation of a bunch of scientists, then how come the reptilians and not them are in overall control?

It's funny you should ask this question. I have been writing a response to this (started an hr. ago!), without you're having asked, but have not finished it yet. It should explain just what you are asking, more or less.

In the meantime, please remember that the emanational unfoldment of any given Creation Effort (Universes), are Always Preceeded by the Magnetic-Negative, before Rotating into the Electric-Positive State, as Sequential unfoldment. This is at the Initiatory Stage, and can be interrupted effortlessly by anything enveloping sufficient power to do so (to alter).

Your key here is: The Unconscious Generate. This two-word explanation is so complex as to be impossible to put into words: but let me hopefully give you a hint: the seed (potential!) sees itself Fully Formed within the stasis-field of it's Shell.

There is no one answer to the complexity of the condition humanity finds itself in...there are intermingling realities/energetic configurations operating throughout existence and the Create. The way to Penetrate to the Truth is the Prime Archetypes...perhaps not the easiest to learn, but the method, once learned, Produces the Brilliance (-/+) Awareness.

[lyghtkynge]

Why should the ones who don't follow the path of empathy not be spiritually pure ? In this physical world there is the option to stray from the path with integrity. If it seems to you something is in control , you are only feeding it.

You are welcome to your uninformed belief's. I cannot control that.

See the bold-italic highlighted in your quote? This is why don Juan used the phrase, "the path of the razor's edge."

If he and others like himself/myself, had only known you before we started living on the Edge of Two Worlds, eh? We could just fart around with integrity.

You're last sentence is what you believe...Do me a favor, brighteyes...go walk in the sun, or go look in the mirror: if you see a shadow, or a reflection, you're in Duality. And don't tell us any fibs about your results, eh? If you notice either, you're full of bs.

[gooseone]

It seems i have mingled in a thread where i show lack of knowledge.
I read something and felt like putting up a reply.
I did not mean to be offensive by being oblivious to your truth.
And i thank you for accepting me having my own truth , i only have a concept which in my view will always be susceptible to improvement.
I am always trying to learn so there is no need to be harsh :)

[lyghtkynge]

It seems i have mingled in a thread where i show lack of knowledge.
I read something and felt like putting up a reply.
I did not mean to be offensive by being oblivious to your truth.
And i thank you for accepting me having my own truth , i only have a concept which in my view will always be susceptible to improvement.
I am always trying to learn so there is no need to be harsh :)

I've already responded to your statements. It's a harsh world; some haven't truly noticed, oblivious. Even the rich can lose their toothbrush (hell), and the powerful not get their way (true hell). It's got a secret designation, which I can't use right now, for people get upset when I do (commode).

Other than that, thanks for trying, and offering us your error observations. Ultimately, there are no errors...but I don't have time for those who take the Scenic Route, when the Promise Given was that to Pass the Fireman's Test. (You can look later.) Excuse me, I've got Training to do.

PS - don Juan was very harsh on Carlos during his apprenticeship, but they had many a shared laugh and good times. No need to take it personal, its Impersonal. Don Juan, as the naugal, had The Map, and his job was to burn it into the consciousness of Carlos and others, so they would become Aware of The Map (which is not complete). It's a job of Intensity, nothing less. You've got this one physical incarnation as you're chance in now: some few know it, and are working hard; most don't: about 6.7 billions-. As I said, you can Look later. UZ & Sticky will permeate you if you fail in this. As most do, leaving it to 'saviors.' You Are the Help from On-High.

As you Stalk Infinity. . .Infinity Stalks You.

[bridgeeteyes]

you have to commit spiritual suicide




Is this not what we do EVERY time we reincarnate though? Our memory of our connection to Source is wiped each and every time we return. Then if we are lucky we manage to re awaken our spirit again whilst incarnated , and go through the pain of working out what is hapenning to us..all over again. Spiritual awakening is painful, it is one of the most painful things a soul can face, and to have that hard earned memory of connection taken away at the point of "physical death" for me IS spiritual suicide or spiritual death as it is more commonly known.

