View Full Version : Ron Paul Illuminati? Is Alex Jones aware of this?
gullick
12-09-2007, 10:59 PM
Hi, I was browsing the internet last night and was regularly checking back to PrisonPlanet.com since it was being continually updated due to the 9/11 anniversary.
A photo came up of George Bush making the satanic hand gesture at the 9/11 memorial.
As you may be aware Alex Jones has a full page about this exact gesture on his website.
Regardless of whether you believe this means anything, obviously Alex Jones does.
I carried on my internet travels and found this video.
Even though half of the stuff in the video is irrelevant, according to Alex Jones' beliefs this means that he may be an Illuminati member, it doesn't necessarily MAKE him an illuminati, but its at least questionable in regards to Alex Jones' page.
I sent Alex a news tip about it through his contact page, obviously didn't recieve any response.
So I joined the PrisonPlanet forums, had to wait till this morning for approval.
Since this is a story, I'll have you know I went to bed and then woke up, brushed my teeth, rubbed the sweat from my crevices and began my day of reckoning.
I didn't get the response from the PrisonPlanet forums, but I could still log in. I posted a thread, of which I have no proof of since its gone straight down the memory hole! I thought Alex was against nineteen-eighty four style repression...
But I'm getting ahead of myself.
So I posted a thread about this video, saying how I think its plausible since the CIA have allegedly been creating 9/11 conspiracy websites with disinformation since there is a huge 9/11 truth and anti-NWO movement online. They could possibly have seen this as a threat so therefore they put Ron Paul as a presidential candidate just in case. However, I didn't state this as my belief, I just questioned it. I am still not sure what I believe.
I checked back about two minutes later, one person agreed with the possibility, I checked back another two minutes later...
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/ALEXJONESHASSOMETHINGTOHide.jpg
Excuse my language, but what the fuck?!?!
I'm banned? What for? I was going to check the terms of use, but I can't access ANYTHING! Not even the help section! I'm pretty sure asking a question isn't against the terms of use... (Could somebody please post them for me?)
Its actually banned my IP, I can't access with any browser.
I obviously found this a bit suspicious, I didn't make any accusations, I created a poll asking what peoples opinions were to make it even less biased.
I then posted a comment on Alex Jones' myspace, and after realizing that he has to approve the comments I sent him one right afterwards.
Comment one:-
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/alex2.jpg
Then after realizing he has to approve comments:-
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/ALEXJONESISACUNT3.jpg
Now, I want you to read the second one as though you hadn't read the first. You'd probably think "Damn, this guy is just a prick who hates Alex Jones."
Well how do you think the people who read his page thought when he ONLY APPROVED THAT ONE!!!
I know I was a bit full on with the second message, also with the first one due to it being capitalized, but I assumed Alex would be recieving thousands of comments and wanted to make mine stand out, being as its pretty important regarding his credibility since he's rooting for Ron Paul.
But only approving the second comment seems very manipulative to me.
What do you all think? Sorry about the length of this post but I think its an important issue.
I have made several attempts to contact Alex but had no luck, I've actually spammed his contact lines. This might seem as though I'm lacking netiquette, although I think hes lacking respect for his followers.
wow. good video, there's defenitely meaning behind all those hand signs, people, epsecially in potential power like ron, don't do those on accident. he very well might be in the occult, scary since that brings up an even broader array of questions to ask. anyway, that alex jones thing gets under my skin....your not alone man
synergy777
12-09-2007, 11:26 PM
omg, if this is true, is ron paul an illuminati opposame? 2tuff thinks alex jones is a vatican lackey, as alex jones does not highlight the vaticans involvement. is there anyone we can trust?
gullick
12-09-2007, 11:34 PM
omg, if this is true, is ron paul an illuminati opposame? 2tuff thinks alex jones is a vatican lackey, as alex jones does not highlight the vaticans involvement. is there anyone we can trust?
Heard exactly the same thing myself, didn't mention it because I have no sources nor do I have any real knowledge on it.
I've heard the vatican actually started the illuminati. Not sure if its true
synergy777
12-09-2007, 11:38 PM
to me it was one if not the most upsetting thing, to realise the very instituon that spread yashuahs word was the abode of the dark forces that control the planet, the dagger in the heart. when i realised this, things went haywire, i'm fine now, but it ws the straw that broke the camels back. then i found out about cesare borgia, piso family, medici, jesuits, council of nicea etc. the columbus, inquisition. as a kid we were told to respect the vatican etc, it was bitter pill to swallow. after this the clergy were not my favoutite people. then the abuse scandals, the mafia connections, etc, this world is sick.
synergy777
12-09-2007, 11:41 PM
i use to idolise the cdf, opus dei, gods warriors etc. then i found out what they were really doing. nothing is sacred anymore.
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8919/jesusuniversemq5.jpg
gullick
12-09-2007, 11:42 PM
to me it was one if not the most upsetting thing, to realise the very instituon that spread yashuahs word was the abode of the dark forces that control the planet, the dagger in the heart. when i realised this, things went haywire, i'm fine now, but it ws the straw that broke the camels back. then i found out about cesare borgia, piso family, medici, jesuits, council of nicea etc. the columbus, inquisition. as a kid we were told to respect the vatican etc, it was bitter pill to swallow. after this the clergy were not my favoutite people. then the abuse scandals, the mafia connections, etc, this world is sick.
I don't know about hardly any of those things you mentioned! Thanks, I'll do some searching on the keywords :)
So what do you think of this, reckon Alex Jones knows about Ron Pauls possible connection but covers it up due to Rons popular support, or do you think something darker is afoot in the world of Alex Jones...
synergy777
12-09-2007, 11:45 PM
i don't know i have ron paul and alex jones on me myspace. i trust too easily, its kick in the teeth if they are. sometimes going alone is the safest option.
look for the books:
the two babylons: alexander hislop
the broken cross: piers compton
http://www.vaticanassassins.org/
http://www.arcticbeacon.com/
http://www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com/
malvern
13-09-2007, 12:00 AM
INTRESTING.... Goverments have used Faulse Flag Opps for years and the western power are some of the best at it..... Look at the bigger picture, the band wagon, who's making all the money from this.. whoo's feeding there egos.
free yourself and help other to become free ... thats the only truth.. you can only find it for yourself.
freedom for all
synergy777
13-09-2007, 12:05 AM
helping others is a huge repsonsibility, they want someone perfect, all knowing, without faults etc. what happens if you are flawed, have wrong info, lead them wrongly, astray?
steevo
13-09-2007, 12:07 AM
That video doesnt prove anything either way about Ron Paul cos it could have been edited. He may have been put there to sway voters, who are "sat on the fence", to vote Republican instead of democrat.
Ron Paul is a Republican so that in itself tells you something is wrong with him. They are ALL the same tho. I repeat Ron Paul is a Republican with Republican ideals. He just happens to say the right things, he is an old man who will die soon anyway so that suits the illuminati.
If he did become president and the NWO and Police State continues to move forward at break neck speed, then we will know the truth about Ron Paul but it wont really matter cos the Police state will be so strong that he will do what he likes anyway and wont give a shit whether a revolution starts.
Maybe we should just get on our knees and pray to God or Allah or that elephant god for help :cool:
malvern
13-09-2007, 12:13 AM
I agree with your point we all should live together .. is that not freedom .... help other not control them ,,they most find there own freedom... you can not be free living some elses dreams or wanting to be some one else because it looks good for them. goodness is you if you want it to be
freedom for all
gullick
13-09-2007, 12:13 AM
That video doesnt prove anything either way about Ron Paul cos it could have been edited. He may have been put there to sway voters, who are "sat on the fence", to vote Republican instead of democrat.
Ron Paul is a Republican so that in itself tells you something is wrong with him. They are ALL the same tho. I repeat Ron Paul is a Republican with Republican ideals. He just happens to say the right things, he is an old man who will die soon anyway so that suits the illuminati.
If he did become president and the NWO and Police State continues to move forward at break neck speed, then we will know the truth about Ron Paul but it wont really matter cos the Police state will be so strong that he will do what he likes anyway and wont give a shit whether a revolution starts.
Maybe we should just get on our knees and pray to God or Allah or that elephant god for help :cool:
I know it doesn't prove that he is a member of any secret societies, but the fact I've been banned and censored proves that something is being hidden.
If he is a NWO puppet, then its possible people could go to him for peace, then another false flag terrorist attack will occur, people will believe its real since its Ron Paul in charge, man on peace, he'll get public support for war and kabbam, NWO.
steevo
13-09-2007, 12:19 AM
I know it doesn't prove that he is a member of any secret societies, but the fact I've been banned and censored proves that something is being hidden.
If he is a NWO puppet, then its possible people could go to him for peace, then another false flag terrorist attack will occur, people will believe its real since its Ron Paul in charge, man on peace, he'll get public support for war and kabbam, NWO.
Yeah that is very possible :( My gut feeling is that he is part of the NWO. On a positive note, whether or not he is good or evil, the things Ron Paul is saying are very informative to the sheeple and it will make them think.
gullick
13-09-2007, 12:24 AM
Yeah that is very possible :( My gut feeling is that he is part of the NWO. On a positive note, whether or not he is good or evil, the things Ron Paul is saying are very informative to the sheeple and it will make them think.