In 2002 I was staying near a small hill top church in Cyprus called Ayios Elias / Prophet Elias. I was abducted by entites who I did not see but have vivid memories of the whole terrifying ordeal. I was taken from my room, lifted off the bed and risen through the roof. Whilst I was on an examination table I sensed their heads to be just above table height so I have always been lead to believe they were Greys, although i have no proof. Following this abduction I and my husband have seen many reptilian beings and other types of entities .

Six months after this we both saw what I can only describe as a green alien with dark black tear drop eyes with some sort of grey skull cap starring down at us. It did not speak but had total control over our minds and bodies.


He also saw a most terrible one that he described as 7 foot tall anubis creature, with a crocodile head, triangular teeth all down its mouth with a long toungue wearing some sort of armour/uniform. As it appeared all the radios sent out high pitch frequencies and there was a loud boom sound. this creature actually spoke telepathically , it said over and over " now he knows, they know" I did not see this creature but after he told me about it I could not sleep properly for over 2 years.

So you see I am no stranger to seeing other worldly entities and have no problem accepting that lyghtkynge was visited by a Naga and that it transferred knowledge to him.

[stanislav]

lyghtkynge,

I am EXTREMELY disappointed by your unfair and disgusting behavior towards Vladimir and others on this board. I finally begun to realize that YOU ARE NOT who you portray yourself to be. Your OVERBLOWN EGO and DELUSIONAL MIND is eating you from inside. I was initially attracted to your material and regarded you to be my teacher all along but instead you have stubbed me in my back time after time. Throughout all of this time I have had utmost respect towards you. I have never expressed so much gratitude to anyone as I have to you because it TRULY came from the bottom of my heart. During this time I have always regarded you to be my friend and my teacher of wisdom but you have never accepted me or ANYONE else for that matter. One thing I have learned from this experience is that one must stay true to themselves but the moment we give in into our fear and despair we begin to give out our true power away. You are a CULT LEADER! Nothing more, nothing else! You DESIRE to be worshiped and you DESIRE for everyone else to fail and be miserable and frightened while YOU have the upper hand all along. You have NO RESPECT for anyone BUT THOSE YOU FEAR. Your hatred for humanity is so awesome that you can not accept yourself for being part of what you hate the most. This all stems from all the rejection you have endured during this life time, especially during your childhood. You need to learn how to forgive others for they do not realize what they have done. Once you release all this hatred towards others you will realize that after all humans are not all wicked as you see them right at this moment. No one deserves to suffer because of their ignorance and innocence as you like to put it so eloquently. If you think that you are a balanced being then you are greatly mistaken. No great, all knowing being will behave the way you do. Your lack on sympathy, genuine love and care for others (and that's not all) tells me that you have much to learn. It is YOU who must empty his cup but your cup is full of bloody hatred for EVERYTHING. You were only just one of many stepping steps in my spiritual growth. Those who learn from their mistakes came out stronger and wiser. I do realize it takes a lot of courage to make your own decision, well I just made mine about you.

[lyghtkynge]

@ s.

You should take the following to heart, which you will not (of course). Have a mirror handy? No? If you do, kindly look into it for 4-5 seconds. See that thing in there, your reflection? It gave a soul oath to not reveal what I said, and you broke this soul oath, self-given. I allowed one person, your most dearly beloved, to share in on it. You are the betrayer of yourself, and I have thusly, and with pre-knowledge, turned the gold I had given you to dust (foolsgold). This occured with both you, as I watched via monitor. You came to me, not the other way around. I told you both not to depend on me, that I would help if I could. As far as being a cult leader, you couldn't be more wrong. I should not be permitted to speak to people because your little mind and false soul doesn't understand what I say, or that I may say what I will in private? And you're what, 21-22 yrs. old perhaps? The last thing I am is what you accuse of in your confused beliefs. Not to mention not realizing that what I've encountered & endured in life has given back silvered-golden wisdom that carries the Sacred-Divine properties of UZ & Sticky...just like matter Itself, which is Sacred, and Spirit, which is Divine: they are One, because there is no matter, as I convey to anyone freely. You failed yourself, and as all traitors of self, you wish to lash out at something outside of you for your faults. The lure of Wisdom brings greed and need into the hearts of women & men who are less enrichened, UZ & Sticky again. The moth to the Lyght, which becomes consumed in its spiral of desire & hope.

I did not say you could possess me; instead, I gave aid as I could. You two betrayed yourselves to yourselves, both under soul oath to not reveal what was said. Shame upon you. Within, there is Without....and this lesson will be borne home to you when you are least capable of bearing it. Never doubt this...around you is All, and It's ways are not as you believe nor desire. In case you think you know it all. Now you know why they call Truth the Burning Fire....and why what is Sacred, and should be kept Sacred. Like a soul promise, little one. You & your fellow are welcome to each other, two children in the forest. Have you any crumbs? The light has gone out, and its getting dark and dangerous about. There are many kinds & levels of predators....within-without. May I go now, freed from the prison of your clinging darkness? I gave, you took.

[truthseeker08]

lyghtkynge,

I am EXTREMELY disappointed by your unfair and disgusting behavior towards Vladimir and others on this board. I finally begun to realize that YOU ARE NOT who you portray yourself to be. Your OVERBLOWN EGO and DELUSIONAL MIND is eating you from inside. I was initially attracted to your material and regarded you to be my teacher all along but instead you have stubbed me in my back time after time. Throughout all of this time I have had utmost respect towards you. I have never expressed so much gratitude to anyone as I have to you because it TRULY came from the bottom of my heart. During this time I have always regarded you to be my friend and my teacher of wisdom but you have never accepted me or ANYONE else for that matter. One thing I have learned from this experience is that one must stay true to themselves but the moment we give in into our fear and despair we begin to give out our true power away. You are a CULT LEADER! Nothing more, nothing else! You DESIRE to be worshiped and you DESIRE for everyone else to fail and be miserable and frightened while YOU have the upper hand all along. You have NO RESPECT for anyone BUT THOSE YOU FEAR. Your hatred for humanity is so awesome that you can not accept yourself for being part of what you hate the most. This all stems from all the rejection you have endured during this life time, especially during your childhood. You need to learn how to forgive others for they do not realize what they have done. Once you release all this hatred towards others you will realize that after all humans are not all wicked as you see them right at this moment. No one deserves to suffer because of their ignorance and innocence as you like to put it so eloquently. If you think that you are a balanced being then you are greatly mistaken. No great, all knowing being will behave the way you do. Your lack on sympathy, genuine love and care for others (and that's not all) tells me that you have much to learn. It is YOU who must empty his cup but your cup is full of bloody hatred for EVERYTHING. You were only just one of many stepping steps in my spiritual growth. Those who learn from their mistakes came out stronger and wiser. I do realize it takes a lot of courage to make your own decision, well I just made mine about you.



very well said... am glad u realized this stan... as vlad had said
“To become truly great, one has to stand with people, not above them.”
grow up lk.. stop being a grown up cranky kiddo..... i pray u realize the essence of ur heart and love one day...

[lyghtkynge]

Odin-Woden (Terrible One), the god of Asgard in Norse myth, which lay Beyond the Rainbow Bridge:

"Sigilind clutched her hand on the hilt of the dagger Wals had given her on the day of her departure: the walkurja's knife. 'Before my mother was married, she road through the air above battling warriors,' she said proudly. 'Wals clan have never sought peace above all else, and Wodan, from whom we are sprung, is often a stirrer of strife."
("Rhinegold," Stephan Grundy, pg.98)