Although, is he saying anything which isn't already public knowledge? E.g. "The war in Iraq is bad!!! The IRS isn't good!".
In my opinion he's basically just saying what the public want to hear.
By doing this he will look less corrupt, he is against the war in Iraq but he has voted for extra military strength etc. before. If he could think up a good enough reason to go to war, the public won't have a problem since they already think hes not fear mongering.
steevo
13-09-2007, 12:25 AM
The same goes for Alex Jones, he is very informative so it helps spread the word and we need Alex jones right now because let's face it he comes across as an "Alpha Male" with his gruff voice and aggressive attitude and it takes something like that to get heard in this day and age.
I mean gandhi would have no chance nowadays.
Maybe, you were kicked off the Alex Jones forums cos of the title of his other site "info wars".
synergy777
13-09-2007, 12:28 AM
I mean gandhi would have no chance nowadays.
sad but true.
ninja17
13-09-2007, 12:39 AM
how about loggin in there again with an other name?use your ninja tactics..
i just got this to add...
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Alex-Jones-summary.html
pce
gullick
13-09-2007, 12:42 AM
how about loggin in there again with an other name?use your ninja tactics..
i just got this to add...
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Alex-Jones-summary.html
pce
They've blocked my IP address, I can't click on any links on forum.prisonplanet.com, keeps sending me back to the same page.
Don't suppose anyone wants to check if the post is still there or if there is any mention of it, it was on general discussion.
ninja17
13-09-2007, 12:54 AM
i mean,one dude got banned from this forum too for talking shit about icke(or he said sumthing else,didnt follow the thread)...
but yea thats fucked up.
pce
kadamose
13-09-2007, 12:59 AM
They've blocked my IP address, I can't click on any links on forum.prisonplanet.com, keeps sending me back to the same page.
Don't suppose anyone wants to check if the post is still there or if there is any mention of it, it was on general discussion.
use http://www.youhide.com - it will hide your IP address and bypass the ban.
gullick
13-09-2007, 01:03 AM
use http://www.youhide.com - it will hide your IP address and bypass the ban.
Thankyou very very much!!!
I'll keep this updated :D
I sent Alex a news tip about it through his contact page, obviously didn't recieve any response.
AJ has shitload of people working for him. So, if something was of importance for his agenda -- he would receive your message, rest assured. But, what you asked is NOT what
suits his/their agenda, therefore you heard only silence.
So I joined the PrisonPlanet forums, had to wait till this morning for approval.
that is the way to go -- straight to the source.
I didn't get the response from the PrisonPlanet forums, but I could still log in.
of course not, you have not asked a pre-canned PC question.
you used your brain and formulated your own question based on your own suspicions and your own brainpower and you used your intuition.
basically, your subconscious mind knew the truth all along, and your conscious mind was driven crazy by your subconscious that did not want to shut up. then, your conscious mind decided to learn the truth, no matter how ugly it may be. (been there, done that)
I posted a thread, of which I have no proof of since its gone straight down the memory hole! I thought Alex was against nineteen-eighty four style repression...
not surprising at all!
and I am sure you know WHY is that. He is one of them, like Ron Paul, or Pat Buchanan, or any other "alternative" that they give us.
So I posted a thread about this video, saying how I think its plausible since the CIA have allegedly been creating 9/11 conspiracy websites with disinformation since there is a huge 9/11 truth and anti-NWO movement online. They could possibly have seen this as a threat so therefore they put Ron Paul as a presidential candidate just in case. However, I didn't state this as my belief, I just questioned it. I am still not sure what I believe.
I concluded that CIA/MI5/6 have established some web sites way before 9/11, then they went into high gear afterwards.
Fintan Dunne have figured this one out a while back. look at his "CIA fakes" list. Google it. Or read posts on his forum.
or read/listen "Opposing Digits", "French connection" and others.
they all expose Jones and other CIA ops!
But, most damning evidence that he is one of them is in audio clip that Bill Copper played (included in my links at the bottom) because Alex Jones implicates him self by making the shit up, using pure fabrications and fearmongering.
I checked back about two minutes later, one person agreed with the possibility, I checked back another two minutes later...
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/ALEXJONESHASSOMETHINGTOHide.jpg
Excuse my language, but what the fuck?!?!
ha ha....
welcome to the Matrix buddy!
The rabbit hole is pretty deep.
I'm banned? What for? I was going to check the terms of use, but I can't access ANYTHING! Not even the help section! I'm pretty sure asking a question isn't against the terms of use... (Could somebody please post them for me?)
you are banned because you asked a REAL FUCKING question, that is why.