"Berhtwini raised his head wearily to stare at his brother. The flesh had fallen away from his sharp cheekbones and his skin had gone white as death beneath the old purple scars of the fever, so that his eyes seemed to stare from a pock-marked skull already. 'I don't know,' he said, his voice a grating whisper; then, 'Sigimund, how did we end up here? Everything was going so well at home when we left. We had all those ships, we could never have lost a fight with Sigigairar if he had dared to start one. . .how could three nights of bad wind have destroyed everything Wals built? They say Wodan was the father of our line and he's always stood by us, but where is he now?'
. .."'They also say Wodan betrays his chosen at the last,' Sigimund answered slowly. 'He gave wals enough victories; it was only fair that he took him in battle, rather than letting him become a useless old man.'
. .."But what about us? What about our brothers? This is no way for a man to die, tied up and be. . .betrayed by our. . .'
. .."'Betrayed by our sister's husband,' Sigimund rasped as firmly as he could, trying desperately to believe it."
("Rhinegold," Stephan Grundy, pg.120)

"The psychic world is now perceived by the man, and he succumbs to the glamour of this second world, the realm of Delusion. Humorously, in the tragedy, he sees two suns and a twofold city, and is filled with a sense of unlimited power. But he is not now seeking the spiritual Mysteries; he is going forth to spy upon the psychic Mysteries. Even in this venture he is guided by his Divine Self; for there is in it a lesson of life that he must learn. Now, however, his deluded mind holds a strangely distorted conception of that Self.
. ..He who out of mere curiosity, or having no loftier motive than to satisfy the craving for knowledge and power to be selfishly employed, seeks to explore the psychic realm of consciousness will either fail at the outset, merely beclouding his mind with 'occult' puerilities, akin to imbecility, or he will become an obtruder in a world of unbalanced forces, whereby he will be subjected to dangerous delusions, akin to madness and often leading thereto. This course, thus followed in pursuit of knowledge, apart from wisdom, is the very reverse of that which leads to the comprehension of the mysteries of life. Purity, unselfishness, serentiy of soul, breadth of mind, and a deep reverence for the divine Powers in Nature that are ever making for holiness and perfection, must be acquired by him who would pass through the portals of the Mysteries.
. .."By rashly venturing to spy upon psychic mysteries, forcing himself into the realm of delusions, the man becomes the prey of his own distraught psychic nature. His inner Self has led him on, and seemingly betrays him to the frenzied forces of his elemental self; for it is only by the most terrible experiences that the man can be purged from the pollution of his self-righteousness. His viscious egoism is thus destroyed by the very elements from which it was developed."
("Adorers of Dionysos," James Pryse, pg.43)

"I feel a connection to you , I'm a sceptical kind of guy but I see simple truth in your words. THey are not fantastical stories but are delivered in a matter of fact kind of way.

"This tells me you neither care nor want attention. I feel credibility from this."
(anonymous)

My purpose and Intent are specific. Each should protect themselves when dealing with the Purifying Fires of The WORD, The All-&-NOTHING.

I rarely reveal, but readily hint at direction, for it is a Path I Know, having travelled it before. I Remember the Light Up Above, barely sensed, never seen, until Its Effulgence is Made Known by Its Own Self.

To the disappointed, lost in the true dark, remember where the Old Man pointed, just before he disappeared forever. Each are on their own, though a hand may be extended, to help one Stand, who has fallen.

First seen 10 minutes ago, previously unknown regarding the 'father' term. Amazing. I even called my wife in to read it. We just looked at each other:

"The only entrance to Asgard was through the 'Rainbow Bridge' called Bifrost (Bilrost). Another name for Bifrost was Ásabrú or As-bridge. The red arc in the rainbow is actually burning fire, so to make the bridge impassable for mountain-giants and frost-giants. The responsibility of guarding the entrance was entrusted to Heimdall."

"However, the best-known hall was that of Odin's known as Valhalla or Valhall. Valhalla was the hall where the slain warriors reside after falling in battles. While he was seated in the hall of Valhalla, he was known as by the name Val-father, meaning the 'Father of the Slain'."
http://schneesmom.org/World_Lit_Stuff/Valhalla.jpg
. . . . . . . . . .Coincidence? Most likely...