Its actually banned my IP, I can't access with any browser.
use a proxy
I then posted a comment on Alex Jones' myspace, and after realizing that he has to approve the comments I sent him one right afterwards.
Well how do you think the people who read his page thought when he ONLY APPROVED THAT ONE!!!
yap... ain't that convenient?
Mr "Truther" is effectively censoring the posts/reponses!
I know I was a bit full on with the second message, also with the first one due to it being capitalized, but I assumed Alex would be recieving thousands of comments and wanted to make mine stand out, being as its pretty important regarding his credibility since he's rooting for Ron Paul.
you have done nothing wrong by capitalizing it!
it is a very IMPORTANT issue.
But only approving the second comment seems very manipulative to me.
yap
What do you all think? Sorry about the length of this post but I think its an important issue.
I have made several attempts to contact Alex but had no luck, I've actually spammed his contact lines. This might seem as though I'm lacking netiquette, although I think hes lacking respect for his followers.
I think you should read my relevant threads, listen to the audio clips and do your own thinking.
you will KNOW!
and you will know why AJ was "arrested" (once more)
not even Hollywood can beat this CIA conspiracy production.
here is the start:
Alex Jones exposed by Bill Cooper in 1999 (must listen the clip)
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8766
and rest of the threads also cover fake Christian A.J. and his other CIA hacks like Tsarion and Maxwell, all CIA plants.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9415
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9408
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9012
gullick
13-09-2007, 01:36 AM
Thankyou very much for your detailed response!
I'm fighting this one till the end, I can guarantee you all that now!
I've actually listened to most of the bill cooper audio, i'll be checking out the other threads in approximately ten seconds, right after I press submit :)
mynameis
13-09-2007, 01:42 AM
From what i remember they had to pressure Ron to do the hand signal. The others seem doctored.
limelady
13-09-2007, 02:02 AM
I guess this is why a few of us haven't been jumping on the
Ron Paul bandwaggon.
'They' always have one or two up their sleeve, and this one
just looked a little too obvious....like a piece of sticky fly paper.
:cool:
28th kingdom
13-09-2007, 02:08 AM
I got my IP banned at the Prison Planet forum... for mentioning the Reptilians... yea, it's like Nazi Germany over there... but anyway... that's a fvcking I Love You sign... notice how the thumb sticks out? Thumb tucked in... is the devil sign.
gullick
13-09-2007, 02:29 AM
I've been banned again!!!
I have pics and videos this time, will be putting everything together in a video and posting it to youtube. I posted exactly what I posted here with a foreword stating that!!! I didn't say which website though, this is my secret base of operations.
Alex Jones is going to fall! People will start looking towards the spiritual side of things and realize that's the way to break the NWO!
I wish.
But either way, I'm going to try my best to expose this.
I wish David Icke would take Alex Jones' place as the leading conspiracy theorist.
gullick
13-09-2007, 02:31 AM
After a bit more research I don't think Ron is an illuminati member, however the fact that Alex/his staff are censoring my right to free speech says a lot in my opinion.
If he is a NWO puppet, then its possible people could go to him for peace, then another false flag terrorist attack will occur, people will believe its real since its Ron Paul in charge, man on peace, he'll get public support for war and kabbam, NWO.
Scary to think about huh? Considering how gullible the American population is? Im whilling to bet a majority of the people don't even know about ron paul yet, once they're reviled to his stance on everything, they'll be sucked right in considering the obvious feelings they have thinking somethings wrong. Easy trap, and im not taking it out of consideration that it could happen.
auron
13-09-2007, 03:25 AM
use http://www.youhide.com - it will hide your IP address and bypass the ban.
Hey thanks for that link Kadamose! :)
h1s_l0rdsh1p
13-09-2007, 04:54 AM
Is it not funny, how someone almost brand new. Just kinda steps out of the shadow, and comes along with things like this?
Almost like.... disinfo.. No no no! He doesn't have his troll quality.
h1s_l0rdsh1p
13-09-2007, 05:02 AM
Oh yeah, and by the way:
Those hand signals that you keep seeing Ron Paul give are 1 of the two things:
1) everytime he does it, his thumb is completely sticking out, unlike many we've seen before. So this could just be alittle thing like that.
2) check out exactly what your middle finger and ring finger bent inwards, with your pinky finger, your pointer finger, and your thumb completely extend out means in sign langauge..
Also, they quoting him on his "If you want to go to war, you declare it, go in there and win it" speach, and told how he was for going into Afganistan in 2001.