[lyghtkynge]

I stand above no one. Have I not conveyed what don Juan said, which is also what I know?: "I know of no masters. I am equal to everything."

You misappehending children will band together, as the masses do, where the Fear can be shared together, keeping you 'safe' from Truth, which can be Terrible.

Just because you think you have some personal 'spiritual knowledge,' doesn't mean its true (see above post, quote by James Pryse). You can sling false statements all you want, for this is all you know to do. And you are wrong in the face of Truth. I suppose I'd hate me too, if I were you. Ever hear of 'the crucifixion,' and the animals of ignorance (& innocence) who perpetrate it? I've been through it many a time...and the World is filled to capacity with your kind, the delusional true believers, exuding your 'unconditional love,' sans understanding.

[truthseeker08]

I stand above no one, lad. Have I not conveyed what don Juan said, which is also what I know?: "I know of no masters. I am equal to everything."

You misappehending children will band together, as the masses do, where the Fear can be shared together, keeping you 'safe' from Truth, which can be Terrible.

Just because you think you have some personal 'spiritual knowledge,' doesn't mean its true (see above post, quote by James Pryse). You can sling false statements all you want, for this is all you know to do. And you are wrong in the face of Truth. I suppose I'd hate me too, if I were you. Ever hear of 'the crucifixion,' and the animals of ignorance (& innocence) who perpetrate it? I've been through it many a time...and the World is filled to capacity with your kind, the delusional true believers, exuding your 'unconditional love,' sans understanding.


When anyone comes to you with an earnest attitude of learning, all you can do is suck the juice out of them. You want to strangulate them and pull them down to ur level.. You are trapped and stuck in an illusional make-believe-structure and you want others in that cage to give you company.. well its about time you realized that the intellegent ones are not gonna fall for that. Thanks to vlad, even before entering your threshold, i got the stench...! Well but pls dont be disheartened.. All loons would surely want you as their teacher... Good luck with them.. You surely are in for a gigantic surprise... :)

[lyghtkynge]

:)
Really?

Respect is given when respect is received...blatant error is going to be counter-addressed. Gentleness really worked for your savior, didn't it?

The Et's use a big stick for reason. I'm not here for friends.

Aristotle (attributed): "My friends, there are no friends."

Nice to know...

We have a Know It All! Can't wait for your thread.

[vladmir]

@ merlincove
Thanks for stepping in,
we (well, i) promise to keep it down, not let it get personal and not let it get buck wild crazy in here :)


lyghtkynge,

I am EXTREMELY disappointed by your unfair and disgusting behavior towards Vladimir and others on this board. I finally begun to realize that YOU ARE NOT who you portray yourself to be. Your OVERBLOWN EGO and DELUSIONAL MIND is eating you from inside. I was initially attracted to your material and regarded you to be my teacher all along but instead you have stubbed me in my back time after time. Throughout all of this time I have had utmost respect towards you. I have never expressed so much gratitude to anyone as I have to you because it TRULY came from the bottom of my heart. During this time I have always regarded you to be my friend and my teacher of wisdom but you have never accepted me or ANYONE else for that matter. One thing I have learned from this experience is that one must stay true to themselves but the moment we give in into our fear and despair we begin to give out our true power away. You are a CULT LEADER! Nothing more, nothing else! You DESIRE to be worshiped and you DESIRE for everyone else to fail and be miserable and frightened while YOU have the upper hand all along. You have NO RESPECT for anyone BUT THOSE YOU FEAR. Your hatred for humanity is so awesome that you can not accept yourself for being part of what you hate the most. This all stems from all the rejection you have endured during this life time, especially during your childhood. You need to learn how to forgive others for they do not realize what they have done. Once you release all this hatred towards others you will realize that after all humans are not all wicked as you see them right at this moment. No one deserves to suffer because of their ignorance and innocence as you like to put it so eloquently. If you think that you are a balanced being then you are greatly mistaken. No great, all knowing being will behave the way you do. Your lack on sympathy, genuine love and care for others (and that's not all) tells me that you have much to learn. It is YOU who must empty his cup but your cup is full of bloody hatred for EVERYTHING. You were only just one of many stepping steps in my spiritual growth. Those who learn from their mistakes came out stronger and wiser. I do realize it takes a lot of courage to make your own decision, well I just made mine about you.
(Bold and color red emphasis mine)
Very well said stanislav, all the readers of this thread should be thankful for your post. :)
I for one applaud you for stepping up and telling it like it is, for the benefit of all.
It takes an equal measure of guts and humility to post what you did, and we all should recognize that.

lyghtkynge just got a taste of his own 'medicine',
and waaah waaah oh it was bitter was it?!

He can dish it out, but can't take it.
Its that simple.

He has no business demeaning or belittling anybody,
and he just got spanked by his own actions and attitude.
What goes around comes around.

The End.

[lyghtkynge]

@ vlad - You get dumber & dumber. You presume stanislav is correct in his judgements and convictions...which we often find, when young, we're not the case. But you two youths keep making the same error judgements from the younger-more ignorant level you're currently at. When you get bigger/older, you'll find you don't know it all, at all.

And stanislav isn't smart enough to see Truth (imo), so he, as you, both revert to the depraved-error level by using ad hominem, which, if any has a brain, understand the fallacy basis of said argument...it doesn't have to be true, just viscious & nasty, the unbalanced attack of vegeance & hatred, generally stemming from rejection, greed or envy.

"An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:

Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not (in most cases) have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made)."
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

And you keep getting thicker & thicker by your enraged attacks. You 'loved' me plenty when it was good for you, and then you learned to 'hate' when you got hurt, which I intentfully set-up for you both. And the little mental-midgets, reasoning away, agree with your misinformed analysis. You should know that one who swings so widely with the pendulum is out of balance. Myself, I am remain with the same direction, both without & within...as you yourself are actually testifying to.

Not to mention, you began by lying to the moderator, and all the rest of us. What an idiot.

I have explained my position: I Express the Impersonal. I don't give a hoot about your personality or ego or sensibilities: I only care about the Information I am delivering and/or endorsing by submitting it (unlike you, who doesn't even undersand the concepts of the material).

"The Source of Creation does not care for religions, cults or cliques that you might belong to or what books you read, rites you perform, company you keep or what you know or think you are a master of. All it cares about is the original state of Oneness. If you are in Oneness then these other things just lend themselves to a greater whole."
("Scales of the Dragon," Avendar Dragon, pg.16)

I have posted this in another of my threads. It expresses also, the Nature of the Impersonal, which can be most drear seeming on the outside, but I assure you, it is most Alive, as I have also reported over & over...the Impersonal Prime Archetypes Are Alive.

Rather than bitchin' n bellyachin', you should attempt to prove this to yourself, as I suggest to everyone. It's about as basic as the abc's & 123's, or should be, except its not taught to school-entry level students (which is why you missed it).

Over in the science section, you'll find much validation for it on various threads, if you can take your mind off the person, and just pay attention to the material.

So, you think you win, as a pack of dogs that attack their masters. Does that make the dog more or less valuable? I will assure you of this: ignorance is the nature of the beast. And you express Ignorance, via error judgement. Thus, you are frozen in your own false light. Enjoy.

The Opinion of the Herd is so right, isn't it, witless?

[vladmir]

And stanislav isn't smart enough to see Truth (imo), so he, as you, both revert to the depraved-error level by using ad hominem,


(snip)
You 'loved' me plenty when it was good for you, and then you learned to 'hate' when you got hurt, which I intentfully set-up for you both.

LOL, but of course, you intentfully set all of this up!!
Its all about you you you you isint it!


You are getting funnier to all of us,
in a tragic deluded sort of way.

http://webpages.csus.edu/~ah465/Popcorn.jpg

Great show btw!

***oooh i cant wait to see what happens next! Hushhh.....***