If anybody remembers, the original 9/11 was in 2001, so he was just like everybody else. Lost and ready to get this "Osama" guy. And if you noticed, he said you declare war. That's something that he's preached about aswell. This war in Iraq was not declared. It was not a proper war(I know, oxymoron, but anyways) and that's what he's preaching against. America acting like it can do whatever it wants.
Well I think either one of two things are going to happen.
Either he's with them ( i'll just say the hidden agenda )
or he'll be assasinated - and considering how we havent had a good president since kennedy, i don't think they'll fuck up now.
freedomnonfighter
13-09-2007, 06:20 AM
Whether he's flashing Illuminati/Satanic hand signals or not...
I still won't FOLLOW him. Nor anybody.
Bandwagons are always filled with two things:
1) group mind
2) vanity
In my opinion he's basically just saying what the public want to hear.
EXACTLY! My thought since I first learned of him.
The Illuminati always love to control (and/or create) all sides.
Ron Paul wouldn't ever even become President anyway...
I don't know how people have been swept up with the belief that he could.
The entire voting system (especially since it's now electronic) is a complete fraud, just like everything else in this societal/'political' system.
(And I still maintain what I've told friends/fam for a couple years now - that Hillary will be Presipuppet 08).
Even if they decide to surprise us with him becoming President, well that's exactly it.
He would never be elected, he'd be selected like every other before him.
What the hell would he do even if he became President?
We'd have one "good guy" amongst a completely corrupt (since day #1) system.
Sounds like a plan, "Ron Paul Supporters"
A Constitutionalist? PLEASE.... I'm getting tired of all these Constitutionalists...
"Well, humanity, if we just resorted back to 1776 all would be well..." :rolleyes:
Most on these forums should know - The Constitution was just another giant step towards the NWO. It IS New World Order. The Constitution of the Land of the Serpent. SOUNDS LOVELY.
People need to realize that we've been HAD. We have. We allowed ourselves to. And we wallowed in it for years and years and years and years.
THUS. Why TRY to improve bullshit when you can just call it for what it is, bullshit!?
Oh, but it will be magnificent bullshit if we just put a little cherry on top, giggle giggle.
And more importantly, you are NOT a citizen of the United States of Amerika nor any other 'country' or 'State'. You are INFINITY experiencing and manifesting itself as the you you are right now reading this. There are no countries there are only CORPORATIONS we've just been conditioned to see them as separate countries. Woops, digressing...
But anyways. I guess this turned out to be a little mini-rant on my part ;)
...Trying to change our world/society from the outside in is completely futile. And will only result in a repeat of everything we have seen because that's what we have been trying to do all along.
Inner -> Outer
freedomnonfighter
13-09-2007, 06:26 AM
Also, they quoting him on his "If you want to go to war, you declare it, go in there and win it" speach, and told how he was for going into Afganistan in 2001.
If anybody remembers, the original 9/11 was in 2001, so he was just like everybody else. Lost and ready to get this "Osama" guy. And if you noticed, he said you declare war. That's something that he's preached about aswell. This war in Iraq was not declared. It was not a proper war(I know, oxymoron, but anyways) and that's what he's preaching against. America acting like it can do whatever it wants.
Yeah I don't think Amerika has technically (or 'lawfully'?) declared war since WW2?
That's definately what Ron Paul was talking about.
I assume the videomaker was trying to make it sound like some horrible fascist commandment or something.
dr_strangelove
13-09-2007, 06:27 AM
fuck ron paul
devyn
13-09-2007, 07:25 AM
Oh yeah, and by the way:
Those hand signals that you keep seeing Ron Paul give are 1 of the two things:
1) everytime he does it, his thumb is completely sticking out, unlike many we've seen before. So this could just be alittle thing like that.
2) check out exactly what your middle finger and ring finger bent inwards, with your pinky finger, your pointer finger, and your thumb completely extend out means in sign langauge..
it's sign language for love or I love you.
when we are at following gurus of any kind, be it politicians, be it "alternative media" heroes -- we are giving our power away to those who are feeding us the illusion. illusion that a politician will be able to change millennia old system.
illusion that someone who calls him self "alternative" reporter, or researcher or... whatever -- will be able to change anything.
It is 6 years after 9/11 and nothing changed for better, no criminals are brought to justice, things are not getting better in any way, shape or form.
all that is advancing is NWO agenda. Awakening is stifled, people are dumbed down to level of retarded bugs. that is scary, to have powerful brain and to not even contemplate using it. but, majority of sheeple are that way, they do not want to use it.
so, something is very wrong.
we are being led in downward spiral by certain people in "alternative media" who were put in positions of "spokesmen"..... that is -- they pretend to be our spokesmen.
well, they are actually the gatekeepers, deraulers and bullshitters. or circus operators.
they use different methods for different occasions but results are the same -- we spin the wheels in place and car is actually rolling backward instead of going forward.
and what do we do when we are fed "information"? without checking their credentials and their track record for honest and accurate reporting we accept that their intentions are of highest order.
basically we have faith that ther intentions are honest because we hear the truths mixed with lies and/or rumors and we accept it all as true. because, just like those who watch Faux News we think "they would not lie to us".
but, would Babylonian elite be really that stupid to leave the major holes open so that alternative researchers can work against their system, possibly spooling their plans?
Alex Jones got arrested you say. Wow! then that proves that he is a good guy, right? why don't you check how many times he got arrested?
and how many times cameras were there to document the "arrest"
every single time, right? And, he "infiltrated" B.G. and he still is alive?
Did he take a good photo, as evidence, of those B.G. goers, so that we can
investigate this a bit further?
no? why not?
Never mind that he had his "anti NWO" site for some 11 years, yes, he started it before 9/11. When i see that Patriot Act is destroyed and originators of it are thrown in jail and that a real investigation in 9/11 is held because "alternative media" people have aroused the public -- then i will know that
there is a real movement. but, as you know, nothing like that happened, things got worse.
Is maybe because Alex Jones censors the information? is it maybe because he proclaims solutions presented by some of his callers as not desirable?
I heard Alex cutting off one dude who had a really god idea to organize masive peaceful protests in many local towns simultaneously "that is exactly what they want us to do".
Why is that a bad idea? is it because the cat can get out of bag and sheeple can begin to do something that could be beneficial for people and nightmare for establishment?
we need to use critical thinking and ask WHY>
Where are those people that Alex Jones is saying are awakening every day? Have you met any of them lately?
i bet you not, and if you want to talk about subject -- they avoid it (or you) like a plague.
so,what is the solution?
the bottom line is that in order to fully disconnect from the Mother Matrix’s tit
each of us (who can see through the layers of BS) will have to find our own power within and tap into that power.
This is the final step, from this point on you are not allowing the matrix to control you and to keep you in. Break through it and you will be free from Matrix's illusions that are designed to keep you in. yes, you will see the horrific ugliness of the system, yes you will have to interact with the system because we all live in it, but you will know that no Jesus, no Buddha, No Allah, no Pleidians, no ... anyone but you will be able to "save" your self.
Besides, what is there to save in a horrific system?
If you are eternal - what you are afraid of?
Death?
fear not physical death, but fear spiritual death, just look at the dead zombies around you. Aren't you glad you are not one of them?
that is the ONLY way our of this mess; reconnect with that inner animating force, and by doing so you will be recconecting to the universal consciousness of many others like you. call it consciousness, call it spirit, call it animating force -- it is the same thing. reconnect with it.
that is all you need.
imagine millions of people who decided not to play the Matrix game -- who is to say what will be possible then?
yes, world is in a mess, i hate to see all that suffering and injustice around me. it is horrible and it hurts me.
but, my spirit knows that he is in driver's seat now and that he has a job to do. To tell others that they can do the same. to make them think, so that they too can discover this. just listen to that inner voice, he has all answers.
only by having the consciousness in driver's seats can we begin to take the control back, and first step is to discover how powerful we really are.
and we do not believe that we are powerful because we are programmed
from our birth to feel powerless. so, break the programming, think outside the box.
Think why would they throw all that technology (HAARP, scalars, GWEN)
surveillance systems and attack our body (Vaccines, fluoride, aspartame) if we were nobodies?!
hint: they are doing it because they are afraid of you and me.
now, you sleep on that.
I am sure you will get an idea. an original idea that is created in one's head is the best thing for us, and most dangerous for them.
gorana
13-09-2007, 07:42 AM
omg, if this is true, is ron paul an illuminati opposame? 2tuff thinks alex jones is a vatican lackey, as alex jones does not highlight the vaticans involvement. is there anyone we can trust?
Yes there is. That only person you can trust is ... Yourself. It has been proven that even the best friends cheat on you when they can get advantage in form of money or power.
Anyway, watch your back but don't be paranoid. :)
And regarding Ron Paul... As i said in one other post, i don't know much about him, except what i catch over internet and/or news media here in germany. But i somehow feel, that he is a kid who knows about best parties in town and is not invited to them.
G.
steevo
13-09-2007, 10:30 AM
Anyone trying to bring Alex Jones down at this moment is gonna cause us problems, we need him to spread the word. The stuff he comes out with is basically working, it's making people aware of this terrible system.
We should NOT fight amongst ourselves. Divide and conquer.
By all means DISCUSS Ron Paul, Alex Jones and even David Icke but dont try to stop them spreading the word, especially not right now ffs! :mad:
If we are being totally honest with ourselves, we know what the truth is but we are scared to act on it. The truth being that we must no longer be employed, we must live as a community and not use money, not buy anything, 100% non-co-operation. That is the only way. But we arent gonna do that ARE WE.
Until that day comes we need to spread the word (thru Alex, David, Ron etc) or it aint gonna happen.
It will be too late when the Police State and NWO are in full effect and blood is gonna be shed big time.
People who wanna bring down Alex jones etc at this time are misguided or have a hidden agenda in my opinion.
People are coming on this forum trying to put across their "mainstream media views". Surely they should go onto the Daily Mail website to speak to people of similar views.
When I first joined this forum, I asked a question and maybe it appeared that I was against David Icke and I got slaughtered by the paranoid ones on here, you know who you are :D I didnt like it at all but I understood why they slaughtered me. This is a war of information.
john white
13-09-2007, 11:25 AM
Hi, I was browsing the internet last night and was regularly checking back to PrisonPlanet.com since it was being continually updated due to the 9/11 anniversary.
A photo came up of George Bush making the satanic hand gesture at the 9/11 memorial.
As you may be aware Alex Jones has a full page about this exact gesture on his website.
Regardless of whether you believe this means anything, obviously Alex Jones does.
I carried on my internet travels and found this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiIBUIWJNLM).
Even though half of the stuff in the video is irrelevant, according to Alex Jones' beliefs this means that he may be an Illuminati member, it doesn't necessarily MAKE him an illuminati, but its at least questionable in regards to Alex Jones' page.
I sent Alex a news tip about it through his contact page, obviously didn't recieve any response.
So I joined the PrisonPlanet forums, had to wait till this morning for approval.
Since this is a story, I'll have you know I went to bed and then woke up, brushed my teeth, rubbed the sweat from my crevices and began my day of reckoning.
I didn't get the response from the PrisonPlanet forums, but I could still log in. I posted a thread, of which I have no proof of since its gone straight down the memory hole! I thought Alex was against nineteen-eighty four style repression...
But I'm getting ahead of myself.
So I posted a thread about this video, saying how I think its plausible since the CIA have allegedly been creating 9/11 conspiracy websites with disinformation since there is a huge 9/11 truth and anti-NWO movement online. They could possibly have seen this as a threat so therefore they put Ron Paul as a presidential candidate just in case. However, I didn't state this as my belief, I just questioned it. I am still not sure what I believe.
I checked back about two minutes later, one person agreed with the possibility, I checked back another two minutes later...
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/ALEXJONESHASSOMETHINGTOHide.jpg
Excuse my language, but what the fuck?!?!
I'm banned? What for? I was going to check the terms of use, but I can't access ANYTHING! Not even the help section! I'm pretty sure asking a question isn't against the terms of use... (Could somebody please post them for me?)
Its actually banned my IP, I can't access with any browser.
I obviously found this a bit suspicious, I didn't make any accusations, I created a poll asking what peoples opinions were to make it even less biased.
I then posted a comment on Alex Jones' myspace, and after realizing that he has to approve the comments I sent him one right afterwards.
Comment one:-
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/alex2.jpg
Then after realizing he has to approve comments:-
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/regullick/ALEXJONESISACUNT3.jpg
Now, I want you to read the second one as though you hadn't read the first. You'd probably think "Damn, this guy is just a prick who hates Alex Jones."
Well how do you think the people who read his page thought when he ONLY APPROVED THAT ONE!!!
I know I was a bit full on with the second message, also with the first one due to it being capitalized, but I assumed Alex would be recieving thousands of comments and wanted to make mine stand out, being as its pretty important regarding his credibility since he's rooting for Ron Paul.
But only approving the second comment seems very manipulative to me.
What do you all think? Sorry about the length of this post but I think its an important issue.
I have made several attempts to contact Alex but had no luck, I've actually spammed his contact lines. This might seem as though I'm lacking netiquette, although I think hes lacking respect for his followers.
I can see where your coming from: and yes its possible
On the other hand, Alex Jones may not have read your message and your banned becuase some over zealous forum mod thought you were being a cock
I dunno: even if your right why be suprised? Just support anyone else based on where you support them, dont support what you dont support, and move on
Which does'nt mean don't talk about it... but fear that either Ron Paul or alex Jones are illuminati don't add up to much in terms of actually helping anything, unless we are looking to be led: if we are not, why be afraid that they are?
At the end of the day all Ron Paul is is someone people can focus their support upon: by focusing support on him, people can raise awareness of the issues they support. I know some people really want him to win, but thats not the most likely outcome, and not the only reason for supporting his campaign: but lets face it, no-ones supporting it becuase its everything they want it to be (at least not in conspiracyville)
john white
13-09-2007, 11:27 AM
Anyone trying to bring Alex Jones down at this moment is gonna cause us problems, we need him to spread the word. The stuff he comes out with is basically working, it's making people aware of this terrible system.
We should NOT fight amongst ourselves. Divide and conquer.
By all means DISCUSS Ron Paul, Alex Jones and even David Icke but dont try to stop them spreading the word, especially not right now ffs! :mad:
If we are being totally honest with ourselves, we know what the truth is but we are scared to act on it. The truth being that we must no longer be employed, we must live as a community and not use money, not buy anything, 100% non-co-operation. That is the only way. But we arent gonna do that ARE WE.
Until that day comes we need to spread the word (thru Alex, David, Ron etc) or it aint gonna happen.
It will be too late when the Police State and NWO are in full effect and blood is gonna be shed big time.
People who wanna bring down Alex jones etc at this time are misguided or have a hidden agenda in my opinion.
People are coming on this forum trying to put across their "mainstream media views". Surely they should go onto the Daily Mail website to speak to people of similar views.
When I first joined this forum, I asked a question and maybe it appeared that I was against David Icke and I got slaughtered by the paranoid ones on here, you know who you are :D I didnt like it at all but I understood why they slaughtered me. This is a war of information.
Yeah I basically agree with this.. I maybe wouldnt say misguided, but certainly neutralising themselves as a positive force by focusing on "problems" that may or may not exist: theres plenty of problems that do exist to focus on and campaign about awareness spreading wise
steevo
13-09-2007, 11:47 AM
Yeah I basically agree with this.. I maybe wouldnt say misguided, but certainly neutralising themselves as a positive force by focusing on "problems" that may or may not exist: theres plenty of problems that do exist to focus on and campaign about awareness spreading wise
Yeah that's a better way of putting it, "misguided" was not a good word to use. Thanks for that JW
vienna
13-09-2007, 12:30 PM
I'd be sad if Jones turned out to be a co-agitator but not unexpected considering the deviousness of what we're dealing with here, I followed him quite a bit back in 2003 but Greg Symanski seems to think so along with other personalities in the alternative news sector
he has alot of audio of his radio show interviews at his artic beacon website
Greg forund once he investigated the real power behind the New World Order he was getting thrown off the networks Jones was on and banned on others -
once you listen to him and Phelps you can be in no doubt about which power is behind the NWO - the black pope and Jesuits who control the P2 lodge
MP3: August 30, 2007 - Hour 1 and 2) Greg continues his discussion about Skull and Bones as well as other Jesuit and NWO topics, including the money laundering cartel posing as the Fed Reserve.
http://arcticbeacon.com/audio/2007/2007-LRN/08-2007-LRN/0830-2007-LRN-Hr1-Hr2.mp3
Leo Zagami former P2 Masonic Lodge Member. Leo's website: Illuminati Confessions
http://arcticbeacon.com/images/LeoZagami.jpg
http://arcticbeacon.com/audio/2007/2007-LRN/07-2007-LRN/0726-2007-LRN-Hr1-Hr2.mp3
Tuesday, July 31, 2007:
(MP3: Hr1 & Hr2 ) Guest - Alan Watt Right click -> Save As
Greg is joined by Alan Watt, born in the U.K., Alan spent years researching the forces behind the terrific changes occurring in the world economically, sociologically, and geologically. Alan realized Europe would be united over 20 years before it occurred and for the last few years, has been following the same pattern of integration in the Americas. He has researched the powerful Foundations and the higher Freemasonic associations which are bringing this about. Alan is an expert on ancient religions, cultures, and peoples, understanding how the New Age Movement was created to help bring in The New Age, the new system along with world government. On Alan's website you can download previous radio talks and view his books for purchase at: www.CuttingThroughTheMatrix.com
http://arcticbeacon.com/audio/2007/2007-LRN/07-2007-LRN/0731-2007-LRN-Hr1-Hr2.mp3
vienna
13-09-2007, 12:34 PM
forgot to mention above...Eric Jon Phelps was thrown off Dr Deagle for suggesting Jones was a Jesuit co agitator
synergy777
13-09-2007, 12:54 PM
don't worry, let scalp the falling markets, and will have enough to start something for all of us, lol trust me. forum/website etc and i have some good connects/links.